December 19, 2024 • 14 mins
Xperi Corp. SVP/Broadcast Radio and Digital Audio Joe D'Angelo is readying for a big CES 2025, which officially opens on January 7 across a wide swath of Las Vegas.
In this exclusive conversation, D'Angelo shares in this InFOCUS Podcast, presented by dot.FM, what's in store for the broadcast media industry at this year's Consumer Electronics Show and offers hints that DTS AutoStage, HD Radio and TiVO are on track for a big year ahead.
In this exclusive conversation, D'Angelo shares in this InFOCUS Podcast, presented by dot.FM, what's in store for the broadcast media industry at this year's Consumer Electronics Show and offers hints that DTS AutoStage, HD Radio and TiVO are on track for a big year ahead.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
This is the RBR TVBR in Focus podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Here's your host, Radio and Television Business Report Editor in
Chief Adam R. Jacobson.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Hello, and welcome to the latest in Focus podcast, which
is presented by dot FM, streaming social podcast or broadcast
get at dot fm domain name by heading over to
get dot fm today. Xberry Corporation Senior Vice President of Broadcast,
Radio and Digital Audio, Joe DeAngelo is readying for a
big CES twenty twenty five, which officially opens on January seventh,
(00:38):
across a wide swath of Las Vegas. In this exclusive conversation,
mister D'Angelo shares a little bit about what's in store
for the broadcast media industry at this year's Consumer Electronics Show,
and he offers hints that DTS, Auto Stage, HD Radio
and T Vote are on track for a big year ahead.
Joe spoke with me for the Winter twenty twenty five
(01:02):
RBR and TVBR magazine, which is distributed in digital format
on January sixth, and at the special VIP only Cocktails
and Conversation reception at CES on January the eighth in
Las Vegas. Let's enter the conversation right now. Okay, so,
Joe de'anngelo. You are the senior vice president of Broadcast
(01:24):
Radio and Digital Audio for Experior. You're based in Columbia, Maryland.
What can you share with respect to experience, upcoming presence
at CES and what the year might bring for some
of its core products, including the DTS Auto Stage, HD
Radio And we can't forget TVO because we are the
Radio and Television Business Report and there's certainly a lot
(01:46):
of excitement there as well.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Great well, Adam, it's great to be with you again.
I can't believe we're approaching CES twenty twenty five, but
it's right around the corner, and twenty twenty four has
been a heck of a year. I'll start with a
DTS Auto stage, which is now supported by over twelve
(02:09):
automakers around the world. Most recent partners to come on
board we're BMW and Mini and the rollout is going
exceptionally well. We're going to announce some very exciting milestones
at the show, so we'll update everyone both in the
automotive and broadcast industry on the number of cars on
(02:33):
the road in the market in all the markets around
the world, which from a broadcast radio perspective, is really
exciting because it's not only generating, you know, delivering a
much better, you know, richer user experience, but also generating
those invaluable analytics. And the more cars, the more insights,
(02:56):
the better you understand your audience. So that is you know,
DTS is progressing exceedingly well. HD radio here in North
America continues to grow. I think we're shipping in just
over sixty percent of all new cars that's sold in
twenty twenty four, and we see that trend continuing with
(03:19):
you know, bigger and broader support from major brands like
Toyota and Ford Motor Company, which is you know, very
exciting to see. We're going into well, we're now midway
through our second decade of HD radio deployment. And on
the TiVo side, I think you probably have seen the
(03:40):
convergence of the TiVo platform from the home coming into
the car. We launched that last year with BMW, and
now that's starting to really scale around the world. And
are people are watching TV in their cars, you know,
whether they're at the charging stations or picking up the kids,
(04:04):
or waiting for a train or whatever it might be.
We're actually seeing this use case really mature and develop
which is you know, very exciting to see and being
where we are in the center stack of the car,
we are the trusted media platform now for so many
car companies.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
You see this as potentially large, and we see this
as interesting because you know, your use cases sound like
evs are really a focal point. But also in the
coming year's autonomous vehicles, so that's something that you know,
we haven't really thought about in terms of what that
(04:43):
could bring. For radio, you obviously have HD radio and
DTS auto stage. And now this is there any concern,
Is there a threat or is this all just part
of the total media mix that will come to consumers
just as they have right now, just in many different platforms,
(05:04):
in many different devices while they're behind the wheel or
in the passenger side.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
You know, I think we're seeing three real trends that
are driving this integration of multiple, multiple media sources and
media types in the car. The first is a real
desire from the automakers to control or at least participate
in the ecosystems around media consumption. And a lot of
(05:32):
the digital platforms that exist, you know, whether it's an
iOS or android or tablet or even in home TV,
don't really allow the manufacturer to participate. So the OEMs
are looking at the opportunity a little bit differently, and
they're saying, how can we design systems in the car
(05:54):
that enable media consumption but are based on business relations
and chips with content providers and platform partners like Expery
that allow them to participate in the economics. So it's
very exciting. You'll hear a lot more about this at CES,
(06:15):
which has become a bit of an automotive show, and
definitely into twenty twenty five. The second thing we're seeing is,
and it may seem counterintuitive, but OEMs are installing more
screens than ever in the car. You know, there was
this period where we had rear seat DVD players and
(06:36):
then as you know, the iPhone and iPads became available,
a lot of those screens disappeared. Well, they're coming back.
You're seeing pillar to pillar screens in the front seat,
you're seeing rear seat entertainment displays in the backseat, and
we're seeing the media being targeted to different screens. So
(07:00):
you're get to see gaining in the rear seat. You're
going to see media control still in the center stack,
but you will see the passenger being able to watch
videos while they're driving. So you know, there's there's this
economic environment that's changing, there's the technology landscape with more
(07:21):
and more screens, and then there's just this proliferation of content.
And what's really driving that is the content owners are
getting much more flexible in how they are granting rights
to basically consume their content on different platforms. The most
obvious is, you know, the big sports leagues here in
(07:43):
the US used to only be able to watch it
on broadcast TV, then came direct TV. Now the leagues
are offering digital packages, you know, direct to consumers. So
by loosening that those restrictions and making content really available everywhere,
consumers are seeking to get the content everywhere they want
(08:04):
to be in a very native user experience. So I
think that's really what's behind it. You mentioned the autonomy.
I think that definitely in play. We saw recently where
Mercedes was granted Level four autonomy in Germany. You know,
that's a huge milestone in terms of the progress of
(08:27):
fully autonomous vehicles. I'm not going to prognosticate as to
when we're going to see that in mass market, but
it's definitely under development. It's got a lot of traction,
and I do think it will come and that will
dramatically impact media consumption in the car.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
With more attention than ever given to CS twenty twenty
five from the radio industry, what do you believe will
be the more exciting talk topics that those cocktails and
conversations gathering that we've had now for at least the
last several years.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Well, you know, looking at it from an experi perspective, obviously,
the progress and the value of the DTS all to
stage analytics, I think it's going to be really material.
We're starting to see broadcasters really talk about or take
(09:23):
action with that data. And we've done a lot of
partnerships in the background with companies like you When, Skyview
and Ben'stown, Jacob's Media to make the whole ecosystems much
more integrated and create efficiencies for the broadcasters. And I
think as broadcasters realize that we've been doing that work
(09:45):
behind the scenes, they're going to be able to get
even more out of their relationships with any one of
those companies because of the ways we're working together and
because of the really the integration points around at least
what we're doing the car. So I'm hoping that the
industry really that begins to resonate with the industry and
(10:06):
they really start to look away to exploit these kind
of collaborations.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Last question for it is about AI because it's been
the big buzz topic and I'm sure CES is going
to have a lot when it comes to AI. But
from your perspective, AI can be a lot of things.
It could be consumer facing, it can be behind the
scenes when it comes to AI and radio on TV
and where you guys sit on your apperch you know,
(10:33):
what what are you really looking to see and what
is expected when it comes to that conversation over the
next year.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
It's a very complex topic to kind of unpack, you know,
because AI can mean such a variety of things to
different people in different contexts of you know, technology and
content applications. I think a lot of the buzz right
now is around generative AI and how to protect consumers
(11:03):
from or at least inform consumers about AI generated content.
There is a ton of regulation emerging around that in
the space that is going to dramatically impact how end
products and services are delivered. You know, there's going to
have to be full disclosure there's a still it's unsettled
(11:28):
around liability and responsibility for providing that disclosure, especially on
aggregator platforms. You know, who actually has the obligation to
inform the customers or consumers about content creation. When we
look at what we're doing, though, a lot of what
(11:49):
we're doing has been traditionally characterized as machine learning, where
you know, we engage with our end customers, we understand
their media consumption patterns, and we use that to develop
a more compelling set of recommendations for content delivery. That
(12:09):
is definitely coming into the car. That's definitely coming in
around our DTS Audo stage platform. But we want to
be very judicious and how we use this terminology AI,
because not everything is AI, and AI is a little
bit too generic at this point to really describe the
(12:31):
technical capabilities at least of our system.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Any other thoughts you want to share.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Just very excited, you know, as always, it's still still
fun getting back together with people in person. You know,
the COVID hangover is slowly wearing off, and I'm super
excited to see what the automakers put on display. There's
new partnerships, very interested in the Sony Hondamo partnership, some
(13:02):
new video technology coming into the cars that I sure
can't wait to see, and then really having a conversation
with the broadcasters around how we can jointly leverage what's
going on in the cockpit across all of their content types.
You know, so many broadcasters are doing podcasts and in
(13:24):
studio video around their live linear broadcast that there's they're
really they really are becoming a multimedia trusted publisher of content,
and there's no reason why they shouldn't have a dominant
position in the car.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Awesome. Well, thank you for tuning into this in focus
podcast which has been presented by dot fm, streaming social
podcast or broadcast get a dot fm domain aime, but
heading over to get dot fm today from Streamline Publishing's
global headquarters in book Rato in Florida. This is Adam R.
Jacobson on behalf of the team at Radio Ink Magazine
(14:03):
and the Radio and Television Business Report. Have a safe,
invested Holoday season and happy new Year. We'll see you
in twenty twenty five.
This is the RBR TVBR in Focus podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Here's your host, Radio and Television Business Report Editor in
Chief Adam R. Jacobson.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Hello, and welcome to the latest in Focus podcast, which
is presented by dot FM, streaming social podcast or broadcast
get at dot fm domain name by heading over to
get dot fm today. Xberry Corporation Senior Vice President of Broadcast,
Radio and Digital Audio, Joe DeAngelo is readying for a
big CES twenty twenty five, which officially opens on January seventh,
(00:38):
across a wide swath of Las Vegas. In this exclusive conversation,
mister D'Angelo shares a little bit about what's in store
for the broadcast media industry at this year's Consumer Electronics Show,
and he offers hints that DTS, Auto Stage, HD Radio
and T Vote are on track for a big year ahead.
Joe spoke with me for the Winter twenty twenty five
(01:02):
RBR and TVBR magazine, which is distributed in digital format
on January sixth, and at the special VIP only Cocktails
and Conversation reception at CES on January the eighth in
Las Vegas. Let's enter the conversation right now. Okay, so,
Joe de'anngelo. You are the senior vice president of Broadcast
(01:24):
Radio and Digital Audio for Experior. You're based in Columbia, Maryland.
What can you share with respect to experience, upcoming presence
at CES and what the year might bring for some
of its core products, including the DTS Auto Stage, HD
Radio And we can't forget TVO because we are the
Radio and Television Business Report and there's certainly a lot
(01:46):
of excitement there as well.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Great well, Adam, it's great to be with you again.
I can't believe we're approaching CES twenty twenty five, but
it's right around the corner, and twenty twenty four has
been a heck of a year. I'll start with a
DTS Auto stage, which is now supported by over twelve
(02:09):
automakers around the world. Most recent partners to come on
board we're BMW and Mini and the rollout is going
exceptionally well. We're going to announce some very exciting milestones
at the show, so we'll update everyone both in the
automotive and broadcast industry on the number of cars on
(02:33):
the road in the market in all the markets around
the world, which from a broadcast radio perspective, is really
exciting because it's not only generating, you know, delivering a
much better, you know, richer user experience, but also generating
those invaluable analytics. And the more cars, the more insights,
(02:56):
the better you understand your audience. So that is you know,
DTS is progressing exceedingly well. HD radio here in North
America continues to grow. I think we're shipping in just
over sixty percent of all new cars that's sold in
twenty twenty four, and we see that trend continuing with
(03:19):
you know, bigger and broader support from major brands like
Toyota and Ford Motor Company, which is you know, very
exciting to see. We're going into well, we're now midway
through our second decade of HD radio deployment. And on
the TiVo side, I think you probably have seen the
(03:40):
convergence of the TiVo platform from the home coming into
the car. We launched that last year with BMW, and
now that's starting to really scale around the world. And
are people are watching TV in their cars, you know,
whether they're at the charging stations or picking up the kids,
(04:04):
or waiting for a train or whatever it might be.
We're actually seeing this use case really mature and develop
which is you know, very exciting to see and being
where we are in the center stack of the car,
we are the trusted media platform now for so many
car companies.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
You see this as potentially large, and we see this
as interesting because you know, your use cases sound like
evs are really a focal point. But also in the
coming year's autonomous vehicles, so that's something that you know,
we haven't really thought about in terms of what that
(04:43):
could bring. For radio, you obviously have HD radio and
DTS auto stage. And now this is there any concern,
Is there a threat or is this all just part
of the total media mix that will come to consumers
just as they have right now, just in many different platforms,
(05:04):
in many different devices while they're behind the wheel or
in the passenger side.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
You know, I think we're seeing three real trends that
are driving this integration of multiple, multiple media sources and
media types in the car. The first is a real
desire from the automakers to control or at least participate
in the ecosystems around media consumption. And a lot of
(05:32):
the digital platforms that exist, you know, whether it's an
iOS or android or tablet or even in home TV,
don't really allow the manufacturer to participate. So the OEMs
are looking at the opportunity a little bit differently, and
they're saying, how can we design systems in the car
(05:54):
that enable media consumption but are based on business relations
and chips with content providers and platform partners like Expery
that allow them to participate in the economics. So it's
very exciting. You'll hear a lot more about this at CES,
(06:15):
which has become a bit of an automotive show, and
definitely into twenty twenty five. The second thing we're seeing is,
and it may seem counterintuitive, but OEMs are installing more
screens than ever in the car. You know, there was
this period where we had rear seat DVD players and
(06:36):
then as you know, the iPhone and iPads became available,
a lot of those screens disappeared. Well, they're coming back.
You're seeing pillar to pillar screens in the front seat,
you're seeing rear seat entertainment displays in the backseat, and
we're seeing the media being targeted to different screens. So
(07:00):
you're get to see gaining in the rear seat. You're
going to see media control still in the center stack,
but you will see the passenger being able to watch
videos while they're driving. So you know, there's there's this
economic environment that's changing, there's the technology landscape with more
(07:21):
and more screens, and then there's just this proliferation of content.
And what's really driving that is the content owners are
getting much more flexible in how they are granting rights
to basically consume their content on different platforms. The most
obvious is, you know, the big sports leagues here in
(07:43):
the US used to only be able to watch it
on broadcast TV, then came direct TV. Now the leagues
are offering digital packages, you know, direct to consumers. So
by loosening that those restrictions and making content really available everywhere,
consumers are seeking to get the content everywhere they want
(08:04):
to be in a very native user experience. So I
think that's really what's behind it. You mentioned the autonomy.
I think that definitely in play. We saw recently where
Mercedes was granted Level four autonomy in Germany. You know,
that's a huge milestone in terms of the progress of
(08:27):
fully autonomous vehicles. I'm not going to prognosticate as to
when we're going to see that in mass market, but
it's definitely under development. It's got a lot of traction,
and I do think it will come and that will
dramatically impact media consumption in the car.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
With more attention than ever given to CS twenty twenty
five from the radio industry, what do you believe will
be the more exciting talk topics that those cocktails and
conversations gathering that we've had now for at least the
last several years.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Well, you know, looking at it from an experi perspective, obviously,
the progress and the value of the DTS all to
stage analytics, I think it's going to be really material.
We're starting to see broadcasters really talk about or take
(09:23):
action with that data. And we've done a lot of
partnerships in the background with companies like you When, Skyview
and Ben'stown, Jacob's Media to make the whole ecosystems much
more integrated and create efficiencies for the broadcasters. And I
think as broadcasters realize that we've been doing that work
(09:45):
behind the scenes, they're going to be able to get
even more out of their relationships with any one of
those companies because of the ways we're working together and
because of the really the integration points around at least
what we're doing the car. So I'm hoping that the
industry really that begins to resonate with the industry and
(10:06):
they really start to look away to exploit these kind
of collaborations.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Last question for it is about AI because it's been
the big buzz topic and I'm sure CES is going
to have a lot when it comes to AI. But
from your perspective, AI can be a lot of things.
It could be consumer facing, it can be behind the
scenes when it comes to AI and radio on TV
and where you guys sit on your apperch you know,
(10:33):
what what are you really looking to see and what
is expected when it comes to that conversation over the
next year.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
It's a very complex topic to kind of unpack, you know,
because AI can mean such a variety of things to
different people in different contexts of you know, technology and
content applications. I think a lot of the buzz right
now is around generative AI and how to protect consumers
(11:03):
from or at least inform consumers about AI generated content.
There is a ton of regulation emerging around that in
the space that is going to dramatically impact how end
products and services are delivered. You know, there's going to
have to be full disclosure there's a still it's unsettled
(11:28):
around liability and responsibility for providing that disclosure, especially on
aggregator platforms. You know, who actually has the obligation to
inform the customers or consumers about content creation. When we
look at what we're doing, though, a lot of what
(11:49):
we're doing has been traditionally characterized as machine learning, where
you know, we engage with our end customers, we understand
their media consumption patterns, and we use that to develop
a more compelling set of recommendations for content delivery. That
(12:09):
is definitely coming into the car. That's definitely coming in
around our DTS Audo stage platform. But we want to
be very judicious and how we use this terminology AI,
because not everything is AI, and AI is a little
bit too generic at this point to really describe the
(12:31):
technical capabilities at least of our system.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Any other thoughts you want to share.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Just very excited, you know, as always, it's still still
fun getting back together with people in person. You know,
the COVID hangover is slowly wearing off, and I'm super
excited to see what the automakers put on display. There's
new partnerships, very interested in the Sony Hondamo partnership, some
(13:02):
new video technology coming into the cars that I sure
can't wait to see, and then really having a conversation
with the broadcasters around how we can jointly leverage what's
going on in the cockpit across all of their content types.
You know, so many broadcasters are doing podcasts and in
(13:24):
studio video around their live linear broadcast that there's they're
really they really are becoming a multimedia trusted publisher of content,
and there's no reason why they shouldn't have a dominant
position in the car.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Awesome. Well, thank you for tuning into this in focus
podcast which has been presented by dot fm, streaming social
podcast or broadcast get a dot fm domain aime, but
heading over to get dot fm today from Streamline Publishing's
global headquarters in book Rato in Florida. This is Adam R.
Jacobson on behalf of the team at Radio Ink Magazine
(14:03):
and the Radio and Television Business Report. Have a safe,
invested Holoday season and happy new Year. We'll see you
in twenty twenty five.
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