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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show. Jonathan Rush, you said,
good morning, especially to the fifty four percent of Americans
that believe burning down a police station is justified. Do
you still stand by those comments. I'm not going to
gauge in kimber News talking points, Kelly Nash. If you
hate cops just because of cops, the next time you
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get in trouble, caw crackhead Jathan Kelly Show. Oh my gosh,
that is so good. Senator Kennedy is always good for
a quick laugh. I love Senator Kennedy.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
He has the hottest of hot takes.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Now, Miss Bain, she's not going to fall into your
trap about talking about cable news talking points. Besides, some
of those comments that I may or may not made,
I don't ready. That's when I was a private citizen.
That has nothing to do with my campaign. Oh those
are just my real thoughts.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yeah, I was gonna say in the campaigning is that
when we get the real you usually not And for
those of you are not familiar with this, I think
by now, I mean I heard Clay and Buck talking
about it like two weeks ago. I mean Sean Hannity
yesterday devoted most of his show to this. There's this
candidate in Nashville who says, I hate country music, I
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hate Christians, I hate this town.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
She hates the bachelorette parties.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I hate the bachelorette parties. But she wants to be
the representative there. Yes, and then maybe I guess would
change the Nashville community to be more representative of what.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
She would like.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I guess.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Well, we know that Nashville's city council does not like
country music artists. They've demonstrated that.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Well they won in particular.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Yes, so anyway, and I don't know what the rub
is on the bachelorette party, so she not like this.
Is that some kind of heterosexual thing she's appaulled to
thinking of how does that work out?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Possibly, we don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
It could be a lesbian couple with their bachelorette party.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
But it's just steeped and you know the ugliness of
traditional marriage.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
If you've ever been to Nashville, you know there's at
least twenty bachelorette party groups within a stone's throw of
you at any time.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I think the businesses of Nashville enjoy them, Yes they do.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
So you try to AIRBMB people love them.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yeah, you're trying to subdue that. Probably not going to
sit well with at least those business owners.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
So and the big thing is, and this is what
MSNBC was all geared up about again this morning. And
they have been as Kelly minched for the past couple
of weeks. But now there's a big, big, big, big
focus on it. Only we only not talk about Nashville
seventh district if we're going to talk our Tennessee seventh district,
if we're going to talk about the double tap from
Pete double tap headseth. But nonetheless, they were talking about
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the fact that Donald Trump won district by twenty two points, Okay,
and now it's within a two point margin polls. This
is a bell weather for the midterms coming. So if
he only wins, if the Republican guy only wins by
two points, that's going to tell you it's going to
be a huge midterm. We'll start celebrated now for the
Democrats in November twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
I don't follow politics very closely. Do midterms usually are
they representative of the actual presidential votes or do they
often have just fractions of the amount of voters that
come out who are very motivated by something.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
You never hear them use that as a forward measurement
to the next presidential election. They just use it always
as a reference to the current administration. And that is
they suppose that Bell Weather.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I mean, just in my cursory study of political history
in the United States, it seems that midterms usually go
against who's ever in office, because once you've had a
year or two under your belt, you've done something to
piss off some group, and that group will then use
that as a battering ram to get the smaller group
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of constituents motivated to come out and vote against you
via the proxy of whoever this representative is.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
And that's why typically it is, as you say, an
opportunity for the most motivated of either party to generate
that to them polls and because it is not a
high turnout typically.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
And look, I don't know who I heard talking about
this the other day, Oh is Mike Johnson. I heard
Mike Johnson yesterday and with Sean Hannity, and he was,
you know, trying to encourage people to come out and vote.
And his point, I think is one of the most
valid points we've you could ever make that. If they
don't win the House in the Senate, then Donald Trump's
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presidentcy is an effect over because the Democrats have already
demonstrated to you in his first presidency that they can stonewall.
They will bring every charge they can think of against him,
They'll charge him for war, whatever they can do to
slow the process. And so you need to hang out.
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So if you're a common sense American, you need to
get out and vote in the midterms wherever you are,
if you have a midterm vote.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Now, just as a quick follow up, because I had
to laugh out loud yesterday we were talking about the
roads in South Carolina. I had no idea. But the
story is on WIS if you want to go read
it for yourself, because it does seem unbelievable. Jonathan's full
of crap.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Oh, you're full of crap.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
So I don't have the article in front of me,
I'll just paraphrase. So in Newberry County, I believe this
is close to prosperity. In Newberry County, there is a
particular four mile stretch of road that, according to the citizens,
there has four hundred and ninety potholes that some of
them have been repaired by the state. So they're not
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saying that the road has been totally neglected, but nonetheless
us the potholes that they repair, their claiming is not
a good job. So one guy said, do you dodgs
want to hit two so.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
More than one hundred potholes per mile? Yes, unbelievable, four.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Hundred and ninety potholes. And they're wondering, why just not
resurface the whole damn road?
Speaker 2 (06:18):
And what town is this again?
Speaker 1 (06:19):
It's in Newberry County. You'll prosperity the name of the road.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Could do you do? We believe that if we had
implemented our plan from yesterday, which is the same plan
that every other state around US uses, which is that
the counties run the county roads. We're the only state
that has the state takeover the county roads. Yes, the
people of Newberry County would actually take care of that road.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
I believe that their county council members would have already
heard enough from the constituents.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
And the thing is that if you're a representative from Newberry,
and this is what I was trying to explain yesterday,
if I'm a representative from Newberry, I already know about
the problem. But I got to convince the other four
hundred Maroons over here to then put pressure on the
DOT to take care of this. But at the same time,
the people in the upstate are worried about their thing,
and the people in the low country are worried about
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their thing. So how does DOT decide where to go
and all the It's impossible. That's why we have over
seventy thousand miles of roads compared to Georgia, which is
like nineteen thousand miles of roads, and we're half the
size of Georgia, and we're, by the way, we're spending
about the same amount of money. So Georgia, with their
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nineteen thousand miles of roads, also spending two billion a year,
we're spending two point two billion a year to take
care of literally what three and a half times more roads. Yes,
it's not working.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
You come off in ninety five coming up from Savannah,
and you come up in ninety five and enter the
state of South Carolina. Wow, you know't even have to
look for the sign. You know immediately when you've hit
the state of South Carolina. It is demonstrant, demonstratively different.
All right, So anyway, I thought I'd bring that up
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four hundred and ninety. That's gotta be a record. Although
we might have somebody else now reading that story actually
go out and count the number of potholes in a
particular stretch of road. How long is the road? How
many potholes you got. We might have a competition out
of this.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Can we win a prize? We have no money for
that either.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Now, for those persons who are following the upcoming gubernatorial
race very carefully, this alert went out and I had
to send it to Kelly just to make sure you
saw it immediately. Yeah, So Nancy Mace's senior advisor, this
is the article in particular I'm referencing for the Posting Courier.
Nancy Mace's senior advisor resigns urges voters to scratch her
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from the list in the South Carolina governor's race. His
name is Austin mccumben. Mccumben like suburban, but mccumben. If
you see the name, that's the way he pronounced it.
I had to look it up anyway. Now, he has
in the past worked with Nancy Mays what was it
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a twenty twenty two house campaign. He's worked on her
campaigns before and he was working with this one. Now,
there's a couple of different storylines just underneath the surface
of the headline going on here. One of them is,
according to some of the pushback from her campaign after
the announcement was made that he would resign, is that
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he was going to be paid by the campaign. I
think it's ten grand a month. What was it.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah, he wanted ten grand a month.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
As soon as they were able to raise a million
dollars in campaign funds, and then after that million dollar
mark was hit, then she pushed it back till March.
So there they're saying, you know, it's only because we
didn't pay. But it's much more believable that Nancy Mace
started to align herself with a pack that was sponsoring
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Ram Paul and also big supporters of Thomas Macy Massey,
who are critics of the Trump administration. And that's where
mccumben drew the line, he's very loyal to Donald Trump
and she is not. According to him, Well.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
If you go to his x account at Austin McCubbin
mccubb i n he spells it all out and he
said earlier this year, Nancy parted ways with her general
consultant because he was openly criticizing the president's Iran strike
and now siding with Thomas Massey. So again this year,
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Nancy Mace basically fired somebody for disagreeing with Donald Trump.
But the Protect Freedom Pack, which was Rand Paul's pack,
began spending money on Nancy his behalf this month and
I had no prior knowledge of that, and the campaigns
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cannot control the outside spending. I chalked that up to
nothing but independent activity. But when I talked to Nancy
last Wednesday, it became clear that she knew all about it,
which is a violation. By the way, I'll just side
side note that's a violation. And she had completely embraced
the Rand Paul pack. She told me she is now
directing a personal friend to fund a seven figure check
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to Rand's pack. That's a big illegal thing.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
That's a huge hurdle to cross that one.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
And then he just ends it by saying, Nancy Mace
is now unwittingly or wittingly a proxy for Rand Paul's
twenty twenty eight presidential campaign. This is the straw that
broke the camel's back. And then he goes on and on.
But like you said about the loyalty thing, I like
the way you phrase it when when you do it
in that voice, it's about lawyer.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
That's something she wouldn't understand, points out at Southern Man.
Unlike other candidates of the governor's race, Mace has failed
to secure early support from many of South Carolina's deeper
pocket donors. That is where it's gonna be interesting. Excuse me,
because there's gonna be a he said, She said with
the whole I directed somebody to give a million dollar check.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Oh yeah, it's hard to prove that to you.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
You're not gonna be to prove that. So they have
to go back then and not only discredit him, but
they have to draw a comparison in its contradictions because
he goes on. At some point they go on to
quote him. Mccovin didn't raise a dine for the campaign,
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but yet never showed up. He demanded ten thousand dollars
a month for his services and was told no, believe
it's in the state newspaper article over here where they
quote his message. Nancy, here we go. Good luck with
all that, the campaign spokesperson said in a text message
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to the state newspaper, Nancy Mace has stood with President
Trump since day one. Mister mccumben said it himself, quote,
Nancy Mays will be the most Trump, pro Trump and
pro America first governor in the country.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
This sounds a lot like Marjorie Taylor Green exactly.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
And apparently the fallout began when also a wrinkle, I'll
put it that way. I think this plays more so
into Thomas Massey having to do with the EPSTEM files
that she was pushing much like MTG pushing to have released,
and he did not like the fact that she was
not showing for loyalty. And there was one other great
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backhanded comment here about her being a Southerner. I find
that in just a second. So there's a lot of that.
He said. She said behind the scenes, who's not getting paid?
Who is getting paid? Is the straw that broke the
camel's back. What apparently was when she started the lining
herself against Trump because she was agreeing with some of
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the issues of Ram Paul and with Thomas Massey, and
we've already seen maybe maybe she's going to follow in
the footsteps of MTG and say she's not gonna run
she's not gonna run for governors, she's not gonna hold
her house seat. She's stepping out of politics.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Well, that had always been my thing. She was not
gonna make it to the primary. I mean, she has
been imploding for a long time. And it doesn't matter
which pole you look at, the Winthrop pole or if
you look at the Whig pole. You look at any
poll that's come out in the last year about Nancy Mace,
her negatives are higher than her positives. And that's among
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South Carolinians, that's amongst Americans. Americans don't like Nancy Mace.
She is a very unlikable person. And once you get
that unlikable above your favorable scores, it's almost impossible to
bring it back. Donald Trump never was in that position.
Donald Trump's favorability and unfavorability were about tide and still
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remain about tide. Not We're not for her. And I'm
looking at today, we got a new poll out where
did I just I just saw this new one today
from Wick. Where do they have her at today? This
was before the before this whole thing with the with
the with the guy, you know, backstabbing her. Right now,
let's see Nancy Mays is now down to fifteen percent. Yikes, no,
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I'm sorry even below that. My gosh, she's a ten percent.
So they had Alan Wilson at twenty two percent, Pamela
Evitt at fifteen percent, Nancy Mays was down to ten percent. Uh,
I mean she is free falling out of this race.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
He said, I'm a Southern guy. My ward's my bond.
It's not the same for.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Her, and she can't run for her house seat anymore.
That ship has sailed. So basically what you're seeing is
the ending of a career here in politics. I mean,
I guess she could come back in two years and
try to say that.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
You know, the whole pack thing is going to be
in support of ram Paul for twenty twenty eight, So
maybe she thinks she's going to come back part of
his administration in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Highly unlikely because Ran Paul is not an idiot, and
Ran Paul can find a useful idiot. That's you, Nancy,
but he's not going to co sign you for anything.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
It's also Thomas Massey. Massy will be floating in ram
Paul's wake.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yeah, I look, Nancy Mace has become a disaster. Unfortunately,
we're seeing a lot of Republican women becoming disasters. Lauren
Bobert disaster. I mean, they're all I don't know what
happened to these people, but they kind of go off
the rails. And I think that when anybody comes in
that hot saying all kinds of rhetoric, bumper sticker slogans everywhere.
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And it's true, you know, on the left as well,
although their voters tend to support that kind of behavior. Rockets,
I was just gonna say, Jasmin Crockett, AOC, you can
go through the entire squad. They like that type of
rhetoric on the left. The right is far less excited
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about it, although there is a fringe group that loves it.
Donald Trump's negative rankings amongst Republicans comes from the group
who don't like that type of rhetoric, which is again,
the majority of Republicans don't like the language that Donald
Trump's using. They like his fighting spirit, They wish he
didn't call Tim Walls a retard. They don't like that.
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There is a group inside the party that love it.
They can't get enough of it. They're making memes and
all kinds of things. But if he were on the left,
the whole party would love it. Right, Yes, on the left.
Just look at like you're a fighter, anybody like Chuck Schumer.
Chuck Schumer's been around for fifty years in politics. When's
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the first time you heard him say a F bomb?
It was probably about six months ago because the polling
shows they like it when they drop F bombs, So
they have. Yeah, So you know what, I got two
words for Donald Trump. Fu We're not taking it in
New York. They for whatever reason they think that. And again,
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if you're just trying to appeal to the base, you're
missing the point. The base of either side, the nagabase,
the liberal base, the socialist base, whatever you want to
call it, there's you're nowhere near you're You're you're talking
about like fifteen to twenty percent of America. The middle
is where the fights are won. The game has always
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been and I don't see it changing. Just go as
far right or left is you need to win the primary.
Don't go any further to the right than you need
to go. Don't go any further to the left than
you need to go, because whatever you say in those
primary fights is going to be used against you in
the general elections, and you.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Know you got to tack back because you got to
go pick up some independent somewhere in that void between
the great two divides.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
And then you're left saying stuff like, well, I just
said what I had to say in order to win
the election.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Oh, pretty much like a girl. Bain said, Yeah, that
was forever, gess, that was the last year, private citizen,
you're talking about what I said in twenty three, and
you're going to see more coverage in that all day
to day. And the only other thing they'll break away
from is going to be the Pete head Seth. And
now they got an admiral apparently that the pete Headscheth
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that said the admiral made the call. Yeah, morning Joe's
saying that Pete Hedge Seth was taken all the credit
for the minute by minute. I was live every second
of the entire operation. And he did that the morning
after on Fox News, Fox and Friends.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Lord, I was very happy that you yesterday the astronaut
Mark Kelly had his press conference, because yesterday that that
should put it to rest, because I know that there's
been this coordinated attack against Trump and Pete Hegseth and
this idea of illegal orders, and so they had him
on the stands yesterday and astronaut what say you? And
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astronaut why did you make the video? And he gave
you three talking points, and the first one was because
Donald Trump said on a debate stage with Brett bhar
that even if the orders illegal, the military will follow
what I say, yes, okay, well, you know, a good
time to bring that up would have been nine years ago,
but he didn't bring it up nine years ago. And
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then if you go and listen to it, what he
was talking about was waterboarding, and he was making the
point that isis is beheading people. They're not following the
Geneva conventions. And so you think that isi, what do
you think isis is saying about us right now when
we're having a debate whether or not we should waterboard them,
they're laughing at us exactly. So anyway, his way turned
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out to be the right. And when he's saying, they're
not going to refuse me, what he's saying is the
people in the military want to waterboard them. That's what
they want to do. So if they want I'm not
going to stop them. I'm going to say do whatever
you got to do to get the information out of them. Now,
I think as a country, we came to the conclusion
that they weren't giving us good information when they waterboarded them,
so they stopped. But that's not the reason why we stopped.
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The reason we stopped is not because it was torture.
We couldn't give a rip about that. When you're setting
people on fire, when you're doing these horrible things that
are not in war any under any manual, is this accepted,
then you're dealing with.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
ANIGIS doesn't have a pocket copy of the inn.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Isis or is Barack Obama because they were trans they
started as isis, then they identify their truth became ile.
So he respected their truth and he Obama always called
them icel honored. I'm going to honor that. He fought
with them his entire presidency for eight years. Donald Trump
got in and in sixteen months that was the end
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of Isle or Isis, or whatever the hell you want
to call it. Because whenever the new guy got promoted,
did he put a He put another rocket in his
pocket and that was the end of that guy. And
they said, you know what, I think we're all done here.
But then the second point was he also, uh, he's
talking about shooting protesters in the leg Other than Mark Aspi,
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there's nobody on the planet who heard that conversation. So
it's very similar to the he called people who die
serving this country suckers and losers, and.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
They showed up again last Sunday on NBC News, played
out there right, put out right as fact.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Yeah, Joe Biden ran his entire campaign on two lies.
One is he called bo Biden a sucker, a loserer, yes, Tucker.
And the other one is hey call white and frivous
good Papa and Donald Trump?
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Have you heard that?
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Everybody's heard it by now that they played it. He
specifically said, there's good people on both sides of the
debate if we're talking about taking down Civil War memorials,
but of course we're not talking about the white supremacists.
And then the third point, I'm trying to remember what
his third point was. I can't even remember now what
his third point was. But then he wrapped up his
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whole thing by saying, they reiterated. So at no point
has Donald Trump giving an a legal order. Venezuela is
not illegal, The National Guard is not illegal. Oh, that's right.
It was using the military in we're gonna run tests
on the American people or whatever. And if you go
and listen to this statement, that what he was saying
was I signed an executive order for the National Guard
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to move into these cities to keep us safe, because
we have to protect ourselves from the enemies within that
are trying to disrupt commerce. They're trying to disrupt the Americans
ways of life. And I told Pete, look, you should
study the best ones, the ways that we handle it
the best, and then we can use that when we
go into other countries as well. And we have to
squash these types of rebellions, but we are going to
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make sure that the Americans are safe. So when you
hear it in that context, it's not like he's intentionally
going out after Americans. He's not targeting Americans. It's it's
far less than when Barack Obama said, just because he's
an American citizen doesn't mean we're not going to kill
him without due process. The due process was we found
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intelligence that said he was going to kill Americans a
la acbar and so we went and put a rocket
in his pocket. And then two weeks later Obama killed
his sixteen year old kid for fun. I guess giggles.
I don't know why said it was a mistake, but
you know, why would you kill the sixteen year old? Well,
we did. But the point being that Mark Kelly defined yesterday,
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it's definitive. The astronaut has told this. Donald Trump has
never issued in illegal order. What we're doing in Venezuela
has already been co signed by Congress. It's already on
the up and up. Killing every person in a boat
is a proved by Congress. Right now, kill them all,
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Kill them all. If you are a happy fisherman who
happens to go into an area that we told you
you can't go into, you will die and you can
have I'm a free loving I love citizenry. No, it
doesn't matter. You're in a restricted area, and Donald Trump
told you yesterday airspace is now restricted. So don't be
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some guy flying a little kite up there, because you're
gonna get droned to pal.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
But again, Kelly, NBC News will remind you tonight. He
was only stating a fact, and it is a fact
that you should not follow an illegal order. That's just
what he said. Now you can listen to Kelly's ancillary
conversation about that all you like, but Mark Kelly's words
are clear.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
I mean, does Mark Kelly remind us of all things
like that? Like the speed limit in Oklahoma seventy five,
but it's only fifty five in New.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Jersey, But that would be good, like the public's.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
How about for poor Jonathan Rush who got a ticket?
It's there are no right turns on red in Manhattan.
We just want to make this public service announcement.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Thank you for your attention to this matter. Oh my
go
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show. Jonathan Rush, you said,
good morning, especially to the fifty four percent of Americans
that believe burning down a police station is justified. Do
you still stand by those comments. I'm not going to
gauge in kimber News talking points, Kelly Nash. If you
hate cops just because of cops, the next time you
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get in trouble, caw crackhead Jathan Kelly Show. Oh my gosh,
that is so good. Senator Kennedy is always good for
a quick laugh. I love Senator Kennedy.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
He has the hottest of hot takes.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Now, Miss Bain, she's not going to fall into your
trap about talking about cable news talking points. Besides, some
of those comments that I may or may not made,
I don't ready. That's when I was a private citizen.
That has nothing to do with my campaign. Oh those
are just my real thoughts.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yeah, I was gonna say in the campaigning is that
when we get the real you usually not And for
those of you are not familiar with this, I think
by now, I mean I heard Clay and Buck talking
about it like two weeks ago. I mean Sean Hannity
yesterday devoted most of his show to this. There's this
candidate in Nashville who says, I hate country music, I
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hate Christians, I hate this town.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
She hates the bachelorette parties.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I hate the bachelorette parties. But she wants to be
the representative there. Yes, and then maybe I guess would
change the Nashville community to be more representative of what.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
She would like.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I guess.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Well, we know that Nashville's city council does not like
country music artists. They've demonstrated that.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Well they won in particular.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Yes, so anyway, and I don't know what the rub
is on the bachelorette party, so she not like this.
Is that some kind of heterosexual thing she's appaulled to
thinking of how does that work out?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Possibly, we don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
It could be a lesbian couple with their bachelorette party.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
But it's just steeped and you know the ugliness of
traditional marriage.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
If you've ever been to Nashville, you know there's at
least twenty bachelorette party groups within a stone's throw of
you at any time.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I think the businesses of Nashville enjoy them, Yes they do.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
So you try to AIRBMB people love them.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yeah, you're trying to subdue that. Probably not going to
sit well with at least those business owners.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
So and the big thing is, and this is what
MSNBC was all geared up about again this morning. And
they have been as Kelly minched for the past couple
of weeks. But now there's a big, big, big, big
focus on it. Only we only not talk about Nashville
seventh district if we're going to talk our Tennessee seventh district,
if we're going to talk about the double tap from
Pete double tap headseth. But nonetheless, they were talking about
(02:48):
the fact that Donald Trump won district by twenty two points, Okay,
and now it's within a two point margin polls. This
is a bell weather for the midterms coming. So if
he only wins, if the Republican guy only wins by
two points, that's going to tell you it's going to
be a huge midterm. We'll start celebrated now for the
Democrats in November twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
I don't follow politics very closely. Do midterms usually are
they representative of the actual presidential votes or do they
often have just fractions of the amount of voters that
come out who are very motivated by something.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
You never hear them use that as a forward measurement
to the next presidential election. They just use it always
as a reference to the current administration. And that is
they suppose that Bell Weather.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I mean, just in my cursory study of political history
in the United States, it seems that midterms usually go
against who's ever in office, because once you've had a
year or two under your belt, you've done something to
piss off some group, and that group will then use
that as a battering ram to get the smaller group
(04:01):
of constituents motivated to come out and vote against you
via the proxy of whoever this representative is.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
And that's why typically it is, as you say, an
opportunity for the most motivated of either party to generate
that to them polls and because it is not a
high turnout typically.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
And look, I don't know who I heard talking about
this the other day, Oh is Mike Johnson. I heard
Mike Johnson yesterday and with Sean Hannity, and he was,
you know, trying to encourage people to come out and vote.
And his point, I think is one of the most
valid points we've you could ever make that. If they
don't win the House in the Senate, then Donald Trump's
(04:45):
presidentcy is an effect over because the Democrats have already
demonstrated to you in his first presidency that they can stonewall.
They will bring every charge they can think of against him,
They'll charge him for war, whatever they can do to
slow the process. And so you need to hang out.
(05:07):
So if you're a common sense American, you need to
get out and vote in the midterms wherever you are,
if you have a midterm vote.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Now, just as a quick follow up, because I had
to laugh out loud yesterday we were talking about the
roads in South Carolina. I had no idea. But the
story is on WIS if you want to go read
it for yourself, because it does seem unbelievable. Jonathan's full
of crap.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Oh, you're full of crap.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
So I don't have the article in front of me,
I'll just paraphrase. So in Newberry County, I believe this
is close to prosperity. In Newberry County, there is a
particular four mile stretch of road that, according to the citizens,
there has four hundred and ninety potholes that some of
them have been repaired by the state. So they're not
(05:55):
saying that the road has been totally neglected, but nonetheless
us the potholes that they repair, their claiming is not
a good job. So one guy said, do you dodgs
want to hit two so.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
More than one hundred potholes per mile? Yes, unbelievable, four.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Hundred and ninety potholes. And they're wondering, why just not
resurface the whole damn road?
Speaker 2 (06:18):
And what town is this again?
Speaker 1 (06:19):
It's in Newberry County. You'll prosperity the name of the road.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Could do you do? We believe that if we had
implemented our plan from yesterday, which is the same plan
that every other state around US uses, which is that
the counties run the county roads. We're the only state
that has the state takeover the county roads. Yes, the
people of Newberry County would actually take care of that road.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
I believe that their county council members would have already
heard enough from the constituents.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
And the thing is that if you're a representative from Newberry,
and this is what I was trying to explain yesterday,
if I'm a representative from Newberry, I already know about
the problem. But I got to convince the other four
hundred Maroons over here to then put pressure on the
DOT to take care of this. But at the same time,
the people in the upstate are worried about their thing,
and the people in the low country are worried about
(07:10):
their thing. So how does DOT decide where to go
and all the It's impossible. That's why we have over
seventy thousand miles of roads compared to Georgia, which is
like nineteen thousand miles of roads, and we're half the
size of Georgia, and we're, by the way, we're spending
about the same amount of money. So Georgia, with their
(07:30):
nineteen thousand miles of roads, also spending two billion a year,
we're spending two point two billion a year to take
care of literally what three and a half times more roads. Yes,
it's not working.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
You come off in ninety five coming up from Savannah,
and you come up in ninety five and enter the
state of South Carolina. Wow, you know't even have to
look for the sign. You know immediately when you've hit
the state of South Carolina. It is demonstrant, demonstratively different.
All right, So anyway, I thought I'd bring that up
(08:04):
four hundred and ninety. That's gotta be a record. Although
we might have somebody else now reading that story actually
go out and count the number of potholes in a
particular stretch of road. How long is the road? How
many potholes you got. We might have a competition out
of this.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Can we win a prize? We have no money for
that either.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Now, for those persons who are following the upcoming gubernatorial
race very carefully, this alert went out and I had
to send it to Kelly just to make sure you
saw it immediately. Yeah, So Nancy Mace's senior advisor, this
is the article in particular I'm referencing for the Posting Courier.
Nancy Mace's senior advisor resigns urges voters to scratch her
(08:46):
from the list in the South Carolina governor's race. His
name is Austin mccumben. Mccumben like suburban, but mccumben. If
you see the name, that's the way he pronounced it.
I had to look it up anyway. Now, he has
in the past worked with Nancy Mays what was it
(09:08):
a twenty twenty two house campaign. He's worked on her
campaigns before and he was working with this one. Now,
there's a couple of different storylines just underneath the surface
of the headline going on here. One of them is,
according to some of the pushback from her campaign after
the announcement was made that he would resign, is that
(09:30):
he was going to be paid by the campaign. I
think it's ten grand a month. What was it.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah, he wanted ten grand a month.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
As soon as they were able to raise a million
dollars in campaign funds, and then after that million dollar
mark was hit, then she pushed it back till March.
So there they're saying, you know, it's only because we
didn't pay. But it's much more believable that Nancy Mace
started to align herself with a pack that was sponsoring
(10:02):
Ram Paul and also big supporters of Thomas Macy Massey,
who are critics of the Trump administration. And that's where
mccumben drew the line, he's very loyal to Donald Trump
and she is not. According to him, Well.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
If you go to his x account at Austin McCubbin
mccubb i n he spells it all out and he
said earlier this year, Nancy parted ways with her general
consultant because he was openly criticizing the president's Iran strike
and now siding with Thomas Massey. So again this year,
(10:44):
Nancy Mace basically fired somebody for disagreeing with Donald Trump.
But the Protect Freedom Pack, which was Rand Paul's pack,
began spending money on Nancy his behalf this month and
I had no prior knowledge of that, and the campaigns
(11:05):
cannot control the outside spending. I chalked that up to
nothing but independent activity. But when I talked to Nancy
last Wednesday, it became clear that she knew all about it,
which is a violation. By the way, I'll just side
side note that's a violation. And she had completely embraced
the Rand Paul pack. She told me she is now
directing a personal friend to fund a seven figure check
(11:29):
to Rand's pack. That's a big illegal thing.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
That's a huge hurdle to cross that one.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
And then he just ends it by saying, Nancy Mace
is now unwittingly or wittingly a proxy for Rand Paul's
twenty twenty eight presidential campaign. This is the straw that
broke the camel's back. And then he goes on and on.
But like you said about the loyalty thing, I like
the way you phrase it when when you do it
in that voice, it's about lawyer.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
That's something she wouldn't understand, points out at Southern Man.
Unlike other candidates of the governor's race, Mace has failed
to secure early support from many of South Carolina's deeper
pocket donors. That is where it's gonna be interesting. Excuse me,
because there's gonna be a he said, She said with
the whole I directed somebody to give a million dollar check.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Oh yeah, it's hard to prove that to you.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
You're not gonna be to prove that. So they have
to go back then and not only discredit him, but
they have to draw a comparison in its contradictions because
he goes on. At some point they go on to
quote him. Mccovin didn't raise a dine for the campaign,
(12:47):
but yet never showed up. He demanded ten thousand dollars
a month for his services and was told no, believe
it's in the state newspaper article over here where they
quote his message. Nancy, here we go. Good luck with
all that, the campaign spokesperson said in a text message
(13:07):
to the state newspaper, Nancy Mace has stood with President
Trump since day one. Mister mccumben said it himself, quote,
Nancy Mays will be the most Trump, pro Trump and
pro America first governor in the country.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
This sounds a lot like Marjorie Taylor Green exactly.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
And apparently the fallout began when also a wrinkle, I'll
put it that way. I think this plays more so
into Thomas Massey having to do with the EPSTEM files
that she was pushing much like MTG pushing to have released,
and he did not like the fact that she was
not showing for loyalty. And there was one other great
(13:47):
backhanded comment here about her being a Southerner. I find
that in just a second. So there's a lot of that.
He said. She said behind the scenes, who's not getting paid?
Who is getting paid? Is the straw that broke the
camel's back. What apparently was when she started the lining
herself against Trump because she was agreeing with some of
(14:09):
the issues of Ram Paul and with Thomas Massey, and
we've already seen maybe maybe she's going to follow in
the footsteps of MTG and say she's not gonna run
she's not gonna run for governors, she's not gonna hold
her house seat. She's stepping out of politics.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Well, that had always been my thing. She was not
gonna make it to the primary. I mean, she has
been imploding for a long time. And it doesn't matter
which pole you look at, the Winthrop pole or if
you look at the Whig pole. You look at any
poll that's come out in the last year about Nancy Mace,
her negatives are higher than her positives. And that's among
(14:45):
South Carolinians, that's amongst Americans. Americans don't like Nancy Mace.
She is a very unlikable person. And once you get
that unlikable above your favorable scores, it's almost impossible to
bring it back. Donald Trump never was in that position.
Donald Trump's favorability and unfavorability were about tide and still
(15:06):
remain about tide. Not We're not for her. And I'm
looking at today, we got a new poll out where
did I just I just saw this new one today
from Wick. Where do they have her at today? This
was before the before this whole thing with the with
the with the guy, you know, backstabbing her. Right now,
let's see Nancy Mays is now down to fifteen percent. Yikes, no,
(15:34):
I'm sorry even below that. My gosh, she's a ten percent.
So they had Alan Wilson at twenty two percent, Pamela
Evitt at fifteen percent, Nancy Mays was down to ten percent. Uh,
I mean she is free falling out of this race.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
He said, I'm a Southern guy. My ward's my bond.
It's not the same for.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Her, and she can't run for her house seat anymore.
That ship has sailed. So basically what you're seeing is
the ending of a career here in politics. I mean,
I guess she could come back in two years and
try to say that.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
You know, the whole pack thing is going to be
in support of ram Paul for twenty twenty eight, So
maybe she thinks she's going to come back part of
his administration in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Highly unlikely because Ran Paul is not an idiot, and
Ran Paul can find a useful idiot. That's you, Nancy,
but he's not going to co sign you for anything.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
It's also Thomas Massey. Massy will be floating in ram
Paul's wake.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yeah, I look, Nancy Mace has become a disaster. Unfortunately,
we're seeing a lot of Republican women becoming disasters. Lauren
Bobert disaster. I mean, they're all I don't know what
happened to these people, but they kind of go off
the rails. And I think that when anybody comes in
that hot saying all kinds of rhetoric, bumper sticker slogans everywhere.
(17:02):
And it's true, you know, on the left as well,
although their voters tend to support that kind of behavior. Rockets,
I was just gonna say, Jasmin Crockett, AOC, you can
go through the entire squad. They like that type of
rhetoric on the left. The right is far less excited
(17:23):
about it, although there is a fringe group that loves it.
Donald Trump's negative rankings amongst Republicans comes from the group
who don't like that type of rhetoric, which is again,
the majority of Republicans don't like the language that Donald
Trump's using. They like his fighting spirit, They wish he
didn't call Tim Walls a retard. They don't like that.
(17:46):
There is a group inside the party that love it.
They can't get enough of it. They're making memes and
all kinds of things. But if he were on the left,
the whole party would love it. Right, Yes, on the left.
Just look at like you're a fighter, anybody like Chuck Schumer.
Chuck Schumer's been around for fifty years in politics. When's
(18:10):
the first time you heard him say a F bomb?
It was probably about six months ago because the polling
shows they like it when they drop F bombs, So
they have. Yeah, So you know what, I got two
words for Donald Trump. Fu We're not taking it in
New York. They for whatever reason they think that. And again,
(18:31):
if you're just trying to appeal to the base, you're
missing the point. The base of either side, the nagabase,
the liberal base, the socialist base, whatever you want to
call it, there's you're nowhere near you're You're you're talking
about like fifteen to twenty percent of America. The middle
is where the fights are won. The game has always
(18:54):
been and I don't see it changing. Just go as
far right or left is you need to win the primary.
Don't go any further to the right than you need
to go. Don't go any further to the left than
you need to go, because whatever you say in those
primary fights is going to be used against you in
the general elections, and you.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Know you got to tack back because you got to
go pick up some independent somewhere in that void between
the great two divides.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
And then you're left saying stuff like, well, I just
said what I had to say in order to win
the election.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Oh, pretty much like a girl. Bain said, Yeah, that
was forever, gess, that was the last year, private citizen,
you're talking about what I said in twenty three, and
you're going to see more coverage in that all day
to day. And the only other thing they'll break away
from is going to be the Pete head Seth. And
now they got an admiral apparently that the pete Headscheth
(19:44):
that said the admiral made the call. Yeah, morning Joe's
saying that Pete Hedge Seth was taken all the credit
for the minute by minute. I was live every second
of the entire operation. And he did that the morning
after on Fox News, Fox and Friends.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Lord, I was very happy that you yesterday the astronaut
Mark Kelly had his press conference, because yesterday that that
should put it to rest, because I know that there's
been this coordinated attack against Trump and Pete Hegseth and
this idea of illegal orders, and so they had him
on the stands yesterday and astronaut what say you? And
(20:21):
astronaut why did you make the video? And he gave
you three talking points, and the first one was because
Donald Trump said on a debate stage with Brett bhar
that even if the orders illegal, the military will follow
what I say, yes, okay, well, you know, a good
time to bring that up would have been nine years ago,
but he didn't bring it up nine years ago. And
(20:42):
then if you go and listen to it, what he
was talking about was waterboarding, and he was making the
point that isis is beheading people. They're not following the
Geneva conventions. And so you think that isi, what do
you think isis is saying about us right now when
we're having a debate whether or not we should waterboard them,
they're laughing at us exactly. So anyway, his way turned
(21:04):
out to be the right. And when he's saying, they're
not going to refuse me, what he's saying is the
people in the military want to waterboard them. That's what
they want to do. So if they want I'm not
going to stop them. I'm going to say do whatever
you got to do to get the information out of them. Now,
I think as a country, we came to the conclusion
that they weren't giving us good information when they waterboarded them,
so they stopped. But that's not the reason why we stopped.
(21:25):
The reason we stopped is not because it was torture.
We couldn't give a rip about that. When you're setting
people on fire, when you're doing these horrible things that
are not in war any under any manual, is this accepted,
then you're dealing with.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
ANIGIS doesn't have a pocket copy of the inn.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Isis or is Barack Obama because they were trans they
started as isis, then they identify their truth became ile.
So he respected their truth and he Obama always called
them icel honored. I'm going to honor that. He fought
with them his entire presidency for eight years. Donald Trump
got in and in sixteen months that was the end
(22:05):
of Isle or Isis, or whatever the hell you want
to call it. Because whenever the new guy got promoted,
did he put a He put another rocket in his
pocket and that was the end of that guy. And
they said, you know what, I think we're all done here.
But then the second point was he also, uh, he's
talking about shooting protesters in the leg Other than Mark Aspi,
(22:27):
there's nobody on the planet who heard that conversation. So
it's very similar to the he called people who die
serving this country suckers and losers, and.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
They showed up again last Sunday on NBC News, played
out there right, put out right as fact.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Yeah, Joe Biden ran his entire campaign on two lies.
One is he called bo Biden a sucker, a loserer, yes, Tucker.
And the other one is hey call white and frivous
good Papa and Donald Trump?
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Have you heard that?
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Everybody's heard it by now that they played it. He
specifically said, there's good people on both sides of the
debate if we're talking about taking down Civil War memorials,
but of course we're not talking about the white supremacists.
And then the third point, I'm trying to remember what
his third point was. I can't even remember now what
his third point was. But then he wrapped up his
(23:17):
whole thing by saying, they reiterated. So at no point
has Donald Trump giving an a legal order. Venezuela is
not illegal, The National Guard is not illegal. Oh, that's right.
It was using the military in we're gonna run tests
on the American people or whatever. And if you go
and listen to this statement, that what he was saying
was I signed an executive order for the National Guard
(23:38):
to move into these cities to keep us safe, because
we have to protect ourselves from the enemies within that
are trying to disrupt commerce. They're trying to disrupt the Americans
ways of life. And I told Pete, look, you should
study the best ones, the ways that we handle it
the best, and then we can use that when we
go into other countries as well. And we have to
squash these types of rebellions, but we are going to
(23:59):
make sure that the Americans are safe. So when you
hear it in that context, it's not like he's intentionally
going out after Americans. He's not targeting Americans. It's it's
far less than when Barack Obama said, just because he's
an American citizen doesn't mean we're not going to kill
him without due process. The due process was we found
(24:20):
intelligence that said he was going to kill Americans a
la acbar and so we went and put a rocket
in his pocket. And then two weeks later Obama killed
his sixteen year old kid for fun. I guess giggles.
I don't know why said it was a mistake, but
you know, why would you kill the sixteen year old? Well,
we did. But the point being that Mark Kelly defined yesterday,
(24:43):
it's definitive. The astronaut has told this. Donald Trump has
never issued in illegal order. What we're doing in Venezuela
has already been co signed by Congress. It's already on
the up and up. Killing every person in a boat
is a proved by Congress. Right now, kill them all,
(25:04):
Kill them all. If you are a happy fisherman who
happens to go into an area that we told you
you can't go into, you will die and you can
have I'm a free loving I love citizenry. No, it
doesn't matter. You're in a restricted area, and Donald Trump
told you yesterday airspace is now restricted. So don't be
(25:25):
some guy flying a little kite up there, because you're
gonna get droned to pal.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
But again, Kelly, NBC News will remind you tonight. He
was only stating a fact, and it is a fact
that you should not follow an illegal order. That's just
what he said. Now you can listen to Kelly's ancillary
conversation about that all you like, but Mark Kelly's words
are clear.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
I mean, does Mark Kelly remind us of all things
like that? Like the speed limit in Oklahoma seventy five,
but it's only fifty five in New.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Jersey, But that would be good, like the public's.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
How about for poor Jonathan Rush who got a ticket?
It's there are no right turns on red in Manhattan.
We just want to make this public service announcement.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Thank you for your attention to this matter. Oh my
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