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December 8, 2025 • 22 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Jonathan Rush Democrats who have such X ray vision in
clairvoyance that they know the intentions of narco terrists on boats.
Yet we're so blind to see that they had a
president for four years that was operating as a vegetable
in Joe Biden. Kelly Nash for.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
The United States of American Kelly Show WOC and it's
not getting any better. Apparently that was last Friday when
you heard Joe Biden speaking to an LBGTQ community.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
I believe, why does anybody want Joe Biden speaking to them?

Speaker 3 (00:36):
Now? Jo keeps pushing him back out there. He's got
to get back on the speaking to a brother. We
need to make some money around here.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Do you think that the LGBTQ community paid Joe Biden
to be there?

Speaker 3 (00:45):
No, But she's trying to highlight what a great speaker
he is, so he can come to your corporate event
and speak and motivate your employees or whatever. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
I really can't imagine anybody wants to hear Joe Biden
has to say, the fact that he continues to make
a buffoon of himself. It's it is sad that this
is a former president. Look, Jimmy Carter was a great man.
Didn't agree with any of his policies, but Jimmy Carter
great man, unlike Joe Biden great man. But even he
knew when to get out of the public eye. Jimmy

(01:15):
Carter publicly enough, kind of like Ronald Reagan. Ronald Reagan said,
this is it. This is my final appearance because I'm
losing it now, and so I don't want to sully
my image by talking. I can't talk anymore. You can't talk.
Joe Biden. I forgot, I say, we got it.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
I hate to say this out well, but it's impossible
for him to sell his image, can't.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
He got nothing to lose, slay with house money.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
And then the previous to that was a conversation I
forgot who the senator was talking about. The of course,
the boat people, the new boat people. The boat people
were killing, not the old boat people. Well we welcomed
to well, we kind of welcomed him to the Miami shresurse.
These are the new boat people, the boat people that
are doing like I don't know what are they doing,
Like seventy knots loaded down with all kind of drugs,

(02:09):
and it's just cocaine according to Subdemocrats. It's not even fentanyl.
So you said it was a war on fentanyl of
the cartels. This is cocaine, for Pete's sake.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
It's interesting how neither the Democrats or the Republicans will
address what I believe is the real issue here. They're
both kind of dancing around it. Trump saying it's a
war on narcotics, but the Democrats won't even push back
with what I think would be a great counter narrative
on that. If that's true, then why aren't we attacking

(02:38):
the boats that are coming into California. Why aren't we
attacking other boats that are coming up through other parts
of the Caribbean. We're only attacking one country's boats, Venezuela.
Why why just them? And to me, the answer is
rather obvious, which would be something that the Democrats in
theory would be celebrating. The fact is you have a

(03:01):
fascist who has seized power in Venezuela, and you know
in the last election they estimate he got twenty nine
percent of the vote. And then said, effet, I'm not
leaving inside that twenty nine percent Zuela.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
I'm not leaving.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
I'm not leaving, not leaving, not going anywhere. So he
you know, obviously part of the people who voted against
him would be the current military members. What I believe
is currently happening is we have the CIA and others
working with the Venezuelan military trying to find out who's
going to be on our side. We're going to figure

(03:40):
out a way as the United States of America to
pay for the Venezuelan military to stay in place as
much of it as possible, and we're going to take
him out. We're going to report we're going to have
a regime change, and we're going to install the leader
who they actually elected with over seventy percent of the
vote about what eighteen months ago now, and Madua's got

(04:05):
to go. And you would think that they would celebrate that,
but Trump's not saying it, and they're not saying it.
Trump says it's a war on drugs. They're pointing out, well,
you're not even getting the drugs that you're claiming to get.
You're calling after fentanyl and FENTANHL comes in through California
in Mexico, not through boats from Venezuela. He's not even
bothering to say, well, we got a tip that they're

(04:27):
going back, they're transporting it back down to Venezuela, and
then putting it out of we're just having this weird
war of words that not really making a whole lot
of sense.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
Well, we're still having innocent fishermen being killed and the
Democrats are outraised by it. And Heines told you this
is the worst thing he's ever seen in his life.
Was after the initial strike, when the two men were
clinging to what was then a plainly destroyed boat. They're
clinging for their lives, and they were waving I guess

(04:57):
to say, hey, come help us, but I guess because
they weren't wearing Maga hats. That's why we made the
second the second shot.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
I mean, if that, if that qualifies, is the worst
thing you've seen. And by the way, you haven't seen
that video because that's still classified, so they haven't shown
it to any congresspeople yet. Worst he's seen, I know,
but he hasn't seen it. He's heart it described possibly
from the Washington Post. I don't know how they would
have seen it. But I mean, if that qualifies as

(05:26):
the worst thing you've seen, then I can say, the
worst thing I've seen is that fake, unnecessary roughness against
the LSU quarterbacks. They kept us out of the playoffs
last year. That's the worst thing I've ever seen in
my life.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
And Kelly has seen the videos, like Hanes has seen
the videos of nine to eleven, you would have thought
he's seen something worse.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
And that doesn't even pales and embarrassing to this video.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
The fisherman, innocent fisherman, just trying to put food on
their family.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Well and probably mourning the eight other fishermen that were
blown overboard. Exactly, these to still clinging to life.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
They're going to have to feed their family, and those eight,
those eight other guys family sign languages, trying to make
a living.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Their sign language ring and sos to the Americans help
us in sign language sos. And then what do we do?
We put a missile in their face.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
I think the most awkward thing that wasn't the most
awkward thing. Joe Biden said that on Friday, I believe,
And then we had some interviews Sunday about the boats.
The most awkward thing was the interview between Margaret Brennan
and Omar when you could tell I don't know who
was more awkward if you go back and look at
that interview, who felt more awkward doing that? Because Margaret

(06:37):
Brennan wouldn't even look Omar in the face, and Omar
was just pumping out the biggest lines of BS I've
ever heard in somewhat understandable English.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
Well, I'm assuming most people didn't see it, And the
basic take on that was that Margaret Brennan was kind
of confronting ilhan Omar with the questions that were posed
by her guests. Just before Ilhan Omar Treasury Secretary Scott
Bessen pointing out the fact that there's probably been minimum

(07:09):
of billion dollars in fraud. Some are estimating as much
as eight billion. Now in just one billion one of
the one of the many MEDICAIDS fraud schemes that have
been perpetrated by about ninety six percent or so of
the people arrested in these fraud schemes have been from
Somalia living in Minnesota. So when the President says this

(07:32):
is a Somalian fraud thing, that's why he says it.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
What about the Caucasian woman who's the head of the
agency that's now being indicted. Okay, so Caucasian.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
She was there, and that was pointed out by ilhan Omar.
The woman in question was running this was that was
not this. This was the one that we're currently talking about.
Is the autism frauds. That's right, The one that she's
talking about was the one of the one of the
many previous fraud schemes. That one was the feed the
children fraud scheme, and that one was not near the

(08:04):
level of this one. And in that one you had
somewhere around one hundred million dollars stolen from the taxpayers.
But the woman who was running the charity was a
Caucasian woman working with who was described as the ring
leader was a Somalian. The Samalian was the guy who
ran the restaurant where ilhan Omar kicked off her campaign.

(08:27):
The man who ran the restaurant also donated max to
ilhan Omar. What we don't know is how much did
this man contribute to ilhan Omar's packs. We never got
that figure. So ilhan Omar up to her neck in corruption.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
Maybe she could to tell you that she didn't know
anything about it. He pulled the wool over her eyes,
much like he did the FBI. If it was true,
all of this money were gone, this money was being
funneled to some of it was being funneled to terrorists.
Then that's on the FBI, that's on the CIA. They
should have known that this is a federal government failure.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
That was another claim of Ilhan Omars that if in
fact it is being funneled to Somalian terrorists, that's not
a Somalian problem, that's an FBI fault problem. I will
point out that that all the people you're talking about
were the people working under one Joseph R. Biden. James
Comey would have been the first one, and then we
replaced him with what's his name, Dippy Do? And yeah,

(09:22):
Dippy Do, And so I mean we've had I'm not
saying that the FBI hasn't been incompetent as a matter
of fact. If anything, I would say that what we
learned on Friday was that the FBI has been the
most corrupt and incompetent, because they're either amazingly incompetent, because
cash Betel gets in there with his crew and in

(09:44):
eight months solves the crime that they had sitting on
their files for four and a half years, and they
did not make a move and he said, no tips,
no new information. We just read the files and said, oh,
it obviously points to this guy in Virginia. He's the
pipe bomber. Why didn't they solve it before?

Speaker 3 (10:05):
And I forgot to go back and look it up.
But I saw it yesterday during church. I only looked
at my smartphone because I thought it was a tax
from David. Otherwise I would have stayed focused on the
message from the Lord. But didn't. We have an FBI
agent who was actually indicted of Chorge yesterday.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Oh, I didn't see that.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
Sorry, I'd forgotten his name. I'm glad you mentioned it
because I completely forgot to look it up when I
got out and the Sunday shows had already been recorded,
so I didn't watch any current news yesterday, only watched
the Sunday shows in the afternoon. But nonetheless, and the
thing that you need to remember too, Kelly, or as
she pointed out to you and to me, I had

(10:43):
not considered this. The Somalian people in Minnesota themselves are
the true victims that was allowed by these perpetrators that
the FBI and the CIA apparently turned the blind I to.
Because the Somalians in Minnesota ninety six percent of these
people are in fact citizens of the US. And because
they are citizens, they're very productive, according to Ilmar, very productive,

(11:06):
and they are taxpayers. So the Somalis in Minnesota have
been victimized by these people who would use this particular
opportunity to steal money from the state, taking away money
that could have been used in the much needed areas
of the Smali community of Minnesota.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
Here's what I don't understand, Jonathan. Let's just go with
the idea that all that is true. All right, there's
in by ilhan Omar's estimate, there's eighty one thousand Somalians
that live in Minnesota that are for the most part,
ninety six percent are actually US citizens. We also know

(11:46):
that seventy five percent of those people are currently on welfare. Okay,
so you moved here to collect.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
So they're not productive, they're not a reproduct.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
That's part of the problem. But let's just go with
their Let's say all eighty one thousand of them had
a job, all right, including the because the eighty one
thousand has to include children and everything else. So there's
eighty one thousand. I keep hearing this narrative that the
governor and everybody else was cowtowing to the popular vote

(12:19):
count that these people are very powerful voting blocks. Amol. Yeah,
political pressure of this mining, all right, So how is
that possible? Because according to the twenty twenty four census,
there's five million, eight hundred and forty two thousand, three
hundred and eighty eight people so live in Minnesota. Eighty
one thousand control the other five million, eight hundred thousand.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
Because they call you a racist, they use the levers
of racism and call you out, and they have a
very strong public speaker in Ilmar.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
You don't believe the more likely scenario would be that
the five million, eight hundred thousand people who live there
are being victimized because the eighty one thousand are bribing
their top officials, like Tim Walls, like the mayor Jacob Fry,
like the Attorney general Keith Ellison.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
Maybe like the Caucasian woman that was involved with.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
The Caucasian woman who I forget her name is bought off.
She was lured into a Somalian. Look, this is Somali culture,
and you have to understand that there are cultures. People
have cultures. What are the Somalians famous for piracy? That
is what they're known for. They have long been known

(13:35):
as pirates. They will always be known as pirates.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
I'm the captain. I love the meme where it showed
the Minnesota Vikings. We're going to change their mascot for
the NFL to this Minnesota's Pirates.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
Yeah, Tampa Bay Buccaneers are like, are we the Vikings?

Speaker 3 (13:49):
Now?

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Like what just happened? It's great?

Speaker 3 (13:53):
Oh, you have to laugh at this otherwise you get
so outraised by the fact that it is. Okay, it is.
There's no way way around this. Look, this is the
thing we have to talk about, and there's no way
around it. The federal government, to a large degree, is
to blame for this, especially over the past twenty probably administrations,

(14:17):
because we've allowed so much money to be thrown around here.
We have very little, if any supervision, We don't have
any accountability for the most part. And when you do
ask for accountability, like Christy Nomes said, you get responses
from like twenty nine states, So those would be the
ones run by Republican governors, so you can only and
they even show fraud, waste, and abuse, so you can

(14:39):
only imagine how bad it is when the democratic governors
of these states decide if they have to, under a
court order turn over the information they're asking so that
they can find out how much money we're wasting. I mean,
it's just going to be an outrage, which is why
they got to keep a lid on this thing.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Well, yes, the thing about the Somali fraud in Minnesota.
As you point out, it has been going on for
quite a while. So I did a piece on this
about a month ago, where on excuse me, November two
thousand and one. Okay, so we're going back twenty four

(15:16):
years ago. There was a man who was arrested. He
and three other Somalians were running a thing, a scam,
a fraud where they were defrauding the government, and they
were sending the money back to at that time some
guy that we found out later known as Osama bin Laden,

(15:38):
and so the Minnesota taxpayers helped fund nine to eleven.
He was arrested and he was able to beat the charge.
And the way he beat the charge his defense was,
how could I have known that when we were sending
the money back to individuals in Somalia that they were
going to be the ones giving it to Osama bin Lad.

(16:00):
That has always been the pass through, So keep a
little for yourself, send the rest of the terrorist group
of choice. And that's what they were doing. That man
has now been arrested seventeen times for fraud in Minneapolis
since two thousand and one. He's on the streets today.
He is still doing fraud today. And who does he support?

(16:23):
Who do you think Keith Ellison is at all his events?
The Attorney General loves this guy. Who else loves him?
Jacob Fry? Jacob Fry. If you saw Jacob Fry eating
the Somalian food, that is one of the most awkward
videos where Jacob Fry is about as white as me,
and he's there trying to enjoy Somalian food and he

(16:44):
can't stand this stuff, but he knows they'll probably blow
my head off if I don't act like I like it.
So there's Jacob Fry, the mayor of Minnesota.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
How does Jacob to compliment the food and their language? Yeah, oh,
that's you.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
I mean he learned a Somalian And again we're talking
about eighty one thousand total people. I mean, there's there's
roughly three million people in Minnesota or in Minneapolis Minneapolis,
eighty one thousand doesn't even make up a couple of
city blocks. Why are they kissing the butts of the Somalians?
So there's so few.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
Well, this will continue, hopefully to unravel as we now
have to take a crowbar to get information on a
wall's office. All right, So, now, as we see, we're
about ten minutes away from the end of this podcast.
In South Carolina, we've got nearly a declaration of independence.
We're celebrating SC two fifty by recreating the Declaration of
Independence around here, well here being Lower Richland County in Hopkins,

(17:44):
where they've decided that they need to figure out a
way to Like Kelly and I've talked about a long
time ago, the best form of government is the one
closest to the people. So they want to govern themselves.
Does that sound familiar? Well, guess what, there's a little pushback.
Does that sound familiar? But we're going to breakout in
another revolutionary war near Hopkins, in and around.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
Are they going to get themselves some muskets down there
in Hopkins? Look, here's the situation in Hopkins. They tried
this back in nineteen seventy seven to declare themselves a town.
They lost that bid Columbia does not want to give
up Hopkins because Hopkins, as Jonathan discovered this morning, it's

(18:26):
just a place.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
I didn't even know. I know, we had determinations of
cities and towns. I didn't realize that you could actually
be a place. That's what you're listed as, a place
that's all Hopkins, not even a community, just a place.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
And apparently a lot of the people who live in Hopkins,
I'll say, the community leaders in Hopkins feel like they're
not getting their money's worth out of the City of Columbia.
We're paying taxes to Columbia in Richmond County, but we
don't feel like Hopkins is being used to its best potential.
And they point out a couple of different roads in

(19:01):
Hopkins that they believe they can develop and they could
bring in hundreds of millions of at least tens of
millions of dollars for the area, and that has been
met with a don't really care and indifference by the
City of Columbia.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
So I'm hearing another ringing historical moment. So you're saying
this taxation without full representation, Well.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
You're not representing my interests. We have one person right
that I forget the lady's name now who represents Hopkins.
But she doesn't just represent Hopkins. She represents all of
Richland County, Lower Richland, in parts of northern Richland County,
which is kind of weird the way they drew it. Basically,
I'm guessing some unincorporated areas. It's a hodgepodge of maybe
it's been jerrymandered that way. But she is just one

(19:47):
person on the county council and there's a bunch of
others that continue to vote her down, I'm guessing, or
maybe she's not even voting in their best interest in Hopkins.
But there's not enough voters in Hopkins to make a
hill of beans difference. But they do you meet the
criteria in the sense that do you have more than
three hundred people per mile? Yes, we do. They've been

(20:09):
they've already elected themselves, they had they paid for and
had their own elections in Hopkins that had them hired
a mayor. They've got themselves a town council. They're just
waiting for the State of South Carolina to say, Okay, Hopkins,
you can be a town, and they're ready to go.
They're ready to hire a police Department. They're ready to

(20:29):
do all the things necessary to be a town and
because they're not being represented the way they want to be.
I love Hopkins is in the fight. I didn't realize
that was it. James Island was it was a place
in Charleston, in the North Charleston in nineteen seventy three
had to fight for its independence from Charleston. It was

(20:50):
just part of Charleston. In nineteen seventy three they were
able to break free from Can you imagine how much
power Charleston would have if they owned North Charleston right now? Yeah,
you couldn't tell Charleston what to do.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
So as we get rid of to celebrate SC two fifty,
this should be one of the things we celebrate most
South Carolinians fighting to be able to determine for their
own community how money should be spent. As we see
other thankfully General Assembly members now starting to push for
counties in particular. Now, this wouldn't include their availability. Maybe

(21:24):
would I don't know, for counties to be able to
take over some of the facilities like the roads. Wouldn't
it be better if the people were fully represented by
a town council. If that's the case, and Mayor elect
Clemens Stucker because he could help make sure that the
persons who are doing most of the living and the dying,

(21:44):
and the paying and the bills around here, the quote
a wonderful life, are being actually represented by their neighbors,
their community members that they found most competent to serve them.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
I do like the way he says here. He believes
the development opportunities that were looking out on Bluff Road
would provide revenue for our new town without quote excessive
taxes being placed upon the citizens. So you actually get
yourself with a little tax decrease.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
You're going against the grain already. I'm going to be
received well by then King Charles, and now King King Benjamin,
and King Wilson or Queen Wilson.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
What about King Rickerman?

Speaker 3 (22:25):
Uh right, King Rickerman and Queen Theresa Wilson. We're not
going to cut off the flow of the taxation. We're
doing our bestis over here.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Do you think that you think that this new fancy
food court we built this free.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
Have I got to go to the new fantasy food
court over at Bull Street?

Speaker 1 (22:44):
Do you think Bull Street projects paying for itself?

Speaker 3 (22:47):
Exactly
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