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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show. Jonathan Rush, we
have nothing to do with Epstein. The Democrats to all
of his friends were Democrats, Kelly Nash, Larry Summers.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Bill Clinton. They went to his island all the time.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Many of this oral Democrats. Jonathan and Kelly show.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Well, it has been a big morning in DC with
the Epstein victims coming forward along with MTG. She was
hopin mad especially in comments she made directed specifically at
Donald J. Trump about the trader comment she's a trader. Yeah,
that she would like being a trader, but she is
a trade now. She was hopin mad rocon.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
She abandoned the whole MAGA movement. She's intentionally sabotaging Donald
Trump right now.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Well, and we keep being reminded on MSNBC. Excuse me,
MS now.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
That's right, MS thirteen, Now the game.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I keep being reminded on MS now and by the commentators.
I'll leave any of the comments from the persons who
are victims of up stained out of it, just by
the commentators with being that this is not political every
not every person, because a lot of the victims are
speaking from the heart. I get it. That's a painful
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place to be and I'm sorry you had to go
through that. This is absolutely political.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yeah, MS now also known as more socialism. Now, why
have they not addressed the fact that, again, Joe Biden
had these files for four years and they opened an
investigation the Biden Department of Justice, and the Biden Department
of Justice said there's nothing there. And then we had
a bunch of people. Look, I'm not saying that it's
right or wrong, but let's be honest. Dan Bongino built
(01:43):
a career and podcasting. His podcast went ranked from like
two hundred and ninetieth to like top ten, and the
whole thesis of his podcast was they're hiding stuff in
the Epstein files. Well, then Dan Bongino gets in there
and goes, I was wrong. So I don't know who
to believe, except it would appear that if Dan Bongino
(02:09):
says there's nothing in there, and I look like a
moron for saying that, he wouldn't have said that. No,
and now Trump has said, look, it's been a charade,
it's been a political game. It's a hoax that they
keep playing to try to distract from what we're actually
trying to get accomplished. Same thing that they did with
the government shutdown. But if they want to release it,
I've been warning you people, We're going to ruin some
(02:30):
lives over this, people who are innocent people. Mike Johnson's
up there talking about right now, some of the names
in that Epstein file. We know, we know that these
people are actual victims, meaning that they were the ones
that were used in order to get to the sexual
abuse victims, like their parents or their older siblings and
things like that. And America apparently, or at least the
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Democrats have said, don't care, let's ruin their lives. So
we're going to ruin some victims' lives.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
And the other thing that they want to make sure
that you understand is Donald Trump told Pam Bondy in
a truth social post, I believe to look at the
Epstein files, in particular with Bill Clinton. He mentioned Bill
Clinton by name.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Lady Summers is in there as well.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Democrat leaders, like you said in the beginning of that
clip up play for you. It's all the Democrats. But
so if he initiated, or if Pam Bondi initiates an investigation,
then when you go to release the information, Donald Trump's
actually playing a joke on you because he knows you
can't release the information during an active investigation. So he
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can stand on the podium and say release the information
while knowing full well it can't be released if there's
an active investigation going on, which is the narrative that
you'll hear.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
All day today. That's funny because that is a new narrative.
Like even just twelve hours ago, CNN had not created
that BS narrative. Their headline was the prospect of an
embarrassing defeat has convinced Trump to reverse course on Epstein files.
And then the opening line of the story is Donald
Trump is no longer fighting the release of the Epstein files,
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but that doesn't mean that he's happy about it. So
even twelve hours ago, CNN had not concocted this BS
story that by saying I want and again, Donald Trump
is not calling for an investigation into the Epstein files.
He's calling for a specific investigation into Bill Clinton. Yes,
so that does not, according to law, stop us from
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releasing everybody else in the Epstein files. So anybody not
named Bill Clinton, your stuff was he actually helped Bill Clinton?
Bill Clinton, You're the only one who's not going to
get all your stuff put out in the public.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Possibly, But if you believe that this is not political,
and if you believe that Donald Trump now suddenly has
put himself in a position to say one thing while
knowing he can't deliver it, then you have to go
back then and recognize that the way that this draft
was written and passed through the House cannot be passed
because it in itself is written in such a way
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that would prohibit its release. You can't release all that information.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Well, Mike Johnson saying it's the way the Senate wrote it, right,
That's what he was just claiming that they're in their
hurriedness to try to get this out, and he was like,
and we pointed it out to him, and they told
us go jump in the Potomac, which I don't believe
any of the senators told him to jump in the Potomac.
But whatever, we're gonna pass it. We're we're gonna violate
a lot of laws just to satisfy some people here.
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But at the at the end of the day, my
theory is the Democrats have walked into a trap because
the Democrats believed that Donald Trump was the adult. Now
that's the reverse of how they portray him. But Donald
Trump would not hurt Americans. Donald Trump knew there's gonna
be hundreds of people who were gonna end up with
their lives ruined over this, and they were betting on
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him protecting them. And so we can just keep taking
shots at him, taking shots, taking shots, taking shots, And
Donald Trump just said yesterday, cut them loose. Those hundred
families are going to be ruined. Sucks to be you, sorry,
but now the Democrats can shut up.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
The other thing you mentioned yesterday end of the podcast
that the Democrats are clinging to is not the Epstein
list or the Epstein files or who's on the list,
who's in the file. Is that the number of times
that Donald Trump is named in these files and in
the emails and from conversations were orchestrated or originated from
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Epstein himself. And you pointed this out yesterday, and then
someone else pointed it out the other night as well,
that this guy apparently for a while, was fixated on Trump.
So the mere fact that he wanted to be one
of the persons to bring him down is one of
the reasons why he keeps popping up. His name keeps
popping up in all these emails and files and communications
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is because Epstein. Hey, it's not because Donald Trump is
always begging to go down to the island, which is
what the Democrats want you to believe.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
The basic backstory is that in the eighties, Trump knew
Epstein casually, like you probably know a lot of people casually.
You know him enough to say hi, you see him
at a party, you're nice to them, so on and
so forth, you know anything about the guy. Trump got
pissed off at Epstein because Epstein kept stealing some of
the people who worked for him, specifically younger women. We
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don't know if those younger women that were working at
mar A Lago and then ended up working for Epstein,
if they were part of the sex trade. We just
know that Trump didn't like it, and he said you
better stop, and then he didn't stop, and then Trump
banned him from his property. I don't know if it
was in revenge for that or not, but allegedly Trump
got a deal that Epstein wanted. Trump stole the deal
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is how it was phrased, and then Trump ended up
making like four hundred million dollars on that business deal,
which really pissed off Epstein and then Epstein believed, according
to his biographer, that it was Donald Trump. The West
Palm Beach police on him and said, he's got young
girls at the house. You ought to investigate him. And
so it was because of that investigation that Epstein was
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originally arrested. And then you get that bogus deal that
he cut with the district attorney down there at the time.
But that's what put him on the map as a pedophile.
Donald Trump was the hero. Epstein was the villain, and
he never forgave. Donald Trump calls him the worst person
on earth, wants to kill him, blah blah blah. And
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he also was heavily invested in the Virgin Islands. If
you look at Epstein Island, Epstein Island is just off
the coast of Saint Thomas. It's like three miles and
if you actually ever go to Saint John's, you take
a ferry from the east end of Saint Thomas to
Saint John's. You end up at a place called Trunk Bay,
which is one of the most beautiful places on earth
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in my opinion. But you go right by Epstein Island,
you can see the American flag that he flew. I
took that ferry. I saw that flag. That's where Epstein
Island is, that is part of the US Virgin Islands.
The woman that he's dealing with from the US Virgin
Islands is a member of Congress and he's coaching her
on how to get Donald Trump and that twenty nineteen
(09:13):
House hearing he hated Donald Trump. Now nobody's really asking
her why were you dealing with a known pedophile, in
a sex trafficker, First and foremost, why do you have
his phone number? Because he gives a lot of money
to the Virgin Islands. Yes, he helps my people, big time,
big league.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Yeah. And you see the timeline on the text messages,
and then watch that with the video of the hearing.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Yeah, it's totally obvious what's happening. And again I'm shocked
that's the Washington Post did that work. Yes, the Washington
Post did some serious legwork to come up with that.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
And then if you believe still that this is not political,
when Mika This Morning says, we're talking about fourteen, fifteen,
sixteen year old girls, Okay, children, Okay, Now, I'm not
diminishing the fact that children were certainly sexually trafficked and
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abused I'm just talking about Mika's own words right now.
They are physically children, they're psychologically children. Now, remember this
is all non political, Kelly. These are children. It's the
same damn network that told you was okay to mutilate nine,
ten and eleven year olds and use hormones to block
(10:30):
their transgender dreams or nightmares. So don't come preaching to
me about damn children. I mean, you sound as fake
as Nancy Pelosi. We're here for the children.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Yeah, It's tough to have it both ways when you
say that a child is, by your description, sixteen years old,
doesn't know any better and can be easily deceived into
becoming a sex slave. At the same time, nine year
old can make a decision to start taking pure blockers,
or a twelve year old can hack his penis off.
(11:04):
It's hard to imagine that that you're the same person.
You're not intellectually honest.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Of all the victims who stepped forward. Look, I'm not
taking anything away from what they're saying. With it went through.
I get it. I know women that were raped, I
get it. I get it now. The guy who was
speaking for his sister, he went out of his way
to make sure everybody understood this was not political. But
then in his description of his sister's path that led
her to Epstein, he started off with her job at
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mar Lago where she met Julian Maxwell. Plainly, but you
had to bring in Trump in that, in a non
political environment, you had to bring Trump's mar Largo property
in that. While you stand there and tell me this
is not political.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Again, I think that he's inadvertently defending the president because
Trump publicly stated many times before Epstein was convicted again
or not convicted again, but arrested again and died in
the prison. So he said many times that I never
liked him, and I threw him off my property for
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stealing my employees, and that I'm guessing that this girl
was one of his employees that was targeted by Epstein,
And so Trump was trying to make sure that no
more of his employees had that happened to him. And
again two thousand and four, Trump called the cops and said,
go after this guy for targeting girls.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Well, we're going to see more continuation coverage on that,
and then what happens with this vote that's coming up,
and will they be able? Will they will Mike Johnson
be able to have someone listen to the fact that
if you're going to write this law, you might as
well write it in such a way that a it
could be actually implemented. Otherwise you're hiding behind the grandstanding
what you claim that Donald Trump is doing. So if
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you're going to write it this such a way that
you could actually get more information that would be helpful.
If you write it this way, then as soon as
you pass it. According to Mike Johnson, you're going to
have people that were victims who have asked not to
have their information released. I don't know how they would
do it, but they would have standing. Someone will find
them or they will find some way to have standing
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that you automatically file a lawsuit to block the Damn
Bill and to go to the Supreme Court.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
You know, And I'm just gonna now I'm going to
sound callous. You sounded callous earlier. I'm going to sound callous.
There's approximately they just say, they always say, there's just
over one thousand Epstein victims. Make it eleven hundred. Make
it two thousand, I mean double it the two thousand.
That's a lot of people who are sexually abused and
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or victimized by Epstein. However, since they started talking about Epstein,
I'm talking about the Democrats.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
I have not heard.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
I don't think I've heard one word. I google the
ex accounts and stuff of these liberals that are the
leaders and whatnot. The existential threat that's going to kill
us all is global warming. They have refused to bring
that up. That doesn't just affect the two thousand victims.
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That affects all seven billion people on Earth. And we
were supposed to have, as AOC said, we were supposed
to spend all the money on Earth in order to
stop this. That's right, We're not spending a nickel on
it now. And this is how many years later. I mean,
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she was talking about the end of the world in
twelve years, right, that was I think twenty eighteen. So
we're halfway to the end of the world. And you
would think, again, I'm not minimizing two thousand sexual victims
or a thousand or whatever it is that does not
affect the majority of Americans. Epstein will say the threat
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has been neutralized. We will say that most of the
people who were the rich, powerful business people that we
like to imagine were in there, that they're either dead
or neutralized themselves to some extent like Prince Andrew Stephen Hawking.
These people are Stephen Hawking is no longer breathing. So
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I mean, nobody's talking about Bill Gates. Bill Gates' wife
divorced him, Melinda, allegedly, according to the reports back in
twenty twenty one, was because she did not like the
fact that he would not stop spending time at Epstein Island. Now,
is Bill Gates going to go down?
Speaker 3 (15:34):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
I don't see anybody crying about it. I don't see
anybody saying Bill Gates needs to go to prison. I
don't say anybody saying Bill Gates is the one trying
to block this. I don't even hear Greta Thunberg talking
about it.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
And Roe Conna, who was part of the press conference today,
I'm not going to doubt his motivation. If he wants
to stand up for victims and work for victims, I
got it, and you should. And this is not a
criticism of this day, but ro Conne, you're part of
a damn party that watched for four years or longer
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if you want to go back to the Obama administration.
But you certainly watched for four years children being moved
across our southern border, and nobody said a damn word.
But by the time Biden left the White House, you
had more than four hundred and fifty thousand children who
are unaccounted for. You get sexual trafficking going on right
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here in this country, probably by a lot of damn Americans.
You should be arrested, and certainly by the cartel. But
you have did not raise a damn eyebrow for all
those years that you knew it was going on. So
I get it with the sexual trafficking being an awful
smear on humanity. It is, but you facilitated it.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Yeah, I mean, look, this was not a big deal
for Congress, nor should it be a big deal for Congress.
This is there are legit millions of women and unfortunately
young boys as well, that are sexually abused either by
relatives or actually introduced into the sex slave trade annually
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in this country. Now, if you're saying we want to
address that issue as Congress, that's one thing. You're talking
about a small group of individuals who may be rich
and powerful, who may have abused a thousand people. That
is not for Congress. Is that's really not even in
your purview. That's many of these women aren't even American citizens.
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You're just talking about you want to feel good because
you stood up to rich and powerful people. That's what
everybody wants to feel like they're doing. That's fantastic. You
are supposed to be concerned about what's going on with
I guess Russia, Ukraine. That's something you could be concerned
about because that would affect the United States, Israel, our
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closest Middle East ally, and the Palestinians. I see a
new poll here right now, Hamas is gaining in popularity
right now, fifty two percent of Palestinians want Hamas to
lead the Palestinians. They want the known terrorists, that's who
they're That's so what do you do?
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Now?
Speaker 2 (18:18):
How how does that end? Congress? You got an answer
you you you want? Do you want Hamas to be
in charge? Or are you going to step in and
say we're not going to allow the Palestinians to have
their way? You don't get to pick your leaders.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
I'm glad this is not political killing.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
How does it end up in Congress? If it's not political?
Isn't that what the role of Congress is.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
So one of the things that I got actually got
a kick out of today and I probably should not have,
was I need some I need a little political comedy.
Yesterday in the New York Post.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
It was actually this morning, this morning's front page, right
the number one story of the day.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
But it's in there. They're writing about us in South Carolina. No,
not us. We can disassociate well, we can't disassociate ourselves totally.
He was the governor. Here, they're writing about Mark Sanford.
It was three people you'd never put in the same room,
certainly not in the same intimate room.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Yeah, they probably are wishing that they weren't a part
of this. Keith Oberman, Keith Oberman, Robert K Jr.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
And Robert and Mark Sanford.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yes, all three of those men slept with the same woman.
And that woman her name is I believe it's pronounced
Olivia Nuzzy. Olivia. You might remember she became somewhat infamous
last year because she's the one who brought forth the
allegations and some proof that she was involved in a
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sexting relationship with R. F K Junior. Now RFK Jr.
Apparently did not actually physically engage. Sounds like he physically
engaged with himself while texting, and that's.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
What you would be led to believe.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Yes, didn't actually do any swapping of fluids between the two,
unlike Keith Olberman. Keith Olberman apparently this sounds almost like
a pay for play situation. He bought her an apartment
to live in and then paid for her Fordham University degree.
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So that's hundreds of thousands of dollars that Keith Olberman
went in and then apparently he found out she was
cheating on him and broke up. Rfk Junior was obviously
sexting while married, and she was engaged at the time.
That engagement has now come to an end, and the
guy Ryan is his name. Ryan is also a journalist,
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as was Olivia. Olivia's been on the scene since twenty
twenty four, but she does have a new book coming
out regarding her sexting with Robert F. Kennedy Junior. I'm
sure he can't wait to read it. But he just
dropped a bombshell yesterday. It's called Part one, How I
found Out And he's not talking about Kennedy. What he's
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talking about is Mark Sandford and apparently Olivia was supposed
to be profiling Mark Sandford for The New Yorker or
one of those magazines that she worked for at the time,
as he was beginning his run for the twenty twenty presidency,
which in all honesty, I had forgotten he even ran
for president. And when I thought about it, I was like,
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I really shouldn't have forgot that. He came into the
studio and talked to us about it in twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
He didn't bring the cardboard stand up of Trump with him.
He did that for a press conference, but he did
come in and talk about it.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Yeah, we had him here. And anyway, when she had
come back from South Carol.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
She threw her backpack.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Like on the bed and then ran in to take
a shower or something, and these papers fell out of
the backpack and he looked at him, and one of them,
right at the top was a letter from Mark Sandford,
and not even a letter, I guess you'd describe it
as a note, okay. And he was saying something about
how even if I consumed all the water that was
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it's in this water tower, I was still thirst for
your love, or something to that extent. He thinks he
fancies himself a poet.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
And that was first that was first revealed to us
when he was hyping hip hiking the Appalachian Trail with
a girl from Argentina.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Yeah, if I swallowed every drop of water from the
tower above you, I would still thirst for you.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
But apparently he likes to carry his notebook with him
and then stop when he's out on the back hoe
or the tractor or whatever he's doing out in his property,
and he'll stop and contemplate, write notes and love lets.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
And now this is the now former fiance. He's stuck
by her in this one, so he's like, you know.
I was shocked to realize it was the famous politician
thirty two years older than Olivia, who has already had
a sex scandal, who was running to be the president
of the United States, who she was engaged with. I
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knew I wasn't a perfect partner, but the scale of
Olivia's betrayal was devastating. She had an affair with someone
who would provide the maximum level of humiliation and personal
and professional ruin for both of us. She explained that
she became infatuated with Sandford after she interviewed him, and
she couldn't get him out of her head. So she's
admitting to all of this to her sure fiance at
the time, and then said that the met covering other candidates.
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She fantasized about a rendezvous and it all was consummated
at his home in South Carolina one night after she
went dark on me and made up a story about
how she was dealing with a crisis concerning her sick mother.
So Mark Sandford did make sweet love to Olivia why
and he stayed with her and he and he said,
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before I actually confronted her, I actually had to call
our agent because we had the same agent and said, quote,
we have a big problem. Olivia is sleeping with Mark Sandford.
And so everybody apparently in the New York publishing world
knew that Mark Sandford was having this affair. That was
a well known secret. And I guess the political worlds.
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And so he joins that sad group of men RFK Junior,
who she also was profiling for a piece, and became
obsessed with him. And then we don't know about the
Keith Olberman. She apparently just likes older dudes. She doesn't
care if you're liberal or conservative. I mean Olberman is
as far to the left lunatic as you can get. R. F. K. Junior,
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I guess I would call middle of the road because
he was able to get along with T and Sandford
is as far right as you can get.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
The only thing that these three guys have in common
is that they all have a ton of money and
are old. Okay, they're yeah, they're elderly people. They're elderly,
and they all they all have money.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Yeah, she wants to live off room service, but her
her fiance, he was rich.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
That's a good point, So I wanted to give up
that rich guy.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
I'm just obsessed with rich dude, or I'm obsessed with
old dudes. I'm obsessed with old dudes. She wants think
about that. She fantasizes about having sex with Keith Oberman.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Oh my god, Well that's that's not another on the podcast.
That's not the word picture you wanted.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Do you want me to remind you again that Stephen
Hawking is in the Epstein files.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Please tell more word pictures.
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show. Jonathan Rush, we
have nothing to do with Epstein. The Democrats to all
of his friends were Democrats, Kelly Nash, Larry Summers.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Bill Clinton. They went to his island all the time.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Many of this oral Democrats. Jonathan and Kelly show.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Well, it has been a big morning in DC with
the Epstein victims coming forward along with MTG. She was
hopin mad especially in comments she made directed specifically at
Donald J. Trump about the trader comment she's a trader. Yeah,
that she would like being a trader, but she is
a trade now. She was hopin mad rocon.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
She abandoned the whole MAGA movement. She's intentionally sabotaging Donald
Trump right now.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Well, and we keep being reminded on MSNBC. Excuse me,
MS now.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
That's right, MS thirteen, Now the game.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I keep being reminded on MS now and by the commentators.
I'll leave any of the comments from the persons who
are victims of up stained out of it, just by
the commentators with being that this is not political every
not every person, because a lot of the victims are
speaking from the heart. I get it. That's a painful
(01:16):
place to be and I'm sorry you had to go
through that. This is absolutely political.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yeah, MS now also known as more socialism. Now, why
have they not addressed the fact that, again, Joe Biden
had these files for four years and they opened an
investigation the Biden Department of Justice, and the Biden Department
of Justice said there's nothing there. And then we had
a bunch of people. Look, I'm not saying that it's
right or wrong, but let's be honest. Dan Bongino built
(01:43):
a career and podcasting. His podcast went ranked from like
two hundred and ninetieth to like top ten, and the
whole thesis of his podcast was they're hiding stuff in
the Epstein files. Well, then Dan Bongino gets in there
and goes, I was wrong. So I don't know who
to believe, except it would appear that if Dan Bongino
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says there's nothing in there, and I look like a
moron for saying that, he wouldn't have said that. No,
and now Trump has said, look, it's been a charade,
it's been a political game. It's a hoax that they
keep playing to try to distract from what we're actually
trying to get accomplished. Same thing that they did with
the government shutdown. But if they want to release it,
I've been warning you people, We're going to ruin some
(02:30):
lives over this, people who are innocent people. Mike Johnson's
up there talking about right now, some of the names
in that Epstein file. We know, we know that these
people are actual victims, meaning that they were the ones
that were used in order to get to the sexual
abuse victims, like their parents or their older siblings and
things like that. And America apparently, or at least the
(02:53):
Democrats have said, don't care, let's ruin their lives. So
we're going to ruin some victims' lives.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
And the other thing that they want to make sure
that you understand is Donald Trump told Pam Bondy in
a truth social post, I believe to look at the
Epstein files, in particular with Bill Clinton. He mentioned Bill
Clinton by name.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Lady Summers is in there as well.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Democrat leaders, like you said in the beginning of that
clip up play for you. It's all the Democrats. But
so if he initiated, or if Pam Bondi initiates an investigation,
then when you go to release the information, Donald Trump's
actually playing a joke on you because he knows you
can't release the information during an active investigation. So he
(03:39):
can stand on the podium and say release the information
while knowing full well it can't be released if there's
an active investigation going on, which is the narrative that
you'll hear.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
All day today. That's funny because that is a new narrative.
Like even just twelve hours ago, CNN had not created
that BS narrative. Their headline was the prospect of an
embarrassing defeat has convinced Trump to reverse course on Epstein files.
And then the opening line of the story is Donald
Trump is no longer fighting the release of the Epstein files,
(04:12):
but that doesn't mean that he's happy about it. So
even twelve hours ago, CNN had not concocted this BS
story that by saying I want and again, Donald Trump
is not calling for an investigation into the Epstein files.
He's calling for a specific investigation into Bill Clinton. Yes,
so that does not, according to law, stop us from
(04:33):
releasing everybody else in the Epstein files. So anybody not
named Bill Clinton, your stuff was he actually helped Bill Clinton?
Bill Clinton, You're the only one who's not going to
get all your stuff put out in the public.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Possibly, But if you believe that this is not political,
and if you believe that Donald Trump now suddenly has
put himself in a position to say one thing while
knowing he can't deliver it, then you have to go
back then and recognize that the way that this draft
was written and passed through the House cannot be passed
because it in itself is written in such a way
(05:08):
that would prohibit its release. You can't release all that information.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Well, Mike Johnson saying it's the way the Senate wrote it, right,
That's what he was just claiming that they're in their
hurriedness to try to get this out, and he was like,
and we pointed it out to him, and they told
us go jump in the Potomac, which I don't believe
any of the senators told him to jump in the Potomac.
But whatever, we're gonna pass it. We're we're gonna violate
a lot of laws just to satisfy some people here.
(05:34):
But at the at the end of the day, my
theory is the Democrats have walked into a trap because
the Democrats believed that Donald Trump was the adult. Now
that's the reverse of how they portray him. But Donald
Trump would not hurt Americans. Donald Trump knew there's gonna
be hundreds of people who were gonna end up with
their lives ruined over this, and they were betting on
(05:56):
him protecting them. And so we can just keep taking
shots at him, taking shots, taking shots, taking shots, And
Donald Trump just said yesterday, cut them loose. Those hundred
families are going to be ruined. Sucks to be you, sorry,
but now the Democrats can shut up.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
The other thing you mentioned yesterday end of the podcast
that the Democrats are clinging to is not the Epstein
list or the Epstein files or who's on the list,
who's in the file. Is that the number of times
that Donald Trump is named in these files and in
the emails and from conversations were orchestrated or originated from
(06:32):
Epstein himself. And you pointed this out yesterday, and then
someone else pointed it out the other night as well,
that this guy apparently for a while, was fixated on Trump.
So the mere fact that he wanted to be one
of the persons to bring him down is one of
the reasons why he keeps popping up. His name keeps
popping up in all these emails and files and communications
(06:55):
is because Epstein. Hey, it's not because Donald Trump is
always begging to go down to the island, which is
what the Democrats want you to believe.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
The basic backstory is that in the eighties, Trump knew
Epstein casually, like you probably know a lot of people casually.
You know him enough to say hi, you see him
at a party, you're nice to them, so on and
so forth, you know anything about the guy. Trump got
pissed off at Epstein because Epstein kept stealing some of
the people who worked for him, specifically younger women. We
(07:24):
don't know if those younger women that were working at
mar A Lago and then ended up working for Epstein,
if they were part of the sex trade. We just
know that Trump didn't like it, and he said you
better stop, and then he didn't stop, and then Trump
banned him from his property. I don't know if it
was in revenge for that or not, but allegedly Trump
got a deal that Epstein wanted. Trump stole the deal
(07:46):
is how it was phrased, and then Trump ended up
making like four hundred million dollars on that business deal,
which really pissed off Epstein and then Epstein believed, according
to his biographer, that it was Donald Trump. The West
Palm Beach police on him and said, he's got young
girls at the house. You ought to investigate him. And
so it was because of that investigation that Epstein was
(08:09):
originally arrested. And then you get that bogus deal that
he cut with the district attorney down there at the time.
But that's what put him on the map as a pedophile.
Donald Trump was the hero. Epstein was the villain, and
he never forgave. Donald Trump calls him the worst person
on earth, wants to kill him, blah blah blah. And
(08:30):
he also was heavily invested in the Virgin Islands. If
you look at Epstein Island, Epstein Island is just off
the coast of Saint Thomas. It's like three miles and
if you actually ever go to Saint John's, you take
a ferry from the east end of Saint Thomas to
Saint John's. You end up at a place called Trunk Bay,
which is one of the most beautiful places on earth
(08:51):
in my opinion. But you go right by Epstein Island,
you can see the American flag that he flew. I
took that ferry. I saw that flag. That's where Epstein
Island is, that is part of the US Virgin Islands.
The woman that he's dealing with from the US Virgin
Islands is a member of Congress and he's coaching her
on how to get Donald Trump and that twenty nineteen
(09:13):
House hearing he hated Donald Trump. Now nobody's really asking
her why were you dealing with a known pedophile, in
a sex trafficker, First and foremost, why do you have
his phone number? Because he gives a lot of money
to the Virgin Islands. Yes, he helps my people, big time,
big league.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Yeah. And you see the timeline on the text messages,
and then watch that with the video of the hearing.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Yeah, it's totally obvious what's happening. And again I'm shocked
that's the Washington Post did that work. Yes, the Washington
Post did some serious legwork to come up with that.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
And then if you believe still that this is not political,
when Mika This Morning says, we're talking about fourteen, fifteen,
sixteen year old girls, Okay, children, Okay, Now, I'm not
diminishing the fact that children were certainly sexually trafficked and
(10:07):
abused I'm just talking about Mika's own words right now.
They are physically children, they're psychologically children. Now, remember this
is all non political, Kelly. These are children. It's the
same damn network that told you was okay to mutilate nine,
ten and eleven year olds and use hormones to block
(10:30):
their transgender dreams or nightmares. So don't come preaching to
me about damn children. I mean, you sound as fake
as Nancy Pelosi. We're here for the children.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Yeah, It's tough to have it both ways when you
say that a child is, by your description, sixteen years old,
doesn't know any better and can be easily deceived into
becoming a sex slave. At the same time, nine year
old can make a decision to start taking pure blockers,
or a twelve year old can hack his penis off.
(11:04):
It's hard to imagine that that you're the same person.
You're not intellectually honest.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Of all the victims who stepped forward. Look, I'm not
taking anything away from what they're saying. With it went through.
I get it. I know women that were raped, I
get it. I get it now. The guy who was
speaking for his sister, he went out of his way
to make sure everybody understood this was not political. But
then in his description of his sister's path that led
her to Epstein, he started off with her job at
(11:34):
mar Lago where she met Julian Maxwell. Plainly, but you
had to bring in Trump in that, in a non
political environment, you had to bring Trump's mar Largo property
in that. While you stand there and tell me this
is not political.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Again, I think that he's inadvertently defending the president because
Trump publicly stated many times before Epstein was convicted again
or not convicted again, but arrested again and died in
the prison. So he said many times that I never
liked him, and I threw him off my property for
(12:12):
stealing my employees, and that I'm guessing that this girl
was one of his employees that was targeted by Epstein,
And so Trump was trying to make sure that no
more of his employees had that happened to him. And
again two thousand and four, Trump called the cops and said,
go after this guy for targeting girls.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Well, we're going to see more continuation coverage on that,
and then what happens with this vote that's coming up,
and will they be able? Will they will Mike Johnson
be able to have someone listen to the fact that
if you're going to write this law, you might as
well write it in such a way that a it
could be actually implemented. Otherwise you're hiding behind the grandstanding
what you claim that Donald Trump is doing. So if
(12:55):
you're going to write it this such a way that
you could actually get more information that would be helpful.
If you write it this way, then as soon as
you pass it. According to Mike Johnson, you're going to
have people that were victims who have asked not to
have their information released. I don't know how they would
do it, but they would have standing. Someone will find
them or they will find some way to have standing
(13:18):
that you automatically file a lawsuit to block the Damn
Bill and to go to the Supreme Court.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
You know, And I'm just gonna now I'm going to
sound callous. You sounded callous earlier. I'm going to sound callous.
There's approximately they just say, they always say, there's just
over one thousand Epstein victims. Make it eleven hundred. Make
it two thousand, I mean double it the two thousand.
That's a lot of people who are sexually abused and
(13:45):
or victimized by Epstein. However, since they started talking about Epstein,
I'm talking about the Democrats.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
I have not heard.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
I don't think I've heard one word. I google the
ex accounts and stuff of these liberals that are the
leaders and whatnot. The existential threat that's going to kill
us all is global warming. They have refused to bring
that up. That doesn't just affect the two thousand victims.
(14:13):
That affects all seven billion people on Earth. And we
were supposed to have, as AOC said, we were supposed
to spend all the money on Earth in order to
stop this. That's right, We're not spending a nickel on
it now. And this is how many years later. I mean,
(14:34):
she was talking about the end of the world in
twelve years, right, that was I think twenty eighteen. So
we're halfway to the end of the world. And you
would think, again, I'm not minimizing two thousand sexual victims
or a thousand or whatever it is that does not
affect the majority of Americans. Epstein will say the threat
(14:55):
has been neutralized. We will say that most of the
people who were the rich, powerful business people that we
like to imagine were in there, that they're either dead
or neutralized themselves to some extent like Prince Andrew Stephen Hawking.
These people are Stephen Hawking is no longer breathing. So
(15:16):
I mean, nobody's talking about Bill Gates. Bill Gates' wife
divorced him, Melinda, allegedly, according to the reports back in
twenty twenty one, was because she did not like the
fact that he would not stop spending time at Epstein Island. Now,
is Bill Gates going to go down?
Speaker 3 (15:34):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
I don't see anybody crying about it. I don't see
anybody saying Bill Gates needs to go to prison. I
don't say anybody saying Bill Gates is the one trying
to block this. I don't even hear Greta Thunberg talking
about it.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
And Roe Conna, who was part of the press conference today,
I'm not going to doubt his motivation. If he wants
to stand up for victims and work for victims, I
got it, and you should. And this is not a
criticism of this day, but ro Conne, you're part of
a damn party that watched for four years or longer
(16:05):
if you want to go back to the Obama administration.
But you certainly watched for four years children being moved
across our southern border, and nobody said a damn word.
But by the time Biden left the White House, you
had more than four hundred and fifty thousand children who
are unaccounted for. You get sexual trafficking going on right
(16:26):
here in this country, probably by a lot of damn Americans.
You should be arrested, and certainly by the cartel. But
you have did not raise a damn eyebrow for all
those years that you knew it was going on. So
I get it with the sexual trafficking being an awful
smear on humanity. It is, but you facilitated it.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Yeah, I mean, look, this was not a big deal
for Congress, nor should it be a big deal for Congress.
This is there are legit millions of women and unfortunately
young boys as well, that are sexually abused either by
relatives or actually introduced into the sex slave trade annually
(17:12):
in this country. Now, if you're saying we want to
address that issue as Congress, that's one thing. You're talking
about a small group of individuals who may be rich
and powerful, who may have abused a thousand people. That
is not for Congress. Is that's really not even in
your purview. That's many of these women aren't even American citizens.
(17:36):
You're just talking about you want to feel good because
you stood up to rich and powerful people. That's what
everybody wants to feel like they're doing. That's fantastic. You
are supposed to be concerned about what's going on with
I guess Russia, Ukraine. That's something you could be concerned
about because that would affect the United States, Israel, our
(17:59):
closest Middle East ally, and the Palestinians. I see a
new poll here right now, Hamas is gaining in popularity
right now, fifty two percent of Palestinians want Hamas to
lead the Palestinians. They want the known terrorists, that's who
they're That's so what do you do?
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Now?
Speaker 2 (18:18):
How how does that end? Congress? You got an answer
you you you want? Do you want Hamas to be
in charge? Or are you going to step in and
say we're not going to allow the Palestinians to have
their way? You don't get to pick your leaders.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
I'm glad this is not political killing.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
How does it end up in Congress? If it's not political?
Isn't that what the role of Congress is.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
So one of the things that I got actually got
a kick out of today and I probably should not have,
was I need some I need a little political comedy.
Yesterday in the New York Post.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
It was actually this morning, this morning's front page, right
the number one story of the day.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
But it's in there. They're writing about us in South Carolina. No,
not us. We can disassociate well, we can't disassociate ourselves totally.
He was the governor. Here, they're writing about Mark Sanford.
It was three people you'd never put in the same room,
certainly not in the same intimate room.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Yeah, they probably are wishing that they weren't a part
of this. Keith Oberman, Keith Oberman, Robert K Jr.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
And Robert and Mark Sanford.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yes, all three of those men slept with the same woman.
And that woman her name is I believe it's pronounced
Olivia Nuzzy. Olivia. You might remember she became somewhat infamous
last year because she's the one who brought forth the
allegations and some proof that she was involved in a
(19:55):
sexting relationship with R. F K Junior. Now RFK Jr.
Apparently did not actually physically engage. Sounds like he physically
engaged with himself while texting, and that's.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
What you would be led to believe.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Yes, didn't actually do any swapping of fluids between the two,
unlike Keith Olberman. Keith Olberman apparently this sounds almost like
a pay for play situation. He bought her an apartment
to live in and then paid for her Fordham University degree.
(20:32):
So that's hundreds of thousands of dollars that Keith Olberman
went in and then apparently he found out she was
cheating on him and broke up. Rfk Junior was obviously
sexting while married, and she was engaged at the time.
That engagement has now come to an end, and the
guy Ryan is his name. Ryan is also a journalist,
(20:58):
as was Olivia. Olivia's been on the scene since twenty
twenty four, but she does have a new book coming
out regarding her sexting with Robert F. Kennedy Junior. I'm
sure he can't wait to read it. But he just
dropped a bombshell yesterday. It's called Part one, How I
found Out And he's not talking about Kennedy. What he's
(21:21):
talking about is Mark Sandford and apparently Olivia was supposed
to be profiling Mark Sandford for The New Yorker or
one of those magazines that she worked for at the time,
as he was beginning his run for the twenty twenty presidency,
which in all honesty, I had forgotten he even ran
for president. And when I thought about it, I was like,
(21:42):
I really shouldn't have forgot that. He came into the
studio and talked to us about it in twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
He didn't bring the cardboard stand up of Trump with him.
He did that for a press conference, but he did
come in and talk about it.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Yeah, we had him here. And anyway, when she had
come back from South Carol.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
She threw her backpack.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Like on the bed and then ran in to take
a shower or something, and these papers fell out of
the backpack and he looked at him, and one of them,
right at the top was a letter from Mark Sandford,
and not even a letter, I guess you'd describe it
as a note, okay. And he was saying something about
how even if I consumed all the water that was
(22:25):
it's in this water tower, I was still thirst for
your love, or something to that extent. He thinks he
fancies himself a poet.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
And that was first that was first revealed to us
when he was hyping hip hiking the Appalachian Trail with
a girl from Argentina.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Yeah, if I swallowed every drop of water from the
tower above you, I would still thirst for you.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
But apparently he likes to carry his notebook with him
and then stop when he's out on the back hoe
or the tractor or whatever he's doing out in his property,
and he'll stop and contemplate, write notes and love lets.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
And now this is the now former fiance. He's stuck
by her in this one, so he's like, you know.
I was shocked to realize it was the famous politician
thirty two years older than Olivia, who has already had
a sex scandal, who was running to be the president
of the United States, who she was engaged with. I
(23:22):
knew I wasn't a perfect partner, but the scale of
Olivia's betrayal was devastating. She had an affair with someone
who would provide the maximum level of humiliation and personal
and professional ruin for both of us. She explained that
she became infatuated with Sandford after she interviewed him, and
she couldn't get him out of her head. So she's
admitting to all of this to her sure fiance at
the time, and then said that the met covering other candidates.
(23:46):
She fantasized about a rendezvous and it all was consummated
at his home in South Carolina one night after she
went dark on me and made up a story about
how she was dealing with a crisis concerning her sick mother.
So Mark Sandford did make sweet love to Olivia why
and he stayed with her and he and he said,
(24:12):
before I actually confronted her, I actually had to call
our agent because we had the same agent and said, quote,
we have a big problem. Olivia is sleeping with Mark Sandford.
And so everybody apparently in the New York publishing world
knew that Mark Sandford was having this affair. That was
a well known secret. And I guess the political worlds.
(24:33):
And so he joins that sad group of men RFK Junior,
who she also was profiling for a piece, and became
obsessed with him. And then we don't know about the
Keith Olberman. She apparently just likes older dudes. She doesn't
care if you're liberal or conservative. I mean Olberman is
as far to the left lunatic as you can get. R. F. K. Junior,
(24:56):
I guess I would call middle of the road because
he was able to get along with T and Sandford
is as far right as you can get.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
The only thing that these three guys have in common
is that they all have a ton of money and
are old. Okay, they're yeah, they're elderly people. They're elderly,
and they all they all have money.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Yeah, she wants to live off room service, but her
her fiance, he was rich.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
That's a good point, So I wanted to give up
that rich guy.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
I'm just obsessed with rich dude, or I'm obsessed with
old dudes. I'm obsessed with old dudes. She wants think
about that. She fantasizes about having sex with Keith Oberman.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Oh my god, Well that's that's not another on the podcast.
That's not the word picture you wanted.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Do you want me to remind you again that Stephen
Hawking is in the Epstein files.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Please tell more word pictures.
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