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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show. Jonathan Rush, are
you affirming that you think President Trump.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Is a fascist?
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Kelly Nash? That's okay.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
You just say yes, okay. It's easier than explaining a pediment.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Jonathan and Kelly Show, Fascist in the communist meeting in
the Oval Office?
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Is that a beginning of a Joke's.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
What it sounds like. I don't know. Hey, this is
Jonathan Russell's Kelly Nash. It's Monday, the twenty fourth of November,
and we have a special guest on the J and
K Super Secret Double Probationary Hotline, Kelly Nash. Welcome on
the phone. US Congressman and gubernatorial hopeful Ralph Norman. Good morning, sir, Hey.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Good morning, good morning. Glad to be with y'all.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Well, I'm telling you, trying to read the news out
of DC these days is like trying to drink out
of a fire hydrant. We have all kind of craziness
going on, and I wanted to get your take on
exactly what is going to happen here with our House
members and or other highly appointed government officials who seemingly
are calling for an insurrection that Donald Trump wants to
hang them. Have we already built the scaffolding up in
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DC for the big day? What do we do it?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I tell you one thing. We need consequences. We need
people held accountable. When you have six sitting members of
Congress who took an oath to uphold and defend the
Constitution of the United States saying to disobey the presidential orders,
when you've got ICE agents being assaulted, it's up eight
hundred percent in different areas. I mean, it's it's and
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I see it on the House floor. They're a radical group,
They're funded, they are taking a stance now that we're
going to take back power, regardless of what it takes,
legal or not legally. So the American people deserve better,
and I think it's up to Republicans to draw line
and not to retreat from it. You can't win with
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these people by, you know, by retreating. And you know,
I think New Jersey and Virginia were anomalies they were
blue states anyway on the elections of that took place there.
But midterms are all important, and I think President Trump
understands that, and I think we'll have things that I
hope that the voters will listen to we're.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Talking with Congressman Ralph Norman, and it does seem shocking
to me that you had brought forth last week a
censure vote, and that seemed like a no brainer for
Plasket from the Virgin Islands, who was texting with Jeffrey
Epstein during the congressional hearing and basically, in my estimation,
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became Epstein's puppet, like he put his hand up her
butt and said say what I say, do what as
I do, and she did what he told her to
do in order to try to make Donald Trump look bad.
And not only could you couldn't even get a censure
passed on that right after you had a unanimous vote
except for one to release the Epstein files. How could
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Congress be that divided about that?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Well, it shouldn't be. I mean, transparency is what the
Democrats said they wanted. They got everything they wanted. And
now to the defense that Plastic put up on the
House floor as she and Jamie Raskins was pathetic. I
mean to say that he was a normal constituent, that
she takes numerous phone calls. All the Sensor did was
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require her to get to the Ethics commit Committee to
investigate her and to be taken off her Intel Committee.
Intel committee gets information that regular congressmen do not get,
and here she is with a convicted pedophile in twenty
eighteen in Epstein, she was taking her whole five minutes
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of questioning to relay the information sent by Epstein or
witnesses that would make President Trump look bad. There is
absolutely no excuse why she shouldn't have gotten to censor.
And you had three Republicans vote President. You had three
Republicans vote no, and you had I think it was
four that didn't show up. Unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
You know, I've watched a lot of the Sunday shows
this past weekend, and the Democrats seem to be rather
gleeful in that polling on the economy is not going
in the President's direction. And now they get an opportunity
to shut down the government again at the end of January,
and they they're saying that, you guys don't have a choice.
You're going to have to go ahead and put the
COVID funding back into ACA and extend the subsidies and
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maybe even come up with more subsidies. They're very excited
about it.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Well, the thing about it, Jonathan and Kelly, you know,
the one point five trillion that they were asking to
basically spend on illegals, getting government, getting our tax money
through Medicaid, Medicare, all the other government programs is a
is a disaster and this blasphem us they're even doing that.
It's money that we clawed back through reconciliation and for
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them to want to spend it and give it to
their UH to punt to, you know, to fund the
radio programs and the stations that do not promote capitalism,
do not promote this country is again it's it's unbelievable.
But no, we're going to stick to our guns. Mike
Josh has done a good job. And if they shut
it down, let them shut it down, because we'll go
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through it again. And there's no way they're going to
sustain putting the healthcare Cristis, which it is. Premiums are
going up, but that's to Obamacare, and you don't extend
the substance to illegals. You just don't do that. So
we'll see how it plays out. Next week is going
to be interesting, but I think we're gonna come up
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with a plan. The President put it out this morning,
put up with it, come up with a plan that
makes sense, patient centered, let the patient deal directly with
their doctor and not going through insurance companies. All the
aboves on the table, but you can't do it under
a threat that the Democrats are going to do what
they did before, which you shut the government down.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Talking with Congressman Ralph Norman and you know, I guess
it was over the weekend that we all learned about
the latest scam out of Minnesota, where you've got at
least one some alum woman has now been arrested. I'm
twenty eight year old who had worked out a scam
with some doctor, a Somalian doctor in Minnesota, to have
Somalian residents in Minnesota come and bring their childs who
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don't have autism get an autistic diagnosis in order to
receive up to fifteen hundred dollars a month. They kept
to keep a portion of that money and then the
rest of it was sent to Somalia. Somalia, on average
it gets one point seven billion dollars a year from
outside of the country, which is more than their entire
budget for inside the country, and a large portion of
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that money goes to fund Al Shabab, whose number one
job it is is to kill Christians. And they don't
just kill them in Somalia. They go to Kenya and
they target universities and they have suicide bombers and all that.
And it turns out now that the American taxpayer, whether
it's through the Autism Fund or it was through the
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Feed the Children Fund where they stole hundreds of millions
of dollars, or it was through I mean, there's just
numerous occasions where this small group of Somalians up in
Minnesota or sending our tax dollars illegally stealing them from
us and then sending them to fund terrorism in Somalia.
And they're all represented by Ilhan Omar. Is there anything
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that we can do as Americans or the Congress can do,
because she was very cocky Sunday when Donald Trump said
I'm going to remove the temporary protective status on Somalians,
and she said, well, that's great. There's only seven hundred
of them, so most of us. You've already given us
the status of being a citizen here. Sucker, there's nothing
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you can do now, Sucker. And I'm a congresswoman, Sucker.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Well, Omar shouldn't be in Congress anyway, I mean, she's
got ethics violations that over the years that have basically
been covered up. No, they're in your face, and you
know the amount of and what's disturbing all of the
country is we're Christian based country. That's what our constitution
was based on. Christianity, and it's getting It's not just
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in foreign countries that are being persecuted. This group omar AOC,
that Crooud will wheta Shale, will go to no ends
to further their calls, which is anti American. And you
don't hear anything any outrage coming about the illegality of
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the Somolians who took advantage and money that should have
gone to children with special needs. But it's a new
day in this country. We've got to wake up to
the fact that we're in a fight and we've got
to take it to them and it needs to be consequences,
and I think President Trump will do that. But everyday, Americans,
all of us, the four hundred and thirty five members
in Congress, the hundred senators, this did a wake up
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call and we've got to meet the challenge this time.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
You know, over the weekend, had an opportunity to talk
to my dad, he's ninety one years old, retired. Every
year we go through and make sure that he has
the best Medicare plan he signed up for when of
course he has his Plan B and his Plan D,
and then we pick out a metagap plan to help
him out to try to make sure he can budget
for his expenses for his health care. But I know
this year in particular, there are going to be increases
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with Plan B in particular. And you look at the
amount of money that with these people are having to
come out of pocket in their retirement years, and many
of them are living on Social Security and the like
without a whole lot of savings. There ought to be
like a wheelchair outrage rolling down the street and protests
because we are wasting so much money on people who
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just got here. When you have an entire generation many
call the Greatest Generation that are retirement now and having
to try to find a way to live on their
retirement money from nineteen seventy nine and the year twenty
twenty five, and on top of that, take an increase
in their Plan B. It would seem like we'd be
trying to find ways to make sure these people are
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comfortable as possible and decreasing their premiums.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
That's exactly right. And look at the income thresholds, some
as high as four hundred thousand. If they make four
hundred thousand, a husband and wife make the combined income,
they get a check from the government. Does eye of
that fair? It's not. And again it's and that's just
one element of this whole the corruption that exists. And
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we saw it with Smiley, but how many other places
are we missing? Elon must did this country a tremendous
service by identifying what he identified as waste, fraud and abuse,
and it started off with USAID. And you noticed the
press didn't covering the things that were found. I mean,
the walls that were built in Libya, the shows that
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were going on on Sesame Street in a rock, just
pure waste of money. We've got to get back to that,
and I hope next week we have our caucus, we
will have a plan to put some accountability, to condemn
the smilings and whoever let them get by with that,
and make sure the guardrails in place that doesn't happen
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again in that particular case, but in so many other
cases where there's a waste for AWD abuse.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
You've certainly heard a lot of from the Republicans over
the weekend regarding this transition that they want to make
away from the Affordable Care Act. Is it feasible that
we're going to be able to end it and move
on to something new, or are we going to have
a long transition period where we're going to have to
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subsidize it, or how do you see this thing playing out?
Not what do you want to see happen, how do
you think it will happen.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
I think what's going to happen. You'll have a middle
road that's taken. I think some of the subsidies should
have expired at the end of this year, you se
a portion of them stay in place. I think you'll
see hopefully the income levels drop, you know, from the
four hundred thousand down to those who truly need it.
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And I think you'll see some efforts to get get
it back to where HSA accounts the businesses can set
those up where you know, patients have more control over
the doctor. I've had doctors tell me that not only
are they not going into the profession, they can't even
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understand where the money is coming from from an insurance company.
If you read the statement that billing that the big
hospitals have. Now no one understands and it's the doctors
can understand it. The patient definitely is not going to
understand it. But I've got a lady who works with me,
single sixty five premiums jumping to a thousand a month
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and she can't afford it, and she's you know, it's ludicrous.
But yeah, we'll have a media, we'll have something urgent
has passed. It's better than what we have. But is
it a catch all? Is the end all for the
bad policy of vomitcare note? But it'll be put back
on a path, that is, it will be sustained.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I think you know you mentioned Elon Musk committed to
going what a tremendous favor he did for the US,
But I larned just this morning. I didn't know this.
On MSNBC, they were quite joyous over they're throwing a parade.
I believe that the DOGE office has beneficially closed. Can
you update us on where we are with that. Have
we taken the responsibilities and put them back under other
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federal bureaucracy agency heads?
Speaker 2 (13:22):
No? From what I hear, you know we had on
the recisions we had such you know, we got to
be in past, wanted to be in three of B
and four on the pocket recisions that came up after that,
it was struggling to get anything passed and refunded, to
refunded to the people. That's what is shocking, I think,
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just from I mean the the negative publicity that Elon
Musk received and the things that he found. The American
people ought to be happy, but the media portrays of those,
you know, something bad. It's not the things that I
think will come back up. And it's up to us
to bring us up, for the conservatives to highlight it
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and do something about it and make it from its
center stage. But every dollar I've learned in DC has
got an advocate for it, and it doesn't. You can't,
you can't take it away easily. But it's got to
be done.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Congressman Ralph Norman Any thoughts on soon to be former
coworker Marjorie Taylor Green announcing her resignation.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Now, it's disappointed that she's quitting. It just makes our
then majority even thinner. I knew she and President Trump
had gotten on the opposite sides, and I don't know
what her motives are. I don't know why she's doing
what she's doing. She was, if you remember, she was
the biggest advocate. She was on the campaign trail with him,
and she's been you know, all of a sudden, everything's
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bad about what President Trump's doing, and he had no
other choice than to call her out, which I'm glad
he did. But I mean, she's like Mark Green. She's
leaving and I'm sure we have another election, a special
election to replace her, but she's in a red district.
It's going to be a Republican, but the time that
it's going to take is concerning.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Well, I know we have limited time with you, and
as always, I could ask you another twenty or thirty
questions because the persons that are plugged in and staying
in tone with the news, and I realized that's not
an overwhelming percentage of the American electorate, but it is
a growing number hopefully, are very concerned about a lot
of issues coming down though. You're one of the biggest fighters.
Who appreciate you fighting in DC, and I need to
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ask you at least one question as you move towards
your gubernatorial hopeful campaign. You've been up and down it
all over the state of South Carolina, and over the
weekend I thought about you. I was just driving down
Gervay Street and I thought, if I were the governor
of the state of South Carolina, I'd be embarrassed to
have my friends come here because it's like a damn
dirt road over there.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Well, the secondary Rose, I've traveled them all across South
Carolina and it's like a bombed out UH terminal, you know,
runways for airplanes. I mean you're dodging potholes. They only
I mean the fact that we don't put money into
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our infrastructure, We're gonna pay a price. Under a Norman governorship.
That's gonna be a top parity along with getting the
corruption out. There will be no more finding a billion
dollars at the end of the year and letting politicians
spend it. So we got we gotta work cut out.
But it's also we got opportunities to do some great things.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Well, we appreciate your time. We'll be hearing more from
you as we get closer to that election, and we'll
have more opportunities to hear your debating the like, and
see you on the road on the trail talking to
South Carolinians. Thank you for your time in d C.
And look forward to seeing you back in the Parlemental
States soon.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Well and joy being on your present.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Thank you, Thanks again, Congressman. We appreciate the phone call.
I want to go back to the Oval Office meeting. Okay,
Zoe run and Donald Trump, the fascist and the communists.
So obviously the communist doesn't believe that Donald Trump is
Hitler because if you got that close to him, it
would be demand at the bond you to actually kill Hitler,
wouldn't it. Or if you're a communist, you wouldn't mind
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it so much, would you? Oh, you wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
I mean, it's really a weird meeting that took place
because depending on how you want to look at that,
you could take anything you want away from that meeting.
So there are some people who are disgusted by Donald
Trump and his apparent you know one eighty on Zorhan
that he's now willing to work with him, and you
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know he said, I if he if he gets elected,
I'm not going to fund him. I'm going to you know,
he needs to beg blah blah blah. Then there's other
people who you know, pro mom, Donnie who are like,
I can't believe you looked like you were like licking
Donald Trump's boots. You looked like a schoolboy down there
just trying to get, you know, permission from dad to
do stuff because you're standing and he's sitting. But then
there's other people who would say troll, that Trump is
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trolling everybody in New York. I mean, there's just a
number of different ways to try try to read what
you saw on Friday, And I guess it doesn't really
matter what you think you saw. What will what plays
out over the next few months, starting in January with
his you know, swearing in, that will be what's really important.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Yeah, I mean, as much as you want to see
New York falter under the leadership of the mayor, I mean,
if you're an American, you really can't cheer against watching
what was the capital of capitalism certainly is going to
be moving out now, I believe, but you can't just
cheer that entire city to falter and fall down. And
what will be the escape from New York three with
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Snake Bliskin.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Well, you know, I grew up in that area, and
I remember the nineteen seventies very well as a child
going to New York and it was a sessed pool.
It's one of the hell holes that Donald Trump would
have talked about, even though he was living there as well.
I can remember the prostitution was so rampant in the
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middle of the broad daylight. I mean, my parents took
me to what they, I guess thought was going to
be a fun day and I was probably like six
or seven years old, but I was scarred by it
because the prostitutes in the middle of the day were
so aggressive. They were trying to physically pull my father
into like an alley, Oh my gosh, basically to rob him.
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I don't know if I don't know if he would
have gotten the upside of that, but he would have
been not a lot of money. So my mother and
my father were fighting hookers in you know, the Times
Square district, and I'm like a six year old crying.
But you know, then in the eighties, very similar it was.
I moved into New York City in nineteen ninety six,
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and you know, not over exaggerating, regularly, probably once every
ten days or so, would have to step over either
someone who was dead or about to be dead blocking
my door in order to get into my apartment due
to the massive drug overdoses that were happening. And it
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wasn't until Giuliani got in. I think that was ninety
eight that he took over. Maybe it was earlier, but
whenever he took over, they started the broken window policies.
They changed all the policing in New York City, cleaned
up and had a nice, I want to say, what
fifteen twenty year run. They had a nice run until
probably the middle of the teens. This year, you know,
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twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, it really started getting bad again.
By twenty twenty it was back to becoming assessed pool
and what we see with mom Donnie's policies. Sure, I
understand that he needs Kathy Hokeel to approve a lot
of what he's talking about. So he's not going to
get the corporate rate tax increase. He's not going to get.
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He's also agreed to keep the police Commissioner on because
that was one of his campaign slogans was I'm going
to get rid of her. We're going to just make
the police crazy again. But if he was to implement it,
we could get it back to like nineteen seventy seven,
Bronx is burning. And that's a very famous scene from
a Monday night baseball game where the Yankees aerial shot
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on ABC and you could see roughly four miles of
the Bronx on fire. Just legit on fires like a
wild It's like the fires in California and the Palace Aides,
but that's actually in a forest. These were apartment buildings
filled with hundreds of people all on fire, literally thousands
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of people dying during a Monday night baseball game. And
then that's when you got the mayor of New York
City sending a letter to Gerald Ford, the President, and
the famous New York Post response was Ford tells New
York go to hell, because we were We're not going
to send you another bailout. Because that's how New York
City had been operating for a decade or more, was
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they kept needing federal bailouts, and Ford said, I'm not
doing it. You can go to hell. We're not doing it.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
I think it was like nineteen eighty when I first
went to New York. And you're right, the most stark
comparison of the haves and have nots, And I wonder
if this is what Mexico city looks like because you
literally would see a stretch limo pull up in front
of what was an incredible building, one of the office buildings,
and you would you watch guys get out of that limo,
or at least one head guy certainly, and maybe a
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couple of assistants, and they're walking within ten feet of
a guy who you really, I would really bet that
that dude laying there on the concrete is dead. Yes,
that's and it was such a stark comparison. And although
coming from the South, you had heard about these things
and read about them and maybe seeing some pictures and newspapers,
or maybe you picked up a little bit on television,
but you stand on the sidewalk in New York City
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and actually see that play out in person, you don't
realize at that time how much like Mexico City it
probably was. It was the land of the haves and
the have nots. And then I only went back to
New York like three or four times afterwards, And you're right,
during the Giuliana years, it was certainly more enjoyable and
you felt more at ease going into the city. But
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you know, at the same time, I do remember I
think it was my first trip to New York when
I rented a car on a Sunday morning, because I
looked out of my hotel room, there's no traffic, like,
this is perfect for me. I can drive in this
because previous it was just like teaming with people. I
certainly didn't want to get in a car or drive
a car, but I made it the block before I
got pulled over from making a right on red. And
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as outraged as I was that in New York City,
the guy's like, where you from? Like South Carolina. He's like, yeah,
there's no right on red in New York City. I'm
like what. He pulled out his ticket, but you don't
write me a ticket for making a right on red.
There's a prostitute right over there, and I've never actually
seen one in person. I've seen it on television. I
think that's a drug deal going down right there. But
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you're going to give me a ticket for a right
on red. And at that point he caught that New
York City attitude with me, and I'm like, I better
shut the hell up before I end up in jail.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Well, I mean literally, I mean there was an open
policy that they were looking for people to ticket because
that's how they raised money. There's no money in busting
a prostitute. There's no money even in the drug dealers.
The drug dealers would just cry poverty and say I'll
sit and jail then and then so then it became
a you know, a negative expense for the City of
New York to drail to jail a drug dealer. So
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they would instead say, okay, well you just try to
keep it, try to keep it copasetic, keep your hooking
to a minimum, which meant legitimately in Times Square forty
second Street at that time was nothing but pornos, shops,
peep booths, and prostitutes and drug dealers. That's all it was.
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And I can remember going there in nineteen eighty three
with my friend Pete Ash. We took the train in
that day and Pete and I, you know, we were
trying to remain calm and cool, collected, acting like we
belonged there. You know, don't look up at the skyscrapers,
don't let anybody see that you're shocked by any of this, right,
And I mean, but I for whatever reason, because it
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happened to me all the time after that, but I
still remember that day just being somewhat overwhelmed by the
amount of people that when you walk by them, they're like,
what you need, man, you need pills? What you need
you need? You need some weed, you need some heroin,
you need some dust. What you're looking for, bro? And
it's it's whites, blacks, Latinos, Native Americans. They're all offering
you anything you want right now. You need girls, you
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need boys. What you're looking for? What are you looking for?
You got fifty bucks. You can have whatever you want
for fifty dollars.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
I'm trying to remember the record rep's name. In New York,
I visited and we were just doing some stuff. He
was showing me around the city and we got off
of the subway and got back up on the street level,
and he was genuinely pissed. Don't you ever do that
to me again? Yeah, don't do that.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Don't look at a building.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
And I'm like, what he said, you do not make
eye contact in the subway. You're going to get us killed.
That's that's true too. You don't know which person's going
to kill you. Okay, brother, you should have told me
that before we went down.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
I mean, you know, you look in Chicago, you got
over the weekend, you had a woman set on fire
on the subway, probably because she made eye contact and
the guy had been arrested. Originally they said forty four times.
Now it's seventy three times. And you know, that's the
way it is in these big cities now, they just
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are revolving. And that's the way it was in the
sixties and the seventies and the eighties in New York.
And that was the fears that Mam Donnie was going
to bring the good old days back. But I mean
just on the financial tip. You know, he's one of
his pledges is to make New York affordable again by
putting a rent freeze in place. The rent freeze is
what drives up the prices. And I don't know how
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many times we have to explain this to people, but
when you say that you cannot charge more than X
amount of dollars for whatever, that does not stabilize it.
That just drives the other ones through the roof. So
when I'm locked in at my rate, that okay, so
didn't never leave. I'm never leaving. And then when I die,
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I literally leave it to my nephew or my grandchild
or something. So You've got people living in New York
City that are paying three hundred dollars a month rents
right now. So when the other apartment comes available, rather
than going for three or four thousand dollars a month,
which you know for New York would seem like a
reasonable price, is going for fourteen thousand. So now because
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they got the guy who owns the building has to
get his money somehow. He's not going to just run
a for lost business.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
And I'm sure there'll be situations like much like anywhere
in the US, where you have like hud money or
you got it, a state or a city that provides
housing moneyes and they allow you a certain amount and
then you go to look at a place that's more
than that, so then you pay the owner under the
table in cash. Yes, so now you've got people that
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are paying what would be the regular rent price, but
they're actually put both of you in jeopardy. The States
supposedly will prosecute you for that, but how in the
world would they ever find out because the person who's
in the system is never going to admit to it
because they don't want to get kicked out of the system.
That's right, and the landlord's got to figure out a
way to make enough money to pay the taxes around here. Yes,
so you put them both in a position where you
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got to make them do an undertake of the deal
like that.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Yeah, it's a very bad plan that Mam Donnie has,
And again a lot of it depends on Kathy Hokeel
and even what the federal government is willing to tolerate.
So hopefully he's not going to get away with most
of it. And I think at the end of the day, hopefully,
hopefully Mam Donnie turns out to be a dog with
a big bark and not much of a bite. But
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the move towards socialism should be a wake up call
for all capitalists that you need to do a better
job of selling capitalism to the young people of America
or you will lose it.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I know it's going to be I think that Mondamie
actually probably lost or had more outrage on the furthest
of the Left than Trump picked up on the magazine
The Furthest of the Right, being upset that those two
would even meet and speak socially.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
I feel like most MAGU members understand that Trump is
a He's going to be cordial, Yeah, to pretty much anybody.
Like you know, somebody said over the weekend, I don't
think he'd be nice to Nancy Pelosi, but I bet
you have Nancy Pelosi just in a like presented things
like in a joking matter to him. Like you know,
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remember the time I ripped up the speech man, I
was out of line on that one or whatever. You
certainly were anything, But you know I didn't say some
nice things either, you know, but let water you under
the cons He wants to be friends with everybody, but
he's not afraid to tell you to go f yourself.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
But the Onnamie people on the furthest of the left,
I mean, they probably outraged then will hold that for
a long time, very upset. You're right, You're right, all right. Anyway,
we'll see how that plays out as the Poland continues.
It's going to be a short weeks, Sou Carolina. We're
going to be able to find an opportunity to have
some civil conversation. We're reading some interesting stats. Want to
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share tomorrow about how many people think they're getting a
political argument over the Thanksgiving table. Yeah, we'll talk about
that tomorrow. Thanks for being here.
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show. Jonathan Rush, are
you affirming that you think President Trump.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Is a fascist?
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Kelly Nash? That's okay.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
You just say yes, okay. It's easier than explaining a pediment.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Jonathan and Kelly Show, Fascist in the communist meeting in
the Oval Office?
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Is that a beginning of a Joke's.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
What it sounds like. I don't know. Hey, this is
Jonathan Russell's Kelly Nash. It's Monday, the twenty fourth of November,
and we have a special guest on the J and
K Super Secret Double Probationary Hotline, Kelly Nash. Welcome on
the phone. US Congressman and gubernatorial hopeful Ralph Norman. Good morning, sir, Hey.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Good morning, good morning. Glad to be with y'all.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Well, I'm telling you, trying to read the news out
of DC these days is like trying to drink out
of a fire hydrant. We have all kind of craziness
going on, and I wanted to get your take on
exactly what is going to happen here with our House
members and or other highly appointed government officials who seemingly
are calling for an insurrection that Donald Trump wants to
hang them. Have we already built the scaffolding up in
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DC for the big day? What do we do it?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I tell you one thing. We need consequences. We need
people held accountable. When you have six sitting members of
Congress who took an oath to uphold and defend the
Constitution of the United States saying to disobey the presidential orders,
when you've got ICE agents being assaulted, it's up eight
hundred percent in different areas. I mean, it's it's and
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I see it on the House floor. They're a radical group,
They're funded, they are taking a stance now that we're
going to take back power, regardless of what it takes,
legal or not legally. So the American people deserve better,
and I think it's up to Republicans to draw line
and not to retreat from it. You can't win with
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these people by, you know, by retreating. And you know,
I think New Jersey and Virginia were anomalies they were
blue states anyway on the elections of that took place there.
But midterms are all important, and I think President Trump
understands that, and I think we'll have things that I
hope that the voters will listen to we're.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Talking with Congressman Ralph Norman, and it does seem shocking
to me that you had brought forth last week a
censure vote, and that seemed like a no brainer for
Plasket from the Virgin Islands, who was texting with Jeffrey
Epstein during the congressional hearing and basically, in my estimation,
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became Epstein's puppet, like he put his hand up her
butt and said say what I say, do what as
I do, and she did what he told her to
do in order to try to make Donald Trump look bad.
And not only could you couldn't even get a censure
passed on that right after you had a unanimous vote
except for one to release the Epstein files. How could
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Congress be that divided about that?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Well, it shouldn't be. I mean, transparency is what the
Democrats said they wanted. They got everything they wanted. And
now to the defense that Plastic put up on the
House floor as she and Jamie Raskins was pathetic. I
mean to say that he was a normal constituent, that
she takes numerous phone calls. All the Sensor did was
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require her to get to the Ethics commit Committee to
investigate her and to be taken off her Intel Committee.
Intel committee gets information that regular congressmen do not get,
and here she is with a convicted pedophile in twenty
eighteen in Epstein, she was taking her whole five minutes
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of questioning to relay the information sent by Epstein or
witnesses that would make President Trump look bad. There is
absolutely no excuse why she shouldn't have gotten to censor.
And you had three Republicans vote President. You had three
Republicans vote no, and you had I think it was
four that didn't show up. Unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
You know, I've watched a lot of the Sunday shows
this past weekend, and the Democrats seem to be rather
gleeful in that polling on the economy is not going
in the President's direction. And now they get an opportunity
to shut down the government again at the end of January,
and they they're saying that, you guys don't have a choice.
You're going to have to go ahead and put the
COVID funding back into ACA and extend the subsidies and
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maybe even come up with more subsidies. They're very excited
about it.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Well, the thing about it, Jonathan and Kelly, you know,
the one point five trillion that they were asking to
basically spend on illegals, getting government, getting our tax money
through Medicaid, Medicare, all the other government programs is a
is a disaster and this blasphem us they're even doing that.
It's money that we clawed back through reconciliation and for
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them to want to spend it and give it to
their UH to punt to, you know, to fund the
radio programs and the stations that do not promote capitalism,
do not promote this country is again it's it's unbelievable.
But no, we're going to stick to our guns. Mike
Josh has done a good job. And if they shut
it down, let them shut it down, because we'll go
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through it again. And there's no way they're going to
sustain putting the healthcare Cristis, which it is. Premiums are
going up, but that's to Obamacare, and you don't extend
the substance to illegals. You just don't do that. So
we'll see how it plays out. Next week is going
to be interesting, but I think we're gonna come up
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with a plan. The President put it out this morning,
put up with it, come up with a plan that
makes sense, patient centered, let the patient deal directly with
their doctor and not going through insurance companies. All the
aboves on the table, but you can't do it under
a threat that the Democrats are going to do what
they did before, which you shut the government down.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Talking with Congressman Ralph Norman and you know, I guess
it was over the weekend that we all learned about
the latest scam out of Minnesota, where you've got at
least one some alum woman has now been arrested. I'm
twenty eight year old who had worked out a scam
with some doctor, a Somalian doctor in Minnesota, to have
Somalian residents in Minnesota come and bring their childs who
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don't have autism get an autistic diagnosis in order to
receive up to fifteen hundred dollars a month. They kept
to keep a portion of that money and then the
rest of it was sent to Somalia. Somalia, on average
it gets one point seven billion dollars a year from
outside of the country, which is more than their entire
budget for inside the country, and a large portion of
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that money goes to fund Al Shabab, whose number one
job it is is to kill Christians. And they don't
just kill them in Somalia. They go to Kenya and
they target universities and they have suicide bombers and all that.
And it turns out now that the American taxpayer, whether
it's through the Autism Fund or it was through the
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Feed the Children Fund where they stole hundreds of millions
of dollars, or it was through I mean, there's just
numerous occasions where this small group of Somalians up in
Minnesota or sending our tax dollars illegally stealing them from
us and then sending them to fund terrorism in Somalia.
And they're all represented by Ilhan Omar. Is there anything
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that we can do as Americans or the Congress can do,
because she was very cocky Sunday when Donald Trump said
I'm going to remove the temporary protective status on Somalians,
and she said, well, that's great. There's only seven hundred
of them, so most of us. You've already given us
the status of being a citizen here. Sucker, there's nothing
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you can do now, Sucker. And I'm a congresswoman, Sucker.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Well, Omar shouldn't be in Congress anyway, I mean, she's
got ethics violations that over the years that have basically
been covered up. No, they're in your face, and you
know the amount of and what's disturbing all of the
country is we're Christian based country. That's what our constitution
was based on. Christianity, and it's getting It's not just
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in foreign countries that are being persecuted. This group omar AOC,
that Crooud will wheta Shale, will go to no ends
to further their calls, which is anti American. And you
don't hear anything any outrage coming about the illegality of
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the Somolians who took advantage and money that should have
gone to children with special needs. But it's a new
day in this country. We've got to wake up to
the fact that we're in a fight and we've got
to take it to them and it needs to be consequences,
and I think President Trump will do that. But everyday, Americans,
all of us, the four hundred and thirty five members
in Congress, the hundred senators, this did a wake up
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call and we've got to meet the challenge this time.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
You know, over the weekend, had an opportunity to talk
to my dad, he's ninety one years old, retired. Every
year we go through and make sure that he has
the best Medicare plan he signed up for when of
course he has his Plan B and his Plan D,
and then we pick out a metagap plan to help
him out to try to make sure he can budget
for his expenses for his health care. But I know
this year in particular, there are going to be increases
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with Plan B in particular. And you look at the
amount of money that with these people are having to
come out of pocket in their retirement years, and many
of them are living on Social Security and the like
without a whole lot of savings. There ought to be
like a wheelchair outrage rolling down the street and protests
because we are wasting so much money on people who
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just got here. When you have an entire generation many
call the Greatest Generation that are retirement now and having
to try to find a way to live on their
retirement money from nineteen seventy nine and the year twenty
twenty five, and on top of that, take an increase
in their Plan B. It would seem like we'd be
trying to find ways to make sure these people are
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comfortable as possible and decreasing their premiums.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
That's exactly right. And look at the income thresholds, some
as high as four hundred thousand. If they make four
hundred thousand, a husband and wife make the combined income,
they get a check from the government. Does eye of
that fair? It's not. And again it's and that's just
one element of this whole the corruption that exists. And
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we saw it with Smiley, but how many other places
are we missing? Elon must did this country a tremendous
service by identifying what he identified as waste, fraud and abuse,
and it started off with USAID. And you noticed the
press didn't covering the things that were found. I mean,
the walls that were built in Libya, the shows that
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were going on on Sesame Street in a rock, just
pure waste of money. We've got to get back to that,
and I hope next week we have our caucus, we
will have a plan to put some accountability, to condemn
the smilings and whoever let them get by with that,
and make sure the guardrails in place that doesn't happen
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again in that particular case, but in so many other
cases where there's a waste for AWD abuse.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
You've certainly heard a lot of from the Republicans over
the weekend regarding this transition that they want to make
away from the Affordable Care Act. Is it feasible that
we're going to be able to end it and move
on to something new, or are we going to have
a long transition period where we're going to have to
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subsidize it, or how do you see this thing playing out?
Not what do you want to see happen, how do
you think it will happen.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
I think what's going to happen. You'll have a middle
road that's taken. I think some of the subsidies should
have expired at the end of this year, you se
a portion of them stay in place. I think you'll
see hopefully the income levels drop, you know, from the
four hundred thousand down to those who truly need it.
(11:56):
And I think you'll see some efforts to get get
it back to where HSA accounts the businesses can set
those up where you know, patients have more control over
the doctor. I've had doctors tell me that not only
are they not going into the profession, they can't even
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understand where the money is coming from from an insurance company.
If you read the statement that billing that the big
hospitals have. Now no one understands and it's the doctors
can understand it. The patient definitely is not going to
understand it. But I've got a lady who works with me,
single sixty five premiums jumping to a thousand a month
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and she can't afford it, and she's you know, it's ludicrous.
But yeah, we'll have a media, we'll have something urgent
has passed. It's better than what we have. But is
it a catch all? Is the end all for the
bad policy of vomitcare note? But it'll be put back
on a path, that is, it will be sustained.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I think you know you mentioned Elon Musk committed to
going what a tremendous favor he did for the US,
But I larned just this morning. I didn't know this.
On MSNBC, they were quite joyous over they're throwing a parade.
I believe that the DOGE office has beneficially closed. Can
you update us on where we are with that. Have
we taken the responsibilities and put them back under other
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federal bureaucracy agency heads?
Speaker 2 (13:22):
No? From what I hear, you know we had on
the recisions we had such you know, we got to
be in past, wanted to be in three of B
and four on the pocket recisions that came up after that,
it was struggling to get anything passed and refunded, to
refunded to the people. That's what is shocking, I think,
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just from I mean the the negative publicity that Elon
Musk received and the things that he found. The American
people ought to be happy, but the media portrays of those,
you know, something bad. It's not the things that I
think will come back up. And it's up to us
to bring us up, for the conservatives to highlight it
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and do something about it and make it from its
center stage. But every dollar I've learned in DC has
got an advocate for it, and it doesn't. You can't,
you can't take it away easily. But it's got to
be done.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Congressman Ralph Norman Any thoughts on soon to be former
coworker Marjorie Taylor Green announcing her resignation.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Now, it's disappointed that she's quitting. It just makes our
then majority even thinner. I knew she and President Trump
had gotten on the opposite sides, and I don't know
what her motives are. I don't know why she's doing
what she's doing. She was, if you remember, she was
the biggest advocate. She was on the campaign trail with him,
and she's been you know, all of a sudden, everything's
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bad about what President Trump's doing, and he had no
other choice than to call her out, which I'm glad
he did. But I mean, she's like Mark Green. She's
leaving and I'm sure we have another election, a special
election to replace her, but she's in a red district.
It's going to be a Republican, but the time that
it's going to take is concerning.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Well, I know we have limited time with you, and
as always, I could ask you another twenty or thirty
questions because the persons that are plugged in and staying
in tone with the news, and I realized that's not
an overwhelming percentage of the American electorate, but it is
a growing number hopefully, are very concerned about a lot
of issues coming down though. You're one of the biggest fighters.
Who appreciate you fighting in DC, and I need to
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ask you at least one question as you move towards
your gubernatorial hopeful campaign. You've been up and down it
all over the state of South Carolina, and over the
weekend I thought about you. I was just driving down
Gervay Street and I thought, if I were the governor
of the state of South Carolina, I'd be embarrassed to
have my friends come here because it's like a damn
dirt road over there.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Well, the secondary Rose, I've traveled them all across South
Carolina and it's like a bombed out UH terminal, you know,
runways for airplanes. I mean you're dodging potholes. They only
I mean the fact that we don't put money into
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our infrastructure, We're gonna pay a price. Under a Norman governorship.
That's gonna be a top parity along with getting the
corruption out. There will be no more finding a billion
dollars at the end of the year and letting politicians
spend it. So we got we gotta work cut out.
But it's also we got opportunities to do some great things.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Well, we appreciate your time. We'll be hearing more from
you as we get closer to that election, and we'll
have more opportunities to hear your debating the like, and
see you on the road on the trail talking to
South Carolinians. Thank you for your time in d C.
And look forward to seeing you back in the Parlemental
States soon.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Well and joy being on your present.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Thank you, Thanks again, Congressman. We appreciate the phone call.
I want to go back to the Oval Office meeting. Okay,
Zoe run and Donald Trump, the fascist and the communists.
So obviously the communist doesn't believe that Donald Trump is
Hitler because if you got that close to him, it
would be demand at the bond you to actually kill Hitler,
wouldn't it. Or if you're a communist, you wouldn't mind
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it so much, would you? Oh, you wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
I mean, it's really a weird meeting that took place
because depending on how you want to look at that,
you could take anything you want away from that meeting.
So there are some people who are disgusted by Donald
Trump and his apparent you know one eighty on Zorhan
that he's now willing to work with him, and you
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know he said, I if he if he gets elected,
I'm not going to fund him. I'm going to you know,
he needs to beg blah blah blah. Then there's other
people who you know, pro mom, Donnie who are like,
I can't believe you looked like you were like licking
Donald Trump's boots. You looked like a schoolboy down there
just trying to get, you know, permission from dad to
do stuff because you're standing and he's sitting. But then
there's other people who would say troll, that Trump is
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trolling everybody in New York. I mean, there's just a
number of different ways to try try to read what
you saw on Friday, And I guess it doesn't really
matter what you think you saw. What will what plays
out over the next few months, starting in January with
his you know, swearing in, that will be what's really important.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Yeah, I mean, as much as you want to see
New York falter under the leadership of the mayor, I mean,
if you're an American, you really can't cheer against watching
what was the capital of capitalism certainly is going to
be moving out now, I believe, but you can't just
cheer that entire city to falter and fall down. And
what will be the escape from New York three with
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Snake Bliskin.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Well, you know, I grew up in that area, and
I remember the nineteen seventies very well as a child
going to New York and it was a sessed pool.
It's one of the hell holes that Donald Trump would
have talked about, even though he was living there as well.
I can remember the prostitution was so rampant in the
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middle of the broad daylight. I mean, my parents took
me to what they, I guess thought was going to
be a fun day and I was probably like six
or seven years old, but I was scarred by it
because the prostitutes in the middle of the day were
so aggressive. They were trying to physically pull my father
into like an alley, Oh my gosh, basically to rob him.
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I don't know if I don't know if he would
have gotten the upside of that, but he would have
been not a lot of money. So my mother and
my father were fighting hookers in you know, the Times
Square district, and I'm like a six year old crying.
But you know, then in the eighties, very similar it was.
I moved into New York City in nineteen ninety six,
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and you know, not over exaggerating, regularly, probably once every
ten days or so, would have to step over either
someone who was dead or about to be dead blocking
my door in order to get into my apartment due
to the massive drug overdoses that were happening. And it
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wasn't until Giuliani got in. I think that was ninety
eight that he took over. Maybe it was earlier, but
whenever he took over, they started the broken window policies.
They changed all the policing in New York City, cleaned
up and had a nice, I want to say, what
fifteen twenty year run. They had a nice run until
probably the middle of the teens. This year, you know,
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twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, it really started getting bad again.
By twenty twenty it was back to becoming assessed pool
and what we see with mom Donnie's policies. Sure, I
understand that he needs Kathy Hokeel to approve a lot
of what he's talking about. So he's not going to
get the corporate rate tax increase. He's not going to get.
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He's also agreed to keep the police Commissioner on because
that was one of his campaign slogans was I'm going
to get rid of her. We're going to just make
the police crazy again. But if he was to implement it,
we could get it back to like nineteen seventy seven,
Bronx is burning. And that's a very famous scene from
a Monday night baseball game where the Yankees aerial shot
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on ABC and you could see roughly four miles of
the Bronx on fire. Just legit on fires like a
wild It's like the fires in California and the Palace Aides,
but that's actually in a forest. These were apartment buildings
filled with hundreds of people all on fire, literally thousands
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of people dying during a Monday night baseball game. And
then that's when you got the mayor of New York
City sending a letter to Gerald Ford, the President, and
the famous New York Post response was Ford tells New
York go to hell, because we were We're not going
to send you another bailout. Because that's how New York
City had been operating for a decade or more, was
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they kept needing federal bailouts, and Ford said, I'm not
doing it. You can go to hell. We're not doing it.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
I think it was like nineteen eighty when I first
went to New York. And you're right, the most stark
comparison of the haves and have nots, And I wonder
if this is what Mexico city looks like because you
literally would see a stretch limo pull up in front
of what was an incredible building, one of the office buildings,
and you would you watch guys get out of that limo,
or at least one head guy certainly, and maybe a
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couple of assistants, and they're walking within ten feet of
a guy who you really, I would really bet that
that dude laying there on the concrete is dead. Yes,
that's and it was such a stark comparison. And although
coming from the South, you had heard about these things
and read about them and maybe seeing some pictures and newspapers,
or maybe you picked up a little bit on television,
but you stand on the sidewalk in New York City
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and actually see that play out in person, you don't
realize at that time how much like Mexico City it
probably was. It was the land of the haves and
the have nots. And then I only went back to
New York like three or four times afterwards, And you're right,
during the Giuliana years, it was certainly more enjoyable and
you felt more at ease going into the city. But
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you know, at the same time, I do remember I
think it was my first trip to New York when
I rented a car on a Sunday morning, because I
looked out of my hotel room, there's no traffic, like,
this is perfect for me. I can drive in this
because previous it was just like teaming with people. I
certainly didn't want to get in a car or drive
a car, but I made it the block before I
got pulled over from making a right on red. And
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as outraged as I was that in New York City,
the guy's like, where you from? Like South Carolina. He's like, yeah,
there's no right on red in New York City. I'm
like what. He pulled out his ticket, but you don't
write me a ticket for making a right on red.
There's a prostitute right over there, and I've never actually
seen one in person. I've seen it on television. I
think that's a drug deal going down right there. But
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you're going to give me a ticket for a right
on red. And at that point he caught that New
York City attitude with me, and I'm like, I better
shut the hell up before I end up in jail.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Well, I mean literally, I mean there was an open
policy that they were looking for people to ticket because
that's how they raised money. There's no money in busting
a prostitute. There's no money even in the drug dealers.
The drug dealers would just cry poverty and say I'll
sit and jail then and then so then it became
a you know, a negative expense for the City of
New York to drail to jail a drug dealer. So
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they would instead say, okay, well you just try to
keep it, try to keep it copasetic, keep your hooking
to a minimum, which meant legitimately in Times Square forty
second Street at that time was nothing but pornos, shops,
peep booths, and prostitutes and drug dealers. That's all it was.
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And I can remember going there in nineteen eighty three
with my friend Pete Ash. We took the train in
that day and Pete and I, you know, we were
trying to remain calm and cool, collected, acting like we
belonged there. You know, don't look up at the skyscrapers,
don't let anybody see that you're shocked by any of this, right,
And I mean, but I for whatever reason, because it
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happened to me all the time after that, but I
still remember that day just being somewhat overwhelmed by the
amount of people that when you walk by them, they're like,
what you need, man, you need pills? What you need
you need? You need some weed, you need some heroin,
you need some dust. What you're looking for, bro? And
it's it's whites, blacks, Latinos, Native Americans. They're all offering
you anything you want right now. You need girls, you
(25:26):
need boys. What you're looking for? What are you looking for?
You got fifty bucks. You can have whatever you want
for fifty dollars.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
I'm trying to remember the record rep's name. In New York,
I visited and we were just doing some stuff. He
was showing me around the city and we got off
of the subway and got back up on the street level,
and he was genuinely pissed. Don't you ever do that
to me again? Yeah, don't do that.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Don't look at a building.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
And I'm like, what he said, you do not make
eye contact in the subway. You're going to get us killed.
That's that's true too. You don't know which person's going
to kill you. Okay, brother, you should have told me
that before we went down.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
I mean, you know, you look in Chicago, you got
over the weekend, you had a woman set on fire
on the subway, probably because she made eye contact and
the guy had been arrested. Originally they said forty four times.
Now it's seventy three times. And you know, that's the
way it is in these big cities now, they just
(26:21):
are revolving. And that's the way it was in the
sixties and the seventies and the eighties in New York.
And that was the fears that Mam Donnie was going
to bring the good old days back. But I mean
just on the financial tip. You know, he's one of
his pledges is to make New York affordable again by
putting a rent freeze in place. The rent freeze is
what drives up the prices. And I don't know how
(26:42):
many times we have to explain this to people, but
when you say that you cannot charge more than X
amount of dollars for whatever, that does not stabilize it.
That just drives the other ones through the roof. So
when I'm locked in at my rate, that okay, so
didn't never leave. I'm never leaving. And then when I die,
(27:05):
I literally leave it to my nephew or my grandchild
or something. So You've got people living in New York
City that are paying three hundred dollars a month rents
right now. So when the other apartment comes available, rather
than going for three or four thousand dollars a month,
which you know for New York would seem like a
reasonable price, is going for fourteen thousand. So now because
(27:26):
they got the guy who owns the building has to
get his money somehow. He's not going to just run
a for lost business.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
And I'm sure there'll be situations like much like anywhere
in the US, where you have like hud money or
you got it, a state or a city that provides
housing moneyes and they allow you a certain amount and
then you go to look at a place that's more
than that, so then you pay the owner under the
table in cash. Yes, so now you've got people that
(27:56):
are paying what would be the regular rent price, but
they're actually put both of you in jeopardy. The States
supposedly will prosecute you for that, but how in the
world would they ever find out because the person who's
in the system is never going to admit to it
because they don't want to get kicked out of the system.
That's right, and the landlord's got to figure out a
way to make enough money to pay the taxes around here. Yes,
so you put them both in a position where you
(28:17):
got to make them do an undertake of the deal
like that.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Yeah, it's a very bad plan that Mam Donnie has,
And again a lot of it depends on Kathy Hokeel
and even what the federal government is willing to tolerate.
So hopefully he's not going to get away with most
of it. And I think at the end of the day, hopefully,
hopefully Mam Donnie turns out to be a dog with
a big bark and not much of a bite. But
(28:43):
the move towards socialism should be a wake up call
for all capitalists that you need to do a better
job of selling capitalism to the young people of America
or you will lose it.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I know it's going to be I think that Mondamie
actually probably lost or had more outrage on the furthest
of the Left than Trump picked up on the magazine
The Furthest of the Right, being upset that those two
would even meet and speak socially.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
I feel like most MAGU members understand that Trump is
a He's going to be cordial, Yeah, to pretty much anybody.
Like you know, somebody said over the weekend, I don't
think he'd be nice to Nancy Pelosi, but I bet
you have Nancy Pelosi just in a like presented things
like in a joking matter to him. Like you know,
(29:29):
remember the time I ripped up the speech man, I
was out of line on that one or whatever. You
certainly were anything, But you know I didn't say some
nice things either, you know, but let water you under
the cons He wants to be friends with everybody, but
he's not afraid to tell you to go f yourself.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
But the Onnamie people on the furthest of the left,
I mean, they probably outraged then will hold that for
a long time, very upset. You're right, You're right, all right. Anyway,
we'll see how that plays out as the Poland continues.
It's going to be a short weeks, Sou Carolina. We're
going to be able to find an opportunity to have
some civil conversation. We're reading some interesting stats. Want to
(30:05):
share tomorrow about how many people think they're getting a
political argument over the Thanksgiving table. Yeah, we'll talk about
that tomorrow. Thanks for being here.
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