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February 26, 2025 • 32 mins
Crystal "Moon" Robinson joins the episode to share her journey into the writing community and the inspiration behind her work. She discusses "The Change" series, her collaboration with Les Brown, and insights into contributing to anthologies. Crystal opens up about the challenges of writing under pressure and the art of condensing stories, touching on how AI and editors assist in the writing process. She emphasizes messages of health, self-care, and overcoming personal challenges for readers. The conversation explores catalysts for change and details about her book release. Crystal concludes with insights into future projects, closing remarks, and contact information for listeners.
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(00:10):
Welcome to another episode of reading betweenwords.
What does that really mean?
It means that the author themselves
tell you their story.
They tell
you why they wrote it, what they want you toget out of
it, and all the other little details andsecrets that you wouldn't normally get to know.
So let's join in on this.

(00:32):
So today, though, we have Crystal with us.
Crystal, I'm so glad you're here.
I just I enjoy you so much.
So some people may not know who you are.
So let's give him just a little bit of briefbackground of who Crystal Robinson is.
Crystal Robinson is.
Well, I am a lifelong learner.
I'm a mom of two adult children.

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I'm a wife of over thirty years.
I am, a daughter, of course.
Right?
Parents.
I lost my dad, unfortunately.
I am a transformational coach, a national boardcertified health and wellness coach, a Chopra

(01:15):
certified total well-being coach, meditationspecialist, a mechanical engineer for over
thirty years Wow.
A, intuitive energy healer.
I'm also a psychic and a medium.
Those things came later in life.
And I just love helping people.
Yeah.

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And I
love going forward in my purpose.
That's awesome.
And I know you help people go forward in theirpurpose, but you've written a book.
Why did you decide to write this book?
So I've been thinking about writing a book forquite a while.
I actually joined, like, a writing community,and it was I joined the community in the middle

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of kind of in doing other things where I waslearning and doing other certifications.
Like I said, I'm a lifelong learner.
I think I'm always hopping on to some sort ofcourse or something.
And I didn't really dive into it like Iintended to.
So it was kind of just in the background.
But it's been in my mind for a long time, andthen somebody reached out to me about this

(02:20):
book.
It's the change, insights into selfempowerment.
It's a series.
It's an international, fastest growing selfimprovement book internationally with over 20
authors sharing their stories of selfempowerment.
And I had somebody reach out and was like, Ilove your story.
Would you like to write about it and be in thisbook?

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Like, that literally gets me off my butt to goahead and write because I've been thinking
about it for so long.
And when I started writing and I just keptwriting, I was like, this is only supposed to
be a chapter.
I know I have a whole book there.
So Awesome.
That's just awesome.
I love this.

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Okay.
So keep going.
So you have your chapter.
Did you write your chapter?
Yes.
My chapter is written.
The book is currently in publishing, so I can'twait to actually have it in my hands.
But I did
write it down.
This.
Which volume which volume are you in?
22.
20 two.
Okay.
So we've got 22.

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So people know what you're talking about.
This is my book, The Change.
I was fortunate to be in the series that hadLes Brown do the forward on it.
Mine is, I think oh, yeah.
21.
So so right here.
Yeah.
I believe Les Brown is doing the forward for'22 also.
Oh, nice.
Nice.

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Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's wonderful to be a part of something that'sso creative and and giving such value to
people, isn't it?
Yeah.
I also love the connections.
You.
I've met all of these other authors from notjust my series, the 22, but all the previous

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series.
And it's a great community of people.
Yeah.
It really is.
Yeah.
In fact, I've had a couple of people from thechange, one from, volume 21 from '21, now '22,
that have been on on this.
And, you know, the one thing that I findwonderful about anthologies or compilations,
whichever you want to call them, is there areso many different aspects and perspectives of

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the same topic.
You know?
And and it's just amazing to hear thesewonderful insights and the wisdom and the
knowledge they share and the value you get outof it yourself.
Thorough I think that's why I really love doinganthologies.
I just got invited to another one With withWillie Jay, I actually got invited to two of

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them, and it's me versus me.
I'm just talking about self sabotage, which Idiscovered I didn't know I was doing that.
I thought, how could people do that?
And then all of a sudden, I realized, woah.
What did I just do?
And so I repaired it right away because, youknow, I noticed it, like, right away.

(05:20):
And it's like, I didn't know that I was doingthat to myself.
And then the opportunity to write the book, meversus me, came up after that, and it's like,
okay.
Series of events that coincide with each otheris telling me something I need to do.
So The universe is speaking to
you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I call it the spirit of God, but,

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you know Yeah.
All depends on what you follow.
That's right.
You know, I wake up at three in the morning,and I actually have a notepad by my bed.
And on that, if I have an idea, I write itdown.
Sometimes I can just go back to sleep.
Other times, it's like just keeps hitting meand keeps hitting me, and it's like you can't
just let this one sit by the wayside.

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Get up.
Go right.
And so I will.
It's like, well,
I'm awake anyways.
I've had that happen too, specifically becauseof this this book, and I had a deadline.
And it was, like, coming up fast.
And
Oh, wow.
Kind of a funny story that I wasn't given theoriginal deadline when I signed it on.
And I was a little confused.
Like, they had said, you know, six weeks.

(06:24):
You have six weeks.
And then I saw in our group that, oh,everything's coming together.
We're really close.
And I was like, uh-oh.
Wait a minute.
Do I have 16?
Really close.
And it was I think a week or two had gone by,and I was I had started, but it really wasn't,
like, all in.
Yeah.
And so then I reached out and asked.
I'm like, do you know, like, when is it due?

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And he's and I said, I'm I'm I'm really close.
And he's like, I think it's due next week.
And I oh, it's due in a week.
And then I was like, well, I didn't get anyinformation regarding that.
And so he said, let me let me take a look andsee what's going on.
And he called and he emails me back the nextday.
You're in book 23.

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And I said, oh, well, I've already written, andI'm really close to editing.
I'm gonna be sending it to the editor.
Can I just book 22?
And he comes back to me.
Well, I had somebody move from 22 to 23, soyou're in if you want it.
Oh, my god.
Get to me.
Longer that?
So I did it in, like, two, three weeks, fullywritten, and, like, I was up at night.

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I would wake up and, like, I have a journal bymy bed because I write every night before I go
to sleep.
Yeah.
But I would get up and just you know, you wakeup at, like, four in the morning and you're
like, your mind is going.
Just get up and write.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You can't ignore it.
It just is too strong.
Yeah.
That's and and I've heard of other authors whodo that too.
Some are like, are you kidding?

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I can never do that.
And and they're wonderful authors, but it'sit's, you know, something for everybody.
Yeah.
It's a
little different.
So yeah.
So what so here you had planned on writing oryou planned on, you know, someday doing it.
All of a sudden, you've got this task in frontof you.
It has a deadline.

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They say that's usually the best times to writeanyways.
My daughter is amazing at that.
You give her a deadline.
She will wait until just before that deadlineand produce the most amazing things.
I mean, you would think she worked on it formonths, and it's like, no.
I just did it now.
But for her, and some people are the same way,they need that pressure to really get their

(08:30):
creative mind and everything going.
And and it's interesting.
For me, it's like, I think it's just different.
You know?
Everybody has some some way different of doingthat.
So as I was saying in a roundabout way, hereyou are.
You've got this book.
You think you wanna write a book.
You've been given this opportunity to write achapter so you can get started on your book.

(08:56):
How did that go writing it down without goingtoo far, without adding too much, without
making it, oh, I'm just gonna give thehighlights and that's it?
Because I know you.
I know you gave real value into this.
I'm I'm really anxious to get the book now.
I I I ruminated a lot on it at first, you know,because I have been ruminating on what my

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book's going to say.
And I've talked to a lot of, publishers,authors, and, like I said, this writing
community that I'm in.
And a lot of them will say, well, you know, usethis so much to your story.
You could write a bunch of books.
And then when you think about that, you'relike, well, how do I break it up?
It's so connected.
And and then you kinda end up stuck, right, alittle bit sometimes when you think of it that

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way.
And then there was, well, maybe I could justtake one little piece and make something strong
with that, and I would get stuck again.
So I said, alright.
I'm just gonna make an outline of my catalysts.
Good.
And that's what I called my chapter, thecatalysts.
And I kind of made a quick outline of of, like,the just the different time frames, and most of

(10:06):
it's based on my health issues and my bodytalking to me and trying to tell me things and
me not listening.
Mhmm.
Yep.
And it's just and you don't realize it until,you know, you hit rock bottom or you hit, like,
the biggest issue.
And then you really start looking back and, oh,I missed this.

(10:27):
I missed that.
Like, all the way back into, like, maybe yourchildhood if you've had these issues all along.
And that's what I did, and I started kind ofwriting them down.
And I had so much.
I had so much.
And I just said, alright.
I'm just gonna write paragraphs on each ofthese.
Oh.
And I just would write.
And by the time I was halfway through, Ialready had twice as much as I needed for the

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chapter.
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
And I
was like, okay.
I am I am condensing already, and I have tocondense.
So then I had to really look at what I hadwritten and pull chunks out.
Like, yes.
This could come out, and you still will get,you know, the story.
You will still understand what's happening.
There's just a lot of details, a lot of, like,chunks of things that make it even more

(11:17):
powerful.
Right.
That I just kind of pulled out.
And then as I did that and rewrote and rewrotemy sentences to pull out, you know, extra words
when I talk, I talk a lot.
I I say a lot of words, and I write the sameway I talk.
I like people to feel like they're having aconversation.
Oh, that's awesome.
Really, like, be connected to me.

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So there was a lot of words that I was I didn'twanna pull out because I'm like, oh, that's me.
If I pull that out, it just sounds like anybodyelse is writing that.
Oh, yeah.
I hear you though.
I did struggle a little bit with that trying tocondense into a specific box.
And as an engineer, we don't like being put inboxes, but we always are.

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There's always specific parameters that we haveto, you know, work within or circumstances, and
that's kind of what I had.
It was another puzzle to solve, and I solvedit.
I think I did a really good job solving it.
I think you really get a sense of of thetimeline and the things that were really
powerful.

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And when I read my write my own book, it's justgonna be so much expanded.
There'll be all the things that are missinginside that, and you'll get more of me.
Yeah.
And and it's more like okay.
So here's just a peek to insight of what'sgoing on, but you wanna hear the real story.
Yeah.
That's that's wonderful.

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I I, yeah, I like the process that you wentthrough on that on trying to decide what to put
in, what to leave out, but you never wanted toleave yourself out of it.
And that is so important when you're writing.
You can't leave yourself out of it.
Or like you said, it's just like any otherstory, and there's I don't think there's that

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that impact and that, connection, like you weresaying, when you leave yourself out of it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I really wanted to to have that personality.
Yeah.
I I did something the other day I've never donebefore.
I wanted to write a children's book aboutsomething very specific, And I and I thought,

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you know what?
I'm gonna and I didn't know how to do it.
I didn't have an outline.
I wasn't quite sure where to well, I knew whereto start, but I wasn't sure how to go through
it.
So I thought everybody talks about going to AI.
Use that.
So I went in.
I let AI know what I was doing, what I wantedto do with it, and it wrote me out this story.
And I thought, yeah, that's nice, but that'snot the story I want to tell.

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That is it's it's it's a nice story, likesomeone patting you on the head.
That's good.
It's like, nope.
We're not going there.
So what I did is I actually did a much deeperdive with it, and and I told it about all the
emotions and everything else that went throughit.

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And and it's just a children's book, so there'sonly a few words.
I mean, you know, got maybe a hundred words atthe most.
And so as it's going through but what it did,it gave me an outline for yes.
Those are the things I want to cover.
Even though I gave it the outline, they justkind of put it in words in an order for me.

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And it's like, okay.
So now I know how to go.
So I look at that, but I wrote the story myselfbecause as much as I enjoy AR.
AR.
Yeah.
Sorry.
AI for a lot of things.
It can be a good storyteller, but it reallyneeds that emotion and that connection and and

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that feeling of of actually being there.
And that takes the human touch.
In fact, there was you know, after you you geta a reply from AI what, you know, it wants, it
put in there.
And I said, well, it's okay, but you don'treally have the motion.

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And it sent me a sentence back that said,you're right.
A story like this really needs to be written bya human to have that human touch.
And I thought, woah.
Is that freaky or what?
But, anyway I noticed that too.
I've Yeah.
I played a little bit with the AI just on,like, writing some little descriptions and

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things.
Yeah.
I didn't use it in my writing because I wasn'tI was kind of afraid to, like, even use the AI
before.
Yeah.
Like, I don't know what I was gonna do.
Somebody told me to kinda look at it for, like,short things.
So I I would write, like, a paragraph or so ofa description Still, and I pop it in there.
And ask, like, I need this to be moreprofessional or cleaned up.

(15:59):
Oh, yeah.
I need this to have, you know, more of a apersonal touch.
And it would, like, just kinda rewrite the samething I wrote slightly differently.
And then I could look at the words and be like,I don't like this word, and it would give me,
like, three other words to put in.
So this is kinda like, I don't have to grab mythera source and
Yeah.
There you go.

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So I I find it useful for short things likethat, but I can understand, like, that human
connection.
That's only gonna come when it comes from yourbrain and your soul.
Yeah.
Oh, most definitely.
You've gotta have the heart in there.
And and I and I do.
I use AI to help me organize, you know, myoffice or if I'm talking or, my appointments,

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things like that.
Just kinda keep things in order, because itactually has more strength than that than I do.
It's like, I need this in order.
Help me come up with a plan for this week typething.
But to write, it's like, I I won't really useit to write a story.
Again, I just thought it was something I wouldtry, but I might use it for ideas because I did

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have a couple of things that I hadn't thoughtof.
And it's like, okay.
You know?
So but right like you said, writers groups aregood for that.
I know I think I'm in three or four differentwriters group that that I'm in constant contact
with all the time.
And and it's great to get that, insight fromother people, the other and different

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perspective even.
And and they're humans.
They're the ones who are gonna read the story.
So, yeah, it's kind of important that if theydon't like it, you better find out why.
And you can adjust it.
Because sometimes it's just a little adjustmentyou need to make.
So which is great why we have editors becauseeditors can help with that too.

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Even on chapters.
Clean that up and take care
of it.
Yeah.
You know, periods and commas and semicolons andall
that.
Those stuff.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You've got the grammar.
I know what with the giving book I do, we're involume four right now.
In fact, this weekend, I'm gonna be getting ithopefully, getting it all formatted and and
ready to to get out there this week.

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But it's, I don't hire an editor for this book.
So I let everybody know on their chapters, youreally need to have it edited before it gets to
me.
And he says, especially with grammar, I don'tdo that.
You know, I have Grammarly that helps me, thatkind of thing.
But these are are the raw stories from people,and so I don't wanna change what the author has

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said.
I don't want them to lose their voice and whothey are in it.
If I notice a couple words that are misspelledor or maybe they, yeah, left a period off or
put in a question mark when it's like, well,that doesn't make any sense.
It's there.
So but I'll ask them, and I'll let them knowwhat I did.
Everybody gets to preapprove their their storyagain.

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But, that's probably one of the only times Idon't use an editor.
Everything else always use an editor.
Maybe I have couple of them that I use for thesame story because you have the different
perspectives.
And the more eyes on your book, the moremistakes are found to get it right.
So it's it's easy for the reader to read and toreally understand what you're trying to say.

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What the concept of your story telling aboutyour life?
But I know you add value and hope to theaudience.
What what do you want them to get out of yourchapter in that that volume?
Mostly to learn
from my mistakes.
Right?
What I always tell people is, you know, Ididn't learn to listen to my body until it was

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too late.
Yeah.
Every time my body was talking to me, I wouldjust go along and listen to, you know, what
doctors had to say, friends and family had tosay.
I wasn't listening to me.
Right.
Right.
I was letting everybody else's opinions andconcerns rule.

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And that can put you into kind of a victimmentality.
It it brings you into a point where thesickness defines you Right.
As opposed to advocating for yourself andreally understanding.
I I went through a lot of times where I wouldgo to the doctors and, you know, they wouldn't

(20:32):
be able to find anything.
And they'd kinda look at me like I was crazy.
Like, well, you know, my arm is swollen or myfoot is swollen.
It's obviously swollen.
They're like, you well, you must have sprainedit.
You must have twisted it.
Like, no.
I didn't.
I just woke up this way.
What is wrong?
Like, it and it would come to the point where Ifelt like a hypochondriac.

(20:52):
Like, it was like, there was things going onthat they couldn't explain.
And some doctors would just go, oh, it's juststress, which is true.
But you don't get that personal connection whenthey only have fifteen minutes with you, and
they're just treating the symptom.
Right.
They just wanna deal with the swelling or whatis showing, not looking at where is that coming

(21:15):
from.
What is going on?
And so when you read my chapter, I talk aboutthose things, advocating for yourself,
listening to your body, and understanding thatit's not just the things going on with your
body and what you put into it as far asnutrition.
That's a very important thing, nutrition andexercise.

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But your mind, your emotional being, thespiritual element, all of those things really
affect your body.
When you're struggling with traumas, whenyou're struggling with difficulties in your
life, it could be anything between, you know,PTSD from medical trauma.

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It could be from, you know, abuse.
It could be from all these different thingsthat happen in your life from childhood and
through on that you don't really investigate oryou don't really look at, and you shove them
down.
You're just like, nope.
That hurts too much.
Like, you get that knot in your throat of alump and nope.
Nope.
Don't wanna deal with that.

(22:17):
Nope.
I'm not.
And I help people with somatic processingbecause I learned it.
And that's part of it.
Like, you shove that down, and it's gonna comeout in your body in a different way.
Yeah.
And that's where autoimmune conditions comefrom.
And I had a lot of autoimmune conditions.
Mhmm.
And it was based on me really working on mymind and what I thought, what I believed, the

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mindsets, the limiting beliefs, and reallyunderstanding, you know, the things that were
happening outside of me and then takingresponsibility for how I deal with it as
opposed to letting everybody tell me
Yeah.
Yeah.
That really led to the healing.
Yeah.
My sister said to me one time, it's likeanybody can tell you anything they want to.

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They can tell you how to make your decisions,what decision you should make.
But she said it all comes down to this.
You're the one that has to live with thedecisions you make.
So you alone are responsible for it, whetheryour decision is to listen to everybody else or
your decision is to listen to what your ownintuitiveness is telling you.

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My mom was really great.
I I know she got this from her mom to teach usabout listening to our bodies.
Every once in a while, she'd go she goes, well,my body must be missing something because I
just feel like I need to eat an onion today.
And it's so gross.
It's like she would she would just bite into anonion like an apple, and, yep, that's what it

(23:52):
was.
That's like That's some amazing insight thoughthat you had at a young age.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So we we grew up with that to listen to whatour bodies are saying.
My body's been telling me I need to drink morewater.
And it's like, you don't.
You're gonna be sorry.

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And it's like, okay.
I'm listening.
I'm listening.
So yeah.
I really believe
that that's the key to being healthy.
Yeah.
Listening.
Really.
Listening, processing, you know, not chuggingit away and and making your own decisions and
making them with the knowledge that you need,like, educating yourself with what it is.

(24:35):
I really dove into all the things surroundingwhatever diagnosis I was thrown at.
And sometimes you can get lost in that.
Like, a lot of doctors say, you know, stay awayfrom the Internet when it comes to those things
because you can't go down, you know, a rabbithole.
Yes.
Definitely.
Do have to educate yourself and then look,okay, and be curious.

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And that's that's what I got involved in.
I got really curious.
There's gotta be another way.
Yeah.
And and and looking at what's outside of, like,modern western medicine.
Yeah.
What else is happening?
And that's when I got involved with energyhealing and, you know, these classic Chinese

(25:18):
medicine and really looking at nutrition in adifferent way, not necessarily how the
government tells you.
Yeah.
Right?
Not necessarily looking at what one specificnutrition person says or another says because
it comes down to and I I write this in my book.
It's it's it's kind of a quote, I guess, youcould say from my book, that everybody has a

(25:43):
different DNA, including twins.
They have different DNAs.
You are individual.
There is no one like you.
Isn't that amazing?
Your healing is too.
Yeah.
And that includes what you put in your body,how you treat your illnesses, how you treat,
you know, your mind and your emotions, all ofthose things.

(26:06):
That's individual.
Just because it works for one person doesn'tmean it will work for you.
And you have to be creative and and open to
what else is available.
Yeah.
I think it's real important.
The first question we should ask is, how am Italking to myself?
Mhmm.
Why have you been doing to myself lately?

(26:26):
You know?
And and most of us don't think about that.
But what are the words I've been tellingmyself?
Do I need to be more aware of that?
And the reason I say that is how we talk toourselves plays a big part in ourselves,
healthy wise, mental wise, you know, what we'redoing, the things that we keep repeating.

(26:52):
And maybe it's time to stop.
Stop repeating those things and look at usfirst because we're with us all the time.
So Yeah.
We keep lying to us.
The self love is the most important thing, andI think you'll see that in in my chapter.
It's Yeah.
It's kind of showing how I kinda grew andlearned outside of what I was taught Yeah.

(27:16):
Or what I was shown or what I was conditionedto believe throughout my life and then really
saying, oh, you know, it gets to the pointwhere all all other people say this that, like,
it's like when you're on an airplane.
You have to put your mask on before you can putthat on others.
And you tell any mother that, and they're like,no.

(27:37):
No.
No.
It's going on my kid first.
Right?
But that is, I think, when, especially women,get the most broke down.
You're doing everything.
If you're working, if you're a career woman anda mother, and you're taking care of the
household, and you're taking care of thefinances, you're doing all these different
things.
And who comes last?

(27:58):
Yeah.
You.
Yeah.
Because we put ourselves last and we need tostop.
And it's not we have to be more important thananybody else, but it's not.
If you don't put that mask on yourself, you arenot going to be able to help your family or
anybody else.
So give yourself the oxygen first.
Yeah.
Your body will make you take a time out if youhave to

(28:21):
do it on
your own.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Most of
us will.
And this is my story.
This is how it happened to me over and overagain.
I thought I was dealing with it, and then Iwasn't.
And then I got it again.
It was just one catalyst after another.
And and my chapter just starts with literallythe definition of catalyst.
Oh, good.
It's an agent that provokes or speedssignificant change or action.

(28:46):
Yes.
It is.
Now what kind of change or action's takingplace?
Yeah.
That's so cool.
Oh, thank you for writing this chapter, andhurry up and get your book written so we can
get all I know.
I know.
I think that's that's next.
And, of course, I did add on anothercertification, and I'm I'm I just, you know,

(29:08):
signed on to do another, mental healthcertification because I just wanna have all the
tools to help my clients and Yeah.
The world, you know, however I can to basicallylearn the lesson that I learned without having
to go through the things that I went through.
Definitely.
So when is this book supposed to come out?

(29:31):
Plan to have a date.
Last I I heard was it's currently inpublishing, and it could be in out in a couple
of weeks.
So nice.
So I'm assuming it'll be before the holiday.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm pretty sure they're really good about aboutgetting it out in time.
Excellent.
Excellent.
And in order to get the book, will they willpeople have to get ahold of you?

(29:52):
Is that If you want the one with my picture onit, like, as you can see yours as your picture
on it, if you want it with my picture on it,you you gotta get it through me.
If you buy it through Amazon or on your Kindleor anything like that, you're gonna get,
probably one of the publishers who are also onthe book, Jim Britt.

(30:13):
Jim Lutz will be on the cover.
Same chapter is inside, but if you want thebook with me on the cover, which I love, I
think that's awesome, you'll have to get itthrough me.
Excellent.
Excellent.
And where where where do we get it through you?
What's your website?
So my company is called Crystal Moon HolisticHealing.
You can find my website.

(30:34):
It's crystalmoonholistichealing.com.
My email iscrystallee@crystalmoonholistichealing.com, and
you can find me on Facebook and Instagram.
And I'm on LinkedIn as Crystal Robinson.
Okay.
Excellent.
Crystal, thank you so much for sharing yourinsight on your your life.

(30:56):
But, in the book too and and being here, Ireally appreciate appreciate you so much.
Thank you.
I really enjoy talking with you and meeting youand learning from you, and I'm so excited to
see where this new relationship goes because Iam the manager of the book.
Now I know who I can talk to if I havequestions.

(31:19):
There you go.
Yes.
Definitely.
Definitely.
Yeah.
We'll have to get you in the giving book maybenext year.
I think think we're right at the max for thenumber of authors that, I can put in this book
because I'm not it it's just has certainparameters that need to be met each each time.

(31:39):
But, yeah, definitely will get you in the nextone.
And That sounds exciting.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So and if you have questions about aboutwriting a book, our wonderful audience who's
here today and and seeing this on the replay,you can always get a hold of me at l s for
Patrick dot com, and let's talk about whatyou've got going on.
I'm more than willing to help out all that Ican.

(32:02):
And, Crystal, thank you again for being here.
I love your your your spirit of caring aboutother people and and showing them this is don't
do what I did.
This is why and and this is what can help you.
Thank you very much.
Thank you for joining us.
We'll see you next time on Reading Between theWords.

(32:24):
Go to www.readingbetweenthewords.com.
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