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October 17, 2025 • 29 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Shows.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
This is the first woman elected attorney general the state
of California. I was the United States Senator, a second
black woman elected in the history of the United States Senate.
And I was the first woman Vice President.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
Of the United States. Kelly.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Some people have actually said I was the most qualified
candidate ever to run for president.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Kelly Show WOC. That's something she picked up from Trump.
Some people say, I don't know that.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
We'll say I mean, we both had the same reaction
when we first heard it was did Hillary Clinton say that?
Because that's what she that was her claim to fame. Well,
I think that's why she said it. She said it
specifically to hack off the Clintons. They're trying the new
Democrat parties desperately trying to put the Clintons bob bobbing
in the wake with when Joe Biden back there just

(00:53):
bobbing in the wake. We're pushing forward with the new
Democrat Party. What is the new Democrat because let me
ask you, this is Tim Walls part of the New
Democrat Party.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
He is, but not a player.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Is Kamala.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
Oh, Kamala wants to be the player. That's why right now,
behind the scenes, I'm sure she's kissing ass on AOC
and Bernie Sanders.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Now AOC has declared she is not going to primary
Chuck Schumer.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
Yeah, bo Bernie jumped in there to try to save
that conversation so that she wouldn't have to overstate it.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
So who are So is Chuck Schumer the new Democrat Party?

Speaker 3 (01:29):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Totally not.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
No, he's not even gonna be left in the wake.
He's gonna be dropped off the boat with concrete boots.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
So I mean Bernie still in Oh, totally.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
He's the captain of the ship.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Captain it was he like eighty three.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yeah, he's not going to run for president, but he's
the captain of the ship.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
So is his first mate AOC?

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Totally yes?

Speaker 1 (01:50):
And then how does like to leave? And you know
that the rest of the squad, how do they line up?

Speaker 3 (01:56):
They're all hard where they fit in so far as
their titles on the good ship lock.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
I haven't seen Presley in a while. Is she's still
making her round? That's a great point. Maybe she's not well.
Pray for Presley, but it'll be interesting to see how
the Democrats shape up. This is their biggest weekend, well
since June they got the big No King's Rally. I'm
sure you'll be there this weekend. Right, Oh, I'm definitely
going to a No King's rally. Now, something I didn't

(02:21):
realize and I learned my rights. You can get a
list of all your rights and make sure that you
are not trampled on by Columbia Police Department or the
Richland County Sheriff's Department, or if you're going to go
to the State House, the damn state Police. Make sure
you know your rights and you explain it to them.
Now they're saying that there's going to be twenty two

(02:41):
to twenty five hundred events coast to coast.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Now, what I didn't realize is that now this is interesting.
I'm surprised that they may have gotten this wrong because
there would have been lawsuits launched because damn George Soros
has got some attorneys. If I go down there with
a video camera, I can video or photograph anything I
will as long as I'm standing on public property. Okay private,
but they're according to the state newspaper, that audio what

(03:09):
I would have to disclaim to Kelly Nash if you
were standing there with your No King's T shirt on
holding some stupid sign. I would have to say I'm
recording this and get your consent before I could actually
use that audio.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
I don't believe it.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
I don't believe that's right. Who said that? The state newspaper.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
The State newspaper says that if I'm making it so
like when I'm at a Gamecock football game and I
have to get every person in the audience's approval in
order I post it on Facebook.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
Can you go read it again? You would have thought
that lawsuit would have already popped up.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
By the way. I'm looking at the new and I
know you're all trying to get in on this. So
the No Kings dot org is the official website if
you're looking now. Well, of course we're going to have
one in Columbia, no question right. That's downtown Columbia. But
the one I want to go to is the Walter
Burrow one. They're gonna have one in Walterboro. How many
people are gonna show for the Walterborough one? That'd be amazing.

(04:07):
And then of course your friend's up in Newberry. We
got plenty of libs in Newbery these days, so they're
gonna have a big one. I'm sure Florence. I'm not
really that excited about Florence, Spartanburg, Greenville, Seneca, Seneca's got
a No King's Rally happening. Who's showing up at the
Seneca one? Don't you know? Clemson's playing football at the

(04:28):
same time. I mean, come on, brother, what are you
thinking about? And by the way, in Charlotte they have one,
of course, downtown, but around Charlotte within about fifteen miles.
I mean rock Hill's the Furthest. How far is rock
Hill to Charlotte, maybe twenty miles? Fifteen twenty miles there is,
that's the Furthest one. There's nine No King rallies around Charlotte.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
Now here's the two paragraphs out of the state newspaper.
I'm sorry, this is the two paragraphs from George Stois
organization printed by the state newspaper. If you're videotaping, it's
worth noting that there's a difference between a visual photographic record,
which is fully protected according to the ACOU, and the
audio portion of that video tape. South Carolina is a
one party consent state, meaning audio recording is legal so

(05:16):
long as one party consents. Yeah, which can be yourself.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Okay, so in South Carolina, you're cool. The one party
must be an active participant in the conversation.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Yeah. So I can stand there and film you and
you're saying America sucks or whatever. Yeah, and I can
yell back no it doesn't. Yeah, but you have to
yell back. Yeah. Once I yell back, Now, I've consented
now and yeah, now I'm posting it.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
The one limitation capturing photos and videos is on private property,
where the owner may set certain rules. Okay, so if
you're going to do that, you have to become one
party of the audio to go with the video.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Yeah, or you could just run music. If you don't want.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
To have the audience, you can just take out all.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
You just want to make fun of people with, you know,
purple hair and nose rings, you can film them and
then you can mock them.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
In Charleston or in certain areas of Charleston, I believe
that North Charleston. Maybe it was Somerville, maybe it was
Mount Pleasant, I can't remember. But in order to get
an application to be to hold a protest, you have
to file naturally with city hall. But what there's a
limitation in one of the areas, I can't remember which
one is a limitation if you have twenty five or
more participants. So in that area, they decided that they're

(06:33):
just going to have pop up protests and split themselves up,
so they'll be twenty four or less in each pop
up protest street corner. I'm assuming. But remember none of this,
None of this is organized by Antifa or George Soros.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
But you're telling me. What I'm hearing right now is
that you know, if I don't live in Charleston, I'm
not planning on going to Charleston. But if I was
just had the day off and I wanted to screw
with them, I could take like ten of my friends.
Whenever I see like eighteen of them show up, then
we just quote unquote joined the protest and then call
the cops on ourselves.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
Ah, that would be if you did that. Please. I
hope I read about that happening. But they're not part
of us. Oh yeah, shut up.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
No, no, no, I'm wearing the vagina hat. I'm wearing
my upside down crown.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
I got the vagina hat. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
By the way, That's what I learned this morning was
that the largest ever single day political protest in American history,
they believe was the June No King's Protest, which now
they estimated six million, which broke the previous record of
five point six million in one day, which was the
and I'm reading this word for word from the paper,
the twenty seventeen Women's March to rally against Trump's misogynistic rhetoric.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
Oh, that was a snappy button.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
To wear Trump's what is it again, the Women's March
to rally against Trump's misogynistic red. That is a fantastic name.
And that got five point six million people. And then
that is where we launched the vagina hats. And by
the way, if you just look that up, vagina hats,

(08:12):
there was a heartfelt like an NBC News story about
the family. There was a women. There's like ten women
who created those hats. They hand made those, and they
said that this is the way we can identify one another,
as we know, if you have one of these hats,
then you too stand against Trump and his tyrannical ways.

(08:34):
Now at that point, I don't even think Trump was
in office yet. I think it was if I remember right, Yeah,
the twenty seventeen Women's March to rally against Trump's misogynistic
rhetoric was on the day of his inauguration, so he
had not actually implemented anything yet, So you were able
to make that assessment of his presidency before he started.

(08:54):
Same as the Nobel Peace Prize. People gave Obama the
Peace Prize before he actually started doing anything either.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
Now, unless I'm saving a particular item to throw onto
the floor at a w NBA game, should I throw
that at the vagina hat? If I get it, is
it like or you make two points? It's like a
carnival game. If it goes and then I won a prize.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Well, and if you do, then they give you the
morning after pill for your hat.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
What ever goes in our mouth.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Yeah, yeah, we just got to make sure out of
an abundance of caution, we're gonna have an abortion here
on your hat.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
Great, Oh my gosh. We don't usually put up a
podcast on Friday, and I know we're going to get
into all of this, but we had to give your
admonishments and your warnings and make sure, you know, go
to the state newspaper if you're a protester, and make
sure you don't get arrested. You don't want to step
outside of the bounds of the law. And I know
these are all law abuying citizens. I've seen that on
the streets. You know, Chicago probably got most law Abiding

(09:52):
Citizen award.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Gavin Newsom yesterday was trying to again all the Democrat
lawmakers were trying to get people riled up for this weekend. Sure,
and in his plea he was making the point that
the report, how did he say it again? He was like,
you know, in the old days, there weren't any laws.
I was like, what is he talking about. He said,

(10:15):
in the old days other countries the laws were there
were no laws. There was just the king's law. That's
actually a law, though that is the law. Now you're
deciphering who makes the laws, and you don't like the
idea that a king made a law, but it was
still a law. Every civil society has had laws always,
never not had them. Now, apparently, Gavin, you're not going

(10:38):
to like the polling because when they show the polling,
they like the laws that Republicans make better than the
laws that Democrats make. So if this is your whole
no king's rally is we don't like the lawmaker's rally.
Well then you're really up the creek without a paddle.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
Pal Okay, all right, well there'll be a lot of
coverage about that, but I'll be watching on sports channels
on Saturday.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
It's a big football weekend. I got game Cocks at
twelve forty five. I think Clemson's at three thirty.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
If I remember right, it's Georgia game.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Georgia ole Miss is going to be massive. Yeah, I
mean again, just think about the numbers again, the biggest
political protest in history, six million people coast to coast.
According to the numbers, that turns out to be one
point eight percent of the population. So one point and
that's all people. I mean, so that's one point eight

(11:30):
percent of the population. We're including babies in there, so
we're talking basically of voters. You're talking about less than
one percent of the voters are going to show out tomorrow.
And again, it might look impressive because if you get
a million people gathered somewhere, you're like, wow, that sounds
like a lot.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
This is this is why, like in the protest article
about Charleston, this is why you show up is to
gain attention for your cause. So they're trying to win
over the ninety eight point five percent of the other
persons who weren't.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Let's see if we can I don't think we can
do this. This is this goal MIP. This bar is
a little too high, but I'm going to set it high.
Donald Trump said, dream big. I'm dreaming big. Could the
worst game of the week in the SEC? South Carolina
versus Oklahoma? Could we get more than six million viewers?
Could we beat the No Kings protest with the worst

(12:22):
game in the SEC? We're not talking about Ole, Miss Georgia.
We're talking about South Carolina, Oklahoma. Could we beat the
No Kings protest? Just with that? On the flipping SEC network.
We're not even We're not even near basic cable. We're
not forget being on primetime network. We're not on basic cable. OK.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
All right, we'll use that as a barometer to see
if they're able to grow. All right, that'll be coming
up here now. One of the other reasons we wanted
to do a quick podcast today, and we can't be
on tomorrow because of the best game cut coverage that's
start at ninet thirty, so we will be preempted tomorrow
by football. But we wanted to make sure we got
this home for you. We had an interview earlier in
the week with our Lieutenant Governor, Pamela Evatt.

Speaker 4 (13:06):
Hello, guys, how are you? It always great to be back.
It feels like in thirty days there is a lot
of ground that has happened.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
In thirty minutes, you can get a lot with this
news cycle. It's crazy.

Speaker 4 (13:17):
We have got to probably do this like a couple
of times a month, right, I feel like there's just
too much ground to cover in such a short time.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
Well, I think Christy dob just proved you can make
the world turn upside down with just thirty seconds as
that video rolled out in half of our airports here
in South Carolina.

Speaker 4 (13:33):
Oh my goodness, it was that was that was unbelievable,
wasn't it. I mean, and and then you know, you talk,
you talk about like the hackings that were happening in
in airports around the country.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Too, well, Pennsylvania, and then you had one in what
Vancouver or something like that. It was somewhere in Canada
where the Hamas people had hacked those airport.

Speaker 4 (13:58):
Yeah, you're saying that that was it. You know that
they didn't get into any kind of systems, but that's
still scary. I mean, I can't imagine if I was
in an airport, guys, and all of a sudden that
started streaming, I'd be afraid to get on a plane.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Well, Democrats are saying that they would be afraid if
we had the Christineome video playing, which actually blames Democrats
for TSA employees not getting paid. Do you agree that
that is a violation of the Hatch Act or do
you think that this is not a violation and that
that should have been played in all airports because South
Carolina came down. Basically, Greenville and Charleston are not playing

(14:35):
the Christie home video in Myrtle Beach and Charleston are.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
I think I don't think she's out there campaigning for anybody,
and I think that's the promise of the Hatch Act.
I'm not an attorney, so you take that with a
grain of salt. Do you want me to talk about
your tax return on an account? And I'd be happy
to do that. But I always assumed that the Hatch
Act meant you couldn't raise money for a specific candidate.
You couldn't you couldn't campaign for a specific candate. I

(15:01):
think she's just talking about facts. The Democrats have closed
down the government. They talk a game of being worried
about the people, that they're doing this for the people,
but it's the people that are getting hurt and they
don't want it talked about because the Democrats do a
great job of trying to run a narrative, and when
we out maneuver them and get the message out first,

(15:24):
they just don't know what to do with themselves, guys.
And that's the crux of it.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
Well, their message is is that Republicans control the House,
the Senate, and the executive branch. So you guys are
in control of the government. All you got to do
is open the doors and you say to that specific
narrative which is getting traction, particularly with ABCNBCCBS.

Speaker 4 (15:45):
In the light of course, it is because those are
their mouthpieces, right, They go to those networks to get
their message out. What I would say that is the
American public wake up. We need bigger majorities because we
don't hold this big enough majority to stop them from
playing these silly games. And that's the facts of that.

(16:05):
I mean, what they're asking for is outrageous.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
So then if James Cliburn is right in the Christy
Nome videos a violation to the Hatch Act. Should airports
be allowed to play CNN and their lobbies?

Speaker 4 (16:15):
Well, I mean, I think if you go to some airports,
I see different news on. It's not Fox News, it's
usually MSNBC, it's sometimes I've been in airports across the country.
I see all kinds of new outlets that are playing everywhere.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
I would make an argument that those news outlets are
absolutely campaigning and pushing a narrative foreign election as opposed
to the Christy Nolan video.

Speaker 4 (16:37):
You're absolutely right. They have been pushing false narratives since
President Trump took office. Let's should we talk about Russia? Russia?

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Russia?

Speaker 4 (16:45):
Should we talk about all the collusion that has gone
on between networks and the Biden administration and Democrats and
the messaging that these networks have pushed out on behalf
of them. I mean, what the Democrats US don't like
is the fact that the Republicans have a bigger microphone
right now because they are in control and there I believe,

(17:09):
just scurrying trying to make sure that they don't get
blamed in the midterms. This is completely their fault. This
what what the Republicans are asking to do to open
the government they have done a number of times in
the past. They are just standing there, standing there in
the way of opening up the government because they want

(17:33):
to make sure that they are galvanizing money for their causes,
which they have done forever. And we now have a
president who's saying absolutely not I will play this game
with you, and guys, I don't know about you, but
I would never want to be the one to go
head to head and play chicken with the president because
you ain't gonna win. Trump is Trump is the art

(17:56):
of the deal, and he's not going to budge.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
Talking with Lieutenant Govenor Pamela Evitt, who is running for
governor here in the state of South Carolina. You know,
we've seen the National Guard deployed now into Memphis. They're
blocking it as best they can. In Chicago, they're blocking
it as best they can in Portland. But Memphis works
because it's a Republican governor. Even though it is a

(18:20):
Democrat mayor. He's trumped out by the governor. In South Carolina,
our most dangerous city, according to crime statistics, is Orangeburg,
with a violent crime rate of one hundred and forty
three point two per ten thousand residents, which puts it
in one of the top fifty in the country. Would
you support Donald Trump sending the National Guard into Orangeburg?

Speaker 4 (18:44):
You know, I you know, this is an interesting topic
you bring up, because, first of all, let me back up,
I think we have to keep our people safe, and
whatever it takes to keep American people safe, I think
is a good thing. However, I mean when you look,
when you look at the crime that they were been
dealing with in these other cities, I'm not sure if

(19:05):
I put them on a list, which I haven't done,
as Orangeburg, you know, have risen to the level of
what we saw there, because I think you want to
be and the President has come out and said this,
you want to be very careful about where you deploy
the Guard because the guard's function and I did do

(19:26):
a little research into this about a week ago with
our legal staff and the governor's office, because the Guard
can only protect, like the Guard can't arrest, and the
Guard like was very helpful in DC because they protect
federal buildings, you know, they they allow this protection mechanism

(19:47):
so that like ICE and the FBI and local law
enforcement can actually do the arresting. So you have to
make sure if you're going to deploy a military body.
And people were asking having in a lot of questions
about the governor, like can the governor do that? There
are very specific things that have to be done to

(20:11):
flip that switch. You have to be asked by a mayor,
you have to be asked by local law enforcement. It
has to rise to a certain level because you don't
want to make this appearance that you're bringing out the
military and like superseding local law enforcement. But those things,
those areas have risen to such a level like gosh,

(20:33):
you look at Chicago on any given weekend, they have
fifty sixty people shot on a Saturday night, not to
mention the carjackings and the robberies and the violence that's
happening against federal buildings on top of all their normal
day to day crime. So I think you just have

(20:53):
to be careful when the President has come out and
said that, like you really have to be strategic and
where you're doing this, and you have to pick the
worst of the worst cities.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
One of the things we're reading about again today in
the paper. I say again because we've been reading kind
of about what's going on to the South Carolina Election Commission.
And we had read previously where Howard Napp was released,
and then we read the follow up story where Paige
Silanich I'm not sure if I'm pronouncing her name correctly,
his assistant was also released and for different reasons. And
there seems to be a lot of things going on here.

(21:23):
But now that the rubber meets the road with a
dollar mark, suddenly everybody's paying attention over the General Assembly.
Can you help shed some light on the fact that
at this point we know that Howard Napp is under
investigation for something that hasn't even been released by SLED.
They both supposedly created a toxic work environment, and now
there's a charge that they actually have spent money that

(21:45):
they weren't authorized to spend because they didn't calculate the tax.
What's going on to the election Commission.

Speaker 4 (21:50):
Well, I don't know anymore than what everybody has read, right,
because if something, if there truly is an investigation growing on,
nobody to know that until all the facts are released, right,
and we one thing we don't want to do is
get involved in ongoing things that are happening. An investigation
because you don't ever want to taint anything. But what

(22:13):
I will tell you is what I've said for years,
is we have to make people comfortable that elections are
free and fair. Nobody is putting their finger on the
scale of justice that you know, the best disinfectant right
is light. We have said that the governor and I
whether we're talking about the state budget and if you

(22:35):
want to put something in the budget, it needs to
be very clear for everybody to see right down to
talking about elections. You know, after what happened with mail
and balloting and all that, South Carolina has worked really
hard to try to make sure it was easier to
vote and harder to cheat. But we can't get people
out to vote if people don't feel comfortable that their

(22:57):
vote really matters, or that their vote really count. And
so I want to you know, I want an investigation
to happen. I want to see transparency. I want to
make sure that you know, whatever has happened, bring it out,
let people see, and then make sure that we tell
them how whatever it is, if there's something there and
is never going to happen again here in our states,

(23:20):
that we will now put mechanisms in place to make
sure of that I.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
See on your social media that you recently tweeted. If
you're not listening, you're not learning. South Carolina's farmers are
doing more than growing crops. They grow our economy, preserve
our way of life. And I'll always stand by our
farmers and ensure that they have a seat at the table.
What are you hearing from the farmers as you make
your way around the state. What do they need because

(23:45):
they are such an important part of the economy of
this state.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (23:49):
Yes, them in our timber industry together. They challenge hospitality
every year for the number one revenue generator in our state.
And you know, the resilient. The help they need is
they need somebody who will continue to work with the
Trump administration to make sure that they know the challenges

(24:09):
they're facing. Boots on the ground. You know our farmers.
You know I've done roundtables all around the state and
have really sat down and talked with them. What they
want is to be heard. They want on a federal
level to get commodity prices more fair for them. This
was a banner year for growing corn. The commodities price

(24:30):
for bushel was four dollars a bushel, their break even
costs was five dollars a bushel. But farmers are resilient
and they didn't let their you know, they went out
there and they harvested at all knowing they were going
to make a loss. Tell me what other business will
continue to fight their hardest and work their hardest, and

(24:50):
so farmers just want to make sure that it gets
up to the administration. And you've seen President Trump is
standing up for farmers across the country, making sure that
other countries aren't taking advantage of our farmers. They are resilient.
When Hurricane Helene had and I was at the Yance's
farm in Edgefield, they had lost just acres and acres

(25:15):
of peac countries and they were fifteen years of growth
two weeks before harvest, and you know what they were doing, guys,
they were cleaning up, they were getting ready to replant.
Other business owners, I mean myself included, if I saw

(25:36):
that kind of devastation, I mean have probably be in tears.
But not them. They just keep going, and I think
they want to be. They don't want people's pity. They
just want to make sure they have a fair shake.
And that's what we have to give to them. We
got to help them. We have to make sure they
have the money they need in their communities. We have
to make sure that they have good roads and bridges

(25:56):
to be able to move their crops around. And we
have to make sure that we stay a good friend
to the White House so that our president can continue
to fight for our farmers deal with every day.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
I know we were in a title time. We appreciate
you taking some time here. One of the things you
mentioned a minute ago was transparency having to do with
all state business, including as you mentioned, the South Carolina
Election Commission. One of the things that's coming to a
boiling point. I think the General Assembly, even though it's
doing everything it can to get around the issue without
having to discuss it in the open, let alone change
the mechanisms. What are we going to do about transparency

(26:29):
with the way that we appoint judges and even changing
that methodology so I can take the supposed backdoor deals
out of this having to do with how many legislators
are actually attorneys at practice before judges. The appointment well,
you know.

Speaker 4 (26:41):
The Governor, I've been talking about this for years. We
really do like the federal a way of picking and
appointing judges. I believe, and I've talked a lot about
it over the years, is that the governor should be
able to appoint judges based on a list of criteria. Right,
it should be merit based. We want to make sure

(27:01):
that there are term limits, and we want to make
sure there's a review process. But the governors should appoint
and the General Assembly can confirm, and that way people
cannot look and just even if it's only an appearance.
You know that that is the same thing we just
talked about a minute ago with the Election Commission. There
has always got to make We've always got to make

(27:24):
sure that people believe that justice is fair and even
in you know, across the board, to no matter who
is standing in front of a judge, whoever is the
attorney on their case, it has to be fair and
it has to be delivered fairly. And you know, with
the way President Trump has been persecuted, and it has

(27:46):
been such a topic for years now, people are now
looking at our justice system. And for me, this country
is based on laws and rules and justice and we
can never let that be paint it. And we just
have to do our part here in our state. If people,
if this is giving the appearance of something wrong, then

(28:06):
we need to do our best to change it so
that the people of South Carolina feel good about the
way that our judges are elected.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Talking with Pamela Evatt, who is running for governor here
in South Carolina, I see an NBC News story talking
about how this race has kind of turned into a
battle to try to get Donald Trump's endorsement. Is that
something that you're expecting him to make an announcement that
he would be endorsing any of the candidates because he
does have relationships of some kind with well at least

(28:35):
three of you. Or is this something you expect him
to kind of sit out and just he'll support whoever
wins the nomination.

Speaker 4 (28:42):
You know, I never I've never been one to speak
for anybody. I think it would be an honor to
have his endorsement. I think everybody wants his endorsement. I
do believe. I think the South Carolina is very near
and dear to the President's heart. I believe he will
want to he will want a weigh in. Uh, I

(29:04):
don't know. I don't know when that will be. But
just like just like everybody, I hope I have showed
that I've been really loyal to him, and I want
to bring his America first policies right here to South Carolina.
Two business people trying to get it done.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
Lieutenant Governor Pamela Abbott, thank you so much for your time.
I'm sure we'll be hearing more from you as a
candidate in the gubernatorial race, and it's always great to
talk to you about some current events and challenges. Our
state is currently staring straight down the barrel at with
no reference to any type of violence in that comment,
just to go to southern expression from a farm boy.

Speaker 4 (29:40):
Well, let me tell you the next time we get together.
I have not forgot how much water means to you.
And I actually met with dies and was taking a
glimpse at the thirty year water plan. So next time
we meet we can chat about that a little bit.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
Ex nice.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
Thank you so much, Lieutenant Governor Pamela Abbott,
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