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Speaker 2 (00:31):
This is Ready Set
Reiki, a podcast about Reiki,
the universal energy life force,From the curious beginner to
the seasoned master teacher,welcoming all systems, all
lineages and all levels.
Reiki is a journey and not adestination, and on this Ready
Set Reiki journey, we refer toourselves as guides, as we too
are traveling, learning fromeach other and supporting each
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other as well.
And with that said, I am yourguide, tracy C Wright, and
joining me on this journey todayis Ronald B Waman.
Now, ronald has devoted thethree past decades to
passionately coachingindividuals to empower their
inner storyline to become theirbest selves.
As an empowered life brainintegration specialist, a
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licensed massage therapist, anempowered life kinesiologist and
emotional coach, neuroenergetic kinesiologist and food
enzyme consultant, ronunderscores the significance of
empowerment and congruencywithin the heart, mind, body and
soul.
He wrote a brain integrationand mindfulness self-help book
called Life Centering.
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He enjoys teaching lifecentering techniques to family,
friends and clients.
He is the founder of theSensory Dynamic Center and
co-founder of Empowered LifeKinesiology, a body and mind
energy school.
He helped create a spice blend,herbal blends and essential oil
blends for health and brainbody integration.
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Ronald Wyman and Denise Wymanschools are co-founders of Mind
Body Dictionary, which helpsbridge the gap of understanding
and powerful connection betweenthe mind and the body.
Ron's extensive work integratesimplying breakthroughs in the
body energy systems, integratedbody movements, brain
neuroscience, nutrition, sensoryintegration, focused emotional
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processing and motivationalheart-mind empowerment.
Constantly exploring newtechniques rooted in traditional
Eastern healing methodologies,he empowers practitioners to
experience and facilitateremarkable physical, emotional
and energetic alchemy.
He wants people to find thetruth within their body, heart
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and mind, which brings one backto their authentic soul.
Ron and his wife, jeanette, areproud parents of six children
and grandparents of 18.
Welcome, ron, to Ready SetReiki.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Well, thank you, it's
good to be here.
Yeah, with all that, I don'tknow what else I can say.
That's quite a mouthful.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
That was quite a
mouthful right.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Very great, Thanks
Well with, with.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
That said, tell me
about yourself okay, I'll do
that.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Actually, when you
read that I was listening.
Did you add in the mind bodydictionary in one of the books
that you mentioned?
you said life's?
You probably did.
I was hearing so much and and.
So because that's how we gotonto the show, because we just
released MindBody Dictionary andI'm very proud of my niece,
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denise Wayman-Skolls, who helpedme work through it and get it
done, and I'm really excited.
So a little bit about myself.
I've been in this work overthree decades and having lots of
fun and, of course, lots oflearning, and my parents were
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already into health and theyhave uncles that were
chiropractors.
My father started on that pathand went another one, but I took
another path for a while and Iended up becoming an energy
kinesiologist and because Iwanted to go down a little
different path with emotions andmeridians and energy work, and
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I went and did my work withreiki for a short time and and
then with other techniques I'veI don't know how many classes I
used to take and books I've readI was counting up all the books
that I've read over the yearsand I kept finding more books
and more books and more books.
So but I I found that I startedthis work partially because of
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what happened to myself and mywife Several years ago.
She had issues with a pregnancythat caused skin rashes that
they couldn't resolve, and ittook us several doctors to
figure out, and they eventuallygave her prednisone while she
was pregnant, and then, later,when I did this work, I started
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to figure out actually whathappened, putting two and two
together in my research, becausethree of the pregnancies she
had a very severe boils it wasboils on her body and also I had
health problems throughout mylife, injuries and other issues
that caused a lot of pain.
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So I had quite a bit of pain,and so this work came about in
my seeking, partially because ofthat, due to pain and health
reasons and ultimately, though,a man walked into my life in a
business I had several years ago.
Man walked into my life in abusiness I had several years ago
, and he started to talk in waysthat very much interested me
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about the mind, aboutspirituality, and I started to
take interest in what he had tosay and I started to think
differently, and, and so most ofmy work is centered around
helping people transform theirthinking and their sensing and
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feeling into a unified form inthe body.
So, whether I'm working onmeridians, or whether I'm doing
chakras, or whether I'm helpingthem with their nutrition
because I've studied nutritionextensively too, helping them
with their nutrition becauseI've studied nutrition
extensively too.
It all comes back to a onenessof the mind, the heart and the
body, and so when I'm doingclasses or seeing people
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privately, they really want toget it.
They really want to understandwhy they're stuck, because, no
matter what, you could have themost perfect product for them or
the perfect energy for them,but if they're still stuck in
their belief system and theycan't really get it, or they're
stuck in their grief, in theirheart, or their body has
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memories in their cells that arestuck, it's going to really
take them a long time.
So I spend a lot of timemassaging it energetically and
mentally and emotionally.
So, anyway, there you go.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
So would you say that
this work found you or you
found this work?
Speaker 3 (07:16):
I think it's more.
It found me in some waysbecause I mean, obviously,
obviously I started to seekanswers when we had our health
problems and and and we did goto the standard places medically
and alternative.
But you know, when peoplestarted walking into my life and
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I remember this onecodependency book that came out
and I started reading it, that'swhen codependency was new I
mean, this is back in 1980s andand it was just like what.
And this guy walked into mylife.
And then this other man that Imentioned, max, he, he was just
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there and all of a sudden I wentwhoa.
And so I think I think, in someways, when it, when it came, it
came.
And then I remember the firstclass I took on emotional
processing and I went wait, Iheard it's like I already knew
how to do the whole procedure,it's like it was a knowing and I
was coming home, basicallywonderful, wonderful, so you
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would say, that led you to makethese connections.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
you know, integrating
body movements, the brain,
neuroscience, nutrition, sensoryintegration, focused emotional
processing, this motivationalheart, mind empowerment, all
that you've learned on thisjourney, from all these
synchronicities, it's justamazing.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I mean, you brought
up movements again and thank you
because I have a whole workshopbased on that, because that's a
part of it, and the sensory isa part of it and the mind is a
part of it.
So actually I don't think weever need to stop learning.
I mean, why stop?
Why not keep expanding andgrowing ourselves?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Sure, sure, and it
wasn't mentioned in your intro,
but we chatted a little bitbefore and you said that you did
have a little bit of experiencein your journey with Reiki,
even though you may not be usingit to the fullest extent now,
but it was a part of yourjourney, correct?
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Um, I, I remember, uh
, one of my clients said that it
was appropriate for me to atleast have level one.
So I went through level oneafter I had started the work and
then I went to retreat andsomeone else said to me uh, you
need to do level two and threebecause of the type of work
you're doing.
I said, okay, like you said, itkind of shows up, and but every
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day that I work with people, Imean it is similar to the Reiki
field.
The way I experience Reiki isyou're connecting to dimensions
of people's fields andunderstandings and sometimes I
get visual, sometimes I havebody sensations, sometimes I
have understandings of the mindthat Reiki practitioners do.
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They go in, they go into arealm.
I do craniosacral I didn'tmention that and that's a
similar field to Reiki, butdifferent, I mean, obviously,
but you're getting a vibrationof resonance, looking at the
dissonance and bringing themback home.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
So you know, Right,
it's all energy work right.
It gets that heart, mind, thebody, the soul.
It helps with imbalances rightIn the body.
That's all all energy workRight.
It gets that heart, mind, thebody, the soul.
It helps with imbalances Rightand the body.
That's our goal Getting thingsin balance.
So we're getting kind of, yeah,the same end goal here.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Yeah, we are.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Wonderful, wonderful.
So in your work, you knowyou've been doing this now.
For what?
Three decades?
What is a common misperceptionabout your work?
Speaker 3 (10:45):
what?
Three decades?
What is a common misperceptionabout your work?
Well, obviously the most commonmisperception is people can't
believe that you can touch thebody or, you know, be near the
body.
I know a lot of Reiki don'ttouch.
So I do both.
I do acupuncture meridians andthen I do chakras and off-body.
I do both.
A lot of people can't believe it.
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So I always do a little demo onnew individuals that show the
possibility of having anelectrical energy pass through
people okay, and help themunderstand that it exists.
So I help take away that visualpart of our brain that likes to
doubt.
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You know, if they can't see it,they don't believe it.
So that's one thing thathappens.
They have to see it to believeit for some people, and the
irony of this is sometimes if wedon't have enough belief, we
won't see it.
The other one that the blockageswould be misconceptions is that
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our mind is so powerful and,even more important than our
body is, has so much memory thatcan negate all the work someone
does in cognitive therapy.
I have many therapists, socialworkers, psychologists and
others that I've known over theyears.
Some are still clients and theycome to me because they want to
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blend the body and and and themind.
So a lot of people say, well,yeah, the mind can do it and
they forget about the body.
And some people say the bodycan do it, forget about the mind
.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
It's actually all of
them yeah, it's getting that
biofeedback in the body.
I love it correct so what issomething you wish your younger
self knew about your currentprofession?
Speaker 3 (12:31):
I think when I was
going through some of the
experiences I had because of Ihad some trauma that I didn't
mention and a lot of people gointo this kind of work because
of trauma and that there's hope,work because of trauma.
And that there's hope Because Ifor a while there I went into a
hopeless and then I went into adenial and I pretended that all
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of that didn't exist.
So I think a hope, you know,way, way back when Also, maybe
just a little awareness, butmaybe just a little awareness.
But when I say that, though insome ways I'm glad I didn't have
as much information then as Ido now, because that shaped me,
that molded me, that obstaclethat times a thousand was really
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important for my resiliency, mydetermination, my courage, my
depth of desire.
What happened to my experiencemay not have happened the same
if I had all the answers right,so in some ways it's best that I
didn't know that much.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Right, right, you
know, if you think about it, if
someone handed you a preview ofthe chapter of your life and as
you're reading it, would youfeel at that moment you had the
courage to answer that callRight.
So, maybe kind of blindlywalking through it, they're like
oh, here I am, instead ofknowing beforehand.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Well, the ahas are so
valuable.
You know, working with peopleand having them crystallize from
within themselves and havingthat haha is worth more than
okay.
This is exactly what it'll be.
And if we go too much in theexactness, we go too much from
the left brain and we don'tallow that right brain emotional
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experience to happen and theydon't value it as much.
So, um, and, by the way, whendenise and I worked on the mind
body dictionary, if she wouldhave told me that it's going to
be 733 pages, I probably wouldhave went.
I don't know, I don't know if Ican, I don't know if I can make
a book 733 pages, but it just,it was just organic and I just
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kept adding and, kept adding andand like oh, wow, okay, so it's
so valuable to just experimentactually with life, right?
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Right, right, cause
you probably never would have
thought three decades ago youwould be doing this today, right
?
No no, no.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
No, talking to a
great person like Tracy.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Thank you, you're not
so bad yourself, all right.
Our next question is what hasworking as an emotional coach
for three decades to supportindividuals to power their inner
storyline teach you?
What did it teach you?
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Well, actually it's
taught me a lot, because that's
that's when, uh, I do mywritings.
It's actually the people thatteach me.
So my understandings of onehelp me on the next person, and
so they are my teachers andactually everyone's my teachers
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mantra I I started to do beforethis work because when I was
really into it doing mastermindwork and really kind of just not
kind of I was way into it Iunderstood that, wow, I can
learn from every part of my life.
Learn from every part of mylife.
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So that's one of the thingsthat taught me that storylines
are a way of having a perceptionthat has a unique view that
really can teach each of ussomething new.
And so when someone has anenemy, let's say they may not
call them an enemy, but they getall upset.
That other person is a teacher.
They can teach you so much.
Rather than be in complaint orwhining about it, you can
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actually embrace that moment andsay, well, what is valuable
here?
Why, what's happening in thismoment with that other person?
That's challenging me.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
That's interesting
that you said that there was a
season, a season in my lifewhere someone was really
challenging me and it wassomeone that I had to have
frequent communications with,and every time that person would
call I just frustration, justreally things that I kind of
didn't like coming out of myself, and I actually began to change
.
I changed my phone, thatperson's name to teacher, so
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that way, when I saw that thisis what was teaching me, you
know what I don't want to reactto right, how I don't want to
behave, some of the way thisperson talked and treated others
was an example, a teachingmoment for me as a human being,
and I had that for several years.
When the phone would ring up,there's my teacher.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
And that's a great
attitude of gratitude that is so
amazing Good.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Yeah, this person
again very much a thorn in my
side, but someone I really hadto be involved with.
So that's how I, that's how Iframed it, I reframed it.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
I, that's how I
framed it.
I reframed it so and awesome.
And so the next thing that isis a little deeper concept and
that is, let's say, someone isafraid of something, or, or
let's easier is depression.
So let's say, someone'sdepressed, always hopeless, just
poor me, and and they're in avictim state.
And they don't mean to, theydon't want to be, but it's just
where their body took them.
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Now, in research they found ifthey put electrode in the brain
and they go a certain directionwith electricity and a stimulus,
they can actually create adepressive state.
Or if they go another direction, they can create a hyper giddy
state.
So I know that those people arejust stuck in that frequency.
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So then I, then I look at theirbelief system and I say that so
what they've taught me is howdoes that belief system and
their state correspond, and whatare they running from?
So I look, and what are theyrunning from?
So I look at what they'rerunning from, and oftentimes
depression is running from angeror running from, of course,
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anxiety, and so you can actuallyjust be able to.
They teach you actually rightthere.
Say what are you afraid of,what are you running from, or
what belief structure is makingyou want to hold on to
depression?
What is so precious to you thatyou need that state?
I'm using that as an examplebecause it could be anything
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actually.
So I mean, we could go on allnight about different conditions
and things like that and whatthey've taught us.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Well, the next
question is whether it's for
your own personal growth orreferring your clients.
What qualities do you look forin an energy worker or in
traditional Eastern healingmethodologies?
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Well, I know this may
sound odd, but the first thing
is the leader of whatever thattradition's doing.
If the leader is proclaimingthat you don't need anything
else but this, I shy away fromthat because actually,
acupuncture is valid,chiropractic is valid, nutrition
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is important, different typesof energy work is valid, and so
I look at that if there's toomuch ego.
The next thing I look for isnot only integrity of the
individual who is adding it upor the individual who's teaching
it, but the integrity of whatis being taught.
Is it supporting people?
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Is it building them people?
Is it building them or is ittrying to keep them stuck?
And you know slaves are victimto, you know what is happening
in their life.
Are we supporting theindividual?
Is the condition, is themethodology supporting their
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whole body and mind and heart?
Now, some don't, they justsupport the mind, but within
that, are they supporting theindividual to be empowered?
So, you know, balance,congruency, things like that.
And yeah, and I, you know,looked at Ayurvedic play with
that, of course, the chakrasystems and acupuncture
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meridians and et cetera, and asa system those things hold up
very well.
So Right.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Right, so you are
teacher, you are founder, you
are author.
So what advice would you givesomeone who is just entering
this profession?
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Experiment with not
only different methodologies for
yourself, but experiment,allowing yourself to try
different methodologies, andthen bring what resonates to
yourself home, practice onyourself.
Those who think, oh, I'm doingpretty good, I don't need this,
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but everybody else does, uh,that's, that's dark, in my
opinion.
Eventually, um and um, yeah, Ihad.
I had a professional come inone time.
He says what do you do?
I don't understand.
He was, he was next door in anoffice and I just said, um, well
, I do energy work, emotionalwork, mental, on and on, and on
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and on.
And he says that doesn't makeany sense to me.
I said, well, that's fine, I'vegot a little time, just come up
, get on the table, I'll do mystuff.
And so it came up.
We were doing a little emotionalwork, so there were some points
I was pushing and touching.
I mean not pushing, touchingand it was about his mom, and so
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I just went on.
He says my mom, I have noissues with my mother ever.
And I said, okay, that's fine.
He said you cleared it up.
Oh, yeah, in college I did thatlong time ago.
I have no problem with her, no,I just.
We got to stop right now, whichI knew right.
Then he did still have issueswith his mom and but I didn't
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say that to him.
I says well, let's pretend,let's just pretend you have
issues with your mom and go backin time because you wanted to
know what I do.
So I know that was a little slyon my part, but he pretended
and all of a sudden he startedgetting upset and then he cried
and he talked all about it.
He did the whole process and wedid the energy work and brought
him back home, worked with hisbeliefs and he went wow, that
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was amazing.
Well, and I said that wasreally amazing because you were
just pretending yeah, that was,this is awesome.
So.
So when you start out, you knowyou'll get people like that.
That'll doubt they'll.
They'll say, oh, you can't dothat or you shouldn't do this.
As long as you keep the peoplesafe, you keep yourself balanced
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, you be balanced, they shouldbe balanced Both.
Then just just play with it.
Come to understand.
The doubts are because peopleare afraid.
The doubts are because peopleare not ready to take the next
step in their life.
They're scared.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
So just just keep
things in balance and take
things a step at a time that'sgreat advice and to be playful
with it, because you never knowwhat resistance you're going to
get.
But you put it in a really niceway with that.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Yeah, it's fun.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Our next question is
what books do you recommend, and
that can mean your books aswell.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Well, thank you, and
so I thought about this question
.
I listened to some of yourpodcasts and actually actually
you're very considerate and agreat host and so it was fun to
listen to them.
So I'm going to talk a littlebit about my books in just a
second.
But, you know, I thought about,oh, you know, all these books
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there's just it goes on and onand on, and a lot of your
listeners will have read severalof them.
It goes on and on and on, and alot of your listeners will have
read several of them.
But one popped out that I'vebeen enjoying and I'm actually
going through it a third time,and it's a book called and there
Was Light, by Jacques RousseauLucerne.
Okay, now, it's about a storywith a Frenchman that lost his
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eyesight at age seven.
He lived in World War IItimeframe and he became part of
the French resistance and thenthey used his ability with
intuition to help find andfilter out anybody who was
dangerous to be a part of theirresistance.
And he did it as an olderteenager, so he was very young
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when he became a part of theresistance, and they used him
because he had such greatintuition he could smell the
darkness in people.
He could sense it.
He said he got so good at hisintuition and so aware he pitied
those who are not blind.
He said I can see, I can feelthings that people have no idea.
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It's a great book on intuitionand it's hidden.
I didn't even know it would bethat good on intuition, but it's
one of the best books onintuitions I've ever read.
And so uh with for Reikipractitioners, I think it's a
great book personally.
Um, and you know there's otherother books and I I could go on
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and on about that, but that's areal good one.
And there'll be, like now, theother ones.
You already talked about acouple of them, and so the mind
body dictionary is just come out, and so a lot of people have
read similar books like feelingsburied, lied, never die, louise
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Hayes books they're allfabulous.
This one's a little differentand that we provide a healing
mindset, a troubled mindset,because it starts with the
troubled and then it goes to thehealing.
Then we provide affirmationsand then supporting foods,
because I'm really into gettingthe whole thing together and
each condition that we have wehave over 250, I've lost count
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now and provide severalstatements that allow the person
to really understand, ratherthan single words, their
statements, so that it helpsbridge the left and the right
brain, because I do a lot ofbrain integration and that's so
important.
So by by having statements itbridges the two much easier.
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By having statements it bridgesthe two much easier.
And then they take the healingmindset and they can actually
start working on ways to achievethat healing of arthritis or
diabetes or blood pressure orfear, it doesn't really matter.
And then those supporting foodsare really nice and of course,
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the affirmations.
And so it's not just a book,though.
We have it as an app so peoplecan download it from their app
store or play store.
It's also an ebook, and so somepeople do all three.
And I have to joke, after itcame out I didn't realize how
much some people used it, but Ihad a lady that told me after I
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talked to her.
She said oh, I got to tell yousomething.
I've got rid of most of myother books.
By my bedside and by my bed onmy nightstand All I have is the
Bible and your book.
I said, ok, I appreciate that,but I, you know she was just
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saying to me she used it all thetime.
She wanted to look stuff up.
She wanted to connect and itwas.
It's a lot of fun.
And the other book, lifeCentering, is more about.
It starts about meditation inregards to your brain, so it
talks a lot about the left brainand right brain.
With meditation it's moresimple than some of those
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complicated brain books andthose books are fabulous.
There are several books outthere.
This one I want to crystallizeit, bring it to language that
people can use, and so I really,I really like it because it
helps the beginner use somethingof value.
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So if you have clients thatdon't quite understand the left
and right brain stuff how tobring in meditation, how to
bring in the emotional workbecause it has emotional
processing in it then this is agreat book to have them start.
And of course, the MindBodyDictionary for Reiki
practitioners is fabulousbecause you can just look it up,
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you can scan, say oh, that'sone for them, and then they can
just use that affirmation.
So, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Beautiful.
Thank you for sharing that.
I love that right next to thebible.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
What a compliment
well, not everybody said that,
but it was fun well, it justtook one person.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
That's all you need
right?
Speaker 3 (29:54):
yeah, yeah, well you
know, um, well, you know.
Well, you know these things isas, the more you become
intuitive because anybody whogets into this work becomes more
intuitive they become moreconnected and you get a knowing
when you work with people.
So that book is a knowing book,it's it.
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That's what I wanted to comeacross Like when they they read
about a condition, the persongoes, oh, how did they know me.
When they read about acondition, the person goes, oh,
how did they know me.
So my nieces, my niece andnephew's children, they're
teenagers and they first timethey picked it up and they
looked at their conditions, theylooked around the room.
I wasn't there, but they lookedaround, said is Ron there?
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Is Ronald there, you know?
And because I wanted them tohave that feeling when this book
came out, so, and that's what apractitioner wants, they want
to be in their field so much aReiki practitioner, of course
and have that knowing, come andhelp the person really rise and
transform through theircondition.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Right, so Love it,
love it.
So I mentioned in the beginningsome of your other modalities,
so remind us again what are yourother modalities that you offer
, and do you offer classes,trainings, online in person?
Speaker 3 (31:14):
It would be a
beginning book, just to gather
information, to understand it.
After that, then in our collegewe have Empower Life
Kinesiology.
That's part of Empower Lifetrainings, and Empower Life
Kinesiology is one that takesthe meridian system and finds a
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way to get answers to whateverthe condition is that a person
has.
It could be emotional, mental,physical, it doesn't really
matter.
And so we use motor or, excuseme, muscle response testing, of
course, but it's done in a waywhere it's stress test rather
than a yes, no, so we can do itintuitively.
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So a lot of times I have aknowing where to go, and then we
start out with understandingenergy.
Then we go to somatic work andthen we blend in the mind with
it and then we go back intoemotions.
So I teach a whole section onemotional work.
I teach a whole section onsomatic work, and so do my
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co-workers.
Tammy and Debbie have workedreally hard.
They have a lot of courses thatare really helpful in doing
that.
And then, after we get throughthat, then we go into advanced
work.
So you can do work abouthormone problems.
You can find out energy work onexactly acupuncture points for
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your hormones, yourneurotransmitters cells in each
of your organs, each of yourmuscles, and then we go into
classes about movements so I cantake this movement with another
movement, put them together anddo brain integration.
Put them together and do brainintegration.
And if someone does thosemovements every day, they can
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help their ADD, adhd, help theirblood sugar.
It is remarkable how movementscan also change everything.
So I know I keep talking aboutall these different things going
on because they're all going on.
They're just it's amazing whatis out there.
So, anyway, so I I've tried tobring it concise.
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Hopefully that wasn't too muchfor the, for the show it's not.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
We have many
different listeners, you know,
from massage therapist to yogis.
So yeah, and reiki masters,yeahiki masters.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Yeah, love it, yeah.
And so, for example, we have amedical massage therapist here
that I work with extensively onsome clients.
He loves the movement and thereflex work.
And then I have other peoplethat don't want to touch the
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body and they just want to doemotional work, and so then they
do that work.
And other people that just wantto deal with the mind is so
yeah, it's, it's inviting toanyone, and so in the college
they're welcome to do that.
And you know, if, if people aresaying way, whoa, that's too
much, then they could justcontact mind body dictionary on
the website and just say, hey,I'm interested in extra little
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courses at that level which areprofound, and yet they're not
having to learn anything aboutacupuncture, meridians or
anything like that.
So you know, it depends uponwhere people are coming from.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
You take them where
they are.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Whatever?
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Right, perfect.
So where can we find you?
How can we get in touch withyou?
Speaker 3 (34:47):
So two different ways
.
I mentioned it just brieflyjust now, of course,
mindbodydictionarycom and do thecontact us, and then you can
ask questions there and Denisefills those.
And I mean, if you areinterested in that, that'd be
great.
But you can even go there forthe Empower Life Kinesiology.
(35:08):
Also.
The other way, if you want tolook up Empower Life Kinesiology
or Empower Life Trainingsbecause it's forwarded Now, um,
I mean, if you really want tofind me, uh, I I'm in West
Jordan, utah, um, and you canlook up my name and find me that
(35:29):
way too, and that's fine.
But that's how I I prefer isgoing through the websites.
That way they can take care ofyour needs, um, and, and you
know, if you need a practitioneror you need extra special care,
then they can do that for you,okay perfect.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Well, thank you, ron.
This ends our little journeytogether here with the questions
, and I'm going to lead you asour journey continues into the
questions from social media.
So we have listeners thatsubmit questions and I narrow it
down to three.
So I have three questions justfor you.
So here we go.
The first question is what hasbeen some of the biggest
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challenges you have faced inintegrating spiritually with
your entrepreneurship?
Speaker 3 (36:16):
I think in the very
beginning I'm thinking about 35
years ago, when I was playingwith the idea of actually doing
this part-time, full-time kindof an idea was the question that
and the doubt people had howcan you charge for something
that's spiritual?
I think I mean that just cameto me as you asked that question
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.
I haven't thought of that forgosh years now and and I played
with that quite a bit becauseyou know a lot of people locally
here Well, you know youshouldn't be paid for anything
spiritual, and so what I came tounderstand one is that I should
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always find a way toperiodically give my services to
someone who is poor or verydisadvantaged and just offer it
and not do all of it that way.
Because one of the things Ifound well, how could I have an
office, how can I have a center,if I just did it without any
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pay at all?
I mean, I could live on thestreet and beg for food and then
work on people.
I could do it that way, butthen I wouldn't be able to serve
most of the public that thebest way to serve the public was
to have a way to have incomeand then offer services to
someone that was disadvantagedperiodically not all the time,
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but just some of the time andit's kind of like a tide.
You're giving back because Idon't believe anything.
We have any gift, we haveknowledge, our ability is
without a gift from the divine?
I think everything we think,feel sense is always from the
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divine.
We are so blessed, and so whyshould I be greedy by saying,
well, all right, it's all mine,I, you should pay for it.
No, no, no, no.
The the payment isn't about, um,what it is out there in the
work market.
I'm, this is not a job, this isservice to me and I'm giving to
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the client.
They will pay for some of thoseservices, right, and they will
give money for this, but themoney is a sharing For the
amount of energy that I put intomy work and teaching.
It does not equate to thedollar amount I'm receiving, not
even close.
It's worth far more than whatI'm receiving if it's monetary
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point of view, but from thedivine view, they're giving me
so much of their soul that it'sworth just being with them.
And then the dollar stuff helpsme have lights, helps me have a
building, helps me buy newtrainings, helps me actually
provide more opportunities formore people.
That's how I take it.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Right, right.
Well, thank you for addressingthat, because many, especially
the newer practitioners, havethat difficulty because they
want to be of service, but theyalso know it's an exchange of
energy and putting that out.
So where do they pricethemselves, how do they value
themselves?
And then you always have thatclient that may kind of well,
(39:34):
why does it have to be this way?
And then there's no consistencyalso in these fields where the
prices are so radicallydifferent.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
Oh yeah, all over the
place, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Right, and even in
the same city you can have maybe
$100, $200 difference.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
And sometimes it's
the capacity of the individual,
maybe their technique capacity,but also their confidence
capacity.
And so an individual who isafraid to charge more than a
very small amount, then work onbuilding confidence in your own
ability to feel worthy, goodenough, lovable, capable,
courageous, trusting all thepositive values, build capacity,
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and then it'll be easy to buildupon that and add more charge
to it.
And you know, every once in awhile I not only give a free
session but discount itsometimes for those who are, you
know, not able.
That's fine, there's nothingwrong with the discount.
I don't believe it's.
It's.
Am I discounting myself is theproblem?
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So when I work on someone who,let's say, is half price, I
don't have a lot like that, butif they are, I don't give them a
half price deal on my work.
They may pay less, but I givethem the same, and then I get
even more greater understandingand I don't feel taken advantage
of.
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I give them the same.
I don't.
I don't discount what I do.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Right.
I often especially like withtrainings.
I'll spin it as here's ascholarship that you can apply
for and tell me why you know youwould like to do this training
and they write, they tell metheir story and then I'll work
that into a scholarship for them, taking a certain percentage
off the training.
(41:26):
So that seems to make it alittle easier for them that, oh,
I want a scholarship or Iearned the scholarship, that's
great.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
That's good, I like
that.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
So our second
question is can you tell me
about your Empower Life Kynology, Body and Mind Energy School?
I know you touched on that alittle bit in our last section
of questions, but tell us all.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
So it's Empower Life
Kinesiology, that's how you
pronounce it.
So it is energy kinesiology.
In the United States and Canada, kinesiology at the university
is the study of muscles.
Okay, so energy kinesiology isusing energy and muscles
combined, and so empower life isis the name I apply to it
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because I want people to beempowered.
So people learn about muscles,they learn about organs, they
learn about body systems, theylearn about how things work
together.
Then in, and then we add tothat, of course, the mind, the
belief systems and the emotions.
Now another part of the collegeis I'm licensed in the United
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States to teach and distributetrainings from Australia, from
NK, that is, neuralEnergeticiology, from a
individual, hugo tobar, who hasspent uh decades developing his
work, and so we uh have joinedit together here in the us with
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our work, and so people can havea very advanced energy um work.
From a scientific point of viewit's very science-based.
So it's genetics and hormonesand neurotransmitters.
It goes into the brain in verydetail, all the parts of the
brain.
You can get detailed points toknow where and what to do.
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So it's quite remarkable work.
And then in the school we dobrain integration to hold it all
together.
So it's actually a completework, going all the way from the
very simple to a very complex.
So I deal with very complexindividuals and I'm prompted
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internally to just not mentionall of the major conditions that
we deal with.
But yeah, there's several ofthem, so it is a regular school.
They can do an independentstudy, or they can say oh, I
want to do it with a group wherethere's a labs that we do
videos, so it's easy for them todo it, and then the labs are
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online so they can haveone-on-one with a teacher.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
Okay, beautiful
online so they can have
one-on-one with a teacherBeautiful.
And our third question how doyou think spirituality can play
a role in the broader businessworld?
Speaker 3 (44:17):
I think that all
things are spirituality.
I feel all things arespirituality and I sense all
things are spiritual.
So if spirituality isn't in thebusiness world, eventually it
actually collapses upon itself.
Now, on a basic level, thatmeans values.
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That means people have ethicsand they're true to their core
values, ethics and principles.
To me that's part ofspirituality.
That is really basic to it.
In entrepreneurship, in thebusiness world, if you don't
know what your principles are,write them down immediately,
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find out what they are and startbeing true to them, and then
you will be successful.
If you're not successful inyour world and what you're doing
, if you're not successful inyour world and what you're doing
, it's because you're not beingtrue to your truth, and so being
true to your truth will enableyou to actually be more
successful.
Then, on a higher level, thenspirituality is acknowledging
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God's hands, the universe's hand, in everything and really
applying gratitude foreverything.
How it's a great honor to servethe public, because it is a
great honor.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
Wonderful, wonderful.
Well, we have finished ourquestions, but is there anything
else that you would like to add?
I know you created a spiceblend, herbal blend, oh, yeah, I
forgot.
Speaker 3 (45:45):
Yeah, I guess you
know I, I don't know it's, it's
just on the weekends.
You got to do something extra,you know?
Um, yes, uh, there's an herbalblend I that I worked on with
jan uh and uh she she has alsocontributed and and that blend
(46:05):
was to help people with diabetesand cravings and actually has
been helpful in a lot of otherthings.
So it was developed forspecific people and so people
have been able to use it fortheir health and I just use it
now.
On cooking, I went to ricepotatoes is very savory.
It's only missing for anItalian blend, oregano, and some
(46:29):
people add it in, but we don'tbecause it's just whole in
itself.
It's made to be holistic.
So, yeah, we did do that.
My main thing is not thatculinary arts, because I wanted
to support clients, so I justdecided let's do it.
So we did it.
The other is essential oils.
Now, I love essential oils.
(46:51):
All these companies arefabulous.
There's many companies outthere.
I don't like having anycontention between companies.
That's silly.
What I want to honor wherepeople are coming from.
These oils are not to be incompetition with that.
But I needed two blends Icouldn't find and that is to
deal with the sympatheticnervous system and the
parasympathetic nervous system,to deal with the atlas and axis.
(47:14):
To deal with how, how to?
You know the, the, the calm andrestore part of the body.
And you know the, theaggression.
Let's get out and do it part ofthe body.
So clear and light is a blend ofmultiple oils frankincense,
thyme, etc.
There's multiples and it worksso well that when people get the
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oils then they can figure outacupuncture points to apply to
those oils specifically forconditions.
And so, before I came over, mygranddaughter says I have a
cough, what do I do?
I didn't have time to talk toher as I did the other day,
because I wanted to do thisright here and I don't like
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doing that.
I want to spend time when theywant to ask questions, and so I
told her I'd call her anothertime and so I gave her some oil
points to help her with hercough, and those kind of things
are really nice, as well asother things.
So, yeah, I've developed somethings and help other people
develop.
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Yeah, that's the little funside note.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
Wonderful, wonderful.
And is there anything?
Just want to make sure.
Anything else you want to add?
Speaker 3 (48:29):
um, well, you know
this is a lot of information.
So, uh, have fun, have fun.
And if anybody wants to learnhow to coach you, know how to
deal with all this and advancetheir, their career, yeah,
please give us a call.
Or yeah, get the mind bodydictionary and have some fun
with it, and and and I reallyhonor those who also have so
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much understanding and hopefullywhat we do helps other people
wherever they are.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
Well, thank you so
much, Ronald.
What an amazing journey.
I mean, my goodness, I havefelt that I have come along on
this journey with you over thethree decades here, that you've
had all these experiences.
It's amazing, so well, welldone and you know.
Ronald wants to help people findthe truth within their body,
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heart and mind, which brings oneback to their authentic soul.
So check it out, check them outonline, get the book, get it a
part of your bookcase there,fill it up, love it Well, thank
you so much.
All right, my friends, ourwonderful listeners.
Thank you so much for joiningme on this journey.
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So I'm Tracy Seawright and thisis Ready Set Reiki.
Thank you.