March 23, 2025 • 57 mins
Jemmita, a renowned medicine woman and founder of Anchoring the Light, bridges Ancient wisdom with modern Spiritual practices. From a young age, she perceived the unseen world, developing her empathic abilities & sensitivities into her Superpower. She now guides others to do the same.
Jemmita's transformative journey led her to the Sacred lands of Peru and Bolivia, where she immersed herself in indigenous traditions and received initiations from her Andean Maestros and Elders into the Shamanic healing arts & Ancestral Medicines.
She has led groups to the magical mountains of Peruvian Andes since 2013, reconnecting people from around the Globe to the Ancient Magic, Wisdom & Mystery that lay like treasure waiting to be re-discovered in a time where it is most needed.
Through Anchoring the Light, Jemmita offers transformative experiences globally, including online and digital in person Ceremonial work, the Wilka Suyu Shamanic Cacao Ceremonialist Apprenticeship, and the Hampiq Ñust'a Modern Medicine Woman apprenticeship co-taught with Andean Maestro Puma Fredi Quispe Singona. Here, she shares powerful Shamanic techniques, ritual and energy practices, helping people around the world to awaken their highest potential and contribute to global consciousness shift.
Jemmita's mission is to empower others to remember their true divine nature, reclaim their vitality and joy, become Creators of their own reality, and serve as luminous leaders in their communities, all while honoring the principle of Ayni - sacred reciprocity in Communion with our Earth, ourselves and each other.
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Speaker 1 (00:16):
This is Ready Set Reiki, a podcast about Reiki and
all energy work, from thecurious beginner to the seasoned
master teacher, welcoming allsystems, all lineages and all
levels.
Reiki is a journey and not adestination, and on this Ready
Set Reiki journey, I refer tomyself as a guide rather than
host, as I too am traveling,supporting others and learning
on this Reiki journey as well.
And, with that said, I am yourguide, tracy C Wright.
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Today joining me is Gemma Godd.
Now she is a modern medicinewoman, a retreat leader, healer
and ceremonialist specializingin energy healing and spiritual
guidance, offering deep,transformational work globally
from Australia, bali, peru andmore.
Now her approach is anchoringthe light, emphasizing the
connection between mind, bodyand spirit, aiming to facilitate
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deep healing and inner harmonyfor her clients and empowering
others to remember their truedivine nature.
Her mission is to assist othersto become creators of their own
reality and transform their ownlives.
In that way, she has profoundlytransformed her own.
Her story is a testament to thepotential for the personal
growth and healing throughconnection to oneself and the
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world around.
Welcome, gemma, to Ready SetReiki.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Thank you so much for having me, Tracy.
I am delighted to be here withyou.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Wonderful.
Well, I can tell that you'reprobably going to be a big guest
on here, because you know wehad a little bit of trouble
connecting today, but it's allgood, we're here and we're going
to start this journey together.
So I can't wait.
So I'm just knowing thatthere's going to be a very
powerful connection today.
So, as we begin our journey,tell us a little bit about
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yourself.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Okay, well, I have a very, very colorful history.
I often say that I've alreadylived about 50 lifetimes just in
this one.
I think that's probably becauseyou know, if you're watching
this, you have some level ofawareness that this is our
lifetime of mastery.
So I feel that the rapid speedat which we are reinventing
ourselves continuously andmoving through our experiences
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as we grow is kind of happeningon light speed at the moment.
So, yeah, I was just reflectingon my journey with actually
with Reiki.
That was in my early 20s.
I studied Reiki with my teacherback at the time and that was
kind of the beginning of myjourney, I guess, into this
shamanic path.
As a kid I experienced tons ofstuff, you know, as I'm sure a
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lot of children do, but I didn'treally have the.
I had very well-meaning parents, but I definitely didn't have
an environment around me thatcould explain to me what was
happening or help me to managewhat I was experiencing.
So I started to teach myselfrituals and ceremonies back then
and when I look back now I'mlike, wow, this makes so much
sense as to why I have thisinnate love of ceremony and
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ritual.
That is really, you know, sortof punctuates all of the work
that I do now.
Even as a kid I rememberbadgering the Catholic priest in
the school that I went tobecause there was only allowed
to be altar boys and Iknew that ceremony inside out,
back to front, and I was like Iwant to be an altar girl.
You know, it wasn't so much, itwas just like I loved the bell
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ringing and the thing and all ofthe you know, all of that
ritual that went along with it.
And so, yeah, fast forward.
I guess, um, into my 20s and um, when things really began to
open up for me, when I began tomeditate a lot, I was doing a
method called transcendentalVedic meditation twice a day,
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which is a very beautiful I'msure people are aware of it if
you're not check it out.
It's a beautiful meditation forreally just emptying yourself
out and being in your stillnessand coming back to Center.
But what I didn't realize wouldhappen is that the flood gates
would open and boy did they open, you know, and all of the
psychic stuff started comingthrough and that was a massive
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journey to learn how to navigatethat.
I had a year and a half of whatpeople would, I guess, nowadays
call a spiritual awakening forme.
I didn't even realize that waswhat was happening.
It was just huge and intenseand people started dropping away
out of my life and you know,this is something that I think a
lot of us go through as westart moving through this
process and you start tonavigate your way in this new
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reality and I feel that rightnow, in this time and space that
we're in now, it's happening topeople much faster, much more
spontaneously.
And this is where I think youknow podcasts like yours is so
helpful because it helps peopleto navigate what's happening and
to know that they're not alone.
So then, all the way throughoutmy 30s, I had a really acute
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and innate awareness of therebeing something more in my work
really began on myself, in, youknow, sort of like my early to
mid-20s continued and then Iended up.
I had a raw food business andthis was really beautiful
because this was a way of mebringing medicine through food.
So the sort of our tagline, Iguess you would say, was living
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food, loving vibration, and allof the food was made with
crystals.
It was all charged with energyand prayer and that really, I
say, was my beginning of myjourney with plant medicine,
because food is where plants,we're working with plants, and I
started working with the Andeansuperfoods back then, like
cacao and maca, or mesquitesfrom Mexico, but lucumo and you
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know these, these amazing foodsthat ancient people had worked
with for many years, that held avibrational quality as well as
being incredible for the body.
And actually the message that Igot back then, because I didn't
want it to be a business.
I had no interest in makingthis my business, it was my
passion, but I had a a galacticbeing appear to me and this is
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back in 2007 and tell me thatthere was a time coming where
even people that were doing thework on the level of energy,
that were awakening that theirphysical bodies wouldn't be able
to integrate the high level offrequencies, yeah, were to come,
and so I.
It wasn't really a choice to dothis, it was a yes or yes,
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because what they wanted me todo was make this way of being
available to the masses, tocrystalline the body as much as
possible to allow thosefrequencies to be more easily
assimilated and integrated.
And, of course, at the timeyou're just like, okay, you know
, and you kind of go along withit.
You're just like, okay, youknow, and you kind of go along
with it, and and it was, it wasbooming, you know.
And then later, in retrospect,you're like, ah, that's what it
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was all about.
So then from there, during thatphase, during that time that I
was doing that, had thatbusiness and was doing that work
, in 2011, I headed over toSouth America and in January
2012, I found myself in Peru.
I hadn't planned to go there,but my ex-partner, he, really
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wanted to go, so I went and assoon as my feet hit the ground
in Cusco, I was flooded like atsunami of memory and emotion.
You know, and I know peopleexperience that at places that
we go to.
When you connect to your soulancestry, you know your soul
lineage beyond the blood and thebones.
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And that's what happened for meand it was very fast.
And not long after that, after apretty harrowing experience
with some plant medicine there,I had that's, a pretty harrowing
experience with, uh, some, someplant medicine there.
Uh, I had um, that's a wholeother subject, I don't know if
we'll get into that today, butthat was a very, very difficult
and it's relevant becausethere's so much of that going on
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now.
Yes, people are being blownapart and finding it so hard to
come back, and this was 13 yearsago for me now, and that was
massive and it was six months ofreally being on the edge of
psychosis, you know.
And the way that I found my wayback was through an elder that
I met from the Andes, called DonBasilio, who saw what was going
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on and in 20 minutes did whatnobody else I'd seen so many
people, healers, to try and helpme to come back into the, and
no one could help.
And then he came along with hismesser medicine bundle with a
little bell, some mapacho, someagua florida, flower water, and
in a simple, humble, no frillslie down ceremony.
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In 20 minutes he called me backinto my body.
I landed with a thud like thejourney was so still so clear in
my mind today and from thatminute forward I knew that was
my path.
I knew that this was I don'tknow.
It just resonated with me onevery level, on every cell, and
just the humility, yet the power, just through this communion
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and connection to these verypowerful guardians, that these
people, particularly the Apus,the mountains and Pachamama, the
earth and the cosmic guardiansas well, you know from the stars
, but it's very grounded, it's avery grounded tradition and I
needed that.
So that became the beginning ofmy path and my journey into the
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shamanic work that I've doneever since, and it took me four
years to unravel myself out ofmy business.
I ended up giving it away InJanuary of 2017.
I walked away from it and thenfrom there on my work that I do
now, even though I was doing itthe whole time while I was in.
That business was kind of I usethe analogy it was like being
on the freeway in a Ferrari anddropping the handbrake, you know
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and it just, everything justwent and you know, from there on
it's just been exponential.
So, yes, my work is withancestral medicine, but it's
only less and less I serve themedicine these days.
It's more about quality thanquantity for me.
But what I learn from themedicine, what I've learned from
that experience, what thatopens, translates through
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everything that I do and reallymy mission is just to empower
and uplift in the best way thatI can and help people remember
the truth of who they really areand their innate wisdom that
everything is to self-source.
You know it's in here, we don'tneed to always be looking to
the outside.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Very good, yeah.
So you've always been someonewho's been empathetic ability,
sensitivities.
You've turned these things intoa beautiful superpower.
So when you talk about yourexperiences of being this modern
medicine, woman and energyhealing, would you say that this
found you or you found it?
How did how did this come about?
Was it just something that youjust felt that pulling, or you
know something that you werechasing?
Speaker 2 (10:53):
It is such a good question and a hundred percent
it found me.
There's not even a questionabout that.
I think before that there was anatural.
Uh, I wouldn't even, I guessthere was a seeking.
Yes, you know, I think there'sso much out there was a natural.
I wouldn't even I guess therewas a seeking.
Yes, you know, I think there'sso much out there for us to try
on for size and to see how itresonates with us.
(11:13):
And you know, I've often, for along time, I've lived in
conscious communities.
I say that because, you know,it's just these hubs around the
world where there is so much onoffer.
Oh, my goodness, that it's awonderful place to practice
discernment, because not all ofit's awesome.
You know, there's all the shinythings, but when this came
through, what actually happenedand how I was initiated onto
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this path is I had a coca leafreading with my dearest teacher
still now, and he and I nowteach together, side by side,
but amazing, maestro Puma.
And back in 2013 he threw thecoca leaves, which is what they
work with as an oracle, yes, andhe looks in the leaves and he's
like, oh, hang on a second,let's check this again.
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And then he throws it again.
He's like oof.
He said my princess.
He said don't let that blondehair and blue eyes fool you.
He said these are your arpus,meaning the mountains, and
you're a medicine woman and youneed to come back here as soon
as you can and train so againstall logical reason.
You know, I had 40 staff, I hada business.
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That was not an easy business.
It looked great from theoutside, but try running uh
organic, uh wild crafted.
You know it's just.
The system is not set up tosupport that financially at all.
So I'm, you know I'm dealingwith all of that and here I'm
like I have to go to peru and soand I served a really
traditional apprenticeship.
(12:38):
It's very, very different towhat the western mind thinks an
apprenticeship is or what wewant.
It's not kind of like.
I show you, you do it.
It's I send you to themountains for 10 or 12 hours at
a time.
You sit there until themountains start speaking to you,
and then they'll start to teachyou, and then you come back and
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you tell us what you heard, andthen we confirm it to be true,
right?
So you start to learn to listen.
You know, how we teach isdifferent now.
We kind of make it so that it'saccessible for people, but it
was tough, yeah, and there wasnot many well-dones or good job.
You know they don't work likethat.
It was more about stripping theego back.
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Actually, um and you know,having this I always say it's
like learning to walk this fineline between, uh, confidence and
humility yeah you know, there'sa real mastery in that.
It's kind of being humble but atthe same time knowing when to
act and knowing when to stepforward.
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So it definitely chose me.
It's's a path, it's a calling,and one that doesn't actually
make sense.
Like I look at myself, I lookin the mirror, I'm like huh,
like what is why?
Why can't I put this down?
Like I'm getting into my 14thyear of working deeply with this
and there's no part of me thatthinks I mean I just got married
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and even my ring is my messer,my altar, and it has a band of
12 chakanas around it.
I mean it's just, it feels likeit's in my blood and my bones.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Hard to explain.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah, and the DNA right.
Orphanogenic field, yep.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Very good, Very good.
So you know, you told us alittle bit about some of the
work that you had to do tobecome this shamanic.
So what are some of themisconceptions about being a
shamanic?
Healing arts and ancestralmedicine I mean, there's so many
things out there, but as you'reout there doing the work, what
are you finding that people aremisunderstanding about it?
Speaker 2 (14:40):
That's really interesting.
That's a great question.
Actually, one of the things Ifeel pretty yeah, I'd say
passionate about is busting themyth that because you work in a
shamanic tradition and you workwith you know that kind of
lineage or those healingenergies, that you have to look
a certain way or dress a certainway or you know, there's a
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whole kind of fashion.
Even that comes with what peoplethink it is to be a shamanic
practitioner and it's not.
It's got nothing to do withthat at all.
And one of the things for methat I've had to move through a
lot and I see it as a part of mypath and what makes me stronger
is judgment.
People come and and they see meand they're like what?
Like you don't look like.
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You know you look like a Barbie.
We even laugh and call meShaman Barbie, like it's a joke
and we love it.
And you know that has a wholestory in itself.
And so what?
We're multidimensional,especially women.
You know we are so multifaceted.
We can have all the things.
I love having nice nails and Ilove dirt under them.
I like having good hair and Ilove it best when there's twigs
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and sticks in it.
You know it's like it can beeverything.
So this thing that you have tobe one way, uh, or you have to
be this, it's like just feel thefrequency of who it is you're
working with, rather than gethoodwinked by, all of the right
jewelry and the right things onthe.
You know all of the things, sothat I think there's definitely
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a misconception there with thatRight.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
That's the same way in yoga as well.
There's a traditional look foryoga and then you try to go into
that and but trying to get thatdiversity in it, so just
embracing the diversity of it,do you um have any kind of uh,
like you learned from yourteacher and you learned from the
mountains and having thoseexperiences?
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Do you know like of othershamans who go to like a shaman
school or get other differenttypes of training?
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Not traditionally, traditionally that I know of
anyway.
Traditionally you are adoptedinto a lineage and that family's
lineage will be different tothe family that lives in the
community down the street.
The essence of it will be thesame, like, for example, we work
with the Mesa, which is themedicine bundle.
These traditions come fromKeros, which is right up high in
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the mountain.
There's about seven communitiesin Kairos.
Each one of those families hastheir own way of working with
the Mesa, although it's similar.
And then my lineage is from aplace called Chinchero, which is
like the high mountain passbetween Cusco and the Sacred
Valley, and the way that theywork with the Mesa from this
lineage of the seven rays isdifferent again.
So, but I know that everybody,all of the Andean medicine men
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and medicine women that I knowhave all passed through the same
process, and the most importantprocess of that is continuous
self-growth.
It is continuously beingwilling to go beyond your own
personal limitations, becauseyou can't facilitate for anybody
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else if you're not able to holdthat space for yourself.
So that has to be number one,and I think there needs to be a
lot of that work happeningbefore you're even really ready
to step into facilitating thatdepth or level of space for
somebody else it's not somethingthat can be taught or learned
overnight.
I'm talking like in regards toserving ancestral medicine.
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It's delicate.
Your opening fails.
You are working with differentlevels of energy, with different
levels of different realms, andyou really need to understand
and know what's happening on allof those levels and how to
navigate with that person inthat process.
You know, especially if theyshoot out, like I did, and you
need to be able to bring themback.
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Yes, so that takes some skilland that takes some experience
and understanding of how to dothat.
And then we have tools andpractices that are very easily,
you know, learnable if you like.
You know it's we call it yet J,so we can give you the
knowledge, like we can teach youhow.
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Like I've got a free masterclass just coming up and it's on
soul retrieval, right, so wecan give you tools, how to, how
to practice and perform a soulretrieval for yourself or for
others.
But that wisdom, that thatknowledge doesn't become wisdom
until you practice it and youembody it.
That's what we call yatchai.
So, yes, for sure we can giveyou, you know and you know um,
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yeah, I'm sure there aretechniques passed down, but
ultimately it's like donequickly, it's like you do this,
you do this, you do this.
Yes, you know it's not like I'mgoing to show you and now we're
going to sit in a workshop andwe're all going to practice it
until you get it right.
Like for me when I learned tomake a despacho, which is a the,
the offering, the higher wikiri.
We call it traditional offeringoffering.
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It's very elaborate and veryintricate and I was literally
given the despacho kit with thebits and pieces in it, put down
in front of me, and said do it.
And I'm like but what do I do?
There's like a hundred thingsin here and they're like listen
listen and follow what you hear,wow, you know.
so then, and then, when youembody it to a certain level and
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it's seen that, ah, yep, she's,she's got it then they'll give
you a little bit moreinstruction, okay, so, now that
you've got that, now try it withthis, that programs for this,
this is for that, that onethat's to do more with the north
, this, this one's to do withthe South.
Okay, so then you go again.
You just keep, you know, likethis.
So I, you know it's, it'ssomething that is, it's a
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lifetime's work, and that's theexciting and fun thing about it
is that you know the better itgets, the better it gets, and
you're always learning more.
Wonderful.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
And that's what's wonderful to have you on as a
shaman In my work.
You learned Reiki in thebeginning of your journey and
sometimes you have that clientthat you can only help them to a
certain point and you need torefer them to a shaman.
And I had a particular clientlike that, just what was coming
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that way, and I just hit thatend of the road Like I've helped
you this much but I need torefer you to someone who can be
a little bit more in that pathwith you.
So that's what's important forour listeners.
You know the same kind of ideathat we're continuously working
on ourselves but yet, placingour ego aside, what's best for
the client.
You may have that point whereyou know what I have to refer
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you to someone else, and sohaving this beautiful variety of
wonderful shaman out there thatcan help and assist for your
clients.
So that's why I feel it'simportant to be a part of the
Ready Set Reiki journey isbecause you know you're a helper
.
You're a helper with theclients, with the people, and
you know someone who's learningReiki may just feel.
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You know what I feel, thecalling for that.
I've had some students I'vetrained and I could see that you
know you're.
I think, if you want to, you'reon that route to be a shaman
and they're just so surprised byit.
But you could just feel theirenergy that like, ah yeah, I
think you're in that directionif you choose to.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
So I think and that's such an important thing that
you touch on, it's really andthat's it's getting yourself out
of the way, which is also thekey to not to not burning out.
Yeah Right, Well, you think it'syou, and you think it's your
energy, and you think thatyou're doing it and you're,
you're in control of it withoutrealizing that what you are, you
know, I always say like holdingspace, for example, has nothing
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to do with holding anything,and this is where the mistake is
made.
It's like holding.
What is that holding?
I'm holding it down, right, youare the space.
When you've done your work,when you've done your training,
when you're showing up as beingthe vessel for that healing and
all the energy is moving andarriving to you, like for me.
I work a lot with what we callthe su.
Use all the four directions,yes, cross of energy that's
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arriving to you and then thespace holds itself from what
comes through you.
Right, the frequency doesn't,and it's the frequency that
takes care of the work.
That's what's doing the healing, your vessel or the crystal for
that frequency.
You receive the energy and thenyou emanate.
And for me it's like such abeautiful, too understanding,
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because it helps us in ourpersonal journey to close the
gap on the formal ceremonialsession that you're in with your
client and life, because whenyou're in that session session,
you don't take on heavy energy,it's effortless.
And why?
Because you're present, becauseyou know why you're there, who
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you are, you've opened thatspace correctly.
The energy is arriving to you,it's emanating from you.
It's taking care of it.
But the only reason we gettaken out in life is because
we're not being conscious.
If we could show up in life inthe way that we did in a session
the way that we did in aceremony, then life would be
much more.
Also, much more would be muchlighter and more effortless too,
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I believe.
Yeah, so that's where I use mywork to always be ah, okay, so
if I'm like this over here, thenI want to be this over here and
closing the gap.
Wonderful, wonderful.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
So your mission is to assist others to become
creators of their own realityand transform their lives.
But has there been a time inyour life where you've had a
struggle or a challenge that youfaced on your own healing
journey?
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Oh my gosh, yes, many , I put my hand up for mastery
big time in this lifetime.
That's all I can tell you.
If an astrologer looks at mychart, they're like oh, they're
like that's not so great.
And I'm like, yeah, I know, Ithink I'm, I feel like I'm
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pretty much done with the bigstuff now, to be honest.
To be honest, I had the first42 years of my life was intense.
I've been through two majorliquidations or bankruptcies.
I lost everything, but Iactually gained everything
through that process.
I mean huge.
one of them was on the frontpage of the newspaper and was
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really public and at the sametime the person that I was
seeing who was in that industry.
We broke up, so that was a partof the headline, and my dad was
diagnosed with a terminalillness, so that was a part of
the headline.
Oh my goodness, so I literallywent overnight just from, and I
bounced, you know I came rightback up again and went, but
there was still clearlysomething to learn.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
So it's been a massive, massive journey.
But wow, you know, it doesn'tonly build resilience, it builds
absolute knowing it's beyondtrust, Right.
It's beyond trust.
It's knowing that when you areon your path in your service, in
your dharma, then you aresupported in a way that you
can't wrap your head in the 3Daround.
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And for me, you know, because Itrain a lot of people now to
facilitate sacred spaces andthey want to just step straight
into it understandably, right,they want to Most of the people
that come through go on toreally receive abundantly for
themselves.
But the key to it is and I I'msuper grateful that I had some
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income coming in when I wasfirst stepping into all of this,
because I I took the need foranything financial out of it.
Um, it just wasn't there.
I was first offering because Ijust loved it.
I just just loved it and so,naturally, the word started to
spread and people started tocome and then I was able to
(26:27):
charge for it.
And then, you know, slowly,over time, it changes and now
I've gone.
You know, I've just managed tobuild a couple of little places
in Bali and for someone that in2017, was like with nothing, yes
, to then get to that placewithout having borrowed any
(26:47):
money, without you know, I'mjust like I'm scratching my head
because on paper it doesn'tmake any sense.
Sure, on paper it's like huh,but it's not about being on
paper, you've got to get.
We have to kind of let go ofthat the how and just stay open
like you have your vision, youfeel what it is, you want to
(27:09):
move towards on your spiritualpath or whatever it is, and then
you've just got to be likeAlice in Wonderland and follow
the white rabbit, watch for thesigns and move in that direction
and always say thank you.
I mean for, for me, myrelationship with my guardians,
with my apples, my mountains,with bachamama, the earth and
the elements.
They're what get me throughevery single time.
(27:30):
So, um, it's really a beautifulthing because it's just a
feedback loop.
You know, it's not even aboutanything material.
It's just a feedback loop of,oh, okay, I'm, I'm on path, I'm
on purpose, I'm serving and I'min the reciprocal flow.
Right, what, in the end, is wecall Aini, which means that
nothing goes one way, right?
So the more you give, the moreyou're going to receive.
(27:52):
Right, and it's it has.
You have to, it's law, but youhave to receive.
Yeah, that's the thing youcould.
It's the big program that we'vejust got to blast out of the
water here, because, especiallywomen, we have this tendency to
give and give even when it comesempty.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Yes, yeah, yeah, you got to give some, take some,
yeah, and take those risks.
It's easy to sit there and justcome up with all these
different possible problems thatare going to arise, and
sometimes you just have to takethat leap of faith and move
forward.
But kudos for everything thatyou've been through and look
where you are today and howyou're helping so many people.
(28:31):
It's wonderful.
It feels good and letting go ofexactly that.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Just say yes.
I say to my students just sayyes.
Like even at the beginning,when we first start our training
, I get them to book in theirfirst ceremony, even when they
just know nothing, they're green, and they're like what?
And I'm like just say yes, justdo it, Because one thing is,
you're going to get moreconfidence, feel more
comfortable.
Just got to take the steps inthe direction you want to go,
(28:57):
don't you?
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Oh, yeah, for sure.
Yeah, I mean after I had heardI think it was Madonna who had
said that she was so nervoussinging at the Superbowl.
And I'm like Madonna, you know,like everything she's been
through.
So everybody's nervous,Everybody gets scared, but you
just have to try to push throughthat and look what amazing
things happen in your life whenyou take that leap of faith.
So wonderful.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
We're nervous because we care.
If you didn't care, youwouldn't be nervous, and I also
really feel that the linebetween nervousness and
excitement is so tiny.
It's exactly the same sensationin the body, sure.
Yeah, and the only differenceis breath.
(29:45):
When you're excited, you've gotthat you know in the stomach
but you're like.
But when you're nervous you'relike, you know.
So if we can lean into thesensation that's there when we
feel the nervousness and relaxthe solar plexus and breathe,
then the nervousness can veryquickly flip and become.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Right.
I tell my students, if you canget yourself all worked up, we
would call it like riled, riledup, right, worked up, you're
able to get yourself excited.
You know, turn some music onand just get yourself so excited
and shift the energy.
This is how you can do it.
So change the way you look atthings, right?
I?
Speaker 2 (30:27):
love that Absolutely yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
So, when it is time for you to get an energetic tune
up, what are some qualitiesthat you look for in a shamanic
healer?
Speaker 2 (30:47):
for me.
Um, okay, so I'm a bit of astrange one because I don't go
to healers at all.
Um, I don't know well, I justdon't ever feel to.
I feel that I am I for whateverreason.
The way I'm made up, like evenin that six month period that I
was telling you about, afterthat harrowing journey for me to
go and find people to assist me, that in itself was unusual.
I needed to because I was atthat point where I was just like
(31:09):
someone's got to help me dosomething here.
But I think what I learned fromthat journey and over and over
in time, is that my practice isI've I've really kind of taught
myself by flexing that muscleand going deeper and
understanding the power that Ihave as an alchemist, that we
all have as an alchemist, thatwe are able to transmute and
(31:32):
transform that energy withinourself.
And the healers that I workwith are my mountains, it's the
earth, it's the element.
So that's who I call on when Ineed healing.
And what happens for mepersonally is often that happens
in a liminal state.
They'll come in while I'meither sleeping or in the
in-between and lucidly I can seeand know exactly what's going
(31:55):
on and that's where I receive mytune-ups and my healing.
So for me personally and I'm notsaying that people shouldn't go
to healers, I think it's peopleneed it.
It's just for me personally,that seems to be the way that I
work.
But yeah, if I was looking fora practitioner of any kind,
(32:17):
there's the cicadas comingconfirmation.
If I was looking for apractitioner of any kind, my
question would cicadas comingconfirmation.
If I was looking for apractitioner of any kind, my
question would be do they walktheir talk Like?
Are they practicing what theypreach?
Because that, for me, is of theutmost integrity and
impeccability, beautiful.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
So what advice would you give someone who's just
entering this profession?
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Into energy work?
Absolutely, yeah, I would say.
The biggest advice would beactually, what I said before is
remembering that you, that we,are crystals.
That is the power of the truth,of who we really are.
Even our physical body, whenyou break it down, is made up of
(33:05):
the same stuff as a crystalwould be.
So when you think about acrystal, what does a crystal do?
It takes the energy in.
It doesn't judge the energy.
It doesn't say good, bad, rightor wrong.
It understands that the energyis neutral.
And as soon as the energytouches the surface of that
crystal, regardless of whetherit's heavy energy or light
(33:27):
energy, the crystal, by nature,because it knows who it is,
transforms that energy into thehighest frequencies of light, of
love, and then sends that outas a blessing.
And when we really rememberthat we are that and we start to
become conscious of what we'retaking in with every breath in
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and what we're giving out withevery breath out, then we are
setting ourselves up to receivethe higher frequency of energies
because we're becoming vigilantand aware, and that's through
presence.
So if you're moving into anyprofession where you're working
in the realms of energy, it'sreally imperative to understand
(34:10):
that, that you know, as we saidbefore, you're a conduit for
this energy to, and when you,when you know yourself as the
crystal and you're conscious ofhow you're transforming the
energy, then you don't even.
You know.
I think in the old, in the oldschool, we used to give the
energy, the heavy energy, to theearth.
You know from her too.
we don't need to do that anymore.
(34:30):
We transform the energy right.
Rather than giving it to her orto the ocean or whatever to
transform, we breathe in theenergy from the earth or from
the ocean, that, thathigh-frequency energy, and that
alchemizes the heavy energy, theheavy process or whatever you
might have taken on fromsomebody in a session, and then,
as we let it go, we send it asblessings, as high-frequency
(34:55):
energy to be received back, andthat sets up a positive flow of
what we call Sami Aini, apositive flow of you give out
your blessings and that's whatyou receive back.
So I think that nuance andunderstanding how energy moves
is most important, because thenyou don't take stuff on and if
(35:15):
you do, you know how to clear it.
Like that, Beautiful, beautiful.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
I love that.
That's a really greatdescription to tell people
that's what we learn in Reikitoo.
You know how to clear it likethat.
Beautiful, beautiful.
I love that.
It's a really great descriptionto tell people that's what we
learn in Reiki too.
You know, you send it to theearth, you send it to your
higher self.
So, yeah, another wonderfultechnique.
I love it.
I love it.
So what books do you recommend?
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Ooh, that's a good question.
Okay, one of my favorite booksis called Brotherhood of the
Magi and the author's name isjust leaving my, but if you look
at Brotherhood of the Magiyou'll find it.
I was given that book and theperson that gave it to me said I
(35:56):
think you're going to find thisfascinating, it's you.
And I was like really.
And then I read it, I was like,oh, that's a bit, but it's just
a really good because it's abook that's fiction, but it's
really fact.
Another one is Return of theInca, I think Joan Parsi Wilcox,
and another one that waswritten by one of my maestros
(36:20):
called Don Sebastian, is theAndean Codex.
Just amazing, how, yeah, I mean,some of the things that I've
experienced and seen wouldreally make your toes curl.
I mean, we know of these thingshappening in the etheric realms
and we know that they're trueetheric realms, and we know that
they're true.
But when you actually see it infront of you, you're just like
(36:43):
you know even me, who's beenworking in these realms for
years I'm like, oh, what's goingon?
You know like beingsmaterializing in front of you.
You're like huh.
You know like solid.
You know, yeah, and this is.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
You know we see this in the yogic traditions too,
because they're masters ofliving energy right, yes.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
They know how to make time this way.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Beautiful.
So what other services do youoffer?
Retreats, ceremonies, onlineofferings yes all of the above.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
I take people to Peru every year.
So this year 2025, there's afew journeys that we're doing.
I've been doing that againsince 2013.
So we really see and work inthe Andes like locals, you know,
in beautiful surroundings.
I've learned over time thatit's important for people to
(37:37):
have nice places to land, sure,so it's very nourishing and
nurturing.
But we're working a lot in themountains and we travel around a
lot to very powerful sacredsites, because I really believe
that these sacred sites hold thekeys to what we're meant to
know now, like I really reallybelieve that those ancient
(37:57):
masters you know in the Andes,they were largely the Lemurian
masters and they coded thesetemples and these sacred sites
with codes of remembering for usto receive and when we enter
those frequencies, you can'thelp but get the downloads you
know, for your own path and foreverything.
So, yeah, it's beautiful.
(38:19):
And then I do online trainingsas well.
So I've got a 12-monthapprenticeship just about to
start, called humpy canoester,which means the healer priestess
.
It's for medicine women andthat's um, taught alongside of
my maestro puma, so he's directfrom the andes and we also have
um, our brothers and sistersthere in the andes medicine, men
medicine women that teach onthat also.
(38:40):
So that's a beautiful,immersive container.
And then Wilkasuyu, which isthe art of ceremonial space,
working with the medicine ofcacao.
So if you feel a calling to bein service in that way to serve
medicine, but a medicine that issafe yet profound and can be
woven in with any other modality, then that's a three month
(39:01):
apprenticeship, which isbrilliant.
And then there's yeah, there'sceremonies and and retreats also
.
I've got one just on nextweekend actually, so you can
check it out on my website.
It tells you what's where, where, where is happening and what's
happening Wonderful.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
And on your.
You have a really wonderfulwebsite.
I encourage listeners to checkit out.
You have a little shop, youhave free tools like the art of
the altar and setting sacredspace, and you have, like this
library as well, on there ofinformation.
So yeah, so check that out.
So where can we find you online, in in person, if they're
(39:37):
interested in connecting withyou?
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Yeah, I'd say that Instagram is probably the best
way.
It's anchoring the light onInstagram, same as my website,
and I'd love to offer yourlisteners a.
Actually there's a beautifulcourse that I have called Be the
Crystal and it's phenomenal forthis, talking about everything
(40:03):
we've been talking about.
It's very deep.
It goes right into all of theshamanic perspectives and
understandings of working withenergy and building resilience.
So I would love to offer thatto your listeners.
If they send, let's say, thecode can be resilience, or say
(40:24):
resilience, and if they sendthat to the Instagram DM, then
we will send them the link forBe the Crystal Beautiful.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
So this ends the first part of our journey and
I'm going to continue with youon to the second part, which are
questions from listeners andenergy workers.
So here we go.
Number one you offer the art ofceremonial space.
How can your apprenticeshipprogram assist me in diving
deeper into my practice?
Speaker 2 (40:53):
That's a great question.
So we it's incredible with withWilka Suyu, the art of
ceremonial space, the peoplethat join that, because we have
everything from people that arejust beginning to very, very
experienced.
I had one lady come who hasactually been serving ayahuasca
for 15 years and she was like,oh my gosh, I got more out of
(41:14):
this than I did from my shapibolineage and I'm like wow, it's
really really rich.
So the whole purpose ofWilkasuyu is to get you so clear
in your container that you are,you know how the energy is
moving, you know who you'reworking with and why, that the
container becomes self-sourcing,so that, as I said before, know
(41:38):
you're not having to do so much.
Rather, you know how to be anddirect the energy from the
centre of that container andthen when we marry, that you
know the whole thing about thatis that includes everything we
do before the formal ceremonythat people don't see you know,
everything before, everything inthe set-up of it, everything
(42:00):
when you're with the people, andhow to facilitate that space
and work with the medicine.
We are working with cacao inthat ceremony to open those
portals and those doorways sothat transformation can happen
while they're in your space, inyour ceremony, and then how we
work with the journey tofacilitate that.
So in Wilkasuyu we do a monthof breath work.
(42:23):
We have somatic movement, wehave medicine songs for a month,
learning how to to use song andinstruments to, you know,
facilitate the space, shamanicjourneying and shamanic drumming
.
So when people leave thatthey're really loaded up with um
, feeling super confident that,whatever modality they want to
(42:44):
work with because, trust me,I've been in for example, I had
some people come into a retreatand do a breath work for me that
had trained with somebody whowas an amazing breath worker and
I know she's incredible but allhell broke loose in the space
because somebody went into a bigprocess and they froze, yeah,
and they didn't know what to do.
They panicked.
(43:05):
They're like looking, and I waslike I was down because I was
just feeling the energy and Ijust jumped up because I felt it
and I felt that there was apanic.
They didn't know what to dobecause they hadn't been trained
.
So I guess the question is, iswhat kind of space do you just
want to have, like I call themhokey pokey spaces, where you
just dip your toe in and you dipyour toe out, like yeah, that
(43:26):
really.
I mean it's nice and people areyeah, you know like get a fluffy
little experience, but do youwant to facilitate something?
That's like, yeah, bring it,whatever it is, we're going to
move it, you know, and thattakes some skills.
So yeah, I hope that answersthe question it'll help, and in
your personal practice too,because it's like it's a dieta
with the medicine as well.
(43:47):
So we're working.
You know when you're in thatcontainer for three months.
We've got 22 calls in threemonths yeah and so you're like
being accountable, you'reshowing up, you're there and and
the feedback that we get frompeople's also their personal
growth on is just, is justphenomenal, as well as what it
gives them for theirfacilitation.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
Right, right, I like that.
It's the three months and thenthe 12 months.
It just in my observation, eversince COVID happened, it
brought forth opportunities oflearning through YouTube, other
different schools, where you cansay, oh, I'm going to get this
program for $9.99, and I'll havemyself a little certification.
(44:29):
And then it began, you know,popping up really in the last
two years, people doing, youknow, I spent a week, they spent
a weekend learning the soundbowls or they took a couple
hours and now they're doing thecat cow ceremonies and so I
really love that.
Now things are starting to shift, that we're seeing that we have
these people that really justonly did a few hours of training
(44:49):
and now we're stepping back andsaying, okay, the
apprenticeships are veryimportant, you need to go a
little bit deeper with this.
So I'm glad you know you're hereto offer that, you know,
opportunity for people to go alittle bit deeper, because they
do get caught up in, oh, but Ican do this for $10.
I've had people say, well, whyshould I do your training for X
(45:10):
amount of dollars when I cantake it over here for 20 bucks?
And it's just the quality and Idon't think they get it when
they get in, where you know.
I had my experience with thestudent where, okay, there's
just a certain point where youneed to refer it.
I mean, when you're starting todeal with demonic energy,
things like that, that's outthere, beyond your area of
(45:33):
expertise, when people are doingblack magic or glam magic and
they're not understanding thatyou can bring harm into your
home and your family, and it'snot something to mess with that
to take this time to learn this,get the skill and do what you
did go to the mountains, listen,take the advice, learn and grow
(45:54):
and work on yourself.
So I like seeing that theapprenticeships are coming
forward to help.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
I cannot agree more.
I've got goosebumps, as you'resharing, and it's about the
embodiment.
This is the thing An embodimentdoesn't happen over a weekend.
It's a process that takes alifetime.
And for me, why I won'tcompromise on this, like you
know, by offering these littlethings, is because that how I
had to learn, as I shared withyou.
(46:22):
Now I know that most peopledon't have or, you know, for
whatever reason, won't have theopportunity, may not have the
opportunity to do it in the waythat I did, and, honestly, it's
not that easy to do it like thatanymore, because things have
changed so much.
Sure, sure.
What I'm interested in doing iskind of curating a space where
you get that same feeling, thatsame experience.
(46:47):
And this is what's so amazingabout the online is because if I
was to try and condense thatthree months into a two-week
in-person, yeah, you're going toget the stuff, but you've got
no time to put it into practicein your life and your body.
When you've got to show up forone, you know, on one week, and
you're going right intosomething, and then for the next
week you observe how you workwith that during the week, how
(47:07):
you're working with that thingand moving that energy, and then
, oh, you know, you've still gota long way to go.
Remember, you know, even whenMaestro Puma was a kid, you know
, even when Maestro Puma was akid, they still, back then, were
spending a minimum of solarreturn to solar return.
So that's like a three-monthequinox to solstice minimum on
one mountain or on one.
(47:28):
Usually it was a year on justone mountain, and we start with
a minimum of four and eventuallyyou work up to 16, right, but
you've got four.
That's one year they used to do, and one year per element, one
year per direction.
And now we're like because andnormal too, because we're in the
quickening and and your mom waslike, wake up, wake up, wake up
(47:50):
.
So, everything's happening fast,but we want to hurry slowly.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
Yes, it sure is.
Everybody wants to move at thislightning fast pace, and they
really have to take the time forthis.
This is serious, deep work here.
So, number two, tell me aboutyour approach to anchoring the
light.
Speaker 2 (48:16):
Okay, so anchoring the light.
I think that, really, thischanges over time.
It's the same thing.
It never changes, and then it'sconstantly changing as well,
which is the nature of light, bythe way.
If you think about it, we'realways moving from day and
tonight, but actually the lightalways remains.
It's the sun is always shiningsomewhere on the earth.
(48:38):
So I guess, as I'm saying it,that's anchoring the light as
well, and the way that it cameabout was probably about 10
years ago.
I was facilitating at a bigfestival and they asked me to
sum up what I did in three words, and I'm like whoa, because I
never know what to say whenpeople ask me.
I'm like, oh, you know, know,I'm always at a loss, and so it
(48:59):
was like anchoring the light.
So what does that mean?
It's really, as I've put thereon my website, to to remember
the truth of who we really are,that we are seeds of love that
have come here to be conduitsfor the earth.
So in that same, you know, inthat remembering of who we are,
(49:23):
then we are able to alchemizeand transform whatever is
happening around us, and this iswhat the earth needs, this is
what humanity needs.
And the more anchored we can bein our light, the more
resilient we are, the more webecome the lighthouse for others
, not by doing anything, butsimply by being.
We can help to, not by forcingand saying, hey, you come over
(49:46):
here, but just by being anchoredin your light you naturally
switch on.
Ah, you know, people can feelthat frequency, they can feel
that energy, and so it's reallyour, our service to Pachamama is
to anchor the light, to anchorour light, to remember the truth
of who we really are.
I always say that Pachamamadoesn't need saving.
(50:08):
That's something that us, inour arrogance, have decided that
she needs.
What she needs is for us towake up and remember the truth
of who we really are.
Once we do that, once werealize that we are the highest
frequencies of light, we are thehighest frequencies of love.
That's not loving lightingthings, I'm not saying it from a
woo-woo perspective of, justyou know, bypass the shadow.
(50:30):
We go into the shadow, likeLuke Skywalker with his
lightsaber, like you know,knowing that we've got the
source at our back.
We are the light and we can gointo those processes and those
heavier frequencies as light.
We don't have to bypass it, wealchemize.
So anchoring the light is aprocess of, yeah, remembering
(50:54):
who we really are, as divinealchemists, as crystals that can
transform any energy into thehighest frequencies of light and
anchor it into the earth andour service.
Speaker 1 (51:04):
Beautiful.
I love that.
Number three you offer avariety of resources on your
website.
Out of all the services,trainings, modalities that you
offer, what is the one tool thatyou practice consistently or
modality in your own personallife or practice?
Speaker 2 (51:23):
All of them.
I don't teach anything that Idon't do myself.
And this is one of the reasonsthat I I laugh about this I have
recorded content on, especiallyon, my Wilkasuyu training.
And the reason that I haverecorded content?
Because if I didn't, then youwould not understand what I was
(51:47):
talking about, because I'malways I'm sure you're like this
too, tracy I'm always up,leveling and moving and there's
new things and there's newinformation coming and you can
forget that you've got therebecause you've been doing this
for years and you've done thework and and it's you know.
But if you try and share thatwith people that are just
starting, they're like what?
(52:07):
So having everything that I'msharing is stuff I've embodied.
Once I've embodied it, you know, then I share it and I and if I
haven embodied it yet, then Ipractice more and I practice
more until I'm like oh yeah,this is how it goes.
So with the Wilkasuyu training,for example, that's not
(52:27):
something I was taught, that wassomething that I've embodied
through my years of work as aceremonialist, and now I am
sharing it with people in a waythat, in as 3D way as I can,
gives you a template that kindof makes sense that you can then
put it into practice, buteverything that I share is what
(52:49):
I do.
Speaker 1 (52:50):
Beautiful.
I love it.
I love it.
So that was our last questionand, as we've been talking, is
there something that you mayhave forgotten or something
you'd like to share?
Speaker 2 (53:00):
the floor is yours oh , thank you so much.
No, I I feel complete.
I feel like we've covered a lot.
There's always more, you know,that's the thing.
There is always more and, uh,I'm just very, very grateful to
be, to have the opportunity tobe here.
I actually there is one littlething, because before we got on
the call today, we had sometrickster energies at play.
(53:23):
That were really trying theirdarndest for this conversation
not to happen, and you and Iwere both on our other sides of
the world, having not met eachother yet, and we're both tuning
in Because there's adiscernment isn't there.
It's like there's a push thatcomes from the the ego of this
(53:44):
has to happen, and then there'sa like hang on a second is this,
is this some?
You know, this obstacle issomething that is there, that we
need to move through right yes,yes so I was sharing with Tracy
that, um, you know we're doingall the logistical things.
And then I was like I heard mymountains come in and say, hey,
(54:05):
remember us, oh my god, and Iput everything down, I get my
mess up and I'm like, okay,whatever this interference is, I
need you to go in, I need youto clear it, I need you to talk
to the mountains that are inTracy's area.
Fix this technological issue.
I even had we even have stonesin our messer for technology,
yes, and so as soon as Iremembered to work on the level
(54:25):
of energy, we got online.
Yes so remember that even if youcan't see it, it doesn't mean
it's not happening.
Sure, you connect your phone toyour Bluetooth speaker and the
sound comes out, right happening.
You connect your phone to yourBluetooth speaker and the sound
comes out, and I think, for ourhealing to be effective and
(54:45):
sorry, I just have to say thisbecause I think it's really
important.
As a healer, all you can everdo is offer your best with all
your heart, in your integrityand your impeccability.
But it is not up to you whetherthe person receives that
healing or not.
That is entirely free will andthat is up to them.
So we can't be attached to whenwe've, you know, given and you
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know, bless someone with ourhealing and if it doesn't work,
then that's not up to you tomake it work.
That's for the person to receiveit.
We can only ever offer it.
So I think that's a reallyimportant one to know.
But to remember that for ourhealing to be effective whether
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the person realizes it or not,because yes or yes, they're
receiving it You've got to gobeyond trusting it.
Speaker 1 (55:35):
You got to know that it's happening without any doubt
, right right, right, and whathappened to us just before this
was really skill and action,because you had no idea what the
landscape here I'm in El Paso,texas, which has the mountains,
right, and there's oneparticular mountain that has a
star on it.
So if you Google El Paso,you'll see that.
(55:57):
And I had a student who now hasbecome a really good friend and
she's from Germany and she saidshe would just drive and she'd
see the mountains here and she'dask every day, what story do
you want to tell me?
What's the story?
And as you were talking and youhad said I went to the
mountains, right, I would thinkof that story.
(56:18):
What's the story you want totell me today?
So that's just showing you howconnected we were in that moment
of trying to get past whateverthat was that was preventing us
from connecting today.
I mean, we had to redo thingsand reset things, but it was a
reset right, starting over, sothat we could connect.
Speaker 2 (56:38):
Yes, I've got the truth bumps.
I love it.
Speaker 1 (56:41):
How cute truth bumps.
Well, thank you, gemma, forjoining me on this journey.
I really appreciated takingtime out of your really busy
schedule.
I know you have a lot going on.
You have your bigapprenticeship coming up and
looking at your calendar online.
You have an amazing websitewith so much resource.
So thank you for putting allthat together and being a source
(57:04):
of support and encouragementand loving light to the world.
So thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (57:10):
Thank you so much for having me, Tracy Wonderful.
Speaker 1 (57:14):
You too Well.
Thank you, my wonderfullisteners.
If you'd like your questionfeatured on Ready Set Reiki,
reach out wwwreadysetreikicom.
I'm Tracy C Wright and this hasbeen Ready Set Reiki.
Thank you.
This is Ready Set Reiki, a podcast about Reiki and
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Reiki is a journey and not adestination, and on this Ready
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Today joining me is Gemma Godd.
Now she is a modern medicinewoman, a retreat leader, healer
and ceremonialist specializingin energy healing and spiritual
guidance, offering deep,transformational work globally
from Australia, bali, peru andmore.
Now her approach is anchoringthe light, emphasizing the
connection between mind, bodyand spirit, aiming to facilitate
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deep healing and inner harmonyfor her clients and empowering
others to remember their truedivine nature.
Her mission is to assist othersto become creators of their own
reality and transform their ownlives.
In that way, she has profoundlytransformed her own.
Her story is a testament to thepotential for the personal
growth and healing throughconnection to oneself and the
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world around.
Welcome, gemma, to Ready SetReiki.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Thank you so much for having me, Tracy.
I am delighted to be here withyou.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Wonderful.
Well, I can tell that you'reprobably going to be a big guest
on here, because you know wehad a little bit of trouble
connecting today, but it's allgood, we're here and we're going
to start this journey together.
So I can't wait.
So I'm just knowing thatthere's going to be a very
powerful connection today.
So, as we begin our journey,tell us a little bit about
(01:54):
yourself.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Okay, well, I have a very, very colorful history.
I often say that I've alreadylived about 50 lifetimes just in
this one.
I think that's probably becauseyou know, if you're watching
this, you have some level ofawareness that this is our
lifetime of mastery.
So I feel that the rapid speedat which we are reinventing
ourselves continuously andmoving through our experiences
(02:18):
as we grow is kind of happeningon light speed at the moment.
So, yeah, I was just reflectingon my journey with actually
with Reiki.
That was in my early 20s.
I studied Reiki with my teacherback at the time and that was
kind of the beginning of myjourney, I guess, into this
shamanic path.
As a kid I experienced tons ofstuff, you know, as I'm sure a
(02:42):
lot of children do, but I didn'treally have the.
I had very well-meaning parents, but I definitely didn't have
an environment around me thatcould explain to me what was
happening or help me to managewhat I was experiencing.
So I started to teach myselfrituals and ceremonies back then
and when I look back now I'mlike, wow, this makes so much
sense as to why I have thisinnate love of ceremony and
(03:07):
ritual.
That is really, you know, sortof punctuates all of the work
that I do now.
Even as a kid I rememberbadgering the Catholic priest in
the school that I went tobecause there was only allowed
to be altar boys and Iknew that ceremony inside out,
back to front, and I was like Iwant to be an altar girl.
You know, it wasn't so much, itwas just like I loved the bell
(03:28):
ringing and the thing and all ofthe you know, all of that
ritual that went along with it.
And so, yeah, fast forward.
I guess, um, into my 20s and um, when things really began to
open up for me, when I began tomeditate a lot, I was doing a
method called transcendentalVedic meditation twice a day,
(03:48):
which is a very beautiful I'msure people are aware of it if
you're not check it out.
It's a beautiful meditation forreally just emptying yourself
out and being in your stillnessand coming back to Center.
But what I didn't realize wouldhappen is that the flood gates
would open and boy did they open, you know, and all of the
psychic stuff started comingthrough and that was a massive
(04:09):
journey to learn how to navigatethat.
I had a year and a half of whatpeople would, I guess, nowadays
call a spiritual awakening forme.
I didn't even realize that waswhat was happening.
It was just huge and intenseand people started dropping away
out of my life and you know,this is something that I think a
lot of us go through as westart moving through this
process and you start tonavigate your way in this new
(04:34):
reality and I feel that rightnow, in this time and space that
we're in now, it's happening topeople much faster, much more
spontaneously.
And this is where I think youknow podcasts like yours is so
helpful because it helps peopleto navigate what's happening and
to know that they're not alone.
So then, all the way throughoutmy 30s, I had a really acute
(05:00):
and innate awareness of therebeing something more in my work
really began on myself, in, youknow, sort of like my early to
mid-20s continued and then Iended up.
I had a raw food business andthis was really beautiful
because this was a way of mebringing medicine through food.
So the sort of our tagline, Iguess you would say, was living
(05:23):
food, loving vibration, and allof the food was made with
crystals.
It was all charged with energyand prayer and that really, I
say, was my beginning of myjourney with plant medicine,
because food is where plants,we're working with plants, and I
started working with the Andeansuperfoods back then, like
cacao and maca, or mesquitesfrom Mexico, but lucumo and you
(05:44):
know these, these amazing foodsthat ancient people had worked
with for many years, that held avibrational quality as well as
being incredible for the body.
And actually the message that Igot back then, because I didn't
want it to be a business.
I had no interest in makingthis my business, it was my
passion, but I had a a galacticbeing appear to me and this is
(06:06):
back in 2007 and tell me thatthere was a time coming where
even people that were doing thework on the level of energy,
that were awakening that theirphysical bodies wouldn't be able
to integrate the high level offrequencies, yeah, were to come,
and so I.
It wasn't really a choice to dothis, it was a yes or yes,
(06:28):
because what they wanted me todo was make this way of being
available to the masses, tocrystalline the body as much as
possible to allow thosefrequencies to be more easily
assimilated and integrated.
And, of course, at the timeyou're just like, okay, you know
, and you kind of go along withit.
You're just like, okay, youknow, and you kind of go along
with it, and and it was, it wasbooming, you know.
And then later, in retrospect,you're like, ah, that's what it
(06:52):
was all about.
So then from there, during thatphase, during that time that I
was doing that, had thatbusiness and was doing that work
, in 2011, I headed over toSouth America and in January
2012, I found myself in Peru.
I hadn't planned to go there,but my ex-partner, he, really
(07:13):
wanted to go, so I went and assoon as my feet hit the ground
in Cusco, I was flooded like atsunami of memory and emotion.
You know, and I know peopleexperience that at places that
we go to.
When you connect to your soulancestry, you know your soul
lineage beyond the blood and thebones.
(07:35):
And that's what happened for meand it was very fast.
And not long after that, after apretty harrowing experience
with some plant medicine there,I had that's, a pretty harrowing
experience with, uh, some, someplant medicine there.
Uh, I had um, that's a wholeother subject, I don't know if
we'll get into that today, butthat was a very, very difficult
and it's relevant becausethere's so much of that going on
(07:55):
now.
Yes, people are being blownapart and finding it so hard to
come back, and this was 13 yearsago for me now, and that was
massive and it was six months ofreally being on the edge of
psychosis, you know.
And the way that I found my wayback was through an elder that
I met from the Andes, called DonBasilio, who saw what was going
(08:18):
on and in 20 minutes did whatnobody else I'd seen so many
people, healers, to try and helpme to come back into the, and
no one could help.
And then he came along with hismesser medicine bundle with a
little bell, some mapacho, someagua florida, flower water, and
in a simple, humble, no frillslie down ceremony.
(08:39):
In 20 minutes he called me backinto my body.
I landed with a thud like thejourney was so still so clear in
my mind today and from thatminute forward I knew that was
my path.
I knew that this was I don'tknow.
It just resonated with me onevery level, on every cell, and
just the humility, yet the power, just through this communion
(09:03):
and connection to these verypowerful guardians, that these
people, particularly the Apus,the mountains and Pachamama, the
earth and the cosmic guardiansas well, you know from the stars
, but it's very grounded, it's avery grounded tradition and I
needed that.
So that became the beginning ofmy path and my journey into the
(09:25):
shamanic work that I've doneever since, and it took me four
years to unravel myself out ofmy business.
I ended up giving it away InJanuary of 2017.
I walked away from it and thenfrom there on my work that I do
now, even though I was doing itthe whole time while I was in.
That business was kind of I usethe analogy it was like being
on the freeway in a Ferrari anddropping the handbrake, you know
(09:45):
and it just, everything justwent and you know, from there on
it's just been exponential.
So, yes, my work is withancestral medicine, but it's
only less and less I serve themedicine these days.
It's more about quality thanquantity for me.
But what I learn from themedicine, what I've learned from
that experience, what thatopens, translates through
(10:06):
everything that I do and reallymy mission is just to empower
and uplift in the best way thatI can and help people remember
the truth of who they really areand their innate wisdom that
everything is to self-source.
You know it's in here, we don'tneed to always be looking to
the outside.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Very good, yeah.
So you've always been someonewho's been empathetic ability,
sensitivities.
You've turned these things intoa beautiful superpower.
So when you talk about yourexperiences of being this modern
medicine, woman and energyhealing, would you say that this
found you or you found it?
How did how did this come about?
Was it just something that youjust felt that pulling, or you
know something that you werechasing?
Speaker 2 (10:53):
It is such a good question and a hundred percent
it found me.
There's not even a questionabout that.
I think before that there was anatural.
Uh, I wouldn't even, I guessthere was a seeking.
Yes, you know, I think there'sso much out there was a natural.
I wouldn't even I guess therewas a seeking.
Yes, you know, I think there'sso much out there for us to try
on for size and to see how itresonates with us.
(11:13):
And you know, I've often, for along time, I've lived in
conscious communities.
I say that because, you know,it's just these hubs around the
world where there is so much onoffer.
Oh, my goodness, that it's awonderful place to practice
discernment, because not all ofit's awesome.
You know, there's all the shinythings, but when this came
through, what actually happenedand how I was initiated onto
(11:36):
this path is I had a coca leafreading with my dearest teacher
still now, and he and I nowteach together, side by side,
but amazing, maestro Puma.
And back in 2013 he threw thecoca leaves, which is what they
work with as an oracle, yes, andhe looks in the leaves and he's
like, oh, hang on a second,let's check this again.
(11:57):
And then he throws it again.
He's like oof.
He said my princess.
He said don't let that blondehair and blue eyes fool you.
He said these are your arpus,meaning the mountains, and
you're a medicine woman and youneed to come back here as soon
as you can and train so againstall logical reason.
You know, I had 40 staff, I hada business.
(12:17):
That was not an easy business.
It looked great from theoutside, but try running uh
organic, uh wild crafted.
You know it's just.
The system is not set up tosupport that financially at all.
So I'm, you know I'm dealingwith all of that and here I'm
like I have to go to peru and soand I served a really
traditional apprenticeship.
(12:38):
It's very, very different towhat the western mind thinks an
apprenticeship is or what wewant.
It's not kind of like.
I show you, you do it.
It's I send you to themountains for 10 or 12 hours at
a time.
You sit there until themountains start speaking to you,
and then they'll start to teachyou, and then you come back and
(12:58):
you tell us what you heard, andthen we confirm it to be true,
right?
So you start to learn to listen.
You know, how we teach isdifferent now.
We kind of make it so that it'saccessible for people, but it
was tough, yeah, and there wasnot many well-dones or good job.
You know they don't work likethat.
It was more about stripping theego back.
(13:21):
Actually, um and you know,having this I always say it's
like learning to walk this fineline between, uh, confidence and
humility yeah you know, there'sa real mastery in that.
It's kind of being humble but atthe same time knowing when to
act and knowing when to stepforward.
(13:41):
So it definitely chose me.
It's's a path, it's a calling,and one that doesn't actually
make sense.
Like I look at myself, I lookin the mirror, I'm like huh,
like what is why?
Why can't I put this down?
Like I'm getting into my 14thyear of working deeply with this
and there's no part of me thatthinks I mean I just got married
(14:02):
and even my ring is my messer,my altar, and it has a band of
12 chakanas around it.
I mean it's just, it feels likeit's in my blood and my bones.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Hard to explain.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah, and the DNA right.
Orphanogenic field, yep.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Very good, Very good.
So you know, you told us alittle bit about some of the
work that you had to do tobecome this shamanic.
So what are some of themisconceptions about being a
shamanic?
Healing arts and ancestralmedicine I mean, there's so many
things out there, but as you'reout there doing the work, what
are you finding that people aremisunderstanding about it?
Speaker 2 (14:40):
That's really interesting.
That's a great question.
Actually, one of the things Ifeel pretty yeah, I'd say
passionate about is busting themyth that because you work in a
shamanic tradition and you workwith you know that kind of
lineage or those healingenergies, that you have to look
a certain way or dress a certainway or you know, there's a
(15:04):
whole kind of fashion.
Even that comes with what peoplethink it is to be a shamanic
practitioner and it's not.
It's got nothing to do withthat at all.
And one of the things for methat I've had to move through a
lot and I see it as a part of mypath and what makes me stronger
is judgment.
People come and and they see meand they're like what?
Like you don't look like.
(15:25):
You know you look like a Barbie.
We even laugh and call meShaman Barbie, like it's a joke
and we love it.
And you know that has a wholestory in itself.
And so what?
We're multidimensional,especially women.
You know we are so multifaceted.
We can have all the things.
I love having nice nails and Ilove dirt under them.
I like having good hair and Ilove it best when there's twigs
(15:48):
and sticks in it.
You know it's like it can beeverything.
So this thing that you have tobe one way, uh, or you have to
be this, it's like just feel thefrequency of who it is you're
working with, rather than gethoodwinked by, all of the right
jewelry and the right things onthe.
You know all of the things, sothat I think there's definitely
(16:08):
a misconception there with thatRight.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
That's the same way in yoga as well.
There's a traditional look foryoga and then you try to go into
that and but trying to get thatdiversity in it, so just
embracing the diversity of it,do you um have any kind of uh,
like you learned from yourteacher and you learned from the
mountains and having thoseexperiences?
(16:34):
Do you know like of othershamans who go to like a shaman
school or get other differenttypes of training?
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Not traditionally, traditionally that I know of
anyway.
Traditionally you are adoptedinto a lineage and that family's
lineage will be different tothe family that lives in the
community down the street.
The essence of it will be thesame, like, for example, we work
with the Mesa, which is themedicine bundle.
These traditions come fromKeros, which is right up high in
(17:04):
the mountain.
There's about seven communitiesin Kairos.
Each one of those families hastheir own way of working with
the Mesa, although it's similar.
And then my lineage is from aplace called Chinchero, which is
like the high mountain passbetween Cusco and the Sacred
Valley, and the way that theywork with the Mesa from this
lineage of the seven rays isdifferent again.
So, but I know that everybody,all of the Andean medicine men
(17:30):
and medicine women that I knowhave all passed through the same
process, and the most importantprocess of that is continuous
self-growth.
It is continuously beingwilling to go beyond your own
personal limitations, becauseyou can't facilitate for anybody
(17:50):
else if you're not able to holdthat space for yourself.
So that has to be number one,and I think there needs to be a
lot of that work happeningbefore you're even really ready
to step into facilitating thatdepth or level of space for
somebody else it's not somethingthat can be taught or learned
overnight.
I'm talking like in regards toserving ancestral medicine.
(18:14):
It's delicate.
Your opening fails.
You are working with differentlevels of energy, with different
levels of different realms, andyou really need to understand
and know what's happening on allof those levels and how to
navigate with that person inthat process.
You know, especially if theyshoot out, like I did, and you
need to be able to bring themback.
(18:34):
Yes, so that takes some skilland that takes some experience
and understanding of how to dothat.
And then we have tools andpractices that are very easily,
you know, learnable if you like.
You know it's we call it yet J,so we can give you the
knowledge, like we can teach youhow.
(18:55):
Like I've got a free masterclass just coming up and it's on
soul retrieval, right, so wecan give you tools, how to, how
to practice and perform a soulretrieval for yourself or for
others.
But that wisdom, that thatknowledge doesn't become wisdom
until you practice it and youembody it.
That's what we call yatchai.
So, yes, for sure we can giveyou, you know and you know um,
(19:21):
yeah, I'm sure there aretechniques passed down, but
ultimately it's like donequickly, it's like you do this,
you do this, you do this.
Yes, you know it's not like I'mgoing to show you and now we're
going to sit in a workshop andwe're all going to practice it
until you get it right.
Like for me when I learned tomake a despacho, which is a the,
the offering, the higher wikiri.
We call it traditional offeringoffering.
(19:42):
It's very elaborate and veryintricate and I was literally
given the despacho kit with thebits and pieces in it, put down
in front of me, and said do it.
And I'm like but what do I do?
There's like a hundred thingsin here and they're like listen
listen and follow what you hear,wow, you know.
so then, and then, when youembody it to a certain level and
(20:04):
it's seen that, ah, yep, she's,she's got it then they'll give
you a little bit moreinstruction, okay, so, now that
you've got that, now try it withthis, that programs for this,
this is for that, that onethat's to do more with the north
, this, this one's to do withthe South.
Okay, so then you go again.
You just keep, you know, likethis.
So I, you know it's, it'ssomething that is, it's a
(20:27):
lifetime's work, and that's theexciting and fun thing about it
is that you know the better itgets, the better it gets, and
you're always learning more.
Wonderful.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
And that's what's wonderful to have you on as a
shaman In my work.
You learned Reiki in thebeginning of your journey and
sometimes you have that clientthat you can only help them to a
certain point and you need torefer them to a shaman.
And I had a particular clientlike that, just what was coming
(20:57):
that way, and I just hit thatend of the road Like I've helped
you this much but I need torefer you to someone who can be
a little bit more in that pathwith you.
So that's what's important forour listeners.
You know the same kind of ideathat we're continuously working
on ourselves but yet, placingour ego aside, what's best for
the client.
You may have that point whereyou know what I have to refer
(21:20):
you to someone else, and sohaving this beautiful variety of
wonderful shaman out there thatcan help and assist for your
clients.
So that's why I feel it'simportant to be a part of the
Ready Set Reiki journey isbecause you know you're a helper
.
You're a helper with theclients, with the people, and
you know someone who's learningReiki may just feel.
(21:41):
You know what I feel, thecalling for that.
I've had some students I'vetrained and I could see that you
know you're.
I think, if you want to, you'reon that route to be a shaman
and they're just so surprised byit.
But you could just feel theirenergy that like, ah yeah, I
think you're in that directionif you choose to.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
So I think and that's such an important thing that
you touch on, it's really andthat's it's getting yourself out
of the way, which is also thekey to not to not burning out.
Yeah Right, Well, you think it'syou, and you think it's your
energy, and you think thatyou're doing it and you're,
you're in control of it withoutrealizing that what you are, you
know, I always say like holdingspace, for example, has nothing
(22:20):
to do with holding anything,and this is where the mistake is
made.
It's like holding.
What is that holding?
I'm holding it down, right, youare the space.
When you've done your work,when you've done your training,
when you're showing up as beingthe vessel for that healing and
all the energy is moving andarriving to you, like for me.
I work a lot with what we callthe su.
Use all the four directions,yes, cross of energy that's
(22:43):
arriving to you and then thespace holds itself from what
comes through you.
Right, the frequency doesn't,and it's the frequency that
takes care of the work.
That's what's doing the healing, your vessel or the crystal for
that frequency.
You receive the energy and thenyou emanate.
And for me it's like such abeautiful, too understanding,
(23:07):
because it helps us in ourpersonal journey to close the
gap on the formal ceremonialsession that you're in with your
client and life, because whenyou're in that session session,
you don't take on heavy energy,it's effortless.
And why?
Because you're present, becauseyou know why you're there, who
(23:28):
you are, you've opened thatspace correctly.
The energy is arriving to you,it's emanating from you.
It's taking care of it.
But the only reason we gettaken out in life is because
we're not being conscious.
If we could show up in life inthe way that we did in a session
the way that we did in aceremony, then life would be
much more.
Also, much more would be muchlighter and more effortless too,
(23:50):
I believe.
Yeah, so that's where I use mywork to always be ah, okay, so
if I'm like this over here, thenI want to be this over here and
closing the gap.
Wonderful, wonderful.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
So your mission is to assist others to become
creators of their own realityand transform their lives.
But has there been a time inyour life where you've had a
struggle or a challenge that youfaced on your own healing
journey?
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Oh my gosh, yes, many , I put my hand up for mastery
big time in this lifetime.
That's all I can tell you.
If an astrologer looks at mychart, they're like oh, they're
like that's not so great.
And I'm like, yeah, I know, Ithink I'm, I feel like I'm
(24:37):
pretty much done with the bigstuff now, to be honest.
To be honest, I had the first42 years of my life was intense.
I've been through two majorliquidations or bankruptcies.
I lost everything, but Iactually gained everything
through that process.
I mean huge.
one of them was on the frontpage of the newspaper and was
(25:00):
really public and at the sametime the person that I was
seeing who was in that industry.
We broke up, so that was a partof the headline, and my dad was
diagnosed with a terminalillness, so that was a part of
the headline.
Oh my goodness, so I literallywent overnight just from, and I
bounced, you know I came rightback up again and went, but
there was still clearlysomething to learn.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
So it's been a massive, massive journey.
But wow, you know, it doesn'tonly build resilience, it builds
absolute knowing it's beyondtrust, Right.
It's beyond trust.
It's knowing that when you areon your path in your service, in
your dharma, then you aresupported in a way that you
can't wrap your head in the 3Daround.
(25:45):
And for me, you know, because Itrain a lot of people now to
facilitate sacred spaces andthey want to just step straight
into it understandably, right,they want to Most of the people
that come through go on toreally receive abundantly for
themselves.
But the key to it is and I I'msuper grateful that I had some
(26:06):
income coming in when I wasfirst stepping into all of this,
because I I took the need foranything financial out of it.
Um, it just wasn't there.
I was first offering because Ijust loved it.
I just just loved it and so,naturally, the word started to
spread and people started tocome and then I was able to
(26:27):
charge for it.
And then, you know, slowly,over time, it changes and now
I've gone.
You know, I've just managed tobuild a couple of little places
in Bali and for someone that in2017, was like with nothing, yes
, to then get to that placewithout having borrowed any
(26:47):
money, without you know, I'mjust like I'm scratching my head
because on paper it doesn'tmake any sense.
Sure, on paper it's like huh,but it's not about being on
paper, you've got to get.
We have to kind of let go ofthat the how and just stay open
like you have your vision, youfeel what it is, you want to
(27:09):
move towards on your spiritualpath or whatever it is, and then
you've just got to be likeAlice in Wonderland and follow
the white rabbit, watch for thesigns and move in that direction
and always say thank you.
I mean for, for me, myrelationship with my guardians,
with my apples, my mountains,with bachamama, the earth and
the elements.
They're what get me throughevery single time.
(27:30):
So, um, it's really a beautifulthing because it's just a
feedback loop.
You know, it's not even aboutanything material.
It's just a feedback loop of,oh, okay, I'm, I'm on path, I'm
on purpose, I'm serving and I'min the reciprocal flow.
Right, what, in the end, is wecall Aini, which means that
nothing goes one way, right?
So the more you give, the moreyou're going to receive.
(27:52):
Right, and it's it has.
You have to, it's law, but youhave to receive.
Yeah, that's the thing youcould.
It's the big program that we'vejust got to blast out of the
water here, because, especiallywomen, we have this tendency to
give and give even when it comesempty.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Yes, yeah, yeah, you got to give some, take some,
yeah, and take those risks.
It's easy to sit there and justcome up with all these
different possible problems thatare going to arise, and
sometimes you just have to takethat leap of faith and move
forward.
But kudos for everything thatyou've been through and look
where you are today and howyou're helping so many people.
(28:31):
It's wonderful.
It feels good and letting go ofexactly that.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Just say yes.
I say to my students just sayyes.
Like even at the beginning,when we first start our training
, I get them to book in theirfirst ceremony, even when they
just know nothing, they're green, and they're like what?
And I'm like just say yes, justdo it, Because one thing is,
you're going to get moreconfidence, feel more
comfortable.
Just got to take the steps inthe direction you want to go,
(28:57):
don't you?
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Oh, yeah, for sure.
Yeah, I mean after I had heardI think it was Madonna who had
said that she was so nervoussinging at the Superbowl.
And I'm like Madonna, you know,like everything she's been
through.
So everybody's nervous,Everybody gets scared, but you
just have to try to push throughthat and look what amazing
things happen in your life whenyou take that leap of faith.
So wonderful.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
We're nervous because we care.
If you didn't care, youwouldn't be nervous, and I also
really feel that the linebetween nervousness and
excitement is so tiny.
It's exactly the same sensationin the body, sure.
Yeah, and the only differenceis breath.
(29:45):
When you're excited, you've gotthat you know in the stomach
but you're like.
But when you're nervous you'relike, you know.
So if we can lean into thesensation that's there when we
feel the nervousness and relaxthe solar plexus and breathe,
then the nervousness can veryquickly flip and become.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Right.
I tell my students, if you canget yourself all worked up, we
would call it like riled, riledup, right, worked up, you're
able to get yourself excited.
You know, turn some music onand just get yourself so excited
and shift the energy.
This is how you can do it.
So change the way you look atthings, right?
I?
Speaker 2 (30:27):
love that Absolutely yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
So, when it is time for you to get an energetic tune
up, what are some qualitiesthat you look for in a shamanic
healer?
Speaker 2 (30:47):
for me.
Um, okay, so I'm a bit of astrange one because I don't go
to healers at all.
Um, I don't know well, I justdon't ever feel to.
I feel that I am I for whateverreason.
The way I'm made up, like evenin that six month period that I
was telling you about, afterthat harrowing journey for me to
go and find people to assist me, that in itself was unusual.
I needed to because I was atthat point where I was just like
(31:09):
someone's got to help me dosomething here.
But I think what I learned fromthat journey and over and over
in time, is that my practice isI've I've really kind of taught
myself by flexing that muscleand going deeper and
understanding the power that Ihave as an alchemist, that we
all have as an alchemist, thatwe are able to transmute and
(31:32):
transform that energy withinourself.
And the healers that I workwith are my mountains, it's the
earth, it's the element.
So that's who I call on when Ineed healing.
And what happens for mepersonally is often that happens
in a liminal state.
They'll come in while I'meither sleeping or in the
in-between and lucidly I can seeand know exactly what's going
(31:55):
on and that's where I receive mytune-ups and my healing.
So for me personally and I'm notsaying that people shouldn't go
to healers, I think it's peopleneed it.
It's just for me personally,that seems to be the way that I
work.
But yeah, if I was looking fora practitioner of any kind,
(32:17):
there's the cicadas comingconfirmation.
If I was looking for apractitioner of any kind, my
question would cicadas comingconfirmation.
If I was looking for apractitioner of any kind, my
question would be do they walktheir talk Like?
Are they practicing what theypreach?
Because that, for me, is of theutmost integrity and
impeccability, beautiful.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
So what advice would you give someone who's just
entering this profession?
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Into energy work?
Absolutely, yeah, I would say.
The biggest advice would beactually, what I said before is
remembering that you, that we,are crystals.
That is the power of the truth,of who we really are.
Even our physical body, whenyou break it down, is made up of
(33:05):
the same stuff as a crystalwould be.
So when you think about acrystal, what does a crystal do?
It takes the energy in.
It doesn't judge the energy.
It doesn't say good, bad, rightor wrong.
It understands that the energyis neutral.
And as soon as the energytouches the surface of that
crystal, regardless of whetherit's heavy energy or light
(33:27):
energy, the crystal, by nature,because it knows who it is,
transforms that energy into thehighest frequencies of light, of
love, and then sends that outas a blessing.
And when we really rememberthat we are that and we start to
become conscious of what we'retaking in with every breath in
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and what we're giving out withevery breath out, then we are
setting ourselves up to receivethe higher frequency of energies
because we're becoming vigilantand aware, and that's through
presence.
So if you're moving into anyprofession where you're working
in the realms of energy, it'sreally imperative to understand
(34:10):
that, that you know, as we saidbefore, you're a conduit for
this energy to, and when you,when you know yourself as the
crystal and you're conscious ofhow you're transforming the
energy, then you don't even.
You know.
I think in the old, in the oldschool, we used to give the
energy, the heavy energy, to theearth.
You know from her too.
we don't need to do that anymore.
(34:30):
We transform the energy right.
Rather than giving it to her orto the ocean or whatever to
transform, we breathe in theenergy from the earth or from
the ocean, that, thathigh-frequency energy, and that
alchemizes the heavy energy, theheavy process or whatever you
might have taken on fromsomebody in a session, and then,
as we let it go, we send it asblessings, as high-frequency
(34:55):
energy to be received back, andthat sets up a positive flow of
what we call Sami Aini, apositive flow of you give out
your blessings and that's whatyou receive back.
So I think that nuance andunderstanding how energy moves
is most important, because thenyou don't take stuff on and if
(35:15):
you do, you know how to clear it.
Like that, Beautiful, beautiful.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
I love that.
That's a really greatdescription to tell people
that's what we learn in Reikitoo.
You know how to clear it likethat.
Beautiful, beautiful.
I love that.
It's a really great descriptionto tell people that's what we
learn in Reiki too.
You know, you send it to theearth, you send it to your
higher self.
So, yeah, another wonderfultechnique.
I love it.
I love it.
So what books do you recommend?
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Ooh, that's a good question.
Okay, one of my favorite booksis called Brotherhood of the
Magi and the author's name isjust leaving my, but if you look
at Brotherhood of the Magiyou'll find it.
I was given that book and theperson that gave it to me said I
(35:56):
think you're going to find thisfascinating, it's you.
And I was like really.
And then I read it, I was like,oh, that's a bit, but it's just
a really good because it's abook that's fiction, but it's
really fact.
Another one is Return of theInca, I think Joan Parsi Wilcox,
and another one that waswritten by one of my maestros
(36:20):
called Don Sebastian, is theAndean Codex.
Just amazing, how, yeah, I mean,some of the things that I've
experienced and seen wouldreally make your toes curl.
I mean, we know of these thingshappening in the etheric realms
and we know that they're trueetheric realms, and we know that
they're true.
But when you actually see it infront of you, you're just like
(36:43):
you know even me, who's beenworking in these realms for
years I'm like, oh, what's goingon?
You know like beingsmaterializing in front of you.
You're like huh.
You know like solid.
You know, yeah, and this is.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
You know we see this in the yogic traditions too,
because they're masters ofliving energy right, yes.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
They know how to make time this way.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Beautiful.
So what other services do youoffer?
Retreats, ceremonies, onlineofferings yes all of the above.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
I take people to Peru every year.
So this year 2025, there's afew journeys that we're doing.
I've been doing that againsince 2013.
So we really see and work inthe Andes like locals, you know,
in beautiful surroundings.
I've learned over time thatit's important for people to
(37:37):
have nice places to land, sure,so it's very nourishing and
nurturing.
But we're working a lot in themountains and we travel around a
lot to very powerful sacredsites, because I really believe
that these sacred sites hold thekeys to what we're meant to
know now, like I really reallybelieve that those ancient
(37:57):
masters you know in the Andes,they were largely the Lemurian
masters and they coded thesetemples and these sacred sites
with codes of remembering for usto receive and when we enter
those frequencies, you can'thelp but get the downloads you
know, for your own path and foreverything.
So, yeah, it's beautiful.
(38:19):
And then I do online trainingsas well.
So I've got a 12-monthapprenticeship just about to
start, called humpy canoester,which means the healer priestess
.
It's for medicine women andthat's um, taught alongside of
my maestro puma, so he's directfrom the andes and we also have
um, our brothers and sistersthere in the andes medicine, men
medicine women that teach onthat also.
(38:40):
So that's a beautiful,immersive container.
And then Wilkasuyu, which isthe art of ceremonial space,
working with the medicine ofcacao.
So if you feel a calling to bein service in that way to serve
medicine, but a medicine that issafe yet profound and can be
woven in with any other modality, then that's a three month
(39:01):
apprenticeship, which isbrilliant.
And then there's yeah, there'sceremonies and and retreats also
.
I've got one just on nextweekend actually, so you can
check it out on my website.
It tells you what's where, where, where is happening and what's
happening Wonderful.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
And on your.
You have a really wonderfulwebsite.
I encourage listeners to checkit out.
You have a little shop, youhave free tools like the art of
the altar and setting sacredspace, and you have, like this
library as well, on there ofinformation.
So yeah, so check that out.
So where can we find you online, in in person, if they're
(39:37):
interested in connecting withyou?
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Yeah, I'd say that Instagram is probably the best
way.
It's anchoring the light onInstagram, same as my website,
and I'd love to offer yourlisteners a.
Actually there's a beautifulcourse that I have called Be the
Crystal and it's phenomenal forthis, talking about everything
(40:03):
we've been talking about.
It's very deep.
It goes right into all of theshamanic perspectives and
understandings of working withenergy and building resilience.
So I would love to offer thatto your listeners.
If they send, let's say, thecode can be resilience, or say
(40:24):
resilience, and if they sendthat to the Instagram DM, then
we will send them the link forBe the Crystal Beautiful.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
So this ends the first part of our journey and
I'm going to continue with youon to the second part, which are
questions from listeners andenergy workers.
So here we go.
Number one you offer the art ofceremonial space.
How can your apprenticeshipprogram assist me in diving
deeper into my practice?
Speaker 2 (40:53):
That's a great question.
So we it's incredible with withWilka Suyu, the art of
ceremonial space, the peoplethat join that, because we have
everything from people that arejust beginning to very, very
experienced.
I had one lady come who hasactually been serving ayahuasca
for 15 years and she was like,oh my gosh, I got more out of
(41:14):
this than I did from my shapibolineage and I'm like wow, it's
really really rich.
So the whole purpose ofWilkasuyu is to get you so clear
in your container that you are,you know how the energy is
moving, you know who you'reworking with and why, that the
container becomes self-sourcing,so that, as I said before, know
(41:38):
you're not having to do so much.
Rather, you know how to be anddirect the energy from the
centre of that container andthen when we marry, that you
know the whole thing about thatis that includes everything we
do before the formal ceremonythat people don't see you know,
everything before, everything inthe set-up of it, everything
(42:00):
when you're with the people, andhow to facilitate that space
and work with the medicine.
We are working with cacao inthat ceremony to open those
portals and those doorways sothat transformation can happen
while they're in your space, inyour ceremony, and then how we
work with the journey tofacilitate that.
So in Wilkasuyu we do a monthof breath work.
(42:23):
We have somatic movement, wehave medicine songs for a month,
learning how to to use song andinstruments to, you know,
facilitate the space, shamanicjourneying and shamanic drumming
.
So when people leave thatthey're really loaded up with um
, feeling super confident that,whatever modality they want to
(42:44):
work with because, trust me,I've been in for example, I had
some people come into a retreatand do a breath work for me that
had trained with somebody whowas an amazing breath worker and
I know she's incredible but allhell broke loose in the space
because somebody went into a bigprocess and they froze, yeah,
and they didn't know what to do.
They panicked.
(43:05):
They're like looking, and I waslike I was down because I was
just feeling the energy and Ijust jumped up because I felt it
and I felt that there was apanic.
They didn't know what to dobecause they hadn't been trained
.
So I guess the question is, iswhat kind of space do you just
want to have, like I call themhokey pokey spaces, where you
just dip your toe in and you dipyour toe out, like yeah, that
(43:26):
really.
I mean it's nice and people areyeah, you know like get a fluffy
little experience, but do youwant to facilitate something?
That's like, yeah, bring it,whatever it is, we're going to
move it, you know, and thattakes some skills.
So yeah, I hope that answersthe question it'll help, and in
your personal practice too,because it's like it's a dieta
with the medicine as well.
(43:47):
So we're working.
You know when you're in thatcontainer for three months.
We've got 22 calls in threemonths yeah and so you're like
being accountable, you'reshowing up, you're there and and
the feedback that we get frompeople's also their personal
growth on is just, is justphenomenal, as well as what it
gives them for theirfacilitation.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
Right, right, I like that.
It's the three months and thenthe 12 months.
It just in my observation, eversince COVID happened, it
brought forth opportunities oflearning through YouTube, other
different schools, where you cansay, oh, I'm going to get this
program for $9.99, and I'll havemyself a little certification.
(44:29):
And then it began, you know,popping up really in the last
two years, people doing, youknow, I spent a week, they spent
a weekend learning the soundbowls or they took a couple
hours and now they're doing thecat cow ceremonies and so I
really love that.
Now things are starting to shift, that we're seeing that we have
these people that really justonly did a few hours of training
(44:49):
and now we're stepping back andsaying, okay, the
apprenticeships are veryimportant, you need to go a
little bit deeper with this.
So I'm glad you know you're hereto offer that, you know,
opportunity for people to go alittle bit deeper, because they
do get caught up in, oh, but Ican do this for $10.
I've had people say, well, whyshould I do your training for X
(45:10):
amount of dollars when I cantake it over here for 20 bucks?
And it's just the quality and Idon't think they get it when
they get in, where you know.
I had my experience with thestudent where, okay, there's
just a certain point where youneed to refer it.
I mean, when you're starting todeal with demonic energy,
things like that, that's outthere, beyond your area of
(45:33):
expertise, when people are doingblack magic or glam magic and
they're not understanding thatyou can bring harm into your
home and your family, and it'snot something to mess with that
to take this time to learn this,get the skill and do what you
did go to the mountains, listen,take the advice, learn and grow
(45:54):
and work on yourself.
So I like seeing that theapprenticeships are coming
forward to help.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
I cannot agree more.
I've got goosebumps, as you'resharing, and it's about the
embodiment.
This is the thing An embodimentdoesn't happen over a weekend.
It's a process that takes alifetime.
And for me, why I won'tcompromise on this, like you
know, by offering these littlethings, is because that how I
had to learn, as I shared withyou.
(46:22):
Now I know that most peopledon't have or, you know, for
whatever reason, won't have theopportunity, may not have the
opportunity to do it in the waythat I did, and, honestly, it's
not that easy to do it like thatanymore, because things have
changed so much.
Sure, sure.
What I'm interested in doing iskind of curating a space where
you get that same feeling, thatsame experience.
(46:47):
And this is what's so amazingabout the online is because if I
was to try and condense thatthree months into a two-week
in-person, yeah, you're going toget the stuff, but you've got
no time to put it into practicein your life and your body.
When you've got to show up forone, you know, on one week, and
you're going right intosomething, and then for the next
week you observe how you workwith that during the week, how
(47:07):
you're working with that thingand moving that energy, and then
, oh, you know, you've still gota long way to go.
Remember, you know, even whenMaestro Puma was a kid, you know
, even when Maestro Puma was akid, they still, back then, were
spending a minimum of solarreturn to solar return.
So that's like a three-monthequinox to solstice minimum on
one mountain or on one.
(47:28):
Usually it was a year on justone mountain, and we start with
a minimum of four and eventuallyyou work up to 16, right, but
you've got four.
That's one year they used to do, and one year per element, one
year per direction.
And now we're like because andnormal too, because we're in the
quickening and and your mom waslike, wake up, wake up, wake up
(47:50):
.
So, everything's happening fast,but we want to hurry slowly.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
Yes, it sure is.
Everybody wants to move at thislightning fast pace, and they
really have to take the time forthis.
This is serious, deep work here.
So, number two, tell me aboutyour approach to anchoring the
light.
Speaker 2 (48:16):
Okay, so anchoring the light.
I think that, really, thischanges over time.
It's the same thing.
It never changes, and then it'sconstantly changing as well,
which is the nature of light, bythe way.
If you think about it, we'realways moving from day and
tonight, but actually the lightalways remains.
It's the sun is always shiningsomewhere on the earth.
(48:38):
So I guess, as I'm saying it,that's anchoring the light as
well, and the way that it cameabout was probably about 10
years ago.
I was facilitating at a bigfestival and they asked me to
sum up what I did in three words, and I'm like whoa, because I
never know what to say whenpeople ask me.
I'm like, oh, you know, know,I'm always at a loss, and so it
(48:59):
was like anchoring the light.
So what does that mean?
It's really, as I've put thereon my website, to to remember
the truth of who we really are,that we are seeds of love that
have come here to be conduitsfor the earth.
So in that same, you know, inthat remembering of who we are,
(49:23):
then we are able to alchemizeand transform whatever is
happening around us, and this iswhat the earth needs, this is
what humanity needs.
And the more anchored we can bein our light, the more
resilient we are, the more webecome the lighthouse for others
, not by doing anything, butsimply by being.
We can help to, not by forcingand saying, hey, you come over
(49:46):
here, but just by being anchoredin your light you naturally
switch on.
Ah, you know, people can feelthat frequency, they can feel
that energy, and so it's reallyour, our service to Pachamama is
to anchor the light, to anchorour light, to remember the truth
of who we really are.
I always say that Pachamamadoesn't need saving.
(50:08):
That's something that us, inour arrogance, have decided that
she needs.
What she needs is for us towake up and remember the truth
of who we really are.
Once we do that, once werealize that we are the highest
frequencies of light, we are thehighest frequencies of love.
That's not loving lightingthings, I'm not saying it from a
woo-woo perspective of, justyou know, bypass the shadow.
(50:30):
We go into the shadow, likeLuke Skywalker with his
lightsaber, like you know,knowing that we've got the
source at our back.
We are the light and we can gointo those processes and those
heavier frequencies as light.
We don't have to bypass it, wealchemize.
So anchoring the light is aprocess of, yeah, remembering
(50:54):
who we really are, as divinealchemists, as crystals that can
transform any energy into thehighest frequencies of light and
anchor it into the earth andour service.
Speaker 1 (51:04):
Beautiful.
I love that.
Number three you offer avariety of resources on your
website.
Out of all the services,trainings, modalities that you
offer, what is the one tool thatyou practice consistently or
modality in your own personallife or practice?
Speaker 2 (51:23):
All of them.
I don't teach anything that Idon't do myself.
And this is one of the reasonsthat I I laugh about this I have
recorded content on, especiallyon, my Wilkasuyu training.
And the reason that I haverecorded content?
Because if I didn't, then youwould not understand what I was
(51:47):
talking about, because I'malways I'm sure you're like this
too, tracy I'm always up,leveling and moving and there's
new things and there's newinformation coming and you can
forget that you've got therebecause you've been doing this
for years and you've done thework and and it's you know.
But if you try and share thatwith people that are just
starting, they're like what?
(52:07):
So having everything that I'msharing is stuff I've embodied.
Once I've embodied it, you know, then I share it and I and if I
haven embodied it yet, then Ipractice more and I practice
more until I'm like oh yeah,this is how it goes.
So with the Wilkasuyu training,for example, that's not
(52:27):
something I was taught, that wassomething that I've embodied
through my years of work as aceremonialist, and now I am
sharing it with people in a waythat, in as 3D way as I can,
gives you a template that kindof makes sense that you can then
put it into practice, buteverything that I share is what
(52:49):
I do.
Speaker 1 (52:50):
Beautiful.
I love it.
I love it.
So that was our last questionand, as we've been talking, is
there something that you mayhave forgotten or something
you'd like to share?
Speaker 2 (53:00):
the floor is yours oh , thank you so much.
No, I I feel complete.
I feel like we've covered a lot.
There's always more, you know,that's the thing.
There is always more and, uh,I'm just very, very grateful to
be, to have the opportunity tobe here.
I actually there is one littlething, because before we got on
the call today, we had sometrickster energies at play.
(53:23):
That were really trying theirdarndest for this conversation
not to happen, and you and Iwere both on our other sides of
the world, having not met eachother yet, and we're both tuning
in Because there's adiscernment isn't there.
It's like there's a push thatcomes from the the ego of this
(53:44):
has to happen, and then there'sa like hang on a second is this,
is this some?
You know, this obstacle issomething that is there, that we
need to move through right yes,yes so I was sharing with Tracy
that, um, you know we're doingall the logistical things.
And then I was like I heard mymountains come in and say, hey,
(54:05):
remember us, oh my god, and Iput everything down, I get my
mess up and I'm like, okay,whatever this interference is, I
need you to go in, I need youto clear it, I need you to talk
to the mountains that are inTracy's area.
Fix this technological issue.
I even had we even have stonesin our messer for technology,
yes, and so as soon as Iremembered to work on the level
(54:25):
of energy, we got online.
Yes so remember that even if youcan't see it, it doesn't mean
it's not happening.
Sure, you connect your phone toyour Bluetooth speaker and the
sound comes out, right happening.
You connect your phone to yourBluetooth speaker and the sound
comes out, and I think, for ourhealing to be effective and
(54:45):
sorry, I just have to say thisbecause I think it's really
important.
As a healer, all you can everdo is offer your best with all
your heart, in your integrityand your impeccability.
But it is not up to you whetherthe person receives that
healing or not.
That is entirely free will andthat is up to them.
So we can't be attached to whenwe've, you know, given and you
(55:08):
know, bless someone with ourhealing and if it doesn't work,
then that's not up to you tomake it work.
That's for the person to receiveit.
We can only ever offer it.
So I think that's a reallyimportant one to know.
But to remember that for ourhealing to be effective whether
(55:29):
the person realizes it or not,because yes or yes, they're
receiving it You've got to gobeyond trusting it.
Speaker 1 (55:35):
You got to know that it's happening without any doubt
, right right, right, and whathappened to us just before this
was really skill and action,because you had no idea what the
landscape here I'm in El Paso,texas, which has the mountains,
right, and there's oneparticular mountain that has a
star on it.
So if you Google El Paso,you'll see that.
(55:57):
And I had a student who now hasbecome a really good friend and
she's from Germany and she saidshe would just drive and she'd
see the mountains here and she'dask every day, what story do
you want to tell me?
What's the story?
And as you were talking and youhad said I went to the
mountains, right, I would thinkof that story.
(56:18):
What's the story you want totell me today?
So that's just showing you howconnected we were in that moment
of trying to get past whateverthat was that was preventing us
from connecting today.
I mean, we had to redo thingsand reset things, but it was a
reset right, starting over, sothat we could connect.
Speaker 2 (56:38):
Yes, I've got the truth bumps.
I love it.
Speaker 1 (56:41):
How cute truth bumps.
Well, thank you, gemma, forjoining me on this journey.
I really appreciated takingtime out of your really busy
schedule.
I know you have a lot going on.
You have your bigapprenticeship coming up and
looking at your calendar online.
You have an amazing websitewith so much resource.
So thank you for putting allthat together and being a source
(57:04):
of support and encouragementand loving light to the world.
So thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (57:10):
Thank you so much for having me, Tracy Wonderful.
Speaker 1 (57:14):
You too Well.
Thank you, my wonderfullisteners.
If you'd like your questionfeatured on Ready Set Reiki,
reach out wwwreadysetreikicom.
I'm Tracy C Wright and this hasbeen Ready Set Reiki.
Thank you.
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