Award-winning author and forgiveness coach Katharine Giovanni joins us to share her incredible story of resilience and empowerment. From overcoming a turbulent childhood to surviving stage three breast cancer, Catherine's journey has been nothing short of transformative. She reveals the remarkable ways in which forgiveness and intuition have shaped her life, offering listeners valuable strategies for personal and professional growth. Catherine's insights into managing anger and enhancing interpersonal relationships through forgiveness are a testament to her groundbreaking method, making her an essential voice in personal empowerment.
Katharine Giovanni recounts life-saving moments where listening to her inner voice made all the difference, alongside the societal shifts that have empowered women to trust their instincts over the decades. We delve into her spiritual journey, which includes connecting with angels and spirit guides, and the importance of unlearning outdated paradigms to embrace a broader understanding of spirituality. These conversations are enriched by Katharine Giovanni personal anecdotes, underscoring the healing power of forgiveness and intuition in both personal and professional arenas.
We also explore the profound impact of forgiveness on the forgiver and the forgiven, with Katharine Giovanni sharing touching stories of reconnections and emotional relief. The discussion highlights intuitive practices like Reiki and their role in facilitating healing in complex relationships. Catherine's wisdom is complemented by her encouragement for listeners to cultivate a supportive network of intuitive friends and coaches. Throughout the episode, she emphasizes the importance of recognizing one's worth and trusting one's inner voice, inspiring listeners to embark on their journey toward forgiveness and healing.
Katharine Giovanni is a three-time award-winning best-selling author, international speaker, and Transformation Coach | Empowerment & Forgiveness Guide. She has written twelve books, including her latest, The Ultimate Path to Forgiveness: Unlocking Your Power. Drawing on her extensive experience as a pioneer in the independent concierge industry, Katharine offers profound insights into forgiveness and personal empowerment. She helps individuals break free from life’s challenges and unlock their true potential through compassionate guidance and transformative coaching.
(For those interested, Katharine’s formal business bio can be found at the bottom of this page.)
Who is Katharine?
Katharine Giovanni is dedicated to unlocking human potential through the transformative power of forgiveness, intuition, and resilience. Her latest book, The Ultimate Path to Forgiveness: Unlocking Your Power, offers profound insights into forgiveness and personal empowerment, drawn from her journey through significant challenges, including surviving stage 3 breast cancer and overcoming a turbulent childhood.
Katharine’s journey as a Transformation Coach is deeply intertwined with her extraordinary intuitive abilities. Guided by the past-life insights revealed to her, she helps individuals uncover hidden patterns and emotional blocks that transcend time, guiding them toward healing and empowerment. Her unique approach blends intuitive insight with transformative forgiveness techniques, allowing clients to release the past and step into their most authentic selves. Through this work, Katharine illuminates the path to deeper self-awareness and personal growth, helping oth
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Speaker 1 (00:17):
This is Ready Set Reiki, a podcast about Reiki,
the universal energy life force,from the curious beginner to
the seasoned master teacher,welcoming all systems, all
lineages and all levels.
Reiki is a journey and not adestination, and on this Ready
Set Reiki journey, I refer tomyself as a guide, as I am
traveling, supporting others andlearning on this Reiki journey
(00:37):
as well.
And, with that said, I am yourguide, tracy C Wright, and
joining me on my journey todayis Catherine Giovanni.
Now she is a three timeaward-winning bestselling author
, dynamic speaker, advisor andforgiveness coach.
She is recognized as one of thefounders of the independent
concierge industry, with over adozen published books to her
(00:58):
name, including her populartitle the Ultimate Path to
Forgiveness Unlocking your Power.
She dives deep into thetransformation art of
forgiveness.
Unlike conventional wisdom thatsimply urges you to forgive,
she provides a groundbreakingstep-by-step process in her
latest work.
Now her journey is inspiring asit is enlightening and
(01:19):
surviving stage three breastcancer to overcoming a turbulent
childhood marked by a suicideattempt, she has emerged with
profound insight into resilienceand forgiveness.
Having kept her intuitive giftshidden for years, she now
empowers others to embrace andharness their innate sense.
Now she is dedicated to helpingindividuals and organizations
(01:42):
tap into their full potential,and her approach is refreshingly
practical and deeplytransformating, making her a
sought-after voice inforgiveness, intuition, personal
empowerment and concierge andhospitality industry.
Catherine, welcome to Ready SetReiki.
Thanks so much for having me.
I appreciate it Wonderful.
(02:02):
So let's begin this journeytogether.
So tell us a little bit aboutyourself.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I have been in the business world for most of my
life, since I was in my early20s.
I've written a bunch of books,written a bunch of business
books, and I've always beenintuitive, since I was a kid and
I used to, as a little girl, Iused to talk to myself and then
I'd answer myself and it soundedjust like my own voice.
(02:31):
So imagine my surprise when Idiscovered everybody wasn't
doing it.
It was just me.
And because I was bullied, Ididn't want them to stuff me in
a locker.
So I decided to keep my giftquiet and I was raised.
Remember this was like the 1960sand 70s.
I am that old.
But you know, if you hearvoices in your head, they were
(02:53):
going to put you in the psychward and give you medicine.
So I didn't even tell my family.
I kept it a secret.
For years.
I'd still give peopleinformation, but I'd mask what I
would say.
You know I would.
I would kind of give them theinformation, but they didn't
know where I was getting it andI just sloughed off.
You know if they called me outon it and say, ah, just
(03:14):
experience been doing this awhile, yeah, no, it wasn't
experience, I heard it.
So you know it's.
It's along the way.
I also figured out that aboutforgiveness because of all these
crazy things that have happenedto me and that brings me.
We recently my my partners andI recently figured out the real
trick to forgiveness about twoyears ago.
(03:34):
That's.
That's the happy version of mystory.
I can go into the sad versionof my story with all the crazy
things that have happened to me,if you want me to.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Well, you share what you feel called to share, so
it's perfectly fine.
So you've kept these intuitivegifts hidden for years.
What inspired you to share yourgift with the world?
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Well, when you've been through so many crazy
things as I have, I've alwaysthought I've always been a
writer.
Writing is my happy place.
In fact, it got me throughcollege.
It was awful if there was notan essay question on that test,
because I always pulled out thegrade from the essay.
If there wasn't an essay, yeah,I was sunk.
(04:20):
Yeah, I was sunk, but I'vealways, always loved to write
and I've always thought if mystory just helps one person,
then it's worth writing about.
So I wrote about the time Ialmost committed suicide in the
eighth grade and mydysfunctional family.
I've been clean and sober for34 years, so that's a journey.
You know.
(04:41):
I've survived stage threebreast cancer.
We had money problems and thiscrazy person you're talking to
writes about all of it.
Because I figured out thatgratitude, positivity and
forgiveness really helped toforgive people with the, a
(05:07):
friend of mine said you know yougot to forgive and I don't mind
forgiving people.
How Nobody teaches you, howNobody.
They just say you have toforgive.
Then they say forgive andforget.
No, I'm from New York City.
There's no forgetting here.
Now there might be some unicornperson on the planet that can
forgive.
I am not your girl.
So I wanted to come up with amethod of teaching people how to
(05:29):
forgive, and when I was in my30s, I started to forgive people
, and I'm a serial entrepreneur.
I've been an entrepreneur foryears and the more people I
forgave, the more money I gotfor my business.
I'm a college-educated girl.
This was like 20, 30 years.
Was it really that long?
(05:55):
Well, all right, 30 years.
It was 30 years ago.
And why?
Forgiving something in mypersonal life doesn't directly
affect my bottom line.
Yet it did.
So I did something really crazyIn the 1990s.
You didn't introduce soft topicsinto your workshops.
Well, I did, because I wasteaching people how to be a
concierge and offer five-starcustomer service.
I could teach you the words.
I could teach you what to dressand what to say and all that
(06:16):
kind of stuff.
I could teach you body language.
It's not going to matter a lickif you're angry, because your
anger is going to bleed throughyour body language, whether you
want it to or not.
So I started to teachforgiveness and that's kind of
how it all moved from there,because I wanted I didn't want
them to just forgive, I wantedthem to forgive all of it, and
that's how it started.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Wonderful, and people you know don't understand that
this is vibrational energy.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yes, it is.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
you know, don't understand that this is
vibrational energy and dealingwith that emotion of holding on
to that anger or whatever thatis and letting that go is going
to just be like that hot airballoon that starts soaring up
with your energy, raising yourvibration, letting go of those
things.
So forgiveness is such apowerful tool to have to offer
(07:04):
not only to yourself but to theworld.
So wonderful.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Let me give you a visual and for those listening,
I'm about to hold a very opaquecoffee cup in front of my face.
I'm holding the coffee cup tothe right hand side of my body,
right?
So let's pretend this coffeecup is anger and bitterness and
intergenerational trauma, whichis a huge buzzword right now,
(07:29):
right?
Well, look at my body language,tracy.
I can hold it off to the sidereal easy, super easy.
We can have a conversation.
I can go out to dinner with you, I can go to work Super easy.
But the longer I hold on tothis little bag of grumbles, the
more it's going to hurt.
So now, look at my bodylanguage.
I've got both hands engaged andholding up the cup.
(07:51):
I could still conduct my life,but the anger is starting to
enter my brain and it's startingto control me a little bit
because I'm paying moreattention to it.
Now I'm holding the cup infront of my face, everything's
engaged.
My life is basically stopped.
I can't go.
I can't.
All I'm talking about is anger.
All I'm thinking about is theanger.
Even if I spin the storiesfunny, I'm still.
(08:13):
It's all I'm talking about.
My friend circle has gone downto maybe one or two.
Why?
Who wants to be around?
A negative Nelly who's angryall the time?
I'm also probably getting sickbecause anger is toxic.
And I have science to back allof this up some fun science
studies if you want me to gointo it.
But there's a science chapterin the book.
But the trick is forgivenesswill allow you to put the anger
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down.
So you're going to start tofeel better.
You'll start to pay attention.
Why is money going to increase?
Because you're paying attention.
Now You're going to see yourdream business partner walk into
the room.
You're going to see yourperfect relationship.
You're going to see the perfectway to lose weight and you'll
be motivated to do it becauseyou're feeling better.
There's a reason to buy thebook.
(08:57):
You might lose some weightthere you go, but it's going to
allow you to be the person youwere always meant to be when you
were born.
The anger kind of threw you offyour path and by releasing that
anger and that energy, it'sgoing to get you back onto the
path.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Very good.
I mean, even neuroscientistsexplain how you can hold a
thought for 17 seconds and itwill start to manifest.
So imagine holding that angerfor that long.
You know minutes, hours, days,weeks, years.
You're going to keep attractingmore anger and filling up your
cup.
So you have to let that go andbring in another.
(09:39):
Higher frequency vibration, joy, happiness, right,
enlightenment.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Higher frequency vibration, joy, happiness, right
, enlightenment.
Einstein proved very, very,very clearly that energy is
neither created nor destroyed,it just transforms into
something else.
So when you get angry,everybody on the planet thinks
it leaves your mouth anddissipates into the universe and
goes away.
No, it does not dissipate, itstays in your energy field.
(10:06):
So you're literally, the moreangry you are, the more your
energy field is going to getdarker.
Your vibration, as your body isvibrating.
So your vibration is going toget very dark and you're going
to start to attract like-mindedpeople, not necessarily the kind
of people you want to attract.
You want to attract the loving,fun and light ones.
(10:27):
Well, no, you're kind ofrepelling them because it
doesn't feel good to be next toyou, because your vibration is
so low.
So, to raise your vibration youknow there are all these books
on how to raise your vibration,but you could just start with
forgiving people.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
I'm just saying yeah, so intuitive, since you were a
little girl and you've been onthis journey now for decades.
So what is a commonmisconception about being
intuitive?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
The world has this really nasty habit of slapping
the you're crazy as a bedbugsticker on your forehead the
minute you show a smidge ofintuition, especially in the
corporate world.
They call it hoodoo voodoo,which I think is very
entertaining.
But everybody on the planet isintuitive Everybody.
(11:18):
Even if you don't think you are, you're intuitive.
It's just part of the gifts wewere all given as kids.
I just figured it out at a veryyoung age.
The Little Bird on my Shoulder,which is another book that I
wrote, because I'm anoverachiever, because, of course
, I did right, but the littlebird on your shoulder is always
chirping at you.
It's whether you pay attentionor not.
(11:39):
The little bird saved my lifethree times not that I'm
counting particularly In 2011,.
The little bird said you reallyneed to start to run jog.
I've been allergic to exercisemy entire life.
When you see the word exercisein the dictionary, my name is
not next to it.
(11:59):
So everybody in my family werelaughing at me.
My two sons were hysterical,laughing.
They were teenagers at the time, you know, and so, but I
couldn't get it out of my head.
You need to run, you need torun, you need to run.
The angels and my spirit guidesand it was in my head like I
couldn't get away from it andanybody who's intuitive as I am
it says if you don't do whatthey say, it's gonna.
(12:20):
It's gonna stay in your headbecause it does.
So I took up the couch to 5krunning program.
That's online.
It's a brilliant program, itactually works, and I eventually
ran a 5k and then I went from asize 14 down to an eight Tracy.
I knew the weight was comingoff too fast.
I just knew it and it wascoming off too fast and I found
(12:43):
the lump myself.
I'm a big fan of self breastexams for the women and the men.
Men can get breast cancer.
So for everybody, you shouldcheck.
Everybody on the planet shouldcheck at least once a year,
twice a year.
I did it on my birthday and onthe day before my birthday I
found a lump and it was stagethree breast cancer and the
surgeon said that if I hadn'ttaken up running I'd be dead.
(13:07):
You and I wouldn't be talkingbecause it was in a very, very,
very strange place.
Now people have heard and seenangels.
They've hear things inlife-threatening situations.
A friend of mine was drivingdown a car, was driving home and
she was really tired at thetime and she fell asleep at the
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wheel and just before she wasgoing to hit the cement whatever
it was bridge somebody woke herup and said wake up.
And she woke up and she turnedthe wheel and she lived.
So the trick is we're all weeither hear it, see it, know it
or just feel it.
Everybody can do it.
Everybody has one of those fourways of being intuitive and
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everybody is drawn to it.
So this is not hoodoo voodoo,this is reality.
Imagine if every Fortune 500company allowed their staff to
be intuitive and use their gifts.
Can you imagine what wouldhappen to the vibration of that
company and how much money they?
I'll talk their language howmuch money you would make?
(14:14):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
There you go, wonderful.
So what is a forgiveness coach?
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Some people.
All right, let me back up.
When you hear the wordforgiveness everybody listening
and watching to this programright now on a 10 scale, with 10
being unforgivable and onebeing a real easy person or
situation to forgive y'all arethinking of your number 10
person.
Everybody, 10 out of 10 people,including you.
(14:44):
Everybody thinks about that oneperson that really hurt them,
the boyfriend that ditched them.
It's usually 10s have atendency to be family, so it
could be a sibling or a motheror father, grandfather,
something like that.
I'm here to tell you that youshould forgive your number 10,
(15:05):
but please don't start with thenumber 10s.
I want you to start with theones.
The person who cuts you off inaisle five of the grocery store
you can forgive that person.
The person who got to the gaspump a second before you and you
wanted that spot because yourgas is on that side of the car.
Now you got to drive all theway around to the other side and
(15:26):
there's a line.
You can forgive that person.
The person who stole yoursandwich in the fridge in the
office you can forgive thatperson.
I hope you can forgive thatperson.
These are the things I want youto start with.
I want you to start with theeasy ones and as you get into
the hard ones you're going tostart to feel better, and the
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special sauce to it is always Iwant you to forgive the person
and I want you because we're onready set Reiki, I can't
pronounce it.
I want you to forgive theenergy around the person because
, at the end of the day, that'swhy people don't stay forgiven
is because you forgot to forgivethe energy around that person
and you forget.
You can forgive anything.
People places things.
If you've got a memory, here'san example.
(16:11):
Let's say you're driving towork every day.
Stop at a red light.
On the corner is your grammarschool and they didn't treat you
very well.
Maybe you were bullied.
So you turn your head to theleft and you see the school and
the memories flood your brain.
So by the time you get to work,you're in a bad mood.
What do you do?
Okay, you forgive the school,the energy around the school.
(16:36):
You forgive the desk, the table, the chair, the bullies, the
energy around these things.
So when you go to that andthere's worksheets and there's a
mantra it's all in the book,and I have an audio book too,
for those of you who don't liketo read, but it's going to take
the emotional charge out of thatmemory.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
So when you go to that red light, it's not going
to bother you as much, Right?
And this is just a wonderfulthing to think about for Reiki
practitioners as we're coming inand working with the energy to
invite that forgiveness.
What a difference that clientcould have if they forgive that
energy around them.
So that's just a beautiful andthe Reiki master forgiving the
energy.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
If the client is kind of squirrely and were nasty or
whatever, you know when theyleave, or even when they're
right there, you could silentlyforgive them and their energy,
right there on the spot.
Now, remember forgivenessdoesn't mean that the person
you're forgiving was correct.
They're not.
Forgiveness is selfish.
You do it for you, you never doit for them.
And they're conducting theirlife.
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They're not even thinking aboutyou, which is irritating in and
of itself.
You want them to be miserable,don't you?
Everybody does, but they're not.
They're not even thinking aboutyou.
Okay, that makes you even moremad.
So it's, and it also doesn'tit's.
I've been sober for 34 yearsand when I first got sober,
everybody goes through a programand you're supposed to make
amends and go through yourfourth step and all that kind of
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thing, and they all want you toreach out to the person.
Yeah, no, I was, I am, I wasborn shy and I am an extroverted
(18:22):
introvert because I've taughtmyself to be that way and my
knee jerk reaction because deepdown I'm actually very shy is
not to reach out and callsomebody that I'm angry at.
Not gonna happen.
World.
This is very private.
You don't have to tell anybody.
You can be in the privacy ofyour own home and nobody has to
know.
You do it for you.
You do it, you forgive peoplebecause, basically, you want
them out of your head.
That's it.
You want them out of your head.
You want to stop thinking aboutthem.
Now.
You're not going to forget them.
You're not going to forget thememory, because humans aren't
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capable of that.
But the emotional charge willgo to neutral.
You can go on Facebook and lookat that person and you won't
care.
You'll look at the name andnothing, nothing.
And that's exactly what I'mlooking for.
I'm looking for neutrality.
I want the nothing.
That's what I'm looking for.
That's when you know you'veforgiven them, because you
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really don't give a blank.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Right, right.
I had an experience within thislast year that I got very
frustrated with someone and wemet up and I gave the apology.
That person did not give theapology back to me, but I was
okay with that.
But I'm know, look at thatperson online now and not feel
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that I'm like okay, and I'm ableto follow her and support her
and things like that, so itreally changes it.
It does for your body, but it'snot, you know, erasing anything
or I'll still be cautiousaround that person, but I'm not,
as I'm not angry anymore.
So, yeah, so it's a gift yougive yourself.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Well, just because I forgive you doesn't mean I want
a relationship with youAbsolutely I probably don't.
But I'm not going to bite youwhen I see you casually at a
party.
Sure, you know.
If you do want to bite themverbally, okay, may I suggest
you do another round.
Forgiveness is like an onionand you're not going to get a
number 10 person down to a oneand one sitting.
(20:09):
It's going to take.
It's going to take a couplerounds to do.
You're going to have to say mymantra a couple times.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Right.
So helping others throughcoaching, advising what has been
the biggest challenge, orrather struggle, you have faced
in your own healing journey.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
I think it's a matter of getting people to take what
I do seriously.
I've always looked younger thanI really was, so when I was 18,
I looked like I was 12.
Both my sons are the same way,but they can grow a beard.
My oldest son's in federal lawenforcement and he can grow a
beard when he doesn't haveNobody.
(20:47):
Nobody takes him seriously, butyou know I'm a girl, couldn't
do it, so nobody really startedto take me seriously until I was
like 35 or 40.
And you know, so it it.
That always kind of bothered me,and you know it's having to
hide a gift I was born with alsobothered me.
So I think the biggest struggleI've had most of my life is to
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hear people poke fun at thehoodoo voodoo.
And in my head I'm going butit's real.
Y'all don't know what you'retalking about, but it was the
70s and the 80s and you just youdidn't speak out, you just did.
Now it's 2024 and the youngpeople are listening to me.
Well, you should have spoken up, yeah, in 2024, I would never
(21:34):
let anybody get away with that.
Today it's a completelydifferent world.
I also wouldn't be speaking toa podcaster about this.
I'd be talking about conciergework.
20 years ago was a differentworld, but I think back then
that's what bothered me.
Women really were not takenseriously at all.
You had to use a microphone forpeople to take you seriously,
and even then they wanted to patyou on the head.
So I'm very much a fan of wheresociety has gone.
(21:56):
Now.
You know, young women can nowactually be believed, and that
makes me very happy.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Right.
I mean there was such theoppression.
I mean I was a child of growingup in the 70s and 80s and you
know you were guided into ohwell, you'll make a nice wife.
You know you're going to growup and you're going to be a
great wife.
And you're in school and you'llmake a great teacher, a great
secretary, a great nurse.
Those were the choices right.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Those are the choices I was given too.
Well, you've got to find ahusband and kids.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
I'm a career girl.
Right, you had to go to school,then you had to go get married
and then you're like a seniorand you're not engaged in
college.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
And what do I do?
You're an old maid.
Oh my God.
You're 21 and not married.
You're an old maid, what thehell.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Yeah, and then even as a child, when you have dreams
and you knew things and it'sshush, shush.
We don't talk like that.
And it's.
Then you add on if you grew upin a religious family on top of
that.
No, we don't talk of thingslike that, that's not of God,
that's not the word of God, soyou're always made to feel small
small, less than For the womenlistening.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
This is usually.
This is kind of a male thing,this is a woman thing.
Men don't usually have thisproblem.
I'm not I still not sure why,but they don't.
I think it's just because theworld raises men and women
differently.
But let me speak to every womanout there by saying you are
worthy, we do believe you andyou can do this.
(23:24):
That little bird in yourshoulder has been chirping at
you and you do listen to itoccasionally.
But if you get to a stoplightand you feel you have to go
right instead of left, go right.
I'm going to give you a realrecent example.
Might turn your hair white, butthis is a true story.
We lived in Wake Forest for 18years in North Carolina, north
(23:47):
Carolina, and we finally decidedwe wanted to downsize, but we
didn't know where we wanted tomove, decided we wanted to be in
North Carolina because I'vetaken so many state driving
tests, because I've lived in alot of places.
I was going to have theGuinness Book of World Records
of most state driver's teststaken.
So I put my foot down and saidI'm North Carolina, there's
mountains, there's beach, we canfind something.
(24:09):
So we were very, very close tomoving to Asheville.
Asheville just got destroyed bya huge hurricane, I mean.
And I mean destroyed, yeah, andI kept going and I loved it.
It was beautiful and we lookedat several neighborhoods, but it
just it felt wrong to me and Icouldn't put.
(24:29):
I couldn't put my finger on it,the energy was just wrong and I
wanted to like it and I do didlike Asheville and I could see
myself living in the mountains.
But it felt wrong.
And my husband of 34 years haslearned to listen to me and so
we decided he loves the beach,so we decided to go look at the
(24:50):
beach and we eventually moved toWilmington.
Now I know why it felt wrongwhen we were going to build, a
house was destroyed and floodedand we would have lost
everything.
So when you have that feeling,you could either feel it, you
might just know it, you mighthear words, or you might see it
(25:12):
in your mind.
If every one of you can visionyour childhood bedroom in your
mind, can you see the bed andthe color of the walls?
That's.
Clairvoyance Doesn't mean aStephen King novel.
You're not going to startseeing ghosties.
Oh hello, you might.
It doesn't mean a Stephen Kingnovel, you're not going to start
seeing ghosties.
Oh hello, you might.
It merely means that you areclear seeing and it merely means
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that you see the answer.
You see it online, you see itin a movie, you'll see it on a
sign.
You, just when you ask aquestion, you literally see the
answer and I hear the answer.
Over the years, I've learned todo all the Claire's.
But this is a method.
Intuition is real and it willsave your life if you let it.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Yeah, absolutely Absolutely.
So what do you wish youryounger self knew about being
intuitive?
Speaker 2 (26:03):
I actually wish my younger self knew how to forgive
.
I spent many years being angry.
I spent 20 years being thatteenager.
You know the teenagers I'mtalking about.
You know it's angry.
You have one friend.
You listen to all this hardmusic.
You're draped in black.
But I lived in New York Cityand everybody wore black.
So I'm not sure that's a thingbecause we all wore black.
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But you know, and I was angryat my family and they were
dysfunctional alcoholics.
So that's fair, I should havebeen mad at them.
But I spent a long time,entirely too long, living that
story of survivor.
I've survived suicide.
I've survived the anger.
This is my story.
This is who are you?
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That's very scary.
Yeah, who are you?
I may not have any friends.
Well, you don't have anyfriends now.
So what do you have to lose?
Right, it's a 63 year old metalking to 20 something,
catherine, saying you know,stand up, you know.
But I wish I had known aboutthis power of forgiveness
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because it would have preventeda lot of self-imposed problems
that I had along the way and Iwould have.
I might've had a longer, Imight've had some more time.
My mother finally did get sober,I'm happy to say.
Both my parents did.
My mother got sober.
She fell down a flight ofstairs, broke her hip, ended up
in the hospital and even mymother couldn't get a gin and
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tonic in the hospital.
So she dried out.
We sent her to dry out and youknow, we had three brilliant
years.
We forgave each other, webecame closer than sisters and
she died of breast cancer.
So I spent the next you knowlittle while in deep darkness,
depression, and I wish I hadknown about forgiveness, because
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I could have forgiven her.
I could have forgiven death, Icould have forgiven.
You can forgive anything.
I forgave 1974.
Why did I forgive 1974?
You ask?
Okay, overlooking, thedinosaurs were roaming back then
.
That's the year I tried tocommit suicide and I also.
I was in the eighth grade and Iforgave the bullies, I forgave
myself, I forgave all theplayers in that year, but then I
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forgave the year and the energyaround the year because I
wanted to stop thinking about it.
Now I can dredge up thosememories if you want me to, but
now when I look back at mychildhood, I can look back and
see the love.
I can look back and see thelove.
I can look back and see thelaughter.
I can look back and it's notthat I had.
It was a different childhood.
But I'm now paying attention todifferent things than I was,
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let's say, 20 years ago, when Ilooked back and saw dysfunction
and I saw anger and I saw allthese horrible things.
Now I look back and I see thelove that was actually there all
the time.
So it's not that I've forgotten, it's just that now I'm
remembering different things.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Yeah, and it's what Dr Wayne Dyer always said change
the way you look at things andthe things you look at.
Change.
And what a powerful tool fornow.
I mean, you see more, so muchmore, I guess, just because
social media and where it'sthrown in our face about.
You know these, you know youngchildren who you know take their
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own lives because they're beingbullied.
And when I were in school wewould go to school and we would
go home and we would have thatquiet, but to have that being
followed on social media and youjust don't get that moment of
break.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Oh Lord, if we'd had social media back then, I think
that would have been worse.
I just can't imagine.
I probably would have gonethrough with the suicide.
I just can't imagine.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
I can't imagine Like you would go into school and say
you wore the wrong color onThursday or the wrong color
socks.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Yeah, been there, done that, yeah.
But today you can forgiveanything, if you know.
Let's say you're mad at yourpastor, you can forgive the
pastor.
Let's say you're mad at yourpolitician, your governor, you
can forgive your governor.
You can forgive your state, youcan forgive.
I'm mad about the war in theMiddle East.
Well, forgive.
The war in the Middle East andthe energy around it is, you
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know, just this big thing.
Is it going to help the MiddleEast?
Probably not, but it's going toreally help you because your
energy is going to get better.
Let me tell you, let me throw alittle science in there for the
naysayers who are saying youknow she's out of her mind.
I got science to back me up.
There was a study done by aJapanese researcher named
Masumoto.
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I'm pretty sure that's how youpronounce it and it's right.
On Google you can GoogleJapanese water study Masumoto.
You'll see the pictures and I'mgoing to dumb this down real
far.
In short, he took severalcontainers of water.
One container of water he spokebeautiful, brilliant, loving
things.
To the other container of waterhe said nasty, hateful,
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horrible things.
Then he put it under amicroscope.
The water he said nasty thingsto had this brown and black
sludgy formations.
The water that he spoke love tohad these beautiful crystal
formations.
And why am I telling you thatyour body is almost 98% water?
So if your self-talk is awfuland you're angry and bitter,
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what do you think's happening tothe water molecules inside your
body?
That's why anger is toxic.
You're literally turning yourwater molecules into sludge,
which is affecting your organs.
So by forgiving this, it'sgoing to actually cause you to
be healthier and feel lighter.
Now, when I first discoveredthis method, I like to tell
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people to do this before bed.
Unless you do know a Reikimaster who you can do your
forgiveness and then go pay avisit to this person.
It'll help a lot.
But if you don't do it beforebed, because your body is going
to heal itself while it sleepsWell, I'm an overachiever and I
thought I'm going to get a listof people, and I got a list of
like 50 people and I said thisis going to be great.
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I'm going to do it all at once.
I'm going to feel bettertomorrow.
I'm going to be like abutterfly coming out of a cocoon
and look out world.
I'm going to forgive everybody.
Didn't work out the way Iplanned because I spent the next
three days in bed with whateverybody thought was a stomach
flu, because my body needed toclear those sludgy cells out of
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my body and because I hadforgiven too many, it did the
only thing that it knew to do.
So when you do this process andyou read the system in my book,
please limit yourself to 10 to12 people at a time.
Unless you know a Reiki master,please limit yourself to 10 to
12 at a time and even if you doknow the master, limit yourself
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to 10 anyways, and do start withthe easy ones and work your way
up to the hard ones.
Don't make yourself sick.
This is powerful, powerfulenergy.
I forgave a level one friendfrom high school and it was easy
.
I said my little prayer and I'dforgiven her because it was
like 20, 30 years ago.
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We hadn't spoken in 20 to 30years either, but I thought this
is easy.
I can toss this.
One Couldn't even remember whatwe were mad at, right, hadn't
spoken to her in decades.
Two hours later, she calls meup on the phone and we did.
We made all the right noisesand did all the right things.
Yada, yada, yada.
And I but I'm a curious littlebear.
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And I said, after all thesedecades, why did you choose to
call me today?
She said, you know it was thedamnedest thing.
A figurine you gave me back inschool two hours ago, which was
when I was forgiving her, flewoff my shelf and landed in the
middle of my floor.
And I saw it and figured Ishould give you a call.
So if the forgiveness energyfor a level one person can
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literally move something off ashelf 700 miles away, can you
imagine what it's going to do toyour body for a higher, for a
level four, five, six or even ahigher number?
That's why this is so powerful.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Wonderful.
And for the listeners out therethat are doing Reiki, depending
on what your lineage is, whatsystem you study, level one
tends to be the one of self-giftto yourself.
Touching Level two, let's justsay, whatever system that you're
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in, that you have your symbols.
When you use your symbols, youcan use this, you know your book
as a tool to go back.
Use that distance symbol, usethe mental, emotional symbol to
go back.
So one of the things that I haddone when my father was dying he
was in the ICU and I used theReiki symbols and to go back to
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that time when I was five yearsold, to bring forgiveness to my
dad, to my mother, to myself,because you know, I made was
made aware of a particular kindof violent event that happened
in that time frame and theinformation had come out to me
as my dad was dying.
So I only had so much time withmy dad on the planet that I
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could choose Do I be angry withhim and not visit him anymore,
or do I choose to do somethingwhere I can shift the energy?
I didn't have time to go tocounseling, right?
I didn't have time to do someother things, but I thought this
could help.
This can help me and it reallyshifted things.
So I was able to that very nextday show up at that hospital
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room for him and be there forhim.
So it really.
I really was life changing to dothat, to forgive him, because
it was something he probablyshouldn't have been forgiven for
.
But just think of when hepassed, if I didn't have that
closure right, I would have tobe left with.
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So, yeah, it really shiftedsomething in me so that I could
walk there and be with him, andwhat a gift it was that I was
able to be there with his lastbreath.
You know, he was there with hisfirst breath and you know, and
I was there for his last breath.
So, you know, forgiveness is awonderful thing to bring in and
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I've talked to students thatI've trained and they're like,
but I'm not there, and I says,well, remember, my dad was dying
.
I might not have been there,you know, 10 years before I
wasn't there to in that place toforgive him, but because he was
dying and he only had so muchtime, I needed to do something,
you know, for myself to getthrough that experience.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
So yeah, and for anybody listening whose father
has already passed and you feelyou need to forgive them you can
forgive dead people.
You forgive for you, so itdoesn't matter where they are or
are not and, as a forgivenesscoach, if you're having a real
hard time forgiving somebody, aprivate session with me and I
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will lead you through myforgiveness system, and we might
even touch on a past lifethat's tripping you up, so I'll
lead you through the entireprocess.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Yeah, yeah, and you may not get that, I'm sorry.
And after you may not, no, youmay not.
My dad passed several weeks, itwas probably several weeks
later.
I had a reading with someoneand she said your dad's coming
through and he wants to let youknow he's sorry.
And she said your dad's comingthrough and he wants to let you
know he's sorry.
Oh, how beautiful is that?
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Yeah, I'm sorry, and I thinkjust you know whatever he was
dealing with on the other side,he finally saw it because he was
so sick he wasn't aware that Iwas showing up every day and
everything I had to get through.
I mean, I was living about 25minutes out from Pittsburgh, but
it was a challenge to get everyobstacle, construction, all
these things to get to him, upto his room.
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You know there to see him everyday.
So, yeah, so you, you, you mayget it.
You may get it in this life, oryou may hear it from beyond.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
So you might, you might and you might see the sign
.
I mean, remember, you're goingto either see it, hear it, feel
it or know it, and it's just amatter of you paying attention
and waking up, as people willsay.
But losing the anger is goingto help you hear those messages
or feel them, whatever gift youhave.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
So, when it is time for you to seek guidance, what
qualities do you look for in aspiritual coach, or forgiveness
coach, or someone who'sintuitive?
Speaker 2 (38:33):
I am blessed with to have an inner circle of
intuitive besties.
So when I need help, I usuallygo to Katie or Paula and the
three of us will work on theproblem and because they're both
as intuitive as I am, we'llkind of just work it out and
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we've created a littleneighborhood and we will do
these webinars People we'regoing to be launching.
You'll be able to join them, aswe are.
But I really have always goneto like-minded people.
I'm not very religious.
I never could figure out whyGod really.
I mean, I'm not trying tooffend anybody, but I just
didn't think he cared what I ateon Fridays, that's just.
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I just didn't think heparticularly cared.
So religion, I just neverreally understood it because I
thought, if he's God, why can'the have a conversation with me?
How hard could that be?
And I, in those days I hadn'tfigured out that the person I
was talking to actually wasn'tme.
It was my angels, it was myspirit guides, it was God.
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You can call it anything youwant.
It's your higher self.
You can call it anything youwant.
I don't really care.
And I didn't figure it outuntil I think I was in my 30s
and I turned my head and I sawan angel in the living room.
It's the first and last time Iever actually saw something,
which makes me sad.
But she was right there,standing like in the flesh,
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smiled at me and then she wasgone.
I thought, okay, I'm crazyseeing things now.
So I thought, okay, well, maybeI should start thanking God.
I mean, something's obviouslyhappened to me.
And I started saying thank youGod.
Maybe I should start thankingGod.
I mean, something's obviouslyhappened to me.
And I started saying thank youGod for this and thank you God
for that.
And in my head I answeredmyself you're welcome.
Every time I said it, I thought, okay, I'm thanking myself and
saying you're welcome to myself.
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I still hadn't put it togetherbecause I still trusted my inner
voice, but I just thought itwas me.
I really did, and I finallydecided I'm a college educated
girl, so remember, this wasbefore the internet.
Thank you, that's how old I am.
And so I decided to go toBarnes and Noble and somebody's
written a book about this.
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So I'm and because crazy thingshappen to me on a regular basis
, might I add I went into thebookstore and I'm wandering
around and all of a sudden, thisbook flies off the shelf and
lands at my feet Okay, booksdon't usually do that.
So I walked to the other side tosee who was there.
Nobody was there.
The book literally fell off theshelf at me and there was no
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wind in the store, obviously.
I looked down it wasConversations with God by Neil
Donald Walsh, book one, and ithad just come out.
So I finally I put two and twotogether and came up with five,
and I finally knew exactly whatI had been doing all my life.
And I stood there andremembered giving messages to
people and giving telling youknow, a childhood friend, where
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you see their angels all aroundyou, but thinking it was just me
trying to make them feel better.
I finally realized the abilitythat I had.
So that's really what startedit all.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Wonderful.
So what advice would you givesomeone who's just entering this
intuitive forgiveness work?
Believe.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Everything you've been taught.
With all due respect, um,you're gonna have to relearn.
Yeah, because the world isstuck in a 1950s, 60s paradigm
and it's a patriarchy.
I'm not bashing it, it just itis what it is.
I'm just a fact.
And even business is stillstuck in this kind of 1950s
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patriarchal thing.
And school in the 1960s and 70s, when I was in school they're
teaching everybody the same.
It's 2024.
They're still teaching the samethings, with the desks in the
same row and the same classes.
It's nuts.
I'm in my 60s.
We shouldn't be doing it likethis.
So there's a lot more to lifethan what you've been taught.
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There's a whole nother worldout there beyond the veil, and
they've been trying to reach you.
Your angels have been trying toreach you.
Everybody is born with twoangels, one on their left and
their right hand side, and it'slike the law of gravity.
The law of gravity is going towork, whether you believe in it
or not.
We can call the law of keepingTracy on the planet.
It doesn't care, it's stillgoing to work.
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Okay, I don't believe in thelaw of gravity.
It still doesn't care, it'sstill going to work.
So you don't believe in angels,but there's one on the right
side and the left side of yourbody and they will be there to
the day you die at, whether youbelieve it in or and they want
to help you and they can'tunless you say it out loud
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Angels, please help me.
If you're in a public place, Iusually whisper it because
people think you're crazy.
But you know all this help isavailable to you.
So if you're just at thebeginning of your journey, I
suggest you try doing someguided writing.
Get a pen and a piece of paper,and I want you try doing some
guided writing.
Get a pen and a piece of paperand I want you to turn off all
your technology.
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Did you know that phones havean off button?
Crazy, right, they have an offbutton.
They also have a mute button.
You can mute it.
I want you to either turn itoff.
I actually said this tosomebody a few weeks back.
The color drained from her face.
She said oh no, I could neverturn it off.
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I mean she, she literallystarted shaking in front of me,
so it was actually veryentertaining.
Yeah, so yeah, no, you can muteit or make it vibrate.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
I don't care.
Yeah, you tell your kidsdisturb.
And my kids figured out that ifyou call it twice you can do
the do not disturb.
And my kids figured out thereyou go, if you call it twice,
it'll bypass the do not disturb.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
Oh, smart kids.
Yeah, you got some smart ones.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
I got some smart ones .
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Yeah, but I want you to ask a question and then,
whatever forms in your mind, Iwant you to write it down.
It could be a vision.
You could be seeing something.
Write down what you see.
It could be a color.
You could hear something.
Maybe you'll hear some words.
Maybe you'll hear the words ofa song.
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Write down the lyrics.
Write down the words.
Maybe you'll just feelsomething All of a sudden.
You'll feel happiness or joy,or you'll feel something in your
body.
Write it down and before youknow it, you'll be having a
conversation.
You'll be talking to thatlittle bird on your shoulder.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
Very good, so what books do you recommend?
Speaker 2 (45:00):
I actually you can buy.
I have all sorts of books onAmazon the Little Bird on your
Shoulder, my book, the UltimatePath to Forgiveness.
But I also suggest you go outand purchase Shower Blessings by
Dr Katie Nall, because if youare one of those people that
doesn't know how to meditate andit's a tiny, tiny little book I
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mean it's a tiny little book,but Shower Blessings if you
don't know how to meditate,that's the book to get.
I recommend it to everybody andit's a quick read, beautiful.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
So what other services and modalities do you
offer?
Do you offer trainings, classes, events?
Speaker 2 (45:37):
Well, I am a forgiveness coach and what that
means is if you're havingtrouble forgiving you've read
the book and you just can'tforgive your number 10s or
something you do a session withme and I'm going to pick at it
and I'll get you going.
I'm also a medium and a pastlife healer.
So the angels show me what lifeis tripping you up the most in
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this lifetime.
And I tell you a quick story.
My oldest son called me up at 3o'clock in the morning and he
was really upset.
He said, mom, I can't sleep.
I've tried everything, I'vetried medication, I've tried all
the sleep apps.
He said he tried everything.
He couldn't sleep and it hadbeen going on for like a week or
two.
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And he said I understandsuicide and depression now
because I'm at the end of myrope.
He was really upset so I didn'tknow I could do this.
It was a bunch of years ago.
So all of a sudden I got thisvision of a sheriff of a town
who was lying in bed and he wasnext to his wife and it was the
day before Easter.
She was stepping out on himhaving an affair with somebody
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in the town and she smotheredhim with his pillow in the town
and she smothered him with hispillow Wow, and he died.
And as soon as I revealed thatlife to him and we talked about
it and then we forgave all theplayers Johnny on the spot,
because I can do it verbally aswell as I can write it, so I've
heard we verbally forgaveeverything.
He started to sleep through thenight and he started to go out
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with people because he didn'ttrust women.
Can you blame him?
So I can.
I'm usually revealing the lifethat's tripping you up the most.
Maybe you're scared of heights,maybe you're having trouble
with relationships, maybe itcould be anything, but they will
always reveal the life that'stripping you up the most
intergenerational trauma.
There's a buzzword everybody'stalking about we will forgive
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everybody in that lifetime,because energy is neither
created nor destroyed.
So the energy that you had inthat past life that was so
traumatic follows you into thislife and that's where
forgiveness takes an entirelydifferent.
It's like a different breed ofcat at this point, isn't it?
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That's where the energy is so,so, so critical.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
Well, where can we?
Speaker 2 (47:54):
find you.
You can go toCatherineGiovannicom and
Catherine, thanks to my motheris spelled a little bit odd.
Thanks, mom, k-a-t-h-a-r-i-n-eGiovannicom.
You can also go to Amazon forall my books and the Little Bird
on your Shoulder and myForgiveness book Both have audio
books because, I do understand,not everybody likes to read, so
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the audio book is alsoavailable.
If you join Audible, I thinkit's free.
I saw it free on Audible awhile back, so you might want to
check that out.
You might be able to get it forfree.
Speaker 1 (48:24):
Beautiful.
All right, that ends our firstpart of our journey together,
and I'm going to continue on asyour guide into the next part,
which is questions from socialmedia and our listeners.
So here we go.
Number one what inspired you towrite the Ultimate Path to
Forgiveness, unlocking yourPower?
Speaker 2 (48:44):
I wanted to help people find the peace that I had
found, and I understood thatthis method of forgiveness is
new and nobody had ever heard ofit before, and our world is in
such a state of hate andnegativity right now.
Any tiny little path I cancarve out for people, it's my
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honor to help.
It's my honor to help, so Icouldn't have kept this quiet if
you paid me to do it, and Ilove to write, it's my happy
place.
This is the first book of three, so there are, if I can get to
my computer, there are two morecoming after this.
Speaker 1 (49:22):
Oh, wonderful, wonderful.
Number two I am currentlydealing with breast cancer as a
surviving stage three breastcancer survivor.
What advice can you give me asI move forward in my healing
journey?
Speaker 2 (49:37):
The mind is a powerful instrument.
When I got cancer I don't thinkthey do it today, but when I
came down with cancer, they sendyou to chemo class and I was in
this airless little room andthe nurse ratchet at the front.
She was awful.
She started telling meeverything bad was going to
happen, all the side effectsfrom chemo and radiation and how
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sick I was going to get and theinfections I was going to get.
She didn't tell me anythingpositive.
She didn't tell me what to eat,what to think, what to do.
My brain snapped.
So I walked to the front of theroom when the class was over
and I said I'm not going to getas sick as everybody else.
She looked at me and I live inthe South.
She said oh honey, you're goingto get all these things.
I said no, I'm not Fast forwarda year.
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She comes up to me in thehallway.
She says Mrs Giovanni, what areyou doing?
Walking down the hall I had noidea what she was talking about.
She said what are you eatingand doing?
Because you didn't get as sickas we expected you to.
And I looked at her and I saidremember a year ago when I told
you I wasn't going to.
The mind is a powerful thing.
Now I'm a clean eater, Ichanged my diet, started to
exercise, but I kept a positiveattitude.
And positivity is like taking ashower you have to do it every
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day and sometimes when you'rethat sick and that much pain I
mean I was in a lot of pain.
It's a minute by minute choice,but I kind of thought the
cancer was a terrorist and I wasgoing to be damned if I was
going to let the cancer win.
So I kept a positive attitudeand I just kind of kept my.
I forgave everything as much asI could and I just kind of kept
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myself in that positive mindspace and when somebody tried to
bring it down, I literallyignored them.
And your mind is so powerful,it's a real healing vessel.
So keep your mind really really, really straight and stay
positive, because it's going tohelp a lot.
Speaker 1 (51:30):
Wonderful.
Thank you for that advice.
So, as a three-timeaward-winning bestselling author
with over a dozen publishedbooks, what advice would you
give someone who wants to writea book?
Speaker 2 (51:44):
Ah, that's a fun.
That's a fun topic.
Everybody thinks you have tocome up with the title of the
book and then you have to startwith chapter one and go to
chapter two and go to chapterthree.
Poppycock, I want you to justsit down and write and you just.
I wrote, I wrote.
I wrote a book called Rainbowsand Banana Peels about my cancer
journey and I wrote it on mycell phone because of thought
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would come into my head and I'demail myself my thought and then
, after I got a bunch ofthoughts, it turned into a book.
So just start writing and thethought that you're writing
could end up in the middle ofthe book.
It could end up at the end ofthe book, it doesn't matter at
the end of the day, because whenyou think you're finished, then
you can put all your thoughtsand all your pages into the
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order it needs to be.
So just start writing and ifpeople try and say you can't
write or anything like that,literally turn your brain off.
Don't listen to them.
Everybody could write a bookand don't worry about who's
going to print the book.
All my books are self-published,believe it or not.
We formed our own publishingcompany because we are that
(52:47):
stupid and we have a hightolerance to pain.
Yeah, that had when I startedthe association.
I try and talk people out ofdoing that too.
That's, that's really painful.
But you know, I I think that ifyou want to write a book, just
start writing and everything isjust going to kind of flow and
then when you think you'refinished, then you figure out
(53:07):
how you're going to get itpublished.
But for now don't even thinkabout it, just start writing.
Speaker 1 (53:12):
Beautiful, beautiful.
Well, that was our lastquestion, and, as we've been
talking, is there something thatyou may have forgotten to share
or something you feel called toshare with our listeners?
Speaker 2 (53:25):
You can take that time now.
The floor is yours.
I think I just want people toknow that they can do this.
They can live a life of joy.
I ask a lot of people whatbrings you joy?
And it would make you very sadif I told you.
Only eight out of 10 peopleanswer the question.
Most people can't answer thequestion.
They'll look at me and say,well, I enjoy reading or I enjoy
going on vacation.
Okay, that's fine.
(53:46):
But what if you want to go onvacation 24-7?
That feeling brings you joy.
What is you doing in your lifethat's not bringing you joy?
We'll have to work from nine tofive.
Okay, let's talk about that.
What could you do that wouldbring you more joy?
You can live a life of joy andstill make money.
You can live a joy of happinessand it's a question of joy and
(54:06):
still make money.
You can live a joy of happinessand it's a question of
listening to that little bird onyour shoulder.
If you get to a stoplight andit says go right instead of left
, go right.
You may never know why you weresupposed to go right, but you
probably avoided an accident orsomething horrible or a
hurricane going throughAsheville like I did, true story
, but it's a question of reallytrusting your gut.
(54:27):
You can live the life that youwant, so forgive what you can.
I'm not meaning to bash anycoaches out there, but a lot of
us used to talk about that wall.
It's time to break through thatwall.
Here are the tools I'm going togive you tools to help you
break through that wall.
Are the tools I'm going to giveyou tools to help you break
(54:49):
through that wall?
Okay, let's stop that right now.
Pull out a few bricks out ofthe wall, walk around the thing,
keep going, circle back whenyou can.
If you can't circle back, it'sokay, keep going.
You know the person thatyourself is often the hardest
person to forgive, and I forgavemyself, and my 20-year-old
(55:10):
Catherine is different than60-year-old Catherine and she
created a persona that sheneeded to in order to survive.
Right, and I can forgive thatperson.
In the Bible, I am notreligious by any means, but
there is one passage that getsme there.
It's how I forgave my parents.
Jesus is up on the cross and hesays forgive them, father.
(55:31):
They know not what they do.
So that says, if you're in thefifth grade and you don't know
calculus, I can't get mad at youbecause you haven't learned it
yet.
So my parents did the best theycould with the tools they could
they had.
Was it good enough?
Of course not.
They could with the tools theycould they had.
Was it good enough?
Of course not.
But they did their best andthat, combined with some Simone
Biles level mental gymnastics,gets me to forgiveness.
(55:53):
And you can do the same thingfor yourself.
Be kind to yourself, becauseyou had to be that person.
But you're not that persontoday and even if you're
surrounded by people who thinkyou're still that person, you're
not that person.
We believe you, we know you cando this, so just start.
Tomorrow's a brand new day.
Start.
You have nothing to lose andeverything to gain.
Speaker 1 (56:16):
Very good, all right, catherine.
That ends our journey together.
So thank you so much for takingtime out of your very busy
schedule to come on this ReadySet Reiki journey with me.
Speaker 2 (56:27):
Oh, my pleasure.
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (56:29):
Thank you, and thank you for sharing your intuitive
gifts, being so brave and bold,with the world, and
congratulations on your sobriety.
That's wonderful oh thank you.
Wonderful and with your being abreast cancer survivor
Wonderful and with your being abreast cancer survivor and you
know, here you are everythingthat you've been through and
(56:49):
you're still helping and being aservice to others.
So thank you for that.
Speaker 2 (56:52):
My pleasure.
Speaker 1 (56:53):
All right, my wonderful listeners, if you
would like your questionfeatured on the show, reach out
wwwreadysetrickycom.
Also, check out Feather Sisterthat offers a variety of Reiki
trainings and yoga classes inperson, el Paso, texas, or
online.
I'm Tracy Seawright and thishas been Ready Set Reiki you.
This is Ready Set Reiki, a podcast about Reiki,
the universal energy life force,from the curious beginner to
the seasoned master teacher,welcoming all systems, all
lineages and all levels.
Reiki is a journey and not adestination, and on this Ready
Set Reiki journey, I refer tomyself as a guide, as I am
traveling, supporting others andlearning on this Reiki journey
(00:37):
as well.
And, with that said, I am yourguide, tracy C Wright, and
joining me on my journey todayis Catherine Giovanni.
Now she is a three timeaward-winning bestselling author
, dynamic speaker, advisor andforgiveness coach.
She is recognized as one of thefounders of the independent
concierge industry, with over adozen published books to her
(00:58):
name, including her populartitle the Ultimate Path to
Forgiveness Unlocking your Power.
She dives deep into thetransformation art of
forgiveness.
Unlike conventional wisdom thatsimply urges you to forgive,
she provides a groundbreakingstep-by-step process in her
latest work.
Now her journey is inspiring asit is enlightening and
(01:19):
surviving stage three breastcancer to overcoming a turbulent
childhood marked by a suicideattempt, she has emerged with
profound insight into resilienceand forgiveness.
Having kept her intuitive giftshidden for years, she now
empowers others to embrace andharness their innate sense.
Now she is dedicated to helpingindividuals and organizations
(01:42):
tap into their full potential,and her approach is refreshingly
practical and deeplytransformating, making her a
sought-after voice inforgiveness, intuition, personal
empowerment and concierge andhospitality industry.
Catherine, welcome to Ready SetReiki.
Thanks so much for having me.
I appreciate it Wonderful.
(02:02):
So let's begin this journeytogether.
So tell us a little bit aboutyourself.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I have been in the business world for most of my
life, since I was in my early20s.
I've written a bunch of books,written a bunch of business
books, and I've always beenintuitive, since I was a kid and
I used to, as a little girl, Iused to talk to myself and then
I'd answer myself and it soundedjust like my own voice.
(02:31):
So imagine my surprise when Idiscovered everybody wasn't
doing it.
It was just me.
And because I was bullied, Ididn't want them to stuff me in
a locker.
So I decided to keep my giftquiet and I was raised.
Remember this was like the 1960sand 70s.
I am that old.
But you know, if you hearvoices in your head, they were
(02:53):
going to put you in the psychward and give you medicine.
So I didn't even tell my family.
I kept it a secret.
For years.
I'd still give peopleinformation, but I'd mask what I
would say.
You know I would.
I would kind of give them theinformation, but they didn't
know where I was getting it andI just sloughed off.
You know if they called me outon it and say, ah, just
(03:14):
experience been doing this awhile, yeah, no, it wasn't
experience, I heard it.
So you know it's.
It's along the way.
I also figured out that aboutforgiveness because of all these
crazy things that have happenedto me and that brings me.
We recently my my partners andI recently figured out the real
trick to forgiveness about twoyears ago.
(03:34):
That's.
That's the happy version of mystory.
I can go into the sad versionof my story with all the crazy
things that have happened to me,if you want me to.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Well, you share what you feel called to share, so
it's perfectly fine.
So you've kept these intuitivegifts hidden for years.
What inspired you to share yourgift with the world?
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Well, when you've been through so many crazy
things as I have, I've alwaysthought I've always been a
writer.
Writing is my happy place.
In fact, it got me throughcollege.
It was awful if there was notan essay question on that test,
because I always pulled out thegrade from the essay.
If there wasn't an essay, yeah,I was sunk.
(04:20):
Yeah, I was sunk, but I'vealways, always loved to write
and I've always thought if mystory just helps one person,
then it's worth writing about.
So I wrote about the time Ialmost committed suicide in the
eighth grade and mydysfunctional family.
I've been clean and sober for34 years, so that's a journey.
You know.
(04:41):
I've survived stage threebreast cancer.
We had money problems and thiscrazy person you're talking to
writes about all of it.
Because I figured out thatgratitude, positivity and
forgiveness really helped toforgive people with the, a
(05:07):
friend of mine said you know yougot to forgive and I don't mind
forgiving people.
How Nobody teaches you, howNobody.
They just say you have toforgive.
Then they say forgive andforget.
No, I'm from New York City.
There's no forgetting here.
Now there might be some unicornperson on the planet that can
forgive.
I am not your girl.
So I wanted to come up with amethod of teaching people how to
(05:29):
forgive, and when I was in my30s, I started to forgive people
, and I'm a serial entrepreneur.
I've been an entrepreneur foryears and the more people I
forgave, the more money I gotfor my business.
I'm a college-educated girl.
This was like 20, 30 years.
Was it really that long?
(05:55):
Well, all right, 30 years.
It was 30 years ago.
And why?
Forgiving something in mypersonal life doesn't directly
affect my bottom line.
Yet it did.
So I did something really crazyIn the 1990s.
You didn't introduce soft topicsinto your workshops.
Well, I did, because I wasteaching people how to be a
concierge and offer five-starcustomer service.
I could teach you the words.
I could teach you what to dressand what to say and all that
(06:16):
kind of stuff.
I could teach you body language.
It's not going to matter a lickif you're angry, because your
anger is going to bleed throughyour body language, whether you
want it to or not.
So I started to teachforgiveness and that's kind of
how it all moved from there,because I wanted I didn't want
them to just forgive, I wantedthem to forgive all of it, and
that's how it started.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Wonderful, and people you know don't understand that
this is vibrational energy.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yes, it is.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
you know, don't understand that this is
vibrational energy and dealingwith that emotion of holding on
to that anger or whatever thatis and letting that go is going
to just be like that hot airballoon that starts soaring up
with your energy, raising yourvibration, letting go of those
things.
So forgiveness is such apowerful tool to have to offer
(07:04):
not only to yourself but to theworld.
So wonderful.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Let me give you a visual and for those listening,
I'm about to hold a very opaquecoffee cup in front of my face.
I'm holding the coffee cup tothe right hand side of my body,
right?
So let's pretend this coffeecup is anger and bitterness and
intergenerational trauma, whichis a huge buzzword right now,
(07:29):
right?
Well, look at my body language,tracy.
I can hold it off to the sidereal easy, super easy.
We can have a conversation.
I can go out to dinner with you, I can go to work Super easy.
But the longer I hold on tothis little bag of grumbles, the
more it's going to hurt.
So now, look at my bodylanguage.
I've got both hands engaged andholding up the cup.
(07:51):
I could still conduct my life,but the anger is starting to
enter my brain and it's startingto control me a little bit
because I'm paying moreattention to it.
Now I'm holding the cup infront of my face, everything's
engaged.
My life is basically stopped.
I can't go.
I can't.
All I'm talking about is anger.
All I'm thinking about is theanger.
Even if I spin the storiesfunny, I'm still.
(08:13):
It's all I'm talking about.
My friend circle has gone downto maybe one or two.
Why?
Who wants to be around?
A negative Nelly who's angryall the time?
I'm also probably getting sickbecause anger is toxic.
And I have science to back allof this up some fun science
studies if you want me to gointo it.
But there's a science chapterin the book.
But the trick is forgivenesswill allow you to put the anger
(08:37):
down.
So you're going to start tofeel better.
You'll start to pay attention.
Why is money going to increase?
Because you're paying attention.
Now You're going to see yourdream business partner walk into
the room.
You're going to see yourperfect relationship.
You're going to see the perfectway to lose weight and you'll
be motivated to do it becauseyou're feeling better.
There's a reason to buy thebook.
(08:57):
You might lose some weightthere you go, but it's going to
allow you to be the person youwere always meant to be when you
were born.
The anger kind of threw you offyour path and by releasing that
anger and that energy, it'sgoing to get you back onto the
path.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Very good.
I mean, even neuroscientistsexplain how you can hold a
thought for 17 seconds and itwill start to manifest.
So imagine holding that angerfor that long.
You know minutes, hours, days,weeks, years.
You're going to keep attractingmore anger and filling up your
cup.
So you have to let that go andbring in another.
(09:39):
Higher frequency vibration, joy, happiness, right,
enlightenment.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Higher frequency vibration, joy, happiness, right
, enlightenment.
Einstein proved very, very,very clearly that energy is
neither created nor destroyed,it just transforms into
something else.
So when you get angry,everybody on the planet thinks
it leaves your mouth anddissipates into the universe and
goes away.
No, it does not dissipate, itstays in your energy field.
(10:06):
So you're literally, the moreangry you are, the more your
energy field is going to getdarker.
Your vibration, as your body isvibrating.
So your vibration is going toget very dark and you're going
to start to attract like-mindedpeople, not necessarily the kind
of people you want to attract.
You want to attract the loving,fun and light ones.
(10:27):
Well, no, you're kind ofrepelling them because it
doesn't feel good to be next toyou, because your vibration is
so low.
So, to raise your vibration youknow there are all these books
on how to raise your vibration,but you could just start with
forgiving people.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
I'm just saying yeah, so intuitive, since you were a
little girl and you've been onthis journey now for decades.
So what is a commonmisconception about being
intuitive?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
The world has this really nasty habit of slapping
the you're crazy as a bedbugsticker on your forehead the
minute you show a smidge ofintuition, especially in the
corporate world.
They call it hoodoo voodoo,which I think is very
entertaining.
But everybody on the planet isintuitive Everybody.
(11:18):
Even if you don't think you are, you're intuitive.
It's just part of the gifts wewere all given as kids.
I just figured it out at a veryyoung age.
The Little Bird on my Shoulder,which is another book that I
wrote, because I'm anoverachiever, because, of course
, I did right, but the littlebird on your shoulder is always
chirping at you.
It's whether you pay attentionor not.
(11:39):
The little bird saved my lifethree times not that I'm
counting particularly In 2011,.
The little bird said you reallyneed to start to run jog.
I've been allergic to exercisemy entire life.
When you see the word exercisein the dictionary, my name is
not next to it.
(11:59):
So everybody in my family werelaughing at me.
My two sons were hysterical,laughing.
They were teenagers at the time, you know, and so, but I
couldn't get it out of my head.
You need to run, you need torun, you need to run.
The angels and my spirit guidesand it was in my head like I
couldn't get away from it andanybody who's intuitive as I am
it says if you don't do whatthey say, it's gonna.
(12:20):
It's gonna stay in your headbecause it does.
So I took up the couch to 5krunning program.
That's online.
It's a brilliant program, itactually works, and I eventually
ran a 5k and then I went from asize 14 down to an eight Tracy.
I knew the weight was comingoff too fast.
I just knew it and it wascoming off too fast and I found
(12:43):
the lump myself.
I'm a big fan of self breastexams for the women and the men.
Men can get breast cancer.
So for everybody, you shouldcheck.
Everybody on the planet shouldcheck at least once a year,
twice a year.
I did it on my birthday and onthe day before my birthday I
found a lump and it was stagethree breast cancer and the
surgeon said that if I hadn'ttaken up running I'd be dead.
(13:07):
You and I wouldn't be talkingbecause it was in a very, very,
very strange place.
Now people have heard and seenangels.
They've hear things inlife-threatening situations.
A friend of mine was drivingdown a car, was driving home and
she was really tired at thetime and she fell asleep at the
(13:28):
wheel and just before she wasgoing to hit the cement whatever
it was bridge somebody woke herup and said wake up.
And she woke up and she turnedthe wheel and she lived.
So the trick is we're all weeither hear it, see it, know it
or just feel it.
Everybody can do it.
Everybody has one of those fourways of being intuitive and
(13:53):
everybody is drawn to it.
So this is not hoodoo voodoo,this is reality.
Imagine if every Fortune 500company allowed their staff to
be intuitive and use their gifts.
Can you imagine what wouldhappen to the vibration of that
company and how much money they?
I'll talk their language howmuch money you would make?
(14:14):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
There you go, wonderful.
So what is a forgiveness coach?
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Some people.
All right, let me back up.
When you hear the wordforgiveness everybody listening
and watching to this programright now on a 10 scale, with 10
being unforgivable and onebeing a real easy person or
situation to forgive y'all arethinking of your number 10
person.
Everybody, 10 out of 10 people,including you.
(14:44):
Everybody thinks about that oneperson that really hurt them,
the boyfriend that ditched them.
It's usually 10s have atendency to be family, so it
could be a sibling or a motheror father, grandfather,
something like that.
I'm here to tell you that youshould forgive your number 10,
(15:05):
but please don't start with thenumber 10s.
I want you to start with theones.
The person who cuts you off inaisle five of the grocery store
you can forgive that person.
The person who got to the gaspump a second before you and you
wanted that spot because yourgas is on that side of the car.
Now you got to drive all theway around to the other side and
(15:26):
there's a line.
You can forgive that person.
The person who stole yoursandwich in the fridge in the
office you can forgive thatperson.
I hope you can forgive thatperson.
These are the things I want youto start with.
I want you to start with theeasy ones and as you get into
the hard ones you're going tostart to feel better, and the
(15:49):
special sauce to it is always Iwant you to forgive the person
and I want you because we're onready set Reiki, I can't
pronounce it.
I want you to forgive theenergy around the person because
, at the end of the day, that'swhy people don't stay forgiven
is because you forgot to forgivethe energy around that person
and you forget.
You can forgive anything.
People places things.
If you've got a memory, here'san example.
(16:11):
Let's say you're driving towork every day.
Stop at a red light.
On the corner is your grammarschool and they didn't treat you
very well.
Maybe you were bullied.
So you turn your head to theleft and you see the school and
the memories flood your brain.
So by the time you get to work,you're in a bad mood.
What do you do?
Okay, you forgive the school,the energy around the school.
(16:36):
You forgive the desk, the table, the chair, the bullies, the
energy around these things.
So when you go to that andthere's worksheets and there's a
mantra it's all in the book,and I have an audio book too,
for those of you who don't liketo read, but it's going to take
the emotional charge out of thatmemory.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
So when you go to that red light, it's not going
to bother you as much, Right?
And this is just a wonderfulthing to think about for Reiki
practitioners as we're coming inand working with the energy to
invite that forgiveness.
What a difference that clientcould have if they forgive that
energy around them.
So that's just a beautiful andthe Reiki master forgiving the
energy.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
If the client is kind of squirrely and were nasty or
whatever, you know when theyleave, or even when they're
right there, you could silentlyforgive them and their energy,
right there on the spot.
Now, remember forgivenessdoesn't mean that the person
you're forgiving was correct.
They're not.
Forgiveness is selfish.
You do it for you, you never doit for them.
And they're conducting theirlife.
(17:39):
They're not even thinking aboutyou, which is irritating in and
of itself.
You want them to be miserable,don't you?
Everybody does, but they're not.
They're not even thinking aboutyou.
Okay, that makes you even moremad.
So it's, and it also doesn'tit's.
I've been sober for 34 yearsand when I first got sober,
everybody goes through a programand you're supposed to make
amends and go through yourfourth step and all that kind of
(18:00):
thing, and they all want you toreach out to the person.
Yeah, no, I was, I am, I wasborn shy and I am an extroverted
(18:22):
introvert because I've taughtmyself to be that way and my
knee jerk reaction because deepdown I'm actually very shy is
not to reach out and callsomebody that I'm angry at.
Not gonna happen.
World.
This is very private.
You don't have to tell anybody.
You can be in the privacy ofyour own home and nobody has to
know.
You do it for you.
You do it, you forgive peoplebecause, basically, you want
them out of your head.
That's it.
You want them out of your head.
You want to stop thinking aboutthem.
Now.
You're not going to forget them.
You're not going to forget thememory, because humans aren't
(18:45):
capable of that.
But the emotional charge willgo to neutral.
You can go on Facebook and lookat that person and you won't
care.
You'll look at the name andnothing, nothing.
And that's exactly what I'mlooking for.
I'm looking for neutrality.
I want the nothing.
That's what I'm looking for.
That's when you know you'veforgiven them, because you
(19:07):
really don't give a blank.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Right, right.
I had an experience within thislast year that I got very
frustrated with someone and wemet up and I gave the apology.
That person did not give theapology back to me, but I was
okay with that.
But I'm know, look at thatperson online now and not feel
(19:29):
that I'm like okay, and I'm ableto follow her and support her
and things like that, so itreally changes it.
It does for your body, but it'snot, you know, erasing anything
or I'll still be cautiousaround that person, but I'm not,
as I'm not angry anymore.
So, yeah, so it's a gift yougive yourself.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Well, just because I forgive you doesn't mean I want
a relationship with youAbsolutely I probably don't.
But I'm not going to bite youwhen I see you casually at a
party.
Sure, you know.
If you do want to bite themverbally, okay, may I suggest
you do another round.
Forgiveness is like an onionand you're not going to get a
number 10 person down to a oneand one sitting.
(20:09):
It's going to take.
It's going to take a couplerounds to do.
You're going to have to say mymantra a couple times.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Right.
So helping others throughcoaching, advising what has been
the biggest challenge, orrather struggle, you have faced
in your own healing journey.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
I think it's a matter of getting people to take what
I do seriously.
I've always looked younger thanI really was, so when I was 18,
I looked like I was 12.
Both my sons are the same way,but they can grow a beard.
My oldest son's in federal lawenforcement and he can grow a
beard when he doesn't haveNobody.
(20:47):
Nobody takes him seriously, butyou know I'm a girl, couldn't
do it, so nobody really startedto take me seriously until I was
like 35 or 40.
And you know, so it it.
That always kind of bothered me,and you know it's having to
hide a gift I was born with alsobothered me.
So I think the biggest struggleI've had most of my life is to
(21:10):
hear people poke fun at thehoodoo voodoo.
And in my head I'm going butit's real.
Y'all don't know what you'retalking about, but it was the
70s and the 80s and you just youdidn't speak out, you just did.
Now it's 2024 and the youngpeople are listening to me.
Well, you should have spoken up, yeah, in 2024, I would never
(21:34):
let anybody get away with that.
Today it's a completelydifferent world.
I also wouldn't be speaking toa podcaster about this.
I'd be talking about conciergework.
20 years ago was a differentworld, but I think back then
that's what bothered me.
Women really were not takenseriously at all.
You had to use a microphone forpeople to take you seriously,
and even then they wanted to patyou on the head.
So I'm very much a fan of wheresociety has gone.
(21:56):
Now.
You know, young women can nowactually be believed, and that
makes me very happy.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Right.
I mean there was such theoppression.
I mean I was a child of growingup in the 70s and 80s and you
know you were guided into ohwell, you'll make a nice wife.
You know you're going to growup and you're going to be a
great wife.
And you're in school and you'llmake a great teacher, a great
secretary, a great nurse.
Those were the choices right.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Those are the choices I was given too.
Well, you've got to find ahusband and kids.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
I'm a career girl.
Right, you had to go to school,then you had to go get married
and then you're like a seniorand you're not engaged in
college.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
And what do I do?
You're an old maid.
Oh my God.
You're 21 and not married.
You're an old maid, what thehell.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Yeah, and then even as a child, when you have dreams
and you knew things and it'sshush, shush.
We don't talk like that.
And it's.
Then you add on if you grew upin a religious family on top of
that.
No, we don't talk of thingslike that, that's not of God,
that's not the word of God, soyou're always made to feel small
small, less than For the womenlistening.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
This is usually.
This is kind of a male thing,this is a woman thing.
Men don't usually have thisproblem.
I'm not I still not sure why,but they don't.
I think it's just because theworld raises men and women
differently.
But let me speak to every womanout there by saying you are
worthy, we do believe you andyou can do this.
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That little bird in yourshoulder has been chirping at
you and you do listen to itoccasionally.
But if you get to a stoplightand you feel you have to go
right instead of left, go right.
I'm going to give you a realrecent example.
Might turn your hair white, butthis is a true story.
We lived in Wake Forest for 18years in North Carolina, north
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Carolina, and we finally decidedwe wanted to downsize, but we
didn't know where we wanted tomove, decided we wanted to be in
North Carolina because I'vetaken so many state driving
tests, because I've lived in alot of places.
I was going to have theGuinness Book of World Records
of most state driver's teststaken.
So I put my foot down and saidI'm North Carolina, there's
mountains, there's beach, we canfind something.
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So we were very, very close tomoving to Asheville.
Asheville just got destroyed bya huge hurricane, I mean.
And I mean destroyed, yeah, andI kept going and I loved it.
It was beautiful and we lookedat several neighborhoods, but it
just it felt wrong to me and Icouldn't put.
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I couldn't put my finger on it,the energy was just wrong and I
wanted to like it and I do didlike Asheville and I could see
myself living in the mountains.
But it felt wrong.
And my husband of 34 years haslearned to listen to me and so
we decided he loves the beach,so we decided to go look at the
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beach and we eventually moved toWilmington.
Now I know why it felt wrongwhen we were going to build, a
house was destroyed and floodedand we would have lost
everything.
So when you have that feeling,you could either feel it, you
might just know it, you mighthear words, or you might see it
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in your mind.
If every one of you can visionyour childhood bedroom in your
mind, can you see the bed andthe color of the walls?
That's.
Clairvoyance Doesn't mean aStephen King novel.
You're not going to startseeing ghosties.
Oh hello, you might.
It doesn't mean a Stephen Kingnovel, you're not going to start
seeing ghosties.
Oh hello, you might.
It merely means that you areclear seeing and it merely means
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that you see the answer.
You see it online, you see itin a movie, you'll see it on a
sign.
You, just when you ask aquestion, you literally see the
answer and I hear the answer.
Over the years, I've learned todo all the Claire's.
But this is a method.
Intuition is real and it willsave your life if you let it.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Yeah, absolutely Absolutely.
So what do you wish youryounger self knew about being
intuitive?
Speaker 2 (26:03):
I actually wish my younger self knew how to forgive
.
I spent many years being angry.
I spent 20 years being thatteenager.
You know the teenagers I'mtalking about.
You know it's angry.
You have one friend.
You listen to all this hardmusic.
You're draped in black.
But I lived in New York Cityand everybody wore black.
So I'm not sure that's a thingbecause we all wore black.
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But you know, and I was angryat my family and they were
dysfunctional alcoholics.
So that's fair, I should havebeen mad at them.
But I spent a long time,entirely too long, living that
story of survivor.
I've survived suicide.
I've survived the anger.
This is my story.
This is who are you?
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That's very scary.
Yeah, who are you?
I may not have any friends.
Well, you don't have anyfriends now.
So what do you have to lose?
Right, it's a 63 year old metalking to 20 something,
catherine, saying you know,stand up, you know.
But I wish I had known aboutthis power of forgiveness
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because it would have preventeda lot of self-imposed problems
that I had along the way and Iwould have.
I might've had a longer, Imight've had some more time.
My mother finally did get sober,I'm happy to say.
Both my parents did.
My mother got sober.
She fell down a flight ofstairs, broke her hip, ended up
in the hospital and even mymother couldn't get a gin and
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tonic in the hospital.
So she dried out.
We sent her to dry out and youknow, we had three brilliant
years.
We forgave each other, webecame closer than sisters and
she died of breast cancer.
So I spent the next you knowlittle while in deep darkness,
depression, and I wish I hadknown about forgiveness, because
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I could have forgiven her.
I could have forgiven death, Icould have forgiven.
You can forgive anything.
I forgave 1974.
Why did I forgive 1974?
You ask?
Okay, overlooking, thedinosaurs were roaming back then
.
That's the year I tried tocommit suicide and I also.
I was in the eighth grade and Iforgave the bullies, I forgave
myself, I forgave all theplayers in that year, but then I
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forgave the year and the energyaround the year because I
wanted to stop thinking about it.
Now I can dredge up thosememories if you want me to, but
now when I look back at mychildhood, I can look back and
see the love.
I can look back and see thelove.
I can look back and see thelaughter.
I can look back and it's notthat I had.
It was a different childhood.
But I'm now paying attention todifferent things than I was,
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let's say, 20 years ago, when Ilooked back and saw dysfunction
and I saw anger and I saw allthese horrible things.
Now I look back and I see thelove that was actually there all
the time.
So it's not that I've forgotten, it's just that now I'm
remembering different things.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Yeah, and it's what Dr Wayne Dyer always said change
the way you look at things andthe things you look at.
Change.
And what a powerful tool fornow.
I mean, you see more, so muchmore, I guess, just because
social media and where it'sthrown in our face about.
You know these, you know youngchildren who you know take their
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own lives because they're beingbullied.
And when I were in school wewould go to school and we would
go home and we would have thatquiet, but to have that being
followed on social media and youjust don't get that moment of
break.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Oh Lord, if we'd had social media back then, I think
that would have been worse.
I just can't imagine.
I probably would have gonethrough with the suicide.
I just can't imagine.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
I can't imagine Like you would go into school and say
you wore the wrong color onThursday or the wrong color
socks.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Yeah, been there, done that, yeah.
But today you can forgiveanything, if you know.
Let's say you're mad at yourpastor, you can forgive the
pastor.
Let's say you're mad at yourpolitician, your governor, you
can forgive your governor.
You can forgive your state, youcan forgive.
I'm mad about the war in theMiddle East.
Well, forgive.
The war in the Middle East andthe energy around it is, you
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know, just this big thing.
Is it going to help the MiddleEast?
Probably not, but it's going toreally help you because your
energy is going to get better.
Let me tell you, let me throw alittle science in there for the
naysayers who are saying youknow she's out of her mind.
I got science to back me up.
There was a study done by aJapanese researcher named
Masumoto.
(30:37):
I'm pretty sure that's how youpronounce it and it's right.
On Google you can GoogleJapanese water study Masumoto.
You'll see the pictures and I'mgoing to dumb this down real
far.
In short, he took severalcontainers of water.
One container of water he spokebeautiful, brilliant, loving
things.
To the other container of waterhe said nasty, hateful,
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horrible things.
Then he put it under amicroscope.
The water he said nasty thingsto had this brown and black
sludgy formations.
The water that he spoke love tohad these beautiful crystal
formations.
And why am I telling you thatyour body is almost 98% water?
So if your self-talk is awfuland you're angry and bitter,
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what do you think's happening tothe water molecules inside your
body?
That's why anger is toxic.
You're literally turning yourwater molecules into sludge,
which is affecting your organs.
So by forgiving this, it'sgoing to actually cause you to
be healthier and feel lighter.
Now, when I first discoveredthis method, I like to tell
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people to do this before bed.
Unless you do know a Reikimaster who you can do your
forgiveness and then go pay avisit to this person.
It'll help a lot.
But if you don't do it beforebed, because your body is going
to heal itself while it sleepsWell, I'm an overachiever and I
thought I'm going to get a listof people, and I got a list of
like 50 people and I said thisis going to be great.
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I'm going to do it all at once.
I'm going to feel bettertomorrow.
I'm going to be like abutterfly coming out of a cocoon
and look out world.
I'm going to forgive everybody.
Didn't work out the way Iplanned because I spent the next
three days in bed with whateverybody thought was a stomach
flu, because my body needed toclear those sludgy cells out of
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my body and because I hadforgiven too many, it did the
only thing that it knew to do.
So when you do this process andyou read the system in my book,
please limit yourself to 10 to12 people at a time.
Unless you know a Reiki master,please limit yourself to 10 to
12 at a time and even if you doknow the master, limit yourself
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to 10 anyways, and do start withthe easy ones and work your way
up to the hard ones.
Don't make yourself sick.
This is powerful, powerfulenergy.
I forgave a level one friendfrom high school and it was easy
.
I said my little prayer and I'dforgiven her because it was
like 20, 30 years ago.
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We hadn't spoken in 20 to 30years either, but I thought this
is easy.
I can toss this.
One Couldn't even remember whatwe were mad at, right, hadn't
spoken to her in decades.
Two hours later, she calls meup on the phone and we did.
We made all the right noisesand did all the right things.
Yada, yada, yada.
And I but I'm a curious littlebear.
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And I said, after all thesedecades, why did you choose to
call me today?
She said, you know it was thedamnedest thing.
A figurine you gave me back inschool two hours ago, which was
when I was forgiving her, flewoff my shelf and landed in the
middle of my floor.
And I saw it and figured Ishould give you a call.
So if the forgiveness energyfor a level one person can
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literally move something off ashelf 700 miles away, can you
imagine what it's going to do toyour body for a higher, for a
level four, five, six or even ahigher number?
That's why this is so powerful.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Wonderful.
And for the listeners out therethat are doing Reiki, depending
on what your lineage is, whatsystem you study, level one
tends to be the one of self-giftto yourself.
Touching Level two, let's justsay, whatever system that you're
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in, that you have your symbols.
When you use your symbols, youcan use this, you know your book
as a tool to go back.
Use that distance symbol, usethe mental, emotional symbol to
go back.
So one of the things that I haddone when my father was dying he
was in the ICU and I used theReiki symbols and to go back to
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that time when I was five yearsold, to bring forgiveness to my
dad, to my mother, to myself,because you know, I made was
made aware of a particular kindof violent event that happened
in that time frame and theinformation had come out to me
as my dad was dying.
So I only had so much time withmy dad on the planet that I
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could choose Do I be angry withhim and not visit him anymore,
or do I choose to do somethingwhere I can shift the energy?
I didn't have time to go tocounseling, right?
I didn't have time to do someother things, but I thought this
could help.
This can help me and it reallyshifted things.
So I was able to that very nextday show up at that hospital
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room for him and be there forhim.
So it really.
I really was life changing to dothat, to forgive him, because
it was something he probablyshouldn't have been forgiven for
.
But just think of when hepassed, if I didn't have that
closure right, I would have tobe left with.
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So, yeah, it really shiftedsomething in me so that I could
walk there and be with him, andwhat a gift it was that I was
able to be there with his lastbreath.
You know, he was there with hisfirst breath and you know, and
I was there for his last breath.
So, you know, forgiveness is awonderful thing to bring in and
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I've talked to students thatI've trained and they're like,
but I'm not there, and I says,well, remember, my dad was dying
.
I might not have been there,you know, 10 years before I
wasn't there to in that place toforgive him, but because he was
dying and he only had so muchtime, I needed to do something,
you know, for myself to getthrough that experience.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
So yeah, and for anybody listening whose father
has already passed and you feelyou need to forgive them you can
forgive dead people.
You forgive for you, so itdoesn't matter where they are or
are not and, as a forgivenesscoach, if you're having a real
hard time forgiving somebody, aprivate session with me and I
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will lead you through myforgiveness system, and we might
even touch on a past lifethat's tripping you up, so I'll
lead you through the entireprocess.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Yeah, yeah, and you may not get that, I'm sorry.
And after you may not, no, youmay not.
My dad passed several weeks, itwas probably several weeks
later.
I had a reading with someoneand she said your dad's coming
through and he wants to let youknow he's sorry.
And she said your dad's comingthrough and he wants to let you
know he's sorry.
Oh, how beautiful is that?
(37:33):
Yeah, I'm sorry, and I thinkjust you know whatever he was
dealing with on the other side,he finally saw it because he was
so sick he wasn't aware that Iwas showing up every day and
everything I had to get through.
I mean, I was living about 25minutes out from Pittsburgh, but
it was a challenge to get everyobstacle, construction, all
these things to get to him, upto his room.
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You know there to see him everyday.
So, yeah, so you, you, you mayget it.
You may get it in this life, oryou may hear it from beyond.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
So you might, you might and you might see the sign
.
I mean, remember, you're goingto either see it, hear it, feel
it or know it, and it's just amatter of you paying attention
and waking up, as people willsay.
But losing the anger is goingto help you hear those messages
or feel them, whatever gift youhave.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
So, when it is time for you to seek guidance, what
qualities do you look for in aspiritual coach, or forgiveness
coach, or someone who'sintuitive?
Speaker 2 (38:33):
I am blessed with to have an inner circle of
intuitive besties.
So when I need help, I usuallygo to Katie or Paula and the
three of us will work on theproblem and because they're both
as intuitive as I am, we'llkind of just work it out and
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we've created a littleneighborhood and we will do
these webinars People we'regoing to be launching.
You'll be able to join them, aswe are.
But I really have always goneto like-minded people.
I'm not very religious.
I never could figure out whyGod really.
I mean, I'm not trying tooffend anybody, but I just
didn't think he cared what I ateon Fridays, that's just.
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I just didn't think heparticularly cared.
So religion, I just neverreally understood it because I
thought, if he's God, why can'the have a conversation with me?
How hard could that be?
And I, in those days I hadn'tfigured out that the person I
was talking to actually wasn'tme.
It was my angels, it was myspirit guides, it was God.
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You can call it anything youwant.
It's your higher self.
You can call it anything youwant.
I don't really care.
And I didn't figure it outuntil I think I was in my 30s
and I turned my head and I sawan angel in the living room.
It's the first and last time Iever actually saw something,
which makes me sad.
But she was right there,standing like in the flesh,
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smiled at me and then she wasgone.
I thought, okay, I'm crazyseeing things now.
So I thought, okay, well, maybeI should start thanking God.
I mean, something's obviouslyhappened to me.
And I started saying thank youGod.
Maybe I should start thankingGod.
I mean, something's obviouslyhappened to me.
And I started saying thank youGod for this and thank you God
for that.
And in my head I answeredmyself you're welcome.
Every time I said it, I thought, okay, I'm thanking myself and
saying you're welcome to myself.
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I still hadn't put it togetherbecause I still trusted my inner
voice, but I just thought itwas me.
I really did, and I finallydecided I'm a college educated
girl, so remember, this wasbefore the internet.
Thank you, that's how old I am.
And so I decided to go toBarnes and Noble and somebody's
written a book about this.
(40:42):
So I'm and because crazy thingshappen to me on a regular basis
, might I add I went into thebookstore and I'm wandering
around and all of a sudden, thisbook flies off the shelf and
lands at my feet Okay, booksdon't usually do that.
So I walked to the other side tosee who was there.
Nobody was there.
The book literally fell off theshelf at me and there was no
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wind in the store, obviously.
I looked down it wasConversations with God by Neil
Donald Walsh, book one, and ithad just come out.
So I finally I put two and twotogether and came up with five,
and I finally knew exactly whatI had been doing all my life.
And I stood there andremembered giving messages to
people and giving telling youknow, a childhood friend, where
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you see their angels all aroundyou, but thinking it was just me
trying to make them feel better.
I finally realized the abilitythat I had.
So that's really what startedit all.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Wonderful.
So what advice would you givesomeone who's just entering this
intuitive forgiveness work?
Believe.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Everything you've been taught.
With all due respect, um,you're gonna have to relearn.
Yeah, because the world isstuck in a 1950s, 60s paradigm
and it's a patriarchy.
I'm not bashing it, it just itis what it is.
I'm just a fact.
And even business is stillstuck in this kind of 1950s
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patriarchal thing.
And school in the 1960s and 70s, when I was in school they're
teaching everybody the same.
It's 2024.
They're still teaching the samethings, with the desks in the
same row and the same classes.
It's nuts.
I'm in my 60s.
We shouldn't be doing it likethis.
So there's a lot more to lifethan what you've been taught.
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There's a whole nother worldout there beyond the veil, and
they've been trying to reach you.
Your angels have been trying toreach you.
Everybody is born with twoangels, one on their left and
their right hand side, and it'slike the law of gravity.
The law of gravity is going towork, whether you believe in it
or not.
We can call the law of keepingTracy on the planet.
It doesn't care, it's stillgoing to work.
(42:55):
Okay, I don't believe in thelaw of gravity.
It still doesn't care, it'sstill going to work.
So you don't believe in angels,but there's one on the right
side and the left side of yourbody and they will be there to
the day you die at, whether youbelieve it in or and they want
to help you and they can'tunless you say it out loud
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Angels, please help me.
If you're in a public place, Iusually whisper it because
people think you're crazy.
But you know all this help isavailable to you.
So if you're just at thebeginning of your journey, I
suggest you try doing someguided writing.
Get a pen and a piece of paper,and I want you try doing some
guided writing.
Get a pen and a piece of paperand I want you to turn off all
your technology.
(43:36):
Did you know that phones havean off button?
Crazy, right, they have an offbutton.
They also have a mute button.
You can mute it.
I want you to either turn itoff.
I actually said this tosomebody a few weeks back.
The color drained from her face.
She said oh no, I could neverturn it off.
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I mean she, she literallystarted shaking in front of me,
so it was actually veryentertaining.
Yeah, so yeah, no, you can muteit or make it vibrate.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
I don't care.
Yeah, you tell your kidsdisturb.
And my kids figured out that ifyou call it twice you can do
the do not disturb.
And my kids figured out thereyou go, if you call it twice,
it'll bypass the do not disturb.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
Oh, smart kids.
Yeah, you got some smart ones.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
I got some smart ones .
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Yeah, but I want you to ask a question and then,
whatever forms in your mind, Iwant you to write it down.
It could be a vision.
You could be seeing something.
Write down what you see.
It could be a color.
You could hear something.
Maybe you'll hear some words.
Maybe you'll hear the words ofa song.
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Write down the lyrics.
Write down the words.
Maybe you'll just feelsomething All of a sudden.
You'll feel happiness or joy,or you'll feel something in your
body.
Write it down and before youknow it, you'll be having a
conversation.
You'll be talking to thatlittle bird on your shoulder.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
Very good, so what books do you recommend?
Speaker 2 (45:00):
I actually you can buy.
I have all sorts of books onAmazon the Little Bird on your
Shoulder, my book, the UltimatePath to Forgiveness.
But I also suggest you go outand purchase Shower Blessings by
Dr Katie Nall, because if youare one of those people that
doesn't know how to meditate andit's a tiny, tiny little book I
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mean it's a tiny little book,but Shower Blessings if you
don't know how to meditate,that's the book to get.
I recommend it to everybody andit's a quick read, beautiful.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
So what other services and modalities do you
offer?
Do you offer trainings, classes, events?
Speaker 2 (45:37):
Well, I am a forgiveness coach and what that
means is if you're havingtrouble forgiving you've read
the book and you just can'tforgive your number 10s or
something you do a session withme and I'm going to pick at it
and I'll get you going.
I'm also a medium and a pastlife healer.
So the angels show me what lifeis tripping you up the most in
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this lifetime.
And I tell you a quick story.
My oldest son called me up at 3o'clock in the morning and he
was really upset.
He said, mom, I can't sleep.
I've tried everything, I'vetried medication, I've tried all
the sleep apps.
He said he tried everything.
He couldn't sleep and it hadbeen going on for like a week or
two.
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And he said I understandsuicide and depression now
because I'm at the end of myrope.
He was really upset so I didn'tknow I could do this.
It was a bunch of years ago.
So all of a sudden I got thisvision of a sheriff of a town
who was lying in bed and he wasnext to his wife and it was the
day before Easter.
She was stepping out on himhaving an affair with somebody
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in the town and she smotheredhim with his pillow in the town
and she smothered him with hispillow Wow, and he died.
And as soon as I revealed thatlife to him and we talked about
it and then we forgave all theplayers Johnny on the spot,
because I can do it verbally aswell as I can write it, so I've
heard we verbally forgaveeverything.
He started to sleep through thenight and he started to go out
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with people because he didn'ttrust women.
Can you blame him?
So I can.
I'm usually revealing the lifethat's tripping you up the most.
Maybe you're scared of heights,maybe you're having trouble
with relationships, maybe itcould be anything, but they will
always reveal the life that'stripping you up the most
intergenerational trauma.
There's a buzzword everybody'stalking about we will forgive
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everybody in that lifetime,because energy is neither
created nor destroyed.
So the energy that you had inthat past life that was so
traumatic follows you into thislife and that's where
forgiveness takes an entirelydifferent.
It's like a different breed ofcat at this point, isn't it?
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That's where the energy is so,so, so critical.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
Well, where can we?
Speaker 2 (47:54):
find you.
You can go toCatherineGiovannicom and
Catherine, thanks to my motheris spelled a little bit odd.
Thanks, mom, k-a-t-h-a-r-i-n-eGiovannicom.
You can also go to Amazon forall my books and the Little Bird
on your Shoulder and myForgiveness book Both have audio
books because, I do understand,not everybody likes to read, so
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the audio book is alsoavailable.
If you join Audible, I thinkit's free.
I saw it free on Audible awhile back, so you might want to
check that out.
You might be able to get it forfree.
Speaker 1 (48:24):
Beautiful.
All right, that ends our firstpart of our journey together,
and I'm going to continue on asyour guide into the next part,
which is questions from socialmedia and our listeners.
So here we go.
Number one what inspired you towrite the Ultimate Path to
Forgiveness, unlocking yourPower?
Speaker 2 (48:44):
I wanted to help people find the peace that I had
found, and I understood thatthis method of forgiveness is
new and nobody had ever heard ofit before, and our world is in
such a state of hate andnegativity right now.
Any tiny little path I cancarve out for people, it's my
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honor to help.
It's my honor to help, so Icouldn't have kept this quiet if
you paid me to do it, and Ilove to write, it's my happy
place.
This is the first book of three, so there are, if I can get to
my computer, there are two morecoming after this.
Speaker 1 (49:22):
Oh, wonderful, wonderful.
Number two I am currentlydealing with breast cancer as a
surviving stage three breastcancer survivor.
What advice can you give me asI move forward in my healing
journey?
Speaker 2 (49:37):
The mind is a powerful instrument.
When I got cancer I don't thinkthey do it today, but when I
came down with cancer, they sendyou to chemo class and I was in
this airless little room andthe nurse ratchet at the front.
She was awful.
She started telling meeverything bad was going to
happen, all the side effectsfrom chemo and radiation and how
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sick I was going to get and theinfections I was going to get.
She didn't tell me anythingpositive.
She didn't tell me what to eat,what to think, what to do.
My brain snapped.
So I walked to the front of theroom when the class was over
and I said I'm not going to getas sick as everybody else.
She looked at me and I live inthe South.
She said oh honey, you're goingto get all these things.
I said no, I'm not Fast forwarda year.
(50:26):
She comes up to me in thehallway.
She says Mrs Giovanni, what areyou doing?
Walking down the hall I had noidea what she was talking about.
She said what are you eatingand doing?
Because you didn't get as sickas we expected you to.
And I looked at her and I saidremember a year ago when I told
you I wasn't going to.
The mind is a powerful thing.
Now I'm a clean eater, Ichanged my diet, started to
exercise, but I kept a positiveattitude.
And positivity is like taking ashower you have to do it every
(50:48):
day and sometimes when you'rethat sick and that much pain I
mean I was in a lot of pain.
It's a minute by minute choice,but I kind of thought the
cancer was a terrorist and I wasgoing to be damned if I was
going to let the cancer win.
So I kept a positive attitudeand I just kind of kept my.
I forgave everything as much asI could and I just kind of kept
(51:11):
myself in that positive mindspace and when somebody tried to
bring it down, I literallyignored them.
And your mind is so powerful,it's a real healing vessel.
So keep your mind really really, really straight and stay
positive, because it's going tohelp a lot.
Speaker 1 (51:30):
Wonderful.
Thank you for that advice.
So, as a three-timeaward-winning bestselling author
with over a dozen publishedbooks, what advice would you
give someone who wants to writea book?
Speaker 2 (51:44):
Ah, that's a fun.
That's a fun topic.
Everybody thinks you have tocome up with the title of the
book and then you have to startwith chapter one and go to
chapter two and go to chapterthree.
Poppycock, I want you to justsit down and write and you just.
I wrote, I wrote.
I wrote a book called Rainbowsand Banana Peels about my cancer
journey and I wrote it on mycell phone because of thought
(52:04):
would come into my head and I'demail myself my thought and then
, after I got a bunch ofthoughts, it turned into a book.
So just start writing and thethought that you're writing
could end up in the middle ofthe book.
It could end up at the end ofthe book, it doesn't matter at
the end of the day, because whenyou think you're finished, then
you can put all your thoughtsand all your pages into the
(52:26):
order it needs to be.
So just start writing and ifpeople try and say you can't
write or anything like that,literally turn your brain off.
Don't listen to them.
Everybody could write a bookand don't worry about who's
going to print the book.
All my books are self-published,believe it or not.
We formed our own publishingcompany because we are that
(52:47):
stupid and we have a hightolerance to pain.
Yeah, that had when I startedthe association.
I try and talk people out ofdoing that too.
That's, that's really painful.
But you know, I I think that ifyou want to write a book, just
start writing and everything isjust going to kind of flow and
then when you think you'refinished, then you figure out
(53:07):
how you're going to get itpublished.
But for now don't even thinkabout it, just start writing.
Speaker 1 (53:12):
Beautiful, beautiful.
Well, that was our lastquestion, and, as we've been
talking, is there something thatyou may have forgotten to share
or something you feel called toshare with our listeners?
Speaker 2 (53:25):
You can take that time now.
The floor is yours.
I think I just want people toknow that they can do this.
They can live a life of joy.
I ask a lot of people whatbrings you joy?
And it would make you very sadif I told you.
Only eight out of 10 peopleanswer the question.
Most people can't answer thequestion.
They'll look at me and say,well, I enjoy reading or I enjoy
going on vacation.
Okay, that's fine.
(53:46):
But what if you want to go onvacation 24-7?
That feeling brings you joy.
What is you doing in your lifethat's not bringing you joy?
We'll have to work from nine tofive.
Okay, let's talk about that.
What could you do that wouldbring you more joy?
You can live a life of joy andstill make money.
You can live a joy of happinessand it's a question of joy and
(54:06):
still make money.
You can live a joy of happinessand it's a question of
listening to that little bird onyour shoulder.
If you get to a stoplight andit says go right instead of left
, go right.
You may never know why you weresupposed to go right, but you
probably avoided an accident orsomething horrible or a
hurricane going throughAsheville like I did, true story
, but it's a question of reallytrusting your gut.
(54:27):
You can live the life that youwant, so forgive what you can.
I'm not meaning to bash anycoaches out there, but a lot of
us used to talk about that wall.
It's time to break through thatwall.
Here are the tools I'm going togive you tools to help you
break through that wall.
Are the tools I'm going to giveyou tools to help you break
(54:49):
through that wall?
Okay, let's stop that right now.
Pull out a few bricks out ofthe wall, walk around the thing,
keep going, circle back whenyou can.
If you can't circle back, it'sokay, keep going.
You know the person thatyourself is often the hardest
person to forgive, and I forgavemyself, and my 20-year-old
(55:10):
Catherine is different than60-year-old Catherine and she
created a persona that sheneeded to in order to survive.
Right, and I can forgive thatperson.
In the Bible, I am notreligious by any means, but
there is one passage that getsme there.
It's how I forgave my parents.
Jesus is up on the cross and hesays forgive them, father.
(55:31):
They know not what they do.
So that says, if you're in thefifth grade and you don't know
calculus, I can't get mad at youbecause you haven't learned it
yet.
So my parents did the best theycould with the tools they could
they had.
Was it good enough?
Of course not.
They could with the tools theycould they had.
Was it good enough?
Of course not.
But they did their best andthat, combined with some Simone
Biles level mental gymnastics,gets me to forgiveness.
(55:53):
And you can do the same thingfor yourself.
Be kind to yourself, becauseyou had to be that person.
But you're not that persontoday and even if you're
surrounded by people who thinkyou're still that person, you're
not that person.
We believe you, we know you cando this, so just start.
Tomorrow's a brand new day.
Start.
You have nothing to lose andeverything to gain.
Speaker 1 (56:16):
Very good, all right, catherine.
That ends our journey together.
So thank you so much for takingtime out of your very busy
schedule to come on this ReadySet Reiki journey with me.
Speaker 2 (56:27):
Oh, my pleasure.
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (56:29):
Thank you, and thank you for sharing your intuitive
gifts, being so brave and bold,with the world, and
congratulations on your sobriety.
That's wonderful oh thank you.
Wonderful and with your being abreast cancer survivor
Wonderful and with your being abreast cancer survivor and you
know, here you are everythingthat you've been through and
(56:49):
you're still helping and being aservice to others.
So thank you for that.
Speaker 2 (56:52):
My pleasure.
Speaker 1 (56:53):
All right, my wonderful listeners, if you
would like your questionfeatured on the show, reach out
wwwreadysetrickycom.
Also, check out Feather Sisterthat offers a variety of Reiki
trainings and yoga classes inperson, el Paso, texas, or
online.
I'm Tracy Seawright and thishas been Ready Set Reiki you.
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