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August 1, 2025 6 mins

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Full Episode Description: On this patreon exclusive, Torry (she/her) and Nick (he/him) discuss the fifth year anniversary of Taylor Swift’s folklore by drafting songs from the album. Then they share their current rankings of favourite and least favourite song and the cheese they’d eat while listening to the album.

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(00:00):
OK, let's talk about folklore. I listened to it today, 'cause
you were listening to it today. So I went for a little walk and
listened to it. Man, it is a buzzkill.
Which I believe is the first time that we've missed.
You're like, It is not a height of summer album.
So I will say, you know, giving some context for what we're

(00:22):
about to do. I was like, I'm gonna listen.
I was like, I need to listen to folklore because it's been a
while since I listened to it in full.
And I feel like I need to listento it on shuffle to like really
get a vibe in the song without it being like a cohesive, you
know, piece. Because I know the songs that I
like and I know where they come in the order and I know where
the songs I don't like and wherethey come in the order and when
I'm ready to move it along or ifI'm ready to like just fully

(00:44):
embrace the song. And I was like, I have a group
of people that don't really likeTaylor Swift kind of sitting in
the area right now. So you cheated.
So you, you fucking cheated first.
Of all. 1st of. All.
You sampled a poll of people, but.
The research did not yield the because I was sneaky listening

(01:11):
and eventually somebody's like, is this Taylor Swift a chance to
change the the Spotify playlist?And then I brought.
Up. At a strategic time, I there was
a strategic moment at which I got up to go get something for
the group and when I returned, they had jacked the speaker and
I was not able to finish my research except to confirm a

(01:32):
hypothesis I had previously had.That being said, I did listen to
it on my own while I was readingit later on.
And yeah, this not Summer Morning music, Nick.
No, I was like doing well, like I was like stoked on life and
stuff like that. I don't know, it's like a
beautiful day and stuff like that.
And I don't know, I, I was just in a what?

(01:55):
For once in my life, I was in a good mood.
And then I on this album and I was like, fuck.
And then I was like rude to likethe post office girl.
And I was like, yeah. Convictions.

(02:16):
No, I've been I've been singing in my head all day.
Like back when we were still changing for the better, wanting
was enough. OK, a little the summer I turned
pretty moment, which is what I've been watching lately.
So we're going to draft. So these are 8 songs that we
would show people that hate Taylor Swift from.

(02:37):
Folklore. From folklore, this does.
Work because when folklore firstcame out, people were like, oh,
this is good, This is not the Taylor Swift that we're used to.
This is a different type of Taylor Swift.
And I feel like people were backup on Taylor Swift, but people
have been down and they were. Up agreed.
But then Taylor Swift was at theheight of her game for like 3

(02:58):
years doing the Earth Tour. So I, I think it's, it's just go
back to folklore now and say like, are people still up on it?
And I do think that people are more up on it is in late July.
Yeah, it's folklore season. Yeah, folklore.
It's interesting because my mom,like, she knows all the

(03:19):
obviously the hits like Love Story and Shake It Off and stuff
like that. But she's obvious, like she's
not really like a Taylor Swift fan.
And she actually, she sent me, Ithink it was, it was either
Exile or this is me trying. And she was like, I finally like
a Taylor Swift song. I'm like, OK, like, like two of

(03:41):
the most depressing songs I've ever heard.
So yeah, I do think you're right.
I do think you're right. And there's 16 songs.
On Next Year, Next Year it's a rank the songs on folklore from
most depressing to least. To least depressing.
OK, I like that. I like that.
So there's 16 songs plus The Lakes, which is a bonus song.

(04:04):
We're going to include that so we don't have to draft Epiphany.
It's like it was just going to be a race to epiphany, like.
I wish you could have seen the text this morning where Tori was
like, OK, so we'll just write the 16 songs on folklore.

(04:27):
And I texted Tori back and I said, well, I will be including
the lakes in my draft for reasons.
So well, sorry, like you don't have to rate the Disney.
And I think it just, it's kismetthat it worked out that way.
And then we're going to have thelisteners vote on whose draft do

(04:49):
you think is better? And then I think maybe later in
the summer or maybe in the fall,we should do a bracket of the
songs like draft, like draft versus draft.
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