Episode #102 At The Sunrise Inn

Ray and Mike are at the Sunrise Inn talking about the unbelievable boxing matches over the past couple weeks, and look forward on what's coming next!

Episode Transcript

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Man. Yeah, hello, everyone of those days. Wow, Wow,
we're gonna well that's worth that's theshort it self. Hello everybody,
welcome to another round of raised boomboom room. I'm your host, ray
Mancini here with my Ace corner Mancut Man. My case. I apologize

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a from ahead of time on FrontStreet because we advertise a very special interview
today with a very special guest,and we were not able to make that
happen because a technical difficulties. Myguys tried, you gotta believe me,
they work their ass off, tryto make it happen. It just couldn't
happen. It's a technical difficulties here. So we're gonna redo that interview with

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Federico quest Lucco at another time,hopefully next week. People if you think,
oh I know that name, Iknow that name, but people know
him for yeah, Federico Stucco wasFurio and the Sopranos. He played the
role of Tony's you know, thezip coming in from Italy who take care
of like his bodyguard, and thenand then his wife Carmella fell for him.

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Remember that was got a little bitof a spoilers. Oh oh,
they're they're watching the Sopranos. Nowthese guys finally are old enough to watch
the Sopranos. Wait, I gotyour dads over to tell me like I
did a federal, I met afederal wrong here on for the radio.

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Oh my god. They're like,any who know this was gonna happen anyway.
He's a wonderful, wonderful character.He's a wonderful, wonderful actor and
now director. But let's talk abouthim, says we didn't get at guess
we'll get him on the guest.But think about Federico that I want to
have. I met him to amutual friend, if the infamous Jules Feiler,

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My my gentle Juels, I loveyou to death. Joe's up started
to make it happen today because whatwe'll get it, And Federico was um
kind of the way as long ashe could, but he had to go
on to another interview or another engagement. But uh, there are so many
things I wanted to talk to.Yeah, yeah, we're gonna find out.
But the great role, you know, the Sopranos, the whole you

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know, maybe top three series ofall time, well, especially if you're
in Italian, and if I thinkI think TV voted them number one or
two series of all time on TV. Guy, did did you like the
ending? I as a film asa film person, yes, and I'll
tell you what. I'll tell youwhat as a film person, I like

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the facts as a as a filmmaker, I guess we shouldn't ruin it for
you, guys. I don't knowyou're not gonna like tell you right now,
you know, I know, Iknow you will like it if I
don't tell you why. People don'tlike it. A lot of people that
me it was okay, I'll tellwhy I was. People want things.
I don't like shows or movies thatare tied up a nice tidy boat.

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I don't like not the just forjust for leaving someone hanging, for hanging,
you know, for that sakes onits own. There has to be
a reason for that, and thatreason. But I think it was justified
in that in the series ending.I thought it was justified. A lot
of people don't like it, which, look, that's that's a that's a
good ending. When people don't likeit, I'll tell you why, okay.

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Artists will tell you. I haveany artist with Federico is a painter
and He'll tell you the best tohave somebody, whether you're a writer or
painters and say, look at thatpainting. What are you thinking? Oh
that's okay. That's the worst.Love it or hate it, have a
reaction to. If you have areaction, love it or I hate it,
that's still good for the artist becauseyou have a reaction. Same thing

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with writers. Writer say love mywork, but they have a react,
they have no reaction is the worst. And that's what I think a lot
of people. I think people hateit, which is good. Yeah,
because again reaction and a lot ofpeople liked it. I liked it as
as a film guy as because theleft then tied things up in a tidy
bowl. I don't like that.Things don't need to be wrapped up.

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I like the fact that you wouldn'twait a minute, could this happen?
Could that have happened? That's all? So I'd like the way Sopranos ended
in that respect. What was thejourney song? Didn't it wasn't there a
Journey song? Don't stop believe Isee I like it in a tidy bow.
I feel like I've I've invested allthe time, I believe energy and
I just wanted to come to anend where I'm like, Okay, that's

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the end of it. But Ithink let me ask you this, if
if James Ganefini was still alive,do you think with that ending it would
have come back or do you thinkthey would have done something? They were
actually talking about it? And ifFrederico could verify as well, get the
actual stop up doing a film basedon you know what's next? Feature film

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based on the after ending? Wow, that makes sense, that makes sense
if you like that. Um.Also, now a lot of people do
they don't know there's a prequel HBO, but the prequel to the Sopranos.
And I forgot the name of Kingsof New York, The Kings of New
York, Many Saints of Many Saints. Okay, okay, um, And

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it's the prequel James Gandelfini's son isactually playing James as a young man,
and Federico Tos nobody in the originalcast, Isn't that? I thought,
like, even you know, ifyou don't have a medal thirty years thirty
years earlier, am I right?You know? And even there's no metal,
think of Uncle Junior, Uncle June, you know he's not I thought

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it like he'd come back, youknow. Nah, Well maybe now maybe
they bring him back. They cando degeneration and bring him back to when
he was like Chilbody played Johnny Oolaand Godfather. Yeah, talking about that,
like the show, we're all overto join. Yeah, there's so
you know, no rhyme or reasonfor the show. Because we screwed up.
Well they screwed up. I justscrub. No, we're a team,

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that's right. We we win together, we lose together. That's bullshit
too. Let me tay. Letme say, I'm the QB who fundles
that you lost the game first,I don't lose it for us. You
get too much credit and too muchblame. You're the quarterback. I'm sorry,
I agree with that, just sayingabout the coach. Coach get way
too much credit for anyone. Theyain't doing the plane. They're just putting.

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They get the strategy, put thesoldiers out there. But they do
get too much blame for when theylose too. They ain't playing the guy.
If you put the time, therecipe, you put the game plan,
and the guys don't. If theydon't put that into effect, that's
up to them. Yeah, anywherewe're gonna say about Furial about and so

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what was I think you were talkingabout? Maybe the next the prequel,
the prequel, but none, hetold us. None of the rein I
thought. I asked if he wasin So no, none of the original
members were in that. Because it'slike thirty years pre year prayer. That's
oh yeah, that's that. We'retalking about how they would have done that
with the regeneration, you know,the agent going to that, you see
the Irishman Yet said no, no, I did you have Netflix? Everybody

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got Netflix? It's like, canyou like everybody got? People used to
I don't go to USPN. Noteverybody got. It's part of this.
I don't blame you. You knowyou get you know, it's just it's
part of it down. So Idid see it the other day. It's
three hours at thirty minutes, nokidding, it's long, probably halfway through.

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Tremendous up for Academy Awards. Buzzonethat carry can him carry three hours
and thirty minutes? Yes, becauseof those guys really stories. I was
surprised to see how old. I'lltake the stuff, but not good.
Three I met looks different, helooks really different. But I actually know
Pesh a little more. Expect sometimesPesh, but he's retired from acting,

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and Robert DeNiro called him, yougot to do this, you got to
do this, And so Joe playedRussell Buffalino, a major role. Pesh
and I think Pino both all ofwill be nominated. The movie will be
nominated for Best Best Movie, Scorse, Best Actor, Best Director. DeNiro

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is the lead actor, and Ithink Peccino and Pesh for Best Supporting Actor,
though I actually think Peccino's role wasthe lead role too. But there'll
be a Supporting Actor and de Nirowill be up for Best Leading Actor.
Why why do you think Scorsese makesso much sense when they do movies like

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that? Because he gets it.He's a he's an artist, he's a
film market but he understands that.You know people, You gotta people who
always ask and you always hear this. And they've asked me, if you
have your choice, if you hadyour brothers, who could you rather do
art or commercial? Because people rememberart commercial. I said, well,
let me tell you something. IfI have my brothers, I'd like to

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do both. But let's face it, you do a commercial piece, it
buys you all the art you want, you do commercial pieces, then you
can go do your own. Andthat's right. I tell young actors,
directors, directors who have a passionpiece, young directors, I'm gonna shoot
this for two dollars and fifty centsor I got no money, but we're
all going to go out and doit. And when we sell it,
old maker, our money. Thatbeautiful. I love the passion. Have

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this little pssion pro what's it about? What's about? As five guys in
the room and we grew up togetherin this neighborhood. And it takes place
over one Christmas vacation, one Christmasweekend, and there I go, sounds
great. So do that as yournumber two film, number one film you
make. You gotta have a moneymaker. You got you gotta have a
money maker. Show people you canmake money. To raise money, you

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gotta make money. Show people youcan make money. So go do a
genre piece, the horror genres.Get arte money guaranteed. It could be
shot for two dollars fifty cents literally, and you'll sell it to a horror
film or do a martial arts.I would say chop sweet film, but
my son correct, I mean said, pop, that's a little bi racious,
incorrect, but we get it.Do a chop suet movie. Yeah,

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do a martial arts movie. Youcan sell those. Go that first.
Do a do a that makes youryour passion piece number two, Do
a genre piece number one. Thereare guaranteed money horror films or guaranteed just
guaranteed. So that's why so Itell people that. But there are other
great directors out there. But itseems like he just under Copa. Does

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Branda Palma too. Yeah, you'renot gonna see like Ron Howard if you
said, you know what I meanbecause you stick with stay in your lane.
Yeah. But no, if yousay to any party out there,
who what director? Who do yourecognize? The director of the Gigsters don't
most scores? Everyone knows right someoneAnd then I'll say a couple of too
would be too so or you know, those are two names you're gonna hear.

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Um. Martin Bragman is another gun. But you people know who he
is. They know you know,if you're an actor, you know he
is a great director. And Pacinoworked with him a lot when he did
uh, you know, worked wasBragman a lot when he did Uh Carlato's
way and uh scarface Bragman. Ithink was a producer on that, not

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directed the Palma directed, right,But anyham, um, anyham? What
would you? What were you?What was the one question you want to
ask him the most? Like whatdid you want to hear him talk about
the most? If he could fryone of them? Just talking about the
characters and stuff, and you know, and the camaraderie because I actually know
Tony. Tony Sirico is a goodfriend of mine. Play uh play Pauli
Walnuts. I don't. I nevermess Steven Man samp It looks like a

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guy who would be you know,that'd be a cool person to have on
the podcast. And you know,I come on and so I met gian
Lufenia. I did meet Gonna Phoini. He's a very genial. He was
a shy guy, That's what Iheard. He was a shy you know,
and most actors are they're not youknow, they're not the most outgoing.
Joe Pesci's a very shy guy.To Groccino, Shy people um making

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or shy, so they're not um. But I would like to just being
on the set, you know,I just I just you know the stories
you know, Um, you knowDavid Chase. Eddie O'Neill was going to
do a role in that one timeand he and he was friends with Chase.
He sat down to see Starn Chasestories about Youngstime and I actually incorporated
them into some of the series,some of the episodes. Yeah, yeah,

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so, um, I don't know, I mean just being im working
on the set, working in thatwith those actors. I mean, just
as again, it's still one ofthe top three creators, probably a series
of all time. But what Iwould like to also ask him now he
was born Naples, raised in Patterson, New Jersey. But I've loved that
now because he's a wonderful artist.He got I'm gonna write down and notices

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everyone. Yeah, she came hereand he uh, I went to the
School of Visual Arts in New YorkCity. You got a scholarship and that's
a big time for people that don'tknow. It's like going to play basketball
at Duke right. Yeah, yes, yes, exactly. You know he
created a painting for George Burns too. I talked about that. So he's

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a painter. He's a painter.I wanted to ask him about that.
Painting. Apparently he bought a paintingfor peanuts and it's worth ten million dollars
or something like that. Talked aboutthat because he knew what it was worth
or knew it was worth something,and nobody else did. Right. Um,
he got a BFA in uh uhmedia arts, media arts. You

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gotta be a you know BFA.You know that's sure, and be in
uh visual arts is great media arts, media arts. And he's a wonderful
he is a painter now and he'sgetting all kind of claim for his paintings.
Now he's got you know, ifyou've got the artistic bone, and
you artistic jee obviously has. Sohe's a wonderful director, actor, painter.

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Now he's a true renaissance man.Well, that's I wanted to ask
you. I can ask you probablythe same thing I was going to ask
him. He's so well rounded,like he has accolades and degrees and things
like that. But when people seehim, they probably don't even know his
name. No, they probably AndI'm wondering, like, if you're Ercle,

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if you're you know, whoever itis, if you're known as Paully
Walnuts, Like nobody really does thatbother them or is it something that they're
like just embracing because that made mymoney. I don't want to speak for
people, do you know what I'msaying? Yes, I don't want to
speak for people. UM, Idon't know if I think. I think
Federico gets it. He understands thatthat's what how he made his bones to

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American public. He understands that,Um, I would get annoyed. Ercle
the play off guy's first name.Yes, I'm saying he lived across the
hall from me, when and whenfrom back and I'm trying to Jamal it's
Jamal something something, Yeah, playhe but the gym, that's what he's.

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Big man's man, you know,bigot No, but not Jamal Ji.
I apologize. I apologize, That'swhat I'm saying. And a good
guy man. We should see eachother. That bother Peter don't know why
should you? You made your bonesplaying that care But here's the bothers.
I don't think that bother noticed recognizesthat. I think what bother people's people

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still think they're that character twenty yearslater and they've evolved and they're trying to
play other characters. If you playedyou know, if you played Um,
you know, viracle, and youtry to move past it. Obviously a
lot of people won't love you.I always felt bad, you know.
Um. Corbin Burnson, Yeah,played Dorn Yes in the third Basement in
Major League Yes. So he fallsin love with the Soapbox Derby. He

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wants to save the Soapbox Derby,which is from Akron. So he comes
to Akron to do a film aboutthe Soapbox Derby. He's in Akron at
his red carpet premiere for the movieand people are going, come on,
drn you know, and I hadto in my mind, I'm like,
this poor guy. I know he'sin Ohio and he played at Cleveland Indian,
so that kind of makes sense.But this poor guy is doing so
much for the area and people arecalling him Dorn That's okay, you know

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what I mean. Look, JohnWayne was always John Wayne, That's what
you know. Charles Bronson and Joyalways Joe. Joe's gonna tell me how
many people say, you know youdid funny Like, yeah, Joe,
here's all the time. You'll comeon so so they they could be you

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know, dinner, I'm sure dinnerpeople you know, you know, you
know, you know everybody didn't Ihear things. I hear things, yeah,
yeah, hey, anyway, butI really please. I hope we're
gonna get Federico on again in thenext couple of weeks, hopefully next week,
if not the week after. AndI appreciate Federico. If if you

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watched us later on, thank youfor your time. I'm really sorry we
didn't make it work. Very patient, We'll have it well, we will
get you on. I'm looking forwardto that. But here one thing I
was remiss in doing last week,and I'm embarrassed. I just come back
from doing the fight. We fight, the pay per view fight between Deonte
Wilder and Louise Ortiz in Las Vegas. That's Saturday night. I come back

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on Sunday. We have the showTuesday, and I didn't bring it up
one time. How embarrassing. Andno no, because people say, well
about you. I should have talkedabout the fight then, but I will
now. And I was remissing tohim well, and I apologize first of
all, because I didn't get tosee anybody who saw the fight, who
did get to ce the fight.That punch is still resounding in people's ears

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the way Louise Ortis. One guylaughed, Zdy O'Neill told me. He
says they laughed because the way Isaid, the guy went down to sections.
And that's what I tell people iswhen the guy goes from vertical to
horizontal, that's you can recover fromthat. I mean, he just got
caught. What are you going downto sections? It means you get hit,

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your body shuts down and it's likeyou goo. And that's how Louis
Ortiz, which is not good.That means your body, that's how you
get messed up. Did you fearfor him at all? No, but
you heard it. It was acrack. He was like like a lightning
stra crack. Oh. And hewent down and said he went down to

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sections. His body just collapsed andhe fell back. But the sun ever
got to us. Credit he gotup. He got up, but he
was no condition to continue. Buthe got beat kind of tent. But
he was like in another land,another world, you know, he didn't
know what it was at. AndSteve Kim, my friend Steve Kim the
right for ESPN and UM does theradio show. Steve Kim won the best

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boxing writers there is. He hasthe best interview before the fight when I
picked Deontay to when of course,I said, I don't know how many
people, but I did say onthe air, and he will not go
past it, will not get pastthe end of the seventh round. They
stopped to fight was six seconds togo. What do you think they started
the seventh round? He was gonnabeat Yeah, I said, well,

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here we go. I figured hew I think he'd come back. I
took me. He was setting traps, he said, traps, trying to
figure him out. He wasn't gettinghurt, he was just his timing wasn't
getting He was losing, losing thefight five one, maybe four two,
but he was losing. Yeah,but I knew he'd come around. Dot
gets it. Don't have to understands. But he also understands that he can
in the fight with one punch,so he doesn't get it, keeps his

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composure. But he had Luis Ortizthat shot and he went down. Oh
Man actually said and come out withthe boy went down the sections and Louis
Ortis. I don't think he'll bein it. I don't think he could
be can't be wilder. I don'tthink he'll beat uh and the other two.

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If if Joshua beats uh Um AndyRuis that fights this Saturday night on
the Zone network. If he hasan app for the phone, it's the
streaming servers on the phone, theZone and people the Zone d A z
N. I called the Zone becausegive a little flavor the Zone this Saturday

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from Saudi Arabia. And Andy looksgreat. He's confident, he'll be He's
gonna be Joshua. I've said thatbefore, and I'm saying he will beat
josh will get But the first timewas no fluke. People said, oh,
Joshua was a good fighter, wrongstyle and he's the wrong style for
him. Wrong styles may fights,wrong style for Joshua, and his hands
are too fast for us. Ohyes, it'll be a fair fin in

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fight. But Andy's hands are toofast. He takes a good punch,
he's got high boxing que and hewill beat him again. If you don't
not stop him again, he'll notcome up again. I think I think
he stops Joshua once again, andthen they'll be talking Andy versus the winner
of Wider Fury Tyson Fury Do.Is there a date for that? Yeah,

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February twenty second. They haven't pickeda site yet Okay, possible,
Yeah, they thought about acron Yeah, but hey, let me ask you
a question. Since we're talking aboutthat. This may be the dumbest question
I've ever asked. But if itis, tell me, if it is,

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what's the worst place to get hit? Like, is it your jaw?
Is it your temple? Is straighton? Is it your nose?
Is that a stupid question? Whatdoes the most stupidest question? I thought?
I thought it would be that valid, very valid question. People listen,
People think you get everybody different.It was different. Everyone is different.
People think you get hit in thechine, you grit your chin.

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You guys can take a good shityou when you get hit back here,
there's the pressure point you're gonna go. You're you're gonna go below your ear
getting hit and temple, those arethe ones in the chell because you can't
you can term this up your equilibrium. It's just the circus going and off,
or the other one's getting top ontop of head let The guys come
on to get you see that whenthey get in the clinch. Sometimes you

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see him do that and or thisguys throws overhead ridy ducks. He gets
hun top of it and when hefalls back. Because those shirts short circus
the brain, that's temple stop ofhead or the worst the short circuit of
the brain. Now livery kinney shots. Guy gonna get paralyzed. Guy for
volmentarity, he goes down and laternot guy out with body shots. You
see that, but you'll recover fromthat. When they're doing maybe pee blood

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for about a month, I didn'tgood, but it's you can recover from.
They're doing kind of on the side. On a body shot you they're
not really hit him in the know, if you're done your at work,
your kids, punches, block punches, your bodies red liver kinney from the
side you're coming from around the elbow, right, double body shots. You
see guys that knocked out body shotsall the time. That's deliver of kidney.
There's no muscle there. So youget hit there automatically paralyzed momentarily and

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you go down. So those aretoo bad places to Those places are too
temporary paralyze, but you'll recover fromthat. The ones you get in the
top of the head and the temporariamthey mess you up long term. And
if you continue to get hit withthose, that's what happens because you guys
get hit in the head over longtiteriod of times when you know, guys
get pugialists of dementia. But that'swhat over there dementia? What were they

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called? The common term is punchdrunkenness. I don't I don't appreciate it
at all. Is is it happened? People? That happens one or two
fights and no, or it's notone or two fights, an extended period
of career over five tens fifty,many years amateur and pro. And if

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you have a lot of fights.So that's why guys fighting the forty you
have no business fighting in the forties. There's there's except but it's not the
rule. Paki Bernard Hopkins Foreman thathe came back, but he was off
for a long time. And George'sthe different type of guy. He ain't
getting smacked and hit a whole lot. To push your guys up. I
always telling people how different how muchmoney you make if you can't count it

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afterwards? It's true, you know, I don't not a spell. The
guys don't know a spell fight?So is that a did you guys already
know that? Was that a dumbquestion or no, that's all question.
That's a good question. Actually,let me ask you another question about this
fight. Yeah, if if Ruizwas winning, yeah, handedly, why
wouldn't he get another shot? OrI'm sorry, if Ortiase was winning,

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why a why wouldn't he get anothershot? Be why can't he hang with
wild? Or that? Well?First of all, can't you just be
careful while there's the biggest puncher thedivision made the biggest punch of pop and
one night. But just Jonta saysit's a good point. Downa says,
these guys gotta be perfect all night. I gotta be perfect for two minutes,
right, But would wouldn't he deservethe chance perfect? To ask your

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question? That was a second fight. He got knocked out the first time.
We got stopped, but he droppedin dropped, he hurt head him,
staggered, Deanti dropped him previous,then he got staggered, he was
out on his feet. Then hecame back and not stopped Ortiz at tenth
around, which got him the rematch. After that, you know, people's
after the fight, they asked,when did you fight for another touch shop?

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Why? I said, I don'tthink so, only because there's a
lot of good young blood coming up, but he's the gatekeeper. If you
can't beat Luis Ortez, you gotno business fan for title. And Luis
Ordiz could still fight, Don't getme wrong, he can still fight.
How they said forty okay, that'sCuban. No no, add another five

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six years really if not more reallyso anyhow but that but but you know
Andy, Ruise and and and uhAnthy Josh, Saturday night will be a
great fight. The winner will fight. The winner should fight. The winter
Fury Deantre Water, which is Februarytwenty second entered up. I lead the
winners or those fight later on.Was there was there one punch that you

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remember that was on my fight?Oh yeah, one, just one,
not a whole fight, but one. Yeah, but I docked out Orlando
Romero at the Garden Medicis Square Garden, September fifteenth, nineteen eighty three.
Left took but I want you know, I missed right. I come back
from the floor. The left caughthim on a chin. He went down
the sections too. Any any thathit you but one punch, any any

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one punch that you can remember thatthe dude just guil got through and drilled
gul. I was temping people.So it was the hardest punch you ever
felt. I said, I've seenthis guy kept dropping his hand and kept
dropping his hand, and I waitedfor the hint that that susis I'm dropped
the hand again. I shot aright hand. I felt it from the
bottom of my feet all the wayup to when you can actually I said,

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I said, I heard a stump, boom, but it was me
on the ground, not him.It was a quail at the same time
threw it, so said sent inhis land the first and that was that.
Remembered that fight and boom, Wheredid you get you? The shin
dropped, hit one knee, Igot up, stagger, fell into the
ropes. I made it through theround, up, started, came out
the next round, finished the nextround, and the fourteenth where we stopped

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me in the fourteenth. But thatround, I mean that that punched there
on that chin every day was justthat was the hardest punch I ever got
hit with. When and when youwent back to your corner, could ye
could you shake it? Well?Yeah, because I was in great ship
a little better shape. You're inthe faster april. Shake it yeah,
so then I and then I gotthrough it, went through the next round,
actually won the next round on thecutch his cars, and then but

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I came out. I was stillhurt and he could put up punches,
dropped me again and they stopped itrightfully. So I was hurt. Yeah,
would have gone that long today?No, like what if you went
down to one knee and fell intothe ropes where they have they were stuck
way that there's Tony Press the refree. I always appreciate it. Gave me
an opportunity and he's a good refree. You're cool with that? Yeah,

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yeah, yeah, no, hedid the right day. Yeah. So
are you going this weekend? Areyou going to this fight? No?
No, no, no, that'sin Saudi Arabia. Oh that's even tomorrow
night. No. Yeah, yeah. They have to bring it up and
beyond the Zone. If you getthe the Zone streaming service, check it
out. Be a great fight.But Andy Ruis will win again. Deonte

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Wader is gonna fight Fury. It'sFebruary twenty second. The sight is undecided.
He will beat Fury again. Oh, I'll say my Steve Kim.
Steve Kims has be he said,we're did an interview that before and he
said to me, we're talking aboutFury h Wader and uh or he's the
first time. But Steve Kim,he's a great writer. And he said

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it best. He said, Ray, well, you got the eracer.
He calls it the racer, whichis Deante's right hand. When you got
the eracer, I said, Steve, and I'm gonna finish your sentence,
and that then you could have changedthe equation at any moment. He loved
it. Yeah, you could changethe equation at any more. What's just
when you got the racer? Itchanged me. You could you could even
takes things out real quick. Andit's exactly what he did when you got

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I love it. That the righthe calls this right that deantors right into
the racer and he does it justtakes people out. How well I know
Deante's thirty four? I mean,is he thirty six? Is he still
going up? Is going down?Here? I know he's always seems to
be looking better. But he's smart. He's a smart man. He understands
that he's got us thirty four.Yeah, you're right, Yeah, he

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understands. There's he had his peak. I think so I don't see anybody
beat him the next ten minutes.And if you if you beat him,
you're gonna have You're gonna have tobe because he's my Brother's in shape,
he understands it. He's always takesit, takes serious. He was in
shape and he's got he. SteveKim again called he's the heavyweight Tommy Hurts,
perfect sample long lean with that righthand at time, there is probably

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the single best puncher for me.I haven't seen in boxing with that right
hand. Deontay wider got probably hisright hands being compared to Joe Lewis's right
hand, Rocky Marciano's right hand too, uh uh, smoking Joe's left hookum,
Mike Tyson's right hand. These days, he's the best puncher since Tyson.

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What a good time, though,to be a heavyweight champion. I
mean, if you've gotten all thatability and you don't really have the huge
names coming up, they're good,right, they're good. But this is
a good time for him. Imean he can hang on for a little
while, right, Deontay's well,he'll be there as long as he wants
to be. I don't see anybodybeating him. I don't I just don't
the good fighters, good heavy wayscoming up. Andy would be the one.

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Andy would be the one style wisebecause style wise hit fast hands.
He's smaller and he got a highbox. I Q in the not and
being not and that would be tome that really throws Dete off his speed.
Who got a quick hand speed whichis pretty good himself, right.
Don't think got a good ship.He's got a good beard, you know,
but I just think you know,hand speed, that would be Andy
would be the guy if anybody sothat. So Saturday Night out of Saturday

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Arabia on the Zone streaming service,Andy Ruise and uh At Joshua. I
think Reas will beat him again.It was no fluke the first time.
We'll beat him again and and andI think he beats him, Louis here,
I really do. I think yougot him down. He knows what
that writing. It feels like hegot up from him. And I think
he stops him again. I thinkhe stops him again. Um uh Deonte

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Water again Fury February twenty second sightand undecided yet And I think Deante Water
beats him again. And I thinkDeante will drop him and keep him the
last time. Don't stop him.So that's what I got to say about
that. All right. They wantto talk about the fights, and the
pay per view was a great,great card. Don't top to bottom.

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Leo Santa Cruz, my favorite fighter, fought semifinal one, his fourth world
tight on for fourth weight division.I think I saw a picture with you,
yes, said yes, yeah.I love this kid and the most
humble kid. He's the kid youwant your mother, you want your daughter
to meet. He comes from verymum beginnings. Uh exactly. I didn't
realize I was born in Mexico andraised him, and then he came here

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as a little boy. Obviously hewas born and California, but his fam
went back to Mexico and he wasraised him Loki Khan and then came here
with young boy and I met hisbrothers. Is just lovely, lovely family
man, just a humble just abeautiful kid, just a beautiful person and
one great fighter. II because sucha great fight, which because he's such

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a humble, he can't help it. Reform smiles. He's got time for
fans. People said, hey,you know, and he took that picture
to beat after he was gone.Man, he had you know, I
had to go get worked on,you know. So just a wonderful person,
so great fighter, a great card. Um. I just got our
next fight will be to talk aboutit. More about it is um from

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December twenty first the rematch between Jamalthe twin, one of the twins,
you know, Jamal Charlo versus TonyHarrison from Detroit. These guys literally and
this what did you say that youcan't stand each other? Their press conference

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the best press conference. Everyone wasat ye and then they added where's that
where that fight? The fight isgoing to be in California, Carson.
So I'll be in the studio.I'll be in the studio and this is
it? Uh? Oh yes,yes, I appreciate it. Thank you.
I'm sorry. I think he's onthe same card, is it?

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Oh, Barklays said her on Showtime, So yes, yes, Brooke.
Then the Barthlays of Showtime Jamal uhof the older of the two brothers by
two minutes. I think Jamal Charlotfighting Dennis Hogan from England, I believe,
or Australia. Dennis Hogan, roughtough guy. Uh. And we'll

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give Jamal all the give him allthe fight he wants. Yeah, but
then Jamal was just too good.A fighter will come up victorious. And
oh is that from Ireland twenty eight, two five five, twenty five,
twenty five, twenty two seven.Why he's not a big puncher, so

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big as tough as they come tough. So Dennis Hogan for Jamal Charlo on
Showtime this Saturday night and then againthe Zone if you got it? How
many hours at eighteen hours ahead?I think Saturday Arabia. So I don't
even be another day, It'll belike a whole different day. It'll be
the afternoon of us. Yeah,here am I don't eighteen? Is it

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eighteen? Well, I dad,I'm gonna that you get a futurel list
Fred, he's probably been Fred.I've never been there. I haven't been
there, but I know, Iknow it's a long way off. It's
a long way off. All right. What do you want? As you
know, if you go to Asia? Which is because yeah, first,
I don't care, you just upas impressed. Yes, I don't care
if you it's my guess, allright, what do you get? One

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pick three or five in the afternoon? So do you want to talk Buckeyes?
Do you want to talk Browns?Do you want to talk about Frozen
two or your Thanksgiving dinner? Lastlast topic for the day. About this,
all right, let's do this OhioState. All right, that's all
right, very good state bad.They just look at you. Do you
feel bad for Michigan at all?No, because that first half they were

(35:36):
in it. They were until theyscrewed it up. They were in it
to win it, and I wasnervous and I hate that game. But
that what you're talking, I don'twant to like about them that I like
that. You know, when Urbancome and I'll uh coach. Now I've
got his name, Ryan Day,Ryan Day. Okay, Um, they
played more open game. Trust playedmore of an open game. You know
what. Wood he was always threeten three downs on a clot of dust,

(35:59):
and Trust was a little bit more, not much, but he was
still. Now Urban open it upmore. And um now that Ryan Day
days. They've got speed everywhere.That defence is fantastic, and they still
whatever. They like them because theycould compete with these guys, you know,
Georgia, Clemson and want Albamazon LSU. Because there were some big boys

(36:22):
down in the Bayou, big boys, they thick, so they got a
chance. They thick, you thinkthey got a chance to win. That's
say my senses. But a coupleof girls. She thick, she is
that good. She's thick, butgood. Not fat, no, no,
not fat, not not no,but she solid. She got something
you know, you will see youhave a see girl, you go look

(36:43):
at them, Look at their feet, how they go chick their feed go
up making look at them legs.Now they're going to make an ass in
themselves. But that's I said,look at the feed. I don't look
at feet. You look at feed, look at ankles free as That's why
I'm not with any Greek women.So just kids, that's why not with
any Greek women. They always havebig ankles. And Italians my aunt Janet

(37:07):
thing I felt, so did you? I said? You over said,
kid, I'm a big empire ofthe Greeks. You know that. I
love No, I love to GreekSicilian Greece is right and there and our
people you'll right there were very similarin many the culture, very similar.
I love Greek equipment, but Iadmire them and admire the Greek people,

(37:27):
the Greek men more so because becausewhen they first emigrateed here here we go.
Do you know how harder it musthave been for them to leave the
brothers behind. See I know,rim shots, rim shots? All right?
Oh run ron, oh okay onthat. No, we can you
know we had to get next week. If we can't get Furio Federico,

(37:50):
we should get that old house steadguy back Dan hearing then here and then
we could talk about Ohio state.Would that be cool? I'm gonna try
to I'm gonna I'm gonna start doingbetter with guests. I mean, I
don't know, we've had good meeting, that's no, We've had wonderful guests.
Please don't pre meeting, but weshould. What I'm saying is,

(38:13):
I'm you guys aren't top me.I'm not on top of like I should
be. I'm gonna more on topof it from now one. I mean,
I guess lined up two or threeweeks ahead instead of just trying to
get the two two or three hoursahead. So that probably because everybody we
got anybody? So I said,well, yeah, because we don't want
to book somebody if you've got somebodycool, like who better Rico coming?

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So I booked the local dentist.Well we have Federco. We get to
have our sound system technicalities. We'llget down here, we'll get well.
Hey today, I'm not gonna sayit, but I'm saying so on you
on you guys, you guys,this could be worry about it. We
trust you. Mike doesn't work aswell. Trust you're screwed up. He
was trusted. I will never throwyou under the bus. I would never

(39:00):
three hundred and maybe the train,not the bus. One thing I learned
in TV a long time ago.Take you take the bullet everybody, because
they'll say, they'll say ray,you cut off somewhere in between hello,
hello, goodbye? Right, nosayady. And you know, guys are

(39:22):
guys working on technical they hate whenthey work their ass off, you know,
to get it and make it happen. We will happen. You missed
it by that much? Anyah,all right until next time. You know,
look, I've saw we had ashortened show today. You know,
hey, least we had a show. We had a show that some people

(39:43):
say, maybe it would have beenbetter if you did um. But going
on that note, thank you forwatching it and wacome our guests at our
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up. I had homemade homemade pastawith an a pesto side, shrimp,

(40:07):
shrimp slice, tomatoes, walnuts orno che no chess wanter. No,
she was meek. It was delicious, so um and the ground up beautiful.
So thank you very much for myman Stu and uh okay, so
that not next week we'll be back. Hopefully we will be up and running.

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But until then, take care ofeach other, love each other,
good night, and God bless