10 13 25 The Dawn of a New Middle East!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show. Jonathan Rush, this.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Is not only the end of a war. This is
the end of the age of terror and death and
the beginning of the age of faith and hope.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
And of God.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Kelly Nash, this is the historic dawn of a new
Middle East.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Jonathan and Kelly show Man.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
We got more dawning of new ages under Donald Trump's administration.
This is the dawn of the Golden Age in America
and the dawn of a new Middle East. Has anyone
ever seen anything like Nobody ever seen anything like it?

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Nobody.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
That is something that Trump and Obama have in common,
no matter what they have done, no one has ever
seen anything like what we're doing.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
A great point.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
Obama was the same way. That's right, Nobody ever see
anything like it. So we're watching history unfold today and
it's so stark. The coverage from CNN and MSNBS even
they have to recognize the gravity of this moment.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Everybody's recognizing it. I mean, you've got former Biden administration
officials talking about you got to credit Donald Trump, and
you got to credit the administration. Pete Hegseth and Marco
Rubio and JD. Vance and all of the team, everybody,
Steve Whitcoff obviously, sure, they've all done an incredible thing.
And I think the thing that sticks out the most

(01:27):
is that Trump used people, you know, like his son
in law and Whitcoff, who have never really done this
type of work before. He didn't use lifelong bureaucrats. He
didn't use people who were known to do this as
a profession.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
Now, it was amazing when Jared was able to bring
about the and he gets a lot of credit for
the Abraham Accords accords, you know, and then for him
to be a great selection obviously to get him involved
again because he knows the players.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
And he read a book he did that was a
headline from somebody CNN or somebody like that. Jared Kushner
thinks he can solve the Israel Middle East problem because
he's read a lot of books.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
And Donald Trump again playing out masterfully his ability to
negotiate with foreign affairs. And he even told you during
the campaign for his first term he learned a lot.
He learned a lot by watching the Sunday shows. Yeah,
he learned all his foreign affairs experience knowledge by watching
the Sunday shows.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Didn't really need much more. It's kind of like you said,
I learned everything I needed and what.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Was it the sixth grade? Sixth grade?

Speaker 2 (02:34):
And I'll get you through life if you can figure
out how to get through sixth grade.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
Life lessons there and perfect lessons here from sixth grade.
I think I heard Dana Perino as somebody make a reference.
I've forgotten who it was. Maybe it was Brian made
a reference to dealing with school your bullies. This goes
back again to the sixth grade. You don't know how
to deal with bullies.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
But you know the idea that Trump used people who
don't do this for a living to solve a problem,
a massive problem that has been a problem pretty much
my entire life.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
Oh absolutely it has been.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
And again I say solve it. I don't know that
it's solved.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
I only guess you're going to buy about a decade.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Okay, that'd be better than we've had ever before.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
The only thing that would keep it from keep it
from being about a decade is that if we're and
I got to feel in that the other neighboring countries,
particularly the Saudis, are going to come in and paint
a picture for the Hamas rulers. Look, guys, it's really
a good life if you welcome yourself to twenty twenty

(03:38):
five and put down your rocks and your sticks, when
you don't depend on China or Russia to give you
any type of armament. Look, Donald Trump was to come
in here and build one. Everybody we want to build one.
We all want to build a resort right here on
the Mediterranean. Look, we're going to have five star hotels.
You can be driving Mercedes. It's to be a good life.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
I don't think that the Hamas leaders would take to
that message. I don't think that they want a comfortable life.
I think that they believe they're living a principled life
and that they value that among all other things. Unfortunately
for them, the rest of their people don't want to
live a miserable life. They don't want to live. They
want money and luxury and comfort.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
They would line up to get the crombs off the table.
Of the billionaires and millionaires flying in to enjoy a
weekend at a resort of the Mediterranean. You get a
pretty good gig out of that, and the tips are
pretty damn good.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah, But if that's not your thing, if your thing
is I have devoted my life to Allah, and according
to my understanding of Allah, I must kill all infidels.
I must certainly kill all Jews, and the fact that
they continue to insist on having a country on our
property Jerusalem is my property, not theirs. I am willing

(05:01):
to die for that. Very few people are willing to
die for a cause. The people who are in Hamas
are more than happy to die for their cause. So
you're not going to negotiate that with them. I'm not
really sure how they got them to the table to
release all the hostages, because that's really all they had
left at this point. If Israel was to blow Hamas
off the map, they could literally do to Hamas what

(05:21):
Hamas has been threatening to do to them forever. There's
nothing to stop right now other than they don't want
to get on our bad side. Israel would be on
our bad side, and they'd also be on everybody in
the Middle East bad side, not that they haven't already been,
but nobody would stop it. Nobody would protect Israel. So
that's the only thing I guess that's stopping them from
taking their revenge. But you're not going to negotiate with

(05:43):
hamas No.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
And you know, for years I've always given them credit
them and we can say what you want, but they're dedicated.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
I mean that, we get it.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
It's a theology that's hell been determined on wiping off
even the big Saittan. If they can ever get enough momentum.
They certainly want to kill the little Satan. So if
you could, you got to give them props for their commitment.
They stand on their principle, I got it. They're willing
to walk into a crab, pull the string on a
self detonation suicide vest. You're pretty much standing on your principles.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
That's all you got, That's all you got. And they
absolutely they would look at Western culture and look, I'd
have to kind of agree with them on a lot
of it in the sense that it's a corrupting force.
This idea of comfort and luxury and all of that
that so many of us aspire to really does corrupt

(06:38):
your morals for a lot of folks. A lot of
people are willing to take shortcuts in order to get it.
They're willing to sacrifice their religion, They're willing to sacrifice
whatever it takes to get there, and they don't want
that for them or their children.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
I get it, and Kelly paints a plain picture. I mean,
even with the ones that have transported themselves here to
Dearborn or where New York where the mayor's running for office,
I mean, they are grounded, They're rooted, they are standing
strong in their theology, and they don't seem to be
bent thus far by the availability of pizza on every

(07:15):
street corner and prostitutes in the street. Certainly, they could
even celebrate boy Love Thursday here just like they do there.
So I get it. They're not bending even when they've
been fully immersed in the Western civilization. Now, I'm sure
some of them are, but for the most part, they're

(07:35):
still willing to go out and create mass casualties in
the name of Allah.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
But to your bigger point, which I think you're brilliantly
bringing forth, is the idea that Donald Trump is able
to paint a picture for the masses that your life
right now is not so good. And in any culture,
most people aren't sold out for their religion. Any culture,
it doesn't matter if you're talking. Christians go to most churches.

(08:02):
Most churches are not sold out for Christianity. Most mosques
aren't sold out for Muslim most whatever it is that
you're talking about, they're not the majority of.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Them or not.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
So if you want a nice, comfortable life with clean
drinking water and organic foods, and if you want to
make it even nicer, you want to have a nice
car and a nice home, all of that is within
your lifetime grasp. Your children will be able to improve
upon that, and your grandchildren will improve upon that. If

(08:33):
you would like that. That is something that the West
can offer you. And then you can hang on to
your values, You can hang on to your Muslim rights,
you can hang on to whatever it is that you want.
Just make life more comfortable for you and your kids.
You get more education, you get all of it if
you just sign a peace deal. And so these people,
a lot of them, the Palestinians, have turned against Tomas.

(08:55):
We heard about a family today. I didn't even know
about these little clans of families that are build armies
of you know, two three hundred people. And yesterday I
guess it was they opened fire on Hamas. They killed
eight Hamas members and nineteen of them died. So they
are fighting for the end of Hamas. They don't want

(09:16):
Hamas there.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
Now, it's like this, like the Gaza version of the
hat Fields where the McCoys they're going to fight to
the death. So we'll continue to watch out to seek.
Now is going to make a stop in Egypt? I
guess next?

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Is he only a four?

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Oh he's there.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Yeah, he's in Egypt. He's on a tour.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
He's already in the limo. This is five forty five
live in Egypt, So what's that ten forty five here
in the US. I don't know that this guy has
slept in like three days. I don't believe he has.
I don't know how he doesn't think.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
The man needs leap because he's an amazing individual.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
And then he got his doctor report on Friday, his
check up. According to his doctor, yes, he does take
the COVID vaccine and gets his the annual boosters. He
also gets the flu shot. And then on top of it,
though he said, is his chronological age is fourteen years younger.
I think it was than he actually is. So he's

(10:11):
actually seventy nine, but he's got the mind and body
of a sixty five year old. He says, I don't
know how he does that.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
I don't know. He's the Geno Drizer Bunny.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
And you know, maybe I should listen to Trump because
I remember reading an interview with him years ago, like
in the eighties, and he was talking about somebody asked,
do you go to the gym or do you go
running or jogging and those types of things which were
popular in the eighties, and he said no, because I
believe you're born with a limited amount of energy and
I'm not gonna waste it at the gyman.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
You think about it, I mean, it's just like getting
a set of brakes in your car. You're only going
to hit that brake pad so many times before you
got to get new pads. You're gonna wear those those
kneecaps out.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
To try to find a picture Donald Trump lifting weights,
it ain't out there.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Oh and we know he never drank it, never smoked.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
Now, his diet probably not one that most would indoors.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
I don't know what it's like these days. Is he
putting the weight back on because he didn't lose it.
He did lose By the way, speaking of weight loss, JB.
Pritzker is losing a rapid amount of weight.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
Now.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
I saw some of his Now he's as ignorant as ever.
But he is definitely because you cannot run for president
as a fat man what's his name? Tried to do
it from New Jersey. He got the belly surgery and
all of that, and he couldn't keep it off, did it.
But Pritzker, he must be on the what do they
call him, the GP.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
GP one, GOP one.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
GOP one called the GOP. He's on the GOP one.
He's got to be because he is losing a rapid
amount of weight quickly. But he's This guy's full conspiracy theory.
Did you hear him talking this weekend? He was gave
a press conference talking about what he now knows is
that Donald Trump is putting the National Guard in these

(12:05):
cities specifically, and he used the phrase which I couldn'tven
believe he would use this. He says, so when the
elections come, Donald Trump will have these military people and
or people dressed up in military costumes costumes working the polls,
and they'll claim that they're there to ensure your voting rights,

(12:27):
when in fact they're there to scare off black and
brown people. That is the goal. That's we now know that. Yeah,
that are you kidding me? You are the you're the
governor of a state, and you're throwing out something that
sounds crazier than who's the craziest conspiracy theorist. I don't
even what's his name, the bald headed guy who said
that they were actors. You're like worse than Alex Jones.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
Yes, well he's putting he said together. And by the way,
if you want to come after his people, you got
to go through him. I don't think our military can
make it through him.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Well, the new him, he's probably Donald like two sixties. Yeah,
he's losing some weight because you can't run for president
as a fat man. Christy tried it. It doesn't work.
The last fat guy we had was like Ruttherford Hayes
or somebodybody like that. Before we had like real pictures
in the newspaper, right, didn't.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
We don't.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
We don't like fat people. We do not look. We
are very weightist in this country. If you're fat, we
don't believe you're in control of your faculties.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
Now, we got a couple of things going on here
in the state of South Carolina. Anything else on the
national news other than the Sunday shows where they're talking
about Donald Trump cares more about the people than Gaza
than he does in the US because we're not going
to be opening up the government because Donald Trump won't
come to the table to negotiate with fine, upstanding persons
like Hakeem and Swallwell, yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
I mean that's that's their argument, is that and and
then I don't know how they continue to make this
argument that Donald Trump doesn't need any republic excuse me,
any Democrat votes, that he has the power as the
as the commander in chief who owns the both sides
of Congress, he could open it today. They choosing to
not to, which seems like I don't understand that. I

(14:06):
thought he needed sixty votes in the Senate, but he
changed the rules.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
I don't know if Hakeim was on any other shows.
I happened to watch him first on the Fox Sunday Show,
and after that interview, I'm like, okay, I'm not listening.
I'm going to turn the volume down now every time
I hear this guy, because he only raises my blood
pressure with his ability and his insistence on absolutely extracting
the tiniest part of any conversation to lie to the

(14:31):
American people. I had to walk through that thing yesterday
with Sally because she well, he said, that's okay, stop it,
stop right there. Let me explain what he's doing. He
extrapulates little bits and pieces out of anything to give
it credibility so he can misrepresent and lie to the
American people the way that he does.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
I will say that whoever is the Republican messaging machine,
and I don't know who that is, but whoever they
are needs to get to cash be and needs to
give him some information, messaging information, and cash Betel and
the messaging people need to spread it to everybody, because

(15:10):
yesterday the Sunday morning shows were hammering everybody. And the
worst example of it, I thought was George Stepanopolis with
jd Vance when they he went back three or four
times to the same well, did Tom Holman receive fifty
thousand dollars in a fast food bag and accept it

(15:33):
as the FBI is claiming that he did? And jd
Vance really didn't have an answer. He kept, you know,
he danced around it. He said, I don't know about
the tape that you're talking about. I've read media reports.
You're implying he's done something illegal, but absolutely nothing illegal
has done. I'm asking you. Did he accept the fifty
thousand dollars in a bag? That's all I want to know.

(15:53):
Did he receive fifty thousand dollars in a bag? Now,
from my understanding of it, and this is a little
bit of a deep dive, not much the way it
appears to me, but I don't know it to be true.
But the way I read it is that Tom Holman
was at that point in his career last year, was
not working in any administration. He was farming himself out

(16:17):
as an advisor to companies who wanted to gain government contracts.
And you could pay Tom Holman and he would tell
you who the movers and shakers were, and he could,
you know, arrange meetings with certain people in either administration,
whether the Biden administration or the future Trump administration, so
on and so forth. So you're paying for that opportunity

(16:39):
to have Tom Holman help you gain government contracts. That
is illegal. That is not illegal. I know it might
make you feel uncomfortable, but that's what a lot of
former senators do. So on as all they can navigate
the bureaucracy and get you to the actual movers and shakers.
That's what it sounded to me like Tom Holman was doing.
It sounded as if the Biden administration's justice departments, particularly

(17:02):
the FBI, was targeting tom Holman because they recognize him
to be a legitimate risk to all of the work
they've done if he was to get back into power
they've brought in. I think about this, Jonathan. Some estimates
are twenty million people were brought into this country. That
is four times larger than the entire state of South Carolina.

(17:24):
Illegal immigrants brought in under four years. That is an
unfathomable amount of people that basically from here from where
we're sitting in Columbia, South Carolina to Miami. If every
person in Georgia, South Carolina and Florida was an illegal immigrant,
that's what they brought in. And how the hell does
that not disrupt the country. It's chaos. It's pure chaos.

(17:48):
So Tom Holman's trying to get rid of him, but
that allegation that he took a fifty thousand dollars bribe
is not going to go away until cash Bettel explains
why he dismissed the charges.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
Yeah, it has done. The conversation and again, I think
it was Saturday with someone and I'm like, this is
why the Titanic was such a great example and why
they had changed the rules and the laws internationally that
you have to have enough light boats to be able
to save everybody if the ship goes down. If you're
on a cruise ship today, you have to have enough

(18:19):
lfeboats for everybody to get in guest.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
And staff, a crew and whatever.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
Now, the problem with the as you mentioned all these
people coming in is that not all of them, but
a lot of them. In particular, the worst scenarios is
when you get a sixty eight year old in and
you automatically sign her up for all the program how'd
they get signed up? Look, we got mngos stretched out
at one point all across the border. The Lutherans were there,

(18:46):
the Catholics were there. I mean the churches in particular
had all these people and they would take them to
an office where they would get them signed up for
all the government programs. We know this to be true
because in Spartanburg, South Carolina, it became clear evident popped
out like a like a nasty pimple on your forehead,
because they also signed up an illegal to register to vote.

(19:10):
We know that happened in Spartanburg, South Carolina. By the way,
we've ever seen the finalization of the sled investigation on
that Ralph Norman was the winner. Brought it to the table,
well at least to the extent where it gained news coverage.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
But we know that to be true.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
So when you start signing up all these people, let's
say they're twenty five percent of them or sixty eight
and older, they're not going to work, so they're not
going to contribute. You just put them on Medicaid. You
also put them on government housing. Now you got them
signed up in the availability of each state for all
type of subsidies for their electric or whatever their food.
They're wicked, they snap. You look at all the programs

(19:48):
we have people signed up for now, for sixty five
year old persons who are outraged that we're not you know,
you're talking about the Republicans are taking away your medicare. No,
they're not trying to save it because you just pumped
then a bunch of people who qualify for programs, and
those programs are damned expensive. Suddenly you're going to find
yourself with your grandma and not being able to get

(20:08):
everything you needed. You've already written off the fact you're
going to be able to get yours because Medicare was
going to go barey up in twenty thirty five.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
By the way, Sled said that there was no evidence
of illegals being registered to vote.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
Cottenberg, well, I remember the charges being made, but I
don't remember ever reading the finalization of the SLED report.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
The guy who actually brought the charge was Adam Morgan local,
that's right, Caucus member, and he says he's glad no
evidence with fraud has been found, but you still haven't
addressed all of my concerns. How do we fix the
issue of the state agencies sending these forms to non citizens?
That's what he wanted to know. He was asking two things.
One is why why are they being sent in? Two?

(20:51):
Are there actual people voting?

Speaker 3 (20:53):
Now?

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Yep, because you sent them out to illegals, and so
Sled says, we don't find any illegals. But the second part,
the first part of that question, has still never been answered.
Why were state agencies sending them to known illegals?

Speaker 3 (21:06):
Yes, now, I don't know if this is true. I
heard about it over the weekend. I think it was
on Fox news early Saturday morning. And I don't even
know which state issued it. I think it was California. Okay,
but somebody, some state issued a CDL driver's license. Oh yes,
commercial driver's license, no name with the real ID, and

(21:28):
in the identification for the person's name it said no
name given. Isn't that unbelievable they got the real ID.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
Was that Pennsylvania that did it?

Speaker 1 (21:37):
I could have been Pennsylvania.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
I'm thinking it was Pennsylvania the real ID.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
My god, Sally Steele has yet to collect all the
information needed for her.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
To get a real ID.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
Could that dude fly with no name given?

Speaker 3 (21:49):
It's got the identification, he's got the little gold star.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
That's unbelievable that they would do that.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
This is your government working crazy. A problem, absolutely