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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Do you think the era ends?
Speaker 3 (00:06):
This is what I'm hoping that midterms people come out
and vote like crazy and then the reckon incomes everybody
that worked for ICE. I want them in jail, Kelly,
I don't mean no harm. If he would have said
shut a picket to me, I'd have been like, you
fat up, your stinking bastard, fat the horse you walked in.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
On Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
I have so many questions for Leslie Jones, by the way,
that she's one of the best people.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
That was that's a female. Yes, I was going to
ask you who that little ball of sunshine was. I
thought it was a gay guy.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
No, that's that's Leslie Jones from SNL fame. And that
was on a podcast called The Best People, and so
Cole Wallace tells you in promoting her podcast, these are
the best people I've ever met. So this is this
is the best. This is isn't get any better than this.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
So we want to arrest all the ICE agents.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yes, she wants the mid term, the Democrats to come
out from everywhere and vote, and then that way you
can take take over the House. And then I guess
she's going to impeach Donald Trump, and Pete head Seth
and Pam Bondy and the list goes on and on.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
You know, the no borders people, and I'm guessing Leslie
Jones is one of them. I'm sure if you've gotten
into America, you should stay in America. It's just an interest.
I'm trying to do the mental gymnastics that they must
have to do because a, especially if you're a black person,
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you would know that most of the jobs an estimated
seventy five percent of the jobs that illegals have taken
have come from black people. They've undercut the black people
who were at the bottom rung of the economic ladder
in the United States. They lost their jobs. So you're
attacking your own neighborhoods. On top of it, minority groups
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that live here from Central and South America overwhelmingly want
the border closed. Yes, why would they want that closed? Now?
Some of them, you know, are trying to make the
argument that it's like, well, they're like, I got minds,
forget y'all's pull up the ladder behind me. So they're
just evil. So you're now saying that the legal immigrants
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in America are bad people. The only good people in
your mental gymnastics are the illegals. So that's why we're
doing everything we can to fight for the illegals.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I guess, well, it's not that she wouldn't see how
it hurts her neighborhood because she doesn't live in that neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
I'm sure. Well, she grew up in that neighborhood, but she.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Has long since been separated out of that neighborhood, so
it doesn't affect her or her circle. And apparently she
doesn't have any friends from her old neighborhood she grew
up up with. She left them behind.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
So, but the current legal immigrants here are bad people
because they don't want these illegals here. And then you know,
I mean because again, so I left. If I left
whatever Nicaragua, I left, whatever country I was in, it
was because it was there was bad people there. Now
they're coming here. I don't want them coming here because
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they're the bad people.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
They're either bad people that you're getting away from, like
the game violence, or there's a bad person like the
authoritarian on top of the government that you're running from.
But nonetheless you have gotten here now. So her argument,
I guess would be here's another gymnastic hoop she's got
to jump through. So her argument would be, if you
came here legally in the past, like let's say five years,
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just throw out the number five years that you need
to go because you're trying to hold the other people back. Yes,
you're so greedy you have to go. Yes.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
And then you know the other thing is when they
make the argument of well, we need these people here
because who, like, as jess Mincrocat said, who's going to
pick that cotton? Y'all? We're done picking cotton. So now
you've just identified the illegals as the new slaves. I
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mean that's you're literally using the same argument that slaveholders
held in the eighteen hundreds. In the seventeen hundreds, who's
going to.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Pick it, you whitey, And we're going to be so abusive,
we're doing away with all of the mechanical engineering that
we've advanced over the past fifty ten decades nine, so
that you have to literally have to go back out
and pick the cotton by hand.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Well, I you know, and I understand that she was
using that as a metaphor, but I mean, you know,
who's going to work on that chicken pipe.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I don't know that she I don't know that she
knows that. I think she still thinks cotton's picked by hand.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Well, it's whatever job is on the bottom rung of
the economic ladder.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Sure, who's going to sweep up, who's going to mop
up the blood, who's going to walk, who's washing dishes,
who's doing the laundry, who's going to clean the restaurants,
who's going to clean the hotels. Who's going to cut
my yard, trim my shrubbery?
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yeah, I mean, hello, there are people who will do that.
There are Americans. It probably will cost a little bit more.
This is not new. I mean in the eighties, I
remember people would lose nominations for like ambassadorships and stuff
because they had hired an illegal alien to be the
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nanny or to be the housekeeper. Now you're applauded for it.
Now you're supporting it.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
This is not a good thing. Now you're a saint
for hiring the illegal.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
I'm sure she has plenty she pays. All right, Wait
a minute, Hold on a second again with a double
secret probationary hotline. Kelly Nash, Welcome back on the phone
at the Lieutenant Governor Pamela Evant, Good morning.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Good morning guys, Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah. I mean, I
was in Charleston last night for the Hana Khan the Square.
A great turnout despite you know, I was so happy
everybody turned out because I was really worried with the
tragedy that happened in Australia that it was going to
make people nervous and you know, not come out. But
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it didn't. And I think that just shows who we
are here in South Carolina. Police presence was really high.
Thank you to all of our law enforcement and and
you know, the only time darkness wins is when it's
we can't shine a light on it, and that light
are the people and showing up and not backing down.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Mentioned you were down in Charleston. You've been on your
keep South Carolina. Great tour. I guess you've got every county.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Now I have two more. I'm going to hit them
this week and so I will fulfill the promise I
made to get to every corner of the state by
the end of the year. So it's been great. I mean,
places that you know normally aren't big Republican strongholds, packed
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out rooms.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
We live in one of those called Richland County.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
I've been there, Where were you guys? And I would
have loved to hug and some support, but but lots
of great lots of great people, you know. And and
the one thing I've heard in those smaller counties like
there was one day we kind of clustered them together
and we did Bamberg and allen Dale and Barnwell and
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there were packed rooms in all places. And somebody kind
of laughed. I was mentioning it that I was in
Allendale and they said, oh, there's probably twelve Republicans in Allendale.
He probably shook hands with all of them. And I said,
you know what, it was a lot of people there,
and you know, I don't walk up and ask them
for their you know, GOP card, but they they were
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kind and they wanted sincerely to know about me and
what I stood for, and.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
They just thanked me. They're like, we don't get many
people to come here. And that's something I've been very
passionate about, is shaking everybody's hands, asking everybody for their vote,
because that's important. It equalizes all of us. We all
have one vote to give, and people want to be
asked for their support and for their vote. And it's
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been great. I know I'm going on and on about it,
but it has really been great to be in every
corner of the state.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Well, I have a.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Thank you for you, and I'm assuming you have part
of this, although there's got to be more people than
just me that have been worried about our water, in
particular in the state of South Carolina. And now the
Governor's announced the next step as it is with this commission.
Talk to us about where we are with this study.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Well, you know, we we kicked it off. You know,
you guys, you guys were one of the first people
that started talking about water. It seemed like once we
jump the hoop over energy and the energy bill passed,
we went right over into water. And so I met,
you know, this summer with Mayra Reeze from des and
her water commissioner, I guess we can call them the
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water commissioner that was formulating this plan, and they were
looking at all aspects in the ground, shallow water, deep water,
water runoff to kind of formulate a plan to say like, hey,
what should our consumption be. Let's take a look at
how water is being used let's take a kind of
look at who's able, you know, like how big allotments
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are going on. And so we're we're going to con
the study is going to continue to go as things change.
We're going to make sure that water doesn't become an
issue here like we've seen in other states that I
was at the National Lieutenant Governments Association on the chair
for that, and I can remember once Star Wars, Anthony,
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the lieutenant governor of Nevada, was talking about their water
issues because they have a lot of water issues, and
I can remember thinking like, isn't Nevada desert. It wasn't water.
It's just tough on mine for everybody all the time
when you live in a desert. And he just laughed.
But you know, it's something everybody's really concerned about, guys,
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because a lot of the you know, technology of the
future relies a lot on water and on energy. But
as we keep seeing these things are getting more and
more efficient where they're using less and less water and energy,
which makes it good. But we still have to keep
our eyes on the prize and we're going to continue
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to kind of fine tune the study. They're going to
continue to kind.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Of look at.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
You know, this goes hand in hand with something I've
been talking about a lot since I've been on the
campaign trail. Is us needing, you know, kind of a
master plan for the state. And that goes along with
some of these other things. Right if we if we
can look at where certain industries can go in the state,
what would match up ideally, And again, nothing that's so
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in stone that it can't be a bit fluid, but
just a good roadmap. And people really liked that is
one of the things really perks people up on the
campaign trail because it's things that people are talking about,
like where are we moving, what are we doing at
the infrastructure, what about water? What about our small world communities?
And how do we get industry to go there? And
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a state master plan has been part of my platform
to give everybody a good idea that you know, somebody
is watching and somebody is formulating a plan, and we're
going to grow South Carolina in the right way.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Lieutenant Governor Pamela Evitt on the phone with Jonathan and
Kelly here, you know, one of the master plans that
sometimes it's called redistricting, other times it's called jerrymandering. I
think it depends on which parties in control. I guess
and the other party says that's jerrymandering if it's ugly
to them. But there have been calls for redistricting and
jerrymandering throughout the country. Indiana recently rejected that proposal. The
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Republicans in charge said, we're not going to read district.
We're just going to leave it the way it is.
There's been some calls here to try to go after
James Cliburn's district and jerrymander that or redistrict it in
a way where it make it very competitive at least.
I saw the Indiana Republicans and I also heard Ran
Paul over the weekend talking about how they're concerned that
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if you start taking states and districts that have say
thirty five forty percent of one party, like in California,
basically forty percent of California's Republicans, and they're going to
have no Republican representation. That their concern is this is
how people begin to get frustrated and this could lead
to political violence. Is that a concern of yours or
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would you recommend that we do go after the sixth
district and try to get that to be a Republican
as well.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Guys, you know, first and foremost, once again, I want
to say thank you to President Trump. You know, I
find it rich when Democrats talk about this and how
unfair is when they've been doing it forever. And we
saw that in Massachusetts, right, what was it, forty some
percent voted for President Trump no Republican representation. I mean,
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this is stuff that Democrats have been doing forever. They
just kind of do it and don't talk about it.
And the rest of us that you know, are just
trying to educate our kids and feed our families and
keep our businesses going. We are paying attention and they
know that. And so President Trump brought it to the forefront.
And then everybody started going, wow, wait a minute, no wonder,
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no wonder, we're not seeing more seats in the House
now here in South Carolina. I feel like we've done
a really good job putting Republicans in the office. And
Politico asked me this question. They said, you know, a
congressman that's running for governor has been really outspoken about
wanting to get rid of the Congressman Clyburn and that
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that district should be redistricts, and guys, in all honesty,
like I haven't sat down. I'm pretty I'm a numbers person.
I mean, I'm an accountant by trade, and it would
seem to me that if we started cutting up his district,
we will now put it at risk possibly two other districts.
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And if that's the case, do not underestimate the will
of the Democrat Party to try to get their hands
on South Carolina seats. I would venture to say, and
this is just my prediction, we would see money come
into our state from the DNC like we have never
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seen in our lives, trying to get, you know, any
vulnerability they could get. So what I said is what
I'll continue to say, is if you could gear and
see that we could do a clean sweep, I think
that would be that'd be great. But I just don't
see it. And so what I never want to do
is put at risk any of our other Republicans seats.
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And my suggestion to everybody, it has always been for
seven years, is to get out and vote. We have
lots of you know, conservative minded people that don't vote,
but they will continue to complain about what happens in
their cities, what happens in their state and what happens
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in the country. But let's go back to if we
really want to get Republicans elected. I mean, I'm all
for closing our primaries. I'm all for making sure we
have you know, we've made it easier to vote and
harder to cheat. I want election integrity. But you know
President Trump said it best in the last election is
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we have to make it too big to rig. And
that means everybody getting out and we should all be
a little bit ashamed that in primaries that are not
in presidential years, we're lucky to get thirteen percent of
self ca MA Orlinians out to vote, and that means
there isn't a very good representation of who is you
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know representing you in wherever, in your local government, on
your school boards and state elections. So that is my
That is kind of my soapbox, guys, and I'm gonna
jump off of it. Is if we all really want
to make sure that we get Conservatives in office, then
get out and vote, and make sure you get your
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kids out to vote and your family out to vote,
and maybe the sweet little old person that lives next
door to you that doesn't have a ride somewhere, you know,
call them up the day before and say, hey, we're
going to go vote at eight o'clock in the morning.
Would you like to come with us. That's how we
get more Republicans in office, getting people out to vote.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
You mentioned how you've been traveling across the state, talking
specifically in the Good maatorial race about constituencies and constituency concerns,
and I was reading, I believe in the sc r
A area, maybe it was Aiken County. You were talking
with the sheriff who I think endorsed you there, and
there was a lot of discussion about technical colleges, and
I was speaking with another CEO recently was talking specifically
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about utilizing not only USC and Benedict, but also our
technical colleges and trying to now actually use more opportunities
to get into our high schools and middle schools because
of the technology coming and make sure that they're able
to grow a workforce not only specifically for the better
in the community, but for the betterment of their companies
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as they're looking for recruits in STEM. And although you've
spent a big initiative for you as well, not only
for our universities like your son who is a Clemson student,
but also for our technical studies. Talk to me a
little bit about more of your initiatives for tech colleges.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Oh my, So, I have been a huge fan of
our technical college system since before I was in office,
and I've talked about it since I've been Lieutenant governor
for now close to eight years, about how we are
blessed to have the best technical colleges in the world
here in South Carolina. How we have to stop looking
at our technical college system as a second tier option
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to a good, good, great career. But I want to
look at I want people to realize that when businesses
come here from not just across the country, but across
the globe, in part, it's our technical college systems that
are bringing them here, just like you said. But I
envision a day when I'm governor that we're you know,
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our technical college systems are feeding more, you know, our
high schools and our middle schools. You have to get
to these kids and talk to them about the amazing
programs we have. I've been talking about dual path enrollment
for seven years now, and most people you know, you
and I are people that kind of hear about it.
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Or in the bubble think everybody has heard about dual
path enrollment. But I'll tell you it's all is shocking
how many parents don't realize those opportunities. And so but
now when I you know, when you travel to every
nook of the state, you hear about the barriers in
some areas, rural areas to not be able to get
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to a technical college for a high school student. So
I have been doing a lot of listening and reading
on embedding accreditation programs into our into our high schools,
into you know, start that idea. You have to plant
the seed early on, but you can embed, you know,
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programs that will get some of these kids that don't
feel like they you know, either be exit on transportation
or finances, can't get to a technical college. Embed those
skill sets into their high school so that when they graduate,
every child is truly either work ready, military ready, or
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college ready. And guys, I think we do an awesome
job getting our kids college ready and military ready. It's
those kids that are saying, for whatever reason, I don't
want a secondary education, We're losing them. And being a
mom of three myself, I know that when my kids
feel like whatever it is, we're making them do has
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no positive outcome for them. They start to just turn
it off and walk away. And that could be a
reason that truancy is so high. You have kids that say, well,
I'm not looking to go to college, or I'm not
looking to go to technical college. So why am I
going if everything I have to do every day is
geared to that path. So if we can embed certification
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programs in high school, maybe it's a way to keep
kids engaged where they see that this work path that
they're looking for is there. And so that's something that
you really gets me excited, especially in rural areas.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Talking with the Lieutenant Governor, Pamela Evatt and you, much
like Donald Trump, don't like to consider yourself a politician
because you're a business person first who then kind of
evolved into politics. And you but you have been our
lieutenant governor since twenty eighteen. You've been around the game
a while. You recognize trends. And you were talking earlier
about the fact that the Democrats might want to throw
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a lot of money into South Carolina if they smelt
an opportunity here. I'm wondering how much influence do you
think money has overall. And I'm asking based off of
the twenty twenty Senate election here in South Carolina. I
don't know if it still holds the record, but at
the time was the most expensive Senate race in American history.
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Jamie Harrison became the first candidate in American history as
a senator or running for Senate to raise over one
hundred million, outspent Lindsey Graham by somewhere between thirty and
fifty million dollars and did not move the needle one inch.
It didn't change any votes. Apparently, it's the almost the
exact same results that you got in twenty fourteen and
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a non presidential year. Do you think that the that
the money, the dark money, the dirty money, has that
big of an influence or is that just something that
people are spreading.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
You know, I think money money can get your message out, guys,
and I think it really depends on the election. When
I talk to some of my colleagues that are in
house races, it's really easy easy. I say, nothing is
easy in this world. But you know, you can go
to your district and you can hit really popular places
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where people like to go, whether it be coffee shops
or restaurants or you know, the Walmart in your in
your district and shake a lot of hands and talk
to people, and money becomes a little bit less of
a factor because you have that personal touch. And really,
I believe if I could shake every hand in South Carolina,
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I think that would probably be the best thing that
I could do to shure up this governor's race, because
people want to see you, and they want to realize
your general and they're genuine and they want Everybody wants
to see like, how did that person make me feel?
You know, it's that old adage. Nobody remembers what you say,
it's how do you make them feel? And you can
do that one on one, But when you get to
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state wide races, I mean I have traveled to forty
four or the forty six counties as of today, and
I've barely scratched the surface on the amount of people
that I've actually touched and shook hands and said hello
to and and so money becomes much more important because
you know, you have a message. I feel like I
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have a great message that people really want. I'm a
business person. I started my business from scratch, I grew
it into a national company. People like that when they
when you're when they're looking to elect the CEO of
their state. I mean, I say this all the time.
If you wouldn't elect somebody to be the CEO of
your company, if you wouldn't trust they had the skill
set to do that, and why would you vote for
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them to be the CEO of your state. They still
have to have a skill set to get the things
done that people want, and so getting that message out
becomes very important, and money becomes a key factor. Whether
it's getting up on air and letting people know who
you're about, or it's sending out mailers. You got to
get your message out there. You got to get people
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excited about voting, and so money becomes a bigger factor
there because you just can't get everywhere. And you're right,
I think Ted Cruz's last election surpassed Senator Graham's last
election with Jamie Harrison. And you've got to remember in
that scenario, guys, you're talking about a general election where
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South Carolina is still predominantly Republican. So the majority of
people going out to vote in that general they're voting
again that's the Democrat, right they're voting against. Like the
Democrat playbook and it energizes them to get out and vote.
Let's talk about here in South Carolina, where the real
election is the primary, and we have to energize people
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to get out for that because that's really who's going
to be the next person that's sitting in office. So
when you're looking at the governor's race, when you're looking
at this Senate race, when you're looking at a congressional race,
you got to really be fine tuned in on who
is running for that seat in your party. And we
got to do better than thirteen percent because that's not
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a very strong representation of who's going to kind of
represent you in those offices.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Well, I know that your time is crucial every day
because you have a lot of people want to speak
with you. Thank you for carving now some time with us,
and we hope it as you go through the holidays.
Most people like right now trying to slow down a
little bit. I don't imagine being on the governor's trail
or the gubernatorial campaign allows you a whole lot of
family time, But we hope you have some as well.
Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, and I hope you have
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a great holiday season.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Well, guys, thank you so much. It's always a lot
of fun coming on your show and I look forward
to talking to y'all in twenty twenty six. To you,
your families and all your listeners on behalf of the
Avid Family who want to wish you a very merry Christmas,
a happy honakhuff that's what you're selling, and wishing everybody
just an abundance of blessings in twenty twenty six.
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Do you think the era ends?
Speaker 3 (00:06):
This is what I'm hoping that midterms people come out
and vote like crazy and then the reckon incomes everybody
that worked for ICE. I want them in jail, Kelly,
I don't mean no harm. If he would have said
shut a picket to me, I'd have been like, you
fat up, your stinking bastard, fat the horse you walked in.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
On Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
I have so many questions for Leslie Jones, by the way,
that she's one of the best people.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
That was that's a female. Yes, I was going to
ask you who that little ball of sunshine was. I
thought it was a gay guy.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
No, that's that's Leslie Jones from SNL fame. And that
was on a podcast called The Best People, and so
Cole Wallace tells you in promoting her podcast, these are
the best people I've ever met. So this is this
is the best. This is isn't get any better than this.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
So we want to arrest all the ICE agents.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yes, she wants the mid term, the Democrats to come
out from everywhere and vote, and then that way you
can take take over the House. And then I guess
she's going to impeach Donald Trump, and Pete head Seth
and Pam Bondy and the list goes on and on.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
You know, the no borders people, and I'm guessing Leslie
Jones is one of them. I'm sure if you've gotten
into America, you should stay in America. It's just an interest.
I'm trying to do the mental gymnastics that they must
have to do because a, especially if you're a black person,
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you would know that most of the jobs an estimated
seventy five percent of the jobs that illegals have taken
have come from black people. They've undercut the black people
who were at the bottom rung of the economic ladder
in the United States. They lost their jobs. So you're
attacking your own neighborhoods. On top of it, minority groups
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that live here from Central and South America overwhelmingly want
the border closed. Yes, why would they want that closed? Now?
Some of them, you know, are trying to make the
argument that it's like, well, they're like, I got minds,
forget y'all's pull up the ladder behind me. So they're
just evil. So you're now saying that the legal immigrants
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in America are bad people. The only good people in
your mental gymnastics are the illegals. So that's why we're
doing everything we can to fight for the illegals.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I guess, well, it's not that she wouldn't see how
it hurts her neighborhood because she doesn't live in that neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
I'm sure. Well, she grew up in that neighborhood, but she.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Has long since been separated out of that neighborhood, so
it doesn't affect her or her circle. And apparently she
doesn't have any friends from her old neighborhood she grew
up up with. She left them behind.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
So, but the current legal immigrants here are bad people
because they don't want these illegals here. And then you know,
I mean because again, so I left. If I left
whatever Nicaragua, I left, whatever country I was in, it
was because it was there was bad people there. Now
they're coming here. I don't want them coming here because
(03:22):
they're the bad people.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
They're either bad people that you're getting away from, like
the game violence, or there's a bad person like the
authoritarian on top of the government that you're running from.
But nonetheless you have gotten here now. So her argument,
I guess would be here's another gymnastic hoop she's got
to jump through. So her argument would be, if you
came here legally in the past, like let's say five years,
(03:44):
just throw out the number five years that you need
to go because you're trying to hold the other people back. Yes,
you're so greedy you have to go. Yes.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
And then you know the other thing is when they
make the argument of well, we need these people here
because who, like, as jess Mincrocat said, who's going to
pick that cotton? Y'all? We're done picking cotton. So now
you've just identified the illegals as the new slaves. I
(04:16):
mean that's you're literally using the same argument that slaveholders
held in the eighteen hundreds. In the seventeen hundreds, who's
going to.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Pick it, you whitey, And we're going to be so abusive,
we're doing away with all of the mechanical engineering that
we've advanced over the past fifty ten decades nine, so
that you have to literally have to go back out
and pick the cotton by hand.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Well, I you know, and I understand that she was
using that as a metaphor, but I mean, you know,
who's going to work on that chicken pipe.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I don't know that she I don't know that she
knows that. I think she still thinks cotton's picked by hand.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Well, it's whatever job is on the bottom rung of
the economic ladder.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Sure, who's going to sweep up, who's going to mop
up the blood, who's going to walk, who's washing dishes,
who's doing the laundry, who's going to clean the restaurants,
who's going to clean the hotels. Who's going to cut
my yard, trim my shrubbery?
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yeah, I mean, hello, there are people who will do that.
There are Americans. It probably will cost a little bit more.
This is not new. I mean in the eighties, I
remember people would lose nominations for like ambassadorships and stuff
because they had hired an illegal alien to be the
(05:30):
nanny or to be the housekeeper. Now you're applauded for it.
Now you're supporting it.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
This is not a good thing. Now you're a saint
for hiring the illegal.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
I'm sure she has plenty she pays. All right, Wait
a minute, Hold on a second again with a double
secret probationary hotline. Kelly Nash, Welcome back on the phone
at the Lieutenant Governor Pamela Evant, Good morning.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Good morning guys, Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah. I mean, I
was in Charleston last night for the Hana Khan the Square.
A great turnout despite you know, I was so happy
everybody turned out because I was really worried with the
tragedy that happened in Australia that it was going to
make people nervous and you know, not come out. But
(06:15):
it didn't. And I think that just shows who we
are here in South Carolina. Police presence was really high.
Thank you to all of our law enforcement and and
you know, the only time darkness wins is when it's
we can't shine a light on it, and that light
are the people and showing up and not backing down.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Mentioned you were down in Charleston. You've been on your
keep South Carolina. Great tour. I guess you've got every county.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Now I have two more. I'm going to hit them
this week and so I will fulfill the promise I
made to get to every corner of the state by
the end of the year. So it's been great. I mean,
places that you know normally aren't big Republican strongholds, packed
(07:03):
out rooms.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
We live in one of those called Richland County.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
I've been there, Where were you guys? And I would
have loved to hug and some support, but but lots
of great lots of great people, you know. And and
the one thing I've heard in those smaller counties like
there was one day we kind of clustered them together
and we did Bamberg and allen Dale and Barnwell and
(07:32):
there were packed rooms in all places. And somebody kind
of laughed. I was mentioning it that I was in
Allendale and they said, oh, there's probably twelve Republicans in Allendale.
He probably shook hands with all of them. And I said,
you know what, it was a lot of people there,
and you know, I don't walk up and ask them
for their you know, GOP card, but they they were
(07:53):
kind and they wanted sincerely to know about me and
what I stood for, and.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
They just thanked me. They're like, we don't get many
people to come here. And that's something I've been very
passionate about, is shaking everybody's hands, asking everybody for their vote,
because that's important. It equalizes all of us. We all
have one vote to give, and people want to be
asked for their support and for their vote. And it's
(08:22):
been great. I know I'm going on and on about it,
but it has really been great to be in every
corner of the state.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Well, I have a.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Thank you for you, and I'm assuming you have part
of this, although there's got to be more people than
just me that have been worried about our water, in
particular in the state of South Carolina. And now the
Governor's announced the next step as it is with this commission.
Talk to us about where we are with this study.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Well, you know, we we kicked it off. You know,
you guys, you guys were one of the first people
that started talking about water. It seemed like once we
jump the hoop over energy and the energy bill passed,
we went right over into water. And so I met,
you know, this summer with Mayra Reeze from des and
her water commissioner, I guess we can call them the
(09:05):
water commissioner that was formulating this plan, and they were
looking at all aspects in the ground, shallow water, deep water,
water runoff to kind of formulate a plan to say like, hey,
what should our consumption be. Let's take a look at
how water is being used let's take a kind of
look at who's able, you know, like how big allotments
(09:29):
are going on. And so we're we're going to con
the study is going to continue to go as things change.
We're going to make sure that water doesn't become an
issue here like we've seen in other states that I
was at the National Lieutenant Governments Association on the chair
for that, and I can remember once Star Wars, Anthony,
(09:49):
the lieutenant governor of Nevada, was talking about their water
issues because they have a lot of water issues, and
I can remember thinking like, isn't Nevada desert. It wasn't water.
It's just tough on mine for everybody all the time
when you live in a desert. And he just laughed.
But you know, it's something everybody's really concerned about, guys,
(10:10):
because a lot of the you know, technology of the
future relies a lot on water and on energy. But
as we keep seeing these things are getting more and
more efficient where they're using less and less water and energy,
which makes it good. But we still have to keep
our eyes on the prize and we're going to continue
(10:30):
to kind of fine tune the study. They're going to
continue to kind.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Of look at.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
You know, this goes hand in hand with something I've
been talking about a lot since I've been on the
campaign trail. Is us needing, you know, kind of a
master plan for the state. And that goes along with
some of these other things. Right if we if we
can look at where certain industries can go in the state,
what would match up ideally, And again, nothing that's so
(10:58):
in stone that it can't be a bit fluid, but
just a good roadmap. And people really liked that is
one of the things really perks people up on the
campaign trail because it's things that people are talking about,
like where are we moving, what are we doing at
the infrastructure, what about water? What about our small world communities?
And how do we get industry to go there? And
(11:20):
a state master plan has been part of my platform
to give everybody a good idea that you know, somebody
is watching and somebody is formulating a plan, and we're
going to grow South Carolina in the right way.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Lieutenant Governor Pamela Evitt on the phone with Jonathan and
Kelly here, you know, one of the master plans that
sometimes it's called redistricting, other times it's called jerrymandering. I
think it depends on which parties in control. I guess
and the other party says that's jerrymandering if it's ugly
to them. But there have been calls for redistricting and
jerrymandering throughout the country. Indiana recently rejected that proposal. The
(11:58):
Republicans in charge said, we're not going to read district.
We're just going to leave it the way it is.
There's been some calls here to try to go after
James Cliburn's district and jerrymander that or redistrict it in
a way where it make it very competitive at least.
I saw the Indiana Republicans and I also heard Ran
Paul over the weekend talking about how they're concerned that
(12:19):
if you start taking states and districts that have say
thirty five forty percent of one party, like in California,
basically forty percent of California's Republicans, and they're going to
have no Republican representation. That their concern is this is
how people begin to get frustrated and this could lead
to political violence. Is that a concern of yours or
(12:43):
would you recommend that we do go after the sixth
district and try to get that to be a Republican
as well.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Guys, you know, first and foremost, once again, I want
to say thank you to President Trump. You know, I
find it rich when Democrats talk about this and how
unfair is when they've been doing it forever. And we
saw that in Massachusetts, right, what was it, forty some
percent voted for President Trump no Republican representation. I mean,
(13:12):
this is stuff that Democrats have been doing forever. They
just kind of do it and don't talk about it.
And the rest of us that you know, are just
trying to educate our kids and feed our families and
keep our businesses going. We are paying attention and they
know that. And so President Trump brought it to the forefront.
And then everybody started going, wow, wait a minute, no wonder,
(13:34):
no wonder, we're not seeing more seats in the House
now here in South Carolina. I feel like we've done
a really good job putting Republicans in the office. And
Politico asked me this question. They said, you know, a
congressman that's running for governor has been really outspoken about
wanting to get rid of the Congressman Clyburn and that
(13:56):
that district should be redistricts, and guys, in all honesty,
like I haven't sat down. I'm pretty I'm a numbers person.
I mean, I'm an accountant by trade, and it would
seem to me that if we started cutting up his district,
we will now put it at risk possibly two other districts.
(14:18):
And if that's the case, do not underestimate the will
of the Democrat Party to try to get their hands
on South Carolina seats. I would venture to say, and
this is just my prediction, we would see money come
into our state from the DNC like we have never
(14:40):
seen in our lives, trying to get, you know, any
vulnerability they could get. So what I said is what
I'll continue to say, is if you could gear and
see that we could do a clean sweep, I think
that would be that'd be great. But I just don't
see it. And so what I never want to do
is put at risk any of our other Republicans seats.
(15:01):
And my suggestion to everybody, it has always been for
seven years, is to get out and vote. We have
lots of you know, conservative minded people that don't vote,
but they will continue to complain about what happens in
their cities, what happens in their state and what happens
(15:22):
in the country. But let's go back to if we
really want to get Republicans elected. I mean, I'm all
for closing our primaries. I'm all for making sure we
have you know, we've made it easier to vote and
harder to cheat. I want election integrity. But you know
President Trump said it best in the last election is
(15:45):
we have to make it too big to rig. And
that means everybody getting out and we should all be
a little bit ashamed that in primaries that are not
in presidential years, we're lucky to get thirteen percent of
self ca MA Orlinians out to vote, and that means
there isn't a very good representation of who is you
(16:08):
know representing you in wherever, in your local government, on
your school boards and state elections. So that is my
That is kind of my soapbox, guys, and I'm gonna
jump off of it. Is if we all really want
to make sure that we get Conservatives in office, then
get out and vote, and make sure you get your
(16:29):
kids out to vote and your family out to vote,
and maybe the sweet little old person that lives next
door to you that doesn't have a ride somewhere, you know,
call them up the day before and say, hey, we're
going to go vote at eight o'clock in the morning.
Would you like to come with us. That's how we
get more Republicans in office, getting people out to vote.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
You mentioned how you've been traveling across the state, talking
specifically in the Good maatorial race about constituencies and constituency concerns,
and I was reading, I believe in the sc r
A area, maybe it was Aiken County. You were talking
with the sheriff who I think endorsed you there, and
there was a lot of discussion about technical colleges, and
I was speaking with another CEO recently was talking specifically
(17:11):
about utilizing not only USC and Benedict, but also our
technical colleges and trying to now actually use more opportunities
to get into our high schools and middle schools because
of the technology coming and make sure that they're able
to grow a workforce not only specifically for the better
in the community, but for the betterment of their companies
(17:32):
as they're looking for recruits in STEM. And although you've
spent a big initiative for you as well, not only
for our universities like your son who is a Clemson student,
but also for our technical studies. Talk to me a
little bit about more of your initiatives for tech colleges.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Oh my, So, I have been a huge fan of
our technical college system since before I was in office,
and I've talked about it since I've been Lieutenant governor
for now close to eight years, about how we are
blessed to have the best technical colleges in the world
here in South Carolina. How we have to stop looking
at our technical college system as a second tier option
(18:10):
to a good, good, great career. But I want to
look at I want people to realize that when businesses
come here from not just across the country, but across
the globe, in part, it's our technical college systems that
are bringing them here, just like you said. But I
envision a day when I'm governor that we're you know,
(18:33):
our technical college systems are feeding more, you know, our
high schools and our middle schools. You have to get
to these kids and talk to them about the amazing
programs we have. I've been talking about dual path enrollment
for seven years now, and most people you know, you
and I are people that kind of hear about it.
(18:55):
Or in the bubble think everybody has heard about dual
path enrollment. But I'll tell you it's all is shocking
how many parents don't realize those opportunities. And so but
now when I you know, when you travel to every
nook of the state, you hear about the barriers in
some areas, rural areas to not be able to get
(19:16):
to a technical college for a high school student. So
I have been doing a lot of listening and reading
on embedding accreditation programs into our into our high schools,
into you know, start that idea. You have to plant
the seed early on, but you can embed, you know,
(19:39):
programs that will get some of these kids that don't
feel like they you know, either be exit on transportation
or finances, can't get to a technical college. Embed those
skill sets into their high school so that when they graduate,
every child is truly either work ready, military ready, or
(20:01):
college ready. And guys, I think we do an awesome
job getting our kids college ready and military ready. It's
those kids that are saying, for whatever reason, I don't
want a secondary education, We're losing them. And being a
mom of three myself, I know that when my kids
feel like whatever it is, we're making them do has
(20:24):
no positive outcome for them. They start to just turn
it off and walk away. And that could be a
reason that truancy is so high. You have kids that say, well,
I'm not looking to go to college, or I'm not
looking to go to technical college. So why am I
going if everything I have to do every day is
geared to that path. So if we can embed certification
(20:48):
programs in high school, maybe it's a way to keep
kids engaged where they see that this work path that
they're looking for is there. And so that's something that
you really gets me excited, especially in rural areas.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Talking with the Lieutenant Governor, Pamela Evatt and you, much
like Donald Trump, don't like to consider yourself a politician
because you're a business person first who then kind of
evolved into politics. And you but you have been our
lieutenant governor since twenty eighteen. You've been around the game
a while. You recognize trends. And you were talking earlier
about the fact that the Democrats might want to throw
(21:25):
a lot of money into South Carolina if they smelt
an opportunity here. I'm wondering how much influence do you
think money has overall. And I'm asking based off of
the twenty twenty Senate election here in South Carolina. I
don't know if it still holds the record, but at
the time was the most expensive Senate race in American history.
(21:48):
Jamie Harrison became the first candidate in American history as
a senator or running for Senate to raise over one
hundred million, outspent Lindsey Graham by somewhere between thirty and
fifty million dollars and did not move the needle one inch.
It didn't change any votes. Apparently, it's the almost the
exact same results that you got in twenty fourteen and
(22:09):
a non presidential year. Do you think that the that
the money, the dark money, the dirty money, has that
big of an influence or is that just something that
people are spreading.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
You know, I think money money can get your message out, guys,
and I think it really depends on the election. When
I talk to some of my colleagues that are in
house races, it's really easy easy. I say, nothing is
easy in this world. But you know, you can go
to your district and you can hit really popular places
(22:43):
where people like to go, whether it be coffee shops
or restaurants or you know, the Walmart in your in
your district and shake a lot of hands and talk
to people, and money becomes a little bit less of
a factor because you have that personal touch. And really,
I believe if I could shake every hand in South Carolina,
(23:04):
I think that would probably be the best thing that
I could do to shure up this governor's race, because
people want to see you, and they want to realize
your general and they're genuine and they want Everybody wants
to see like, how did that person make me feel?
You know, it's that old adage. Nobody remembers what you say,
it's how do you make them feel? And you can
do that one on one, But when you get to
(23:25):
state wide races, I mean I have traveled to forty
four or the forty six counties as of today, and
I've barely scratched the surface on the amount of people
that I've actually touched and shook hands and said hello
to and and so money becomes much more important because
you know, you have a message. I feel like I
(23:46):
have a great message that people really want. I'm a
business person. I started my business from scratch, I grew
it into a national company. People like that when they
when you're when they're looking to elect the CEO of
their state. I mean, I say this all the time.
If you wouldn't elect somebody to be the CEO of
your company, if you wouldn't trust they had the skill
set to do that, and why would you vote for
(24:08):
them to be the CEO of your state. They still
have to have a skill set to get the things
done that people want, and so getting that message out
becomes very important, and money becomes a key factor. Whether
it's getting up on air and letting people know who
you're about, or it's sending out mailers. You got to
get your message out there. You got to get people
(24:29):
excited about voting, and so money becomes a bigger factor
there because you just can't get everywhere. And you're right,
I think Ted Cruz's last election surpassed Senator Graham's last
election with Jamie Harrison. And you've got to remember in
that scenario, guys, you're talking about a general election where
(24:51):
South Carolina is still predominantly Republican. So the majority of
people going out to vote in that general they're voting
again that's the Democrat, right they're voting against. Like the
Democrat playbook and it energizes them to get out and vote.
Let's talk about here in South Carolina, where the real
election is the primary, and we have to energize people
(25:13):
to get out for that because that's really who's going
to be the next person that's sitting in office. So
when you're looking at the governor's race, when you're looking
at this Senate race, when you're looking at a congressional race,
you got to really be fine tuned in on who
is running for that seat in your party. And we
got to do better than thirteen percent because that's not
(25:35):
a very strong representation of who's going to kind of
represent you in those offices.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Well, I know that your time is crucial every day
because you have a lot of people want to speak
with you. Thank you for carving now some time with us,
and we hope it as you go through the holidays.
Most people like right now trying to slow down a
little bit. I don't imagine being on the governor's trail
or the gubernatorial campaign allows you a whole lot of
family time, But we hope you have some as well.
Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, and I hope you have
(26:04):
a great holiday season.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Well, guys, thank you so much. It's always a lot
of fun coming on your show and I look forward
to talking to y'all in twenty twenty six. To you,
your families and all your listeners on behalf of the
Avid Family who want to wish you a very merry Christmas,
a happy honakhuff that's what you're selling, and wishing everybody
just an abundance of blessings in twenty twenty six.
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