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Bo man. I I can't atthat that petrol can't get no better than
that. It was loud as aloud proud. It was like we were
at the fight there under the speaker, and I was getting hYP h good
night, you got hip. Iwas starting to get flashbacks. Oh good
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in the round of raised boo booroom. I'm your host, ray Man
Ciney. Here, my ace cornerMan cut man in my case, very
special guests today, very special guests. I'm gonna introduce him in a moment
um, but I'm gonna say we'reback here at Charbonnat's Winery here in Warren,
Ohio downtown. And uh, Iagain, I'm I just can't say
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I'm much. I'm impressed by didn'tsay I think so? Uh Look,
what's the name of the place inVegas? You think of the gardens Tiffany
Tivy tip tip still around or no, no, no. I was as
the eighty human naighties, Mike,don't you Yeah, grew up in the
in the eighties, eighties, guy, Yeah, born in the sixties.
Yeah, sorry sight sixties right,really like with about a month ago.
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Yeah, yeah, this is agreat joy. It very nice. But
man, I got in my phone. Here the boys are text in a
way. No, no, Ican't do that. But we're here with
very special guys, and man,now you gotta tell me your record,
Dalton, because I'm gonna sit upvery special remember climp on the climb,
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Now you're gonna You don't win atell yet or you wouldn't have won a
version of the title. No,I haven't on the climb. You're on
the climb. Okay, on theclimb contender top contender of middleweight. Well
I have like heavyweight. I justgot news that I'm moving down the midway
from the next time. Well,he just got news from somebody's telling guess
what, you're moving down. You'removing down if you want to, not
just because you actually want to feelbetter at been away. Yeah, I
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said it was I was. Iwas pushing for it, but finally it
seems like they're gonna allow me.So Dalton Rosta, who's here our special
guests? We've had him on before. Don't do you have a nickname like
in the ring Hercules? Hercules?No, not like rock and Rosa.
What you say roster Rosa Rosta?Okay, my Rosta Rostamon. Yeah,
Rostamon Rostamon. Yeah, Dalton Roster, Rocking Roster. How about that,
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Dalton Rock and ro I rocked thisship out of you, man, and
I thought he wasn't around to giveme my nickname. I know you had
had seven of them by the timethere would all ride, all of the
flow on the floor. Rocking Roster, Dalton Dangers, Dalton rock Dinger,
Dalton rosta. That's good rock,Dalton Rock and Rosters. You know you
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might have a new one before Ileave. You probably will. And let's
not forget Mike. We have aspecial guest watch this today is Are you
an intern and turn ship? Whatis this exactly? You're just bored to
high school? Internship? High school? You go Tomfield, she goes to
Clainfield. Oh yes, yeah,do you know that you've heard of that?
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Right? Okay, yeah, okay, okay, just she's a white
girl. What you would it beathing else? Let me let me explain.
Let me explain, Lucy, letme explain real fastlild Camfield. Calfield
is a suburb of Youngstown along withthere's Camfield board in Poland, Ohio.
Okay, three right, it's aswhite bright as you can get. Was
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that way from it? When Iwas going to school, you could there
was forgetting ethnicity. There's no people. Forget people of color, there's no
ethnicity. Then Poland, it wasn'tfarther be last there was people of ethnicity
because I went to schoolaw them.There were some of times there not a
lot of something. Now Clainfield,now we've infiltrated. They can't get rid
of us. We're like ants allover. But back in the day,
there was no ethnicity. I meanpeople of color. Forget ethnicity. But
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and then they found out the nineteentwenty eight there was a sect that the
clan found and who had a clubhousein Canfield. So Kilfield thus became Clainfield.
Yet that was like a hundred yearsago. Maybe you could let it
go. No, man, mypeople's were hurt. My peoples are interned
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Italian. Yeah, but yeah,what she had what we vifl traded it?
This, I said, we vifiltraded like ants. All my friends
that moved out there because it's abeautiful place to live, lovely, lovely
school spectaclary schools, great schools,great, great school system Sunders don't die.
But but you don't see any ofthe brothers going through they're still and
I have friends of mine going.Man, you know where you live?
Oh? Man, I live onthe you know Cornersbrook. Oh how are
you going? You get to gothrough Clintfield? All? Hell? No,
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man, we get still. Sothat don't make I mean, it's
true, but you don't have thatproblem, don't do you ed? Thank
you for coming, Thank you forcoming. Hope you learned some today she's
learning. I'm learning not to comeback already learnt by five words that she's
said. I And I'm learning thatthis guy is making me not want to
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come back. And um so Daltonfighting? Man, what is your record
now? Okay, okay, bro? The first time we had you on
what what month did we have meon? Do you remember it was?
I believe February? It was beforethe second fight, right, it was
before my debut, before the debutssigned with Bellator, like a couple of
weeks before that. So I've hadtwo fights, my third ones coming up
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May nine, May nine, beautiful, beautiful. Now before we get to
do I want to say being becausewe are all brethren in the martial arts,
because it's all marshal boxes considered martialart. And when you say we
are you including me. Well,if Piet was a considered a contact sport,
I would be a black belt.But but so I want to talk
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to anybody who's contact sport, anybodywho's had any physicality. You see the
fight, but Fury Wilder, Yes, okay, what did you think?
You enjoy the fight? Yeah?I enjoyed it. Um. I mean
I'm not a fan of Wilder.Uh, not really a Fury fan either,
but I dislike Wilder more than Ido Fury. So I was I
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was glad to see that. Reasonbeing is because because I'm a martial artist,
and because I have to work sohard to get to where I'm at
and really focus on the fine detailsof everything. I don't appreciate the fact
that he can get away with somuch stuff just because he has that power,
size and the power I appreciate,like the technique and the hard work
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that goes into boxing and the actualaesthetic of watching boxing. So I don't
I don't really like watching him box. I mean, he has power.
A lot of fans like to seebrutal knockouts, and I mean, why
not. But at the same time, like he's been boxing for how long
fifteen years? Like he could havelearned how to box along the way instead
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of just throwing a jab and thenthrowing a telegraph too. That's landing because
he has an eighty four inch reach. But if you could do it,
yeah, you know what I mean. I mean, as you get knocked
at, as I said, youstick with what has gotten you there.
That's seems to be his that's hisexpertise. Now, you know. Look,
I got to know Dante. Iwasn't a fan before him. I
gotta met you things I had heardthat until I met him. And he's
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really a wonderful guy. Really awonderful guy. I think you know,
but you don't know him does soas a fighter, I had to say
perspective until I met him, andI understand there's a method to the madness
with him, it really is.And he's a well, he's a great
athlete. He's well conditioned, obviouslybeing a fighter. He works his ass
off. So but you're right whenyou have the eraser and as was Steve
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Kimp formidable boxing writer calls his righthand the racer because it can change the
equation real quick. It does.And but to your to what you said,
I think he's depending on so muchwhen he couldn't find it. This
time he was kind of lost.Now a couple weeks so we had ed
o'neillon. Edie was saying, hewasn't impressed. So I'm not impressed with
this guy because when he has whenhe because he can't can knock you out
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the right hand, it's it.It's over for him. And I said,
well, no, I don't.I think you know he's a better
fighter than that, this and that, blah blah blah. But he showed
it. He didn't show it atall because you didn't have the jab,
which is a basic you know,if I can't find you, if I
find you, if if you don't, If you can't, you don't throw
the right unless you can hit theguy with the jab. If I can't
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touch you with the jab, butsure does they can touch you because he's
got to travel twice as far.And I'm simpthing with him, my man.
Guys, if if you can't,you know, they put the kick
out there. If you can't touchthe guy with the leg kick, well
you are you gonna shoot on himbecause you're leaving yourself exposed. So that
coming, you know, the jab, the kick is the same it's the
same. It's a finder, it'sa it's a reach fighter. How close?
How close? And Diante is somuch much better fighter than that.
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I just was I would say disappointedbecause I was disappointed. But I'm sure
he's a great dude. I Iknow what you're saying. But but as
a fighter, I'm talking about afighter. I just think that if I
don't think either one of them reallyhas ever had the box because they never
fight guys their size. No,you're right as a valid point, but
if you're going up a guy thatyou already boxed against, you you better
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come something different. And that's whatdisappointedent. And that's what Fury did do.
See I see I agree with Daltness. I love I love fight Now
my son sit pop here. Fortythought he was disappointed. A lot of
guys said, you said you weredisappointed, See that because of who wants
But see, I wasn't disappointed,not today. What because of the hype.
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We usually the hype is bigger thanthe fight, and the fight never
lives up to the hype. Inthis case, it actually did. Yeah,
it actually did. And the factthat it matters. We've we said
this before and I'm not I'm gonnareiterated, I'm not gonna beat it up.
But black and white, it's thenature of the beast in combat sports.
Black versus white always gonna sell Hispanicand white always gonna sell standing him
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black two Hispanic together, but twoblacks together doesn't sell. And these are
big and white two whites against eachother. That's a questionable no, no.
What about if it's like different countries, like if we're if we're doing
like Anthony Josh versus Wilder, thatsells, Yes, yes, yes,
because you're right, it's a differentcountry. And but but Fury and Wilder,
even though they in American will selltoo because because of the black and
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white. That's just the nature thepiece anyone wants to like now when we
know it, we know I needthat's that's I know that for being years
in television, being in the fightgame. That's just the nature the piece.
I'm sure. Look, I usedto walk into the gyms when I
lived in New York when my firstterm prother in New York. I used
to go in to all black gyms, and I go to all Hispanic gyms.
I walk in, they start foamingat the mouth. Oh, they
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thought white meat man nigga. Andmy trainer, who was black, he's
telling me, Ray, you're gonnahave to learn your respect here. Man,
he said, Man, don't goout there just you know, you
go out there. We ain't lookingfor war. We're looking at the learn
looking on sparring as a learning session. But if they jump on your man,
make them respect you. And ofcourse they kind of go out there
and make you, you know,make you look bad and trying to knock
you out from you jump and youstand the bank and the fight back and
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eventually you got the whole gym stopand come out sharing a guy like you're
it's a fight. You know,you gotta hold your owne. So once
you and I made my bones andthose type of gyms, you held my
own and be able to do that. But that's what I'm saying. It's
it's it's it's the nature of thepeace. I don't. I have no
problem with that. When people talkabout it used to be before it used
to be, you know, italways historically combat sports boxing in general,
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it's just down boxing. It's beenimported the sport and twenties was the Jews.
The thirties to Irish the forties wasthe times. Now it's the black
and Hispanic. Emma May is kindof reversed it a little bit because Emma
May actually started and other people inorder to started down in the beach town
of down and you know, uh, the beach towns down south of La
So it's basically as a white suburbanboy sport. It's not really an interesting
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it's not. It's starting to crossover now but not it hasn't not like
boxing obviously, but what you gotwith the Brazilians, you know, it's
the Brazilian brought it over here.Horry and Gracie bard here introduced it to
America, and it's one of theforms, one of the first, right
well, it was the first one. It was the first. Ye back
when it first started. UFC firststarted, you had like no weight classes,
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right and everybody had their own,like you had wrestlers versus gum,
wrestler versus kick kickboxing. Right well, actually did a commentary for one of
them fight and it was interesting,and that's when they made him fight more
than one time in the night,to fight multiple times. Now they don't
do that, which is the bestthings for the fighters. But I'm just
saying, um, the fight itself, the talk Wilder and Fury. I
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think Wilder's I know, I knowDeante's a better fighter than that. He
just didn't show it and for whateverreason. The thing I'm getting to is,
now, when you lose, youlose. When you win, you
win. My father's taught me,when you win, you win with humility.
When you lose, you lose withdignity. You know, you don't
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want to take away from the guywhether, however you lost, to say
now that my legs are dead becauseof the costume. Who's the dumb mass
of war? That The good newsfor you is there's a costume out there.
You can get really cheap about this. I just put it in.
I tell about putting the Robin trunks. I just about putting up with roban
trunks. How's that he had itmade? But here's the he had the
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road. Mate. You know weunderstand boxing is about more. It's becoming
more of the show about it isthat which you've said many times that's important,
of course, entertains of course,but don't saying this sell to sizzle,
not the steak. And you gottahave a good piece of steak.
That's the sizzle. We got it. But what did water? You come
in? But what did Fury do? He got he got carried in,
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he got carried at. But no, look, I have a lot of
respect for Dionte. I'm a fanof his, I really am, and
I know as a person he's agood brother man. It really is a
good guy. I just you lost. You lost, however you lost.
To come out and say it wasmy cost him, whether it's fact or
not, which I'm sure it isnot, it's not true. But they
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say he didn't try it on untilthe night before because I try my stuff
on. I used to have awoman make my stuff. I used to
go get fitted. Well, yeah, you know what we's not it's not
the costume that that's a ridiculous exuse. It's he finally, finally,
tyson Fury have to fight, andonce caught on, he got he got
knocked down, almost knocked out inthe first fight. Um, but it's
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it's like you said, whenever youfinally don't catch somebody with the right hand,
what's gonna happen? And it's easiersaid than done. But watching the
dude fight, he doesn't just usuallystick a jab out there. Usually every
time he comes forward with a jab, he's starting the right hand behind it
right, So if he's doing aneight out of ten times, you know
how to step out of range.It's easier said than done. He's athletic,
he has powerful right hand, hehas an eighty four inch reach,
so it's harder to actually do thanto say. But at the same time,
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like most of these guys that areprofessional boxers are on the same level
as him. Somebody has six footnine like Tyson Fury, who has to
reach the match him. If notbe better, then I mean, you're
gonna you're gonna have problems, especiallysince Fury can box. And if you
watched what Fury did do, thatwas you know he was taught, and
you know he didn't. I don'tthink I saw the first fight. What
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he did in this fight was hewas fainting a lot. It's feet,
especially faint coming forward to He wasn't. He wasn't he wasn't backing up like
he wasn't the first making thought whenhe was countering you. And that's I
think there's a lot to do withsugar Hill, who was many Stewards nephew.
So we learned, you know,you faint. You make guys get
a position. My faint stepped tothe side of faint. That's that's being
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sixteen as you said. And thenhe sticks out to the jab six out
the jab. You know, sofury I thought a terriffic fight. I
really did. Tired him out aswell. I mean, he put his
weight on him and whatever you're pressureon him walking him down. That stresses
you out. So yeah, soit starts to exhaust you. You start
getting ten. He laid at twoseventy two eight by by the time he's
supposed to ninety minute three hundred,laying it on your back. Of course,
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where's you that? But then hethrew a body shot. He dropped
an anybody getting you get hit right, you're gonna go at a body shot.
I ain't him about dropping a bodyshot because you know, you learned
you turned them dropped the elbow.You're doing to block it, you know,
I mean, but you can itin a blind spot, Mike,
You're gonna go like I could makeyou piss bliff for a month if I
hit you right, and he could. That's the side thing. That's just
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the sad thing. I don't know, I do I drink a lot of
water, so I would be pissinga lot of blood. So I don't
want it. Have you ever seenit? Anyway? Go down? Now?
That that body shot was more momentumthan anything. He didn't fall like
he he was off balance. Hewas square when he got hit with it,
and he was off balancing when hegot hit. He was falling backwards
already. But but would you rememberbut what Tyson Fir did do He leaned
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over, he got turned it.He didn't just throw it from out here.
He turned, stepped in turn thatboom, turn into and you're the
guy right, You're gonna go becausethere's there's the area. The kid living
kids in the area has no muscle, there's no protected that's why you just
you know you're taught by dropping theelbow, turn the body a little bit.
But he got caught right, SoI will never knock that out.
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I mean knock him for that,you get could anybody know? Anybody can
go at any time. I justan overall and I love the aunty man
as a person and brother. Ijust yeah, I like the same.
It's gonna come back. He's alreadyactivated the reach match clause. But just
some guys out there just are thebad matchup. Just you know, back
stayalus make fights, style, makefights. That's a bad matchup film no
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matter what. And I don't knowwhat could be different. In fact,
maybe you weren't headed because Fury,now he's got that conference build. But
you've got a champion. You becomea forty percent better fighter. And I
never said what I say, fortymaking onstead of fifty never and he just
said forty percent because your conference level, you gonna do anything them physically,
but your conference level. You know, I don't know. Um watching that.
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So now you're next you So now, as an MMA fighter, you
see him, I see guy MMAfights all the guys. Guy goes down,
he gets hit, he goes downand gets caught with it. Boom.
Look you saw the cowboy Serone andI'm a greater fighter. Fifteen seconds
you get hit. We know Saronecan fight, he's got a lot of
balls. We know the guy's gothurt, got caught. You're gonna say,
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you know, I mean, soI imagine saying that. You know,
as I know a lot of MMMAguys have talked to us. They
they're very adamant, they were theywere very angry that to say, because
he used that as an excuse,you know what I mean used what is
the excuse that the uniform way toMINTI yeah, a lot of mm gas.
I know friends of mine talk toman, you know, because he's
all the stuff they go through.They got used. He's agreeing. Yeah,
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I am agreeing with it, ButI mean it shouldn't be just having
may fighters just be boshers. Theywere training and way to vest. You
ever run you yeah? You ever? You ever run? Not even ten
miles five miles before practice? Andthen you're going spar like you're you're you're
you're used to this stuff. You'renot You're not going You're not walking one
hundred yards at the length of afootball fielding with a questionable costume and saying
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that that caused you to lose thefight. No, what happened over the
course of the fight and what youdid leading up to the fight in training
camp caused you to lose that fight. Course, of course, you know
fights. I was typingable when youknow this like that, they see fighters
see the fight's lost. They seethey's going up to we get a fight
ten days that I used to gogym fight. If they get to all
fifteen rounds, four different smart parkers. This guy have two rounds, is
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coming for rounds. Guy comes round, this guy comes another round, it
comes for another two and then thelast three rounds. I have four spart
parkers. My manager, my trainerused to have each guy in each corner
coming for the first minute. Youcome in a second minute, coming for
the third minute. A sharp tankand it's say take them out. He
say, these last two rounds.Now'm already gone twelve and now they're you
know, that's when you know you'reready. That's ten days out my trace.
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We ain't never gonna get you ain'tgonna getting better shape within those ten
days. Now, you've got tomaintain what you have. People don't turn
his end. There's two pases ofgetting ready for a fight, conditioning,
which is thirty stage and sharpening.Now you focus on the sharpening aspect.
Maintain what you have. So youcut down a row work, you cut
down the miles bag work, youcut down on sparring rounds. All that
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stay sharp and a lot of restyou got arrest. So fighters know that
from all aspect. And that's whyI think you know if your legs are
tired, if you've done on theright work, if you've done a direct
way, no matter what, that'salways a tough thing to gauge. Well,
that's the thing. Peaking, Itell people. Peaking at the right
time is an art. Oh,it's a science. It's a science,
man. You might not figure itout for the last fight year. Oh,
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it's a science. You got toknow. And that's where you have
a trainer who's has that experience toknow when you're peaking at the right time,
when you are, so you're goingto one hundred percent because I don't
know if any fighter has gone onehundred percent. I don't have anyone but
no fighter. Oa. Oh yeahyou usually I feel a hundred perc.
I feel great. Best Trader campof my life. Every camp is the
best train campit or life. Imean, like you got you know what
I mean. I'm just every besttraining again, better than the last time.
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Why would you do different? Idon't do anything different. Oh better,
Yeah, it's better. But whodo you do you spar with?
Somebody? Do I spar? Yeah? Yeah, you have a couple of
different people because maybe one does adifferent technique or whatever. Well, I've
been going up to Strong Style forlike past month or so in Cleveland where
steep A fights the heavyweight Cham forUFC UM. I haven't been sparting with
him at all. But there's acouple of guys up there my weight that
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are in UFC Another heavyweight Jeff Hughes, Alexa camer Uh that that I've been
sparring with up there. Another boxherthat was sparring with like two mondays ago,
that sparred with him like two weeksin a row. Ronnie Hines.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he'ssigned by top rankies. Have you wait
that sparred with him? Tall southPaw up with him, well, in
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fact he's tall. Yeah. Thatit creates more problems normally when you like,
when you're getting ready for a fight, you have a guy that you
spar with. He's not trying tobeat you, you know what I'm saying,
Like, are you the guy they'retrying to beat or you trying to
be you know what do you meanwhen you're sparking? Yeah, you're trying,
not trying. If you like,if I hit him and I hurt
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him, I back off right ifI drop him back? Are you that?
Which guy? Which guy? Areyou or is it like a brawl
when you guys are in there workinghard, But you're working hard, you're
trying, but you're not trying toeach other out because it's learning space,
because you get paid for that.You you know the old say, you
don't leave to fighting the gym.That's when we leave it to fight in
the gym. When you're sparning everyday, you're trying to make it a
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h every day something you just learningcertain things. Something you get caught.
I've been dropped in the gym.I've dropped guys in gym and I said,
you back off, and you knowso, So you work hard,
get ready close, you cant toa fight, but it's not. I
guess what I'm asking is you're trainingfor the fight. They're not. Are
you at the same time as somebodyelse? So you guys most both might
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be getting ready for a fight.But yeah, I mean, if I'm
getting ready for a fight and I'min fight camp and none of my teammates
are, we might split it up. Like if I have three I'm fighting
three five minute rounds and I wantto I want to do a fourth round
for like an extra push. Imight have four guys like set out for
each round, and it's like,I want a fresh guy on me each
round, pushing me, because ifI have somebody that's not in fight camp,
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not in as good as shape,and they're going three rounds straight with
me, they're gonna get tired beforeI do. And at some point,
maybe halfway through the second round,it's no longer gonna be good work for
me. I'm not seeing something thatI'm actually gonna see during the fight.
So I might have a new,a fresh guy come in every single round,
or might I've done it like thisbefore too, where I have three
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four guys and they'll split like therounds five minutes, and I'll I'll be
in the full five minutes of eachround, and then those guys will be
half for something like two and ahalf, will split it so it'll be
four guys. So the first roundwill be Guy A for the first two
and a half, Guy B forthe next two and a half, completing
the first round. Then the thirdperson's the first part of the second round,
and the fourth persons second part ofthe second round. And then we
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said when you spar parts I usedto do. Guy were coming from one
round two rounds the other guy tomix them up, you know, yeah,
Mason. Recently though, I've beenlike, I do different sporting.
I'll do kick boxing sparn, I'lldo boxing spar and then I'll do him
a sparn. I do them allseparately, but overall I'm mma, you're
bringing everything together. But I stilldo the other stuff too. That's that
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was my question. Yes, Yeah, so like recently I've been sparned.
I just sparred h lout Mere PINCHUK. You guys know him. He's from
Ukraine, A couple of time nationalchamp. He's pro here now thirteen and
one I believe from Mike McSorley downin Pittsburgh. Yeah, really good.
He has a bright future ahead ofhim and I've been sparring with him.
Um, like I said Ronnie Hydes, I've be getting up strong style getting
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sparned at the mat Factory Club.So, um, everything's a little bit
different. Try to get um sparringin each different. Yeah, yeah,
it's important. Look, you knowI was telling we were talking to me,
I did you just to We've talkedabout here for almost, uh about
thirteen years, and just like it'sjust First Street, nothing not competing you
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know, and uh, I gotcoming in a couple of guys with the
movie tie guys they showed me hada kick in and they you know,
they start playing with him sparwing.They start kicking and man, stop that
stuff, you know, and Ithink I think they're laughing, you know.
Yeah, so that's so there's acome on, ray, come on,
you know, I'm thinking on man, all right, well, you
know I can't see on the outside. I gotta get close. Yeah.
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So and then you figured out yougot a faint and they come out
with the jab and getting close youknow, bang, and as soon as
you have faint and jep, theypull up like this, so I could
get close and start bringing that bodyand then they start pulling your head down
and you pulled it. Yeah.So it's fun, but it is when
you're not used to the genre.It's a headache. You're take an ass
kicking for a while until you getit. You guys, you have to
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learn, you know. And that'sone guys start kicking my legs. I
figure I had to figure out away I can't let this. But that's
how you learn, you know.And but you take you gonna take your
ass kicking first a lot before youget tell um, when we first talked
to you, you hadn't fought withfor Belatory yet. Yeah, okay,
I was an amateur up into that. When you're going, you're going on
track, but I haven't. Ididn't fight yet. Did you going into
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that first fight? Tell take peopleif they are if that familiar, take
them through that first fight. Didyour did your wrestling background kind of transfer
into it like you thought it wouldinto the pro ranks and things like that.
Well, my first fight, actuallyI strike the whole entire time.
The kid ended up coming down witha knee injury like a minute in five
seconds into the fight, so Iended up getting the t KO. Like
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how you do it? Or didhe just yea? I think personally I
think he was looking away for away out of the fight. Okay,
my coach think that, and Ihate saying that, but looking back at
the film, like how I feltduring the fight, how the fight was
going. I was touching him uppretty good. I hit him with a
couple of power shots. I waspepper him mostly, but whenever I was
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hitting with power, you could seethe look on his face and he was
backing away. He didn't have anyanswer for any of my strikes. He
was running the entire time, andI felt like whenever I walked him down
towards the end of the cage,I hit him with at four or five
strike combo, and after that hejust didn't want to be in there anymore.
So he had a knee sleeve onthe one knee, and I feel
like he just went grabbing forward assoon as I hit him again, just
just for a way out on it, because a lot of guys do that.
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Well. It was we were toughabout as a fighter. If the
rough free tells you but showing mesomething, I'm gonna stop it, and
you back right into the corner.What are you saying? Stop it?
Please? Looking for way? Yeah, losers they always whether it's one loss,
two loss, whatever, if youif you see if you watch their
fights, usually losers they'll they'll startthey'll fight with you at first, but
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yeah, as soon as they startfeeling the pressure or they start feeling like
they're out of it, they'll startlooking for ways out. They'll start like,
how can I get out of this? Where? What can I do?
There was there was fighters, butyou know they come in it's like
any genre. There's actually boxers thatthere was one guy used to take him
on the road and it was allover the country and he bring guys and
bring them and how many rounds youneed? Might got to go? Need
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me go three rounds? Okay,we need Might got to go. You
need you gott to go? Tworounds? We need him to go to
distance, you know whatever he wantedto give. You have these guys.
And he tell them, look,man, you got and these guys are
all tough guys. They weren't greatfighters, but the road warriors. But
and and and he'd say, lookman, you know they say, okay,
you need them for you know,two rounds, two rounds. You
say, hey, my guys arenot going to fall down. They're not
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gonna sit down. He said,they're like sprinters. He said, this
guy's going it's not a marathon,it's a sprains. Then go out as
long as he can, as hardas he can, and give everything he's
got. But once he runs outof gas, that's it. He's gonna
look for the soft spot. Butit'll make it exciting for as long as
it goes. But that's okay,because there's everyone needs the two first two
or two runs, I'm gonna catchyou up, but you know you need
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to learn that. So there's thosetype of guys you know, that are
gonna be the opponents and they understandwhat their job is and the other guys
will take it a distance. Youknow, they're not gonna you know,
So it's it's a that's been boxingforever. So yeah, I figured it
would be an MMA too, Andbecause are tough guys there, as tough
as you come, you know,just but they they're just they're not winners
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in the sense that they understand they'remaking more money is coming as the opponent
than I would anyway else. Right, Well, I mean to answer your
question, I like, I didn'twrestle all during that first fight, and
I felt like if the fight wouldhave went on longer, I would knock
him out within the next minute orso. Do you feel like though the
wrestling is your strength though I knowyou're trying to be, it all depends
on the opponent, it it really, it really does. Like with mixed
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mortual arts, you can change fromfight to fight and it's really how you're
failing that day, what's working bestfor you stylistically, Like you said,
styles make fights. I might bea better striker than somebody, but something
he's doing in a striking game mightbe causing me problems. But we must
boast. Might have fought the samefive guys and I knocked all five guys
out, and all five guys knockedhim out. But there's might be something
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that he's doing himself that's throwing meoff. Maybe a way he's moving,
the way he's throwing a certain combo, maybe his weight, his height,
whatever ends up being. I mean, like he said, styles make fights,
So it all depends on the person. So some people I might strike
with some people, I might wrestlewith some people. I might try to
submit. Some people, I mighttry to t k on the ground.
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All it all depends on the fighterat the end of the day. So
I mean to sit here and tellyou what my strength is is. It's
tough because when I first started itwas wrestling, but like through training everything
else, and I still do wrestlenow, I still do practice my wrestling.
It's just like I've gotten I've seenmyself progress and become a big better
bigs martial artis over the years.In each fight that like, I honestly
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don't I couldn't tell you what mystrength is in MMA. A wrestling match
and wrestling in MMA fight are completelydifferent. Were well rounded? Now?
Yeah? Yeah? So you're you'reranked number ten, yeah, ten at
two o five. But since I'mmoving down to the eighty five, there's
more guys at eighty five in beltor so I'll probably drop out of there's
ten top ten rankings for a fightor two, but shouldn't take long to
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get back up in there. Andyou're you were politicking to move down?
Is that what you're That's that's whatI want to do, because I feel
like I give anybody that the onehundred and eighty five pound weight class trouble.
I mean, I feel the sameway at two two hundred and five
pounds, but difference, yeah,difference, yeah, But I feel like
my I walk around a two hundredfive pounds at the most, like right
now, I wait, two hundredfive pounds two carry well? You carry
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well, little chilling a little differently, thank you? Yeah, strict plan,
go ahead. So I walk aroundat two hundred and five pounds,
that's not that's not good, especiallylike in MMA, A lot of these
guys are us, they're experts.At cutting weight. They these guys are
weighing two thirty cutting down to twoo five. Next thing you know,
they're rehydrating. They might stick afreaking ivy even though you're not supposed to
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start drinking a gallon of water eathave an insulin rebounding. They're up to
two hundred twenty fivewo hundred thirty pounds. Whenever they step in the cage,
I'm still at two o five.I'm not saying I can't handle that,
but why give myself that disadvantage?I totally agree. And at the end
of the day two right, Butyou're not going to pump put on?
Yeah, no, I do.But at the end of the day,
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at the end of at the endof the day, if I'm walking around
two five and at the end ofat the end of each day, I'm
weighing two ten because of the waterI drank and the food I ate.
But then I wake up in themorning and I step back on a scale
saying two two or five again,So I might I might weigh two two
ten when I get in the cage, but I'm actually still only I'm carrying
two hundred five pounds of actual weight. There might be five pounds of food
and water in my system. Butthese guys are actually like they're depleting their
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bodies of water, so they shrinkbecause your your muscles are made mostly of
water. And then whenever you startrehydrating your your muscles absorb the water like
a sponge. Right, So youactually like you'll see you'll see somebody at
wag Ins. Then you'll see themin a fight, and they'll look way
bigger than the fight. And thereason is is because they actually are bigger.
They didn't they didn't lose the weightlike by dieting. They might have
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lost part of it, and thenthey might have been two days three days
before the fight fifteen pounds over.Then they start to cut all that out
with a sauna suit, run inuh, sitting in the sauna, just
sweating everything out. And then assoon as they get on the scale,
it's set. It might say twohundred five pounds. But then the next
day, as soon as they stepon the scale they drink a gallon of
water, there's eight pounds in theirbody. Well, I guess my question
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is if you win your first twofights convincingly, which you did, your
ranked number ten, Now you're onthe you're on the climb. Yes,
he likes to say why are youis it? Why are you going down
because you kind of want to,or because they found someone they want you
to fight down there? Or isthere is there a reason for it while
you're allowed to do it. Ifeel I feel like to myself and my
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coaches, my career is better offat a hundred eighty five pounds for now.
Now. I'm not saying that inthe future that I won't like go
move back up to two oh fivetwenty four, won't move back up to
two oh five, whether it bepermanently or for a title fight like a
cross division uh title fight, whateverwhatever it ends up being. But I
think right now in my career whereI'm at, I think the best move
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for me is if you could doone hundred and eighty five yourself, and
I can. I did it onceas an amateur and that's same day wands.
Now I get thirty six hours afterwinds to rehydrate, eat and everything
before I fight. Um is thebroad a little bit easier with the opponents
or one hundred eighty five pounds inbelletore has more depth? So honestly,
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there's um like you have Gay Garden, Saucy who was a UFC legend,
Leo to Machidah who's a UFC legend, Douglasleem was moving up to one hundred
eighty five pounds. He's one hundredand seventy pounds champ, and uh the
Beltory just beat Roy McDonald who wasex UFC champ former belltore champ just moved
about PFL like, there's there's alot of big guys, big names in
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one hundred and eighty five pounds,and there's more people too. There's more
prospects on the rise. There's there'sguys that I'm not going to mention their
names right now, but there's there'sprospects on the rise in the weight class
that I'm line up right now thatI want in the near future. And
so it's not it's not that thefights are going to be easier, it's
that or that the talent isn't good. I feel like the talent's actually better
at one hundred eighty five pounds.I just I'm not looking at talent when
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I'm looking at what weight class I'mgoing I'm looking what's going to be best
for me. I'm not worried aboutmy opponents. I'm not worried about my
opponents. I'm worried about what canI do to improve myself. So I
might be going down to a tougherweight class, but at the end of
the day, I know it's goingto make me better. I feel better
one hundred eighty five pounds. Yeah, I might be on the taller end
of things that one hundred eighty fivepounds. Not saying I am, but
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uh that that that might be onereason for going down. Maybe a speed
advantage, strength advantage, size advantagelike we talked about with a two or
five. But cutting weight, umjust stylistically, like who's in the weight
class? What do they do?Is it primarily wrestlers? Is easier to
wrestler guys that one hundred eighty fivepounds, one hundred many pounds whatever,
somebody ends up cutting too. There'sa lot of stuff that goes into it.
So, uh, it's not likeit's clear cut, it's like it's
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one hundred and eighty five pounds easier. Is that why you're going down?
It's it's at the end of theday, it's what's best for my career.
Well, I'm sure people are askingit, so I just thought i'd
ask yeah, yeah, No,no offense taken to it or anything.
I just it's it's a hard thingto explain if that weight class has more
depth. How often for you,we've had this conversation, how often would
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you like to fight? Like,how much time between fights is good for
you? For you, it waswhat six weeks? Was your favorite?
I when I wanted to set onme, I had three fights before end
of the year. Yeah, excuseme? Is that air conditioning on?
I figured that that was that wasYoaka, man, that's coming down pretty
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good. Yeah, I'm hearing that. I don't know if you can hear
this, this this we're right onthe river, and of course ye all
for the art for the show mustgo on, right, So for him,
it was six weeks. But Idon't know if in your sport,
if it's the same regiments, Iwould I would I would like to fight
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six every six to eight weeks personally, unless like an injury or something comes
up. But it was six weeks. Was where that peaked? That's what
I do? Yeah, I wouldsay every two months, if we're being
honest, that's what I would liketo But Belatoor ain't gonna give me that.
Last year, I fought it toolong. Last year, I fought
what I fight. I was askingfor fights and fights, yeah, and
they weren't giving them to me.So like I don't have as much leverage
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pool right now because I'm just startingout my career, that's yeah. And
there is a lot of guys.They got to put a lot of guys
on a lot of cards and likeI'm not that guy yet, Like I'm
not that guy. I'm not I'mnot the face of the promotion yet.
So like I don't get the time. I'm not Conor McGregor or the UFC.
I don't get to tell them whatI do, how often I want
to fight who I want, Like, I don't. I don't get to
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do that, you know yet?All right for this third fight, do
you know who you're fighting against?Uh? No, I don't have an
opponent yet. We just like theygot confirmation that it's gonna be at one
hundred and eighty five pounds, Sothat was like kind of like the uh
like the hassle or anything. Yeah. Yeah, so we're we're right about
eight weeks, we're right about twomonths away, right, March third,
weeks May ninth or whatever. Soright close? Does that affect how you
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train at all? Or is this? Is this? I train how I
trained, and then I'll worry aboutthe opponent. Yeah, I worry about
myself. But as soon as Iget the opponent, we'll watch film.
We'll see what he does. We'llsee how I can counter his attacks or
his weak points or anything like that. So uh, at the end of
the day, I'm gonna keep traininglike I do, and as soon as
we get the opponent, whether itbe six weeks out, eight weeks out,
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whatever ends up being, uh,that's whenever, we'll review the film
and see where my strengths defeat hisweaknesses. Are you a good swimmer?
If I feel like we may haveto swim our way out of here,
now, I could float. Italiansaren't the best swimmers. I could float.
We can't help it. You know, good? You said, you
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know when you're on the way up, you want to be like I said,
you want to fight as off aspossible just for experience or to get
that record or for experience experience.Okay, yeah, you want to fight,
but you want to get the experience. Plus you want to get paid,
right, you don't want to lose. I mean, you don't want
to take a fight. You youain't thinking about losing. You ain't think
about that. You're thinking about gettingthe right fights for the right money.
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That's all. But you know,it's it's your career. They like it's
a hobby. It's a career.You got. You don't gotta eat.
You gotta put money away. Yougotta taking of my family. You know,
things are so it's fighting as offas possible. Um so, I
understand. But when you know he'sgotta wait because Beltwo has got a lot
of guys. It's like the PBCfighters. They got a lot of guys.
You know in the next year,how many you know, and who
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are you depending on the set thematch belt I mean belts, they're gonna
do the So yeah, they theythey have a matchmaker. They match match
the fights. They give me offerslike all right, like you have you
might have this guy and this threeor four guys to give it three four
guys you have get three or four. They gave me two for the last
one to pick from. Okay,uh so they'll they'll throw a couple of
guys out you they might throw oneat you at once and you either say
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yes or no. But sometimes theythrow two at you, maybe three in
a rare scenario, and you werelike, all right, which which guy
do you want? And you chooseso and this is correct me from him.
Don't see about to tell you.It isn't like, oh, he's
the easier guy. No, what'sthe best style for you? Yeah,
people should say to me like i'dsay. People say, all guys that
box you said no. On thecontrary, the guys who staying in front
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of me gave me more problems.I'd rather have a guy move away because
I knew how to cut the ringoff, and I'd walk him down and
I'm gonna stop him. Eventually,I'm gonna catch them guys stands the front.
It's a firefight. Firefights, butfirst place, you never know,
it could be lucky punch gets inand that's and you're an award, you
know. I said, I usedto this all the time, and I
think I might said it too ifI didn't. People used to say to
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me, oh, what's the lastthing you do before walking into the ring,
And I'd say, we'd be ready. I thought I'd go in to
the best I'd look in the mirrorand I look because I I said,
I knew I was not going tolook the same on the way out.
So psychologically, I just took onelast look because I know, and that
was the thing for me. Iknow it was gonna but that's part of
the deal. You know what you'retalking people. You know, well,
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you're going to war. You're goingto war, and so psychological I just
want to I'm not gonna look thesame. And it was just the thing
I did. I used to youknow, do you do anything not like
that? No, No, I'mjust saying maybe not like that. Look
in my ear. Yeah, Isee that. I lost that prettiness a
few years ago. So now Ijust pray. I thought. I thought,
headphones on and just listen to music. Yeah, I just try to
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get in my zone. Nobody talkedto me getting my zone. Whenever it's
time to start warming up and hittingmitts. Same thing. There are some
music on, so hitting mits.No one talked to me. Yeah.
Nothing. See, it was adifferent when I was people say I wanted
people to my friends that would saythey cut the requested No, man,
come on, I wanted to comesup because what they say they give it
all, right, you know,fifty half hour, fifteen minutes, ten
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minutes, you know stuff like that. You know, okay, put the
rube on. And five minutes agoand you know when you're hitting pads and
all that stuff, and five minutesago, now he's shaking on. It's
all done and going to warn out. I mean, it's it's on.
So I'd like to talk to me, because I knew what I was up.
I was going into. I justfor that moment, I wanted.
I wanted to escape. But now, but the fights never away from you.
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You always have it. And thenyou get that tunnel vision. And
I walked from the dress room thering. And I tell people this all
the time that walk from the dressroom to the ring. More fights are
winning loss from that walk between thedress room and the ring than inside the
ring. People, what do youmean by that? Psychologically? Right?
Right? Right right right? Oryou go out there all of a sudden
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you get hit with the crowd.Yeah, and a lot of guys.
You've seen guys and they get overwhelmedby it and it's just they get it
over and they go and I've seenthat, and that's not a one time
they gets an every time thing couldbe some of our best fire. Tommy
Herns when he fought Marvin, Tommywent out. You got overwhelmed by it,
and you know it just did andhe's talked about that later on.
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So it happens. So that's whatI'm saying. It's a mindset you have
to have and can't be comfortable toeveryone the war and that's it's just it's
something that walk Man tells you everything. So people say, what would you
too? I said, I talkto myself. You're going to see the
crowd, your folks for this.It's my ring, just my night,
just mind night. You know,things like I'm a champ, I'm a
champion, things like that. Italked to myself. What do you say?
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Yeah, pretty much the same thing, Like this is my ring.
He came here, he has togo through me. He's just like he's
a guy in my way from mygoal. So no, not nothing personal,
but I gotta get you out ofthe way. Stuff like that,
like then the poisonal Mike, butthe personal. But I feel like I
got to take you up. Youare confident. I know you're very confident.
Did you never see me fight?No? True, true, look
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don't you might look since she's here, would you like to come in and
ask some questions? We like tohave you one more question. Cat,
you come in and I'm gonna aska question. I bet that other people
are thinking. Okay, how aboutthat? Um you get you get the
cameras on your love you ge getyour shot. You get your shot.
You're gonna get your shirt, andyou can introduce yourself to Alight. Tell
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him your name. Tell your name, Jenna Delicio? Okay, and what
you're in school? I'm a senior. And what do you want to be
when you grow up? I'm goinginto business. I'm an under percent.
Sure what I want to do yet? Okay? Do you mean Dalton?
Yep? This is Dalton? Runit didn't nice to meet you? Too?
Great? All right, hang up, come up with a question and
maybe a follow up, but I'mgonna ask this first. Okay, okay,
all right, you let the wheelstart turning. All right, I'm
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gonna if you don't if you don'thave to answer, you don't have to
answer this if you don't want to, because I think a lot of people
are out there like this guy's toonot answering it. Damn it. This
guy's too, and oh this ishis job? What's he? What do
you get paid? What like forthe next fight? Where are you gonna
get paid for the next fight?And if you don't want to answer me,
just say I can't. That's apersonal I mean answer that one.
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Do you get paid per fight?Yeah? I get paid per fight.
You get if you win, youget more. I get show a show
person, and I get win moneyas well. What if you don't win?
Not? What if if if Iweren't to win, I would just
get my show money, which likeafter the fight, they come up with
my show show check first, andthen I'll go backstage. I'll like,
check up with the doctor. Assoon as I walk out from the doctor,
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then they have my win bonus.I said, no date, I
love what Hey hey hello? Ifthis stay not it's like I'm here,
I'd like to look at between thisthing right, but we're gonna get it.
We're gonna go back. Uh um. That was the one thing I
liked to buy MM, which Ithink boxing got to do because everywhere you're
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guaranteed X amount. MMA both guaranteeX amount, but for show, if
you win, get more X amountmore. It's in boxing he's just guaranteeing
your money. I think, man, it would be so much more,
so much better, fights, muchmore competitive, and there's no reason they
can't do it. There's no reasonthey should be doing it. So do
you have another job that you doto kind of make ends meet? Or
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is this just I mean you're allin on. Yeah. Look, you
can't if you're gonna be a fighterand be a champion, you can't.
You have a family or something.Understand that. But that's well, that's
why he wants to fight more.But look, I used to say that.
People say I had no job.I went to New York and moved
ups it. It was my life, it was my career. Does fight
regularly, that's fortunate to stay healthy, to fight regularly, that's fight one
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average of once a month because monsaround the country all over. But a
lot of guys, you know,like you said, they trained, they
gotta fight, feed the family.That's why I don't advise fighters, whether
boxers and might make guys especially goodlooking like this. You're young. I'm
sure you know. I mean thatwas her question. Girl, Frist'm already
she's already give me a Yeah,she's gonna ask questions she says, I
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don't know if he's married anyhow,don't take her question. That might have
been all right, but no,but but but my father told me.
He just said, remember, Ican tell you what to do. But
here's my advice. Don't want toget it serious or have a relationship,
because your career has got to beyour lady. And what happens is usually
relationship isn't successful or the career isn'tsuccessful. But what mostly happens both aren't
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successful. So I know, youknow, I had a girl friend here,
you know, high school group girl. I did well when I was
turning pro You don't go. Iwas, hey, there's nothing gonna stop
me going to be what I wanted. That was my dream. I mean,
that was nothing. And I feelbad, you know, you know,
but you shouldn't. But but butI guess success is the greatest effordisiac.
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And my man will tell you thatright there. You go, it's
like there's you know, it's headyeah, but in appropriate. I was
just gonna ask what your family thinksabout you fighting and did you always know
that you wanted to fight? Um? I h that's a beautiful question.
That's a wonderful word. Yeah,much better than yours. Much better.
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Yeah, I mean I actually Idon't talk to my mother anymore. And
uh my dad passed away like fouryears ago. So um, sister,
Yeah, I have my brother's allfor it. Uh. And then that
my cousin Adam, he's all forit. He's my hype man. He
always hyped me up. You know, you have to. But uh,
I have a couple. No,not quite that much. Yeah, but
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uh so like the family that Ido talk to you, they're there for
it. But um, yeah,I mean whenever I was growing up,
I watched w W. I watcheda lot of like cartoons were like fighting
and stuff. So I was likealways interested in that stuff. Uh.
And then like I started watching UFCwith my dad. Uh wrestled at a
young age. He put me inboxing at like eleven twelve years old,
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and uh then like we would alwayslike whenever I saw jiu jitsu on the
weekends, like whenever there's fight card, like the whole jim would get together
and have like a little cookout orwhatever, order the pay per view and
we all watch it. And likeme and my dad always talked about like
either like my dream was either goto NFL or Go or BUFC Champ.
So those those were like one ofthese two things is that I wanted to
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do. And it's like I didn'tquite at the time. No, no,
which one I loved more, ButI love both of them so uh
And it turns out that m manended up being the way to go.
So I'm chasing that dream full onright now. Beautiful. Look, that's
that's more often than not, Mike, Mike's telling me, I mean my
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mentor, Mike, you're my mentor. You might cheer, you might cheer
and yeah, look I thought Icould talk a lot. Yeah, yeah,
you can just want the best.Yeah. It's like it's like when
you have an interview, right,you get the microphone and asking like you're
you're talking talking yeah, and theyyou know I'm talking yeah. Um you
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know you said, you know whenyou don't know when you we're not going
away up. I always know whatI want. I was just that was
I was forced. I was veryfortunately to fill up my dream to live
my dream. And it's when you'retalking about um, when you watch with
your father, you know, maytimesI get I get the greatest feeling,
I get the greatest compliment from peoplesay to me, me and my father,
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or me and my grandfather, orme and my family used to sit
there watch your fights. It's thegreatest compliment I could ever reach received.
And that was our together time.And a lot of guys told me that
was. You know, me andmy father came closer watching that fights,
watching the fights, you know yoursand others, Ray Leonard and Tommy Hearns
and all that. And it's agreat feeling. It's a beautiful thing.
But that is you know, mother'sit's if it's a male thing or not,
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but it's the bonding thing. Yeahand yeah, it's it's like the
father son bond. And uh hewould like I said, but he was
all for uh, like me pursuinglike fighting as a goal. I mean
before it was wrestling in high schooland he would drive me. We talked
about this on the show last time. He would drive me all across the
state of Pennsylvania, like in highschool to get better because I wanted to
be a state champ. Barring injuries, I probably would have been, but
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ended up getting injured my juniors inthe year before postseasons both years, but
he was driving. The point wasthat we were putting in the work to
do it, and I couldn't havedone it by myself. He was driving
me to do boys, like becausethere was a state champ up there that
he researched to call the coach.You know, can my son, Dalton
Rosta get in and work with youguys? He wants to wrestle the best
in the state. Then I wasdriving down to Cannonsburg, Washington County,
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Reynolds, which is in Greenville,which is like forty five minutes from me
Boardman, Ohio. Like I wasbouncing all over the place. So yeah,
So he was all in for wrestling, and I know he would have
been all in for MMA too,but I just started like fighting full time
before, like as an amateur,like had my first fight coming up like
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whenever. He got in a motorcycleaccident and was in hospital and the fight
was like on the horizon, sohe never got to see me fight or
anything. But he would have beenall for that too. Food because we're
gonna get the less. She's gonnagive us the less. Question Oh good,
All right, let me ask youthis then, and I'll be doing
I promise, think of another one. What do you do you just like
training twenty four seven all the time. Or is there something you like to
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do other than that? Do youever just go out a beer with your
friends, or do you throw dartsor do you read books? Or is
there anything else you just like todo to get away from it? I
mean or is I've actually never neverdrank alcohol, never, never even had
a sip, never, never eventried it, never been, never wanted
to. Never And i'mmired. I'miredbutt beer when I used to be training
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that coming out and plead my trainerfeel my trainer, Rophy Griffins, very
very feff Man film man, I'mmy body. Shit. Go get a
beer, beer, give you alittle boot because it's got bolt, Marley
and hops. It's grain so actuallyfood, it's actually food, so you
know ms way to get that.You put the psychological infective. You like
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getting a treat, so to speak, but it's more. Yeah, you
can't. There's no discrete because youenjoyed that. But like, you're not
a bear drinker. I'm not abear trinker. That was the only time.
I'm not a beard drinker. I'ma wine guy. No, that's
Jesus shoes. Come on, man, you gotta have a sipping of grapes.
Jesus, come on, you drinkwine, right, she's seventeen.
That's no, no, no,she can't drink it out. But my
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son, my baby, My son'swill young, I'd say, and I'd
say, I think it with glassone to go, I go, and
I give it to him. It'smy as long as you with me.
So my point. I knew youcan't order, but you know it's a
cultural thing. So at home doyou drink at home? Like what your
what's your food? Yes? Deathis that? Hey? Mom? Dad?
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Let me just say, Mom,she's old enough to after Jesus shoes.
Come on. It's a beautiful thing. It's for a heart. All
that is. I can't how manypeople, Oh, no, we know
what it is. I know he'strying to get you to start drinking.
Being a bad influence. Man.I'm trying to be world champion every here
because it's a boost. Man.It's psychological too. When you're training your
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ass off, you need things toget you pizza. There you go.
I could said that wasn't my thingwas never food. I love all you
know. I just want to tellyou, I just so you know,
I just passed Sunday. Did theexplore it was? It was did the
pizza competition? Slice of the ValleyI had to have. I couldn't eat
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it all obviously, eighteen different pizzaplaces. So but round of six round
and I was a judge. Soyou judge it on appearance, sauce,
cheese, crust, and you know, like the overall. So so you
take a little give you you know, slippers, but you take a bite
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and wine and you take the piecethe first couple you eat because you're like,
I'm hungry. Aunt. That's that'smy my boost. I usually eat
healthy throughout the whole entire week.I actually have a meal prep sponsor.
You have fresh now and uh yeah, yeah, he come all the way,
come all the way to yes.So yeah, I'm usually eating healthy
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throughout the whole week. And thenI'll give myself a cheat mail that kind
of like a treat. Like hesaid, not alcohol, but I'll do
no, no, no, Imean wings or something like that, brains,
barley and hops. It's a grain. It's you know, like oat
meal. It's like it's like alcoholicglass. But no, that was my
last question, so so know what'scoming up? So you said May.
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That's the next one. You're trainingup nine so in city in San Jose,
California. So we're gonna come backto coronavirus. No, you better
not. That's the way to go. Um. Any personal pearance has got
to come up. Any other specialevents that you wanna let people know where
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you're gonna be. Nothing, nothingset yet, pretty much. I just
training right now, waiting for myopponent and then rolling with the punch.
I want you to know you're alwayswelcome here because we were following you.
We keep keeping tracks where you're becomingour guy. I gotta have my guy
to follow because I don't follow anymanything by me. I really don't.
I've got freaky Agar was a friendof mine, so I was franky.
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I'm still a freaky Edgar fan.He's just I think he's retired now.
He's not perfect, okay, becauseI know it has a fight, but
he may fight again, Okay,I wasn't sure. Uh, but I'm
a big fan of guy. Youknow. I'm miredest guys who who terrific
athletes, just terrific athletes, youknow, And you know, can we
watch the fight anywhere? Yeah,It'll be on the Zone the box.
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It's Dazin. I used to callday No, no, no, I'm
pretty sure it's pronounced no. Thisis I was the one who comes saying
Dazzin, it's not and then they'regoing on my friend Kate though No,
no, right, right, it'sit's it's the zone because yeah, but
it was because her boyfriend is oneof the or Fielance you now is one
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of the guys is the commentators.So there you go. The Zone.
Yeah, it's usually on Paramount Networkand the bell Tord app. But this
fight show coming up to them onis paper View. It has Bader and
nemcov Is the main event, andthen Douglas Lima and Gay Arms Saucy are
fighting for the vacant one eighty fivepound titles the COVI guys. Yeah,
okay, so you'll be in themiddle of it, or you think it'll
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be more towards the beginning, orI'll I'll be on the prelims. A
card like that, you gotta buyit from the beginning, like you can't
buy it in the middle. No, I don't throw a bunch of jerks
if I'm waiting to watch, youknow, part of the deal, part
or I don't want to miss yourfight because it's only twenty bucks for the
month. Just buy the thing.I'll buy for all of us. But
now, was it your young sonfresh? Ze yo Fresh? Tell us
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what's about the Yo Fresh? Whatis that? Fester yo fester yo Okaya?
Oh? I know it Sparren.Mind is good guys, good guys,
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very good guy in spine. Mindis a great organization. So you
so you're based in Clamfield too,can't It's Brown's Camfield. Now what are
you guys based on it? Thatbasically Clamfield? I said, oh no,
no, the the the kitchen,play the kitchen because I like try
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it so so could you get Youcould get it like I could go there
and buy it for my week orI got okay e commerce, so I
can, but I go pick itup. I gotta give it a shot,
me and my brod. I gottagive it a shot. I'd loved
it. I'd be great food.Yeah, great food. I you know
what, I did see you onon the news that the morning of the
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twenty one. I did see ittalking about it so wonderful. Ash,
It's a great thing if you ifyou bond ten they give twelve. Back
to the second artist. Food.That's a beautiful thing. That's a beautiful
Do you eat two at once orjust one? I usually just eat one,
but it's enough fills you up.Oh yeah, hooks me up.
Okay, my man knows. Thereyou go. So you got the thing
to yo fresh on your thing,like like the fresh principal Yo fresh.
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That's Noah, that's a nickname.Don't yo fresh. That's not a bad
nick this guy believe every week Igo, all right, your final word
one thing? If you had anickname, did you can think of what
would be a nickname? Oh mygosh, that's pretty boy, that idea,
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he's bill like why beautiful? Gotthat dangerous? Dalton dangers Thalton or
rock and Roaster ro actually roast rostrocket roust rusta mind yeah you know see
it. I like nick like thatone. But the rock and Roster,
come on, she's a stroking yourego. I like that one. That
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one's good too. I feel likethe first one's more original, though,
Rocket Roster Dalton rocket rosta. ThereI've done, I know, I just
because I got it. I've gotit. I don't shirt up, I've
got it. Just well I wasgonna you guys kind of stole my question.
I was gonna ask if you likefollow like a strike to meal plan,
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but I guess, okay, soyou said your records too and ol,
So how do you usually like celebrateyour win food? Just food?
Like after after my last fight,it was in my Hugan Sun arena in
the casino and h Connecticut. Yeah, that one huge, huge, I
mean it was twelve thousand man arenainside casina. Then they have like two
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separate casinos, a freaking bowling alleyat nightclub at event Center. It was.
It was massive, but there werethere was like probably like twenty thirty
restaurants inside of there. And uhno, I can't eat that much.
But uh i, um, Iwent to an Italian restaurant and got freaked
the name of it and uh Igot chicken partmer show. I could eat
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that every pasta. Yes, it'sone of my favorite foods for sure.
Did they bring out one of thosedesserts with the sparkler on it when you
want nothing like that? You didn'ttell the way, not that we're celebrating.
I'm not that special, but yeahI did that, and then we
we gambled a little bit, Idid you bet on yourself? No?
I didn't. Were you on theboard you? Yeah, you have to
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be a time I did. Icouldn't. I've never I believed in myself.
I wasn't. You know. Yeah, but with Belatore, you have
to be on the main card inorder to be like on any like on
FanDuel or Draft Kings or anything likethat. I have to be on the
main card. And I was onthe prelims for that one. Ray lost
a guy five thousand dollars last week. I told him, what the bet
you owe him? That money wastwelve twelve? No, it was twelve
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fun I thought was I could sayfive twel hus. I was at an
event and cleaned before the fight underthe mic the MI ladies and gentleman back
to the mic, So wait,did you tell him Wilder was gonna win?
N That guy said to me,Ray, what do you think it's
gonna win? I said, Wilderis gonna stretch him? Because I don't
think. I don't think Fury canfight a lick. I really don't.
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And I still say that big guywho could move fighting is the whole different
thing. He don't do them work, you know. But but but he
did Elvin job that night. I'mnot gonna take away takes it for you
one, but I still think.I said, Walder is gonna stretch him.
I said, And the best betit don't go twelve and it'll be
a knockout. Either way, it'llbe a knock out. So what do
you do? He told this guyfive hundred on Walder to win five hundred
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for seven hundred from knock him out. They were talking on the freaking pregame
show, like Steve Connaham and Iknow Steve, but Steve, Steve is
talking and Sean Porter and a coupleother guys, and they were saying,
like, it's more likely that DeonteWilder wins by decision and Fury by knockout.
And yeah, I mean it's hard, it's hard. Yeah, they
(01:02:00):
are experts that they we're all socold. Yeah, but you guys know
it better than anybody else. Imean, you gotta, you gotta take
you gotta. I would say asI said. The other thing, I
said, if it would be aknockout is Swad. If it's a decision,
it would be Fury. But Isaid, the best bet, that
best bet is it don't go toeither way, it don't go ten rons.
But he but water will knock himout any I hope he's his bet.
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That you have people like Raymond Siniand Steve Cunningham and Sean Porter telling
you that Wow is gonna kno himout. I mean, we're here,
You're gonna put your money on you. You're gonna trust these guys. But
that's just goes to show you nobodythat I know nothing. The one thing
I do know is I know nothing. But I think what the point is
you just don't know us. WhatI do know ye that we're getting a
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little longer to tooth, so shutdown. And here's what I do know.
Oh no, no fury a jit's a fury now will beat We'll
just a little side bet, parta little party, joan nut dinner.
Yeah, well get up at theday. Here's the best bet this show.
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The Lady Year is gonna be astarte or whatever she fits to choose
in life. Whenever you profession youchoose you will be a star because you
got you got personality galore, shegot personality, and you got looks.
You got it all, baby,you got the total package. Right.
If you're not a raging alcoholic.The ray wants you to be. You
really got a change. How's yourgreat? How's your great? Good grades?
Yeah? Your three points tudent?Sound a little hesitant there. Well
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she's not talking into the mic.That's why I'm ask Yeah, good sharett
Shart, I have a four pointtwo GP. Okay. I didn't want
her to brag. I just stillwant I wanted to be a humble about
it. Do you know where youwant to go to college? I got
to the Owners Business program at OhioUniversity. That's Bobcats beautiful, Bobcat boy.
That's a party. You gotta winnerdown there. And I hope you
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come back and U and I appreciateit. Was this was this worthwhile coming
because listening to this rain, wemay we're making boat. I'm maybe getting
our boats and going home, geta boat. And I don't know,
but thank you for coming, thankyou for having me? All right?
And will you come back? WellI come back? Yeah. After that
(01:04:14):
said, we're gonna have you back. You gotta be one of our staples.
You gotta come back. That's wantto come back you guys. Yeah,
Well some food for you next time, maybe we'll bring them. Because
now We have a hell of achef here. I met him Murder,
one of the couples. But Iwant to thank our friends here at Charbonna
Winery. Shar and Ben does Sharbine. But think if the little French flavor.
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I think we should call Sharbon raydo too sharpin ray. Come on
now, sh She likes that SharinSharbin ray Anya. But thank you for
having us. It's a wonderful place. Anybody come out of here, downtown
worn right over the bridge, Shuttleyou over to the to the what's the
(01:05:03):
what's the theater? Robins theater,Freddy's show? You come here, you
have dinner beforehand, just shut youover, to shut your back, have
some after dinner drinks or just someopportuities. I mean, look, man,
it's a great joint spectacular. Iwill bring my bride out of here
soon soon as the as soon asthe well I can use my car instead
of a boat. We'll be backup. But anything else, anything else,
(01:05:25):
anything else, if you want totalk about your speaker series or we
thank you speaker said one our firstevent, our first event. You're here,
Marcia A lot keeps me correct.Sixth March eighteenth down at the your
center of downtown Youngstown at uh theold Warner Brothers Theater to your Uh.
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We're gonna have our first event,the Speaker Series, our first one,
and we're bringing Michael Francaise and youknow, Michael Friends. Saiss Michael Friends
like Mafia shows or anything like that. Michael Friends was the youngest couple organized
crime history at twenty four in nineteeneighty six. He was old. He
was all time, all the topmy bosses of all time. He was
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numbers seventeen. Problem. He broughtmore money into one single family since al
Capone at that time. In hisnineteen eighties, Michael's a dear friend of
mine who got jammed up, wentaway and then jail and found God,
came born again Christian. Now hegoes out and speaks. But it's the
best. It's not it's the besthe could have. Comes out in his
opening line, as I've known youwere expecting to see the Godfather, but
(01:06:30):
I'm here to talk to you aboutGod their father, which is a great
line. But he does, buthe tells about his exploits. He talked
about growing up. His father wasone of most recognizable and legendary mob bosses
who just passed away. Last weekwe talked about it was one hundred three
years old oldest my boss and organizedcrime history as far as just passed away,
and Michael talked about his time havingto sit down with John Gotti hadn't
(01:06:55):
sit down, you know, runninga family at twenty four years old.
And it's when the first mentume Imet Michael nineteen eighty three down all Berry
Street, New York. We'll talkabout talk about that, but it's just
you're so brilliant and so brad.You listen this and I say this,
folks, it's entertaining because you hearabout these stories. It's it's it's entertaining.
It's educational because he gives you abouta store, what it's like inside
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a mob family, and how theorganized crime has run. But it's life
altering. It truly, truly ishow he changed his life. He did
what everybody says you can do.He walked away from the mob. He
doesn't travel with bodyguards. That hesaid, I only I got the greatest
bodyguards in Jesus christ Is. Michael'ssuch a wonderful guy, very inspirational and
it's just one of the best people. Believe me, it's an event you
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don't want to miss downtown young stuntAt to do your center, you got
to call and get tickets at theyour ticket office. Do your tickets to
read so you call downtime next time. We have nothing to do with tickets,
please March eighteenth. And there's differentpackages. Ask them about the packages.
But believe me, it would beone of the best that you you've
had. You remembered. Always partof the proceeds go too, oh it
(01:08:01):
proceeds. Yeah, Well it's myfoundation. It's the my foundation now for
the Ray Boomerman Sini Foundation. Andactually we have a couple of different I
wish I could tell you who theexact people are that could be recipients of
the money this time, but thusI don't have a card in front of
me and I'll tell you, butwe will have. There are a couple
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of different recipients. One of themis the young lady if you looked at
it was from Youngstown who had thehouse. Interviewers all over news. It
was heartbreaking. I watched. Isaid, we gotta do something for her.
Young lady. Her apartment cut onfire, she lost everything. This
is only about a month ago andshe's heartbreaking. Right, it's right before
(01:08:43):
Christmas, right before Where was that? After? No, right before Christmas?
There's rightful Christmas. Shoot everything we'redown everything. She come here and
she had nothing left and it's hard. It's heartbreaking to see that, you
know. So anyway, so we'regonna we're giving someone, we're gonna proceeds
for her and um. Anyway,So it's just I'm happy. I'm very
proud of our organization. What wedo. We try to help those who
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don't can't help themselves or local organizations. We keep it local and that's the
best part about it. So anyway, Speaker series March eighteenth, please call
down at the your and get tickets. Uh, tickets are selling. We're
sound pretty good, soul anyhaw umanything else? That's it? Lord,
anything you want me to say?Okay, Well, until next time,
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Thank my brother, thank you,thank your pleasure. It's such lovely to
have you. You colored up,joint, you really you colored up?
You really better do it. Yeah, it's like a flowers, just the
middle amongst all the thorns. Anyhow, until next time, take care of
each other, love each other,good night, and God bless them.