11 13 25 South Carolina Supreme Court says NO to money for Legislators

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Showa Rush.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
That's important.

Speaker 3 (00:06):
We have several Senate primaries, Disciple Kelly Nash.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
And my hope is that people across this country actually
participate in their primary elections in.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Selecting their leaderships and Kelly show.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
You know, yesterday we opened up with Mark Kelly talking
about the supposed Senate leadership and how he felt about
it with Schumer and was Schumer going to continue to
represent them and not only his leadership position but possibly
in the Senate and he didn't want to get involved
with that. It's going to be real interesting to see
now that a lot of the mainstream media obviously we're
cheering on ma'am Donnie, and now you've got AOC pretty

(00:41):
much calling out all Democrats. We've got like, what did
you say, six seats that are going to be primary.
So she's hoping that the American people will get out
and meet that challenge, is basically what she's say. It's
going to be really interesting to see where the typical MSNBC, NBC,
CBS and the like falls in as this division is
going to continue to grow. You're going to support Mark

(01:03):
Kelly and his ilk or are you're going to fall
in line with AOC and Mam Donnie, I thought.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
That Fetterman gave a pretty good answer last night on
Chris Cuomo Show. And he's kind of been sticking with
that theme of I'm not here to represent the far left.
And he said last night, and I praise right that
the America's future is going nowhere near socialism. That's not
the future of the Democrat Party. If that's the future
of the Democrat Party, it will be extinguished.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
The fact that we.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Flirted with socialism is the reason that we lost the
White House. We lost the House, and we lost the Senate.
Americans have soundly rejected socialism. There are parts of America
that are enthralled with that idea, but most Americans recognize
socialism as a legit threat to all of our ways
of life. That's pretty much paraphrasing everything that Fetterman was saying.

(01:53):
And you know, you look at the six who came
across last night. Every one of them except for Jared
Golden of Maine. Jared Golden of Maine has owned, always
been consistent in crossing over and wanting the government to
stay open. Marie Perez of Washington, I've met Henry Culler
of Texas. He's a pretty bipartisan guy. Adam Gray of California,

(02:14):
Don Davis of North Carolina, Tom Suzy of New York.
Each one of those people won their last congressional race
by less than three points. They are in a fight
for their lives. As a matter of fact. If you
look at Don Davis, he won by one point seven
points in North Carolina, has already redistricted him into a
Republican heavy district, so he's he's fighting for his life.

(02:37):
The guy Adam Grave California, if I'm not mistaken, he's
the guy who won his race. Yes, Gray won in
twenty twenty four by one hundred and eighty seven votes.
I mean, these people recognize the left is the threat
to me. To me, when I say to me, I
don't mean to their lifestyles in America, I mean to
their actual political future. You can't get too far left

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in these seats, so they're trying to get back to
the center and maybe even a little bit to the
right of where they would feel comfortably. It's a good
political move, but as far as the future of America goes,
we are dividing ourselves and we're going to see more
and more big cities because the bit I heard this
theory years ago, and I think it's true that if

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you live in a big city, you recognize that you
are dependent upon government much more so than if you
live in a suburb or in the country. In the
big city, everything is dependent upon government, whether it's the transportation, everything, it's.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
All water, streets, yes, every police everything.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
So but if you get out into the suburbs, you
have a little more independence. And obviously if you live
in the country, it's all just you know, eat what
you kill, that sort of thing. But in the city,
so the yeah, so the people in the cities tend
to be far more big government. They want bigger government,
and a lot of them believe wrongly, but they believe

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that they're helping the people in the suburbs and the
people in the rural areas because they're like, we've been
the benefactors of big government, and I know that a
lot of you can't fight for yourselves, and you're poor
and you're hungry, and it's not working, and we want
big government to come in and help you. So we're
gonna vote and try to change our state and make

(04:26):
it blue.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
I understand the mindset.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
You ain't changing the state though, trust me, no South
Cak is rid.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Well you can tell when you it'll be more evident
and more evident and more evident as we hear and
track more of what Ma'm DOMI is going to be doing.
It's going to be interesting to see if this which
way this media is gonna lean they're gonna pick. They're
gonna pick a winner and a loser, because they always
do that. We're gonna see which one they're going to
prop up and which one they're gonna protect against the
oncoming going into the midterms, and are they going to

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continue to fall in love.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
With a See there's a lot of them out there.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
They love that girl and now mine Dommy's got such
a great smile, and you got the king of all
socialists telling you this is the way forward. So we'll
find out how that works out for you.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
I think the media always goes with the energy, and
the energy is usually with the youth, and the youth
vote is usually well. I mean, look go back to
nineteen fifty nine, nineteen sixty. JFK by today's standards is
a trumpster. He's a Republican, but They went with him
over Nixon because he was young, good looking, attractive, energetic,

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all those things. So that's why the media fell in
love with him. They're always looking for that young, hot
trend to get involved with because most of the media,
particularly these days, not as much back then, but the
media today. Most of the people that are quote unquote
journalists are under the age of like thirty five forty.

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They grew up with these people and they feel the
same way that they feel. And socialism, if you believe
in it, is an attractive idea that we can all
be equal.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
I mean, the.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
General concept is there's a lot to eat in America,
and unfortunately a few people got all of it and
the rest of us got nothing. So we're fighting for
the middle class, we're fighting for the poor, and we
just want to get everybody to have a great life
in America. And it's very doable if the poor, if
the rich will just give up some of their money
and help us out here. That's the concept, that's what

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they believe they're fighting for. It's completely wrong. It fails
every time. I mean, you want to take a look
at some socialism, go check out Mao. I was just
reading his book again, I mean that that. I mean
that fool Mao. Mao really understood how to kill people.
You know, he makes Hitler look like a chump. Oh totally,
because what Mao said was, oh, they got there, they got.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
Plenty to eat?

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Do they who are the biggest farmers in that town?
Kill them? He just killed the That's all I gotta do.
And now there's no food and help. Yeah, is it
a problem that he starved one hundred and sixty million
people to death? He didn't have a problem with it.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
So now that we're watching New York City and now
closely following in the footsteps is going to be Seattle
with their new mayor.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
And I did think it.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Was interesting yesterday as I saw a couple of the
a couple of the snippets from Gavin Newsom in Brazil
taking sniper fire at Donald Trump. So he's building his
coalition outside the US. Don't worry, Gavin, the Democrats already
know how to get plenty of international money to flow
in camoufliges, so you don't have to worry about trying

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to fill your coffers with that. And although he is
the man who most recently, when asked, why do you
want to be president, answered, I don't.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
Kamala Harris maybe laugh out loud.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Yesterday she was on the other contender for the Democrats
presidential run at twenty twenty eight. She was only a
podcast where with a food with a chef or something,
and she was sharing her love for pasta. So pasta pasta. Yeah,
that's not Indian orgy, making no good point. I didn't

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think about that. She's sharing her love of pasta. So
Gavin Newsom certainly is going to be one of the
key figures in this. And the guy that I continue
to say is one of the biggest threats is Pete Budajig.
That guy is really really good in front of a
camera and he's really really good with relating his point.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Did you see his little video that he posted from
his kitchen two nights ago. Yeah, I thought that. I
thought he totally butchered that. And I said to myself,
he's actually inarticulate. He's not making the right points. He's
blowing it. You're blowing it, Pete, and you look like crap.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
And he wasn't even on the spot where you had
to answer the question in front of a camera.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
Previously we have seen him answer questions very concisely in
a way that relates to a lot of Americans, and
he does it in a moderate way. But he's one
of the furthest to the left of any of the
candidates they have. I mean, here's a man who's breastfed
a child.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
And I think it's we I mean, it broke last night.
We should mention that Gavin Newsom's now former and he
wants you to know it's my former chief of staff
has been arrested, and she's been arrested for a myriad
of crimes. But she was his chief of staff for

(09:34):
like fifteen years and it ended last year. Now, did
Gavin and the investigation into her had nothing to do
with Trump? That was launched under the Biden administration back
in twenty twenty two against her. I'm guessing that somebody
gave Gavin a heads up in twenty twenty four, like
it's about to get ugly for your girl, and you're
going to want some distance. And that's probably why she left.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
The corruption runs deep for a long time in the
state of California.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
She was doing some really bad things and and you know,
more and more is coming out today about her and
and and she's in bed with or i should say,
in business with other high profile Democrats in California. This
is going to be a well, the media is not
going to make much about it, but the real but
I think that the people in California, if they're if

(10:25):
they're modern, obviously, if they're Republican. And again about forty
two percent of California's Republican, although they have basically no
shot at winning any seats now with this new redistricting
coming out, but those forty two percent, but it's going
to be more importantly are there ten percent of Californians
that are movable? If there's this is the kind of
scandal when when you say, wait a second, she did

(10:48):
as the chief of staff, she was moving funds, taking
funds from COVID patients and they're dying, and she wouldn't
give them the money she kept it. That's the kind
of thing.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
That says, whoa whoa, whoa, whoa whoa.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
You killed people. You killed people so you could buy,
according to the again the Department of Justice, more luxury purses.
You were spending five to ten thousand dollars a purse.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
That's an interesting comparison because she actually did, in fact
by taking that money probably kill people, yes, And it's
not like she just fantasized a boy killing people.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Now that's okay, Yeah, unlike the guy in Virginia.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
Yeah, that's okay. She actually did.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
And on top of that, she used she took your money, yes,
just to move the needle in California.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
It could And I'm just reading some of this stuff
right now. She also found a dormant political campaign. Who's
got those money? This one at two hundred and twenty
five thousand dollars that she stole from it. She conspired
with other business associates to create false backdated contracts of
receiving civil subpoenas in January of twenty twenty four from

(11:54):
the US Attorney's office. The subpoena related to her paycheck
Protection program, the PPP loans, where she created false businesses
and then she stole another million dollars from that. She
paid for private jet travel, luxury hotel stays, home furnishings,
and hundreds of thousands of dollars on designer handbags, and

(12:15):
then also made payments for no show jobs for her
friends and family. So you just got hired as a
contractor for the State of California. We're going to pay
you one hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year to
do that. You don't actually do anything. You just happen
to be my niece.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
You know, we put people in positions where we This
is when we're most vulnerable, is when you have a
person like she is put in a position where she's
superguarding without having to be accountable in the State of California.
Maybe she drug somebody in make sure the accounting measures
or the accountability was camouflaged as well. We'll find out

(12:54):
all of that as it goes further.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
You know.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
I heard somebody say something the other day. I had
not considered this. I thought that is a brilliant defense
of capitalism, he said. And it was one of these
weird videos where he was talking to himself, so he's
playing both the roles of I thought you were a
Christian and I thought that we should feed the poor
and help clothe the needy and blah blah blah. And

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he said, I am, and that's why I choose capitalism.
And they're like, but not everybody gets fed and blah
blah blah. Undercap and his basic overriding theme was every system,
whichever system you come up with, is corruptible because human
beings are corruptible. So what system allows me the best
opportunity to survive once it's corrupted? So capitalism is corrupt.

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There are people doing backroom deals all day, every day
out to screw you, screw people in the community, so
on and so forth. The same is true in socialism,
backdoor deals to screw you. But in socialism you don't
have an opportunity to get out from under it. Capitalism
just because, as Jonathan Rush famously says, you put the

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screws to me, I'll screw right out from India. You
seized my property. I can still go get another property
and start over again. I can rebuild. I have a shot.
In socialism, once you're screwed, there's no screwing out.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
No, you're stuck. Yep, the class system works. Hey.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Here in the state of South Carolina, we have a
big decision day coming down from the Supreme Court. And
remember the increase, the pay increase as it was portrayed
mostly although the legislators would tell you is just to
make sure they have enough money to cover their end
district expenses and the like. That was written in such
a way that it did run a foul of the

(14:44):
State Constitution. And Wes Climber was the one who really
started this challenge, although he wasn't the only person. He
may have been the one to get Dick Carpulia to
come on board. But Wes Climber, because he is in
fact a legislators, was found by the sup in Court
and have no standing. But that didn't affect the outcome
of what's going to have to happen here with the

(15:06):
writing of the law, because there was someone else who
was not in the legislature was who did have standing
in front.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
Of the court.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Well, the basic premise is, if you are voting a
pay raise, you cannot vote yourself a pay raise. The
legislators voted themselves a pay raise. If they wanted to
do it legally, they would have to say, we have
voted a pay raise for the Congress or the session
that starts after us. So the one hundred and twenty
sixth General Assembly voted a pay raise for the one

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hundred and twenty sixth General Assembly. The law says you
can't do that. You have to go through an election
in order to get the pay raise.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
People have to have an opportunity to make sure that
you have already put that to a position where you
actually are going to reaffirm their seat in the House,
and then thus you are endorsing their increase.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
Yeah, I'm not saying I'm getting the I'm saying, whoever
is in the one hundred and twenty seventh General Assembly
will receive a pay raise. If I'm fortunate enough to
be there, then that will be me. Maybe I'm not
running for the one hundred and twenty seventh. But that's
not what they did. They voted themselves a pay raise,
which is against the Constitution. And West Climber called them out,
as did the you know, the whole Freedom Caucus. They

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called it out. But that was a unanimous decision yesterday.
It's and the Supreme Court basically took fourteen seconds to
hear the case and say, did the pay raise go
into an effect before the one hundred and twenty seventh,
then it's illegal. So you're going to have to re
deduct that money, and you're not going to be able
to now you're going to have to rego through the

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process again during the one hundred and twenty seventh and
when this and then say this is for the future.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
You got to go back to square one.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Because people have to know that when you're running for office,
you're voting yourself a pay raise for next year.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
The next year, the state constitution makes it clear they
can't raise their own salary mid term. Instead, their salary
increases that Kelly just described has to be in the
following term. And now, because you did it wrong this time,
it's going to take you next year and a half
minimum to be able to get that in place, because
you have to pass it through a session where you

(17:13):
no longer you will in fact no longer or will
not get an increase in that session, and then went
on to say, and pretty much some pretty sympathetic to
the fact that we're not paying these guys a whole
lot of money. And to travel not only from wherever
you are to Columbia, but also travel in your district
and then to attend events or whatever the things is,

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whatever the events are that you do, it could cost
you money out of pocket. You may end up costing
you more money than you're actually able to get per
diem or otherwise.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
But you know, it's like.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
I always say, all these people spend so much money
to get these low paying jobs.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
Why why do they do that? I don't know. It
defies description. Are they public servants?

Speaker 2 (17:55):
I mean, how much money does a Senate race cost?
Last year, Lindsey? Two years ago, Lindsey Graham and Jamie
Harrison each spent like some like a billion dollars or something.
It was consane what they spent for a job that
pays one hundred and seventy five thousand dollars a year.
Lindsey Graham could legit. I would say ten x his

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paycheck if he just wanted to be a consultant ten
exit started a little over a million a year. Not
a problem, Lindsay, why is he fighting so hard for
one hundred and seventy five thousand dollars job? Now, he
would tell you it's because I love serving the people
of South Carolina would and maybe that's true, but it's
not true of everybody who's in positions of power. And
you know, my wife being on the school board, I

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see people fighting just for that little grasp of power.
You're overseeing a school district and they freaking act like
they won the presidency.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
They're either star for authority or they know that in
order to make the step where they really want to be.
They need to start with a school board because that's
a great stepping star. One of the school board can
get you on a county council or a city council,
I suppose.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
So the authority, though, I'm sure, is a gigantic pool.
That's why we see so many people want to be
the president of HOA.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
For God's sake, Oh my gosh, the biggest tyrants on
earth are the h o A presidents.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
Yeah, those are people who didn't win a school board seat.