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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show. Jonathan Rush and.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Let me be very clear about Stacey PLASKI. She's a
woman of great intelligence and a woman of great integrity.
She deserves the opportunity to be heard. Kelly Nash, and
I began to get innumerable text and I got a
text from Jeffrey Epstein, who at the time was my constituent,
who was not public knowledge at that time that he
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was under federal investigation.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
The Jonathan and Kelly Show. Don't play word games with her,
Kelly Nash.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I think she's playing word games with us, because I'm
pretty sure she's playing word game. That trial that she
or that hearing that she's talking about with Michael Cohen
was in twenty nineteen. It was in two thousand and
eight eight that mister Epstein had been arrested and then
convicted pled guilty to sex with people under the age
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of eighteen, and then even further, much worse than that,
I would think would be that the Miami Herald had
run an expose interviewing fifty victims in twenty eighteen. So
for her to act as if she didn't know he
was under a federal investigation, that was implied by the
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Miami Harold and interviewing fifty victims.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
He's a delegate from the US Virgin Ologe. You don't
know she gets the Miami Harold delivered there. How would
she possibly have that information?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
I'm pretty sure. I mean my memory, and again memory
is a funny thing, so I don't know if I'm misremembering.
But it seems like we all knew Epstein was a
freak by the twenty fifteen twenty sixteen window because we
were hearing more and more stories about him, and of
course in twenty eighteen, when Miami Harold ran their expose,
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it's not in a vacuum. Other media outlets pick it up.
Everybody knows that Jeffrey Epstein is doing really bad things.
The thought, if I remember right, the thought was perhaps
he is in business, or the same thought that's out
there today that perhaps he has blackmailed too many high profile,
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powerful individuals. Because in twenty eight Miami Beach Police or
excuse me, the Palm Beach Police found hidden cameras in
that house in Florida. So we assumed that the house
in the Virgin Islands aka Epstein Island was filled with
cameras and at the play. Was you get a high
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profile powerful person, a CEO, a president, some sort of
you know, some sort of Democrat politician, because only they're
the freaks, and then they come down and they have
a good time, so to speak. And then after the
good time, Jeffrey shows them the tape and says, now
you'll be taking my calls forever. Now now I have
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you because here you are with a sixteen year old girl.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Imagine mister eneror your constituent walk into their mailbox we
Go magazine and they receive.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
This not not just heartache, Mitch, Nope.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Not not not not just heartache.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Now, this is the kind of lust that a young
bride certainly can't forget and never will forgive.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Mmm. Now that's the kind of angle that everybody, well
not everybody, I don't know what everybody was thinking, but
a lot of people were thinking. That's exactly what he
set it up for. And that's why he was fighting
everybody down. And that's you know, once he gets you there,
you're on the hook. And now you're blackmailed. And now
certainly he can extort whatever you like, votes, money, whatever
it is. But you know all of that now, and
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oh the other thing that we learned yesterday while she
was talking specifically, and Ralph Norman brought the measure to
the floor where she would be censured for having the
text messages when she said that Jeffrey Epstein was a
constituent time and I was wondering, that's a great idea
for Ralph Norman and all the House members. You should
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make sure that all your constituents have your mobile phone number.
That way I could text Ralph Norman during a subcommittee
hearing in the House and ask him to ask questions
like who is Rona? Ask who Rona?
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Is it an acronym? I don't know what does that mean.
It's like it's like bill O'Reilly, what does it mean?
Sting to sing us out?
Speaker 1 (04:22):
What does it mean?
Speaker 3 (04:22):
There's no words.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Now, you would think as an attorney and playing word games,
she should know never ask a question the answer to
But we did get an answer immediately from Michael Cohen
on who Rona was and a description. But it was
total embarrassment.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
The fact that they won't censure her. I don't know
who these Republicans are. I haven't gone and looked yet.
And King Jeffries, who received apparently hundreds of thousands of
dollars from mister Epstein. And I don't know. We haven't
figured out yet if Plaskett actually got cash from Epstein,
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but we do know that she solicited cash.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
You could ask Donald Trump, because he told you he
just got an updated list yesterday, have it right here
in my pucket.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Yes, I'm sure he'll be bringing that out.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
All the Democrats that got money from Epstein.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
For Hakeem Jeffries to act as it because he we
didn't play it on here. But he said, you know,
the the House Republicans. The first person they tried to
censure was I forget the lady's name, the nut job
who got into the fist fight with the police department
in New Jersey over ice. Then the next one is
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il haan Omar. And then the third one now is
Stacey Plaskett. And he is like, he asked the leading question,
what do all three of these individuals have in common?
I must ask, They're all lunatics who hate America. That's
probably what they all have in common.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Description she hates America, but.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
The implication obviously is race and sex. And then he
goes on to say, how wonderful Plasket is she is
a highly intelligent and blah blah blah. Yeah, well she
she looked like she was Epstein's hand puppet, is what
she looked like. Epstein just put his hand right up
her butt and said, say what I tell you to do,
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dumb dumb, This is your job, dumb dumb, say what
I tell you to say. But finally, uh, this whole idea, Jonathan,
that what we saw was completely proper, and that that
that she is above reproach is so outlandish and outrageous.
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Hakeem Jeffries needs to we need to bring back shame.
I don't know what's wrong with Hakeem Jeffries. His brain
seems to be broken. But if but this is where
we're at in America. The left is so lunatic fringe.
Now you've got people like Mark Kelly yesterday coming out
with it was almost on like a brainwashing tape, trying
to get National Guards troops to defy orders and not illegals.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Yeah, well, I got one question from Mark Kelly. If
you are if you need to as a member of
the military, if you obviously can, and you should, and
it's written and it is policy, you do not follow
illegal orders. So Mark Kelly, I got one question for you.
What is the illegal order? What was the illegal order? You?
Certainly the reason you bring this up is because Donald
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Trump has asked our military to follow illegal orders. So
what were those orders or what is the order that
you are concerned about that you think that he's going
to continue to use the military to overreach. And I'm
not your constituent. I don't have your phone number, so
I can't text you and ask you this, But as
an American citizen, I'd like to know that the commander
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in chief is issuing illegal orders to our military. That
will be something the American people should know.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
I just looked up this morning, and thankfully this is
coming from one of the liberal universities that the Libs
love do Duke Duke University. The final illegal order that
has been given by a president. Now, this was written
in twenty eighteen, so I'll point that out. There could
have been something from Trump. President Barack Obama's authorization of
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a swap of five Taliban prisoners for Sergeant bo Bergdal,
which involved military personnel, was found by the General Accountability
Office to be an illegal order, and all military personnel
involved could have been court martialed for doing this.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Wow, so Obama brought you that.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
And there are some that contend, though it was never
pressed that baracks what they're calling illegal drone war where
he never sought any guidance from Congress and killed literally
thousands of people far more than we're killing right now
from Venezuela on the.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Boats, including an American citizen. Did he kill an American citizen?
I know that.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
I know that when Joe Biden tried to strike back,
he ended up killing a whole bunch of US AID workers.
That was that was lovely awkward, very awkward.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Yeah, and he probably said we got him. Know, you've
freaking got some guy from Ohio. Yeah, you killed his family, Joe.
But anyway, Uh, that was the last illegal order given
by a president was Barack Obama. And I don't remember
Mark Kelly or any of the other geniuses that were
involved yesterday making their big bold brainwashing speech of you
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can you can ignore illegal orders, you must ignore illegal orders.
I don't remember them saying boo about Obama.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
So certainly now that it passed through the Senate, and
you know, Fune said that after Johnson made his plea
that they go back and change a couple of things
that he went out of his way to describe yesterday
and even brought in ross Perote chart so you can
put it up there for you. So he was imploring
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the Senate to make these changes. Lune said, no, We've
already talked to the attorneys. We think we're good here,
so let's proceed. Proceed, and they proceeded. Okay, now it
goes to Trump's desk. What has it been transferred yet
from the through Congress and heads to the It says, well,
breaking news.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
The Senate receives the Epstein bill, and now it's going
to head to the Trump's desk, so it'll probably be
signed today. It doesn't it doesn't matter. There's really nothing
left to say in there.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
It would appear.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
But you know, Jonathan and my research about the last
illegal order, I found something very interesting because we talked
about it, maybe I don't know, four or five months ago,
I guess when this whole idea of bringing out the
National Guard and people were saying it's an illegal order
and blah blah blah. And then we talked about the
bold step that Lincoln took to suspend Habeas Corpus and
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how that led to a fight with several Supreme Court
justices and blah blah blah blah blah. What I did
not know is that we have had lunatic judges in
America for many, many years. And I'm going to take
you to the story of a man named Lambdon Milligan.
Now I don't know Lambdon Milligan. I hadn't heard of
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Lambdon Milligan until this morning. But Lambdon Milligan from Indiana, Huntington,
Indiana is a left leaning lunatic who hates the Union
and started a group of people. What he actually had
a cool name for his group. I'm trying to find
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his name again. It was it was a cool name
for a group anyway. But they hate the Union and
they want to end the war. They want to kill
Union soldiers and they and they want to not only
kill Union soldiers, they want to free the Confederate prisoners
of war. So that's their plan. How can we murder
Union souls? Now that gets exposed, it's not one of
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those things that's debatable. There's writing. It's in his handwriting.
You're writing to your group. Here's the plan's call to action. Yes,
it was called the Sons of liberty, the sons of liberty.
We're going to murder about forty Union soldiers and then
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we're going to free about one hundred Confederate soldiers. That's
the plan. He gets caught now because of the suspension
of habeas corpus at that time, we're not going to
take him to a civilian court. We're going to take
him to a military tribunal. He is found guilty, obviously,
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he is then sentenced to death. In the interim before
the death is executed, the war ends, everything is restored, right.
They then say, well, we've got lawyers who say he
should have never been convicted in a military tribunal as
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a civilian. They sue, They win, so he is free
to go back home. So again I'm plotting to murder
US service members, no penalty. Then mister Milligan doubles down.
Mister Milligan then launches a lawsuit against the federal government,
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suing them for his incarceration because he wanted to murder
military members.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
He was illegally arrested, entertained.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
He wins the case.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Wow, during a time of war. He wins that case.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
They presented again the military or the lawyers for the
United States government brought his handwriting and said, is this
not your handwriting? Yes, we are going to shoot them
and behead them. That's your plan, yes, And you're saying
you shouldn't be held accountable for that. I didn't do it,
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but that was the plan that we stopped because we
suspended habeas corpus because in Indiana they would have never
prosecuted you for this right correct, well, and because we
have left leaning lunatic judges all the way back to
eighteen sixty six. He wins his lawsuit and then he
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goes on and practices law in Indiana for another thirty
years and he dies at the ripe old age of
eighty seven, at eighteen ninety nine.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
That is an amazing story.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
So it's not just us who are going what the
flip is happening with the legal system in America?
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Oh my gosh. Okay, so we will get the Epstein.
And now after we have the Epstein files, what happens now?
They call the DOJ, and the THEJ just backs it
all up and dumps it all off right there at
the White House. What's the next proceeding here? Do we know?
Speaker 3 (14:55):
I think we're in uncharted territories.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
I mean, what's his name?
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Thomas Massey apparently put into the bill that everybody voted
on a clause that gives Pam Bondi the right to
remove anybody's name. Yes, why would he put that in
there when he's mister Trump, mister Transparency's screaming for it.
We got to release this information as it is now. Yeah,
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except let me put this into the bill so nobody
knows about it. I don't know what hell Thomas Massey's doing.
Does Thomas Massey suddenly have a coach? And again, the
whole idea of why Trump was not for this is
because there, as he said, going to be many, many
families that are going to be ruined by this that
have nothing to do with anything perverted or ugly or
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anything like that. And many of them are actually victims
of Epstein. But they're gonna have their names dragged out
into the mud if you just release all these files unfiltered.
And the Democrats, in a unified voice said, fhem, let's
kill them all. And now we got Republicans who are saying, okay,
you know what, we'll do it too, and Trump is saying,
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let it ride. Then let it ride if you all
want to let it ride. Let it ride. I want
to get back to actually things that'll help the country.
And if, unfortunately, if the Democrats are blood thirsty and
want to take out one hundred families and destroy them,
I guess that is a price that the America is
willing to pay. But we're going to do it because
we're not going to hold up the progress.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
What a huge announcement. It came down yesterday live in
the Oval Office with the Crown prints almost a trillion
dollar and he committed the du A Trigon after the
six hundred and fifty million trillion dollar investment in the US. Yeah. Wow.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
You know when people talk about affordability and stuff of that,
and I get it. I mean it's under Joe Biden,
the affordability thanks to inflation when there is no affordability.
So Trump can't get prices to actually go lower than
they really are. The only thing Trump can do really
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is slow the rate of inflation, which they've done. It's
just like about three percent.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
I think right now.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
It's coming even lower. But he's trying to grow us
out of it, meaning wages for American workers will go
up and the money in your pocket beginning next year,
will go up. Now, will it be enough before the midterms,
I don't know. But that's what the big beautiful bill
is all about, which will be instituted beginning in.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
January, and it's going to take a little while after.
We continue to grow the economy. As he demonstrated yesterday,
Now you've got to let the free market system work
because at some point you're going to have to see
the markets start to go back to it supply and
demand a competition in the marketplace to bring prices down.
And it's funny. I'm reminded of a conversation I have
with a person who works at I don't want to
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say what she does for a living. Let's say she
works at one of those spa places. Okay, so she
provides personal service, and she was complaining about the high
cost of everything, grocery store prices and the like. And
I said, you know, after we came out of COVID,
a lot of things that went up, like automobile costs.
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By the way, there was a problem there with the
supply chain. There were a lot of different things going
on at the same time. But what happened you'll find out.
We've read about this. Maybe I could be wrong. I've
only read about it. We're automobile dealerships, for instance, used
to have like fifteen twenty salespeople. They now got half
of that. But then they're not worried about the inventory
as much because now they've already reconditioned the market with
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the cost of the car is more, they're making more
money per car. They don't have to have as many
people on the payroll, so they cut down their business expense.
And this is the new policy, this is the new
way that, this is the mo for car dealers. Now,
that may be unfair, that may not be right if
you work at a car dealership. And I insulted you,
I'm sorry, that's not what my attition was. The whole
point was. And I said to her, when we see
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things finally start to come back down, after this settles,
then that's when you're finally going to get some relief
from the initial problem with the inflation, COVID supply chain,
the compounding problems there. And she said in the conversation, well,
you're right, people got used to pay them more. I'm
never bringing my prices down now because I can charge
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two hundred dollars for a haircut and sell and whatever
it is she does, whereas before I was only getting
one hundred and fifty and I'm like, see, you're the problem.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Well no, no, she's not the problem. The free market
needs to fix it, and the free market will fix it,
because if I'm somebody who wants to compete with her,
I'll charge one hundred and seventy five instead of two hundred,
and then somebody else will come along in charge one forty,
and then somebody will come along in charge ninety, and
somebody will charge ten. I mean, you can still go
to like Supercuts and get like a twelve dollars haircut
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right now, but it.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Will take a while after that turnal round and you
look at the it's going to be an extra while
because you also have, like they announced yesterday and they
were talking about in Greenville, South Carolina, the turbine plant there.
When you start building out these facilities and you're hiring
more people, and they're hiring a lot of people in
that particular job in Greenville, when you're hiring more people,
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is going to take longer to get facility built. You
will have construction jobs go up immediately because now you've
got to get the plant fixed. But now you're going
to get the workers in. So it will take a
while to get all of that momentum from the trillions
he's bringing in, in particular like yesterday from Saudi Arabia.
So it's going to take a while for the market
to start settling back in as it will do in
the private sector, and it'll be a supplying demand of
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the market. Competition and all those things will come back
into play. But it ain't going to happen overnight.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Well, again, the goal is with the tax cuts that
come with the big beautiful bill. I know that as
just an individual you probably won't feel those until twenty
twenty seven when you file your tax return. But businesses
who file quarterly earnings and they pay their taxes quarterly,
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they should start reaping huge benefits in like April, and
so with that happening in April, usually what would happen
with a business is when they find themselves cash heavy,
they do several things. One they might return if it's
a publicly traded company, they'll buy backstock, or they'll their
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stock prices will skyrocket, which is nice. Or oftentimes they'll
look at it as an opportunity to invest in their business.
And grow market share, so they're going to hire more people,
and they'll also sometimes give bonuses to employees for helping
them achieve great earnings. That's called trickle down economics by
the Democrats, but that's just called great business by people
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who are capitalists. And so we should start seeing now
we're cutting it very close because November is the midterms.
We're hopefully going to see in late April early May.
Throughout the summer the economy really starting to heal as
these companies are finding themselves with massive discounts on their
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tax bills. And as that happens, then the economy will
have more money going into it in a way where
it's not just going to drive up inflation, because the
more money that goes into the economy, the inflation will
go up. But if they can keep that inflation kind
of cool while people find affordability coming, meaning it doesn't
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matter if a house is four hundred thousand dollars if
you know I'm making four hundred thousand dollars a year,
if I'm making eighty thousand dollars a year, a four
hundred thousand dollars house might be aspirational. But if I
double my salary, then all of a sudden, we don't
have a cost problem. And that's kind of where we're
up against a clock, because if it doesn't fix itself
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before the end of October, and that's when people start
early voting, then we're going to be in a bad
way because if Trump loses the House and or the Senate,
you can then just look at everything being blocked for
the last two years and nothing really being able to
get done.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Very true now here in the state of South Carolinas.
Anticipated outside of the Aggressive building today it was a
standing line of people trying to get into standing room
only for a subcommittee hearing that would have brought the
brought us to one of the if not the most
restrictive state, one of the most restrictive states for abortions.
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We already are one of the most but not the
most restrictive. Now. Richard Cash, Republican out of the Upstate,
if I remember correctly, was the one who pretty much
has been pushing for this and was able to bring
it to a subcommittee. But he lost support even from
some Republicans yesterday as it was deemed that his presentation
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was a little too restrictive and a little too punitive
for persons like mothers, and then created problems for people
like doctors or hospital staff or the like. Even have
a conversation about an abortion of being available or abortioned
the word abortion on either side, you could find yourself
in a position where you would have to answer to
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this law. It did not get enough votes in the
subcommittee to be able to advance to the floor, and
I for one, I'm kind of glad. We spent a
lot of time batting it back and forth in different
subcommittee hearings of Houses Senate, coming up with different plans
for the six week abortion bill. I'm happy, not elated,
but I'm happy we're able to get that one through.
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But you know, it seems like we were wasting a
lot of General Assembly time working on this one issue
when we could have been doing a lot of other things.
And there are a lot of there are a lot
of needs that the state needs to have addressed that's coming.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Here well, and when you look at abortion, you know,
I know, people say that we're one of the most restrictive.
We're actually what's called a Tier two state, So we're
one of four states South Carolina, Iowa, Georgia, and Florida
are Tier two abortion restriction states, the ones that are
the most restrictive. That's Tier one states. That's there's twelve
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and that's Alabama, Arkansas, Idaho, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Misissippi, Oklahoma,
South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, and West virgin and that one.
They will only allow an abortion to save the life
of a pregnant woman. If it's not explicitly to save
their life. I don't care if you're a weak pregnant
you're not getting the abortion in those states. South Carolina
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we've got if we can detect heart rate activity, that's
usually around six weeks. So that's why we're a Tier two.
Had this bill actually gone into law, amazingly, then would
they would have to create a new tier because we'd
be the only state in the country that was not
only we're not doing it for any reason except to
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save the life of a mother, but if a person
gets an abortion, she herself will go to prison. Which
is why so many pro life people, including myself, said
I can't tolerate this. You know, when you look at
the data that shows that over sixty percent of people
who get an abortion say they felt pressured to get
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the abortion. Usually it's younger people, it's their parents, it's educators,
it's authority figures in their lives who they probably should
have listened to earlier, else they will know not to
find yourself in this situation. But once you're in that situation,
when they're saying the best route, the only route for
you right now is to get an abortion, or else
you can't live in my house. As your father, I'm
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telling you, you either kill that kid or you're out
of my house. Well, they feel pressure today, so it's
not really their pro choice. These people that are forcing
him into it are pro death. And I don't want
to make the victim who had to make that hard
choice to get an abortion, or it's not even a
hard choice, was felt forced into the abortion. To then
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compound the misery by giving them a six month prison
sentence or something that seems insane. And I mean, I'm
sure that the man has a good heart for the
Lord and all that other stuff, but that bill was
ridiculous and I'm glad that it's not gonna Well, he
says he's going to try to bring it back up,
but you better come up with a new way of
writing it, because that way ain't going to fly in
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South Carolina.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
And it's interesting you bring up the fact that a
lot of them feel pressure, and it's you. The way
the law is written. Now, if I agree to something,
if I start a contract under duress, that within itself
just being under duress to sign it is against the
law to put me in a position like that. So
you can imagine the kind of conversations you would have
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between men and women. Yeah, the woman wants to have
the baby, the guide does not. Yeah, this is that's
that's ugly or could be.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Yeah, and then if you end up sending everybody to
prison that I mean, this is the It's not the
right way. It's not the right way.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
No, it's not. And as we learned just by reading
the paper every day, if you send somebody to the
prison in South Carolina, it's pretty much becoming a death sentence. Hello, Hello,
somebody to help us with our prison system. Maybe we'll
get into that soon.
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show. Jonathan Rush and.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Let me be very clear about Stacey PLASKI. She's a
woman of great intelligence and a woman of great integrity.
She deserves the opportunity to be heard. Kelly Nash, and
I began to get innumerable text and I got a
text from Jeffrey Epstein, who at the time was my constituent,
who was not public knowledge at that time that he
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was under federal investigation.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
The Jonathan and Kelly Show. Don't play word games with her,
Kelly Nash.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I think she's playing word games with us, because I'm
pretty sure she's playing word game. That trial that she
or that hearing that she's talking about with Michael Cohen
was in twenty nineteen. It was in two thousand and
eight eight that mister Epstein had been arrested and then
convicted pled guilty to sex with people under the age
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of eighteen, and then even further, much worse than that,
I would think would be that the Miami Herald had
run an expose interviewing fifty victims in twenty eighteen. So
for her to act as if she didn't know he
was under a federal investigation, that was implied by the
(01:18):
Miami Harold and interviewing fifty victims.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
He's a delegate from the US Virgin Ologe. You don't
know she gets the Miami Harold delivered there. How would
she possibly have that information?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
I'm pretty sure. I mean my memory, and again memory
is a funny thing, so I don't know if I'm misremembering.
But it seems like we all knew Epstein was a
freak by the twenty fifteen twenty sixteen window because we
were hearing more and more stories about him, and of
course in twenty eighteen, when Miami Harold ran their expose,
(01:50):
it's not in a vacuum. Other media outlets pick it up.
Everybody knows that Jeffrey Epstein is doing really bad things.
The thought, if I remember right, the thought was perhaps
he is in business, or the same thought that's out
there today that perhaps he has blackmailed too many high profile,
(02:13):
powerful individuals. Because in twenty eight Miami Beach Police or
excuse me, the Palm Beach Police found hidden cameras in
that house in Florida. So we assumed that the house
in the Virgin Islands aka Epstein Island was filled with
cameras and at the play. Was you get a high
(02:35):
profile powerful person, a CEO, a president, some sort of
you know, some sort of Democrat politician, because only they're
the freaks, and then they come down and they have
a good time, so to speak. And then after the
good time, Jeffrey shows them the tape and says, now
you'll be taking my calls forever. Now now I have
(02:56):
you because here you are with a sixteen year old girl.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Imagine mister eneror your constituent walk into their mailbox we
Go magazine and they receive.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
This not not just heartache, Mitch, Nope.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Not not not not just heartache.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Now, this is the kind of lust that a young
bride certainly can't forget and never will forgive.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Mmm. Now that's the kind of angle that everybody, well
not everybody, I don't know what everybody was thinking, but
a lot of people were thinking. That's exactly what he
set it up for. And that's why he was fighting
everybody down. And that's you know, once he gets you there,
you're on the hook. And now you're blackmailed. And now
certainly he can extort whatever you like, votes, money, whatever
it is. But you know all of that now, and
(03:43):
oh the other thing that we learned yesterday while she
was talking specifically, and Ralph Norman brought the measure to
the floor where she would be censured for having the
text messages when she said that Jeffrey Epstein was a
constituent time and I was wondering, that's a great idea
for Ralph Norman and all the House members. You should
(04:03):
make sure that all your constituents have your mobile phone number.
That way I could text Ralph Norman during a subcommittee
hearing in the House and ask him to ask questions
like who is Rona? Ask who Rona?
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Is it an acronym? I don't know what does that mean.
It's like it's like bill O'Reilly, what does it mean?
Sting to sing us out?
Speaker 1 (04:22):
What does it mean?
Speaker 3 (04:22):
There's no words.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Now, you would think as an attorney and playing word games,
she should know never ask a question the answer to
But we did get an answer immediately from Michael Cohen
on who Rona was and a description. But it was
total embarrassment.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
The fact that they won't censure her. I don't know
who these Republicans are. I haven't gone and looked yet.
And King Jeffries, who received apparently hundreds of thousands of
dollars from mister Epstein. And I don't know. We haven't
figured out yet if Plaskett actually got cash from Epstein,
(04:59):
but we do know that she solicited cash.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
You could ask Donald Trump, because he told you he
just got an updated list yesterday, have it right here
in my pucket.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Yes, I'm sure he'll be bringing that out.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
All the Democrats that got money from Epstein.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
For Hakeem Jeffries to act as it because he we
didn't play it on here. But he said, you know,
the the House Republicans. The first person they tried to
censure was I forget the lady's name, the nut job
who got into the fist fight with the police department
in New Jersey over ice. Then the next one is
(05:33):
il haan Omar. And then the third one now is
Stacey Plaskett. And he is like, he asked the leading question,
what do all three of these individuals have in common?
I must ask, They're all lunatics who hate America. That's
probably what they all have in common.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Description she hates America, but.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
The implication obviously is race and sex. And then he
goes on to say, how wonderful Plasket is she is
a highly intelligent and blah blah blah. Yeah, well she
she looked like she was Epstein's hand puppet, is what
she looked like. Epstein just put his hand right up
her butt and said, say what I tell you to do,
(06:14):
dumb dumb, This is your job, dumb dumb, say what
I tell you to say. But finally, uh, this whole idea, Jonathan,
that what we saw was completely proper, and that that
that she is above reproach is so outlandish and outrageous.
(06:36):
Hakeem Jeffries needs to we need to bring back shame.
I don't know what's wrong with Hakeem Jeffries. His brain
seems to be broken. But if but this is where
we're at in America. The left is so lunatic fringe.
Now you've got people like Mark Kelly yesterday coming out
with it was almost on like a brainwashing tape, trying
to get National Guards troops to defy orders and not illegals.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Yeah, well, I got one question from Mark Kelly. If
you are if you need to as a member of
the military, if you obviously can, and you should, and
it's written and it is policy, you do not follow
illegal orders. So Mark Kelly, I got one question for you.
What is the illegal order? What was the illegal order? You?
Certainly the reason you bring this up is because Donald
(07:24):
Trump has asked our military to follow illegal orders. So
what were those orders or what is the order that
you are concerned about that you think that he's going
to continue to use the military to overreach. And I'm
not your constituent. I don't have your phone number, so
I can't text you and ask you this, But as
an American citizen, I'd like to know that the commander
(07:46):
in chief is issuing illegal orders to our military. That
will be something the American people should know.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
I just looked up this morning, and thankfully this is
coming from one of the liberal universities that the Libs
love do Duke Duke University. The final illegal order that
has been given by a president. Now, this was written
in twenty eighteen, so I'll point that out. There could
have been something from Trump. President Barack Obama's authorization of
(08:18):
a swap of five Taliban prisoners for Sergeant bo Bergdal,
which involved military personnel, was found by the General Accountability
Office to be an illegal order, and all military personnel
involved could have been court martialed for doing this.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Wow, so Obama brought you that.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
And there are some that contend, though it was never
pressed that baracks what they're calling illegal drone war where
he never sought any guidance from Congress and killed literally
thousands of people far more than we're killing right now
from Venezuela on the.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Boats, including an American citizen. Did he kill an American citizen?
I know that.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
I know that when Joe Biden tried to strike back,
he ended up killing a whole bunch of US AID workers.
That was that was lovely awkward, very awkward.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Yeah, and he probably said we got him. Know, you've
freaking got some guy from Ohio. Yeah, you killed his family, Joe.
But anyway, Uh, that was the last illegal order given
by a president was Barack Obama. And I don't remember
Mark Kelly or any of the other geniuses that were
involved yesterday making their big bold brainwashing speech of you
(09:36):
can you can ignore illegal orders, you must ignore illegal orders.
I don't remember them saying boo about Obama.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
So certainly now that it passed through the Senate, and
you know, Fune said that after Johnson made his plea
that they go back and change a couple of things
that he went out of his way to describe yesterday
and even brought in ross Perote chart so you can
put it up there for you. So he was imploring
(10:05):
the Senate to make these changes. Lune said, no, We've
already talked to the attorneys. We think we're good here,
so let's proceed. Proceed, and they proceeded. Okay, now it
goes to Trump's desk. What has it been transferred yet
from the through Congress and heads to the It says, well,
breaking news.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
The Senate receives the Epstein bill, and now it's going
to head to the Trump's desk, so it'll probably be
signed today. It doesn't it doesn't matter. There's really nothing
left to say in there.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
It would appear.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
But you know, Jonathan and my research about the last
illegal order, I found something very interesting because we talked
about it, maybe I don't know, four or five months ago,
I guess when this whole idea of bringing out the
National Guard and people were saying it's an illegal order
and blah blah blah. And then we talked about the
bold step that Lincoln took to suspend Habeas Corpus and
(10:57):
how that led to a fight with several Supreme Court
justices and blah blah blah blah blah. What I did
not know is that we have had lunatic judges in
America for many, many years. And I'm going to take
you to the story of a man named Lambdon Milligan.
Now I don't know Lambdon Milligan. I hadn't heard of
(11:18):
Lambdon Milligan until this morning. But Lambdon Milligan from Indiana, Huntington,
Indiana is a left leaning lunatic who hates the Union
and started a group of people. What he actually had
a cool name for his group. I'm trying to find
(11:40):
his name again. It was it was a cool name
for a group anyway. But they hate the Union and
they want to end the war. They want to kill
Union soldiers and they and they want to not only
kill Union soldiers, they want to free the Confederate prisoners
of war. So that's their plan. How can we murder
Union souls? Now that gets exposed, it's not one of
(12:04):
those things that's debatable. There's writing. It's in his handwriting.
You're writing to your group. Here's the plan's call to action. Yes,
it was called the Sons of liberty, the sons of liberty.
We're going to murder about forty Union soldiers and then
(12:24):
we're going to free about one hundred Confederate soldiers. That's
the plan. He gets caught now because of the suspension
of habeas corpus at that time, we're not going to
take him to a civilian court. We're going to take
him to a military tribunal. He is found guilty, obviously,
(12:45):
he is then sentenced to death. In the interim before
the death is executed, the war ends, everything is restored, right.
They then say, well, we've got lawyers who say he
should have never been convicted in a military tribunal as
(13:06):
a civilian. They sue, They win, so he is free
to go back home. So again I'm plotting to murder
US service members, no penalty. Then mister Milligan doubles down.
Mister Milligan then launches a lawsuit against the federal government,
(13:31):
suing them for his incarceration because he wanted to murder
military members.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
He was illegally arrested, entertained.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
He wins the case.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Wow, during a time of war. He wins that case.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
They presented again the military or the lawyers for the
United States government brought his handwriting and said, is this
not your handwriting? Yes, we are going to shoot them
and behead them. That's your plan, yes, And you're saying
you shouldn't be held accountable for that. I didn't do it,
(14:04):
but that was the plan that we stopped because we
suspended habeas corpus because in Indiana they would have never
prosecuted you for this right correct, well, and because we
have left leaning lunatic judges all the way back to
eighteen sixty six. He wins his lawsuit and then he
(14:25):
goes on and practices law in Indiana for another thirty
years and he dies at the ripe old age of
eighty seven, at eighteen ninety nine.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
That is an amazing story.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
So it's not just us who are going what the
flip is happening with the legal system in America?
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Oh my gosh. Okay, so we will get the Epstein.
And now after we have the Epstein files, what happens now?
They call the DOJ, and the THEJ just backs it
all up and dumps it all off right there at
the White House. What's the next proceeding here? Do we know?
Speaker 3 (14:55):
I think we're in uncharted territories.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
I mean, what's his name?
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Thomas Massey apparently put into the bill that everybody voted
on a clause that gives Pam Bondi the right to
remove anybody's name. Yes, why would he put that in
there when he's mister Trump, mister Transparency's screaming for it.
We got to release this information as it is now. Yeah,
(15:19):
except let me put this into the bill so nobody
knows about it. I don't know what hell Thomas Massey's doing.
Does Thomas Massey suddenly have a coach? And again, the
whole idea of why Trump was not for this is
because there, as he said, going to be many, many
families that are going to be ruined by this that
have nothing to do with anything perverted or ugly or
(15:40):
anything like that. And many of them are actually victims
of Epstein. But they're gonna have their names dragged out
into the mud if you just release all these files unfiltered.
And the Democrats, in a unified voice said, fhem, let's
kill them all. And now we got Republicans who are saying, okay,
you know what, we'll do it too, and Trump is saying,
(16:00):
let it ride. Then let it ride if you all
want to let it ride. Let it ride. I want
to get back to actually things that'll help the country.
And if, unfortunately, if the Democrats are blood thirsty and
want to take out one hundred families and destroy them,
I guess that is a price that the America is
willing to pay. But we're going to do it because
we're not going to hold up the progress.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
What a huge announcement. It came down yesterday live in
the Oval Office with the Crown prints almost a trillion
dollar and he committed the du A Trigon after the
six hundred and fifty million trillion dollar investment in the US. Yeah. Wow.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
You know when people talk about affordability and stuff of that,
and I get it. I mean it's under Joe Biden,
the affordability thanks to inflation when there is no affordability.
So Trump can't get prices to actually go lower than
they really are. The only thing Trump can do really
(16:53):
is slow the rate of inflation, which they've done. It's
just like about three percent.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
I think right now.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
It's coming even lower. But he's trying to grow us
out of it, meaning wages for American workers will go
up and the money in your pocket beginning next year,
will go up. Now, will it be enough before the midterms,
I don't know. But that's what the big beautiful bill
is all about, which will be instituted beginning in.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
January, and it's going to take a little while after.
We continue to grow the economy. As he demonstrated yesterday,
Now you've got to let the free market system work
because at some point you're going to have to see
the markets start to go back to it supply and
demand a competition in the marketplace to bring prices down.
And it's funny. I'm reminded of a conversation I have
with a person who works at I don't want to
(17:42):
say what she does for a living. Let's say she
works at one of those spa places. Okay, so she
provides personal service, and she was complaining about the high
cost of everything, grocery store prices and the like. And
I said, you know, after we came out of COVID,
a lot of things that went up, like automobile costs.
(18:03):
By the way, there was a problem there with the
supply chain. There were a lot of different things going
on at the same time. But what happened you'll find out.
We've read about this. Maybe I could be wrong. I've
only read about it. We're automobile dealerships, for instance, used
to have like fifteen twenty salespeople. They now got half
of that. But then they're not worried about the inventory
as much because now they've already reconditioned the market with
(18:26):
the cost of the car is more, they're making more
money per car. They don't have to have as many
people on the payroll, so they cut down their business expense.
And this is the new policy, this is the new
way that, this is the mo for car dealers. Now,
that may be unfair, that may not be right if
you work at a car dealership. And I insulted you,
I'm sorry, that's not what my attition was. The whole
point was. And I said to her, when we see
(18:48):
things finally start to come back down, after this settles,
then that's when you're finally going to get some relief
from the initial problem with the inflation, COVID supply chain,
the compounding problems there. And she said in the conversation, well,
you're right, people got used to pay them more. I'm
never bringing my prices down now because I can charge
(19:08):
two hundred dollars for a haircut and sell and whatever
it is she does, whereas before I was only getting
one hundred and fifty and I'm like, see, you're the problem.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Well no, no, she's not the problem. The free market
needs to fix it, and the free market will fix it,
because if I'm somebody who wants to compete with her,
I'll charge one hundred and seventy five instead of two hundred,
and then somebody else will come along in charge one forty,
and then somebody will come along in charge ninety, and
somebody will charge ten. I mean, you can still go
to like Supercuts and get like a twelve dollars haircut
(19:38):
right now, but it.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Will take a while after that turnal round and you
look at the it's going to be an extra while
because you also have, like they announced yesterday and they
were talking about in Greenville, South Carolina, the turbine plant there.
When you start building out these facilities and you're hiring
more people, and they're hiring a lot of people in
that particular job in Greenville, when you're hiring more people,
(19:59):
is going to take longer to get facility built. You
will have construction jobs go up immediately because now you've
got to get the plant fixed. But now you're going
to get the workers in. So it will take a
while to get all of that momentum from the trillions
he's bringing in, in particular like yesterday from Saudi Arabia.
So it's going to take a while for the market
to start settling back in as it will do in
the private sector, and it'll be a supplying demand of
(20:21):
the market. Competition and all those things will come back
into play. But it ain't going to happen overnight.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Well, again, the goal is with the tax cuts that
come with the big beautiful bill. I know that as
just an individual you probably won't feel those until twenty
twenty seven when you file your tax return. But businesses
who file quarterly earnings and they pay their taxes quarterly,
(20:50):
they should start reaping huge benefits in like April, and
so with that happening in April, usually what would happen
with a business is when they find themselves cash heavy,
they do several things. One they might return if it's
a publicly traded company, they'll buy backstock, or they'll their
(21:12):
stock prices will skyrocket, which is nice. Or oftentimes they'll
look at it as an opportunity to invest in their business.
And grow market share, so they're going to hire more people,
and they'll also sometimes give bonuses to employees for helping
them achieve great earnings. That's called trickle down economics by
the Democrats, but that's just called great business by people
(21:34):
who are capitalists. And so we should start seeing now
we're cutting it very close because November is the midterms.
We're hopefully going to see in late April early May.
Throughout the summer the economy really starting to heal as
these companies are finding themselves with massive discounts on their
(21:55):
tax bills. And as that happens, then the economy will
have more money going into it in a way where
it's not just going to drive up inflation, because the
more money that goes into the economy, the inflation will
go up. But if they can keep that inflation kind
of cool while people find affordability coming, meaning it doesn't
(22:16):
matter if a house is four hundred thousand dollars if
you know I'm making four hundred thousand dollars a year,
if I'm making eighty thousand dollars a year, a four
hundred thousand dollars house might be aspirational. But if I
double my salary, then all of a sudden, we don't
have a cost problem. And that's kind of where we're
up against a clock, because if it doesn't fix itself
(22:39):
before the end of October, and that's when people start
early voting, then we're going to be in a bad
way because if Trump loses the House and or the Senate,
you can then just look at everything being blocked for
the last two years and nothing really being able to
get done.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Very true now here in the state of South Carolinas.
Anticipated outside of the Aggressive building today it was a
standing line of people trying to get into standing room
only for a subcommittee hearing that would have brought the
brought us to one of the if not the most
restrictive state, one of the most restrictive states for abortions.
(23:15):
We already are one of the most but not the
most restrictive. Now. Richard Cash, Republican out of the Upstate,
if I remember correctly, was the one who pretty much
has been pushing for this and was able to bring
it to a subcommittee. But he lost support even from
some Republicans yesterday as it was deemed that his presentation
(23:36):
was a little too restrictive and a little too punitive
for persons like mothers, and then created problems for people
like doctors or hospital staff or the like. Even have
a conversation about an abortion of being available or abortioned
the word abortion on either side, you could find yourself
in a position where you would have to answer to
(23:58):
this law. It did not get enough votes in the
subcommittee to be able to advance to the floor, and
I for one, I'm kind of glad. We spent a
lot of time batting it back and forth in different
subcommittee hearings of Houses Senate, coming up with different plans
for the six week abortion bill. I'm happy, not elated,
but I'm happy we're able to get that one through.
(24:19):
But you know, it seems like we were wasting a
lot of General Assembly time working on this one issue
when we could have been doing a lot of other things.
And there are a lot of there are a lot
of needs that the state needs to have addressed that's coming.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Here well, and when you look at abortion, you know,
I know, people say that we're one of the most restrictive.
We're actually what's called a Tier two state, So we're
one of four states South Carolina, Iowa, Georgia, and Florida
are Tier two abortion restriction states, the ones that are
the most restrictive. That's Tier one states. That's there's twelve
(24:53):
and that's Alabama, Arkansas, Idaho, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Misissippi, Oklahoma,
South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, and West virgin and that one.
They will only allow an abortion to save the life
of a pregnant woman. If it's not explicitly to save
their life. I don't care if you're a weak pregnant
you're not getting the abortion in those states. South Carolina
(25:14):
we've got if we can detect heart rate activity, that's
usually around six weeks. So that's why we're a Tier two.
Had this bill actually gone into law, amazingly, then would
they would have to create a new tier because we'd
be the only state in the country that was not
only we're not doing it for any reason except to
(25:36):
save the life of a mother, but if a person
gets an abortion, she herself will go to prison. Which
is why so many pro life people, including myself, said
I can't tolerate this. You know, when you look at
the data that shows that over sixty percent of people
who get an abortion say they felt pressured to get
(25:58):
the abortion. Usually it's younger people, it's their parents, it's educators,
it's authority figures in their lives who they probably should
have listened to earlier, else they will know not to
find yourself in this situation. But once you're in that situation,
when they're saying the best route, the only route for
you right now is to get an abortion, or else
you can't live in my house. As your father, I'm
(26:20):
telling you, you either kill that kid or you're out
of my house. Well, they feel pressure today, so it's
not really their pro choice. These people that are forcing
him into it are pro death. And I don't want
to make the victim who had to make that hard
choice to get an abortion, or it's not even a
hard choice, was felt forced into the abortion. To then
(26:41):
compound the misery by giving them a six month prison
sentence or something that seems insane. And I mean, I'm
sure that the man has a good heart for the
Lord and all that other stuff, but that bill was
ridiculous and I'm glad that it's not gonna Well, he
says he's going to try to bring it back up,
but you better come up with a new way of
writing it, because that way ain't going to fly in
(27:03):
South Carolina.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
And it's interesting you bring up the fact that a
lot of them feel pressure, and it's you. The way
the law is written. Now, if I agree to something,
if I start a contract under duress, that within itself
just being under duress to sign it is against the
law to put me in a position like that. So
you can imagine the kind of conversations you would have
(27:25):
between men and women. Yeah, the woman wants to have
the baby, the guide does not. Yeah, this is that's
that's ugly or could be.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Yeah, and then if you end up sending everybody to
prison that I mean, this is the It's not the
right way. It's not the right way.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
No, it's not. And as we learned just by reading
the paper every day, if you send somebody to the
prison in South Carolina, it's pretty much becoming a death sentence. Hello, Hello,
somebody to help us with our prison system. Maybe we'll
get into that soon.
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