Episode #106 Remembering Legends

As the world is still in shock from the tragic loss of Kobe Bryant, we take the time to remember Kobe, and other legends, that were taken before their time and left a legacy to be admired for years to come.

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Hello, Hello, Hello, welcometo another round raised boom boom room.
I'm your host, ray Mancini herewith my ace corner man cutman Mike.
Good afternoon. What you finish?Why am I the bout of the joke?
No? No, get to finishthe ol dame Hello, are you
say? Hi? Yeah? Myman Mike? Yeah, and yeah my

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case in case anybody knows, casein case, in case, just in
case, you know, I justinthen would you remember better just in case?
All right? Uh you know ladzia. Jentlemen, Um, we were
gonna actually have a guest today.I'm gonna actually has some good people in
mind. And but I think itmight get in retrospect of all things that's

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happened over the last couple of days, um to this, since that's twodays,
since Sunday. I think it wouldbe remiss if we didn't have a
show talking about not just about KobeBryant. Okay, I wanted to do
a show about fallen heroes, faultpeople that have left us way too soon,
whatever the circumstances may be, andand and how how how people mourned

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them, how people remember them?Um, you know, for me personally,
I thought I talked to my sonsnow yesterday and my son on Sunday,
he just walked around Central but helives in New York, walking Central
Park. He wasn't picking up hisphone, so his mother's calling me,
Raymond, I can't talk to him, talking to Can you call him please?

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She was worried. Now, hadyou ever met Kobe Bryant? No?
Okay, okay? And I didn't, nor have your kids. No
okay. And the funny thing isalways thought I would eventually because when I
was there now right and while he'sdoing yeah he's doing different stuff, but
more of the animation stuff. Wellwe're talking about that. I I thought

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eventually might mean him down, butnever never did. But the reason I
was so taken by the reason Iwanted to do the show when I brought
up to our our producers, isbecause I never realized the effect on both
my sons, because he said,Pop, that was my child, my
child, he was part of mychildhood. Now, ray was born in

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ninety six, so for him forten years, you know, Kobe was
that you know when you're playing basketballstuff. My son, Leonardo was born
in ninety born in ninety one,so both third childhoods right, and I
realized the fact that this would haveon them, not only just Los Angeles

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in general, on them, whichis why I wanted to do the show,
because how people are affected by ourheroes. Even if celebrities who passed
long before they should people look upto, even something that don't, but
they still have an effect on you. It's like there's the people who've passed
that people said, I'm not afan. I wasn't a fan of their

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music, but their music wasn't partof my life, you know, that
whole type of stuff. So Ithink, you know, I've been when
Biggie and Tupac died. Oh mygod, Tom, you know how big
an effect that again, all mykids, but the people in general,
how did your kids or a differentdifferently? But but but then you know,

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my son Wilson was a visiting inNew York when I called him and
he told me, okay, Pop, I think some episode and I've seen
I heard something on I got allmy on my phone tm Z tm Z,
yeah, who, by the way, breaks everything, And I'm thinking,
well, tim Z's pretty reliable.But then I said, so I

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talked to call my son and thenhe said pop. Yeah, I heard,
and so he texted me something.Then he's texted me something that was
on Fox News out there that andI said, well man, and then
clarify, I looked up on Googleand sure enough, right, I said,
even though the details were fuzzy,right, that part that got right?
Um, And I said, youknow the impact that Kobe had,

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Like I said, I remember whenhe first was drafted, and remember in
the first couple of years he washe'd make it not always splashed the league
or splash in LA and a lotof people he was a bit steading of
fish people. Of course they madea trade to get him horse. Yeah.
Yeah, And of course a lotof people thought arrogant dec but I
thought it was always I was likethat confidence, cockey confidence. And you

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know he and when when he wasasked why he left school because he was
gonna go to Duke play for mycoach, k I anna say, but
he's play because that's where he picked. But the reason he said he went
and he got to mirr this andis he said he want an opportunity to
play with Michael Jordan against Michael Jordan. Because Michael Jordan was talking about leaving

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and the dis guy. He said, if I go to I may never
play against them. And I wantedto play against Michael Jordan to be the
I want to challenge that the best. You gotta marry that. That's about.
So that's where it came out early, and and I just remembered.
And he didn't play a lot firstyear, the first a couple of years,
and when he did, it wasjust he didn't reverberate too well until

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he got the opportunity. And thenI remember when we went on the stream,
when he got on a string ofthe championships with with with Shack,
and then when I got rid ofShock and kept and that was the thing
because him and Kobe couldn't gelong.That was the big rider thing going on.
They gotta get and want to getrid of one of them. And

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they got rid of Shack, andyou go, man, you get the
big You can't get big guys anymorebecause Shack was on the down and Kobe
was on the climb, and theysaid, this is our future. And
what he do. We wanted acouple of championships, Lader, so you
gotta marry that. I married,Uh things I was reading. I didn't
I know he was a deep guy. He won the Academy Award for That's
incredible before an athlete to cross overto being Kennon Warden, he was the

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first basketball player. Always said,I'm gonna be the first fighter. Can't
say that. Can't be the firstalto who won it? The first?
Has there been a fighter than one? Oh? There you go and shi,
but not the first athlete. Ithought it might be the first short.
I admire that, But what hedid what I'm more impressed with.

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And I tell people this because I'ma big fan about what you post athletic
life was more important for me.How you move on, how you from
there? You channel close one chapterand you want another chapter. He did
it. He did it effortlessly forme. And the funny things you never
heard a lot about how he didit. He got into businesses. It

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was. It was very smart andobviously and he was very um. He
wrote a book. And that's whathe said. Who did he talk to?
He said one of the guys,one of the sportswriter said, he
said, Kobe texted me, howit was it that I wrote a book
along before you did? I thinkit was like I think it was Steve
nay Smith, He said, haveyou been in his And I've read the
book long before you did, andyou gottamire that and what he did his

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post career it was so admiral forme? Is it means more than the
transition he made, the growth hemade uh to become what it did academy
were the spectacular. It's just,um, his brand was was expanding.
You know. Obviously he was stillout of he was out of basketball,
but he was not of public life. He still traveled to Asia and stuff

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for his brand. Um, that'simpressive, man. And that's to me
the mark he left. And thenhe's coaching now obviously where he was headed
for his daughters uh game, youknow, and let's go back a little
bit. Might talk about that.We were talking earlier. People say,
you know you hear the remarks onTV? Could They asked his Um,

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he has his helicopter pist that andwas just about helicopters. That's bigger than
the LA everyone you see him becauseguys are they're fast get to your place?
Yeah, and what did he say? What did he say? Recently
did because worried he knows that hewas stuck in traffic on the way home,
he'd be missing on his kids,all his kids activities. So he

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started doing it, and he didthem many years. Did he travel with
this this particular pilot many times?And they asked the other pilots, would
you have flown because it's super foggythat day, I don't know if it's
or whatever. You guys, andthey said, and when did you get
a lot of them said no.It's easy to say no now. Sure,
but if Kobe had to get tothe place, he doctored the kids

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and families and we're gonna get there. Do you think if I say you're
the pilot, man said Mike,do you think you could fly? I've
done this before. I flow.Yeah, I could fly. Plus,
Kobe Bryant is asking you, notMike case. No. But if you
know what I'm saying, you wantto please Kobe Bryant. I understand it.
But he flown with a many times. He's worried about please them.
Do you think you could fly?You know what I he has a little

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more cloud than a lot of people. Yeah, but if you're but if
you're a plot, you're not gonnachallenge that or sure you take it?
You think human? Yeah, I'veflunce things like this before. Yeah,
say, people drive, I hatedriving in bad weather. I was a
snow and rent. I hate driving. And you do it. Yeah,
and you do it because you gotto because you gotta get someplace. But
if I got to go to storessomething, well, I guess I gotta

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eat. You gotta get throws thefoods it up, so you go to
store. My point being is ifyou feel you have to be there,
and the hadn opplication, these kidsthe other application, you do it.
You take chances. It's a calculatedrisk, right, I tell people,
I'm I've taken risk and bart businessand stuff and other things. And I'm
not trying to make this spot me. It sounds what I'm saying, this

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calculator risk. Sometimes they don't workout, a lot of times they work
out. Most of the time.It hasn't worked out for me, but
it's been a calculator risk. Ithink this was a calculator risk confer.
I think once they started flying theyrealize that. And by all Monty constantly
they say that he was, youknow, going, and they said he
was flying too low and they toldhim. But with the one guy said

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you get the store, you endedup there the fly and then you know,
and then they started rising. Startto the said he started to get
that, which is what the controlsall him to do. And as he
started, they said he was onthe climb. He was on the in
climb to climb mountain mountains, sohe lost track of a distance wise,

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And it's heartbreaking. Relationship with hisdaughter. See the pictures of him and
his daughter, and obviously that waswhen he was close to And I'm not
saying I don't know his relationship.I don't know. I'm assuming because she
played basketball and you see the otherones, and you see she was at
ringside with him always the oldest daughter. You know, she's I'm sure he's
close to all his children, doesn'tyou know she loved him all differently.
But you have a connection on onedifferently than the other, as I did

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with my boys to all different peopledifferent Yeah. So, and there are
many other people on that plane.Yeah, I mean, let's not forget
about some of the fans. Noand and I the other. And you
see some brutal comments on on socialmedia, say what the heck man?
But I get it in some ways, I get it like something. I

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mean, nobody I think is notpaying attention or recognizing these other people.
I just and I don't think peopleare omitting them on purpose. No,
No, that's nobody's doing anything malicious. No, And to get all fired
up about that and then blast youropinion out there, it's just it's a
lot. It's heartbreaking. But tosee that, you know, I was

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reading today those guy was a militaryguy. He's why we we while we
all are we all over social media, and while we celebrating this guy when
our people are vets hero a hero, our heroes are fired and I'm taking
I'm one. An't gonna do ittogether. He's like, hope we would
be a hero to these guys.Yes they are heroes. Sure, but

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but but as a producer, JohnGreen said, who's in military? They
don't do for any recognition Our militaryguys, No, we're not We're not
paying did you see that show?Yeah, nobody pays three hundred dollars.
I'm gonna make sure I got itright. Watch Our military doesn't do it
for a court side. No,no, right should be and as it
should be. And I'm gonna tellyou what. And I don't think athletes

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who get in the ring athletes whoget in the play do it for the
recognition. They do it for thelove, and then what comes off with
the residual effect off of that isrecognition and fame and all that good stuff.
But I think you do it forthe love of the sport, obviously,
and my all count what I'm marriedabout him more than anything. And
I said, I was out there. I remember when he got drafted and

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we got signed. Jerry West wasis a basketball savant many ways saw the
telling this kid trade. I mean, how good was he when the Laker
and he was our big guy rightright? And uh and blood and another
one to it, and it's somethingthat ended up at the Charlotte. But
and um to get this kid.He saw the book that she saw that
what this kid could become. Andbut what I married, I said,

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this post fight cred that in factand and and how like I said,
he was I guess as they said. I used to read about how he
was always interested in business and hechallenged people and he asked people. But
I married this. I'm not thebest to call and saying, look,
can you call a producer Lauren?And as a favor, I'm not the
best that called people like that.I'm not not that I couldn't if I

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call, Yeah, but I'd likeif they said he had no no bones
about calling the CEO of Apple CEOsay, I mean I should just shoot
the ball with the guy, becausepeople who say they don't, we say,
well, you could could if youmake a call. But that's like,
that's pretty imptuous to think if Icall someone they're gonna pick up.
No, I don't do that.But he obviously said, well if I

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managed to believe ye, if Icall and they're gonna pick up, and
they did. I married that,like I said, the transition to business
to transition. But then you know, I know, I didn't know too
much about his quotes, but somewas something about one quote he said,
and I'm married because I say adifferent to my kids. I didn't say
quite like said, but I likedthe way he said it. But he
said, be better than your potential, be better than that, rise above

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your potential, and at very end, and I love that saying because I
try to tell my be better thanwhat you think you can be, be
better than what you are or supposedto be, be better, Try to
be better than that, you know, dul saying, and I've a used
it many times when when I havetwo talks, you know, um the
world, they said, the streetsare littered with with with a lot of

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talent with the world. The streetsare littered with talted derelicts, Guys who
didn't pay the dues, Guys whoweren't willing to pay the dues, Guys
who thought they could have you knowit, should have, could have,
would have, but never did.And you hear out that the streets are
paved with their talented derelicts. AndI always try to tell me that that's
I'm saying, there's nothing more commonthan a talented derelict. We got to

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rise above that and try to becomespecial, become the I always started to
say, become, don't become.Don't be the norm, be the exception.
And I've tried to teach that,and basically what Kobe saying is similar.
But Aron, when Lebron got onthat Olympic team with Kobe, he
learned what kind of person, whatkind of athlete, what kind of person

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that works that hard does and hehas emulated that and that's why Lebron is
Lebron because of Kobe Bryant. Andbecause he works harder than everybody. Yes,
and and and people say say itabout him, Michael, nobody cannot
work Michael and it. But thenyou heard about Kobe, and you heard
about Larry Bird, you heard aboutit about magic, so you hear about
what it comes down to. What'scommon greatness? They're all great and to

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achieve greatness, you don't. Youdon't wish it. It don't happen,
but happen, says as I tellmy kids, you gotta challenge greatness.
You gotta challenge wanting to be great. When I speak, I talked about
it, challenge greatness, you knowwhat, you gotta challenge it because to
be so I want, I wantto be great. Well, it don't
come to you. You gotta gotake it. You gotta take greatness.

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Everybody. You gotta go after andtake it. Nobody comes bring this because
you don't want to be great.You gotta go take it. And that's
doing the extra stuff, the Googlestuff that nobody else can and nobody else
will. And I'm not, byno means what I was saying. I
was great, but no means,But I res remember. But I'm just
saying from my own experience. Peoplewriters will say to me, people tell

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us you're doing road work when it'sblizzards, snow, trenchial rain. When
yeah, and I'd say yeah,They go why, I said, because
I know the other guy ain't andif he is, he better be.
That wasn't I was. I justyou weren't gonna work. I know what
the dudes I had to pay ifI felt if I was the best that

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I could be when I got aring, that I was the best,
us if I was the best mentally, emotionally, spiritually, every hich way,
physically I was the best. Andbut part of that is paying your
dues knowing that this guy, ifis, he better be. But ain't
nobody out work cannot work me?And I felt that in the gym I
felt I was For a long time, I was recognized as the hardest worken
champion, And I told me becauseI had to be. I wasn't a

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Ray Leonard. I wasn't these guysat the natural talent I have the most.
I had a lot of talent.I had the ability I had,
but like I was a good athlete, but I was a guy who worked.
It would I did the extra mileI had. I worked myself into
being a very good athlete. Ihad ability, but you I would use
it for me what I what Ihad to use You know, you had

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to think, if I'm at mybest, nobody can be. That's exactly
right, and that's where he is. That's there are other people like well,
if everything goes perfectly, I canwin, right, But these guys
like yourself, if I'm at mybest, I have nothing else to worry
about it, so I might aswell as be my best. Yeah,
because that's what great great great peopleThey challenged greatness because that's what they want

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to be remembered as. And tobe uh for them, know, only
to be for themselves. That Idid the best I could I give.
I give the best I could givemyself, and if that's not good enough,
then that's all I can give.And that's how you ask people.
I tell you them. That's howI tell my kids. I'm already said,
and I wasn't the best at this, and this, I'll be the
first my kids will take us.Said that kids be kids out there to

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have fun, and I agree withthat, but I know I was hard
on my kids and I realized thatI was. But because I sell people
but I was wrong, and Iwas wrong, but I wasn't wrong with
this. I told me, ifyou got this much ability and you give
this much effort, that's unacceptable.But if you got this much ability and

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you give this much effort, that'sthe best you got. And I just
don't give the best. You can'tbe the best you could be that day.
Some days you ain't got a lot, that's but that's but be the
best you can that day. Otherwiseyou're gonna have more. But be the
best that you can be that day. But if you go, if you're
better and you're not lack of youknow, intensity, lack of effort,

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that's unacceptable. Maybe as too much, you know, you know, I
think I was. I was hardon them, But if you can look
yourself in the mirror after a gameand say I did I maybe didn't make
all my shots, did your best, but I tried my hardest and play.
I learned that when I was hardto saw my daughter and I love
her and I but I apologize profusethat few three years I didn't make it

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and she's about you didn't make itfun for me. That like kills you
because I when what you did,you did for the best them. Yeah,
and as my Seli, an artistsays, I've been playing baseball,
it wasn't you buck, because youdidn't make it fun. And that's that's
hard it is. And I realizedbecause I tried to make it. But

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but the great kids, I think, and they're gonna be great at what
they do. They're gonna be successful. I hope it's because I taught them
listened to how to be successful.Maybe I didn't make it fun for them.
Maybe I and you know, anddidn't even you know, ray um,
but it might said my youngest said, pop, I, I you
know, I feel bad, youknow, I you know about losing whatever

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I said, did you think youdid your best today? Truly? I
say, yeah. I said,that's all we could do. That's something
no, Pop, Probably I said, okay, that's how you got answer
to yourself. I learned it bythe third child. I wish I would
have been better, uh suited forit or better. I'm prepared for it
as because you think you're doing thebest. Reach to make them to be

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great, want to be great todo and you teach them every night,
but just to be the best personthey could be the best child they could
be the best. Whatever. Butyou know, people say to me,
why did your kid have to bethe best? I said, no,
no, no, no, youdidn't hear what I said. Hold on
first, I'm not talking to yourkid. I'm talking to my kid.
I to tell my kids be thebest that you could be, not yours.

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The best that I said, Idid tell they have to be the
best, be the best that theycan be. And I'd say things have
to be why do they have tobe? I said, no, no,
you mean in first of mind yourbusiness. Second of all, no
mind you do your child. Man, you let me know I'm talking to
Mica, I ain't talking to yours. Be the best that they can be.
And that's what I'm talking about.Goes back to you today is you
got this much a building effort,and that's the best of this. That's

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the best. That's that's what itis. Be the best. And if
you tried to tell, if youdon't, that's your child be the best
they could be that day, doyou do your child disservice because sometimes you
just sometimes it's it ain't a wholelot. But that's the best they got,
that's all you ask. That's right. But if you don't give different,
And I think that's where the sayingthere's nothing. The streets are strewn

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with talented derelics, people who hadit all, could have had, should
have, could have, would have, but never did because they didn't pay
the duce and they weren't interested inbeing the best that they could become.
Kobe Brown was that type of guywho wanted to be the best, that
he could be the best of theworld, be better than mine. He's
seventeen, I'm gonna be better MichaelJordan, which people look at you like
you lost your mind? What doyou think it is about this particular event?

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I mean, there are people thatdon't even like basketball, they have
never watched the basketball game in theirlives, and they're crying. And is
it Do you think it's because kids, the kids along with r him,
or because of this just there's nineof them, or what is it about
this event that people are so brokenup? I think nobody hears friends with
Kobe Bright. No, But Ithink I'm not saying I'm not broken up.

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We're all seting. This is abig deal for a lot of people,
right, And I think it's whatI said because I said to my
son's pop because he was part ofmy childhood. I grew up being in
LA. They grew up with Kobe. Kobe was one of the first.
And then when he's or twenty twoor three, you know, runs in

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a row. He was out ofthis world. It's just that era.
I mean, like my era hadthe Space Shuttle Challenger or nine to eleven
or John F. Kennedy or youknow Jay John John or whatever had you
know John John F. Kennedy andthat kind of thing. Maybe it's just
that time now for these folks becausehe did play for twenty years. I

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mean look yes, and he wason TV every single week for twenty and
like I said, but but whenyou see him, what ad save even
the guys that go in And justthis week's Super Bowl on Sunday, talked
to the players about it where theysay the Mama mentality, Mama mentality and
the Mama Mama Institute where which iswhere they were head too. But the
fact that he called himself the momhe accepted that Monaca and he called himself

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that because the Black Mama was aleague attack attack and that's and uh,
MoMA I loved them nickname MoMA.I do know. It really is a
cool nickname, and mama mentality isthat's a cool same man, it's a
cool What is it that's that drivingtaking him out, Take no prisoners,
being better than you, better shape, better prepared, and every which way

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right, And the fact that that'sthat's the fact that that's what people remember
him by. The momamental here athletes, that's what you leave behind, the
legacy you leave behind. There's somethingabout though, these I'll call him celebrities,
famous people that die, like whatpeople that cried when Princess Diana died.
Now they don't know Princess Diana.They if they could standing next to

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Princess Diana, they might not knowwho it is. Yet they're emotional about
these events. And and some ofme wonders why some of me feels that
way. But then some of mewonders, what is it about Kobe Bryant
that I care so much that I'msitting there reflecting on my own wife and
hugging my kids and stuff like that. Really, did you really follow his

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career? Of course not right,But why are you affected because he was
a part of your life in whichway? Because he was in the media
all the time, because you watchedhim on TV, watched him during you
know Christmas. You know it wasa basketball was TV. It was the
Lakers that to um and then youknow I wrote that list of just like

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oh look in La Tyler Skaggs.No, Tyler of course was not the
NOBEO, but it was. Itwas a go for people, said Monica.
He absolutely was the kids in atschool. And I just heard from
Uh I was talking, you knowthat there was a picture Kobe. I

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guess Mike Trout were good friends,and which makes sense. Mike, you
know he would and Kobe is fromPhilly and Mike Trout was stopted from Jersey,
which is close to Philly. Youknow, um, Western New Jersey,
and Tyler and Mike Trout were bestfriends. So even though so there

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was a picture and Tyler and Kobeand the picture together and that's heartbreaking,
man, because the both of themguys. Tyler was on the climb,
Kobe was doing and Tyler married Kobebecause every kid attack. I remember,
every want to be Koby when theywere playing ball, right and so Tyler,
you know, um I looked upto him and er there's a pictures

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too with Mike Trott and that that'sthat's gonna be something and so much more
to do something right Kobe with hisnow, with his personal life and his
afterlife, his post family, hisfamily. Yeah, baby, just three
months old. Right. You knowyou're talking to Make's wife because we were
talking about with the kids and Kobeand everything, and she's you know,

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she works on tom La rammich isepisolutely sad. Everywhere you go, billboard,
every billboard, every billboard has it. And yellow the other day about
that. That's how much you know, that's crazy it is. And my
son just he was in New Yorkvisit. He just got back to last
yesterday. He got back on uhuh, got home Monday morning. Okay,

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he left New York early. Hegot home three hours change. You
anyhow, the mother works downtown,so he wanted was mother downtown and he
walked and he went to the memorialKobe around from the Staples. Yesterday he
said, Pop, it's so sad, he said everyone, he said,
it's it's just everyone's come from allover there did give you know, it's
just the morn and it was soheartbreaking and and but that's that's a beautiful

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thing. And the see that thelove for this guy. Love. It
was the same and same for thebaseball coach. People were going to the
baseball field and putting stuff on homeplate, same idea. Yeah, and
with the NBA, these guys giventhe eight twenty fourth second, uh what
they did. It's it's a beautifulthing to cd. Um. But now
we impact you see by players youknow, you don't know who who,

(27:41):
And I just I was just thinking, you know, the people have left
us down before you. I rememberwhen Elvis died. You know when Elvis
died. I mean there's others weredied tragically, all of them that tragically.
And I don't mean this and itjust I'm trying to see it in
a way that could be not misconstrued. Miss It's true. Yeah, either
way it works both. I thoughtyou were making a joke there, but

(28:03):
that was because people, you know, people will take it and try to
make it something name and I don'tmean it that way. Certain entertainers member
and when lose you know, MichaelJackson, Whitney Houston, Prince Prince.
But by all counts, people saytheir actions caused their device. Kobe was
a tragic thing. Um, rememberyou know, um, Biggie smalls,

(28:30):
you know, Uh, tupa weretragic, now were there? Uh,
we're there. Lifestyles might add something, but sure, come on, we're
that what they were doing that night. It didn't right. Um. I
just you know Elvis Bud all thoseguys on that plane plane right, sure

(28:51):
Elvis, Elvis you know, wasit was his actions part of his device?
Yeah? Um, you know I'mlooking at three the three I remember,
remember the three to twenty sixth club, Jimmie Hendrix, Jim Morrison,
Janis Joplet three all three twenty six, twenty seven or twenty seven? Yeah,
twenty seven, twenty six, twentysix and a half. All right,

(29:12):
my bad, my bad, twentyseven. Appreciate it, but okay,
thank you? Is um twenty seven? Yeah? And then who the
other couple that Kurt Cobain? Washe twenty seven? I mean, it's
it's strange. It's crazy as thatmean, and said, what was the
Kurt Cobain twenty seven? Somebody else? Twenty seven? And you go,

(29:32):
that is just it's just odd,man. But that twenty you know what
made a twenty seven? Both allthree d Jimmie Hendrix Morrison's job at the
height of the crew but again peoplesaid their actions caused their device three drugs
I don't remember, Yeah, yeah, all three. But that doesn't take
away their impact or influence on onpeople. It's still sad. It's it's

(29:53):
heartbreaking. Yeah, it's heartbreak.But when the other people happen. But
the like you said, when Iplaying went down with Buddy the Big Bopper
and Richie Valence in the late fifties, they were on their way to another
or I remember Rocky Marciano died inthe plane crash. I was eight years
old. Gonna do a piece missionsure, uh you know, I mean,

(30:17):
it's just it's art breaking, andyou go. But the legacy they
leave behind is we have all yougot when it's all when we all leave
a start, all we got isthe legacy we leave behind with our families
and our friends. That's all yougot and the memories they're gonna have you
And I tell my kids all thetime when whenever I go, I tell

(30:40):
my wife, do not mourn mefor the three day morning. That's that's
part of our our faith. Threeday morning, and then celebrate me.
And then when you spare, celebrateit's it's a it's a celebration of life.
And but when this stuff happens,man, it's just it's just I

(31:00):
don't know. You know, John, I don't know this. They no
uplifting show off. But here's Idon't And that meant to me. I
think it's a retrospective. I wantpeople to think. And here's the thing,
whatever you're thinking, whatever people arethinking out there, if they're like,
oh, come on, or ifI was really affected by that,
you can't make fun of somebody forwhat they think or how they feel.
And I think that's what bothers methe most is if if somebody feels that

(31:22):
way and they're crying, God Blossom, what do I care about? I
said, I feel, don't getmad at them for having an emotion about
it. For heaven, my kidsboth cried and they called me crying,
and I thought, don't and andand because it was part of their childhood.
He was a big part of childhood. And I think that's the impact
Kobe's leeving. Not only and thenwe know what big global sports fold is.

(31:45):
You know global basketball is. Idid too, because three biggest sports
globally soccer, I just say boxingand soccer, but for sure absolutely absolutely
so. So you know probably basketballsoccer. The two biggest right now about

(32:06):
boxing worldwide is right after that umso impact he made. When you see
people in China and Europe and Southwere in jerseys at the kids jerseys and
got them are posters and billboards inChina and whoever did you know? So
I think that's why it's it's it'ssets it hard. And again I understand

(32:27):
that people come out on social mediatalking about why are we celebrating these guys
like that we don't celebrate our military, that we are vets who have to
die on a daily basis for ourfreedom. I think we do, though,
I think we do in the celebrate, but but that's what job we
were talking earlier. They don't doit for the celebration, and they do
it. They do it. Theyprotect us, and we're thankful appreciate them.

(32:49):
We know that they have an impacton our lives on a daily basis.
I just don't know them personally orknow them in a way that we
know Kobe Bryant or that we knewBe Smalls or Tuba differently, and doesn't
mean that this is devastating. It'snot fair, No, I mean,
should we be getting military people's autographs. Probably you said there's to stop thee

(33:14):
besides him and his daughter or sevenother people on that plane. That's right.
And you know somebody said you andthat's that man, that's cruel man.
Woll whatever you do, just don'tdie with the celebrity, because then
nobody will care. Nobody's that awful. Wow, Wow, that's harsh man.
And then well we would I guaranteewe wouldn't still be talking about it.

(33:35):
No, of course I would putthat to the people. That's still
your families don't know what them?What's that mean we're about it? I
don't think we're talking about I justthink because of the impact they made on
us in a social significant way.How did you get through the Tyler Skaggs
thing? I mean it did ittake more than three days? Tyler was
because if my kids was hard,I was affected as a parent because I

(34:00):
was at I did it? Areyou through it? Are you? Oh?
Yeah? I did? I lookalmost over it. No I am.
And I'll tell you what, Mike. People in my life, just
for me, persons how I I'mI raised because of my faith, because
my my I'm being a Catholic Christian, I rely on my faith that I
did this, you know, ifI could do it one with my brother,

(34:22):
I left, we buried him.We buried him on Wednesday. I
left Thursday to go back and Ihad to because if not, I would
never got on with my life.And if you sit there and people,
because some people can't get on withtheir lives, and I just I rely
on my faith. I don't knowmy faith now. It doesn't mean I
don't wurn it. I continue tomourn it, but I have to move

(34:43):
on, you know, sti't sayingyou take that step, another step,
another step. I think much likethis for my boys of the same thing
with Tyler. It's hard much.It's hard on them, and they had
him move on. So you know, it took my my older son longer
than my younger son because he wasthe one closer room. But Ray was
still cold, so on him too. But Leonard was black brother. So
and he's not over, he's nottruly by no means, but he's been

(35:07):
got through it. He's moved onas best he could. Yeah, and
Tyler would want that, and oneknows that, and he knows that,
but you know, knowing it andbeing able to put it into effect,
it's a whole different thing. Um. Um, so pray on it.
Absolutely, no lying your faith.You pray on it. That's exactly right.
Give me strength, God, giveme your strength to move on,

(35:30):
give me the strength to get throughthis day. And that's it. It's
a daily thing. Yeah. Absolutely, you pray on it and anything good.
I'm not going anything gonna say Idid it myself. I by all
means, it's only through my faithand my faith to my trust in Christ.
And I try to try to teachmy kids that your faith is will
only get you through it. That'sall can get you through it. And
ain't gonna be anything else. Itain't gonna be a friend. Say,

(35:50):
it ain't gonna be He's not yousee on TV. But it's gonna be
you. Yeah, and it's okay. It's still be sad about absolutely,
And there's it's gonna come up youto see a picture or a memory and
get reminiscent and then feel said aboutit. It happened to me the other
day. I was in I wasdoing him. This is so dumb,
but I'm gonna tell you anyway,because why not. Um, I was

(36:14):
at a shoot. We were doinga story for our show Valley Spotlight,
Valley Spotlight dot com. Uh,and I go into the bathroom because you
have to drink a lot of waterwhen you're on a diet, and so
you know, I'm spent a lotof time at the bath Yeah, I'm
doing okay, how many times threeand a half? That's first week,
that's first day. That's a goodday, because they say the average would
be two and a half, whichis a good day. Well, well,

(36:37):
no, that gradually. So I'min the bat it's okay. I
and I'm you know, standing there, and I look up and it says,
it says the guys says, takeme out to the ball game.
Well, that's a song my momused to sing to us when we were
little kids in the rocky chair,and my grandfather loved baseball, and at
his funeral they sang it. Thelast thing they sang that song. Man,

(36:59):
I'm sitting in the bad I'm standingthere like, oh my god,
I'm gonna cry in this guy's bathroom. It's okay to be sad, it
is. It's all right, absolute, it's okay to shit here. It's
okay to them mourn. And thenI mean, but like I said,
the key is and I don't knowif being two minutes. I don't give
me ten seconds. But we moveon. Whatever that means. That's ill.
Try to tell us something number whenwe have to Tyler, it took

(37:19):
him a lot longer, and Idon't know if he's fully done it,
but he's taking the steps to it. It's okay to mourn hment, continue
to mourn him, but you moveon. We mourn him as we move
forward. Which is what they'd wantexactly exactly the sit you know, and
and what did they want to say? And what you guys said playing you

(37:40):
know cut some games that canceled,canceled the Clippers and Lakers playing right,
But what they one guy said whenwe played, because well we've I feel
that's what of course, of course, of course, and that guy's baseball
team voted to play, same ideabecause the coach want to want him to
play. Yeah, that's all hecan do it and this and it's just
um when you have you ever beenin a helicopter? I have not,

(38:06):
I I and they scare me.I try to remember, I think I
have. I think I have.But see that's the way in trouble.
What did he say he got thathe said. It's we said earlier,
we talked about earlier. If hedidn't, he'd be in a car on
a freeway, said over that,never missing everything thirty miles ago. So
he should. He chose to dothis, and he had done it for

(38:29):
a long time, and any likehe just did it. He's been done
for a long time, and hehired this guy many times, right,
and they've been it's like a catalogof things, you know, you know,
you see inside I was looked prettybetter than the one pretty impressive man
like magnum p I had. So, um, I have been in a
helicopter. Yes, the answer yourquestion, I have, I have thought

(38:49):
I have. It's interesting you knowto me with like those people that go
over the volcanoes and Hawaii and thosethings. I don't know, man,
but you know people but they're likethey're like uh, stealth fighters you know,
boom and and that's where our milturn to get in but who joke
get out you know during the allman. Oh yeah, those guys up,

(39:10):
pick them up, pick them up, take them props. Yeah.
So um, it's just um,but it could be whether it would be
an air plane where I'm just sayingI think people who because not that their
own demiset wasn't because of anything theydid or not because of any I mean,
the guy wanted to go teach thesekids play of his daughter play which

(39:31):
he had been doing on a regularbasis, and it was the first time
and he didn't ready and the firstof the first time, it wasn't the
second time. It was a minutething that he took this to get there,
the helicopter to get there. Hedid it all the time, and
um, but it still reminds us. It reminds us that any time,
I mean, when we're driving hometoday, something awful can happen, and

(39:52):
so you just say it first.That's why I tell you. People say
I don't fly. Why don't fly? Well, I said, you get
on the plane. And that's whatI'm doing. This God's true. I
say my prayers and let it go. I let it go. Pretty God,
give me the save and control.I pretty to God as over control

(40:13):
of the pilot, and give thepilot strength, power and courage to get
us there safely and and wherewithal tobe be able to hit on any situation.
You sleep, you read a book, Yes, I do talk to
the guy next yeah, yes,hopefully you don't have to. Why is
that? Why is it that wedon't want to talk to the person because
I'm I'm because I'm I usually don'ttalk to anybody I'm well, then might

(40:37):
say, if I'm a passenger inthe car, my buddy James will say
when I drive for the he drivesus every time the boxing Comission meetings on
the way back, I ain't worththe damn I go. I'm not.
I do. I always did that. I was always I always telling people
at getting the car with tell I'lltell you first year, I'm a bad
passenger. I'm a bad or good, depending on how badness is. Oh,

(40:59):
why do you do that? I'mthe table, I'm the worst,
or I'm not off. They're hopingfor the not off, but you are.
I believe if you've been one time, you're hoping for not Um.
So that's that's true. I mean, that's the thing, but um I
am. You know, I don'tknow man or our guests. You're here.
I guess we have some folks interviewingsome high school high school about that

(41:22):
maybe eighth grade, eighth grade fromJohn F. Kennedy flow the way that
they would be interesting anything I haveto say. They might be what what
message you get? What? Duallyknowing someone I got to say, They're
gonna ask you what you overcome inyour life? Do you have anything prepared?
Not prepared? I usually you knowat the moment I kind of go
off off, you might want toyou know, I mean, over you
come obstacles. Is what I justsaid. My faith. Without that,

(41:45):
I'd be nothing. I would havenothing. I wouldn't you know. You
know I told you it's the faiththat's gonna get people to this. You
know Kobe's family it was it wasa staunch Catholic, which I mattered that,
Um yea. Why his dad wasfrom They grew up, spent the
time in Italy. Yeah, that'sthat's what it was. Very cultured,

(42:05):
spoke time fluently, Spanish fluently.And that's why we need to be speaking
to the Spanish. Or that's whythey love moved. They love when you
can speak the language. And Ithink they said he was I trying to
learn German and I spoke German proo, which is great. Yeah, and
that's why I remember what what didwhat's the name say? Um the domchick
say? When he was sitting inthe term members City game was in the

(42:28):
early seven for Christmas. Was thathe was that taking that a ball out
of bounds on satellite there was hewent over the Kobe, Yeah, he
said, because Kobe said something tohim and Serbian and they have Timeue Kobe
is very culture and you do thatby that, and that's how you become
that. I tell people the time, you don't learn another language, you

(42:49):
don't become culture. The way toyou immersed into the culture by living in
these places. You even learn speakingof time, sitting in young taking uh
classes, understand it. You're notgonna speak it right. I took four
years of Spanish in co school highschool because how do you have another one
got me through? What did Istart dating? You know, Spanish girls

(43:09):
in New York and then you know, I comma stage ustead. I took
quatre on yours, yes, youknow, like you know until my first
wife is Cuban, so I startdating and then I got immersed in the
culture and where her family speaks noEnglish, her parents were mothers better learn

(43:29):
Oh you could you have to becol you here on dather basis culture you
heard, and then my kids speakingmy daughter speaks of fluently. My kids,
my boys understanding speaking, but Ihear it. If you do not,
I can hold a conversation. I'mnot fluent, but I do,
Okay, I could get by.I've been asking. I'd be on the
streets where I was, in ourstreets in La the Little. A Mexican

(43:49):
woman asked me how do I getthe bust where I go? Where you
need to go? She told me. I answered her and told her very
help were in Cuba. I've beenin Cuba twice since whatnot now because it
was closed again, But when itwas open, I went there twice.
And my son said, pop,I gotta make you do pretty good.
Well, of course, yeah,you better. So it's not like in
Spanish, muccio Spanish, which isa real thing. I speak very little

(44:15):
Spanish, but a lot of Spanish, which is a real thing where the
words becomes. My kids, likemy daughter speaks perfect Spanish. My boys
speak very good Spanish as I do. Well, you know, and that's
about it, because you go backand forth. If they were like that
for time, that's what I am. I'd be speaking perfect that whatever you
know, all three just put Spanish, Italian, no, no, no,

(44:37):
no, it's time in English becausea lot of I don't know the
words. So I go into English. They go back to that time so
they'll get it. They get it. Tell them, I'm you know,
time, I try, I tryin you trying, I try, I
try in what hey? Tell peoplewhat you got coming up? Um,
unless you want to talk more aboutthis? No, well you know,

(44:57):
I don't know. I'm just Ijust think people look last day. I'll
say, oh, I appreciate,Yes, you got covered up. Um,
it's okay. Let your kids mourn, don'tuns and what bo saying?
Why these kids don't you know hedidn't have met never met Kobe. Don't
understand it. You know, wedon't have to understand that. I don't
have to agree without it. Butjust or even those who were on Twitter

(45:17):
or on Facebook cut why people whoupset it and we don't. We don't
mourn our soldiers the way we shouldprobably valid as valid, But I think
it's because no, and John saidthe best, we didn't know our soldiers
personally. We didn't know him evencasually. We knew Kobe in a way

(45:37):
that we didn't know other We knewour our our Tyler Skaggs in a way
that you know he was. Wedon't know these others. We know,
we know our our musicians. Youknow, I was just thinking I wrote
down remember when that Alsa left thatlow pass one don Yeah, and Aliyah,
you know, the the you know, young singer. They were on

(45:59):
the climb to becoming They were starsin that community of the you know of
rap and R and B community,but they you know, they were on
the climb and um and then whenwhen they used tonight, Yeah, I
was trying. But again, I'mnot trying to nake naked right a wrong,
It's just but it was at herown device. Different, it was
different, It was different, youknow. Yeah. So um, doesn't

(46:21):
mean we don't mourn them, doesn'tmean we don't appreciate that one owning,
respect them or admire them and allthat stuff. But when somebody goes down
tragically like it happened on a Sundaymorning, man taking this kid to and
the baby goes with him, youknow, look that mother and I can't
opt call that mother. She's gonnagrieve it. She's she's gonna grieve her

(46:45):
husband. She's gonna mourn him,and she's gonna grieve it forever. But
losing her child is gonna destroy her. That losing your child will destroy her
because that potential, that's you're losinga loved one, losing the spot,

(47:05):
but losing a child. And Iknew and I saw first him with my
mother. Yeah, so, um, I pray, not prast. People
just say prayers for the family,but them for them kids. Them kids.
Look, they're gonna live and um, they might have to move,
my ex wife said in a maskspot. My ex wife said the best.

(47:27):
So I'll give it a credit.I'll give it a credit. They
live in a big mansion. They'regonna live in a big house. And
it could be no matter how big, it's gonna be empty, empty of
me because the other guy's memories.It's some empty of any love of I'm
sure love with each other though,of any joy I should the happiness.

(47:51):
It's gonna be empty for a longlong time. And if ever, they
said to me, after, youcan't walk by somebody's bedroom. No,
I mean, and then here's abed you shared with your husband. Yeah,
I don't know. I don't thinkthat's gonna I wouldn't be able to
do it. No, I just, I just and I appreciate you,

(48:13):
but I hope it's not an upliftingshow today. I just think somebody I
hope, So, I hope thisis one. Um. All right,
let's get to fun stuff. Yougotta come back two events or one big
one in February. Okay, Ido want to talk about this, which
exactly February twentieth. My foundation,Ray boom Mancini Foundation, we started first

(48:38):
of hopefully many, our first speakerseries. And it's excuse me, it's
an idea. I come up witha friend because I've seen this another place
and a friend of mine in Ladid this at a gym, you know,
at a gym and bringing different speakersinteresting you know, interesting people talk
and um, different subject matters anduh fam all walks of life. And

(49:00):
we had to use a Navy seal. Um, we had data white,
couple UFC people. I think RondaRozzi was there at the time, and
and and and so I thought that'sa great idea of speaker series, said,
I want to do a speaker seriesfor my foundation. And we're talking
meaning like the people outside the box. I want people that are not the

(49:21):
norm. So our first one isat the door Ford Recital Center downtown Youngstown,
February twentieth, starting at six thirtyseven thirty the show goes on.
But we'll have six thirty U ifVIP tickets will be on sale and you
can just general mission. If youdon't care about the food, well have

(49:42):
app You know we're gonna have food, a different many appetizer, different stations
of appetizers. Uh so it addsup to a full meal. Um,
and we have our first speakers,Michael Francis. Michael Francaise has been a
friend of mine for over twenty fivetwenty a twenty five years and familiar with
him. Michael Friends says, alot of people are a little people are.
Michael Friend says he was the youngestcoupo and the organized crime history at

(50:07):
twenty four years old. He wasa coupo at the Clumbo crime family and
Captain a Coppo was a captain ofthat family. He's twenty four years old
dictating man. Why and there's waysyou get because he was so smart he
was Michael had a genius i Qand he had he was a He was

(50:28):
an earner making a lot of moneyfor my family. Even though the Clumbelle
family was the smallest as far assoldiers. You know wise it was one
of the top two families as faras money wise because of Michael. And
they did it with the explains thatwhatever h taxing the gas, you know
it was just what he did wasyou know, all the gas, all

(50:49):
the gas, says, just fromall the old along eastern seaboard. And
now they got got you know,tax the gas. You know it was.
I can't explain it, and Idon't want to try. But if
you look him up and his father, Sonny is all this crime figure,
organized crime history. His father's legendarySonny friend stays, who's one hundred two
years old, still alive. Hestill he's in jail. And the manager

(51:13):
just got out. He was injail and one on one he went back
to jail. So Tyer Michael speaksabout and what Michael speaks about his climb
rise, the climb rising up asthe son of a legendary mom figure rising
he was going to go to school, and how he joined and got and
became a made member of organized crime, and how he made millions. He

(51:35):
had all the planes, the houses, the boats, all the crew simans.
But how he got jammed up andwent to jail and how in jail
he found God and became a bornagain Christian, and how he did what
everybody says, you can't do,how he did, But no, they
said you can't do. He walkedaway from the mom He walked away,

(52:00):
and he says, by all,by all means I should not be alive,
by all accounts, I should bedead. But why why? He
said, because my faith in Christism, God is my protector. He got
and he is great. Line isI'm trying to have him, trying to
do a show with him. Wow, that's right as well, he always
says when he comes out. AndI've been as shows before and he says,

(52:21):
I know a lot of people areexpecting the Godfather. He says,
I'm here to talk about God,the Father. That's a great line man,
And that's what he does. Buthe does it in a way it's
captivating, invigorating in his life,altering. It changes you. Man.
It's just can people ask questions?Yes, yes, oh he does question
answer So to get tickets please call. That is one thing I had friends

(52:44):
friends, man, Look, weare the great thing about doing it to
Ford recital, which down to doyour center, which is the old Warner
Brothers Theater Downtown, Do your CenterDowntown Young I look up do your d
E y O R Ford Recital boxoffice. You can only get it from
their box office. I don't havenone to do with tickets. That's the
beautiful thing to doing with that.They had all box off, they had
all tickets. They're there. Wehave VIP packages, sponsorships. We're looking

(53:08):
at sponsorships gives you ten tickets twentyfive dollars. Sponsorships get you all over
the program be announced. You'll getyou know, all kind of um and
this is the first one you wantto get out of the round floor and
speakers. Ten tickets to it thefield of total VIP before the meet and
greet, before all the all theyou know, bells and whistles to go.

(53:30):
But if Toy Fund for any companiesout there looking to do something different
with the company, just please calluh. I'm gonna give you the number
of uh my assistant Maria who's handlingall. Yeah, you can google to
foundation Foundation boom Mancini Foundation, Yes, Ray boom Man. I think that's
the best way of doing it.Or called your center and ask information.

(53:52):
So we're doing different packages for peoplewho want to be sponsors for this event.
VIP tickets are gonna be sixty dollarsa person or one hundred dollars a
couple, and that could get youthe meet and Green and all the you
know, bells and whistles, thefood and all that, or the people
who do I'm not being meet andGreen. I'm noting the food. I

(54:13):
just want to come in here andspeak. Twenty five dollars at the box
office UM SO February twentieth, whichis a Thursday night, UM six thirty,
seven thirty is the meet and greet, but seven thirty the show will
start seven thirty. Whatever it starts, usually between nine and ten. He
speaks for an hour and a halfto two hours, and then it will
be a question answer and a postfight post fight. I hope they show

(54:40):
meet and none me. He signsbooks after, so if you want to
buy a book, Fiz, he'llcome in. He'll be a special place
you can buy one of his booksand get to shake his hand. So
again, Michael Friends says, willbe our first guest, and I'm very
flat hoard and again to look itup on a bootray boom Man. Seen

(55:01):
you our website, UM and meeting. Like I said, it's just of
our Speaker series February twentieth Thursday,and I get the your for risetto box
office handle was all tickets. Idon't um. I don't want to get
whacked or anything when I say this, But we just said you too many
movies. Nice. I just saying, if you're in jail at age one

(55:23):
hundred, you really did something wrong, like the Sunny Man, whatever it
was. Father Michael talks about it. Funny Sunny is one of the old
time no offense Sunny no offense,no, no, no. And that's
see Michael right. They thought alot of people thought he read it he

(55:43):
got How did he get out ofJoel? How could he get out of
Joel? He did about eight years. How you guys what he expected to
go. But because he read nobodyout Michael. I never had anybody.
He got him because they got outof Technic Color. He got out on
his own mission for him, andhe did what everybody said he couldn't do.
He doesn't. He doesn't travel withBuddy, and I don't bother him.
He doesn't know Michael because he's harmless. He doesn't hurt, He hasn't

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hurt anybody, and he never gaveany testimony hurt anybody. That's what I'm
saying. That's why my all admissionshe shouldn't him. But well, I
don't know if they respect him ornot. But he's living in a wonderful
life in California, traveling the country. He does. He does a show
out in Vegas too. He's donea you know for everyone hotels down tom
this show. So people, ifyou're interested, please Ray Buo Mancini Foundation

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our first of our hopefully many morespeaker series. February twentieth Thursday, called
up do your four recite of BoxOffice to get tickets and look up Michael
on the internet. Michael friends,jaisey f r A n Z. I
mean c eazy e. That's right, Francis Michael France chas Michael Francis is

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the proper way to say it.But you know, for people say France
says tons of Chase. So anyway, that's what we're doing that up on
and um, all right, it'sa bit about to talk to the kids.
Yeah, I'm gonna go do aninterview with the kids. So people,
Thank you, man, thank you. I hope that the show was
enlightening in some sort of way.I hope, hope way back next week.

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Sometimes we find out, yes,yes we are, we are back
next week. We are because youknow, because of travel, of course
we are. I'll be back here. We have a good guests, well,
we'll have a good guests. Maybewe talk about the fight coming up
to coming up? Yeah, yeah, the twenty second, yes, you
know the water fur if it,we'll talk about that. All right,
good? What you don't look likeI'm gonna be out there because now even
though it's a co promotion, dothe PBC and and top rank, the

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ESPN is hid all the technical foxesout foxes and dussion espn um again,
thank you for your time. UmI forgot chest the fight last week in
one of our PBC Danny Garcia beatIvan red Catch. So now he was
in lying to fight Manny pack Outor Mikey Garcia. But it looks like

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man Pao or Errol Spence find OrriellSpence. But it looks like Minnie Packyo.
Because Errol is recovering, He's gonnacome back, and I'm gonna come
back fight and then get back intoit. Is he gonna come back,
He's come back. He's fighting somethingabout me. No kids as unbelievable if
you could believe. So we'll seewell. Until next time, Thank you
for your time, Thank you,if you'd like to show up, please

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pass it on to others, youryour thoughts and if you didn't, keep
it to yourself. But until nexttime, to give each other, love
each other, good night and Godbless