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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
A lot of these Afghanistans when they did get here
and get betted, they're no identification at all, not one
piece of identification.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Kelly Nash, there's no way.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
To bet these people, we think, Al Salvador, do you
think the government of China, Russia, Turkey, you think they're
going to share that data with us even if they
did have it?
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Y show, Well, can you imagine actually having a conversation
where you're trying to convince someone that the vetting that
took place under the Biden administration and you're going to
get interrupted right there so they can point out they
vetted them before they came into the country, they vetted
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them three times since they've been in the system, and
they continue to be vetted. How in the world do
you help these people understand what you're saying. They refuse
to understand understand it from the onset. The only thing
that we're vetting is is the information that the Biden
administration assigned to them.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Well, and also, you know, regarding the National Guard shooter,
that guy, according to the person who was supposed to
be kind of like looking out for him here in
the United States. He started raising the flag that we
got a problem here, that this guy's kind of going
off the grid. He's acting erradically, he seems suicidal, and
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nobody would do anything about it because he's one of
the beloved Afghanis. You know, I had two theories on
that guy. One is more of kind of in line
with the second guy who wanted to the Afghan who
was trying to blow up Fort Worth, Texas over the weekend.
And that guy, I think is probably representative of a
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lot of Afghanis. And it's hard to put yourself in
their shoes because we have completely different cultures. But it's
definitely not too hard for me to imagine that if
in two thousand and one a country came in and said,
we're which we did. We're going to fight the Taliban
for you, and we're gonna have you help us with this,
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and when we leave, the Taliban will not be in control.
We're going to fix this country for you.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
You leave to stay in your own home and your
own home country without the fear of being killed.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Twenty long ass years later, in twenty twenty one, and
they don't know Joe Biden from Donald Trump person, you know,
they don't know any of this stuff. They just know
the United States. The United States makes some sort of
I mean, think about it. January of twenty twenty, Donald
Trump is or twenty twenty one is leaving office. February
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of twenty twenty one, a month later, is when Joe
Biden brings US down to twenty two thousand troops. Just
what the flip is happening? Like all of a sudden,
chaos is ramping up. Now you've got our military leaders
actually talking to the Taliban saying, we're getting the hell
out of here. We're pulling out. You can have the
whole flipping country back. Now, these Afghanis are like, what
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the freak are you talking about? We were gonna we're
with you on this, like we've been. We've put everything
into this.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
I put my ass on the line for twenty years.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
So then we just grabbed roughly ninety thousand and said them, yeah,
random Afghanis, first people at the gate, and took them
back home. In the inside that ninety thousand. Just assume
that the vast majority are part of the people who
fought with us. Well, now their sisters, their grandmothers, their mothers,
whomever has been left behind, they're being raped, they're being
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I mean, all the brutality of the Taliban is back
in a big way. So do I have a grudge
against the United States even though you brought me to
Fort Worth, Texas. I freaking hate this place. I hate
your government, I hate everybody.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
What you did to my family. They're all dead.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
The other scenario I had is, like for the guy
from the National Guard shooter, they dropped his ass off
and Bellingham, Washington, which I looked up the voting records.
It's a sixty five to thirty five district, meaning sixty
five percent voted for Kamala thirty five voted for Trump.
That is about as far left as you can get
in the United States. Beellingham, Washington, there's very few that
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touched seventy there was very few. Seventy thirty sixty five,
thirty five is pretty much as dramatic as you can get.
Is his head being filled because they did say on
a lot of the Sunday shows he was radicalized after
he got here. Well, who is he talking to? He's
talking about?
Speaker 3 (04:29):
He asked that question.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Yeah, he's talking to the He's watching MSNBC, he's watching CNN,
He's talking.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
We're gonna be looking at his history in his own
line and his devices. We're gonna we're gonna find out
who he was talking to.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
He's look, he's a a he doesn't work for Amazon.
Amazon wants you to know that he worked for Amazon
Push or Plus or whatever the hell it's called, the
company that allows people to deliver Amazon packages with their
own vehicles. That's what he was doing for a living.
And so he's talking to these housewives. He's pulling up
to the liberal white house wives who are saying, isn't
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it a shame what's going on in America that Donald
Trump is using the National Guard to intimidate people from voting,
That the National Guard is being used to steal elections.
They're going to end democracy, They're going to destroy America. Well,
you tell somebody that if he loves America, then he's
got an incentive to go shoot National Guards people, right,
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because I've.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Already lived under that kind of authoritarian regime, but I
want to go back to it. Donald Trump's an authoritarian.
I'm going to kill at least a couple of members
of his military because he's using the military to take
over the country.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
In a threat to democracy, and in either one of
those scenarios, democrats are to blame. Yes, at no point
can you point to the Republicans and say it's their rhetoric,
it's what they're doing that's causing any harm now.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
And also then you've got Donald Trump putting the clamp
down on persons coming to the US from several different
countries he named specifically, and I didn't even realize this,
but he's a racist for doing that because all the
countries that he mentioned or countries of poor people, these
are poor governments. You know, at some point, don't you
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have to realize that the s holes that he was
talking about before, the s holes are not necessarily a
reflection of the ground. This is not a reflection of
their soil content. This is a reflection of their government,
the government that is currently representing the people. So it's
not that you're saying that the people there are for crap.
What you're saying is is that the people have allowed
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their government to run rampant over them. And to see
in the corruption level, will get into the corruption more
so later today in the corruption level, So you're getting
to the point where you not only have the corruption,
but you also have a group of people who are
anti American by nature. They tell you that every day.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Well, I mean, look at Afghanistan, right, So we're talking
about Afghanistan. Obviously in the news a lot with the
two afghanis trying to kill Americans. And so you're talking
about a country that's forty two million people. The Taliban
most estimates have it somewhere around three to four hundred
thousand people. So somehow you're telling me I am to believe,
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if I was to believe a liberal, that the forty
two million people are being held hostage by four hundred thousand,
that the four hundred thousand they're bad dudes, no doubt
about it. Sure, but you're telling me that of the
other because it's forty two point sixty five million people.
So of the other forty two point two million people,
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you can't muster up a group of men that would
fight back against this three to four hundred thousand Taliban member.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
If they truly disagree with their mindset in the theology.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
It would seem obvious to anyone that after twenty years
out of power, the freaking Taliban was pretty flip and weak.
Twenty years those people got bombed twenty years they were assassinated,
twenty years of being cut off from world funding an AID,
and yet the Taliban is still here because the people
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of Afghanistan like them, They want them, that's their party.
So get the hell out of Afghanistan and recognize that's
what they want and they and guess what, it's not
our job to take them into our country. This is
the thing about immigration that's just painful. There's the liberals
believe that because the United States is a nice place,
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it's our job to ruin it. It's our job to
bring in everybody from all these crappy countries and make
our country as crappy as their country. The United States
is a beautiful place because people paid the price to
make it a beautiful place. Your ancestors, my ancestors, maybe
even first generation people paid the price to go through
the paperwork, do all the vetting, you know. And then
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they always want to point back to the huddled masses. Oh,
give this, you know, huddled masses. That crap stopped in
nineteen thirty. Yeah, because of nineteen thirty, we started social
welfare programs. Before social welfare programs, if you got here
in the eighteen hundred, seventeen hundred, sixteen hundred, fifteen hundreds,
Welcome to America. Go flip and do something or starve.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
They just wanted to make sure that they had the opportunity.
That's why they came here.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
They really do. What they wanted was less government. Sure,
that's really what they all wanted, if.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
They wanted the opportunity to live their lives with less government.
And America gave them the freedom that they yearned for.
That was what the huddle masses came here for.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
But starting in the thirties, we started these social programs
and so then by the fifties and sixties were incentivizing people.
You come here. Look, it's tough, I understand. So we're
gonna give you a free place to live. We're gonna
give you food, We're gonna give you clothes. Now, we're
giving you medicine. We're giving you a freaking laptop. We're
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free cable TV. This is not it's not sustainable and
it's not wise because you're allowing people into this country
who don't want to be Americans. They don't like Americans,
they just want to live in America.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Now, on top of all that, do we have the
named source shit or are We still working on the
unnamed source that told us that Pete double tap Headseth
gave the order to kill two drug traffickers clinging to
the floating hull of a boat.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
You know that, And that is one of the more
bizarre twists in a story, because it wasn't. I don't
even think a month ago that we had two survivors
and I don't. And originally they thought they were Venezuelans.
What we found out later was one was from Colombia,
the other one is from Ecuador. They were both sent
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back to their countries after they got out of the hospital.
The one in Ecuador is standing trial for some reason.
The guys in Colombia, they don't see any problems with
this guy. There's no trial.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
They said.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
We investigated him. We didn't see any drug activity with
that guy.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
We bought a mistake, Yes, we.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Didn't see any problems with him.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
We slaughtered a fat a calf.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
But I don't know if we know who is claiming
that Pete hag Seth gave the nobody no survivor's order.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Boy, what great timing because you've got Mark Kelly out
there saying that these military soldiers have to be able
to recognize an illegal order well, and what they're describing
would be, according to the Geneva Convention, an illegal order.
That's amazing timing the way that came down from an
unnamed source.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
We are taking seriously reports of the follow on strikes
on boats alleged to be very faring narcotics, and we're
taking bipartisan action to gather information. So as of right now,
they don't have any information, and this is Monday morning.
But of course we got Chris van Holland is involved
with this, and Mark Kelly from Arizona. I think they're
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all part of this House Intelligence Committee.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
I had no idea by the way that l Salvadori
on Holland is being mentioned as what he hopes to
be the Senate Majority leader. No way. Yeah, they asking
that at the end of the interview with Jonathan what's
his name.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
On oh Jonathan on ABC.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Yeah, sitting in for George the Snuffhalophagus.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
I don't know what that guy's name.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Yeah, they ask him about that, and he said, right now,
I'm just focused on making sure the Trump administration, you know,
is you know, held to the guardrails of democracy or whatever.
His BS answer was but yeah, they he's being his
name is being banteed about as being the new Chuck Schumer.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Happened. I mean, you heard that over the holiday weekend.
Until yesterday. I can't imagine. I'm trying to Okay, So
if you look at the last fifteen years or so
of the Democrat Party, this is not the guy that
they're looking for. Because you know, it's interesting that I
was thinking about this over the weekend. I think about
really random things on holiday weekends, apparently, so I spent
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a part of my weekend thinking about the idea of
what the socialists did in America. First they got the schools.
Then they kind of indoctrinated a bunch of kids over
the last thirty years or so into the idea that
socialism is really a caring, loving way of taking care
of everybody in your country. Once they got enough of
them to believe it, they didn't attack the Republicans, which
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is I thought, you know, again, if you're not a
great strategy strategicist, I guess you would have done a
full frontal assault on the Republican Party. But they didn't.
They took it. They're assaulting the Democrat Party, and the
first ones that came across were to leave AOC, the
group that called themselves the Squad. They were basically funded
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by the Socialist Party to primary weak Democrats, and the
angle became they don't fight hard enough for the people
of the streets. We're the people of the streets, and
so they I mean, the AOC thing is legendary. I'm
sure it's been completely scrubbed from the Internet by now,
but there was a twenty eighteen documentary on her audition.
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I mean they're going literally and just having a people
come by, like bartenders like her, Yeah, come and read
the socialist lines that we have, and they picked the
I mean, look, AOC is like the Meryl Streep of Washington, DC.
She delivers the lines fantastically. She's an award winner.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
As long as she's not thinking on her own, she's
doing pretty good.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
She is fantastic at that in that role, and that
is a role now. But they're trying to take out
the Democrats. But this van Holland fella, he looks soft,
feels soft, sound soft. There's nothing about him to me.
By the way, do you see Corey Booker's getting ready
for a presidential run? I know he got married there
you go, Corey Booker, well known homosexual, had to get
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married over the weekend to another version of Rosario Dawson
who would not renew the role, didn't. I guess the
pay increase wasn't enough for Rozario Dawson to repeat that role.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
You know. I guess that when you look at the
fact that l. SALVADORI Van Holland did make the trip
down to see the Maryland Dad, so he's got enough
cred in that regard, and he does look like he
would be a moderate face. He's a white guy that
they can market as a moderate to head up the
Democrats leftist socialist angles. And he hasn't gone out as
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far as say Bernie, and Bernie's getting too old anyway.
But if you I guess Van Holland under that scenario
would come close to I'm trying to think of another person,
and you mentioned Cory Booker, maybe one, but you're trying
to mention and he's already making the push for a
new leadership Corey did. So you look at the availability,
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I guess Van Holland would be in for a good testing.
We got to come up with three. It's almost like
a roller call. It's almost like a cattle call. Again,
we're going to test all of these candidates to see
which one tests the best.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Well, i'm looking at they're actual scoring right now as
far as the most left, So Senator Sanders comes in
at number one hundred, he's the most to the left
that you can get. Welch Democrat Vermont, so both Vermont
looneys she that's number ninety nine. Merkley from Oregon ninety eight.
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Bloomenthal might not be a bad choice from Connecticut. He's
obviously very, very well spoken, gets on the media a lot.
Elizabeth Warren at ninety six, Now I guess we're saying
she's too old for the role. Then h for younger leadership.
I'm trying to think Mark to be older than fifty.
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Let's see, can't be older than fifty. Well, then you
got Corey Booker. Corey Booker is a number ninety three,
so you're not gonna get any left in him. Padilla
from California. Now, Padilla is a great choice. Padia is
like in his forties, and Padilla also faked an attack.
Padilla is a good one. Then you get Van Holland,
who just seems soft to me. White House from Rhode Island.
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The guy from Hawaii Herono. Yep, Duckworth is a veteran,
and they hate veterans, so they're not gonna let Duckworth in.
Dick Durbin. Senator Smith from Minnesota. Who's Senator Smith from Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
That's not ringing a bill.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
They first got elected in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
That's not ringing a bill.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
But no, Senator Smith is number eighty six, coming in
above Murphy from Connecticut.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Then he's not a bad choice.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Wouldn't it be amazing? They could never let this happen,
but it would be amazing if Fedtterman got it. Fetterman
comes in at number eighty four on the voting records.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
No, he's already stepped out of line.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Think about that. Fetterman is further to the left than
like a lot of them. Klobashar, I mean the list
goes on that, Tim Kaine, I mean, all these people
are way more moderate than Fetterman. And yet Fetterman talks
common sense stuff. So the hot button issues, like the
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transgender stuff, Fetterman's like, we're wrong on social issues.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
He says we're wrong, wrong, regrets are wrong.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
But when it comes to just we want to spread butter,
we want to spend money.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Because we got to work on feelings around here.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Well that's always been there, their thing. Chris Cunhams came
in at sixty four. Chris Coons is almost a damn Republican.
John oss Off is fifty nine. Wow, Tester comes in
it for is Tester still around? He's out now, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (18:29):
He's out? All right?
Speaker 1 (18:30):
So that was the twenty twenty four voting record. Mark
Kelly came in at fifty seven.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
So now he's just a hope and a prayer. He
desperately wants it.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
But could Mark Kelly be a believable Speaker of the House,
far more believable than soft ass Van Holland. But again,
maybe he's too centrist. Now how about how about we
do this? How why don't we look the brother up?
We got Raphael Warnock. Interesting, now you've got a black
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man contemplate that one. But he's too religious. If you
got if you got warnock'n you got Hakeem.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
He's not going to bring in.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
He's not going to bring We finally got the diversity
we want, which is no diversity. So you're finally achieving.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
We're not is too Christian?
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Is there No? Is there no black female available for
this job? I'm not saying one. Well, anyway, the good
news is I don't think that they're going to win.
I don't think that they're going to get the Senate.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Well, we got to find out who, who called who,
who placed the order room, the who made the order room,
the double.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Down and again that I mean, the way that story
has just run wild. I know you were implicate kind
of like hinting around the idea of well, the timing
of this, it's just yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Illegal order.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
This is this is clearly out of a playbook from
Central Command. Somebody at the source of the New York
Times sitting in his office in Manhattan. Yes, just said,
you know what, will tell them that it's in illegal
order and see what they say, can we? And again,
who was it that said I'm trying to remember who
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it was that was saying this last week, But they're like,
this is what we do with the CIA in other countries. Yes,
when we're trying to introduce a coup, this is how
we do it. This is the playbook that we use.
They're doing it on us now.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
I remember that quote being tossed around again. Last week, Hey,
in South Carolina, we got a couple of things that
are kind of bubbling on the sidelines as we just
focus on and we will go into caveat sideline arguments
not arguments, but information that we learned today after we
read the headline after a South Carolina bridge collapse, tickets
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for truck drivers are skyrocketing and raising more concerns. Now,
you may or may not know that there was a
bridge and the upstate, and the upstate apparently has many
more subpar bridges and say the Midlands, but we know
that the one, the most subpart one is right here,
not far from where Cala and I are sitting. So
we had an overweight truck causing upstate bridge to collapse,
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and with that went another car. So now I'm suddenly
making sure that when I cross a bridge in South Carolina,
I'm not behind a truck because I don't know how
much it weighs. And by the way, the weight limit
is about eighty thousand pounds, actually it is eighty thousand pounds.
And I was thinking about what are the heaviest trucks
right now on the road that I see? Obviously gas
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trucks that'd be a lot of liquid. We're talking about
five pounds per gallon. There's a lot of gallons in
those big trucks automobile carriers. Those come into about eighty
thousand pounds. Anyway, we're seeing that more and more companies
are getting tickets. How much more like double eight Because
between twenty twenty four and twenty twenty three there were
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three hundred and eighty seven citations. According to this article,
it's a one hundred and twenty six percent increase in
tickets that they've given out just so far in twenty
twenty five. So we've had a lot more tickets from
truckers who look, if you get a ticket because your
truck weighs too much, don't plead ignorant. You should know
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that you're driving down the road of the truck over
the weight limit. Now, I thought to myself out loud,
as I use the ways app a lot, and in
particular with Sally because she didn't like to get on
the interstate, I will click it so that I avoid
interstate roads. If we're going to be going somewhere where
it really doesn't make that much of a difference for
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our timeline. That's yeah, driving to Camden. I want to
go not on the interstate, and I want to avoid
interstates and toll roads, and I was wondering, there's got
to be an app out there that truckers can use
to help them even pick out the best route, because
we know traveling per mile and a truck costs x
amount of money per mile, and that's going to affect
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the price of the goods caring, so every truck company
wants to keep their cost down as low as possible.
I literally did not know the answer to that, and
Kelly found it on the internet within thirty seconds.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Yes, there's plenty of them, Copilot, GPS, Smart Truck Route,
Trucker Path, cigik truck, and caravon hammer. These are apps
that truck drivers can use not only for their weight
to pick a route like say, like you said, I
have an eighty thousand pound truck, you can also put
in your height and then that way it'll avoid secondary
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roads where there might be a bridge that doesn't meet that.
And it will also update in real time so that
if there's a I twenty is closed or there's a
massive delay on I twenty, it'll show you which secondary
roads you can take where the bridges will be strong
enough to hold your weight and or make sure you
can fit under the bridges. So that's all free, right, app.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
You should never get a ticket.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
You get an app because you were trying to beat
the system and you were putting other people's lives at risk.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Now, the head of the South Carolina Truckers Association says
that he thinks that the DOT was getting a lot
of pressure, particularly after that ugly bridge collapse. That ugly
thing happening going at some headlines and they're under a
massive amount of pressure to start writing tickets. Well, again,
if you get an app that tells you how much
the load rate of a bridge is and how to
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get around it, because it's going to help you navigate
the lowest cost getting around that bridge without actually using it,
I don't understand where the complaint is.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Well, and the's funny thing is he's used the phrase. Look,
it's fair to say this is a bit of an
overreaction that's going on with the police right now giving
out these tis. That's an overreaction. I'm sure the DOT
got pressure, like quote, what the heck, guys, how many
bridges do we have that are actually in that kind
of condition where they might collapse. Great question, mister Todd,
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because according to the newspaper, they said, was it twenty
four hundred, six hundred, twenty six hundred bridges that are
in the exact same condition or worse according to the ratings,
So there's twenty six hundred of those bridges that might
actually collapse right now.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Now, if I'm a logger, there may be a situation
where I find myself cutting or I'm hauling logs out
of a forest for cutting down pine trees in let's
say Kershaw County. Now, there may be a scenario where
I literally cannot cross a bridge to get out of
this this dirt off the start roading onto a secondary
and then onto an interstate or wherever I may not
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be able to get there. That would be a major problem,
and the state should know about that because we are
how much money did we depend on, for instance, our
timber association a lot, So that should come into play.
There should be opportunities for the South Carolina Trucking Association
to actually have a seat at the table to talk
about how you can best facilitate the companies. Because we
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keep talking about we're the beast of the Southeast well,
if you can't get a truck filled with your products
and move it from point A to point B, then
you got a I ate your problem.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Well, I thought you also made some strong points earlier
on the rash thought when you were talking about what
about fire trucks.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
When you realize that twenty percent, according to w SPATV,
twenty percent of the bridges or sub would not allow
emergency vehicles. And they talked to the fire chief. There
are water trucks and even ladder trucks that can't go
over certain bridges. But thankfully he said, we're able to
make it around those bridges. It may take us a
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little longer. When your house is on fire.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Or you know, moms having a heart attack, Do.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
You really want the fire truck not to be able
to make it across a bridge. These should be things
that are brought into consideration when we decide which bridges
we're going to we're going to be replacing. And by
the way, when we talk about four hundred bridges they're
going to replace, that's a ten year plan.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Now four hundred that's all we have to do. Oh,
that's right, you said we have twenty six hundred that
we we're only going to fix four hundred and ten years. Well,
now maybe we look, I don't know. I don't have
it in front of me, so I know that this
whole project and I say project, meaning the funding for
this started in twenty seventeen with the gas tax increase.
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So we've been at this for eight years. I don't
know how many bridges they fixed.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
You know, in the last eight years. What has happened
is the ten year plan does it include the previous eight?
Are we almost at four hundred bridges? It doesn't really
matter because it should be an all hands on deck
type of situation once you start having bridges collapsing. I mean,
when most sane people think about what is the role
of a government, like at the state level or even
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at the federal level, I mean, but I mean it's
really about infrastructure, Like the thing like when Obama said,
you got you can't credit for that business. You didn't
build that road. Okay, I didn't build the road, but
I built the business on the road, all right. So
if you're the point being that, yes, the community built
the road, but I built the business.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
But if there is it's also pay tax, says, and
you pay personal taxes.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Yeah, so I paid for the roads too, Yes, But
the point being that the role of government. When we
say we want limited government, what we mean by that
is less social programs, more infrastructure, more safety. We like
a lot more cops, a lot more firemen, a lot
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more school teachers who aren't crazy, a lot more bridges
that don't fall down. That's really the role of the government.
When you look at Henry McMaster and what his budget
proposals were for the what he called the surplus, which
again we should never, ever, ever, ever say that we
have a surplus, because first off, you've pointed out how
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many times, how many was like a trillion dollars that
we owe in the retirement.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
A total unfunded mandates from the retirement fund.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
It's literally like five hundred billion dollars or something insane
like that. But then when you start talking about the
building of the bridges and the maintenance of the roads,
we're talking billions and billions. I wrote it down earlier.
What did I say it was? We had like we're
fixing the four hundred bridges, and it was like it
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was something like two hundred and fifty billion dollars or something,
because I remember think it's like two hundred million dollars
per bridge, like this is insane. How many billions do
we have to come up with to fix the twenty
six hundred bridges. It's more money than we have. But
I've often said, you know, and you've often said, the
closer the government is to the people, the better it
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will be. And this every other state in America does
something that we don't do. The State of South Carolina
has allowed the State House to just start seizing more
and more roads more and more. So currently we have
almost triple triple the amount of roads as Georgia. Now
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that doesn't mean there's triple the amount of actual pavement
and stuff in South Carolina compared to Georgia. Georgia's obviously
more than double the size of South Carolina. But as
far as state roads go, they're at about a third
of what we are. Because the counties run their roads
and the towns run their roads. Because if Jonathan Rush
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has a problem with not I seventy seven, but some
little road in Forest Acres, he can go talk to
the Forest Acres County people, or he could talk to
the Richland County people. I can't get a hole and
even if you have all these state senators that you
know is your best friend as a state senator, he's
still going into a state house trying to get the
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dot's attention to come and fix it. It's an impossibility,
and we waste so much money in the bureaucracy.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Can you imagine because the counties do not control their
own rugs. Can you imagine if we found out if
a county found out, Let's say Calhoun County found out
that they lost the Scout deal to Blythewood because there
were no bro You know, when you load up a
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truckload of Scouts about eighty thousand pounds. What happens if
Calhoun County found out finds out that they lost that
Scout deal to Blythewood because they had two bridges that
were subpar that if you built the factory here, you
couldn't ship your product out. If you shipped them out,
you'd have to ship them out like three at a time.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Might let's just drive them there Exactly.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Every new Scout comes with about one hundred and seventy
five miles on it because we had to drive them
individually out and across the bridge and then load them
up once we got them across the subpar bridges.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Which makes me wonder. You know they talked about in
that story there's a lot of bridge problems in the upstate. Well,
does BMW have a problem with this? I don't know
if BMW is, Like do they have to re route
their vehicles for delivery, because I would imagine a tractor
full of the bmwsuvs.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Is not going to eighty five to three eighty five,
possibly maybe one eighty five. Then you're hitting twenty six
and then going to Charleston for that port, and then
they're going to go to Atlanta. They're gonna go to Charlotte.
So maybe maybe they don't have a problem because they
got interstate bridges. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
I don't know either, but I'm imagining that it even
on the major Like where's that list? We looked at
it one time, and I remember you and I were
kind of shocked years ago. I think they've finally fixed
it now. But like one of the five most dangerous
bridges or lowest rated bridges in all of South Carolina
was like four miles from this radio station, and it
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was like that overpass on twenty six that kind of
heads into malfunction junction, and we're like, holy crap, that's
like one of the busiest major roads in the whole
dang state.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
And then you imagine you're crossing that bridge. You're at
five o'clock traffic. Now suddenly you're stopped. You're sitting on
a bridge behind a semi. You're all just and you're
just waiting for that damn thing to cross. As it
says in this article, a bridge that crumbled into Lake
Kiawe well, they got lucky, maybe they could swim out.
But if the bridge crumbles on the twenty six below
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you you're gonna get t bowed by a semi coming
south or what are you talking about.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
It's a really unbelievable problem that we've created for ourselves.
And like I said, it's a compounding of the errors.
It's allowing the state to continue to grab more and
more control of the highways and the byways. And then
it's a compounding of the dots not effective, it's a
compounding of underfunding it. If you want to run them all,
then fund it properly. We spend literally the same amount
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of money, almost identical to Georgia, except, as I pointed out,
Georgia's got a third of the roads.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Now this line right here too, I want to go
back to this one. I don't know Rick Todd. I'm
sure that he's very effective in his job, or he
wouldn't be the President and CEO of se Trucking Association.
Now here's a quote that is telling. I don't know
if there was much attention to this before, but there
certainly is now talking about the bridge that crumbled into
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Lake Keilwe. So you're telling me the state of South Carolina,
with its banner Beast of the Southeast mode that we're
in to bring in businesses, has never actually had a
conversation with someone like Rick Todd, who is the CEO
of South Carolina Trucking Association. Trucking and railroad is the
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blood line. It is the lifeblood of business. If you
can't move your product, you can't sell your product. And
we don't have anybody like Representative Bobby Robbins, who's quoted
here Republican Dorchester. We don't have anybody talking to a
guy who's the president and CEO of the South Carolina
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Trucking Association about how to make sure our state can
facilitate the businesses that would continue to bend over for
and give them all the tax breaks. These businesses are
going to start pointing out South Carolina's a great place
to make a product. If you intend, don't airlifting it
out because you can't truck it out.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Well, you know, I'm looking at a story here. This
is day to June tenth at Wis House, Speaker Merle Smith,
who established the new South Carolina Department of Transportation Modernization
ad hoc Committee, says, the job is not to fix
the potholes. It's not to widen the roads. Those are
already being done right now. This is to build a
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foundation for the long term growth, safety, and opportunity in
our state. And he points out in his estimation that
the road system was built with probably two and a
half million people in mind. However, when you look at
the five and a half million people roughly who call
South Carolina home and the rapid growth of our state,
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now this is where I got my figure that we
have triple the roads. We currently have seventy one thousand
miles of state roads, being the largest road system per
capita in the United States of America, we have a
lot of challenges, says Merle Smith. Well, again, a great
way to fix a lot of those problems is let
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Lexington County fix Lexington County roads. They'll fit, they will
do it more affordably with less bureaucracy.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
And you know, look, and if you live in a
county where the road suck, you've got to vote to
make changes. But right now you don't have an opportunity
because your state senator, your state representative is saying, I'm
voting for more funding. They just got to tell you
what they're saying. I'm up there fighting for you, and
it's as frustrating for me as it is for you.
And then you say, all right, well, I'll keep sending
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them back. Look at again at the budget that Henry
McMaster came out with. He said, we had one point
six billion dollars in excess money last year. All one
point six billion should have immediately gone to bridges. Instead,
five hundred billion went to bridges. The other one point
one billion dollars was distributed to like ev manufacturer goals,
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you know, trade school incentives, tax breaks. I mean, he
had a long laundry list of things that he wanted
to do, none of which are really the state's job.
It's not the state's job in order to fix technical schools.
I know that they would like it to be. That's
not their job. That is the state. I mean this
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is things like encouraging people to go into nursing, h
working with you know, some sort of group of people
that are underrepresented, or what. None of that matter. I mean,
it matters, but it's not a state problem. The state's
biggest problem is the infrastructure is literally crumbling under our feet.
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And I'm not even just talking about trying to incentivize
businesses to come here. You shouldn't be spending tax dollars
to incentivize businesses right now because your roads are falling apart.
Your current citizens are at risk of death because of
your mismanagement.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
And he's saying, we may, Kelly, it's a state road
versus county road. It's still got to be graded. Then
it's going to have to have the right drainage, and
then you got to put down you know, in some
cases concrete. Then you're going to put down the asphalt
topping on. It may be a guard rail. I mean,
it's all the same thing. It's all the same companies
doing it. What's the difference. I think this is a
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perfect analogy for what the difference is right now in
Saluta County where for the past decade they have had
piss poor James Clyburn would say and agree, internet availability
certainly no fiber or very little and very little opportunity
for you to even use a AT and T line
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to be able to get the kind of internet speed
you need. This is why kids like James Cliburn said,
have to go to the McDonald's parking lot to do
their homework at night. But here's the thing. My dad
last Sunday, as we were sitting on his front porch,
said you want to guess what that third strand is
out there? He was pointing to the power line and
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I'm like, there is a third strand? What is that?
He said that spectrum? I said, really, why is spectrum
coming here? Comcasts just started laying down fiber on the
right of way of the road in front of my
dad's house, literally a tar and gravel road which has
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collectively one, two, three, four, five, six, seven less than
ten houses on it on a five mile stretch. Okay, now,
my brother tells me the same company that's putting down
that cable ran the cable down a dirt road beside
his house and turned right on another dirt road. Neither
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one of those roads have a house on it. So
when you get James Clybrom pumping eighty million dollars into
the state of South Carolina from COVID money to put
in widespread fiber optic cable, this is the kind of
stupid decisions they're able to make because they get paid
by the foot. When if you had someone in the
county deciding where that cable was going to be run
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and the expense it would take, they would choose better
routes and more efficient ways to deliver that cable to
the people of the county.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Yeah, no offense to the people running the Department of Transportation.
I mean, but you shouldn't have to manage seventy seven
thousand miles of roads. I mean, it's just insane. That's
your job. And I mean, how many miles of them
are highway It's probably like eight thousand, nine thousand. The
vast majority of the roads that we're talking about are
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these secondary roads. And the people who live there, live
in Saluda, live in Berkeley, live in wherever they are.
They know what's needed in their county better than anybody
else and if they can hold their local officials accountable
and they can make you want to make a rate increase,
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make a rate increase, say it's we're now charging x
amount of dollars here because of this to get the
roads done this way or whatever, and the people vote
on it, and there's all. It's now they're in control.
What we have now is just this we raise the
penny tax. Some would say illegally, I'd be one of
them back in twenty twelve, and that you know, since
twenty seventeen we've been addressing it, and it's not going
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very well. As a matter of fact, some would say
it's going the wrong way. We're getting worse roads. The
roads are Look, if you're just going to go by death,
the roads are deadlier today than they were in twenty twelve.
So I mean, I guess the results speak for themselves,
and what we're doing is not working.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
The most insulting of all the extra fees from the
DOT on top of the gas tax is that if
you move here from any other state in the Union
and you want to get a South Carolina tag for
your car because you're a resident here and you should,
and it's actually state law within a certain amount of time.
I believe it's four hundred dollars. Okay, I believe it's
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a welcome to South Carolina. Maybe it's two hundred. It's
a welcome to South Carolina. Two hundred dollars fee or
register your car here. How freaking abusive is that?
Speaker 1 (42:13):
Well? You know, and you I thought you had a
great insight. You were taking a leak at a truck
stop once. Wasn't it you who had that story? And
what the guy say the trucker he was talking to
his buddy.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
Way a matte. No, I'm not remembering this story.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Oh I could have warned it was you who told
the story taking a leak at like one of these
truck stops. And the guy was on his little headset
chit chatting with one of his buddies, and he was like, well,
I just pulled into South Carolina, man, so pray for
me to try to get across the state, because I
mean the roads are crazy, right right, Yeah, So the
truck drivers are asking for prayer because we're so freaking dangerous.
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Case you're wondering. In twenty twelve, seven hundred and nineteen
road deaths. Last year twenty two road deaths. So it's
just getting worse every year. We're going to keep killing people.
They're going to keep dying because the roads are falling apart.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
And the one that just brings in my head over
and over again is that poor seventeen year old guy
who died in the Upstate and the highway patrolman said
in his report, the deterioration of the road led to
this young man dying.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
Oh that was back when we were still doing an
afternoon show, wasn't it. So, I mean, that's one of
those seven hundred years.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
It just is amazing. That's part of the state record.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
The last seven hundred year was twenty fourteen when we
had seven hundred and fifty six. We haven't had a
seven hundred year since then. It went up to nine
to eleven ninety one, nine ninety nine, one thousand and
thirty six, one thousand six, one thousand and eighty seven,
one one hundred ninety five, one one hundred and twenty two,
so again not quite double what it was fifteen years ago.
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But we're we're we're we're working on it South Carolina.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
And I get it. Not every accident, it's because the
roads are deteriorated. I get it, that's true. I'm driving Columbia.
I see people getting much more aggressive, some of them
going to run off the road and kill themselves. I
don't care how slick the pavement was or how smooth
it is, You're still gonna have people who die in
automobile accidents. But the one where the patrolment said it
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as part of a state record. And then I have
people question me sometimes they say, didn't you say that
the General Assembly doesn't care whether we live or die. Yes, yes,
this is exactly the issue I keep talking about. They
don't give a damn whether you live or die.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
Look, I just want to make this I mean, because again,
to your point, people die everywhere. Right, So let's take
a look at some places where we're known to have
aggressive drivers. You've pointed out North. That's where it is.
That's where the people cut each other off, they give
each other the bird. There's a lot of road rage
up north. New Jersey six point five deaths per hundred thousand,
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New York seven deaths per hundred thousand, Massachusetts four point
nine deaths per hundred thousand. Let's take a look at
South Carolina twenty three point one deaths per one hundred thousand.
We're five timing it. We're five xing it. We're five
xing what they do in Massachusetts, New Jersey and places
like that. We are dying. We're literally dying. Is it
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because we're more aggressive on the road. Is it because
we're bigger drunks? You want to go find some drunks,
go check out in upstate New York.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
True?
Speaker 1 (45:24):
I mean, it's not that we're drunker, or that we're
worst drivers, or that we're more aggressive drivers. It's because
your state house made a decision forty years ago to
seize the roads, and every year they take over more
and more roads that they cannot handle. They love the power.
They're addicted to this idea that we got the juice
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while they are doing a horrible job and people are
dying at record rates. I mean, I'm looking around, look
at like the worst road again. I'm looking this. According
to the AI, all right, AI, the five worst states
in America, Wyoming twenty four point seven deaths per hundred thousand,
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Mississippi twenty six point two deaths per one hundred thousand,
Arkansas twenty two point nine deaths per hundred thousand, New
Mexico twenty two point seven deaths per one hundred thousand
and South Carolina twenty three point one deaths per hundred thousand.
You're in the top five consistently. Is one of the
most dangerous places to come to because as the as
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the poor truck driver said, pray for us, you got
it's not this day. There's nothing like this in North Carolina,
it's like it's like nine. It's nothing like this. In Georgia,
it's nothing like this. In Florida. It's South Carolina is
a flipping problem where people die at record rates because
of your lawmakers making decisions to kill you so that
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they can have some power.
Speaker 3 (46:54):
I don't know how to say it in Latin, but
we should change our slogot too. While I drive, I
hope listen to Catrick
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
A lot of these Afghanistans when they did get here
and get betted, they're no identification at all, not one
piece of identification.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Kelly Nash, there's no way.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
To bet these people, we think, Al Salvador, do you
think the government of China, Russia, Turkey, you think they're
going to share that data with us even if they
did have it?
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Y show, Well, can you imagine actually having a conversation
where you're trying to convince someone that the vetting that
took place under the Biden administration and you're going to
get interrupted right there so they can point out they
vetted them before they came into the country, they vetted
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them three times since they've been in the system, and
they continue to be vetted. How in the world do
you help these people understand what you're saying. They refuse
to understand understand it from the onset. The only thing
that we're vetting is is the information that the Biden
administration assigned to them.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Well, and also, you know, regarding the National Guard shooter,
that guy, according to the person who was supposed to
be kind of like looking out for him here in
the United States. He started raising the flag that we
got a problem here, that this guy's kind of going
off the grid. He's acting erradically, he seems suicidal, and
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nobody would do anything about it because he's one of
the beloved Afghanis. You know, I had two theories on
that guy. One is more of kind of in line
with the second guy who wanted to the Afghan who
was trying to blow up Fort Worth, Texas over the weekend.
And that guy, I think is probably representative of a
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lot of Afghanis. And it's hard to put yourself in
their shoes because we have completely different cultures. But it's
definitely not too hard for me to imagine that if
in two thousand and one a country came in and said,
we're which we did. We're going to fight the Taliban
for you, and we're gonna have you help us with this,
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and when we leave, the Taliban will not be in control.
We're going to fix this country for you.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
You leave to stay in your own home and your
own home country without the fear of being killed.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Twenty long ass years later, in twenty twenty one, and
they don't know Joe Biden from Donald Trump person, you know,
they don't know any of this stuff. They just know
the United States. The United States makes some sort of
I mean, think about it. January of twenty twenty, Donald
Trump is or twenty twenty one is leaving office. February
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of twenty twenty one, a month later, is when Joe
Biden brings US down to twenty two thousand troops. Just
what the flip is happening? Like all of a sudden,
chaos is ramping up. Now you've got our military leaders
actually talking to the Taliban saying, we're getting the hell
out of here. We're pulling out. You can have the
whole flipping country back. Now, these Afghanis are like, what
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the freak are you talking about? We were gonna we're
with you on this, like we've been. We've put everything
into this.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
I put my ass on the line for twenty years.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
So then we just grabbed roughly ninety thousand and said them, yeah,
random Afghanis, first people at the gate, and took them
back home. In the inside that ninety thousand. Just assume
that the vast majority are part of the people who
fought with us. Well, now their sisters, their grandmothers, their mothers,
whomever has been left behind, they're being raped, they're being
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I mean, all the brutality of the Taliban is back
in a big way. So do I have a grudge
against the United States even though you brought me to
Fort Worth, Texas. I freaking hate this place. I hate
your government, I hate everybody.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
What you did to my family. They're all dead.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
The other scenario I had is, like for the guy
from the National Guard shooter, they dropped his ass off
and Bellingham, Washington, which I looked up the voting records.
It's a sixty five to thirty five district, meaning sixty
five percent voted for Kamala thirty five voted for Trump.
That is about as far left as you can get
in the United States. Beellingham, Washington, there's very few that
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touched seventy there was very few. Seventy thirty sixty five,
thirty five is pretty much as dramatic as you can get.
Is his head being filled because they did say on
a lot of the Sunday shows he was radicalized after
he got here. Well, who is he talking to? He's
talking about?
Speaker 3 (04:29):
He asked that question.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Yeah, he's talking to the He's watching MSNBC, he's watching CNN,
He's talking.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
We're gonna be looking at his history in his own
line and his devices. We're gonna we're gonna find out
who he was talking to.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
He's look, he's a a he doesn't work for Amazon.
Amazon wants you to know that he worked for Amazon
Push or Plus or whatever the hell it's called, the
company that allows people to deliver Amazon packages with their
own vehicles. That's what he was doing for a living.
And so he's talking to these housewives. He's pulling up
to the liberal white house wives who are saying, isn't
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it a shame what's going on in America that Donald
Trump is using the National Guard to intimidate people from voting,
That the National Guard is being used to steal elections.
They're going to end democracy, They're going to destroy America. Well,
you tell somebody that if he loves America, then he's
got an incentive to go shoot National Guards people, right,
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because I've.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Already lived under that kind of authoritarian regime, but I
want to go back to it. Donald Trump's an authoritarian.
I'm going to kill at least a couple of members
of his military because he's using the military to take
over the country.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
In a threat to democracy, and in either one of
those scenarios, democrats are to blame. Yes, at no point
can you point to the Republicans and say it's their rhetoric,
it's what they're doing that's causing any harm now.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
And also then you've got Donald Trump putting the clamp
down on persons coming to the US from several different
countries he named specifically, and I didn't even realize this,
but he's a racist for doing that because all the
countries that he mentioned or countries of poor people, these
are poor governments. You know, at some point, don't you
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have to realize that the s holes that he was
talking about before, the s holes are not necessarily a
reflection of the ground. This is not a reflection of
their soil content. This is a reflection of their government,
the government that is currently representing the people. So it's
not that you're saying that the people there are for crap.
What you're saying is is that the people have allowed
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their government to run rampant over them. And to see
in the corruption level, will get into the corruption more
so later today in the corruption level, So you're getting
to the point where you not only have the corruption,
but you also have a group of people who are
anti American by nature. They tell you that every day.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Well, I mean, look at Afghanistan, right, So we're talking
about Afghanistan. Obviously in the news a lot with the
two afghanis trying to kill Americans. And so you're talking
about a country that's forty two million people. The Taliban
most estimates have it somewhere around three to four hundred
thousand people. So somehow you're telling me I am to believe,
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if I was to believe a liberal, that the forty
two million people are being held hostage by four hundred thousand,
that the four hundred thousand they're bad dudes, no doubt
about it. Sure, but you're telling me that of the
other because it's forty two point sixty five million people.
So of the other forty two point two million people,
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you can't muster up a group of men that would
fight back against this three to four hundred thousand Taliban member.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
If they truly disagree with their mindset in the theology.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
It would seem obvious to anyone that after twenty years
out of power, the freaking Taliban was pretty flip and weak.
Twenty years those people got bombed twenty years they were assassinated,
twenty years of being cut off from world funding an AID,
and yet the Taliban is still here because the people
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of Afghanistan like them, They want them, that's their party.
So get the hell out of Afghanistan and recognize that's
what they want and they and guess what, it's not
our job to take them into our country. This is
the thing about immigration that's just painful. There's the liberals
believe that because the United States is a nice place,
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it's our job to ruin it. It's our job to
bring in everybody from all these crappy countries and make
our country as crappy as their country. The United States
is a beautiful place because people paid the price to
make it a beautiful place. Your ancestors, my ancestors, maybe
even first generation people paid the price to go through
the paperwork, do all the vetting, you know. And then
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they always want to point back to the huddled masses. Oh,
give this, you know, huddled masses. That crap stopped in
nineteen thirty. Yeah, because of nineteen thirty, we started social
welfare programs. Before social welfare programs, if you got here
in the eighteen hundred, seventeen hundred, sixteen hundred, fifteen hundreds,
Welcome to America. Go flip and do something or starve.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
They just wanted to make sure that they had the opportunity.
That's why they came here.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
They really do. What they wanted was less government. Sure,
that's really what they all wanted, if.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
They wanted the opportunity to live their lives with less government.
And America gave them the freedom that they yearned for.
That was what the huddle masses came here for.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
But starting in the thirties, we started these social programs
and so then by the fifties and sixties were incentivizing people.
You come here. Look, it's tough, I understand. So we're
gonna give you a free place to live. We're gonna
give you food, We're gonna give you clothes. Now, we're
giving you medicine. We're giving you a freaking laptop. We're
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free cable TV. This is not it's not sustainable and
it's not wise because you're allowing people into this country
who don't want to be Americans. They don't like Americans,
they just want to live in America.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Now, on top of all that, do we have the
named source shit or are We still working on the
unnamed source that told us that Pete double tap Headseth
gave the order to kill two drug traffickers clinging to
the floating hull of a boat.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
You know that, And that is one of the more
bizarre twists in a story, because it wasn't. I don't
even think a month ago that we had two survivors
and I don't. And originally they thought they were Venezuelans.
What we found out later was one was from Colombia,
the other one is from Ecuador. They were both sent
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back to their countries after they got out of the hospital.
The one in Ecuador is standing trial for some reason.
The guys in Colombia, they don't see any problems with
this guy. There's no trial.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
They said.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
We investigated him. We didn't see any drug activity with
that guy.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
We bought a mistake, Yes, we.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Didn't see any problems with him.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
We slaughtered a fat a calf.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
But I don't know if we know who is claiming
that Pete hag Seth gave the nobody no survivor's order.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Boy, what great timing because you've got Mark Kelly out
there saying that these military soldiers have to be able
to recognize an illegal order well, and what they're describing
would be, according to the Geneva Convention, an illegal order.
That's amazing timing the way that came down from an
unnamed source.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
We are taking seriously reports of the follow on strikes
on boats alleged to be very faring narcotics, and we're
taking bipartisan action to gather information. So as of right now,
they don't have any information, and this is Monday morning.
But of course we got Chris van Holland is involved
with this, and Mark Kelly from Arizona. I think they're
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all part of this House Intelligence Committee.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
I had no idea by the way that l Salvadori
on Holland is being mentioned as what he hopes to
be the Senate Majority leader. No way. Yeah, they asking
that at the end of the interview with Jonathan what's
his name.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
On oh Jonathan on ABC.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Yeah, sitting in for George the Snuffhalophagus.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
I don't know what that guy's name.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Yeah, they ask him about that, and he said, right now,
I'm just focused on making sure the Trump administration, you know,
is you know, held to the guardrails of democracy or whatever.
His BS answer was but yeah, they he's being his
name is being banteed about as being the new Chuck Schumer.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Happened. I mean, you heard that over the holiday weekend.
Until yesterday. I can't imagine. I'm trying to Okay, So
if you look at the last fifteen years or so
of the Democrat Party, this is not the guy that
they're looking for. Because you know, it's interesting that I
was thinking about this over the weekend. I think about
really random things on holiday weekends, apparently, so I spent
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a part of my weekend thinking about the idea of
what the socialists did in America. First they got the schools.
Then they kind of indoctrinated a bunch of kids over
the last thirty years or so into the idea that
socialism is really a caring, loving way of taking care
of everybody in your country. Once they got enough of
them to believe it, they didn't attack the Republicans, which
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is I thought, you know, again, if you're not a
great strategy strategicist, I guess you would have done a
full frontal assault on the Republican Party. But they didn't.
They took it. They're assaulting the Democrat Party, and the
first ones that came across were to leave AOC, the
group that called themselves the Squad. They were basically funded
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by the Socialist Party to primary weak Democrats, and the
angle became they don't fight hard enough for the people
of the streets. We're the people of the streets, and
so they I mean, the AOC thing is legendary. I'm
sure it's been completely scrubbed from the Internet by now,
but there was a twenty eighteen documentary on her audition.
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I mean they're going literally and just having a people
come by, like bartenders like her, Yeah, come and read
the socialist lines that we have, and they picked the
I mean, look, AOC is like the Meryl Streep of Washington, DC.
She delivers the lines fantastically. She's an award winner.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
As long as she's not thinking on her own, she's
doing pretty good.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
She is fantastic at that in that role, and that
is a role now. But they're trying to take out
the Democrats. But this van Holland fella, he looks soft,
feels soft, sound soft. There's nothing about him to me.
By the way, do you see Corey Booker's getting ready
for a presidential run? I know he got married there
you go, Corey Booker, well known homosexual, had to get
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married over the weekend to another version of Rosario Dawson
who would not renew the role, didn't. I guess the
pay increase wasn't enough for Rozario Dawson to repeat that role.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
You know. I guess that when you look at the
fact that l. SALVADORI Van Holland did make the trip
down to see the Maryland Dad, so he's got enough
cred in that regard, and he does look like he
would be a moderate face. He's a white guy that
they can market as a moderate to head up the
Democrats leftist socialist angles. And he hasn't gone out as
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far as say Bernie, and Bernie's getting too old anyway.
But if you I guess Van Holland under that scenario
would come close to I'm trying to think of another person,
and you mentioned Cory Booker, maybe one, but you're trying
to mention and he's already making the push for a
new leadership Corey did. So you look at the availability,
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I guess Van Holland would be in for a good testing.
We got to come up with three. It's almost like
a roller call. It's almost like a cattle call. Again,
we're going to test all of these candidates to see
which one tests the best.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Well, i'm looking at they're actual scoring right now as
far as the most left, So Senator Sanders comes in
at number one hundred, he's the most to the left
that you can get. Welch Democrat Vermont, so both Vermont
looneys she that's number ninety nine. Merkley from Oregon ninety eight.
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Bloomenthal might not be a bad choice from Connecticut. He's
obviously very, very well spoken, gets on the media a lot.
Elizabeth Warren at ninety six, Now I guess we're saying
she's too old for the role. Then h for younger leadership.
I'm trying to think Mark to be older than fifty.
(16:41):
Let's see, can't be older than fifty. Well, then you
got Corey Booker. Corey Booker is a number ninety three,
so you're not gonna get any left in him. Padilla
from California. Now, Padilla is a great choice. Padia is
like in his forties, and Padilla also faked an attack.
Padilla is a good one. Then you get Van Holland,
who just seems soft to me. White House from Rhode Island.
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The guy from Hawaii Herono. Yep, Duckworth is a veteran,
and they hate veterans, so they're not gonna let Duckworth in.
Dick Durbin. Senator Smith from Minnesota. Who's Senator Smith from Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
That's not ringing a bill.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
They first got elected in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
That's not ringing a bill.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
But no, Senator Smith is number eighty six, coming in
above Murphy from Connecticut.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Then he's not a bad choice.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Wouldn't it be amazing? They could never let this happen,
but it would be amazing if Fedtterman got it. Fetterman
comes in at number eighty four on the voting records.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
No, he's already stepped out of line.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Think about that. Fetterman is further to the left than
like a lot of them. Klobashar, I mean the list
goes on that, Tim Kaine, I mean, all these people
are way more moderate than Fetterman. And yet Fetterman talks
common sense stuff. So the hot button issues, like the
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transgender stuff, Fetterman's like, we're wrong on social issues.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
He says we're wrong, wrong, regrets are wrong.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
But when it comes to just we want to spread butter,
we want to spend money.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Because we got to work on feelings around here.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Well that's always been there, their thing. Chris Cunhams came
in at sixty four. Chris Coons is almost a damn Republican.
John oss Off is fifty nine. Wow, Tester comes in
it for is Tester still around? He's out now, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (18:29):
He's out? All right?
Speaker 1 (18:30):
So that was the twenty twenty four voting record. Mark
Kelly came in at fifty seven.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
So now he's just a hope and a prayer. He
desperately wants it.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
But could Mark Kelly be a believable Speaker of the House,
far more believable than soft ass Van Holland. But again,
maybe he's too centrist. Now how about how about we
do this? How why don't we look the brother up?
We got Raphael Warnock. Interesting, now you've got a black
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man contemplate that one. But he's too religious. If you
got if you got warnock'n you got Hakeem.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
He's not going to bring in.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
He's not going to bring We finally got the diversity
we want, which is no diversity. So you're finally achieving.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
We're not is too Christian?
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Is there No? Is there no black female available for
this job? I'm not saying one. Well, anyway, the good
news is I don't think that they're going to win.
I don't think that they're going to get the Senate.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Well, we got to find out who, who called who,
who placed the order room, the who made the order room,
the double.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Down and again that I mean, the way that story
has just run wild. I know you were implicate kind
of like hinting around the idea of well, the timing
of this, it's just yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Illegal order.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
This is this is clearly out of a playbook from
Central Command. Somebody at the source of the New York
Times sitting in his office in Manhattan. Yes, just said,
you know what, will tell them that it's in illegal
order and see what they say, can we? And again,
who was it that said I'm trying to remember who
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it was that was saying this last week, But they're like,
this is what we do with the CIA in other countries. Yes,
when we're trying to introduce a coup, this is how
we do it. This is the playbook that we use.
They're doing it on us now.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
I remember that quote being tossed around again. Last week, Hey,
in South Carolina, we got a couple of things that
are kind of bubbling on the sidelines as we just
focus on and we will go into caveat sideline arguments
not arguments, but information that we learned today after we
read the headline after a South Carolina bridge collapse, tickets
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for truck drivers are skyrocketing and raising more concerns. Now,
you may or may not know that there was a
bridge and the upstate, and the upstate apparently has many
more subpar bridges and say the Midlands, but we know
that the one, the most subpart one is right here,
not far from where Cala and I are sitting. So
we had an overweight truck causing upstate bridge to collapse,
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and with that went another car. So now I'm suddenly
making sure that when I cross a bridge in South Carolina,
I'm not behind a truck because I don't know how
much it weighs. And by the way, the weight limit
is about eighty thousand pounds, actually it is eighty thousand pounds.
And I was thinking about what are the heaviest trucks
right now on the road that I see? Obviously gas
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trucks that'd be a lot of liquid. We're talking about
five pounds per gallon. There's a lot of gallons in
those big trucks automobile carriers. Those come into about eighty
thousand pounds. Anyway, we're seeing that more and more companies
are getting tickets. How much more like double eight Because
between twenty twenty four and twenty twenty three there were
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three hundred and eighty seven citations. According to this article,
it's a one hundred and twenty six percent increase in
tickets that they've given out just so far in twenty
twenty five. So we've had a lot more tickets from
truckers who look, if you get a ticket because your
truck weighs too much, don't plead ignorant. You should know
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that you're driving down the road of the truck over
the weight limit. Now, I thought to myself out loud,
as I use the ways app a lot, and in
particular with Sally because she didn't like to get on
the interstate, I will click it so that I avoid
interstate roads. If we're going to be going somewhere where
it really doesn't make that much of a difference for
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our timeline. That's yeah, driving to Camden. I want to
go not on the interstate, and I want to avoid
interstates and toll roads, and I was wondering, there's got
to be an app out there that truckers can use
to help them even pick out the best route, because
we know traveling per mile and a truck costs x
amount of money per mile, and that's going to affect
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the price of the goods caring, so every truck company
wants to keep their cost down as low as possible.
I literally did not know the answer to that, and
Kelly found it on the internet within thirty seconds.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Yes, there's plenty of them, Copilot, GPS, Smart Truck Route,
Trucker Path, cigik truck, and caravon hammer. These are apps
that truck drivers can use not only for their weight
to pick a route like say, like you said, I
have an eighty thousand pound truck, you can also put
in your height and then that way it'll avoid secondary
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roads where there might be a bridge that doesn't meet that.
And it will also update in real time so that
if there's a I twenty is closed or there's a
massive delay on I twenty, it'll show you which secondary
roads you can take where the bridges will be strong
enough to hold your weight and or make sure you
can fit under the bridges. So that's all free, right, app.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
You should never get a ticket.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
You get an app because you were trying to beat
the system and you were putting other people's lives at risk.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Now, the head of the South Carolina Truckers Association says
that he thinks that the DOT was getting a lot
of pressure, particularly after that ugly bridge collapse. That ugly
thing happening going at some headlines and they're under a
massive amount of pressure to start writing tickets. Well, again,
if you get an app that tells you how much
the load rate of a bridge is and how to
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get around it, because it's going to help you navigate
the lowest cost getting around that bridge without actually using it,
I don't understand where the complaint is.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Well, and the's funny thing is he's used the phrase. Look,
it's fair to say this is a bit of an
overreaction that's going on with the police right now giving
out these tis. That's an overreaction. I'm sure the DOT
got pressure, like quote, what the heck, guys, how many
bridges do we have that are actually in that kind
of condition where they might collapse. Great question, mister Todd,
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because according to the newspaper, they said, was it twenty
four hundred, six hundred, twenty six hundred bridges that are
in the exact same condition or worse according to the ratings,
So there's twenty six hundred of those bridges that might
actually collapse right now.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Now, if I'm a logger, there may be a situation
where I find myself cutting or I'm hauling logs out
of a forest for cutting down pine trees in let's
say Kershaw County. Now, there may be a scenario where
I literally cannot cross a bridge to get out of
this this dirt off the start roading onto a secondary
and then onto an interstate or wherever I may not
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be able to get there. That would be a major problem,
and the state should know about that because we are
how much money did we depend on, for instance, our
timber association a lot, So that should come into play.
There should be opportunities for the South Carolina Trucking Association
to actually have a seat at the table to talk
about how you can best facilitate the companies. Because we
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keep talking about we're the beast of the Southeast well,
if you can't get a truck filled with your products
and move it from point A to point B, then
you got a I ate your problem.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Well, I thought you also made some strong points earlier
on the rash thought when you were talking about what
about fire trucks.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
When you realize that twenty percent, according to w SPATV,
twenty percent of the bridges or sub would not allow
emergency vehicles. And they talked to the fire chief. There
are water trucks and even ladder trucks that can't go
over certain bridges. But thankfully he said, we're able to
make it around those bridges. It may take us a
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little longer. When your house is on fire.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Or you know, moms having a heart attack, Do.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
You really want the fire truck not to be able
to make it across a bridge. These should be things
that are brought into consideration when we decide which bridges
we're going to we're going to be replacing. And by
the way, when we talk about four hundred bridges they're
going to replace, that's a ten year plan.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Now four hundred that's all we have to do. Oh,
that's right, you said we have twenty six hundred that
we we're only going to fix four hundred and ten years. Well,
now maybe we look, I don't know. I don't have
it in front of me, so I know that this
whole project and I say project, meaning the funding for
this started in twenty seventeen with the gas tax increase.
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So we've been at this for eight years. I don't
know how many bridges they fixed.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
You know, in the last eight years. What has happened
is the ten year plan does it include the previous eight?
Are we almost at four hundred bridges? It doesn't really
matter because it should be an all hands on deck
type of situation once you start having bridges collapsing. I mean,
when most sane people think about what is the role
of a government, like at the state level or even
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at the federal level, I mean, but I mean it's
really about infrastructure, Like the thing like when Obama said,
you got you can't credit for that business. You didn't
build that road. Okay, I didn't build the road, but
I built the business on the road, all right. So
if you're the point being that, yes, the community built
the road, but I built the business.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
But if there is it's also pay tax, says, and
you pay personal taxes.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Yeah, so I paid for the roads too, Yes, But
the point being that the role of government. When we
say we want limited government, what we mean by that
is less social programs, more infrastructure, more safety. We like
a lot more cops, a lot more firemen, a lot
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more school teachers who aren't crazy, a lot more bridges
that don't fall down. That's really the role of the government.
When you look at Henry McMaster and what his budget
proposals were for the what he called the surplus, which
again we should never, ever, ever, ever say that we
have a surplus, because first off, you've pointed out how
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many times, how many was like a trillion dollars that
we owe in the retirement.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
A total unfunded mandates from the retirement fund.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
It's literally like five hundred billion dollars or something insane
like that. But then when you start talking about the
building of the bridges and the maintenance of the roads,
we're talking billions and billions. I wrote it down earlier.
What did I say it was? We had like we're
fixing the four hundred bridges, and it was like it
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was something like two hundred and fifty billion dollars or something,
because I remember think it's like two hundred million dollars
per bridge, like this is insane. How many billions do
we have to come up with to fix the twenty
six hundred bridges. It's more money than we have. But
I've often said, you know, and you've often said, the
closer the government is to the people, the better it
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will be. And this every other state in America does
something that we don't do. The State of South Carolina
has allowed the State House to just start seizing more
and more roads more and more. So currently we have
almost triple triple the amount of roads as Georgia. Now
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that doesn't mean there's triple the amount of actual pavement
and stuff in South Carolina compared to Georgia. Georgia's obviously
more than double the size of South Carolina. But as
far as state roads go, they're at about a third
of what we are. Because the counties run their roads
and the towns run their roads. Because if Jonathan Rush
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has a problem with not I seventy seven, but some
little road in Forest Acres, he can go talk to
the Forest Acres County people, or he could talk to
the Richland County people. I can't get a hole and
even if you have all these state senators that you
know is your best friend as a state senator, he's
still going into a state house trying to get the
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dot's attention to come and fix it. It's an impossibility,
and we waste so much money in the bureaucracy.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Can you imagine because the counties do not control their
own rugs. Can you imagine if we found out if
a county found out, Let's say Calhoun County found out
that they lost the Scout deal to Blythewood because there
were no bro You know, when you load up a
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truckload of Scouts about eighty thousand pounds. What happens if
Calhoun County found out finds out that they lost that
Scout deal to Blythewood because they had two bridges that
were subpar that if you built the factory here, you
couldn't ship your product out. If you shipped them out,
you'd have to ship them out like three at a time.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Might let's just drive them there Exactly.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Every new Scout comes with about one hundred and seventy
five miles on it because we had to drive them
individually out and across the bridge and then load them
up once we got them across the subpar bridges.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Which makes me wonder. You know they talked about in
that story there's a lot of bridge problems in the upstate. Well,
does BMW have a problem with this? I don't know
if BMW is, Like do they have to re route
their vehicles for delivery, because I would imagine a tractor
full of the bmwsuvs.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Is not going to eighty five to three eighty five,
possibly maybe one eighty five. Then you're hitting twenty six
and then going to Charleston for that port, and then
they're going to go to Atlanta. They're gonna go to Charlotte.
So maybe maybe they don't have a problem because they
got interstate bridges. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
I don't know either, but I'm imagining that it even
on the major Like where's that list? We looked at
it one time, and I remember you and I were
kind of shocked years ago. I think they've finally fixed
it now. But like one of the five most dangerous
bridges or lowest rated bridges in all of South Carolina
was like four miles from this radio station, and it
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was like that overpass on twenty six that kind of
heads into malfunction junction, and we're like, holy crap, that's
like one of the busiest major roads in the whole
dang state.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
And then you imagine you're crossing that bridge. You're at
five o'clock traffic. Now suddenly you're stopped. You're sitting on
a bridge behind a semi. You're all just and you're
just waiting for that damn thing to cross. As it
says in this article, a bridge that crumbled into Lake
Kiawe well, they got lucky, maybe they could swim out.
But if the bridge crumbles on the twenty six below
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you you're gonna get t bowed by a semi coming
south or what are you talking about.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
It's a really unbelievable problem that we've created for ourselves.
And like I said, it's a compounding of the errors.
It's allowing the state to continue to grab more and
more control of the highways and the byways. And then
it's a compounding of the dots not effective, it's a
compounding of underfunding it. If you want to run them all,
then fund it properly. We spend literally the same amount
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of money, almost identical to Georgia, except, as I pointed out,
Georgia's got a third of the roads.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Now this line right here too, I want to go
back to this one. I don't know Rick Todd. I'm
sure that he's very effective in his job, or he
wouldn't be the President and CEO of se Trucking Association.
Now here's a quote that is telling. I don't know
if there was much attention to this before, but there
certainly is now talking about the bridge that crumbled into
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Lake Keilwe. So you're telling me the state of South Carolina,
with its banner Beast of the Southeast mode that we're
in to bring in businesses, has never actually had a
conversation with someone like Rick Todd, who is the CEO
of South Carolina Trucking Association. Trucking and railroad is the
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blood line. It is the lifeblood of business. If you
can't move your product, you can't sell your product. And
we don't have anybody like Representative Bobby Robbins, who's quoted
here Republican Dorchester. We don't have anybody talking to a
guy who's the president and CEO of the South Carolina
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Trucking Association about how to make sure our state can
facilitate the businesses that would continue to bend over for
and give them all the tax breaks. These businesses are
going to start pointing out South Carolina's a great place
to make a product. If you intend, don't airlifting it
out because you can't truck it out.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Well, you know, I'm looking at a story here. This
is day to June tenth at Wis House, Speaker Merle Smith,
who established the new South Carolina Department of Transportation Modernization
ad hoc Committee, says, the job is not to fix
the potholes. It's not to widen the roads. Those are
already being done right now. This is to build a
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foundation for the long term growth, safety, and opportunity in
our state. And he points out in his estimation that
the road system was built with probably two and a
half million people in mind. However, when you look at
the five and a half million people roughly who call
South Carolina home and the rapid growth of our state,
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now this is where I got my figure that we
have triple the roads. We currently have seventy one thousand
miles of state roads, being the largest road system per
capita in the United States of America, we have a
lot of challenges, says Merle Smith. Well, again, a great
way to fix a lot of those problems is let
(36:05):
Lexington County fix Lexington County roads. They'll fit, they will
do it more affordably with less bureaucracy.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
And you know, look, and if you live in a
county where the road suck, you've got to vote to
make changes. But right now you don't have an opportunity
because your state senator, your state representative is saying, I'm
voting for more funding. They just got to tell you
what they're saying. I'm up there fighting for you, and
it's as frustrating for me as it is for you.
And then you say, all right, well, I'll keep sending
(36:35):
them back. Look at again at the budget that Henry
McMaster came out with. He said, we had one point
six billion dollars in excess money last year. All one
point six billion should have immediately gone to bridges. Instead,
five hundred billion went to bridges. The other one point
one billion dollars was distributed to like ev manufacturer goals,
(37:02):
you know, trade school incentives, tax breaks. I mean, he
had a long laundry list of things that he wanted
to do, none of which are really the state's job.
It's not the state's job in order to fix technical schools.
I know that they would like it to be. That's
not their job. That is the state. I mean this
(37:22):
is things like encouraging people to go into nursing, h
working with you know, some sort of group of people
that are underrepresented, or what. None of that matter. I mean,
it matters, but it's not a state problem. The state's
biggest problem is the infrastructure is literally crumbling under our feet.
(37:42):
And I'm not even just talking about trying to incentivize
businesses to come here. You shouldn't be spending tax dollars
to incentivize businesses right now because your roads are falling apart.
Your current citizens are at risk of death because of
your mismanagement.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
And he's saying, we may, Kelly, it's a state road
versus county road. It's still got to be graded. Then
it's going to have to have the right drainage, and
then you got to put down you know, in some
cases concrete. Then you're going to put down the asphalt
topping on. It may be a guard rail. I mean,
it's all the same thing. It's all the same companies
doing it. What's the difference. I think this is a
(38:17):
perfect analogy for what the difference is right now in
Saluta County where for the past decade they have had
piss poor James Clyburn would say and agree, internet availability
certainly no fiber or very little and very little opportunity
for you to even use a AT and T line
(38:39):
to be able to get the kind of internet speed
you need. This is why kids like James Cliburn said,
have to go to the McDonald's parking lot to do
their homework at night. But here's the thing. My dad
last Sunday, as we were sitting on his front porch,
said you want to guess what that third strand is
out there? He was pointing to the power line and
(39:03):
I'm like, there is a third strand? What is that?
He said that spectrum? I said, really, why is spectrum
coming here? Comcasts just started laying down fiber on the
right of way of the road in front of my
dad's house, literally a tar and gravel road which has
(39:23):
collectively one, two, three, four, five, six, seven less than
ten houses on it on a five mile stretch. Okay, now,
my brother tells me the same company that's putting down
that cable ran the cable down a dirt road beside
his house and turned right on another dirt road. Neither
(39:47):
one of those roads have a house on it. So
when you get James Clybrom pumping eighty million dollars into
the state of South Carolina from COVID money to put
in widespread fiber optic cable, this is the kind of
stupid decisions they're able to make because they get paid
by the foot. When if you had someone in the
county deciding where that cable was going to be run
(40:08):
and the expense it would take, they would choose better
routes and more efficient ways to deliver that cable to
the people of the county.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Yeah, no offense to the people running the Department of Transportation.
I mean, but you shouldn't have to manage seventy seven
thousand miles of roads. I mean, it's just insane. That's
your job. And I mean, how many miles of them
are highway It's probably like eight thousand, nine thousand. The
vast majority of the roads that we're talking about are
(40:37):
these secondary roads. And the people who live there, live
in Saluda, live in Berkeley, live in wherever they are.
They know what's needed in their county better than anybody
else and if they can hold their local officials accountable
and they can make you want to make a rate increase,
(40:58):
make a rate increase, say it's we're now charging x
amount of dollars here because of this to get the
roads done this way or whatever, and the people vote
on it, and there's all. It's now they're in control.
What we have now is just this we raise the
penny tax. Some would say illegally, I'd be one of
them back in twenty twelve, and that you know, since
twenty seventeen we've been addressing it, and it's not going
(41:21):
very well. As a matter of fact, some would say
it's going the wrong way. We're getting worse roads. The
roads are Look, if you're just going to go by death,
the roads are deadlier today than they were in twenty twelve.
So I mean, I guess the results speak for themselves,
and what we're doing is not working.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
The most insulting of all the extra fees from the
DOT on top of the gas tax is that if
you move here from any other state in the Union
and you want to get a South Carolina tag for
your car because you're a resident here and you should,
and it's actually state law within a certain amount of time.
I believe it's four hundred dollars. Okay, I believe it's
(42:01):
a welcome to South Carolina. Maybe it's two hundred. It's
a welcome to South Carolina. Two hundred dollars fee or
register your car here. How freaking abusive is that?
Speaker 1 (42:13):
Well? You know, and you I thought you had a
great insight. You were taking a leak at a truck
stop once. Wasn't it you who had that story? And
what the guy say the trucker he was talking to
his buddy.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
Way a matte. No, I'm not remembering this story.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Oh I could have warned it was you who told
the story taking a leak at like one of these
truck stops. And the guy was on his little headset
chit chatting with one of his buddies, and he was like, well,
I just pulled into South Carolina, man, so pray for
me to try to get across the state, because I
mean the roads are crazy, right right, Yeah, So the
truck drivers are asking for prayer because we're so freaking dangerous.
(42:49):
Case you're wondering. In twenty twelve, seven hundred and nineteen
road deaths. Last year twenty two road deaths. So it's
just getting worse every year. We're going to keep killing people.
They're going to keep dying because the roads are falling apart.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
And the one that just brings in my head over
and over again is that poor seventeen year old guy
who died in the Upstate and the highway patrolman said
in his report, the deterioration of the road led to
this young man dying.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
Oh that was back when we were still doing an
afternoon show, wasn't it. So, I mean, that's one of
those seven hundred years.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
It just is amazing. That's part of the state record.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
The last seven hundred year was twenty fourteen when we
had seven hundred and fifty six. We haven't had a
seven hundred year since then. It went up to nine
to eleven ninety one, nine ninety nine, one thousand and
thirty six, one thousand six, one thousand and eighty seven,
one one hundred ninety five, one one hundred and twenty two,
so again not quite double what it was fifteen years ago.
(43:47):
But we're we're we're we're working on it South Carolina.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
And I get it. Not every accident, it's because the
roads are deteriorated. I get it, that's true. I'm driving Columbia.
I see people getting much more aggressive, some of them
going to run off the road and kill themselves. I
don't care how slick the pavement was or how smooth
it is, You're still gonna have people who die in
automobile accidents. But the one where the patrolment said it
(44:11):
as part of a state record. And then I have
people question me sometimes they say, didn't you say that
the General Assembly doesn't care whether we live or die. Yes, yes,
this is exactly the issue I keep talking about. They
don't give a damn whether you live or die.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
Look, I just want to make this I mean, because again,
to your point, people die everywhere. Right, So let's take
a look at some places where we're known to have
aggressive drivers. You've pointed out North. That's where it is.
That's where the people cut each other off, they give
each other the bird. There's a lot of road rage
up north. New Jersey six point five deaths per hundred thousand,
(44:50):
New York seven deaths per hundred thousand, Massachusetts four point
nine deaths per hundred thousand. Let's take a look at
South Carolina twenty three point one deaths per one hundred thousand.
We're five timing it. We're five xing it. We're five
xing what they do in Massachusetts, New Jersey and places
like that. We are dying. We're literally dying. Is it
(45:14):
because we're more aggressive on the road. Is it because
we're bigger drunks? You want to go find some drunks,
go check out in upstate New York.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
True?
Speaker 1 (45:24):
I mean, it's not that we're drunker, or that we're
worst drivers, or that we're more aggressive drivers. It's because
your state house made a decision forty years ago to
seize the roads, and every year they take over more
and more roads that they cannot handle. They love the power.
They're addicted to this idea that we got the juice
(45:45):
while they are doing a horrible job and people are
dying at record rates. I mean, I'm looking around, look
at like the worst road again. I'm looking this. According
to the AI, all right, AI, the five worst states
in America, Wyoming twenty four point seven deaths per hundred thousand,
(46:06):
Mississippi twenty six point two deaths per one hundred thousand,
Arkansas twenty two point nine deaths per hundred thousand, New
Mexico twenty two point seven deaths per one hundred thousand
and South Carolina twenty three point one deaths per hundred thousand.
You're in the top five consistently. Is one of the
most dangerous places to come to because as the as
(46:28):
the poor truck driver said, pray for us, you got
it's not this day. There's nothing like this in North Carolina,
it's like it's like nine. It's nothing like this. In Georgia,
it's nothing like this. In Florida. It's South Carolina is
a flipping problem where people die at record rates because
of your lawmakers making decisions to kill you so that
(46:52):
they can have some power.
Speaker 3 (46:54):
I don't know how to say it in Latin, but
we should change our slogot too. While I drive, I
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