Episode #109 Kevin Iole

Today in Ray's Boom Boom Room we are speaking with Kevin Iole, days after his interview with Deontay Wilder follwing his 7th round TKO defeat at the hands of The Gypsy King, Tyson Fury. Kevin has been a combat sports journalist for over 40 years, and winner Nat Fleischer Award of the for career excellence in boxing journalism. Follow Kevin on Twitter at @kevini, and Instagram at @keviniole

Episode Transcript

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Well, hello, Hello, welcometo another round to raise Boom boom room.
I'm your host ray Man Seney herewith my Ace Cornerman cut Man my
case. A lot to talk about, and especially about the fight this past
weekend. We got a very veryspecial guest uh waiting on the line for
us right from Las Vegas, whowas there in the heat of it all,

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and we're gonna speak to him.Um and I'm one moment, but
I wanted to talk to real fastMike. Did this Kobe Brant memorial service
yesterday? Yesterday? Did you watch? Yeah? Well, no, no,
I saw the you know, afterthe highlights, the highlights on all
the sports and the news and butwhat I'm what, I don't, I
don't know if he understood how howwell beloved he was. I would agree,

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I would agree that because I livedin La all those years and he
was well respected, well respected whatwould have not but not always light by
everybody. I should see that,you know, just everyone thought he was
kind of stand offish and whole thing, which she said he was and him

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blamed him for shack leaving. Butthen when he won a couple of titles
with Paul Kasaul, they said whilethey were right, but a lot of
people blame him. But how belovedhe wasn't which is a beautiful thing to
see. And and what a smartkid it really was. He dedicated himself
to to you know, children's books, and he won the uh you know,
I won the Oscar for the shortyou know basketball story, basketball life,

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very very just deep set him agun, really a deep kid.
And you know, I didn't realize. And that's a beautiful thing to see
how well beloved he was and tosee his wife and all the people speak
about it. I didn't realize,you know, when he had such a
close relationship with Michael Jordan. Ithought that part was interesting because if you
if you've been in my shoes whereyou've ever interviewed him after a game,
you have to wait until he getsthe tie on and looks perfect. He

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needs Michael or Michael Jordan would alwayswant to be perfect, like his image
was a very important thing to him. And he wasn't ever really controversial or
anything like that. You never reallygot to see the true Michael Jordan.
But then to hear what he wassaying and to see the tears running down
his cheeks, it's almost like thatwas kind of like the first time for
me anyway where you really got toknow that he wasn't just a basketball machine

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and a corporate you know whatever,like he was just a real person for
once. And that was really great. It was And a lot of people
didn't know, and I'm sure theydon't know, even guys on the on
the sportscast set. I didn't knowMichael was as close to Kobe as they
were. But you know, that'sthe beautiful thing. You don't see a
lot of things behind the scenes.Behind you know, they developed a friendship
and and you know, even youknow, Shaq come up. Everybody's my

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little brother, my little brother,which is a beautiful thing to see,
don't get me wrong, but it'snice, you know. And tough was
the funniest line about what Shack said. No they bleeped it, yeah,
you know, and no Iron team. But there's an m E and I'm
assuming, yeah, I'm what hesaid, motherfucker, Yeah he did.
And he said that, yeah,I'm assuming, yeah, I mean,

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which is true. It's an meither. Yeah. Uh, good thing.
We're on We're on you know,we're on the podcast on the past.
Yeah, But um, that wascool. That that he and then
and then Shack said he went tothe coach and said, yeah, we're
just gonna rebound. Then, yeah, we'll let him shoot and we'll just
rebound it because he had passed it. That was fun, But you know
it's just how about the strength forthe wife Vanessa to say, I mean,

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to be able to even get upthere and say some of the things
and remember some of the things.I don't. I've done eulogies before.
It's off it's it's off net.Sometimes you can't get through it, and
I never I can't say I did. And then just say this, Um,
I'm worried. He I knew,remember all reading about it when he
was you know, for us tosay a freshman rookie when he started dating

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her. You know the thing,he was dating this young eighteen year old
girl, high school girl, andhe married right out of high school.
She was eighteen when he married her. He was twenty twenty one. And
you know, they went to theone hiccup and by all accounts and had
a strong marriage and they ended strongerthan ever. And I admired that.
I admired that more than anything isthat he was he was devoted husband and

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a devoted father. Um, it'sjust it's just a it's a beautiful thing
to see. And uh, it'sjust the fact that he took his after
a retirement, took it to adifferent place, you know, and uh
one of the Academy Award for that. Incredible. It just shows that what
you can do when she retired,not a basketball player always and just what
a talented person, not just avery deep but a talented person, very

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deep guy. Um okay, let'sgentlemen, this path this weekend. You
know, it was one of thebiggest hyped fights of all time, one
of the biggest hyped heavyweight fights ofall time between uh and we talked about
him, Mike and our next guest, I'm gonna ask him. We're gonna
talk about that because you asked melast week. Is that make a difference

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when you got a white fighter anda black fighter? I said, absolutely
no. Everyone knows boxing is aboutthe race. Start out in the twenties
was the Jews. The thirties,it was the Irish, the forties,
it was the Tians. Now it'sthe black and Hispanics. Those are the
best fighters. So whenever you havea good white fighter or a white fighter
who's out there and like, look, I was the only white champion for

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a long time. They're all shootingfor me. You gotta turn around your
head. No matter what. Thisguy's bigger, he's you know, he's
bigger the most. He's bull braggadociousthe most. He lets you know who
you know, the gipsy king andhe goes out there and he said,
I'm gonna knock this guy out.I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna doing
and you know all accounts, yougotta pay attention to that, so you

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want to see that. So,um, what happened? I thought that
you asked me that I think tofight lived up to the hype? I
did? You said you didn't,But I'm saying you said you didn't like
to fight. I said, Ilike to fight. But when I say
the hype, because meaning are theystill talking about it on Monday? On
Tuesday? Is that water cooler conversation? And this is so to me,

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it lived up to the hype.If it ain't, no one's talking about
it on Monday. No it didn't, but this one did because of uh,
you know, I'm gonna knock youout. The last fight, it
was controversial by all const Most peoplethought Wilder, I mean, Fury should
have won the decision even though Igot dropped twice. Wilder said, I'd
dropped you twice. I'm gonna keepyou on this time. I'm gonna knock

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you out for good this time,and then with it, you know,
and then Furious say, I'm gonnaknock you out your bum rdassa dasa or
whatever. Dossa. I'm assuming theyhave Assau. All this it was just
great, all the back and forthbecause you know, Fury could talked with
the best of them, and um, but he said he did what he

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said he was gonna do. That'strue. So I just a different criteria,
is you My My theory is ifif I was at home and I
paid seventy five bucks for that fight, would I be glad I did or
mad that I did? And Iwould have been mad that I did so
to me because in a good fulldistance, Well, we'll bring in our
guests. Now. If he wantsto hear my thoughts, I'll be glad.

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I don't care about the first ofall, I'm sure I don't want
to hear your thoughts all the time. All the time. I do not
let me bring in our next guest. Ladies and gentlemen, Our next guest
is a good friend of mine.What the top boxing writers in the country
by far? Uh, there's youknow, there's only about a handful of
these guys that though. He's definitelyone of them. He's been out there

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in Las Vegas. He's just toldus that in nineteen eighty two. I
thought, you know, that's whenthe year I won the title. But
I did not know. He's originallyfrom Pittsburgh, PA. Down the street,
just down the street from the road. Grew up with the high school
college in Pittsburgh. So I'm veryhappy to know that I did not know
he was a homeboy. So uh, but when I got to arrive in

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Las Vegas nineteen eighty two, hasbeen there ever since. And uh,
one of the top box for writers, one of the top boxing minds.
If you talk to him, heknows the game. He's seeing enough of
them. He seeing them all fromthe eighties and the nineties, and you
know, so now, uh,he's very intim knows these fighters. Intimately,
he's a go to. Like ifwhen you when you watch a fight,

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you want to hear or read whatthis guy's got to say real for
the review Journal? Uh, LasVegas. Well, I gotta ask it
Las Vegas. I'm gonna ask LasVegas Journal review. Yeah, review Journal.
I said that the Las Vegas paper. How's that there's two of them
at one time? I think there'sonly one now anyway, With no further
adode, my dear friend and topBoxing round, top boxing mind, keyword

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boxing mind. He knows the game. Kevin Ioli, Kevin, how are
you, my friend? Oh?Ready for Yahoo? Now? Ready for
y'all? Who? He said,Yahoo on the internet and everything. So
he has his own thing. So, Kevin, how are you? I
am doing great? Good to hearthe guy? Kevin, I was that
intro? Is that okay? That'ddo? Okay? That coming from you?

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That was like me, bet whenwhen my dad was a wife,
you were his second favorite fighter.His favorite fighter was Rocky Marciana. They
always said, ray Mancini comes aroundand my dad is with man. Whenever
I've seen you, I always Ialways think of my dad. So it
makes me happy. I appreciate that. Kevin's very keen. That Kevin was
it. He wished to be theLas Vegas Journal, but it was Is
it still Las Vegas Journal, oris the review journal? Yeah, review

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journal. It's been a review journalfor a long time. Yeah, it
is, right, but it was, but it was Las Vegas Journal.
Wasn't always Las Vegas review Journal,right, Yeah, it's a review journal.
Yeah, now that for a while. So okay, And I was
there. I left there in twothousand and seven and went to Yahoo in
seven. So I've been a Yahoofor quite a while ago. Okay,
okay, so you've been. Ididn't realize you left there. Okay,

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that that long ago. I didn'trealize that. I thought you did both.
But but I guess. Yeah,who says, hey, we need
you full time and then you betteroffer you a better deal? Okay,
Yeah, they asked me to deal. I couldn't repeat it. That's what
I would say. Now, Kevin, tell us you were there that night.
I saw your live stream right afterthe fight, and that's why I
wanted to get in touch with you. To come on. I wanted somebody

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who was there. But you've beenall You've been all the big fights to
from the eighties on. What wasthe atmosphere like in this one? I
say, you know, they dida great job. The only thing that
I did not like were I wouldagree with Mike when he asked a question
about they did you see it likeyou spent your money wisely? I thought
the undercard was terrible. They didn'tput on a very good undercard and they

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could have done a better job onthat. So but if we go to
the main event, from the presentationof the main event, the atmosphere was
electric when they came out. TheBrits were into it, singing. I
thought furious walk out was epic.Carried on the throne and he was playing
Patty Klein's crazy, which you knowalluded to his mental health issues. Uh.

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And then Wilder and you know,we little did we know it's Wilder
the story that would come up abouthis costume as he walked to the ring.
But I thought that the fight movedup to it, you know,
from a competitive standpoint. Hey,they were going at it the bell Ryan
Tyson, Fury bounced out of thecorner. He landed a job in the
right hand immediately, and I thinkthat set a tone for the kind of
fight that was going to be andFury. In my mind, Ray fought

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a perfect fight. I don't thinkhe could have fought a better fight.
If he would have done that tentimes. It was just an amazing performance
fight here it was, it wasand by all accounts, you know,
I mean, look, it'll bethe biggest thing. You know as well
as I do. Bob. Nowthey're talking about you know that Deandretante activated
the rematch clause, and you know, but Bob and Shelley of Defense and

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and to me, to me didn'twant to write back. I understand that.
But maybe maybe you know, Boband shelly'll talk. Maybe Wilder,
I mean, I'm sorry, FuryJisha might be bigger fight. They could
probably saw Wimbley Stadium. You know, that's one hundred thousand, and let
Walder get the winner of that oryou know, but I don't understand.

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You want to fight the guy tobeat you. So I get that.
I get it. So that'd beinteresting to see what happens and next,
you know, in the next coupleof months. But I gotta tell people,
Bob, Bob, Bob has beena top promoter for the last fifty
sixty years. He ain't had aheavyweight since Hohoven was president. Now that
he's got a heavyweight and he gotTyson Fury, Bob will milk this cow
towards dry. Do you agree oryou don't agree. I totally agree.

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But I want to just tell youa little story. You may not know.
You know how Top Rank got TysonFury. No, I don't know.
I was one there. It wasme because I actually watched that Tyson
Fury appeared on Joe Rogan podcast,and I watched the podcast and he talked
about his mental health problems and itwas it was really an incredible interview and
right, if any of your listenerswant to see it, they can just

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go on YouTube and search for TysonFury O Rogan and they'll find it.
And it was incredible. So Icalled Todd the Buck, the president of
Top Rank, after it was over, and I said, dude, you
got to listen to this. Thisguy was incredible. It was an the
most amazing thing. And he's like, So I went and found it and
I sent it to him and hecalled me and later he said, when

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I listened to that podcast, youwere right. We had assigned this guy.
And I went out and I madea deal with Frank Warren to get
him. Well, I was wonderingthat was the thing I knew. Frank
Warren was his manager. But Ithought, I thought Eddie Hearn had him
tied up, but obviously not.You know, Eddie Hearn wanted to get
Fury, but Fury sign. Fury'sdone with Frank Warren for a long time.
And when Warren made the deal,knew it was better for Tyson to

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come to Las Vegas and work outwith top rank, and so he made
that co promotional deal because now he'sgetting on the ESPN and getting that exposure
that ESPN provides in the US thathe didn't get when he was in the
UK. Right, right, No, that was a brilliant move. I
just didn't know how how it cameabout. You know, well, I
thought it was you know, ifhe was a free agent or not.

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And Bob was a fine you know, because Bob, Bob's the best at
that stuff. He really is verygood at finding these types, you know,
find those guys and scooping them upand and he can you know,
you'll turn them into a champion andit'll make it'll keep him a champion for
as long as they can want tobe a champion, because Bob will create
every every type of you know,uh fight, you know, every type

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of atmosphere. What I'm trying toevent. He'll make it an event every
time he fights. Now he's gotto taste the fury. You know,
it's going to be an event.You don't even have to try. It's
going to be an event. AndBob will hold bubble Bubble do very well
with him, They will do verywell together. I should say, I
agree with you. I mean,but what's the last time Bob had a
heavyweight champion? Was it all eI'm say again, Kevin, And when's

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the last time Bob had a heavyweightchampion? Oh? I was George Foreman.
George Former went the last champion inthe in the nineties. And then
that Foreman or Foreman beat Michael Moore. That's right, that's right. Okay,
I forgot about that. So,I mean it's just brillive. So
and I mean, but that wasthe atmosphere. It was electric. The
fight lived up to the hype.Now here's my Now. Last week I

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had some people on. A friendof mine said this, he said,
when when um de aunty Waterer itgets hit over, he goes, he
says, his legs go out likea giraffe, and I start laughing.
I couldn't stop thinking that exactly mywhole fight. And Kevin said, when
he went out and he and hegot staggered, he looked like a giraffe.

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He did. He was just legswere all over the pali and I
said, ah, be damn.And my guy said, my friend said,
you know, you take away hisright hand. That's all he depends
on. He got no. Youknow, he might as well stick the
left hand up his ass because hedon't use it. And he didn't.
He I mean, well, that'sthe thing, is basic stuff, Kevin
jab Jeff, because to me,Water could be he'd be unbeatable if he

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just used that. Jab said,like like a heavyweight alex Agua Aguayo would
win rons just with the left hand. And then you drew a lot of
guys sleeping. Then also dropped aright hand. Boom, it was over.
But but Wilder's so dependent on theright hand. I don't know.
He never these guys never taught himon to fight. And Mark Brennan is
a very was a trail of afighter. He looked by all accounts him

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and you know as a good trainer. And j D's too. But when
Tyson, when when water gets hurtor bewildered or out of sink. Everything
is that right hand. He doesnothing to say that he looks so amateurish.
Am I wrong? No? Youknow, here's what I think.
I think he usually had so muchsuccess early in his career because they sat

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him a lot of guys that,you know, didn't give him competition.
One of the things that made youknow, a top rank so good was
people don't think about was Bruce Trampler. Their match made the best and the
best knew how to build fighters.You know, he did for you.
He did it for so many fightersbecause he was a protogyf Teddy Brenner.
He was a protegyf Teddy Brenner.I'm sorry to mean he cut you off,
right, yeah, right right.And with Bruce learned from Teddy Brunner,

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who was the best, and Bruceis now the best. And what
Bruce did is he would look atguys and he said, Okay, he's
ready for this type of fighter.He needs to see this type of fighter.
And so by the time you gotto the top level and you were
ready to fight the best guys inthe world, you had seen every style
and you were exposed to you knewwhat you had to do to combat it.
That was the genius at Bruce Trampler, and I think when Deontay on

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the way up, he didn't havethat, so he was just able to
hit guys and he didn't he wasn'tforced to develop the skills and everything.
Now, I think Santy has goodfootwork, but he doesn't use it properly.
But what he is good at doingis getting you know, his feet
quickly set and then turning off andthrowing that right hand. So I kind
of thought my thought of where thefight would go, Fury would be winning

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all the rounds and then sooner orlater he'd make a mistake in wider or
land the right and the fight wouldbe over. And that was almost what
happened the first time around, butFury Fury negated it the second time because
he fought brilliantly. Well, well, you just said he came forward,
and that was said he was goingto do it, and you know,
I'll listen to guys. Even myfriend Mark Kriegel, I listened to him

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and he says, you know,you know, what do you gotta do
back? You know, if you'regonna be the bully, you gotta back
the bully up. Don't chance yougot against the bullets to back him up.
And you know it made sense,you know, all accounts. I
just didn't think he'd be able todo it successfully. But I don't know
about this, Kevin, I saidtoday, And I might be wrong,
but I'm not so sure. Isaid, I'm not so sure. It
was a whole lot. Look,Tyson Fury is a good fighter. I

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don't think he's a good fighter.He could move, he got a good
movement. I don't think he couldpunch a lick because he pushes his punches.
He don't. He's a big,strong guy. He clubbed uh Wilder
knocked him down first time. Nowhe didn't want a girl of a body
shot the second time. I don'tbelieve he went down on a body shot.
I ain't seen a heavyweight or aheavyweight champion go down with a body

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shot since forever. But but he'sa big, strong guy who clubs you
around. But he's got good Ialways thought he was a good fighter because
he had a good movement. He'sa good box, a good movement,
you know, But I never thoughthe was you know, and I still
don't think he's that he's a goodfighter. But you know, I think
he's very beautiful too. But thething is, I don't think it was

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a whole. It was so muchwhat Fury did is I think it was
a less It was a lot moreof what Wilder didn't do. Not wrong
in that? Am I wrong inthat? Let me so, let me
ask you this. Were we disappointedin Wilder and our level of disappointment because
I was. I was disappointed inthat it was less of what he did?
How about you, Kevin? Iwas disappointed in Deontay too. I

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thought that he would show better thanthat, and I thought that he would
be understanding of the fact that whatFury was going to try to do.
Because look, you know, inboxing, there's a couple of ways you
can deal with a puncher like that. You know, back in the day,
Ernie Shavers, Mike Tyson, Foremanwrong lyle all these guys. The
way you deal with it is eitheryou give him a movement and a job
and you create angles, or yougo toward him and make him back up.

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Because most big guys and most bigpunchers that can't fight very well going
back there, and Wilder hadn't shownagainst anybody really any good in his career
that he could do that. Sohe had an entire training camp to work
with Mark Wheland and j D.S and no, this is what Fury's
going to do. This is whatI have to do to counteract it,
And he just looked like he wasn'tready for it. I mean, I

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think, you know, he hadhad to come out with some kind of
better game plan than he had.He claimed, you know, to me
that the costume cost him his legs, and so the game plan that he
did have, in effect, hecouldn't execute because of the Problemty had with
his legs from the costume. Youknow, some people are mocking him for
that, but he truly believed that. But I think, you know,

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whatever it was, I was disappointedbecause he did not establish a proper game
plan. He never showed anything inthe fight the way he told you about
the costume, Like he specifically saidthis to you. And what was it
about broke the news? I wasone of the broke the news yesterday.
Yeah, Well, what was sobad about it? Was it too vote
him on Sunday to talk about justa follow up? He didn't attend to

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postfight press come So I called himon Monday, and he wanted a way
to Monday to talk to want totake an extra day off. So I
understood that. So I talked tohim yesterday afternoon and he and the first
question I asked him, as Isaid, you know, I asked him
about his health, and then afterhe said he was fine, then I
said to him, you know,it seemed like, you know, you
got hit with the right hand earlyin the fighting, your equilibrium was off

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and you never had your balance therest of the way. And he said,
no, it wasn't that. Hegoes, I lost my legs because
I wore this forty plus pound outfitto the ring and it was a big
mistake. And I was shocked,and at first I thought he was kidding,
but his voice was serious, soyou know, I asked him another
question about it, and no,he wasn't kidding at all. He was
serious. So that's what he said. And you said he got the costume

(21:38):
the day before. Yeah, hehad ordered it earlier, but it did
not arrive till Friday evening, sohe didn't even try it on until Saturday.
So yeah, that was And thenthey were debating. He said in
the locker room they were debating whendo I put it on? How early
do I put the thing on?Yeah? So it was like, I
don't think it was really a wellthought out thing. No, you know

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that's what I said. You weretalking about these costs and wasn't worried about
to cause him? I said,I WoT putting the robin trunks on like
the old like all everybody else.We're a nice roban trunks, you know,
glitter up the way you want,or just go tyson and don't even
do the robe. You know.Yeah, right, Kevin, these things
are getting ridiculous now, and youknow what you want to worry about to
causset him? How fly you're gonnalook coming in the ring. It just

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costs you the world title, justbecause if you believe that, if you
believe that's the case, and he'sobviously he does. I just put the
damn roban trunks on. How aboutthat? You know, put literal under
robe. Right. But here's theproblem. Here's what the problem has become.
You know when you were fighting,uh in the eighties, you know,
you look at boxing and it wasa bigger sport than it is right

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now. Yeah, boxes kind ofgotten marginalized over the last couple of years.
So people like us that are diehards, we are into it.
But they're trying to appeal to peoplewho maybe they were boxing fans before but
gave up on it because of allthe problems that were they were having.
So they're trying to do things thatthey think would track casual fans or create
new fans. We're trying to dosomething. So I like that aspect,

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but I think you can't lease citea way. This is a sporting competition
and you're there to win your event. So all the you know, all
the colorful stuff you do, nomatter what it is, if you cannot
perform because of it, then youdon't do it. And that's what I
would say, Well, you knowthat's what you said, that he just
got a Friday and he didn't tryit on like I had. I had
a woman in Youngstown make all myRobin trunks when I was an amateur till

(23:29):
as a pro. But I alwaysdid a fitting before you do a fitting,
you know, I mean that wouldprobably helped. You don't do a
fitting, well, they I justI understand that you know, you don't
think it's gonna wait us, don'ttell them. You know, hey,
do you know what it was madeout of? Kevin? Did he say?
Um? You know? He didn't. I didn't not to ask him,

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and I didn't know before the fight. Is one of the people on
his team told us before. AndI forget what it was. But there
was batteries and all sorts of thingsin it, and but I don't know
the actual material. Okay, Yeah, So it was heavier because it had
to light up and sparkle and stuff. Right, it had the eyes,
led, the mouth let him.Then there was a thing like around the
neck and cheft that lit up.I cannot believe we're talking about this.

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No, I mean, that's thething. That's that's gonna be the talk
most of the day, most ofthe week. I mean, but I'm
not saying it's not valid. Imean, obviously if you were fourteen more
pounds going in and through the fight, but or forty more pounds, I'm
saying, was it forty or fourteenforty? Right? The costume was forty
forty thirty pounds Okay, but everyand he was and he was heavier than
he never waged friendly fighting anyone,right, But it wasn't a whole lot

(24:36):
heavier, but fifteen pounds, hewas like nine pounds one and he's ever
been with two twenty two. Ibelieve it was right. Okay, so
now you put another forty so yousay fifty pounds heavier than he's ever been.
Yeah, with that, But inevery single person that's talking about this
right now, we'll end their conversationand then add this, what a dumbass.

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But right, isn't every single persongoing to do that right afterwards?
Yeah? People are laughing at him, and it's a shame. You know,
he is a guy that really hasdone so much to lift the heavyweight
division. You know, Ray,you've done his fight, Yes, you
know, Mike, you and Ihave watched his fight. You know,
he's a guy that has done alot to make heavyweight boxing popular, and
he's promoted and he works his rearend off to you know, help get

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the sport where it is. Andnow to see, you know, the
way in the biggest fight of hiscareer, to see the way people are
treating him, I'm disappointed for himthat had happened that way. Yeah,
me too, because you know whatI do like Deonte. Deonte is a
real good guy, you know,funny before I met him, and all
you know, you hear, youread the things he says and some things
that you're going, who is thisguy? Man? What? And then
when you meet him, he totallytakes you off guard. He's a sweet,

(25:47):
sweet guy. He's a genuine guy. I really really enjoyed meeting him.
I really thought we developed, youknow, some type of friendship.
Um. But man, and Ihate to see him. I picked him
to win, you know. Itold him. I was at an event
and had a friend of mine said, ray, what do you think.
I said, water is gonna stretchhim tonight. He'll leave no doubt he's

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gonna stretch him. And I said, he'll stretch. I said, the
best bet is that this fight don'tgo twelve, it ends by ten.
He'll knock him out by ten.My guy looks at his guy guy and
says, put five thousand, onehundred to win five thousand on a knockout,
five thousand, five thousand, fivethousand. I said, no,
no, I said, oh,I've no one a five thousand, five

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No five thousand him to win fivethousand on a knockout. I said,
oh. And after the fight,I called, I texted on my call
I said, I'm so sorry.He started laughing. He just said he
said, he said, look,yeah, we all know when we're betting
what we were getting ourselves in there, No no problem, no problem.
But they kind on my expertise.That's what I'm saying. That's why I
feel so bad. They kind onmy expertise. And I felt like a

(26:51):
chump because I couldn't believe that hedidn't, like you said, Kevin,
he didn't do anything. He didn'tperform at all. He was so amateurish.
He was so he looked so amateurish. I mean, you know,
I just I seen his amateur youknow, some tapes some before he was
an amateur. He looked like thata little. You watched the fight on
television. I wonder if you sawthis. I wanted yesterday when I wrote

(27:15):
my story, a person who watchedthe fight online. I don't know.
He just reached out to me onsocial media and he said, how can
he didn't write anything about him walkingaround in the locker room. And I
said, well, I was atthe fight. I didn't see what he
was doing in the locker room.And he told me, he said,
Wilder was pacing back and forth.So I actually checked with some people and
sure enough, you know, hewas up like he didn't sit down for

(27:37):
the last ninety minutes and were justpacing around the locker room. And said,
you know, he might have walkedtwo miles in the locker room just
doing what he was doing. AndI wonder if that might have you know,
kind of worn him out a littlebit. You know, he didn't
relax and lay down. He wasjust you know, kind of going back
and forth, back and forth.Well, you know, Kevin Furey said
that, because yeah, he was, he was pacing back and forth.
I don't know. Well if itwas an hour before I look, I

(28:00):
remember him nice to sit there andthey tell you okay, and then Griff
would say okay. About like they'dsay, uh about forty five minutes to
an hour, okay, Ray,put your shoes on. And then about
a half hour before we knew wewere supposed to go out, Griff say,
okay, man, start shaking out. Stretch, stretch, shake out,
and then you do a light shakeout, and then about they say fifty
you know, they come in,okay, fifteen minutes. Then we start

(28:22):
hitting the pads, hitting the pads, you know, to ten minutes,
five, then five minutes. Weokay, I got a nice sweat for
after a couple of three rounds,you know, about ten minutes on the
pads to put my robe and yougo out. So that's how we did
it. I didn't realize. Youknow, I've seen a pacing back and
forth. That's not that's calm.A lot of guys pacing back and forth.
You know, I don't know itwas that early. If he was

(28:42):
up an hour before the five.If that's the case, that was stupid
on all accounts. You rest yourbut you rest your legs and lungs,
and that's what Griff said. You'llput your legs up, rest your legs
long as you can. And thenabout half fire before we were supposed to
go out is when I get getup. I'd already be dressed, and
then I'd get up and start stretching, shaken out and then doing like shadow
boxing, and then hit the pads. You know, I mean, yeah,

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how much does the fight before youhave to do in the timing of
when your fight begins, you knowwhat I mean? Because that guy that
was a knockout didn't go the distance. So does everything get moved up?
Then? Or how does not Usuallyfor the main event, they have a
time frame. Didn't want you addit maybe between eleven you know on the

(29:25):
East coast, Church didn't watch betweeneleven forty and twelve o'clock, so if
it yeah, so I had actuallyreported Mike on I put this on Twitter.
On Saturday morning. I talked toTodd de buff, the president of
Top Rank, and I said whenhis fury going to make his ring walk?
And he said his ring walk willstart no earlier than eleven fifteen Eastern
and no later than twelve ten Eastern. So he had a basically a fifty

(29:48):
five minute window. So no matterwhat happened on the undercard, if everything
was her first round knockout, theywere going to hold until eleven fifteen easter.
If everything went the distance, thenit would it could go is latest
twelve you know, twelve twenties.So that was the window that both fighters,
Fiante and Tyson knew that they hadto face. So it is a
little dependent on the fights before you, especially the one right before you right

(30:12):
well, because they had time,you know, even if that had gone
the distance, then there would havebeen about you know, twenty minutes or
so, maybe twenty minutes to halfand out. If that fight had gone
the distance the Washington Martin side,if that had gone the distance, they
would had about twenty minutes to ahalf an hour before they walked, so
that there was going to be timeno matter what happened in that fight.

(30:32):
Were you, I don't know whereyou sat, Kevin for the fight,
but were you able to see Furylicking the blood off Wilder? Would you
were able to see that from rI did not see that until after the
fight. That was on the otherside of the ring from us, So
we were in the press section onthe office side of the promoters, but
so that that happened right in thecorner over by where the promoters were,

(30:53):
and I saw them in the corner, but I could not tell that's what
was going on. You know,Fury was leaning and put weight on wild
Or a lot. There was anotherthing that I thought it was a really
smart move on hit party. Youknow, he was two seventy three and
he made wild Or carry that weightright. It was it was yeah,
that that I thought was a bigthing, But I didn't not see the
blood come off. It's fun,he said that, Kevin, Because I

(31:14):
said the same thing I said.The fact that Deonte was bending down and
and and and uh Fury just laidon top of him. That takes his
toll on you man. You know, don't lay don't bend over like that.
When a guy comes in to tieyou up, get you know,
tie him up, clutch his runand hold him to the refree gets there.
He did over or as long asyou got one hand free, keep
whacking. Keep but because they sayyou don't protections. But if you've got

(31:37):
one hand free, keep punching.She don't. But he was bent over
a lot. It was only likethe back of his head almost right.
He looked right again. He lookedso amateurish. I just I just just
look everything. We had a guyon, like I said, a friend
of mine was on on last week. It was Ed O'Neill for Modern Family.
By the way, Okay, canwe say it? Yes, you
can't. He's the one that don'tget shit. I'm was gonna say anyway,

(32:00):
because he's always said he looks likea giraffe. Every time he could
say he looks like a half fromPittsburgh and from Youngstown. He's at home.
If I'm here, he's right upthe street from you ed he's from
Youngstown. He's on North signing fromthe south side. Yeah, so Eddie
always says, for Aymon, helooked like a giraffe. He was never
sold on you know what. Hewas never sold on Wilder. He never
cared for what he thought. Thefirst guy who stands up because they able

(32:22):
to take his punch is gonna takehim out. He'll take his heart away.
And I said, well, youknow, now I got to know
Deonte. He's a lot of hard. He's got a skill level. I
thought. I thought that, youknow, Steve Kim says the best you
know he's got. You know,he's got that that the racer. He
calls it the racer. I thought, well, that's a good way of
putting it. You know, he'slike a heavyweight, like a long ball

(32:44):
hitter in baseball, right, thenumber four hitter. Everything's power, everything's
power. But even if he misses, you know, I don't get a
home run. He could take thelong ball make you know, gets,
you know, make other things happen. So deontees with that big punch.
But I don't don't understand how comeyou don't set up but a job which
is obvious thing, set up withthe job, blind up with the jab
to come in. But you don'tdo that anymore. You don't even do

(33:05):
that. Yeah, no, Imean that was appalling. And I think
you know Deante, when he throwshis job and he commits to it,
he has a good job. Yeahhe does. Really, that's something that
I was expecting him because when heknew Fury is gonna move forward, you
gotta say the job is gonna besomething he's got. What Fury comes forward,
you gotta pop in with that joband make him think twice about getting
in your counting range. Yeah,that's the first thing they teach you.

(33:29):
You Plus, he's a tall guy, six seven, you know, furies
five nine, six nine. I'msorry, but I'm saying this when you
got it. So the first timethey fought each other, you know,
both guys are gonna fighting guys thatare close to their size. Usually you're
not usually are punching down on guys. So even even other guys Deianta,
they never used a jeb as aconstant weapon. When you know, even
last time we knocked out Ortiz,you know, he was setting it up.

(33:51):
He stuck it out, stuck hewas setting it up. He was
setting it up for the right hand, but it was more like a range
finder instead of a weapon, youknow, like the Jeb building points with
it. You know, pop pop, you know pop, you know f
one two, you know, throwingone two triple. Jeff, you don't
do anything. He just sticks outas the range finder for the right hand.
But when the lance he did hisjob. But this time, man,

(34:12):
he had no he'd even use it. He didn't even use it at
all. Oh my god. No. Yeah, it's exhausting, man.
And if you're a trainer, ifyou're a trainer, that's what I'm saying.
No matter Mark Breland, who didhim a favor, because Kevin,
the last thing I'll say, Kevin, you know as well as I do.
Will you go straight back into thecorner and rope You know you're looking

(34:32):
for the referee to stop it.You know that everybody knows that when they
tell you, guys, you gottashow me something, show me something,
and you back straight into the corner. You're looking for the refree to stop.
I'm saying qu not did he quit, but he's looking for he was
looking for a way out corner.The right thing. Yeah, Mark bring
do the right thing. Of coursehe did. It's stupid. It's stupid

(34:52):
for anybody say he didn't. Doyou agree, keV, No, I
don't think Again, I don't thinkhe quit. But I also understand what
you're saying, and I think thatthat's a body language thing that referees in
turpet And you go and hey,look, even if you're not looking at
quit, you get in that cornerand you're taking a beating. The referee
knows you've taken a beating for allthis time. Now you get in the

(35:14):
corner and he's on his front foot, he's ready to step in there because
you're giving him a reason to say, hey, you know what, maybe
this guy's out enough. So younever want to give the referee a reason
to think you're done. You wantto make the referee hey, I'm fine,
I'm fine. I'm just looking formy shot. I'm looking for my
thing. Remember the ortissite. That'skind of what you the impression you want
to leave on the referee, nothey, I'm in trouble and I'm backing

(35:36):
the way to, you know,kind of protect myself. No, I
don't. I don't think you quit. I don't think you quit. What
I dude, think is when hewent back going, you're looking for the
referee to stop it. Not thathe quit. I just think he knew
it was over, man, andyou know what, I'm gonna go out
like a man, you know whenit's an honorable thing to have referenced.
I don't think he quit. Ijust think he was overwhelmed. I think
he kind of knew he couldn't doanything more than what he was doing,

(35:57):
and it's an honorable way out,as most people do. You know that
he didn't quit though. It wasstill going to be as long as he
had to be. But for themto say that Mark Briland did the wrong
thing, Mark, no, no, no, he did him a favorite
God Breedlan saved him. You did? Could the crowd there? Did you
guys know because I didn't catch itthe first time that the corner stopped it
and not the ref. Could youguys tell from where you were in the
ring? Yeah, we saw thetal come in from our angle. Briland

(36:22):
was across the ring into the rightfrom us, so we saw the talcom
in the ring and the interesting youthink Kenny Bayliss stopped the fight and Beyontay
right away said what are you stoppingit for? I blocked that punch and
Kenny Pointer said, look at thetowel. And Deontay turned around and he
saw the towel and he went rightover to Mark. Yeah did they did?
Do you think they did the rightthing? I do? You know?

(36:42):
And I wrote a call him onYah who Sports on Sunday after the
fight, and I I said,Mark Breeland is a hero because he saved
Deontay from, you know, abad situation. He wasn't going to win
the fight. He was in asituation where he could have gotten hurt.
And Ireland went in there in Freelandsaid, hey, look we're we're in
good shape. No, he wouldhave got hurt because he was taken some
big punches. Look, I thoughthis jaw was broken, but obviously that's

(37:07):
not the case. But it lookedlike it was all swollen, you know,
right up around near the ear.Uh. I thought he had a
perforated ear drum. But by allthat count you said, he doesn't have
it. Correct, He didn't havea perforated or drum. No he did
not. So he had no brokenjaw, no broken ear, ear drum.
Cell he was flying, but justa blood and so he got cut

(37:28):
in the ear because that blood washe had a little bit of a cut
in the ear, Yeah, becausebecause it was bleeding pretty good, it
was being pretty good. Yeah itwas. It was a two centimeter cut
in his ear. But but butyou just said his equilibrium was all messed
up. Yeah, what was thescuttle on press row or where you go
with the reporters in between rounds whenhe was just falling all over the place
and he just couldn't catch his balance. Yeah, we were shocked. I

(37:51):
mean we're watching it. We're shocked. What is happening here? I can't
believe this. I mean it wasnothing that I had ever seen before,
or especially from him, right,Uh, Kevin, I So let's let's
move forward. Is Fury is hejust going to if it's a smaller appointment
opponent, just maul them or ishe gonna do you see him just being

(38:13):
Is there any challenge for this guywhatsoever? Because that guy was supposed to
be the best. I mean that'swhy we hyped his fight. Then.
He was supposed to be the best, and he just dominated it. Well,
he's good. Obviously they're gonna havea rematch, so we'll see how
that rematch goes, and if weare so Fury wins, Fury wins the
rematch, then they're gonna go toan Anthony Joshua fight. Um, so

(38:34):
that is going to be uh whatI think will be his two next fights.
You know, he'll fight Wilder probablyin October and then come back and
say Joshua after that. But whywould we believe Wilder Wilder has any chance
at all after he got dominated theYeah, they had to create rematch clause.
I thought Wilder should have just turneddown the rematch clause and said,
you know what, I want totake six months off. Then I want

(38:55):
to work on my game and thenmaybe I'll get a rematch next year.
But he exercised the rematch squause,which they were contractually obligated to give him.
So that's why they're gonna do it. Yeah, but I still think
that Bob and Shelley will talk.And I think Bob I said, let
Walder, I mean Fury and Joshuafirst, and let Walter get the winner.
I think that I think Bob's gonnatalk to if even if any Joshua,

(39:17):
I think you will give a Bobwill talk Shelley to take us some
step aside money to let him doone optional defense. You know what I
mean? Over there? Right?Yeah? An yeah, Kevin, I
can't think enough man. I meanyour insight is is always right on.
Um. I just I just wantedto hear it from somebody who was there.
And as we talked about the atmosphereis electric. Atmosphere is electric,

(39:42):
you said, And I think theheavyweights are back, heavyweight divisions back in
a big way, you know.For so I hope we see Jonte come
back and perform at a high level. And I hope Tyson goes on to,
you know, continue to be bea star because he made himself a
barb. Oh he did, hedid. I mean he's a character.
Man. He starts singing after Imean, you got it married, you

(40:04):
got He's a character and he's apersonality. And what's the one thing boxing
has lacked over the last several yearshis personalities. Yes, people always said,
what's wrong boxing? I said,we lacked personalities. That's what's wrong.
We got a lot of good fighters, but not a very few personalities.
Day what it takes the promoter andif I had a criticism, that's
what it is. At least twoguys went out and didn't so they know

(40:28):
what it takes. The other guysin the sport don't always know that.
Yeah, I mean I talked toa lot of these young guys when I
do in commentary with some of theseyoung guys from the PBC, and and
and I listened to him talking,I'm thinking, Man, they got no
clue. They got no clue,you know. And you know, I
just don't understand that. You know, the guy fights. They need eight
weeks to ten weeks to train.I said, what they get ready for

(40:49):
a fighter marathon? I got ready. Six weeks was perfect for me.
But I'm not just saying. Imean Marvin wasn't Walt a lot more.
I think Marvin was about six toseven weeks. Tommy and Ray were about
the same. And we want fifteenrounds. Don't get ready they call they
see ten to twelve weeks to getready for what a twelve rounder? I
don't get it. I don't getit. I don't understand it. Anya.

(41:12):
Anyhow, Kevin, thank you somuch to God. I hope don
Rod will have you on again ifyou'll be if you allow us to,
because you're wonderful, and name anyproblem I would love it, brother,
I appreciate it. Thank you somuch. Pittsburgh, Zonne, Pittsburg,
Zonne. If you ever come,if you ever come back this way,
let us know. And you canstill detect the Pittsburgh accent. It's still
in there, so it's you stillgot it, buddy. And I want

(41:34):
to get some spaghetti. Oh yeah, we have the best, we have.
Love it, Kevin. I willbe our guys. I'm gonna give
you the ten cent tour. Youcome next. Thank you again, Thank
you, take care of you.Well, that's that's that's a guy.
My man. You're gonna get toomany bigger names than for a boxing writer.

(41:58):
Knows again, Kevin and I alwaysbeen around. I didn't realize.
I thought he was still right forboth. I knew he was rooting for
Yahoo. I didn't realize you're strictlyfor you and that, you know,
in two thousand and seven, speakingfrom a journalism standpoint, that was a
leap like Internet, nobody knew exactlywell and it seemed fake. You know
the term fake news. When you'reworking with the Associated Press and doing all

(42:19):
that stuff in a newspaper and thenyou go to like an Internet, there
are a million fake internet websites too, so that's really a leap to see
that. Yeah, I think,I mean he would probably talk on it
differently, but in my opinion,I mean that shows how good the guy
is and he's been there for eversince. I mean, like I said,
one of the top boxing writer Zoo'sat to him, Dan Raphael and

(42:39):
Steve Kim probably the top three.I mean, I'm sure there's other guy's
inner two, but I mean thoseare the top three I know. So
does can anyone beat this theory?Yeah? Is every five a little bit
different? I think he's very beautiful. I mean, neither one really box,
you know what I mean? Anddude, I don't know if they
have to. I think he's beautiful. And I'll tell what made pretty problems
that his success he won. Iknow, arab domindar Man, you're gonna

(43:01):
go over, you get and thenyou celebrate for a week to get your
ask to the gym. That's whenthey involved, get your aspect to the
gym. I know, because guyslike him, A lot of guys,
you know, like any ruis thing, Why wouldn't you get All you need
is a week to relax, don'tyou ain't going to fall on training shadow
box with the brown jump broke buteasy. It's like five or six rounds,

(43:22):
that's it. It's just to breaka sweat, you know, do
broke will maybe a mile walk himout and run him out. Well,
he shows us how quickly he canget away from Yeah, man, you
know, if you don't but TysonFury man, forget about. He might
be the king, you know,I mean literally make him a king over
there. They're gonna make him alord or something though. Night him over
there, don't night him, andI'll be surprised they do him. They

(43:45):
might night him. Um, it'sjust incredible. The fight was hell of
an invent Because I wasn't third thistime. Um, I felt bad.
I wish I was. You know, we it was a co production,
but because it was Fox and ESPNtogether, they took only certain people from
FO sure people from ESPN. Andobviously I'm living in youngst The guys that
were working were right there. Youguys, you know, Sean lewis in

(44:06):
Vegas, lives in Vegas, Kateand everybody else is over in LA.
It's an hour jump, so youknow, yeah, they're talented. Very
great job. I enjoyed the GeorgeCartastrian, I'm not I know, I
enjoyed. I just I would sureI would have been part of it.
I would love them in part ofit. But next one we'll be I
mean, uh anyhow, but yeah, that was a helpful fight. If

(44:30):
anybody just to see I don't knowif see he used to be if it
was paid for view. They showedagain, and they showed again, you
know, an HPO or whatever.I don't know. So they got to
I mean ESPN, I'm sure willESPN will and I'm sure Fox will.
Yeah, they got to. Didshowed it on regular TV. Probably probably
make it a couple of weeks,probably give you a two week window.

(44:50):
Maybe we couldn't hear I was ata bar. We couldn't hear the announcers.
And I think we have the essOkay, yeah, I know sometimes
but you know you can for someyou want to hear me. But we
we couldn't see on the feed thetowel come in, and I didn't you
know and all that stuff that hestopped it because he was taking ask for
him. That's what I thought.I just tried to as they stopped.
I didn't know that Mark threw inthe towel, and I would like to

(45:15):
hear it again and actually hear whatthe guys are are saying, especially in
between rounds. Did anyone think,well Wilder won any rounds? I thought
maybe he won one and then liketwo or three, like round two,
round three in there? Anybody,I don't. I don't think he did
when kind of officially semi officially won. But you didn't have win in any
rounds. I didn't. I didn't, That's what I'm saying. That's why

(45:37):
to me, it wasn't a itwasn't a good fight because one guy fought
and the other guy didn't. Oneguy fired, just didn't fight well.
I mean, that wasn't like hewas was too he was trying, he
was. No, I'm not sayingthat he just slept. But that's it.
And this for a lot of peoplelike me, this is the first
time to eat see either one ofthem really in action, because most of

(45:58):
us missed the first night. Thatso fantastic, So you know, you
build it up so much in yourmind and then it's like watching you know,
Golden State went by forty points.You know the other team's trying,
but Golden States just better that day, and that's how it goes that.
I don't know, that's kind ofhow I feel. So but I see
what you're saying. The event itself, it's exactly right, and it live

(46:20):
up to I think people paid andyou know they saw an upset. That's
what you know. It's an episode, it's suspective. You know, it's
worth the price. Um, andpeople be talking about it for a long
time. And everything he said,he do, he did. Oh so
I can only imagine for the nextfight, who whoever he fights, if
they did a rematch, Oh mygod, I can press conference for that
one. Oh my god. Right, But anyhay, Um, you want

(46:44):
to talk about your speaker coming up? Yes, speaker series. I've talked
about it before. And then wetalk about the winery a little bit.
Yes, ladies and gentlemen, ifagain i've talked about before. On March
eighteenth of this year, down atyour Center downtown Youngstown, we have the
first of hopefully many events of we'regonna do my speaker series. So we're

(47:04):
doing a speaker series bringing people fromyou know, like I said, outside
the box, Um, that areyou know what I was doing? But
apologize been watching I'm looking down.I see the apple. I'm looking at
the apple, thinking that's the thing, instead of looking at the camera.
It was looking Why is he lookingdown? Why is he looking at I'm
not looking. Oh god, Iwas mesimetized by the apple. I was

(47:29):
looking at the apple. Apple,gentleman, way, way, way too
many fights, too many fights.Good thing is just for It's a joke.
It's a yoke. It's a yokebecause you know. But I'm sure
you get asked that a lot.I used to tell us a lot.
My father used to say, waitingfor diss, I had over one hundred

(47:49):
fights. What's your excuse? Peoplelaugh? I say, I had over
seventy fights? What's your shoes?Smole? I understand. I go it's
it's a joke, it's it's justa joke. Oh god. Anyhow,
and I'm gonna I'm looking at thatand people, so why is he looking
that? That was why I wasmessed. I got it distracted by the
apple on his computer and I'm lookinglike that's the that's that's like, that's

(48:15):
the camera. See ayah, it'sjust a tough day, tough day,
tough tired time. Uh yeah,my pants are too tight. My pants.
I walked in my pants to daycut off the oxygen to my brain.
It's not your fault, I caughtmyself. Oh my god, jeans.

(48:37):
No, I didn't want today,not today, this wintertime winter.
I'm gonna go with. I likethe bootbell bot, I like the boom
cut on the wintertime, summertime.I do that. Yeah, so anyhow,
but um um so, Michael's coming. So Michael Friends says, right,

(48:59):
I've where I was going. Thankyou had none. Michael Friends says
A who was a former youngest organizedcrime boss in history. He was twenty
four years old. He was acrime boss for a Clumbo crime family,
one of the top five families,and he made more money for any single
family other than al Capone. Andin nineteen eighty six he was recognized he

(49:22):
was number fifteen on the top moneymaking crime bosses of all time. And
since then it's gone way up.Like I said, he and he went
away, got jammed up, wentaway, and then got out. After
eight years, he got out,and he while I was in jail,

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he read. He found the Bibleand started reading the Bible and became a
fighter for Christ, became a borna grand Christian, and now when he
walks out, he he speaks allover the country, all over the world
about his faith is Christianity, hisconversion. But he also talks about,
you know what it was to beraised his father's Sonny, you be talking

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about his firstday. Oldest organized crimeboss in history, one hundred three years
old, died yesterday. No kiddied yesterday. One hundred and three years
old, oldest crime at home living. He was in a nursing home.
He wasn't in jail. He wasin a nursing home up state in New
York. He was He got outof jail one hundred and one years old.
They put him back. They puthim he got out of ninety eight

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to put him back in and hegot one hundred and one. Something went
wrong, one hundred one. Itwas one hundred and three years old.
He's oldest organized crime figure ever.He just passed away yesterday. So I'm
very sorry. Different And I tested. I tested Michael, and he said
already had a good life, youknow. And you know, I don't
think Michael man, I'm an interestingwhen I say something. He said to

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me an interesting yesterday, and Idon't think he mind if I if I
was that about his dad? Yeah, And I said, oh, Mom,
I said um. He said um. I said, you know condolencend
about I said, Ray, thankyou, Ray, most appreciated. You
know, he was so much ofa It was so much a part of

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the person I am today. Hesaid, he's so much a part of
the person I am today, goodor bad. He said he was a
good father. Life is tough,uh tough loss. But I thought that
was interesting when he said he wasso much a part of that person I
am. Because Michael was a Michaelbecame a boss at twenty four because of

(51:35):
his brain. Michael was an immensementality. You know, he's the i
Q was off to charge Michael sixtyeight years old. Okay, but Michael
but is um was adopted. Hismother married. Michael was less than anybody
a year old, and Sonny adoptedhim. And Michael talks about you know
it, doesn't talk about it thoughhe knows who he has. But he

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talked. But he said he lookedat sunny as far because his father raised
him, he took adopted them andraised him, and he took the friends.
The friend says his name, Well, then what's nice about this?
When he when he did anything.You can ask any question you want right
at the Yes, you opened upthe question. And Michaels isn't very forward
open forthcoming. Yes, it's veryforthcoming answers and he opened But as he

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says, but he talks about tosit down with John Gotti, which is
always one of the great stories I'veever heard. UH. And you say,
you know, he talks about talkabout life and them up and love
what it was, and then havingall the cruciments, the planes, the
boats, you know, the carsand homes and all. And he talks
about when he gets stripped from you, when you go into jail and they
take you every day, it meansnothing when they take your stripped down and

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your jail. And he found hisBible and he started reading about UH.
And Michaels, it's just amazing.I've been I've never heard him before.
And if you haven't heard of believeme. I've teld people it's entertaining because
he talks about the mob. Ittells you entertaining. It's it's it's so
interesting, it's so it's it's justit's just it's you know, you can't

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believe that, you know, thesestorders are true. But more than anything,
it's life altering. It's life altering. You hear his message and you
can't be help but be affected byhis faith. His faith is so strong,
and he says he it's just thathe did what he said you couldn't
do. He walked away from themop. He said, you can't.

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He blut him. He walked away, and he said, by no all
accounts, I shouldn't be alive.By all accounts, I shouldn't be.
But I am only for one becauseof my Lord Jesus Christ. And he
said, I he's the greatest guard, bodyguard I have, but only godguard
I have in need. It's justamazing, man, it's the only It's
just so. If you get Marcheighteenth down to do your called the do

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your desk. I have no tickets. Nobody has tickets. They handle all
the tickets. So it's the FordRecital. Do your that the door center
downtown, youngs Tom. There's nobad seats, but there are limited seats.
You gotta get your seats. Yourseat please, yes, and when
you guys, if you want,we have a VIP package. You know,
sixty dollars. It's sixty dollars aperson one hundred dollars a couple,

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and that the VIP package is ameeting greet with Michael before the show,
you could picture, taken food,and then afterwards you'll sign books a book
signing. If you want to buyhis biography, you could do that.
Uh, if you just want tocome just to hear them talking, you
don't care about the food, youdon't care about meeting a person, then
there's just twenty five dollars at thedoor. But if you're gonna pay twenty

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five, well, when you justa little bit more money, you get
the food and you get to eat, meet them and you get to you
know, it's it's just to me, it's a better, it's better any
good value. So called the FordRecital, the your set in downtown Young
Shount ticket office for tickets. Theyhandled everything so again May March eighteenth.

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March eight they cupped a couple ofweeks. And if you're just gonna be
the sponsor Ford, we are ticketsponsorships and for that it gives you,
it depends. We have whole packages, have packages, uh sponsorships and uh,
you get tickets, you you know, tickets for you know, several
several tickets for many people calls willtell you about the packages. Uh call
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have an advertisement there, or callmy the foundation number. Our foundation number
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you interst sponsorship or anything else abouttickets, please call. Okay, that's

(55:38):
it, that's it. Don't welove this winery? I do. Look
they put they have twelve different kindsof wines here and you tasted them last
week that it was pretty good.Merlaut was excellent. Yeah, and the
Multipucciano we tried that, and uhthe charburn I just want to think,
uh char and ben charbine, ohright, that we just thought they've throw

(56:00):
a little French flavor to it.But my kid, we just throw the
bank out there. I sharpen Ray, Chevin Ray. Just if you just
go out and put a little Rin there. Nobody even nood No.

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And they work in conjunction with theRobins Theater. So there's war. I'm
here first, full full menu,full kitchen. I told my wife said,
we gotta you gys, tell mywife, but we're gonna come come
to the Robins theaters. They show, but the best thing is come and
get dinner first. They shuttle youover, don't let a drive, and
they shuttle you back after the show. And then you can after dinner,
drinks, after show drink or afteryou know, before dinner and drinks afterwards,

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come out late night apportif and uhgoing on that it's it's the best
deal in time. I'm telling you, charban a uh winery here in downtown
Warren. I wish we had onein downtown youngstime, right, but we
don't. But soon and during conjunctionas makes up with the Robins teeter and
upcoming events, but they got comingup. Let's see Animaniacs is the twenty

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second this weekend. Wish you werehere. That's the Pink Floyd Chriby band
is Saturday the twenty ninth, andthen Blue Oyster Colt comes in time.
So I was like, boost on, what are you giving up for Lent
tomorrow? Speaking to you again everyyear tomorrow as Lent fair for those and
for those and you know, forthose Christians and Catholics and Christians and who

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give up. Look, you know, the whole day has changed through the
years. Even when I was growingup, you could eat or drink anything
fast fast, total food, totalobsts. But they find out that,
you know, it's not healthy,not drinking water, it's not food,
having a little bit of brain food. So so now the church has changed
that one full meal, which meansyou could have something in the morning.

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I have toasted the morning coffee,and then I'll have a bowl soup in
afternoon and maybe like a salad atnight. So it's like one full meal.
Yeah, but it's not spread out, spread out. One time,
when I was on the news acouple of years back, I mentioned ash
Wednesday. They put the ashes onyour forehead, and I said, I
wish, I wish there was away they could put the ashes somewhere else.

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I mean, does it have tobe on my face? The ashes?
If they could put them on,I'm all for the ashes. Put
them on my hand, put themon my I don't care anywhere else,
please, because you can't take themoff. You're not supposed to wash them
off. You gotta leap on allday long, and there's dirt on your
face all day long. Holy dirt, you know, so I thought,
well, you know, could theyjust put it somewhere else? The mon

(58:36):
senior called the station and demanded anapology, and I got in pretty big
trouble for mentioning that on the news. Yes, but I still feel that
way. Can't they just put itsomewhere else? I'm gonna get now,
we're gonna get another car from schoolfall twelve years. We'll sure we all.
I used to get the Well,you know, people in LA would
say right, because they don't know. It's so anyhow, don't it.

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Don't do what I do? So, so give your thoughts. Give you
when they say give up another thingis too fast? Absence means oh,
when they say fast absence, fastingfrom abstinence, you know what that means,
don't you? John, thank you? He's on abstinence right now.
Abstinence are you? No? Noplaying what your mate? No, No

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pleasures of the flash, None ofthat's exactly great. Abstain from pleasures.
Just tomorrow, just tomorrow, andgood Friday and most Sundays. No.
But but people say it's crap.I stick to that pretty pretty good.
I'd tried to wow and I didpretty good. No, abstain from sexual

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relations tomorrow. Please, if you'reif you're, if you believe in your
faith, in your tight with yourfaith, that's what that fast, that's
what we do. We give uppleasures of the body, food and all
other types of pleasures to the body. So I didn't I didn't know that.
I wish I didn't know that.Yeah, I don't even listen to
music tomorrow. I don't. Idon't. I could see a good Friday,

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but tomorrow I'll leave it off.What do you do all day?
Well, I think you don't readget into my own thoughts. Yeah,
but zoomba, Oh that's music.You can't can't do that. So yeah,
but if you are a Catholic,Christian or a Christian period makes me
feel so bad about is whole.Ash Wednesday, Go to make sure you

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get the church. If you forgotit was gonna be ash Wednesday call the
final time as master clocal church andif you cut the bulletin and should be
in there right. And I havethe mon Senior's number now, so you
know, ask me. I'll giveyou guys, give him a call.
School. I got in trouble youwith the stations, they said, and
we're not going to make you apologizebecause we think you were kidding around.
And I said it really wasn't andshe said, well, I'm not going

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to make you apologize. And Italked to them on senior and I don't
think they like me anymore. AndI think the bishop. Did you tell
him I'm not going to apologize?I would have. They would have made
me. But but you didn't know. I didn't, So would you tell
him say I'm not gonnapla. Ididn't talk to them signor himself. He
went over my head and talked tomy boss, the director. But did
you say I wasn't really I wasn'tjoke at you. But no, that's

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idea. I was just gonna dropit. At the time, I just
wanted to drop. I felt reallydead. You get to cross the head,
that's don't I know again it's onmy face. Yeah, there are
millions and we do it the forehead, lips in heart, right, clush
your lip that dirt an Yeah,I put it on my heart. I

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would that would be better. Sotomorrow's ash Wednesday for Catholic Christians to to
observe an Yeah. Um. Otherthan that, we'll be back next Tuesday.
You want to. I don't know, but the lightning may hit me
as I walk out of here.You have to, Yeah, unless you
gave me up for lent. Ifyou really are that's fine. Yes,
uh well, ladies on the nextTuesday, will be on again. I'm

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trying, isn't it Tuesday? Ishould be in. We're in the March.
We'll be in the March next week. Yes, March Foist was the
first on Sunday. Oh, yes, yes it is. We could.
Do you want Dalton? Do youwant him back? Will he come in?
Okay, we'll get Dalton rosta MMAh rising star? Uh maybe the

(01:02:24):
future superste training for something? Orcould you have a little bit of wine
outre You gonna sip of the grapes? Don't you think I'll get it?
You ain't training out for the fight. That's the point. He ain't going
for two months. You work out, but you don't get any training for
the fight. It stays in shape, that's what you do. It's maintenance

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and two x amount of time.You know the perfect time. Every fighter
knows when you peek at the righttime. So all but it's a science,
folks. You gotta know when youpeak your body peaks. It's like
sharpening the knife. You keep sharpeningthe knife, you're gonna dull the knife.
You want to get the finest point. And that's when you know when
you're sharing, that's that's when youpeak. That's the body. So six
weeks was perfect for me. Andwhen I went seven is when I lost

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my top with the branbo And whydid you go seven? I said,
I wanted it. Next week.I wanted because I tramped and I wanted
to go. We went out toLake Tahoe and my trainer said, Ray,
we've written no no Griffin. Soyou know traders will tell you they
don't want to miss a fight orpsyche. So she allowed me to do
it to you. I peaked sixweeks. That peaked peaked at the right

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time. Except the week I wentinto that, I was like, what
noodle, nothing and I got beaten. I gotta be good. It's just
because of one extra week. Yes, your body, if you're training,
you got It's it's a science.Mike buddy peaks like you keep sharpening,
knife, keep sharpening. What happens? That's exactly would you have one if
it was a six week I'm inyour opinion. I'm not gonna I like

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to think of it would have beenbetter. I would have been much better.
Okay, I would have been muchbetter. I was winning, go
after this, I was winning putit, I was winning after fourteen.
I was when I mean, Iwas winning going into the fourteenth when I
got stopped where you got so.But but I'm never gonna take away his
performance because he beat me and bebe good. So I just would be.
I would have been better, Iwould remember better. That's fair,

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