122124 The Jonathon and Kelly Show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Jonathan Rush, it's supposed to be about keeping government operations
open and providing disaster relief aid to hurricane victims. If
you read the bill carefully, it contains pay raises for
members of Congress. And I'm not making this up an
expansion of their federal health benefit.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
Kelly Nash, you know what has it been ten years
or fourteen years of no COLA, no change at all.

Speaker 4 (00:25):
I think it's about time something.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Sent Jonathan and Kelly Show.

Speaker 5 (00:29):
Woc Well, that was obviously a reference to the first
offering that Speaker Johnson brought to the House floor. It's
Saturday morning. We record this on Fridays, and Kelly Nash,
we can't speak about what happened. Hopefully the government has
worked itself out.

Speaker 4 (00:48):
It always does Jonathan's end. It always finds a way
to preserve itself.

Speaker 5 (00:54):
Whenever Congress in their age old fashions of running it
down to the deadline. We have to get home and
get out of Congress and make sure that our TSA
agents and everyone's getting paid. They always get paid. Our
TSA agents are happy. So that when you go through
the airports, the federal government is showing it's serving the people.

Speaker 6 (01:15):
Well.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
I like the fact that Nancy Mace took a fantastic photograph.
She showed you the continuing resolution that they proposed last time,
which was like twelve pages, and she has it next
to this year's fifteen hundred page. I mean, what they're
doing on the Democrat side is absolute insanity right now.
All right, we can get into some of that in

(01:36):
the segment three. Okay, Now, as we wrap up the year,
we got a couple of things.

Speaker 5 (01:39):
We've got a lot of interviews to put on the
air for you today and for next week. Today, specifically,
we'll be talking with Congressman Joe Wilson.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
We're going to talk to our Secretary Superintendent, i should say,
of Education, Ellen Weaver. She's got some big plans for
twenty twenty five.

Speaker 5 (01:54):
Yeah, we've talked about the budget plan that she's presented.
And also we'll speak with our Lieutenant Governor, Pamela.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
You say it better than anybody else in the state.
She points that out.

Speaker 5 (02:04):
She does point that out, and I'm glad to do
it for you. Our Lieutenant Governor, Pamblea Evatt is very
excited about the upcoming legislative session here in Columbia, and
we can talk to her in segment four. First, let's
go to the double secret probationary hotline number for the
Jonathan and Kelly Show. Kelly Nash, welcome on the phone,
you asked Congressman Joe Wilson.

Speaker 7 (02:24):
Good morning, Hello, good morning, And as we conclude the year,
I just want to wish everyone a very very Christmas
in a happy new year. And it will be a
happy new year because on January the twentieth we have
a new president. Thank god.

Speaker 5 (02:37):
I'm counting down the days I actually would forego my
Christmas if we could actually make January twentieth magically become today.

Speaker 7 (02:45):
Hey, Jonathan, you're right again, because Hey, it's sad too
because the current president, whatever his name is, he has
no capability.

Speaker 6 (02:53):
Well, it's got plenty of capability.

Speaker 5 (02:55):
And I'm wondering, is there any way you guys can
step in and stop the amount of money that he
continues to throw away on his Christmas wish list as
he takes our tax payer money and spends it unbelievably
wildly across the planet while at the same time selling
off our boreder materials. We're gonna need for pennies on
the dollar. This man has got to be stopped.

Speaker 7 (03:15):
It really is said as Joe Biden is fleeing from
the office that he's wasting American taxpayers money. The good
news is that we will be able beginning on January
the third. We have a new Congress coming in will
begin immediately to start reprogramming funds to stop what Biden
is doing of just throwing the money away. And then,
of course the most disgraceful you hit it on the

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head to take the fencing material that has been sitting
available as Donald Trump provided to build a fence to
protect American people. They are selling it for pennies on
the dollar, giving it away. And now one thing that
could be possible is for Donald Trump to buy the
equipment back. It would be super to buy it Backtims,
somebody who they gave it to. But the bottom line,

(03:59):
if the whole thing, it's just such a spectacle of
insult to the American people.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
As we watched Joe Biden in his final days try
to destroy America even more aggressively than when he was
just a regular commander in chief. One of the things
that he's doing or at least considering doing seems very dangerous,
and it's called the preemptive pardon. You haven't been a

(04:23):
charge with a crime, but if the crime was ever
to be revealed, you've already got blanket immunity from the president.
Is that even I mean, is that something that the
Republicans can challenge if he comes out with these preemptive
pardons of people Kelly?

Speaker 7 (04:39):
Indeed, there will be a challenge. And of course the
greatest insult just disgusting the partnering of his son Hunter,
but not paying taxes. It's inconceivable that something so basic
that all of us feel an obligation to do, and
that is pay our taxes. And Hunter I did not
pay taxes for four years. Who knows how much money

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he made, which we know the level of corruption, but
at the same time, not to pay taxes and just
to excuse it. So over and over again, there'll be
real efforts to go back and determine what's going on.

Speaker 5 (05:10):
I would love to hear Donald Trump come out of
the press conference and say, for those persons who are
buying the materials at the border that we desperately need
to secure our nation. If you are a company that
is buying that material for pennies on the dollar. Just
know you will never get another government contract again. You'll
never be able to do business with the government again.
Do not buy that material. We've got to find a

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way to stop this. We're throwing away millions of dollars
and more importantly, the money it will take in the
time it will take to reconstruct those panels beginning January twentieth.

Speaker 7 (05:41):
Hey, what a great suggestion. And indeed, Donald Trump does
things that are so realistic, and we see that in
his dealing with the monks. He says they's hell to
pay if they don't release the hostages, and so he's
quite clear on what he is intending to do. And
then we can also nticipate significant action against the regime

(06:03):
in Tehran since they actually sent assassins over looking for
Donald Trump, and so that could be held to pay.

Speaker 4 (06:10):
You're my representative in Congress. Yeah, do you have any
answers for me and the people of South Carolina regarding
these drones that are apparently moving further and further south.
We had sightings in Charlotte over the weekend. Any what
is happening? Any ideas well?

Speaker 7 (06:28):
It's just inexcusable but and it reinforces. What a way
for Biden to leave office, and that is total confusion
with New York is to say there's no problem. Remember
he's the one who said the border is secure too
over and over again. The credibility of our government, which
I think is said because I want the American government
to be trustworthy, but with the Biden administration it will not.

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And the good news is with the new Congress coming
in to January the third, with the new president on
January the twentieth, immediately every will be made to restore
credibility and trustworthiness in our government.

Speaker 5 (07:04):
Politicians love to say we can chew them and walk
at the same time. I don't believe Joe Biden can
drink from a sippy cup while being rolled in a
wheelchair at the same time. But when you hit the
House floor January third, I know we have three or
four priorities. But one of the things that's going to
be the biggest is making sure that we get the
economy back on track. And they're talking about reconciliation bills,

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which you know is going to slow down the process.
Give Democrats an opportunity to get a stronghold in the conversation.

Speaker 6 (07:30):
How are we going to maneuver.

Speaker 5 (07:31):
Through this so the Democrats aren't able to fight you
even though you have a majority.

Speaker 6 (07:35):
It's only slim.

Speaker 7 (07:36):
Oh and it's slim.

Speaker 8 (07:37):
It's two.

Speaker 7 (07:38):
But at the same time, we have a good leader
with Speaker Mike Johnson, and we will on day one
begin an attenda to provide for restoring and promoting the economy,
creating jobs. And one of the first things that will
be done is to maintain the Trump Task cuts because
they will expire. But these were ones that really stimulated

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creation in America, created such opportunity and until COVID, the
economic policies of Donald Trump creating long lasting jobs and
economic opportunity for the American people.

Speaker 5 (08:11):
Congressman, I know you're short on time. We thank you
as always for taking the time to talk to us.
Rest up, my friend, because January third is coming.

Speaker 7 (08:18):
And Jonathan Kelly, I want to thank you. Talk radio
makes and you've heard me say so many times because
it's true. Talk radio has been so important and I
think it was a critical part of the Trump movement.
The talk radio capabilities of getting the truth out to
the American people, and that's why we'll be having real
change January the twentieth, and it'll be positive for the

(08:41):
American people. And hey, we can already see that around
the world there's been a renewed respect to the United
States and understanding peace through strength.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
Maga my man, Maga, Maga.

Speaker 7 (08:51):
Christmas to you, Maga New Year even better.

Speaker 6 (08:56):
Thank you, Congressman Joe Wilson.

Speaker 5 (08:58):
Now that interview has in as all of them you
will hear today edited for the time restraints only of
this program, and you can hear them in their entirety
when you link to our podcast.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
That's right. You can find the rash Thought podcast on
the iHeartRadio app. And coming up next big changes for
the kids in the school system, possibly maybe even some
changes for the parents.

Speaker 5 (09:19):
Next year, we'll talk with our Superintendent of Education, Ellen Weaver.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Next The Jonathan and Kelly Show.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Jonathan Rush, I'm excited to go and we were discussing,
said Massa, maybe you know, go for more.

Speaker 5 (09:35):
I'm going to ask him right now, would you make
it two hundred billion dollars?

Speaker 1 (09:39):
I said Kelly Nash.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
I think you know with you have d ship, I'll
try to make it happen, all.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
Right, two hundred The Jonathan and Kelly show woc.

Speaker 5 (09:53):
Plainly demonstrating he is the most proactive president elect. He's
pretty much opened up the Office South, the Southern Oval
Office is open for business, and we were already generating business.

Speaker 6 (10:05):
Donald D.

Speaker 5 (10:05):
Trump is working at That was the Soft Bank CEO.

Speaker 4 (10:09):
But on Thursday I thought that when you said the
White House South, I thought you were talking about the
one in Texas where Elon Musk is.

Speaker 6 (10:15):
We're getting into that great segment.

Speaker 5 (10:18):
Three. Hey, this is Jonathan Russire's Kelly Nash. Earlier this
week we had an opportunity to speak with our Superintendent
of Education, Ellen Weaver.

Speaker 9 (10:26):
Good morning and Mary Christmas.

Speaker 5 (10:28):
Y'all, Mary Christmas, I got my Christmas present from your office.
I opened without previewing and hit print the PDF for
the fiscal year twenty five twenty six Agency budget Plan.
That's a lot of information.

Speaker 9 (10:41):
Well, I hope I can give you maybe just a
quick preview. It's really all about supporting student learning, ensuring
that our teachers have the tools that they need to
do their job, and then making sure that our learning
environments are safe. About how about that for a synopsis?

Speaker 4 (10:56):
I like it? Is it going to cost us a
lot of money?

Speaker 9 (10:58):
Well, you know, ducation is not cheap, but I firmly
believe that that when we're talking about the budget and education,
it's not about the amount of money we spend, it's
about how we're spending it. And that's really what I've
been focused on here at the Department is aligning our
spending for impact. You know, we've talked in past conversations
about how important early literacy is, and the General Assembly

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has really stepped up to support our transition in South
Carolina to using phonics and the science of reading to
teach our students. We're focused on increasing our math outcomes
and making sure that our students in every community in
South Carolina have access to high quality career and technical
training because we know college isn't for everyone and there

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are many wonderful ways to make a great living and
support a family that does not include a four year degree.
So those are some of the things that we're focused
on really spending and leveraging that money for impact.

Speaker 5 (11:57):
A large percentage of the listeners to this podcast probably
you've read a couple of articles and include your starting
salary being increased to fifty thousand dollars a year for teachers,
but can you expand a little more on your strategic
compensation pilot program for teachers?

Speaker 6 (12:12):
What is that?

Speaker 9 (12:13):
So what we have to do is figure out ways
to continue to attract our very best teachers to the
schools and classrooms where their talents are needed most. And so,
whether that is working with a challenging student population such
as our English language learners or our students with special needs,
whether that is working in a rural community that maybe

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doesn't always have access to a lot of high quality teaching,
it's all about getting those best teachers into those most
challenging classrooms. And so strategic compensation is a way for
us to pay teachers more for the hard work that
they do and also to award our very best teachers

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who are delivering outstanding outcomes for students. We at the
Department of Education are currently running two different school districts,
Allendale and Williamsburg, and we actually this last year unveiled
strategic compensation there and we had some teachers in each
of those districts that earned anywhere from ten thousand dollars

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to twenty five thousand dollars of extra pay and it
was all tied to the amazing academic outcomes that they
were delivering for students, and I mean, that's life changing
money really for any of us, but for those teachers,
it really transformed even how they thought about their long
term decision to stay in a classroom. It's a great

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retention tool. So that's what we mean when we're talking
about strategic compensation.

Speaker 5 (13:40):
Also coming up in this legislative session, the school voucher program.
Twenty twenty five is going to be an interesting year
for this particular program, given the legislator's got to go
back and rewrite the law and now you've got competing
lawsuits and persons who don't want to see that money
spent that way. Meantime, you got parents suing to make
sure the part of the money they've already received continues
so that they can continue to for their kids. And

(14:01):
you mentioned how involved parents are getting in this particular issue.
But I'm assuming that we also have the other side
of the coin, because part of your initiative for this
coming year is going to be strengthening literacy with summer
reading camps. I'm old enough to remember when the weekly
Reader came in the mailbox and my mom would make
me sit down and do it every day. But apparently
we're having to set up camps now for kids whose

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parents are totally.

Speaker 6 (14:24):
Ininvolved with their education. Am I reading into that too much?

Speaker 9 (14:27):
I don't know that I would frame it quite that way.
I would say that, you know, we know that there
are students who are struggling with their reading, and we
want to make sure that those students have access year
round to the very best interventions that are out there,
interventions that again are based in that science of reading
that a parent may or may not be trained in.
And so I think getting students in the summer access,

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especially our students who we know are struggling with reading,
to prevent what we know happens a lot of times
over the summer, that summer slide, that learning loss that happens.
And so that's really what this is all about. South
Carolina's reading law actually says that if a student is
in the lowest performing rating when it comes to their
literacy at the end of third grade, that they are

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actually eligible to be retained and to receive additional intensive interventions,
because we know that if we keep promoting students along
after third grade when they can't read, they just fall
further and further and further behind. So that's really what
these summer reading camps are meant to address.

Speaker 5 (15:30):
You know, I'm not too proud to admit my ignorance,
even to the South Carolina Superintendent of Education. So I
will do this. But as I've read about your initiatives here,
I was not aware of. And maybe it's because this
is a new idea, the Education Infrastructure Bank, in particular
for rural and charter schools. And I know we've got
a gosh an age old debate over whether we spend

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enough money in our rural schools as opposed to the
more populous counties of our state. Is this a new
idea or has this already been in place? But we're
going to put more money in and how that money
will be used.

Speaker 9 (16:04):
This is a culmination of several years of work. So
we know that, especially in our rural communities, there simply
is not a tax base to oftentimes support the infrastructure
needs of the school. And we're talking about school buildings
in some cases that are seventy, eighty, ninety, even one
hundred years old. I've been in one hundred year old
school building, and you know, these districts do everything they

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can to try to maintain these buildings safely and well
for their students, but you know there's going to be
maintenance that needs to be done, and sometimes there's just
not a tax base to support that. And so over
the last few years, the General Assembly has in kind
of an ad hoc fashion, put some money in the
budget that the state Department has been able to work
with local districts who have real needs and challenges in

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their infrastructure to address some of those needs. There are
some new schools that have been built, there are some
schools that have been consolidated and built. But the fact
is is that even with over half a billion dollars
that has been invested over the last few years, and
that we still have enormous needs. And that doesn't even
begin to have the conversation about charter schools. Charter schools

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actually do not receive infrastructure funding, so the way that
they pay for their buildings oftentimes is taking money directly
out of the classroom because they simply don't have transportation
funds or infrastructure building funds. They don't have access to
the local infrastructure taxes that our traditional districts do. And

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so this infrastructure bank idea is a way for us
to start to sustainably address these needs that we have.

Speaker 4 (17:40):
Well, I know we've exhausted your time here, so we're
going to say thank you and Merry Christmas, Happy New Year.

Speaker 9 (17:46):
Well, thank you so much. I'm excited for the new year.
We have so much opportunity ahead and I'm really grateful
to you all for the conversation.

Speaker 8 (17:52):
As always.

Speaker 5 (17:53):
By the way, I was just looking at your budget
planned summary for you printed and signed your name. Yes,
educators have the best handwrs. That is quite an impressive significance.

Speaker 9 (18:04):
I'll tell my second grade cursa teacher.

Speaker 6 (18:06):
You said so and again.

Speaker 5 (18:07):
That interview was edited heavily. She spent a lot of
time with us on the phone. If you'd like to
learn more about the initiatives presented to the General Assembly
for Education, you can do that on our podcast.

Speaker 4 (18:17):
Look for the Rash Thought podcast on the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 5 (18:19):
All right, we still have yet to become an opportunity
for you to hear a conversation with our Lieutenant Governor,
Pamela Ebatt and swamp Talk.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Next final one of the year, the Jonathan and Kelly Show.
Jonathan Rush It was a male and a female.

Speaker 10 (18:33):
They were accosted by approximately thirteen to fifteen armed individuals.
There is a high assumption that they may be affiliated
or affiliated with the TDA gang.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Kelly Nash I had.

Speaker 10 (18:44):
A discussion with an individual from the White House, and
that person basically told me that, hey, once these immigrants could.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
Across the border, that's all we really care about.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
The Jonathan and Kelly show woc another example.

Speaker 5 (18:59):
Trump was right. There are game members coming across the
southern border taking over apartment complexes in Aurora. Certainly there
are other gang activities going on all across the country.
And then the glimpse inside the White House, they don't care.
As soon as they get them across the border, this's
all they're concerned about.

Speaker 4 (19:14):
I wonder what the president Musk is going to say
about this?

Speaker 2 (19:17):
Is it?

Speaker 4 (19:18):
By the way, if Trump was Hitler during the campaign,
Now that they're claiming that Trump is a I guess,
an old fool who doesn't know how to run the country,
it's Elon Musk is Elon Musk is like eight off Musk,
We got eight off Musk and Donald Hitler.

Speaker 5 (19:35):
Yeah, well, when you watch the now discounted talking show hosts.

Speaker 4 (19:40):
Yes, they're on a discount these days.

Speaker 6 (19:43):
They've been marked down for Christmas.

Speaker 5 (19:45):
Everybody you see on seeing an, MSNBC, ABC, CBS and
the like, they're all working for half their salary because
they lost more than half their viewership. So it's not
a good start over there. They are just apoplectic over
this thing with the Musk and his availability of using Twitter.
For Pete's sake, we got to shut down his first amendment, right,
he can't use Twitter to be sharing his thoughts. And

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by the way, Kelly, even if he were able to
run for president, which plainly he's not. You know, you
didn't see Elon Musk go through a primary.

Speaker 6 (20:15):
He got not one.

Speaker 5 (20:16):
Primary vote, not one delegate in the primary vote. He
could not possibly come close to the payment. Hold On didn't.
Kamala wasn't she just elevated without a primary vote?

Speaker 6 (20:26):
Go to the Oval office.

Speaker 4 (20:27):
Well, I was thinking more along the lines of another
man who's not eligible to be president. But apparently he's
been pulling the strings for many years. George Soros. George
Soros got these guys, He got him on a tight
you know ship. They do what George Soros says, or
he does, or he primaries them. This is I mean,
this is as old as I don't even know how

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long you go back into these seventeen hundreds people were
funding primaries against people.

Speaker 5 (20:53):
Well, the result is is that you actually are now
starting to see the DC insider crowd get very nervous
about allowing a person like Elon Musk to have the
ear or even a part of the conversation because he
has no as it was described even by Trey Goudy,
my superhero, he has no political experience. You know something,

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one of the things that has elevated Donald Trump to
the position that he is today is because he proved
you don't have to have parliamentary procedural experience to be
able to go in and run the United States of America.
You really need to know what American people want to
get done, take their agenda and move it forward. And
if you're talking about the Elon Musk effect having to

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do with Doge, certainly other opportunities as well. You know,
there is an opportunity for all Americans to speak. Now,
was Trump given him a special place seeded to the
right of him? Maybe so, maybe too much, that's debatable.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
But it's just an advisory position. I mean, it's not
like you have some sort of special powers. He doesn't
all he is the power of his own purse string.
But also I think it's important to recognize Americans feel
like America is broken. So when it's not like it's
a tweak fix, we have to almost reimagine how to
run this country because we're so far upside down.

Speaker 5 (22:11):
Again, why Donald Trump was sent to d s turn
it upside down, elected disruptor. If we get enough disruptors
working for the American people. And this is again why
the DC crowd is getting very nervous. And it's not
just when we say DC crowd, we don't mean Democrats.
We mean no, no, no, the people of DC. And
you know when we say the people of DC, we
just mean politics in general. Really, I mean there you

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could be a state legislator in Illinois or wherever, and
you're just you're getting nervous because Americans are plugged into
the idea that we're thirty six plus trillion dollars in debt.
We're going to have another trillion of debt added on
this year. We're spending more on just paying off the debt,
the interest on the debt, than we are on the
national defense. Everything is going wrong. Crime is sky High.

Speaker 4 (22:57):
Nothing is working right now, and you've got gang taking
over apartment buildings and it's it's insane around It's like
we're living in Gotham City.

Speaker 5 (23:05):
And as we have mentioned many times before, and we'll
make sure that we mentioned it again now so you'll
know we're not talking about it that we did have
action before at eleven fifty nine fifty nine last night.
This is recorded on Fridays for broadcast on Saturdays, so
we're actually recording this at like ten thirty of the
morning on Friday the twenty if it is Saturday the
twenty first. Everybody's getting ready for a big Christmas. All

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the legislators want to get this wrapped up so they
can get home. And one of the things that was
brought up was the number of days these guys actually work.
And as it was pointed out by Dick Durban, there's
been no COLA. We've had no cost of living adjustment
here in DC now if you listen to MSNBC's not
real lengthy description of what exactly the Republicans are pushing

(23:48):
back on. And the Hakim had already worked out such
a great deal for this to be good for the
American people, so we could all celebrate and have a
fat turkey for Christmas Day. And the second effort apparently
didn't make the bar either. We've got people like Chip
Roy being called out by Donald Trump. He wants the
primary some of the House members Now, no head, are
you threatened to do that to some of the senatement?

Speaker 4 (24:09):
Well, I, you know, I politics is messy and it's
not as clean as I wish that we could make
it like just lines in the sand like this happened,
So that happened type of thing, you know, In all honesty,
Donald Trump was in very close communication with Mike Johnson.
Mike Johnson pushed for what Donald Trump wanted. At the
same time, Donald Trump is also in communication with Elon

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Musk and Vivek Ramaswami. Find the pork, let's point it out.
So Mike Johnson negotiated a deal that he thought Donald
Trump would like. Donald Trump like, let's some of the
stuff that Elon Musk is calling out Donald Trump wanted
in there, like the billions for farmers that is pork.
Elon Musk pointed it out, donald Trump doesn't care. He

(24:51):
wants that in there. There's like one hundred and thirty
billion dollars that Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswami are saying
this shouldn't be in the bill. Donald Trump wants it
in there, so I mean, you know, and then Donald
Trump wants the debt ceiling removed for his entire presidency.
I don't know that Elon's going to go along with that,
so I mean, but again, they're important voices that need
to be said. Ultimately, Donald Trump has ultimate control over

(25:14):
all of this. I did like that he tweeted out
on Friday morning though this is a Joe Biden problem.
You know, when they talk about how President Musk or whatever,
you couldn't be any wronger. The president of the United
States right now is Joe Biden. And if Joe Biden
was a strong leader, this wouldn't be a problem. This
would have been handled already. But he's not a strong leader.

(25:37):
So now you're trying to blame the Republicans for a
Democrats problem.

Speaker 5 (25:41):
Well, now we have Remember when George W. Bush was
about to take office and all of the Clinton administration
leaders had or just workers had popped all the w's
off of the keyboard a holes.

Speaker 6 (25:53):
Yeah, total ahle move.

Speaker 5 (25:55):
Biden administration took that and just cranked it up with
some steroids. Now they're doing everything that can to make
sure that they hamstring the president with negotiated deals or
given deals to union workers for the federal government and
a five year plan that can keep them at home.
They're making sure that they move as many people as
possible across the border before January the twentieth. They want
to make sure that they've got as many things in

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line to hamstring or take advantage of their own final
days of power. And again, the list of things that
Donald Trump was right about finally prove it out to
be true.

Speaker 6 (26:27):
Fonnie willis disqualified. That was great news.

Speaker 4 (26:30):
Gosh, that's got to be humiliating for all the Democrats
who are like, she's not compromised.

Speaker 5 (26:37):
And now and we go back for a second, and
stuff that had even hacked off a lot of the
Democrats was with the pardon for Hunter. We find out
even as before we got to the bottom of the escalator,
they were already lawfairing against Donald Trump. And then the
great debate where we talked about Hunter's laptop, and that
pardon deal is still going to go down to history
as one of the most incredible things a president every

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day did it is an abuse of power. This is
going to be a big history book on Joe Biden
and his time in office.

Speaker 4 (27:07):
I mean, the last ninety days are the most dangerous
ninety days in American history. I guess. Thursday night, Joe
Biden signed another four point to eight billion dollar student
loan handout. So this is for public workers. So so
far in student loans, Joe Biden has had you, the

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American tax payer, pay off one hundred and eighty billion
dollars so far in student loans. And again, none of
that has helped the economy one bit. This is just
taking people who Again, if I will choose to believe
the narrative, the narrative was if you go to college,
you make about a million dollars more in your lifetime

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than a high school graduate. And you're telling me that
even though they're going to make a million dollars more
in their lifetimes, the high school graduates are the ones
who have to pay off their student loans for him.
That is that is communism. That is the definition of communism.
I have to pay for them, why, especially when you
know that I'm not making as much according to you,

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I don't make it because I'm a high school graduate.
I did one and a half semesters of community college.
So I'm now paying for somebody who wanted to go
to one of these prestigious universities or even a state university.
And I've got to pay off their student loans because
Joe Biden says so.

Speaker 5 (28:27):
And on top of that, he already knew before he
did it the first time. He's done it, what total
of three or four times? I've forgotten now how many
times has he rolled out yet more initiatives to pay
off college loans.

Speaker 6 (28:36):
None of that is legal.

Speaker 4 (28:37):
Yeah, he's just carving out little things and he's like,
go ahead and sue us if you want. It's already
been paid. So I mean, you know whatever, I won't
be here when you finally get it.

Speaker 5 (28:44):
To court exactly, I won't be here. And now the
great debate is who's going to come out with a memoir? First,
imagine how many people have been the smart ones I
guess have been working on the book for the past
three and a half four years. Kamala supposed to be
ready to come out with her a memoir. You certainly
have a ghostwriter who's going to be writing one for Jill,
it will be about Joe. You've got a lot of

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investigative reporters who have more information coming out about Hunter,
but none of it, apparently is going to be very
good for Joe's legacy, as we're now hearing more and
more about even on the day of the withdrawal from Afghanistan,
the Department Offense couldn't get in touch with the president.

Speaker 4 (29:21):
Well, look, Joe Biden. There was a recent survey of
what we'll call modern era presidents. I think they went
all the way back to FDR and ranked them just
the American people, and Joe Biden came in dead last.
So that's behind Richard Nixon, that's behind Gerald Ford, that's
behind Jimmy Carter. I mean, it's pretty bad because usually

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you know the people of today who voted for you.
I mean, how many people voted for Joe Biden just
in the last election. Well, we'll never know now, right.
So in the meantime, though, I'm looking at this idea
that they're trying to jam this thing through. Ralph Norman
is stepping up and saying, we're not going to go
ahead and get that waste in there, that pork barrel

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waste why can't the Democrats just give us a clean bill?
Because they don't want a clean bill. They want to
saddle America with more debt and more problems.

Speaker 5 (30:15):
You know, I guess after you go through the laundry
list of things the Biden administration is pulling off in
the last few days of their administration.

Speaker 6 (30:22):
I'm waiting for the entire place to be set on fire.

Speaker 5 (30:25):
I'm just waiting to hear the sirens screaming now on
Pennsylvania Avenue as the whole place.

Speaker 6 (30:28):
Goes up in there.

Speaker 4 (30:29):
That's literally a dumpster fire.

Speaker 6 (30:31):
All right.

Speaker 5 (30:31):
We get to wrap up today's program with the conversation
with our Lieutenant Governor Pamela I have it talking about
things she'd like to see the legislators take on and
tackle in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
Coming up the Jonathan and Kelly Show. More Jonathan Rush.

Speaker 11 (30:45):
We run a campaign and basically scandal free.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
Kelly Nash.

Speaker 6 (30:49):
The one thing I've always.

Speaker 11 (30:50):
Believed about public service, and especially about the presidency, is
importance of asking yourself, have we left the country better
shape than we found it today? I can say, without
every fiber of my bed, from all my heart, to
answer that question.

Speaker 6 (31:03):
Is the resounding yes.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Jonathan and Kelly show.

Speaker 5 (31:06):
I know we'll have to put a black armband on
our American flag pole as we see the most transparent, most.

Speaker 4 (31:12):
Successful, consequential.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
Yes, that's a great word.

Speaker 6 (31:15):
To describe the Biden administration.

Speaker 4 (31:18):
It's getting expensive. I know that.

Speaker 5 (31:22):
Hey, before we wrap it up and get out of
here for today, we had an opportunity this week to
speak to our Lieutenant Governor, Pamela Evatt.

Speaker 8 (31:29):
Good morning, Merry Christmas, guys. I mean it's almost here.
Are you ready for Christmas? That is the key question.
Have you bought your one gift? Because if you're a
normal man, you have really one gift.

Speaker 4 (31:41):
Well, I have to get too because my wife's birthday
is Saturday the twentieth, So you've.

Speaker 8 (31:47):
Really been taxed? Is that what you're telling me?

Speaker 6 (31:49):
Like, that's your two gifts?

Speaker 8 (31:52):
Right?

Speaker 6 (31:52):
That's right.

Speaker 5 (31:53):
Well, I know we're all excited about the legislative season
kick it off here after the beginning of the year,
and I know that you have a lot of initiatives
working on the state has some pretty big challenges.

Speaker 6 (32:02):
In the past.

Speaker 5 (32:02):
We've talked about our energy. We're going to be talking
more about water. That's going to be a big one.
Most recently, we've had conversations about incarceration and DSS and
we're losing our director. And I know that you've been
working with them recently and taking a look at what
we've accomplished and where you think they're a heeaded, give
us an update.

Speaker 8 (32:21):
Yeah, So Tuesday I spend the entire day with Director
Leach and DSS. Unfortunately, guys, you never hear DSS and
a Happy Story together unless it is adoption day, right,
But I do want to let people know I was
in meetings about adult protective custody, child protective custody, all
the things that they were doing with the SNAP program

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and trying to get benefits out for disaster victims of Helene.
I can tell you I learned that adoption is up,
foster care numbers are down, the amount of workers that
they've been able to put in place. There was prior
to Director Leach lot of empty positions. They are the
most fully staffed and they were when he started seven

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years ago. Really good programs that he has put in
place and got rid of stuff that just wasn't working.
So he has done a lot. We should, you know,
give a ton of gratitude for how he has turned
DSS around and helped really the most vulnerable right in
our society.

Speaker 4 (33:24):
We're talking with the Lieutenant governor of South Carolina, and
the way our government is structured in South Carolina doesn't
give a lot of power to your branch. The governor's uh,
pretty weak as far as what they're capable of getting done.
So basically a lot of instances, it's really how can
you work with the legislators. We've had some guys on

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here from the South Carolina Freedom Caucus who talk about
how South Carolina is one of the bluest red states
the way we've been governed. Is there a way for
you and Henry, because I know you're both are pretty
in your conservative ideas to get the state to be
more in line with how it appears the South Carolina

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voters want the state to be rung.

Speaker 8 (34:08):
I think the value of the Governor and I is
to be able to make bridges and make relationships. I
am up in the House when they're in session. I
try to get up there every week and talk about
what's important to the Governor and I and hear about
what's important to them. You know, I hate when I
hear people say that, you know, like, oh, we're the
bluish red state. I mean, we have passed some really

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good legislation. Right Save Women's Sports has been passed, the
Heartbeat Bill has been passed. We have all these very
conservative things that we're passing. I think our challenge has
always been the past, is how do you craft a
bill that literally will survive it getting challenged in court?
And I think that's the piece in the middle that

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people forget. I'm all about good government. Nobody wants to
pass a bill just to flex their muscle and say, wow,
great job. We pass this, and then it goes over
to the courts. It doesn't get written within kind of
the structure of our constitution, and we lose. So we
have to write good, solid bills that take all of

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our conservative values into play, and then make sure those
bills survive when the left comes to fight them. And
I see everybody working really hard up there on conservative stuff,
and I will talk about that everywhere I talk where
this question gets roses. Republicans are always up there and
get stuff across the finish line. I think the key

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in what we've heard President Trump say is we got
to stop fighting each other. We agree at ninety nine
point nine percent of everything, and there's this like point
zero one percent that we continue to want to fight about.
We see it in DC, we see it unfolding here.
Let's work together for the people, because I believe, guys,
that people are done with our infighting.

Speaker 5 (35:55):
You know, one of the things that's going to be
imperative this year is that we do get a energy proposal,
policy and legislation in place. And when you look at
Dominion Energy or the other energy components we have in
the state and our needs for more energy as we
move forward, given the businesses that are moved in, tell
me some encouraging news about making sure that we do
it right this time before we end up with another

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yearr ruins of Gaffney or another hole in the ground
in Fairfield County.

Speaker 8 (36:20):
So learning from our past mistakes always key. I think
there's two parts that make me very hopeful. Is the
fact that now we have a president and administration that
is very energy focused. Right when you shut off natural
gas and that's dispatchable energy, things that you can turn
on and turn off when demand gets high, you know,

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turn it down and demand decreases. When you basically take
that out of the equation, it becomes very tough for
states and energy companies to try to work around the
challenges that they have. So I think that's the number
one positive thing in South Carolina. Keeping everything on the table.
My friends, we want to talk about small nuclear reactors.

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There's a lot of new technology coming out. Solar is
only as good as the sun being out right. The
other positive thing I see in the year ahead is
that with President Trump and his administration, they are going
to go through and clean up the bureaucracy that we
call Washington d C. The bureaucrats that put these regulations

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in play that become very hard for our energy companies
to work around. Keller Cassam a dear friend. Him and
I talk, you know, at length when I was out
at Dominion about we can generate all the power we want,
but if we can't transmit it, if we can't get
it where it needs to go because we're getting stopped
by federal regulations, then what does it matter? So, guys,

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I am looking forward to the year ahead and energy.
I think when you start opening up those pipelines as
a state, it's going to be a lot easier for
us to first of all, keep our power affordable and reliable.
We won't be able to continue to grow if we
don't have the power sources that we need.

Speaker 5 (38:01):
Thank you again, Lieutenant Governor Pamela Ebittt.

Speaker 8 (38:04):
Guys, thanks so much.

Speaker 5 (38:05):
Take here all right, Kelly Nash, let's do a little
housekeeping here next week. We will be on vacation this
coming week. So next week we're going to play back
some of our favorite interviews.

Speaker 6 (38:15):
Over the year.

Speaker 4 (38:15):
Got Donald J. Trump on the show next week. Ok,
We've got Vivik Ramaswami on the show next week. And
looking forward to twenty twenty five, we've got the former
senator from South Carolina, the guy who's kind of really
molding the conservative movement, Jim Dementt. He'll be kind of
telling us what he thinks is coming down for twenty
twenty five.

Speaker 5 (38:33):
And specifically for the state of South Carolina. Right after
the big election day on November the sixth, we had
a phone call Drew McKissick from the South Carolina GOP
was talking about all of the election results and the
supermajority of the General Assembly and other election celebrations. So
we will hear from him again to remind us will
be our as we set the table for twenty twenty five.

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All that'll be happening next week.

Speaker 4 (38:56):
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, Jonathan and Kelly show.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
That is our broadcast. Thank you for being here with us.
I'll show myself out until we meet again, Curry. And
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