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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show. Jonathan Rush.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
One of the arguments that I hear is somehow that
the ACA made healthcare more.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Expensive Kelly Nash.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Since Obamacare was fully implemented in twenty fourteen, healthcare premiums
have risen one hundred and twenty nine percent, over three
times the rate of inflation.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
The Jonathan and Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Boy, is there a deechasm of understanding? Is described there
by Democrat House Member Maggie Hassen the so called expenses
in healthcare, pointing back to the ACA, Jeff Andrew and
other Republicans, And we'll speak to one of those Republicans
coming up in a minute, plainly making the point that
the Affordable Healthcare Act was not so affordable after all.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Yeah, it's it is the UCA Unaffordable Care Act, and
it's exploding costs. Interesting strategy by the Republicans to not
just take the easy path off, as Jonathan Alway says,
take the pressure off. They could have easily just passed
the subsidies and said let him ride for another year,
we'll deal with them in the fall. But Donald Trump
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and the Republicans say we're going to fix it, right
now I hope they can get this handled before the midterms.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Well, we're going to have an opportunity to speak with
one of our delegates to the US House Representatives, Joe Wilson,
coming up in just a second. Also on this program,
we're going to revisit EO Ruins of Fairfield County with
a revisited plan now with Brookfield and Sante Cooper.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Now, is this just like the same band with a
different name.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I don't know. We'll talk about it. Also, we'll speak
speaking with Sheriff Leon lot Boy. They were catching hell
over the past week from local media and social media and.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Apparently given some out as well. They give as good
as they get.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
All that's coming up, and we start with Congressman Joe Wilson.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
And jan Keilly. Great to be with you. Of all things,
we actually did something really good and that was the
passage of the Nets of Defense Authorization Act. This has
much positive implications for our defense. It really is fulfilling
President Trump's wish and dream ambition of peace to strength.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Well, let's talk specifically about South Carolina because we have
so many military installations here and other US defense sites.
Tell me how this affects our state.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
It's really positive for Jackson and that it enhances different
benefits for our military members, and as we have the
initial entry facility there, and then with the Savanna Riversite,
I'm the only member of Congress who's actually worked at
the Savanna Riversite, and I'm very grateful that the Oltonium
two site solution now is firmly in place, which enhances
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nuclear defense capabilities and also other missions will be implemented.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Congressman Joe Wilson with us this morning, and as we
head into the winter break here and all of a sudden,
twenty twenty six will be upon us. A lot of
Americans concerned about the Obamacare subsidies. We just heard yesterday
that the government, through Mike Johnson, he told us this
story that there was twenty five attempts by government officials
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to get Obamacare using what they knew were fraudulent applications
without Social Security numbers and anything. But twenty four of
the twenty five were approved and started receiving Obamacare. So,
I mean, this is just a program that's ripe with fraud.
How are the Republicans going to address this issue? You think?
Going into twenty twenty six You're absolutely right.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
It says the fraud or misused. And additionally, to me,
when they talk about Obamacare subsidies, what they're saying is
something that they laughed about, the Democrats, and that is
Obamacare would not work, and then of course people didn't
sign up, and then they had to come up with
during COVID, and COVID was used for so many initiatives
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to grow government that now should be reversed. This is
one of them. And my view is that the subsidies
are in a mission against self interest by Democrats that
the system doesn't work. Now, hey, Jonathan Kello, we know
how they can make the system work. You just keep
throwing more money in, more money, more money, and then
you ultimately, as bargain that just said about socialism, only
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run out of other people's money and the system collapsed.
And so to me, we need to change significantly. There
are initiatives by Mike Johnson, by Centercassidy of Louisiana, and
we need to replace Obamacare because indeed, the whole point
of it, I believe, was to make people dependent on government.
I don't want dependency. I want people to have a
fulfilling life.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
In hindsight, now and pollings that have followed since the
government shut down, most Americans agree Republicans stood their ground
on principle, and you actually won over the perception of
who was right or wrong. But this time with the
argument over Obamacare extensions on the like, you're going to
have people impacted in their daily budget, even people that
aren't on ACA programs. So this is a little more
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tedious as you go into this conversation by the end
of January, and.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Jonathan, you're right again, except to me, since Obamacare A,
healthcare costs have gone up late ninety percent, so this
needs to be adjusted. And another fact that's really startling
is that we spend life three time times as much
as any other country on healthcare. I truly believe going
to a free market where there's competition, where there's a
disclosure of what the costs of tests are or treatments are,
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and then give the individual the opportunity to choose whether
they would like to have a particular procedure or not,
and then we know what they're trying to do is
get the socialist system, which actually should be defined as
delay and deny, with the government delaying and denying services.
As we see around the world, and we've got the
best healthcare system Gouds. Think of the hospitals that we
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have across the Midlands, I mean, they're just world class.
I believe that if we had a pre market system,
it would ultimately reduce the cost.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
We're talking with Congressman Joe Wilson, your friend James Comer,
the House Oversight and Accountability Committee chairperson, yesterday talked about
Tim Walls and how serious the fraud in Minnesota is.
How does this play out in your mind? I'm not
saying this is what's going to happen. Does Tim Walls ever?
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I mean, does he end up in front is he
going to get a subpoena? Is he going to end
up in front of a committee? Is he going to
end up in jail? What do you think? And what's
going to happen with ilhan Omar? Is she going to
be censured? Is she going to be in some sort
of legal troubles? Where do you see this going?
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Indeed, Term and Comber is a persistent individual, as we've seen,
and to bring out the truth. I really think that
the hearings will be sufficient to raise a very significant issue,
and that is that in so many of the Democrat states.
There is no oversight at all to the different welfare programs.
And it's inconceivable to me that in Los Angeles that
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there are over a million people on food stamp. That's
inconceivable because with housing costs beginning at five hundred thousand
dollars or whatever, if you can make a house payment,
my gosh, I used to be able to buy food.
But the bottom line is, we want people to have jobs.
We want to create jobs, We want to have people
have opportunity. But the people who believe in big government,
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they want the most people dependent on government to vote
for bigger government. And those of us are Republicans who
want limited government, expanded freedom. We want people to on
their own enjoy life, have meaningful life, and not be
dependent on government programs and have the spectacle that's coming
up soon of banning the ability and I appreciate Governor
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and mcmask for doing this, banning the sale of snickers
with foodstamps, which is symbolic of again where there should
be accountability. We want to help people with nutrition, not
really promote prominent dependency.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
All right, Now, that interview was edited only because of
the time restraints of this program. You could hear the
complete interview on our podcast. We put those up Monday
through Thursday.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Just look for the rast podcast on the iHeartRadio app
coming up.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
In just a second. Let's go back to Fairfield County
and take a look at the smoldering ruins and see
if we can see the phoenix rising from the ashes.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Next Jonathan and Kelly Showa.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
Rush Ernie Texas Blue is what I want to talk
to y'all about today. There are those that say, ain't
no way, We didn't try it fifty kinds of ways,
Kelly Nash, y'all ain't never tried it the JC way.
So I just want to be clear for all the
haters in the back listen up real loud.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
We gonna get this thing done.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Yow oh, I get it.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
It's kind of like the argument for socialism. Y'all just
haven't done it right. Like Bernie Sanders told you, you
got to do it the JC way. If you want
to flip Texas Blue.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
I mean, what is the JC way? Does she explain?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
She didn't explain that yet, but she's gonna, she said,
all the haters, I got a couple of questions, what
is the JC way? And all the haters listen up loud. Now,
is there an adjustment that I can make to hear
without using hearing aids? Maybe? I don't know. I got
a little confused by her announcement.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Again, we are haters, apparently, And so look, if you're
a Democrat right now, you have to be asking yourself.
I would think, are we no longer a serious party?
Have we just become just this joke of a party
where she's a Senate candidate. I mean, it was bad
enough with she was a House member. The fact that
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she's going to be trying to represent your state as
one of only two people in this state. And again,
the Senate is where the serious, mature side of statesmanship happens.
The House is a little more.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Freestyle, right, the most deliberated body on the face of
the earth, the US Senate, has to have JC to
add to the conversation.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
The maturity of JC.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
And did you ever see anything where Tim Scott and
the Senate Finance Committee actually took any credit for this?
Because I heard somebody making a big deal out of
Tim Scott needs to be saluted for his efforts to
put together disaster turf effort that lured her in with
their polling manipulation that she even quoted in her announcement
that she was going to run for the Senate.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
I haven't heard anything about that, but it's not a
surprise to me that JC or Jasmine Crockett would poll well. Again,
the people that are responding to the polls are usually
the most passionate people out there and mostly low information voters.
So you're very passionate and your low information. That's the
perfect combination for socialism and just chaotic politics.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Well, i'd love to find out whether we should be
saluting Tim Scott for his efforts through his Finance committee
on the Senate side, But nonetheless, we don't have that
confirmed yet. So well noted that is not confirmed. That
was only mentioned in a newscast. Hey, coming up still,
we're going to be talking to Sheriff Leon Lott about
a lot of things mentioned in a newscast here in
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South Carolina. That'll be in segment four. And boy, there
were I don't think there was a news media outlet
that didn't pick up this story. San T. Cooper has
an agreement. It is a memorandum of understanding two point
seven billion for the unfinished reactors at the VC Summer
plant in Fairfield County. Now that's great news if you're
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a rate payer. Not bad news if you're a taxpayer,
but certainly great news for ratepayers. For Santee Cooper.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Uh yeah, it doesn't get you out of the two
holes that have been dug, but it gets you a
lot closer to being out of the holes because it's
a three billion dollar debt that you currently have, so
now you just know a three hundred million So that's
the good news that should be paid off relatively quickly,
you would think. At the same time, you're going to
keep twenty five percent ownership of the nuclear facility, so
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it comes online in twenty thirty, about twenty five percent
of that energy will be available for you know, the
people here in South Carolina, which is fantastic because we
are desperately going to need more and more energy. Is
we're already seeing rolling brownouts happening in parts of the
mid Atlantic.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Yes, and with this deal, and the only thing that
gives me any kind of I don't know, just squint
to read it, is that the fact that Brookfield, the company,
the suitor as it were, that has signed the memorandum
of understanding now would to be sure this deal isn't
finalized yet. We've agreed to a memorandum of understanding. Brookfield
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is the new parent company of Westinghouse, which is how
we got here in this ye old ruins of Fairfield
County that to begin.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
With, Well, Westinghouse went bankrupt, so Brookfield bought them. So
this is not the same people just repackaged, you know.
This is this is a new ownership, new management, new everything.
So that's the good news and hopefully they do a
little bit better. And again Westinghouse didn't have a bad plan.
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What they had were bad people, and that's why a
lot of their people are in jail right now because
they were defrauding things.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Well, as we move forward now waiting to see how
this is going to be finalized, You're right. Initially we
read where we were going to get some electricity, which
was ponderous. I'm glad to know we're going to be
able to get twenty five percent of this effort, So
it would be great news, particularly that, and I thought
South Carolina was one of the few states it actually
was in the electricity generating business. Because I've always wondered
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why the government has to step into the private sector,
which we have seen is a pretty damn good track
record for a nuclear power in particular, and other powers
certainly as we develop new and interesting ways in alternative fuels.
But nonetheless, no, the state of South Carolina is not
the not close to being the only one. It's like
thirty nine to forty other states also own partly a
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private government into they like Santee Cooper for generating electricity.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Well, it really depends on how your state is run.
Like if you look at North Dakota, they've got the
lowest electricity rates in the country and they are run
almost exclusively by the state. It's a state owned power company.
It's kind of like the roads. I mean, you know,
we complained notes about all the roads here in South
Carolina pretty much exclusively run by the state, and we've
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got the crappiest roads, one of the five most deadliest
states in America for roads. And yet you can go
to other states where there's state roads even just shar
you know, go to North Carolina or Georgia and you're
gonna do a lot better job. So it depends on
who you put in power.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
My only cherry picking certain issues that lead me to
believe that the General Assembly sometimes isn't necessarily the best
or the most deliberated body in the state of South Carolina.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
No, I think pretty uniformly, you can say that the
state of South Carolina has a very poor record of
being run.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
We don't manage asphalt well, we don't manage money well,
we didn't want to talk about our retirement fund.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
No.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
And I was glad to see the governor stepped up
and made an issue or is going to make an
issue more so in protecting the water for our state.
But interestingly enough, they didn't even mention data centers, which
pulls a lot of electricity and a lot of order,
but in this case a lot of electricity. And that's
one of the reasons why we should be happy RAT pays.
You should be elated as taxpayers. We should be happy
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that we have an opportunity to at least dig ourselves
out of the financial hole and then end up owning
twenty five percent of a production company or facility that
will actually produce.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Election city well. And again, South Carolina is one of
the worst run states in America and has always been
that way because of how this state was structured. And
you can take it all the way, way, way way
back to the eighteen hundreds, because we structured our government
in a way where the governor is the weakest position.
I think our governor is legislatively the weakest in America,
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meaning he cannot influence really anything. And then you've got
so much power in the legislative branch. And then inside
of that power, they have corrupted it to the point
where they first off, they're all lawyers, and then they
decide who the judges are, and then they argue their
cases in front of the judges that they've hired. And
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so we've just walked ourselves down a hole here where
we're I mean, it's not legally corruption, it's just the
end result looks corrupt.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Yeah, when you write the laws, you kind of get
an inside hint as to how to write the laws
the way I like them. It comes in handy. And
like we learned in True Grit, you don't need a
good lawyer, you just need to get a judge. Well,
Gay's hiring them all the good all the good lawyers
and the general assemblies. I've already got a great judge
lined up to hear your case. Okay, Now, hold on
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a second, we're going to get into a little swamp
talk coming up here in just a second. Then we're
going to put the man of the hot seat carefully
on lock.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Coming up the Jonathan and Kelly Show, Jonathan Rush.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Before the Big Beautiful Bill, our healthcare system was a disaster.
It is this functional, and Democrats have got to deal
with the fact.
Speaker 6 (16:43):
Kelly Nash, you know that insurance company stocks have gone
up sixteen, seventeen, eighteen percent over a short period of time.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
I want to pay the money directly to the people.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Jan and Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Ernie Sanders is not going to miss an opportunity to
push for a one pair system. We've got to have medicare.
Democrats kind of realized this has been a nightmare even
before the Big Beautiful Bill.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
He's not wrong. I mean, if you just look at
healthcare costs in general, they were skyrocketing for many years
before Obama came into power. And the reason that happened
is because what you had were states like South Carolina
on the take. We took money to protect insurance companies
and that's why you have like blue Cross Blue Shield
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of Illinois, Blue Cross Blue Shield of I mean, they
just set up these little areas that was there. They
owned it, and they were It's really anti constitutional what
was happening in America before Obamacare. Then Obamacare came in
and really wiped the floor with the Constitution. And now
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what you have is you had these skyrocketing costs, and
you continue to have the skyrocketing costs, and you've made
it even more of a monopoly, and you've actually added
in the extra costs of the bureaue of having the
federal government run everything for you. It's the worst of
all worlds.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Yeah, there was an interesting collision, as you mentioned, with
the state of South Carolina, because the Insurance Commission here
has to agree which insurance companies, which ones they will
allow to operate in the state, which is the way
the other states are doing it as well. Because everybody's
got a hand in it. And it's not just the
ACA premiums, because we're hearing from other private insurance companies
or insurance agents. Where as you mentioned, it's not just
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the cost of insurance, it's the cost of health care.
It's skyrocketing, which is pushing everybody's premiums up no matter
where you get your health care insurance. Now, I like
you wanted to see the Democrats put a year I
think you had said you wanted to see them put
a year extension just to allow it to kind of
continue to get it out of the way for the
time being.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
No, what I said was, if Donald Trump and the
Maga Republicans were just looking to win an election, that
what they would do is say, Okay, we'll give it
another year extension that takes all the pressure off, gets
them through the midterms. Nobody's you know, pissing and moaning,
and there's going to be a ton of pissing and moaning.
Your internet feed, in your local news and your national
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news will be filled with stories of people who are
no longer have insurance and end up dying and all
these other stories because yes, that the insurance premiums are
going to go up one hundred, two hundred, three hundred
percent for people, because this is what the Democrats designed.
They designed. Remember, not one Republican voted for the Obamacare,
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Not one Republican had any say on when these subsidies
would end. It was picked by the Democrats to end
at the end of this year. This was the year
they thought they would get single payer. They mistimed it
and now there's going to be hell to pay for everybody.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
And it seems like Republicans seemingly always getting the way
of their own news cycle. You know, when your political
opponent is digging themselves a hole, just let them keep digging.
So if we extended it by one year, I mean,
look at the news cycle that's yet to unfold, with
all of the abuse having to do with Medicare and
the like just in Minnesota, which is going to lead
to other state agencies of federal dollars within the Somali
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community and further and now we're already hearing a whistleblower
in Maine who's talking about the same thing. Let all
of that news continue to come out while you take
yourself out of the cross heres and deal with some
other major issues, like getting the economy going and making
sure that we stay on track with all these investments
that have come in and all the lower interest rates.
Again this week, you've got so many good things that
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are happening, but you've got to get that momentum. We've
got to get out of the way and get that
momentum rolling to make sure that you clear it in
time for the midterms and the effectiveness of trying to
keep the House, because then the Democrats are certainly going
to try to throw a monkey wrench in everything Donald
Trump and the Republicans are doing.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Well, they're not doing that right. I mean, Trump has
already said we're not We're not going to extend it.
We're and the Republicans are going to get in line
with Donald Trump. And so Donald Trump, unlike any other
politician before or maybe after. I don't know what it
will be like in the future, but I've never seen
anybody like this before who said I will take on
the problem. He's addressing the problem. So we're going to
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fix the problem. But it's kind of like if you've
got cancer or you've got some sort of serious illness
that requires major surgery. Nobody goes into major surgery happy
about it. You don't even come out of it happy.
It takes a long time to rehabilitate. Fixing the healthcare
issue that has been brewing in the United States of
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America for thirty plus years is not going to be
an easy fix. It's going to take years. And now
I think what Donald Trump is banking on is his big,
beautiful bill will really fire up the economy. You're going
to see people get tax refunds literally triple the size
of last year's when that happens, and sometime in April March,
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those months, you're going to see such a boom in
the economy as we head into the summer. The Republic
the Democrats already know that. They're trying to make you
feel the pain right now and make you remember it
because by the time the midterms hit around, economically, the
country is going to be doing great, and the only
people that are going to have a real bone to
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pick are going to be the ones who got kicked
off their insurance premiums and they're they're in a bad way.
Trump is saying, we're going to fix that as well,
but that's gonna take a long time. But if he
didn't do it now, when would he do it, Because
he's not going to get a chance to do it
next year either, So it's really now or never. And
Donald Trump says, I don't like Americans having shorter life
expectancies than anybody else on the earth. I also don't
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like the fact that the average American median health care
cost right now is thirteen seven hundred and fifty dollars
a year compared to the second place country, which is
I believe it's Norway, and that's nine thousand a year,
so we're forty five. The median income or the median
cost for a country right now that's considered a wealthy
country is about seventy two hundred dollars a year, So
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we're more than double or basically double what they're paying
in every other country for our health care costs, and
we're getting worse results because of the Affordable Care Act
and then of course the other stuff that we mentioned earlier.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
And to be clear, I'm not second guessing at all.
We're going to have a long list of people who
have second guests Donald Trump's decisions and his political prowess.
So I get it. I mean, the man wants to
do it. He's going to do it. He's already told
you he's going to do it, so he's going to
do it. And in the meanwhile, we've got the mention
of the Jasmine Crockett Senate run in Texas a few
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minutes ago, and it's funny because it's much like the
video I guess that Knewsom put out where he had
Trump in handcuffs along with Pete Hedgseth and was it
jd Vance. So the entire Democrat runners for the twenty
twenty eight presidential campaign and now in the Senate campaign,
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and I guess we'll see it play out for all
the Democrats as we roll into the midterms is going
to be exclusively their fight against Trump. So I don't
know at what point they're going to start offering some policies.
They plainly have one they can't fit themselves after they
botched it to begin with with the ACA. And on
top of that, you got people like Maxine Waters screaming
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because Trump and his Hitler associates are just nearly willy
blowing Venezuelan fishermen out of the Caribbean. I think we should,
much like the Gulf of America, we should rename the
Caribbean to the Maxine Waters so the drug traffickers will
know that they're free to cross wherever they like, whenever
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they like, without the worry of Donald Trump's Pete Hedgseth
drones or missiles taking them out. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
I mean, Nicholas Madua is the authoritarian, is the fascist
that they're trying to make Donald Trump out to be.
I mean, you know, Pole watchers say Madua won about
thirty percent of the last election and then just said
f you, I'm not leaving and then imprisoned about forty
of the opposition party and three of them have now died,
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including one last week. He's killing people, he's torturing families.
Imagine trying to run your No King's rally in Venezuela.
How that would have gone for you? And so Donald Trump,
and I don't think it's Donald Trump cares that he's
a fascist and all that sort of stuff. I think
what Donald Trump is concerned about is our hemisphere is
a much more dangerous place because of Venezuela. And of
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course he's been skirting the issue. He's been helping China,
he's been helping Iraq, he's been doing all these things
against the interests of the United States, and we're enforcing
our laws in international laws, like there is a reason
that the international community says Venezuela can't do what it
has been doing with these oil tankers. That oil tanker
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was misidentified is coming from a different country. I think
it was believed that they had a flag flying from
they changed the name on it. It's done this thing
numerous times. And so we did the right thing. I
think that we're going to see Trump continue to push
and push and push till we get that regime change,
to try to make our hemisphere. The Monroe doctrine will
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be applied appropriately by Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
One of the great things for a Christmas story. And
I hope they make a children's book out of this,
and at least make a movie. The Maryland Dad is
coming home for Christmas. He'll be home.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
He'll be home just in time to beat his wife.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
I was wondering how I'm going to fit that into
the lyrics, just to make it a children's book. Mama again.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Yeah, wow, I saw daddy beat.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
And speaking of singing, we're just talking about Maduro. We
got to talk about his little song the other day
when the Venezuelan people plainly upset because he told him
to be for the camera, plainly upset that their oil
tanker had been overtaken by the Americans. He broke out
in the song and dance as well. He loves music
and dancing as much as Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
He was singing his own version of don't worry Be
Happy with a sword.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
And the happiest guy this week is Bobby McFerrin. He
hasn't made a royalty check off that song in years.
There's a whole generation of Americans who don't even know
that song.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Now the Venezuelans would buy it, but they have no
money themselves. But I'm sure we.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Have people now who will be checking out the Bobby
McFerrin song. I hated it then I hate it even
more now thanks for your version, Madua. I don't enjoy it.
I did enjoy watching and I had to laugh out loud.
I get full I want to give full credit to
the CNN anchor, and I can't even remember who said
it or I would give them full credit. But when
(27:35):
they describe Christy Nome as the cp CBP Barbie, maybe
it's the form fitting genes she insists on wearing that
would actually make her look like a c BP Barbie
limited Edition and if there was one available, I would
buy it for a little Sarah for Christmas.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
The House Oversight Committee has just become you know, when
they have these hearings like this, this is a joke.
I mean, you've got what's her face? Mc ivor from
a New Jersey. Benny Thompson is an complete idiot and
his these gotcha questions that they try to come with
(28:15):
that are very ill prepared, and then you're left stunned,
like what am I supposed to say? How many people
are in Antifa? We don't know. We just know that
Antifa works as a criminal organization and is one of
the biggest threats to the American public.
Speaker 6 (28:28):
I don't lie to me now, I need to know.
Just give me the figure. It's a yes, a yes
or no, it's a yes and no question. It's actually
not It's not a yes or no question.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Billy King makes Hank Johnson look like a genius. He
needs to stop asking questions. And they just they they
get so geared up for this television time. As you
mentioned the other house member who was reading all of
her insults on Donald Trump, including the allegation of a
merit of the or the border patrol agents kissing his
(29:02):
butt cheeks. I mean she actually read that out of
a notebook. Now, whether she wrote it or a staff member,
I'm going to bet a staff member. How embarrassing is
that when you're on television. You want to get a
good video out of this, but you're seeing just reading it.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Well and maciveror she was saying the line of about
do you agree that abusing members of Congress is outside
the purview or whatever of Border Patrol or Home Security?
And it's like you're the one who abused the agency.
(29:36):
That's why you got arrested. And you still have a
court date later on this month, ma'am. And you know,
Christy Nolman is like, we don't do that. We're not
going to listen to your lies. We're not going to
listen to your lies.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Oh I did enjoy and I'm like you, I just
hate going through the process because we all know what
they're there for, just to try to get a great
snippet they can use in an upcoming campaign ad or
try to get the lead story on ABC, NBC or
CBS with the funniest, one of the most poignant line
of the House hearing. This is a competition amongst the
Democrats because they know it's like it's like ESPN stop ten.
(30:12):
If you can get the lead story in a little
bit of a snippet on the CBS News, you win.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
We would improve the government much more. I hate to
say this, with less transparency, if you didn't see them
actually talking, they wouldn't be this stupid.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
They always say, the sausage grinding is the last thing
you want to see. Actually, think it's a House subcommittee hearing.
All right, hold on a second, we got to talk
about what's going on in Richland County. We got an
abuse by by sheriff's deputy's Leon Laudabion in just a moment,
Hang on.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
The Jonathan and Kelly Showa.
Speaker 7 (30:45):
Rush Democrats who have such X ray vision in clairvoyance
that they know the intentions of narco terrorists on boats.
Yet we're so blind to see that they had a
president for four years that was operating as a vegetable
in Joe Biden, Kelly Nash.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Where they're not the States of America.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Got it just and Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Oh, please tell me that Joe Biden will make my
Christmas wish come true. Keep Joe out on the trail,
keep people out there talking. Tuck it up, Joe. I
gotta get me one of those Emera god it flags.
I wonder what that looks like. Okay, before we get
out of here. Today, we did have an opportunity to
speak with a man a lot of people wanted to
(31:23):
talk with. Did you see the video? Oh, we're gonna
hold his feet to the fire here in just a second.
Richland County Sheriff Leon Lot great to be with this.
Now everybody and their brother is reporting on this, so
I gotta bring it up right now. What the heck
happened on Ound Patrol Live. It embarrassed Richland County, embarrassed
the state.
Speaker 8 (31:40):
I'm not gonna say it's embarrassing when somebody's fighting us
and kicking at us and resists an arrest like this guy.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Was doing well.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
The woman in the one of the articles says she
almost threw up watching it. She was still appalled by
the overreach the strong armed tactics of Richland County.
Speaker 8 (31:55):
I know it's terrible, and you know what's just all
fuel terrible. Back in March of this he fought us
then too, and guess what inside of my patrol cart
when he was finally put in there after he fought
the deputies again. This guy that's not news of fighting deputies.
He's got a very lengthy record convicted breaking in and
commit murder and rape in Virginia. Serves some lengthy time
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that like seventeen arrest and stuff. The taser did not
work on him. Why did the taser not work on him, well,
he had mushrooms, which is luciditic drug which will give
you superhuman powers. We actually found out out the same
week we found out out when a hospital called us
and said we've got a guide that's been on mushrooms
in the hospitals and took his clothes off. He's fighting everybody.
(32:40):
It took two deputies to get him under control. What
people have seen is a snippet, just a little small part.
Didn't see the whole interaction with this six foot four,
two hundred and forty pounds guy high on drugs who
were fighting our deputies like crazy. You know, he got
stopped and had drugs. He gave the drugs up. He
was asking it out of the car. He refused, tried
(33:01):
to shut the door and then tried to kicking out
the deputies and the fight was on. We had to.
You know, our job is to rest someone.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
But you did see in your press conference you're going
to have what we.
Speaker 8 (33:10):
Do that anytime, anytime there's any use of force. So
it's not just case, it doesn't matter, that's just routine
for us, for the Training Division, our Professional Standards, and
the Citizens of Ivory Council. They review all uses of force.
So this is nothing abnormal or different that we're doing
for this case. Again, you got haters out there who
are going to hate cops for anything that you do.
(33:32):
And again, a fight, I mean, he's he has got
his arm wrapped around the head rest and he's big
and he's strong, and he won't let go. We couldn't
get him. It took a while to get him out.
He's ineffective. They're pulling on his legs, he's kicking his
pants come off. Oh my god, his pants come off.
Isn't that terrible?
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Gey.
Speaker 8 (33:50):
We put his pants back on once we got him
under control. But he had a gun in the car too,
which is a convicted felon, so he can't have a
gun in the car. So people need to look at
the whole vi and not just gauge you on one thing.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
So you're saying that driving an automobile and then being
pulled for whatever reason, being asked to step out of
the car as.
Speaker 8 (34:08):
You already have the drugs and showed the drugs and
showed the drugs the mushrooms to the deputy, which is illegal.
He gives them to the deputy, Warry, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
My right to be able to drive a car.
Speaker 8 (34:18):
It is a privilege to drive that car, and you
got to drive it legally, and you can't drive it
in paired and you can't be a convicted fela with
a gun. You have to get show your identification if
you're driving a vehicles and if you ask, you get
out of the car. He has to get out of
the car. He's the one that escalated this. People. I've
heard people said, well, y'all didn't do anything to de
escalate it. I don't know what you can do. Please sir, please, please, please,
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pretty please, And I mean they kept asking telling him
to get out of the car. Now, I will say this,
he's got a big old goose egg on his forehead
that didn't come from us. Didn't come from us this time,
it didn't come from us. In March, he has a
permanent goose egg on his forehead. I don't know where
he got it, but we didn't call it course. Oh god,
my god, look at him. He's got a goose so
you can his head. They beat him so bad. He's
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got a big o nod on his head.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
You know what I'm hearing is that when people are
pulled over, you have to submit. We see these videos
now where like with ice and Border patrol, where people
are refusing to show their IDs and then the law
enforcement ends up dragging them out of the vehicles. That's
actually what law enforcement is supposed to be.
Speaker 8 (35:21):
We're supposed to do. I mean, it's simple, show your
ID and get out of the car when you're requested
to get out by law enforcement. Now you have people who,
when they're impaired, will have superhuman strength. He's well over
six foot tall and two hundred and forty pounds. He
actively resisted and you can see him kicking out the deputies.
We eventually got him out of the car, got him handcuffed,
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took care of him, took him to the hospitals and
make sure he was okay.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Has anyone ever fought the law and they won? Or
is it always the law wins?
Speaker 8 (35:50):
Eventually the law is going to win.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
That's what I was thinking. You can fight the law
you want, but you're eventually gonna lose.
Speaker 8 (35:56):
Eventually gonna lose, you know. And he kept saying, what
are you hopping me for? What do you get me for?
He'd already gave him the illegal drugs. He knew what
he had done, but he also knew he had a
gun right next to him. He knew that he was
not supposed to have that gun also, So we'll go
through exactly what we normally go through with every case.
We've released some information, but then you know, not even
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a couple of days later, you have somebody who is
high on mushrooms and the hospital goes crazy and we
have to go hand on with them. Also, that's part
of this job is that we arrest people and hopefully
we don't have to fight anybody, but if we have to,
then we have to, and there's never going to be
a pretty fight.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Now, that interview was edited as well, only because of
the time restraints of this program. If you'd like to
hear the complete interview with Sheriff Ley online. We talked
about a lot of things having to do with the
Midlands in Richland County. Obviously, you can check that out
on our podcast.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Yeah, you can always get the Rash Thought podcast. It's
free to download on the free iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Now, today's since typically we would always mention Game Cup football,
we won't be mentioning that for a while.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
Yeah, put that away till late August.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
But today we get a big game. It's the Army
Navy game.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
That's a great game. I don't believe anybody there is
getting any nil money. They're actual college scholarship athletes, are
going to serve the nation as soon as they graduate.
Love these people and so.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
The last bastion of college football.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
And I do love the fact that, like who, if
you're like a US Army team, you're always having beat Navy.
Navy's always saying beat Army. They'll never let that grudge go.
But it's but together their comrades and arms, and they
will take down any other nation on earth.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Have yourself a great Saturday, South Carolina.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
It's the Jonathan and Kelly Show. That is our broadcast.
Thank you for being here with us. I'll show myself
out until we meet again court. And that's the way
it is in WVOC
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show. Jonathan Rush.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
One of the arguments that I hear is somehow that
the ACA made healthcare more.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Expensive Kelly Nash.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Since Obamacare was fully implemented in twenty fourteen, healthcare premiums
have risen one hundred and twenty nine percent, over three
times the rate of inflation.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
The Jonathan and Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Boy, is there a deechasm of understanding? Is described there
by Democrat House Member Maggie Hassen the so called expenses
in healthcare, pointing back to the ACA, Jeff Andrew and
other Republicans, And we'll speak to one of those Republicans
coming up in a minute, plainly making the point that
the Affordable Healthcare Act was not so affordable after all.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Yeah, it's it is the UCA Unaffordable Care Act, and
it's exploding costs. Interesting strategy by the Republicans to not
just take the easy path off, as Jonathan Alway says,
take the pressure off. They could have easily just passed
the subsidies and said let him ride for another year,
we'll deal with them in the fall. But Donald Trump
(01:03):
and the Republicans say we're going to fix it, right
now I hope they can get this handled before the midterms.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Well, we're going to have an opportunity to speak with
one of our delegates to the US House Representatives, Joe Wilson,
coming up in just a second. Also on this program,
we're going to revisit EO Ruins of Fairfield County with
a revisited plan now with Brookfield and Sante Cooper.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Now, is this just like the same band with a
different name.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I don't know. We'll talk about it. Also, we'll speak
speaking with Sheriff Leon lot Boy. They were catching hell
over the past week from local media and social media and.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Apparently given some out as well. They give as good
as they get.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
All that's coming up, and we start with Congressman Joe Wilson.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
And jan Keilly. Great to be with you. Of all things,
we actually did something really good and that was the
passage of the Nets of Defense Authorization Act. This has
much positive implications for our defense. It really is fulfilling
President Trump's wish and dream ambition of peace to strength.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Well, let's talk specifically about South Carolina because we have
so many military installations here and other US defense sites.
Tell me how this affects our state.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
It's really positive for Jackson and that it enhances different
benefits for our military members, and as we have the
initial entry facility there, and then with the Savanna Riversite,
I'm the only member of Congress who's actually worked at
the Savanna Riversite, and I'm very grateful that the Oltonium
two site solution now is firmly in place, which enhances
(02:29):
nuclear defense capabilities and also other missions will be implemented.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Congressman Joe Wilson with us this morning, and as we
head into the winter break here and all of a sudden,
twenty twenty six will be upon us. A lot of
Americans concerned about the Obamacare subsidies. We just heard yesterday
that the government, through Mike Johnson, he told us this
story that there was twenty five attempts by government officials
(02:56):
to get Obamacare using what they knew were fraudulent applications
without Social Security numbers and anything. But twenty four of
the twenty five were approved and started receiving Obamacare. So,
I mean, this is just a program that's ripe with fraud.
How are the Republicans going to address this issue? You think?
Going into twenty twenty six You're absolutely right.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
It says the fraud or misused. And additionally, to me,
when they talk about Obamacare subsidies, what they're saying is
something that they laughed about, the Democrats, and that is
Obamacare would not work, and then of course people didn't
sign up, and then they had to come up with
during COVID, and COVID was used for so many initiatives
(03:39):
to grow government that now should be reversed. This is
one of them. And my view is that the subsidies
are in a mission against self interest by Democrats that
the system doesn't work. Now, hey, Jonathan Kello, we know
how they can make the system work. You just keep
throwing more money in, more money, more money, and then
you ultimately, as bargain that just said about socialism, only
(04:00):
run out of other people's money and the system collapsed.
And so to me, we need to change significantly. There
are initiatives by Mike Johnson, by Centercassidy of Louisiana, and
we need to replace Obamacare because indeed, the whole point
of it, I believe, was to make people dependent on government.
I don't want dependency. I want people to have a
fulfilling life.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
In hindsight, now and pollings that have followed since the
government shut down, most Americans agree Republicans stood their ground
on principle, and you actually won over the perception of
who was right or wrong. But this time with the
argument over Obamacare extensions on the like, you're going to
have people impacted in their daily budget, even people that
aren't on ACA programs. So this is a little more
(04:43):
tedious as you go into this conversation by the end
of January, and.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Jonathan, you're right again, except to me, since Obamacare A,
healthcare costs have gone up late ninety percent, so this
needs to be adjusted. And another fact that's really startling
is that we spend life three time times as much
as any other country on healthcare. I truly believe going
to a free market where there's competition, where there's a
disclosure of what the costs of tests are or treatments are,
(05:10):
and then give the individual the opportunity to choose whether
they would like to have a particular procedure or not,
and then we know what they're trying to do is
get the socialist system, which actually should be defined as
delay and deny, with the government delaying and denying services.
As we see around the world, and we've got the
best healthcare system Gouds. Think of the hospitals that we
(05:32):
have across the Midlands, I mean, they're just world class.
I believe that if we had a pre market system,
it would ultimately reduce the cost.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
We're talking with Congressman Joe Wilson, your friend James Comer,
the House Oversight and Accountability Committee chairperson, yesterday talked about
Tim Walls and how serious the fraud in Minnesota is.
How does this play out in your mind? I'm not
saying this is what's going to happen. Does Tim Walls ever?
(06:04):
I mean, does he end up in front is he
going to get a subpoena? Is he going to end
up in front of a committee? Is he going to
end up in jail? What do you think? And what's
going to happen with ilhan Omar? Is she going to
be censured? Is she going to be in some sort
of legal troubles? Where do you see this going?
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Indeed, Term and Comber is a persistent individual, as we've seen,
and to bring out the truth. I really think that
the hearings will be sufficient to raise a very significant issue,
and that is that in so many of the Democrat states.
There is no oversight at all to the different welfare programs.
And it's inconceivable to me that in Los Angeles that
(06:39):
there are over a million people on food stamp. That's
inconceivable because with housing costs beginning at five hundred thousand
dollars or whatever, if you can make a house payment,
my gosh, I used to be able to buy food.
But the bottom line is, we want people to have jobs.
We want to create jobs, We want to have people
have opportunity. But the people who believe in big government,
(07:00):
they want the most people dependent on government to vote
for bigger government. And those of us are Republicans who
want limited government, expanded freedom. We want people to on
their own enjoy life, have meaningful life, and not be
dependent on government programs and have the spectacle that's coming
up soon of banning the ability and I appreciate Governor
(07:21):
and mcmask for doing this, banning the sale of snickers
with foodstamps, which is symbolic of again where there should
be accountability. We want to help people with nutrition, not
really promote prominent dependency.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
All right, Now, that interview was edited only because of
the time restraints of this program. You could hear the
complete interview on our podcast. We put those up Monday
through Thursday.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Just look for the rast podcast on the iHeartRadio app
coming up.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
In just a second. Let's go back to Fairfield County
and take a look at the smoldering ruins and see
if we can see the phoenix rising from the ashes.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Next Jonathan and Kelly Showa.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
Rush Ernie Texas Blue is what I want to talk
to y'all about today. There are those that say, ain't
no way, We didn't try it fifty kinds of ways,
Kelly Nash, y'all ain't never tried it the JC way.
So I just want to be clear for all the
haters in the back listen up real loud.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
We gonna get this thing done.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Yow oh, I get it.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
It's kind of like the argument for socialism. Y'all just
haven't done it right. Like Bernie Sanders told you, you
got to do it the JC way. If you want
to flip Texas Blue.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
I mean, what is the JC way? Does she explain?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
She didn't explain that yet, but she's gonna, she said,
all the haters, I got a couple of questions, what
is the JC way? And all the haters listen up loud. Now,
is there an adjustment that I can make to hear
without using hearing aids? Maybe? I don't know. I got
a little confused by her announcement.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Again, we are haters, apparently, And so look, if you're
a Democrat right now, you have to be asking yourself.
I would think, are we no longer a serious party?
Have we just become just this joke of a party
where she's a Senate candidate. I mean, it was bad
enough with she was a House member. The fact that
(09:09):
she's going to be trying to represent your state as
one of only two people in this state. And again,
the Senate is where the serious, mature side of statesmanship happens.
The House is a little more.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Freestyle, right, the most deliberated body on the face of
the earth, the US Senate, has to have JC to
add to the conversation.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
The maturity of JC.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
And did you ever see anything where Tim Scott and
the Senate Finance Committee actually took any credit for this?
Because I heard somebody making a big deal out of
Tim Scott needs to be saluted for his efforts to
put together disaster turf effort that lured her in with
their polling manipulation that she even quoted in her announcement
that she was going to run for the Senate.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
I haven't heard anything about that, but it's not a
surprise to me that JC or Jasmine Crockett would poll well. Again,
the people that are responding to the polls are usually
the most passionate people out there and mostly low information voters.
So you're very passionate and your low information. That's the
perfect combination for socialism and just chaotic politics.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Well, i'd love to find out whether we should be
saluting Tim Scott for his efforts through his Finance committee
on the Senate side, But nonetheless, we don't have that
confirmed yet. So well noted that is not confirmed. That
was only mentioned in a newscast. Hey, coming up still,
we're going to be talking to Sheriff Leon Lott about
a lot of things mentioned in a newscast here in
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South Carolina. That'll be in segment four. And boy, there
were I don't think there was a news media outlet
that didn't pick up this story. San T. Cooper has
an agreement. It is a memorandum of understanding two point
seven billion for the unfinished reactors at the VC Summer
plant in Fairfield County. Now that's great news if you're
(11:03):
a rate payer. Not bad news if you're a taxpayer,
but certainly great news for ratepayers. For Santee Cooper.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Uh yeah, it doesn't get you out of the two
holes that have been dug, but it gets you a
lot closer to being out of the holes because it's
a three billion dollar debt that you currently have, so
now you just know a three hundred million So that's
the good news that should be paid off relatively quickly,
you would think. At the same time, you're going to
keep twenty five percent ownership of the nuclear facility, so
(11:33):
it comes online in twenty thirty, about twenty five percent
of that energy will be available for you know, the
people here in South Carolina, which is fantastic because we
are desperately going to need more and more energy. Is
we're already seeing rolling brownouts happening in parts of the
mid Atlantic.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Yes, and with this deal, and the only thing that
gives me any kind of I don't know, just squint
to read it, is that the fact that Brookfield, the company,
the suitor as it were, that has signed the memorandum
of understanding now would to be sure this deal isn't
finalized yet. We've agreed to a memorandum of understanding. Brookfield
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is the new parent company of Westinghouse, which is how
we got here in this ye old ruins of Fairfield
County that to begin.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
With, Well, Westinghouse went bankrupt, so Brookfield bought them. So
this is not the same people just repackaged, you know.
This is this is a new ownership, new management, new everything.
So that's the good news and hopefully they do a
little bit better. And again Westinghouse didn't have a bad plan.
(12:40):
What they had were bad people, and that's why a
lot of their people are in jail right now because
they were defrauding things.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Well, as we move forward now waiting to see how
this is going to be finalized, You're right. Initially we
read where we were going to get some electricity, which
was ponderous. I'm glad to know we're going to be
able to get twenty five percent of this effort, So
it would be great news, particularly that, and I thought
South Carolina was one of the few states it actually
was in the electricity generating business. Because I've always wondered
(13:11):
why the government has to step into the private sector,
which we have seen is a pretty damn good track
record for a nuclear power in particular, and other powers
certainly as we develop new and interesting ways in alternative fuels.
But nonetheless, no, the state of South Carolina is not
the not close to being the only one. It's like
thirty nine to forty other states also own partly a
(13:34):
private government into they like Santee Cooper for generating electricity.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Well, it really depends on how your state is run.
Like if you look at North Dakota, they've got the
lowest electricity rates in the country and they are run
almost exclusively by the state. It's a state owned power company.
It's kind of like the roads. I mean, you know,
we complained notes about all the roads here in South
Carolina pretty much exclusively run by the state, and we've
(14:00):
got the crappiest roads, one of the five most deadliest
states in America for roads. And yet you can go
to other states where there's state roads even just shar
you know, go to North Carolina or Georgia and you're
gonna do a lot better job. So it depends on
who you put in power.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
My only cherry picking certain issues that lead me to
believe that the General Assembly sometimes isn't necessarily the best
or the most deliberated body in the state of South Carolina.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
No, I think pretty uniformly, you can say that the
state of South Carolina has a very poor record of
being run.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
We don't manage asphalt well, we don't manage money well,
we didn't want to talk about our retirement fund.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
No.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
And I was glad to see the governor stepped up
and made an issue or is going to make an
issue more so in protecting the water for our state.
But interestingly enough, they didn't even mention data centers, which
pulls a lot of electricity and a lot of order,
but in this case a lot of electricity. And that's
one of the reasons why we should be happy RAT pays.
You should be elated as taxpayers. We should be happy
(15:02):
that we have an opportunity to at least dig ourselves
out of the financial hole and then end up owning
twenty five percent of a production company or facility that
will actually produce.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Election city well. And again, South Carolina is one of
the worst run states in America and has always been
that way because of how this state was structured. And
you can take it all the way, way, way way
back to the eighteen hundreds, because we structured our government
in a way where the governor is the weakest position.
I think our governor is legislatively the weakest in America,
(15:36):
meaning he cannot influence really anything. And then you've got
so much power in the legislative branch. And then inside
of that power, they have corrupted it to the point
where they first off, they're all lawyers, and then they
decide who the judges are, and then they argue their
cases in front of the judges that they've hired. And
(15:56):
so we've just walked ourselves down a hole here where
we're I mean, it's not legally corruption, it's just the
end result looks corrupt.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Yeah, when you write the laws, you kind of get
an inside hint as to how to write the laws
the way I like them. It comes in handy. And
like we learned in True Grit, you don't need a
good lawyer, you just need to get a judge. Well,
Gay's hiring them all the good all the good lawyers
and the general assemblies. I've already got a great judge
lined up to hear your case. Okay, Now, hold on
(16:25):
a second, we're going to get into a little swamp
talk coming up here in just a second. Then we're
going to put the man of the hot seat carefully
on lock.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Coming up the Jonathan and Kelly Show, Jonathan Rush.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Before the Big Beautiful Bill, our healthcare system was a disaster.
It is this functional, and Democrats have got to deal
with the fact.
Speaker 6 (16:43):
Kelly Nash, you know that insurance company stocks have gone
up sixteen, seventeen, eighteen percent over a short period of time.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
I want to pay the money directly to the people.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Jan and Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Ernie Sanders is not going to miss an opportunity to
push for a one pair system. We've got to have medicare.
Democrats kind of realized this has been a nightmare even
before the Big Beautiful Bill.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
He's not wrong. I mean, if you just look at
healthcare costs in general, they were skyrocketing for many years
before Obama came into power. And the reason that happened
is because what you had were states like South Carolina
on the take. We took money to protect insurance companies
and that's why you have like blue Cross Blue Shield
(17:26):
of Illinois, Blue Cross Blue Shield of I mean, they
just set up these little areas that was there. They
owned it, and they were It's really anti constitutional what
was happening in America before Obamacare. Then Obamacare came in
and really wiped the floor with the Constitution. And now
(17:46):
what you have is you had these skyrocketing costs, and
you continue to have the skyrocketing costs, and you've made
it even more of a monopoly, and you've actually added
in the extra costs of the bureaue of having the
federal government run everything for you. It's the worst of
all worlds.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Yeah, there was an interesting collision, as you mentioned, with
the state of South Carolina, because the Insurance Commission here
has to agree which insurance companies, which ones they will
allow to operate in the state, which is the way
the other states are doing it as well. Because everybody's
got a hand in it. And it's not just the
ACA premiums, because we're hearing from other private insurance companies
or insurance agents. Where as you mentioned, it's not just
(18:26):
the cost of insurance, it's the cost of health care.
It's skyrocketing, which is pushing everybody's premiums up no matter
where you get your health care insurance. Now, I like
you wanted to see the Democrats put a year I
think you had said you wanted to see them put
a year extension just to allow it to kind of
continue to get it out of the way for the
time being.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
No, what I said was, if Donald Trump and the
Maga Republicans were just looking to win an election, that
what they would do is say, Okay, we'll give it
another year extension that takes all the pressure off, gets
them through the midterms. Nobody's you know, pissing and moaning,
and there's going to be a ton of pissing and moaning.
Your internet feed, in your local news and your national
(19:08):
news will be filled with stories of people who are
no longer have insurance and end up dying and all
these other stories because yes, that the insurance premiums are
going to go up one hundred, two hundred, three hundred
percent for people, because this is what the Democrats designed.
They designed. Remember, not one Republican voted for the Obamacare,
(19:28):
Not one Republican had any say on when these subsidies
would end. It was picked by the Democrats to end
at the end of this year. This was the year
they thought they would get single payer. They mistimed it
and now there's going to be hell to pay for everybody.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
And it seems like Republicans seemingly always getting the way
of their own news cycle. You know, when your political
opponent is digging themselves a hole, just let them keep digging.
So if we extended it by one year, I mean,
look at the news cycle that's yet to unfold, with
all of the abuse having to do with Medicare and
the like just in Minnesota, which is going to lead
to other state agencies of federal dollars within the Somali
(20:04):
community and further and now we're already hearing a whistleblower
in Maine who's talking about the same thing. Let all
of that news continue to come out while you take
yourself out of the cross heres and deal with some
other major issues, like getting the economy going and making
sure that we stay on track with all these investments
that have come in and all the lower interest rates.
Again this week, you've got so many good things that
(20:26):
are happening, but you've got to get that momentum. We've
got to get out of the way and get that
momentum rolling to make sure that you clear it in
time for the midterms and the effectiveness of trying to
keep the House, because then the Democrats are certainly going
to try to throw a monkey wrench in everything Donald
Trump and the Republicans are doing.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Well, they're not doing that right. I mean, Trump has
already said we're not We're not going to extend it.
We're and the Republicans are going to get in line
with Donald Trump. And so Donald Trump, unlike any other
politician before or maybe after. I don't know what it
will be like in the future, but I've never seen
anybody like this before who said I will take on
the problem. He's addressing the problem. So we're going to
(21:04):
fix the problem. But it's kind of like if you've
got cancer or you've got some sort of serious illness
that requires major surgery. Nobody goes into major surgery happy
about it. You don't even come out of it happy.
It takes a long time to rehabilitate. Fixing the healthcare
issue that has been brewing in the United States of
(21:24):
America for thirty plus years is not going to be
an easy fix. It's going to take years. And now
I think what Donald Trump is banking on is his big,
beautiful bill will really fire up the economy. You're going
to see people get tax refunds literally triple the size
of last year's when that happens, and sometime in April March,
(21:48):
those months, you're going to see such a boom in
the economy as we head into the summer. The Republic
the Democrats already know that. They're trying to make you
feel the pain right now and make you remember it
because by the time the midterms hit around, economically, the
country is going to be doing great, and the only
people that are going to have a real bone to
(22:08):
pick are going to be the ones who got kicked
off their insurance premiums and they're they're in a bad way.
Trump is saying, we're going to fix that as well,
but that's gonna take a long time. But if he
didn't do it now, when would he do it, Because
he's not going to get a chance to do it
next year either, So it's really now or never. And
Donald Trump says, I don't like Americans having shorter life
expectancies than anybody else on the earth. I also don't
(22:31):
like the fact that the average American median health care
cost right now is thirteen seven hundred and fifty dollars
a year compared to the second place country, which is
I believe it's Norway, and that's nine thousand a year,
so we're forty five. The median income or the median
cost for a country right now that's considered a wealthy
country is about seventy two hundred dollars a year, So
(22:51):
we're more than double or basically double what they're paying
in every other country for our health care costs, and
we're getting worse results because of the Affordable Care Act
and then of course the other stuff that we mentioned earlier.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
And to be clear, I'm not second guessing at all.
We're going to have a long list of people who
have second guests Donald Trump's decisions and his political prowess.
So I get it. I mean, the man wants to
do it. He's going to do it. He's already told
you he's going to do it, so he's going to
do it. And in the meanwhile, we've got the mention
of the Jasmine Crockett Senate run in Texas a few
(23:24):
minutes ago, and it's funny because it's much like the
video I guess that Knewsom put out where he had
Trump in handcuffs along with Pete Hedgseth and was it
jd Vance. So the entire Democrat runners for the twenty
twenty eight presidential campaign and now in the Senate campaign,
(23:45):
and I guess we'll see it play out for all
the Democrats as we roll into the midterms is going
to be exclusively their fight against Trump. So I don't
know at what point they're going to start offering some policies.
They plainly have one they can't fit themselves after they
botched it to begin with with the ACA. And on
top of that, you got people like Maxine Waters screaming
(24:07):
because Trump and his Hitler associates are just nearly willy
blowing Venezuelan fishermen out of the Caribbean. I think we should,
much like the Gulf of America, we should rename the
Caribbean to the Maxine Waters so the drug traffickers will
know that they're free to cross wherever they like, whenever
(24:31):
they like, without the worry of Donald Trump's Pete Hedgseth
drones or missiles taking them out. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
I mean, Nicholas Madua is the authoritarian, is the fascist
that they're trying to make Donald Trump out to be.
I mean, you know, Pole watchers say Madua won about
thirty percent of the last election and then just said
f you, I'm not leaving and then imprisoned about forty
of the opposition party and three of them have now died,
(25:00):
including one last week. He's killing people, he's torturing families.
Imagine trying to run your No King's rally in Venezuela.
How that would have gone for you? And so Donald Trump,
and I don't think it's Donald Trump cares that he's
a fascist and all that sort of stuff. I think
what Donald Trump is concerned about is our hemisphere is
a much more dangerous place because of Venezuela. And of
(25:23):
course he's been skirting the issue. He's been helping China,
he's been helping Iraq, he's been doing all these things
against the interests of the United States, and we're enforcing
our laws in international laws, like there is a reason
that the international community says Venezuela can't do what it
has been doing with these oil tankers. That oil tanker
(25:45):
was misidentified is coming from a different country. I think
it was believed that they had a flag flying from
they changed the name on it. It's done this thing
numerous times. And so we did the right thing. I
think that we're going to see Trump continue to push
and push and push till we get that regime change,
to try to make our hemisphere. The Monroe doctrine will
(26:07):
be applied appropriately by Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
One of the great things for a Christmas story. And
I hope they make a children's book out of this,
and at least make a movie. The Maryland Dad is
coming home for Christmas. He'll be home.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
He'll be home just in time to beat his wife.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
I was wondering how I'm going to fit that into
the lyrics, just to make it a children's book. Mama again.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Yeah, wow, I saw daddy beat.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
And speaking of singing, we're just talking about Maduro. We
got to talk about his little song the other day
when the Venezuelan people plainly upset because he told him
to be for the camera, plainly upset that their oil
tanker had been overtaken by the Americans. He broke out
in the song and dance as well. He loves music
and dancing as much as Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
He was singing his own version of don't worry Be
Happy with a sword.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
And the happiest guy this week is Bobby McFerrin. He
hasn't made a royalty check off that song in years.
There's a whole generation of Americans who don't even know
that song.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Now the Venezuelans would buy it, but they have no
money themselves. But I'm sure we.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Have people now who will be checking out the Bobby
McFerrin song. I hated it then I hate it even
more now thanks for your version, Madua. I don't enjoy it.
I did enjoy watching and I had to laugh out loud.
I get full I want to give full credit to
the CNN anchor, and I can't even remember who said
it or I would give them full credit. But when
(27:35):
they describe Christy Nome as the cp CBP Barbie, maybe
it's the form fitting genes she insists on wearing that
would actually make her look like a c BP Barbie
limited Edition and if there was one available, I would
buy it for a little Sarah for Christmas.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
The House Oversight Committee has just become you know, when
they have these hearings like this, this is a joke.
I mean, you've got what's her face? Mc ivor from
a New Jersey. Benny Thompson is an complete idiot and
his these gotcha questions that they try to come with
(28:15):
that are very ill prepared, and then you're left stunned,
like what am I supposed to say? How many people
are in Antifa? We don't know. We just know that
Antifa works as a criminal organization and is one of
the biggest threats to the American public.
Speaker 6 (28:28):
I don't lie to me now, I need to know.
Just give me the figure. It's a yes, a yes
or no, it's a yes and no question. It's actually
not It's not a yes or no question.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Billy King makes Hank Johnson look like a genius. He
needs to stop asking questions. And they just they they
get so geared up for this television time. As you
mentioned the other house member who was reading all of
her insults on Donald Trump, including the allegation of a
merit of the or the border patrol agents kissing his
(29:02):
butt cheeks. I mean she actually read that out of
a notebook. Now, whether she wrote it or a staff member,
I'm going to bet a staff member. How embarrassing is
that when you're on television. You want to get a
good video out of this, but you're seeing just reading it.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Well and maciveror she was saying the line of about
do you agree that abusing members of Congress is outside
the purview or whatever of Border Patrol or Home Security?
And it's like you're the one who abused the agency.
(29:36):
That's why you got arrested. And you still have a
court date later on this month, ma'am. And you know,
Christy Nolman is like, we don't do that. We're not
going to listen to your lies. We're not going to
listen to your lies.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Oh I did enjoy and I'm like you, I just
hate going through the process because we all know what
they're there for, just to try to get a great
snippet they can use in an upcoming campaign ad or
try to get the lead story on ABC, NBC or
CBS with the funniest, one of the most poignant line
of the House hearing. This is a competition amongst the
Democrats because they know it's like it's like ESPN stop ten.
(30:12):
If you can get the lead story in a little
bit of a snippet on the CBS News, you win.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
We would improve the government much more. I hate to
say this, with less transparency, if you didn't see them
actually talking, they wouldn't be this stupid.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
They always say, the sausage grinding is the last thing
you want to see. Actually, think it's a House subcommittee hearing.
All right, hold on a second, we got to talk
about what's going on in Richland County. We got an
abuse by by sheriff's deputy's Leon Laudabion in just a moment,
Hang on.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
The Jonathan and Kelly Showa.
Speaker 7 (30:45):
Rush Democrats who have such X ray vision in clairvoyance
that they know the intentions of narco terrorists on boats.
Yet we're so blind to see that they had a
president for four years that was operating as a vegetable
in Joe Biden, Kelly Nash.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Where they're not the States of America.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Got it just and Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Oh, please tell me that Joe Biden will make my
Christmas wish come true. Keep Joe out on the trail,
keep people out there talking. Tuck it up, Joe. I
gotta get me one of those Emera god it flags.
I wonder what that looks like. Okay, before we get
out of here. Today, we did have an opportunity to
speak with a man a lot of people wanted to
(31:23):
talk with. Did you see the video? Oh, we're gonna
hold his feet to the fire here in just a second.
Richland County Sheriff Leon Lot great to be with this.
Now everybody and their brother is reporting on this, so
I gotta bring it up right now. What the heck
happened on Ound Patrol Live. It embarrassed Richland County, embarrassed
the state.
Speaker 8 (31:40):
I'm not gonna say it's embarrassing when somebody's fighting us
and kicking at us and resists an arrest like this guy.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Was doing well.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
The woman in the one of the articles says she
almost threw up watching it. She was still appalled by
the overreach the strong armed tactics of Richland County.
Speaker 8 (31:55):
I know it's terrible, and you know what's just all
fuel terrible. Back in March of this he fought us
then too, and guess what inside of my patrol cart
when he was finally put in there after he fought
the deputies again. This guy that's not news of fighting deputies.
He's got a very lengthy record convicted breaking in and
commit murder and rape in Virginia. Serves some lengthy time
(32:18):
that like seventeen arrest and stuff. The taser did not
work on him. Why did the taser not work on him, well,
he had mushrooms, which is luciditic drug which will give
you superhuman powers. We actually found out out the same
week we found out out when a hospital called us
and said we've got a guide that's been on mushrooms
in the hospitals and took his clothes off. He's fighting everybody.
(32:40):
It took two deputies to get him under control. What
people have seen is a snippet, just a little small part.
Didn't see the whole interaction with this six foot four,
two hundred and forty pounds guy high on drugs who
were fighting our deputies like crazy. You know, he got
stopped and had drugs. He gave the drugs up. He
was asking it out of the car. He refused, tried
(33:01):
to shut the door and then tried to kicking out
the deputies and the fight was on. We had to.
You know, our job is to rest someone.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
But you did see in your press conference you're going
to have what we.
Speaker 8 (33:10):
Do that anytime, anytime there's any use of force. So
it's not just case, it doesn't matter, that's just routine
for us, for the Training Division, our Professional Standards, and
the Citizens of Ivory Council. They review all uses of force.
So this is nothing abnormal or different that we're doing
for this case. Again, you got haters out there who
are going to hate cops for anything that you do.
(33:32):
And again, a fight, I mean, he's he has got
his arm wrapped around the head rest and he's big
and he's strong, and he won't let go. We couldn't
get him. It took a while to get him out.
He's ineffective. They're pulling on his legs, he's kicking his
pants come off. Oh my god, his pants come off.
Isn't that terrible?
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Gey.
Speaker 8 (33:50):
We put his pants back on once we got him
under control. But he had a gun in the car too,
which is a convicted felon, so he can't have a
gun in the car. So people need to look at
the whole vi and not just gauge you on one thing.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
So you're saying that driving an automobile and then being
pulled for whatever reason, being asked to step out of
the car as.
Speaker 8 (34:08):
You already have the drugs and showed the drugs and
showed the drugs the mushrooms to the deputy, which is illegal.
He gives them to the deputy, Warry, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
My right to be able to drive a car.
Speaker 8 (34:18):
It is a privilege to drive that car, and you
got to drive it legally, and you can't drive it
in paired and you can't be a convicted fela with
a gun. You have to get show your identification if
you're driving a vehicles and if you ask, you get
out of the car. He has to get out of
the car. He's the one that escalated this. People. I've
heard people said, well, y'all didn't do anything to de
escalate it. I don't know what you can do. Please sir, please, please, please,
(34:41):
pretty please, And I mean they kept asking telling him
to get out of the car. Now, I will say this,
he's got a big old goose egg on his forehead
that didn't come from us. Didn't come from us this time,
it didn't come from us. In March, he has a
permanent goose egg on his forehead. I don't know where
he got it, but we didn't call it course. Oh god,
my god, look at him. He's got a goose so
you can his head. They beat him so bad. He's
(35:01):
got a big o nod on his head.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
You know what I'm hearing is that when people are
pulled over, you have to submit. We see these videos
now where like with ice and Border patrol, where people
are refusing to show their IDs and then the law
enforcement ends up dragging them out of the vehicles. That's
actually what law enforcement is supposed to be.
Speaker 8 (35:21):
We're supposed to do. I mean, it's simple, show your
ID and get out of the car when you're requested
to get out by law enforcement. Now you have people who,
when they're impaired, will have superhuman strength. He's well over
six foot tall and two hundred and forty pounds. He
actively resisted and you can see him kicking out the deputies.
We eventually got him out of the car, got him handcuffed,
(35:42):
took care of him, took him to the hospitals and
make sure he was okay.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Has anyone ever fought the law and they won? Or
is it always the law wins?
Speaker 8 (35:50):
Eventually the law is going to win.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
That's what I was thinking. You can fight the law
you want, but you're eventually gonna lose.
Speaker 8 (35:56):
Eventually gonna lose, you know. And he kept saying, what
are you hopping me for? What do you get me for?
He'd already gave him the illegal drugs. He knew what
he had done, but he also knew he had a
gun right next to him. He knew that he was
not supposed to have that gun also, So we'll go
through exactly what we normally go through with every case.
We've released some information, but then you know, not even
(36:17):
a couple of days later, you have somebody who is
high on mushrooms and the hospital goes crazy and we
have to go hand on with them. Also, that's part
of this job is that we arrest people and hopefully
we don't have to fight anybody, but if we have to,
then we have to, and there's never going to be
a pretty fight.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Now, that interview was edited as well, only because of
the time restraints of this program. If you'd like to
hear the complete interview with Sheriff Ley online. We talked
about a lot of things having to do with the
Midlands in Richland County. Obviously, you can check that out
on our podcast.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Yeah, you can always get the Rash Thought podcast. It's
free to download on the free iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Now, today's since typically we would always mention Game Cup football,
we won't be mentioning that for a while.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
Yeah, put that away till late August.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
But today we get a big game. It's the Army
Navy game.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
That's a great game. I don't believe anybody there is
getting any nil money. They're actual college scholarship athletes, are
going to serve the nation as soon as they graduate.
Love these people and so.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
The last bastion of college football.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
And I do love the fact that, like who, if
you're like a US Army team, you're always having beat Navy.
Navy's always saying beat Army. They'll never let that grudge go.
But it's but together their comrades and arms, and they
will take down any other nation on earth.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Have yourself a great Saturday, South Carolina.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
It's the Jonathan and Kelly Show. That is our broadcast.
Thank you for being here with us. I'll show myself
out until we meet again court. And that's the way
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