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January 30, 2025 37 mins

In this episode, Tania chats with Pema Rocker about the significance of oaths, commitments, and aspirations in the context of democracy and community engagement. They explore the presidential oath, the Constitution, and the importance of individual and collective commitments to strengthen democracy. The conversation emphasizes the need for understanding, listening, and personal growth as essential components of active citizenship and getting unstuck from our perspectives.

Links:

History of the 27th Amendment

Schoolhouse Rock Preamble to the Constitution


Tania Israel is a professor of counseling psychology and author of two books about dealing with political division.

⁠https://taniaisrael.com/⁠

Pema Rocker is a creative coach and author who writes about connection and collective healing.

⁠https://pemarocker.com/

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