February 8, 2025 • 23 mins
DJ Spontaneous based In New York speaks about his childhood and his father being in jail for 29 years, and how music impacted his life.
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(00:00):
DJ Tiesto is one of your biggest influences. Are there any other DJs that you really like or fuck with?
(00:08):
I love DJ Kool. I like hip hop music. I love hip hop music as well.
Being Asian, being Chinese, you feel like you don't get the respect you deserve or people look down on you because of your skin color or you've never felt that?
I felt that. Especially when I was younger I felt that.
When did you first start DJing? Your age?
(00:32):
I didn't get into DJing until pretty late. Until when I was like 23.
You had somebody that showed you the ropes or you had to figure everything out by yourself. How was it?
I actually had a mentor back in junior high school. That's when I first started.
Was that the guidance counselor you were talking about?
No, that was at a boys club. He was a computer teacher there.
(00:57):
Was he Asian or white?
He was Asian. He was actually a great teacher. He was actually somebody that was there for the students. Very helpful.
Not to get into anything too crazy, but like you said, you grew up with your dad locked up for 29 years.
(01:22):
You weren't born in America. You came to America when you were 7 or 8 like you said.
8?
8. Besides I guess drugs or violence and all this other bullshit around you, you felt like music, when you found it, when you got into it,
(01:48):
it was like a place where you could be yourself and finally have control over something in your life.
Because maybe you felt like you didn't have any other options or some shit like that. This was something that you could...
Music really saved me. It was a huge part of my life.
It was your outlet.
(02:09):
You had nobody there. The music was there. That's what really got me into music and the music industry.
I started my own entertainment company, Spontaneous Entertainment. I was doing a lot of entertainment, a lot of shows.
I would be DJing at these shows. Always good.
(02:34):
What motivated you to start your own company as opposed to working for somebody else?
Does it go back to the discrimination or people looking down on you?
I just wanted to do my own thing instead of working together with other people. I've done that a lot.
(02:55):
I feel like this game is a cold game. It's a cold world out here. Not everybody is there to help you.
You will help them, but you won't get the same in return. That's what made me want to have my own Spontaneous Entertainment.
(03:16):
You got tired of getting fucked over, people telling you this and that, all up in your ear. I just do my own shit.
Basically, if you're really going to partner up with somebody and invest, you've got to be there full time.
If you don't have the type of time, then you really can't do it. You might take a hole in your own...
(03:37):
You don't know how that will even happen.
In the business industry, it's all about making profit and not losing profit.
Maybe not all to myself. If I was going to do all of that, do everything myself, might as well just be the CEO.
Take care of everything yourself.
Salute. A lot of people aren't strong-minded enough to start their own shirt.
(04:04):
Especially if you grew up being beat down and dissed or whatnot.
What do you think gave you such motivation and strength even though growing up you felt like you didn't have what other kids had?
Or you didn't have the support other kids had?
That gave me strength.
The music.
What you just said right there.
(04:25):
Not having what other people had.
Not being...
Just not having the things that other guys had that made me...
They look at you like they're a lesser just because of what you're born into.
(04:47):
People critical in a way.
I don't know if you know what I mean, but I grew up very poor.
And it pissed you off.
Yeah. Makes me want to just...
Flash out.
And evolve to make myself better.
(05:08):
You said you caught a gun charge at 17.
I mean, how did that happen?
Break that down. If you're not comfortable, that's fine too.
That was when I was 17 years old.
I was attending Flushing High School at that time.
(05:30):
And I got mixed in with the wrong crowd.
This happened at a KTV function over here.
It was like 41st Avenue.
And then it was in this KTV.
And then this was actually a federal case.
So it was all over the news. 2008.
(05:54):
The feds, they raided this KTV.
And there was at least 30 people there at this KTV function.
And then a lot of people got locked up. Over 10 people got locked up.
And I was one of them.
You feel like...and you don't need to go into the details.
(06:17):
But you got locked up at 17.
Your dad's already locked up. It's just you and your mom.
What did you feel at the time when you were sitting there in jail?
What were you feeling? Did you not give a fuck?
(06:38):
Were you angry? Were you ashamed?
I was real angry.
I was sad. I was just losing.
You know, when you're in a situation like that.
I really felt like I lost it at that time.
I don't know what's going to happen.
That really changed me though. It made me into a much better person.
(07:00):
It makes you want to think a lot more about life.
What happened to your associates or friends afterwards?
You cut them off? You hung around for a little while?
How did it end up?
We still stay in contact.
But we all got our own lives to live.
It just can't be like that.
(07:22):
I feel you.
We have kids. We moved on.
Did everybody move on or do you still have some people you feel like to where you're like,
Damn, they're still on that shit.
They're still on that shit.
This is a question.
I've been to people and they're still the same.
(07:45):
It's a small world out here.
I've been to a lot of people and they're still on that.
What do you feel like when you see some of your old friends who are still acting like they're,
I don't want to say acting like anything,
but haven't changed from what they were since they were 18.
Still on the same bullshit.
(08:07):
Still fucking people over.
Still on that same timing.
Do you feel bad or do you feel like?
I do feel bad, but I feel like it's their choice.
I'm not going to judge them.
And they, some people change, some people don't.
(08:29):
If you never had your two kids, do you feel like you could still be on that same timing with you?
Definitely.
Kids change me 100%.
And I know we've been so serious talking about all this serious shit,
but you got a baby mom's, right?
(08:50):
And some people get along with their baby mothers and some people don't.
I know you're not seeing her right now and what not,
but as much as you hate her, you know,
(09:14):
do you feel like she helped you too in getting out of the street life
or finding some kind of meaning more than just...
She definitely did.
It changed me a lot man, having a family.
I left a lot of things behind.
I left a lot of people behind.
And I was disconnected from all of that.
(09:37):
It's scary, right?
Because I'm going to keep fucking saying it because it's not normal
and it's not easy to grow up without a dad and especially if your dad's locked up.
And this is DJ's situation.
And I'll say it again, you know, he came to America when he was eight.
(09:59):
His dad's locked up.
He doesn't know how to speak English.
His mom is a typical Asian mom, you know,
wants him to be a fucking scholar or, you know, doctor, you know,
some shit like that.
But whether you're Asian, whatever you are,
(10:20):
human beings are human beings just because you're Chinese or Korean
or that doesn't mean that, you know,
we all want to be rocket scientists or do fucking martial arts, you know.
Music is his passion and that's what he wanted to do.
And that doesn't mean, you know, we're lesser than other Asian people
(10:41):
or, you know, or anybody else.
It's just I'm just sick and tired of people thinking that
because of your skin color or how you're raised, you got to be on weight.
We're out here in New York, so that's some sirens.
But I just want to say, you know, salute to you and for staying strong.
(11:06):
And let's just, I guess, go back like your children and your baby moms
and how do you feel like overall looking back now, I guess,
even though things didn't work out?
(11:27):
I mean, having a family was great, you know,
it was the best time of my life.
How long did you guys live together and stay together before she left?
Seven years.
At the time, right?
Did you hate it or was it annoying?
(11:51):
It could be.
It's like a lot of hating issues.
Were you happy living with her and having that?
It's kind of in a way what you never had, right?
It was.
I mean, it brought a lot of happiness.
I do.
As much as annoying as she was or as much bullshit as it was your own,
(12:14):
like just how you started your own entertainment company,
you got to have like, build something that you never had for yourself,
which was mom and dad and just everybody there, right?
Your two children.
(12:35):
And nobody's perfect.
And like you said, everybody learns and stuff, but yeah,
seven years is a long time, bro.
It was a long time, and you know, it was a great time.
Is there anything that you feel like you would do differently looking back
(12:58):
or like anything you've read just on your situation with like,
I guess, your own family?
I definitely would do a lot of things differently,
trying to, you know, make everything right.
But that's the past.
(13:19):
You've moved on.
I feel like, you know, we've both moved on.
I see.
So what's your happiness now then?
(13:41):
Just music and then like entertainment, trying to do shows.
Other than that, that's like your main focus right now.
Trying to elevate.
And your dad just got out after 29 years.
(14:03):
Do you feel like you want to do stuff with him or like, I mean, how is that?
Oh, yeah, man. I love spending time with him.
I feel like, you know, having him around just completes me
because I haven't had him around for pretty much my whole life.
(14:31):
How does your mom, you guys get together sometimes and just...
Oh, yeah, we get together, you know, we have dinners.
We do a lot of reunions.
And I guess you were saying earlier before, like, not having what other people had
(14:56):
motivated you more to be like in line or try even harder.
And also to get my mom's approval.
Just, you know.
Trying to be the best son because I saw how hard she worked.
(15:20):
How did...break that down.
What did your mom do for a living? How did she support you as a single mother in New York?
She was working in a sweatshop, man.
Making clothing and shit in New York.
Getting paid under the table, no tax type shit.
(15:41):
Not that it matters, but like just a bunch of shit, right?
Yeah, back then, you know, when you come here, you don't got no papers.
So, you know, that's how it was.
Your mom came through like illegally.
Yeah, she had to get her papers. She went to court.
That's how, you know, she got me here.
(16:02):
After she got all her paperwork done, she got me a visa.
You stayed behind in China by yourself while both of your parents were in America.
So it was my grandmother and my grandfather that raised me.
God damn, until you were eight or seven.
And how was that? Like you grew up on a farm.
(16:24):
I grew up on a farm and then, you know, we had a place in the mountains and we also had a place in the city.
So in the city, that's where I went to school, but in the mountains, there was no school.
How is it that you're so good at still keeping contact with your friends, even though you grew up in situations where like, you know,
(16:49):
that could make some people sociopaths, that could really fuck somebody up.
How is it that you maintain such loyalty to your father and your mother,
even though in a way they let you down?
Whether it's your mom being physically abusive to you or your father not being there for you,
(17:11):
how do you maintain such a positive outlook?
What, I mean, you keep saying music, but I think most people would fold under that kind of pressure.
What's stopping you from just...
There was a lot of times when I folded, man.
(17:33):
I thought about, you know, just doing the best that I can.
But how? And, you know, with no guidance there, nobody else there to look out for you,
what kept you so strong? Is it the anger, you think, or like just, I can't let people, you know, slip up and see me fail
because they already think I'm this, right?
(17:56):
Anger fueled me, that was definitely fuel.
And then just family, you know, that made me feel as well.
What was the life, like at the end of the tunnel that just kept you going, just maybe one day,
like things were, I'll be able to be...
One day?
Even now.
(18:17):
I mean, you know, I'm always trying to reach greater goals.
I set, you know, the standards very high for myself, so that's why I push hard.
Push hard to get where I really want to be.
So, you know, in a way, nobody has any fucking excuse to like not go after what they want, you know?
(18:42):
I mean, in this life, you got to do it for yourself, ain't nobody going to do it for you.
I feel you.
And then, you know, motivation, that really comes with it.
Do you have any advice, maybe? I mean, even if it's, you don't have to say any names, but, or anything like that,
(19:10):
but for people who are in similar, like situations or grew up similarly, who are still...
Can't get out of the street shit, can't get out of the negativity.
Is there any advice? I really think that you have an answer to, because you've been through everything,
(19:32):
and still you were able to change and hope for better for yourself and do better for yourself.
What's some advice you could give to somebody who is in a similar situation?
Well, you know, like, if parents gave birth to you, you got to make your parents proud.
(19:55):
And then, just doing the best so you could be better than today. Make yesterday, you know what I mean?
You got to be better than yesterday. Work harder. Make every day better than yesterday.
I look forward to a better day tomorrow.
How did you not hate your mom and your dad? How did you still, even after whatever they put you through,
(20:23):
how do you still think about that? How do you still have love for them? How?
I think it's all about finding peace in yourself. And I feel like I found peace.
(20:46):
Like, you know, everybody is different. We got different hobbies, maybe it's about, you know, completing some goals.
Competing the goals, so, you know, just setting high standards and completing the goals that maybe some other people can't accomplish.
(21:07):
Just hitting, you know, milestones.
Little by little. Day by day.
Day by day. It's all about consistency. Once you have that in your head, you have something to look forward to every day.
Consistency.
So, have something to look forward to every day. Be consistent. Find yourself. And don't blame anybody, right?
(21:39):
Finding yourself. Some people, they're out here trying to find something else or someone else.
It's all about finding yourself first.
And that's the most important thing.
That is the most important thing. Because everything is, you know, you do everything, it's yourself. You're in control of everything.
(22:03):
You're in control.
Some people, they have no self-control. But then, you know, it's all about finding peace and finding control of your life.
So, you know, sometimes we get angry, we go do dumb things.
(22:25):
But then, once you find that peace, you know, I feel like you overcome any situation.
But like you said, the most important thing is finding your peace.
Some way.
Somehow, regardless of everything.
And until you have that, it's got to be like that.
It's not going to be easy to find yourself, right? It's going to be rough, but...
(22:49):
It's going to take time.
That's what makes it special and worth it.
Thank you. Thank you so much for everything.
Alright, I think we're good.
DJ Tiesto is one of your biggest influences. Are there any other DJs that you really like or fuck with?
(00:08):
I love DJ Kool. I like hip hop music. I love hip hop music as well.
Being Asian, being Chinese, you feel like you don't get the respect you deserve or people look down on you because of your skin color or you've never felt that?
I felt that. Especially when I was younger I felt that.
When did you first start DJing? Your age?
(00:32):
I didn't get into DJing until pretty late. Until when I was like 23.
You had somebody that showed you the ropes or you had to figure everything out by yourself. How was it?
I actually had a mentor back in junior high school. That's when I first started.
Was that the guidance counselor you were talking about?
No, that was at a boys club. He was a computer teacher there.
(00:57):
Was he Asian or white?
He was Asian. He was actually a great teacher. He was actually somebody that was there for the students. Very helpful.
Not to get into anything too crazy, but like you said, you grew up with your dad locked up for 29 years.
(01:22):
You weren't born in America. You came to America when you were 7 or 8 like you said.
8?
8. Besides I guess drugs or violence and all this other bullshit around you, you felt like music, when you found it, when you got into it,
(01:48):
it was like a place where you could be yourself and finally have control over something in your life.
Because maybe you felt like you didn't have any other options or some shit like that. This was something that you could...
Music really saved me. It was a huge part of my life.
It was your outlet.
(02:09):
You had nobody there. The music was there. That's what really got me into music and the music industry.
I started my own entertainment company, Spontaneous Entertainment. I was doing a lot of entertainment, a lot of shows.
I would be DJing at these shows. Always good.
(02:34):
What motivated you to start your own company as opposed to working for somebody else?
Does it go back to the discrimination or people looking down on you?
I just wanted to do my own thing instead of working together with other people. I've done that a lot.
(02:55):
I feel like this game is a cold game. It's a cold world out here. Not everybody is there to help you.
You will help them, but you won't get the same in return. That's what made me want to have my own Spontaneous Entertainment.
(03:16):
You got tired of getting fucked over, people telling you this and that, all up in your ear. I just do my own shit.
Basically, if you're really going to partner up with somebody and invest, you've got to be there full time.
If you don't have the type of time, then you really can't do it. You might take a hole in your own...
(03:37):
You don't know how that will even happen.
In the business industry, it's all about making profit and not losing profit.
Maybe not all to myself. If I was going to do all of that, do everything myself, might as well just be the CEO.
Take care of everything yourself.
Salute. A lot of people aren't strong-minded enough to start their own shirt.
(04:04):
Especially if you grew up being beat down and dissed or whatnot.
What do you think gave you such motivation and strength even though growing up you felt like you didn't have what other kids had?
Or you didn't have the support other kids had?
That gave me strength.
The music.
What you just said right there.
(04:25):
Not having what other people had.
Not being...
Just not having the things that other guys had that made me...
They look at you like they're a lesser just because of what you're born into.
(04:47):
People critical in a way.
I don't know if you know what I mean, but I grew up very poor.
And it pissed you off.
Yeah. Makes me want to just...
Flash out.
And evolve to make myself better.
(05:08):
You said you caught a gun charge at 17.
I mean, how did that happen?
Break that down. If you're not comfortable, that's fine too.
That was when I was 17 years old.
I was attending Flushing High School at that time.
(05:30):
And I got mixed in with the wrong crowd.
This happened at a KTV function over here.
It was like 41st Avenue.
And then it was in this KTV.
And then this was actually a federal case.
So it was all over the news. 2008.
(05:54):
The feds, they raided this KTV.
And there was at least 30 people there at this KTV function.
And then a lot of people got locked up. Over 10 people got locked up.
And I was one of them.
You feel like...and you don't need to go into the details.
(06:17):
But you got locked up at 17.
Your dad's already locked up. It's just you and your mom.
What did you feel at the time when you were sitting there in jail?
What were you feeling? Did you not give a fuck?
(06:38):
Were you angry? Were you ashamed?
I was real angry.
I was sad. I was just losing.
You know, when you're in a situation like that.
I really felt like I lost it at that time.
I don't know what's going to happen.
That really changed me though. It made me into a much better person.
(07:00):
It makes you want to think a lot more about life.
What happened to your associates or friends afterwards?
You cut them off? You hung around for a little while?
How did it end up?
We still stay in contact.
But we all got our own lives to live.
It just can't be like that.
(07:22):
I feel you.
We have kids. We moved on.
Did everybody move on or do you still have some people you feel like to where you're like,
Damn, they're still on that shit.
They're still on that shit.
This is a question.
I've been to people and they're still the same.
(07:45):
It's a small world out here.
I've been to a lot of people and they're still on that.
What do you feel like when you see some of your old friends who are still acting like they're,
I don't want to say acting like anything,
but haven't changed from what they were since they were 18.
Still on the same bullshit.
(08:07):
Still fucking people over.
Still on that same timing.
Do you feel bad or do you feel like?
I do feel bad, but I feel like it's their choice.
I'm not going to judge them.
And they, some people change, some people don't.
(08:29):
If you never had your two kids, do you feel like you could still be on that same timing with you?
Definitely.
Kids change me 100%.
And I know we've been so serious talking about all this serious shit,
but you got a baby mom's, right?
(08:50):
And some people get along with their baby mothers and some people don't.
I know you're not seeing her right now and what not,
but as much as you hate her, you know,
(09:14):
do you feel like she helped you too in getting out of the street life
or finding some kind of meaning more than just...
She definitely did.
It changed me a lot man, having a family.
I left a lot of things behind.
I left a lot of people behind.
And I was disconnected from all of that.
(09:37):
It's scary, right?
Because I'm going to keep fucking saying it because it's not normal
and it's not easy to grow up without a dad and especially if your dad's locked up.
And this is DJ's situation.
And I'll say it again, you know, he came to America when he was eight.
(09:59):
His dad's locked up.
He doesn't know how to speak English.
His mom is a typical Asian mom, you know,
wants him to be a fucking scholar or, you know, doctor, you know,
some shit like that.
But whether you're Asian, whatever you are,
(10:20):
human beings are human beings just because you're Chinese or Korean
or that doesn't mean that, you know,
we all want to be rocket scientists or do fucking martial arts, you know.
Music is his passion and that's what he wanted to do.
And that doesn't mean, you know, we're lesser than other Asian people
(10:41):
or, you know, or anybody else.
It's just I'm just sick and tired of people thinking that
because of your skin color or how you're raised, you got to be on weight.
We're out here in New York, so that's some sirens.
But I just want to say, you know, salute to you and for staying strong.
(11:06):
And let's just, I guess, go back like your children and your baby moms
and how do you feel like overall looking back now, I guess,
even though things didn't work out?
(11:27):
I mean, having a family was great, you know,
it was the best time of my life.
How long did you guys live together and stay together before she left?
Seven years.
At the time, right?
Did you hate it or was it annoying?
(11:51):
It could be.
It's like a lot of hating issues.
Were you happy living with her and having that?
It's kind of in a way what you never had, right?
It was.
I mean, it brought a lot of happiness.
I do.
As much as annoying as she was or as much bullshit as it was your own,
(12:14):
like just how you started your own entertainment company,
you got to have like, build something that you never had for yourself,
which was mom and dad and just everybody there, right?
Your two children.
(12:35):
And nobody's perfect.
And like you said, everybody learns and stuff, but yeah,
seven years is a long time, bro.
It was a long time, and you know, it was a great time.
Is there anything that you feel like you would do differently looking back
(12:58):
or like anything you've read just on your situation with like,
I guess, your own family?
I definitely would do a lot of things differently,
trying to, you know, make everything right.
But that's the past.
(13:19):
You've moved on.
I feel like, you know, we've both moved on.
I see.
So what's your happiness now then?
(13:41):
Just music and then like entertainment, trying to do shows.
Other than that, that's like your main focus right now.
Trying to elevate.
And your dad just got out after 29 years.
(14:03):
Do you feel like you want to do stuff with him or like, I mean, how is that?
Oh, yeah, man. I love spending time with him.
I feel like, you know, having him around just completes me
because I haven't had him around for pretty much my whole life.
(14:31):
How does your mom, you guys get together sometimes and just...
Oh, yeah, we get together, you know, we have dinners.
We do a lot of reunions.
And I guess you were saying earlier before, like, not having what other people had
(14:56):
motivated you more to be like in line or try even harder.
And also to get my mom's approval.
Just, you know.
Trying to be the best son because I saw how hard she worked.
(15:20):
How did...break that down.
What did your mom do for a living? How did she support you as a single mother in New York?
She was working in a sweatshop, man.
Making clothing and shit in New York.
Getting paid under the table, no tax type shit.
(15:41):
Not that it matters, but like just a bunch of shit, right?
Yeah, back then, you know, when you come here, you don't got no papers.
So, you know, that's how it was.
Your mom came through like illegally.
Yeah, she had to get her papers. She went to court.
That's how, you know, she got me here.
(16:02):
After she got all her paperwork done, she got me a visa.
You stayed behind in China by yourself while both of your parents were in America.
So it was my grandmother and my grandfather that raised me.
God damn, until you were eight or seven.
And how was that? Like you grew up on a farm.
(16:24):
I grew up on a farm and then, you know, we had a place in the mountains and we also had a place in the city.
So in the city, that's where I went to school, but in the mountains, there was no school.
How is it that you're so good at still keeping contact with your friends, even though you grew up in situations where like, you know,
(16:49):
that could make some people sociopaths, that could really fuck somebody up.
How is it that you maintain such loyalty to your father and your mother,
even though in a way they let you down?
Whether it's your mom being physically abusive to you or your father not being there for you,
(17:11):
how do you maintain such a positive outlook?
What, I mean, you keep saying music, but I think most people would fold under that kind of pressure.
What's stopping you from just...
There was a lot of times when I folded, man.
(17:33):
I thought about, you know, just doing the best that I can.
But how? And, you know, with no guidance there, nobody else there to look out for you,
what kept you so strong? Is it the anger, you think, or like just, I can't let people, you know, slip up and see me fail
because they already think I'm this, right?
(17:56):
Anger fueled me, that was definitely fuel.
And then just family, you know, that made me feel as well.
What was the life, like at the end of the tunnel that just kept you going, just maybe one day,
like things were, I'll be able to be...
One day?
Even now.
(18:17):
I mean, you know, I'm always trying to reach greater goals.
I set, you know, the standards very high for myself, so that's why I push hard.
Push hard to get where I really want to be.
So, you know, in a way, nobody has any fucking excuse to like not go after what they want, you know?
(18:42):
I mean, in this life, you got to do it for yourself, ain't nobody going to do it for you.
I feel you.
And then, you know, motivation, that really comes with it.
Do you have any advice, maybe? I mean, even if it's, you don't have to say any names, but, or anything like that,
(19:10):
but for people who are in similar, like situations or grew up similarly, who are still...
Can't get out of the street shit, can't get out of the negativity.
Is there any advice? I really think that you have an answer to, because you've been through everything,
(19:32):
and still you were able to change and hope for better for yourself and do better for yourself.
What's some advice you could give to somebody who is in a similar situation?
Well, you know, like, if parents gave birth to you, you got to make your parents proud.
(19:55):
And then, just doing the best so you could be better than today. Make yesterday, you know what I mean?
You got to be better than yesterday. Work harder. Make every day better than yesterday.
I look forward to a better day tomorrow.
How did you not hate your mom and your dad? How did you still, even after whatever they put you through,
(20:23):
how do you still think about that? How do you still have love for them? How?
I think it's all about finding peace in yourself. And I feel like I found peace.
(20:46):
Like, you know, everybody is different. We got different hobbies, maybe it's about, you know, completing some goals.
Competing the goals, so, you know, just setting high standards and completing the goals that maybe some other people can't accomplish.
(21:07):
Just hitting, you know, milestones.
Little by little. Day by day.
Day by day. It's all about consistency. Once you have that in your head, you have something to look forward to every day.
Consistency.
So, have something to look forward to every day. Be consistent. Find yourself. And don't blame anybody, right?
(21:39):
Finding yourself. Some people, they're out here trying to find something else or someone else.
It's all about finding yourself first.
And that's the most important thing.
That is the most important thing. Because everything is, you know, you do everything, it's yourself. You're in control of everything.
(22:03):
You're in control.
Some people, they have no self-control. But then, you know, it's all about finding peace and finding control of your life.
So, you know, sometimes we get angry, we go do dumb things.
(22:25):
But then, once you find that peace, you know, I feel like you overcome any situation.
But like you said, the most important thing is finding your peace.
Some way.
Somehow, regardless of everything.
And until you have that, it's got to be like that.
It's not going to be easy to find yourself, right? It's going to be rough, but...
(22:49):
It's going to take time.
That's what makes it special and worth it.
Thank you. Thank you so much for everything.
Alright, I think we're good.
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