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Happy new year, everyone.
Can you believe we areofficially in 2023?
Holy.
Shit.
It is wild how quickly time isgoing, but I am glad to be back
with a new season.
So this is season six.
(00:22):
Of real beauty with AFDC.
So wildly.
I have now been doing thispodcast for nearly two years.
And it has literally been thebest thing I have done.
I'm super, super excited to becontinuing.
And I have a great gassed.
(00:42):
Who is up and will be speakingto us about.
Body peace from within and alsotouching on resolutions Speaking
of resolutions.
Have you already made yours forthe year?
Do you make them on a yearlybasis?
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I know for me, I do.
And I truly try to takeadvantage of it being like a new
year, new star.
Opportunity to kind of writedown the things that I want to
accomplish.
So I will write from aprofessional standpoint of, this
is what I want to.
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Kind of ambitiously get afterwhen it comes to work.
And I always for sure, try andmanifest a promotion.
And I was fortunate enough atthe end of last year to get the
promotion that I was..
It's always good to continue toshoot for the stars.
Right.
From a podcast on point, Ireally feel that this has
(01:48):
continued to mold and.
Kind of change what I hadoriginally envisioned for some
of these conversations, which Ilove.
As I feel like they are on amuch deeper level.
And selfishly I've mentionedthis before, but I feel like I
(02:10):
have gained so much from a lotof these conversations.
It's kinda like him havingtherapy.
Outwardly, um, with some of myquestions and searching and
research.
And sometimes I forget thatpeople even listen to this.
So I can, I appreciate the fact,if you were still with me.
(02:30):
After two years.
You were the best and clearlyyou're my best friend.
Um, and you're not sick of myvoice, which I really, really
appreciate.
The other piece is I'm going toreally try and be kinder to
myself and how I view my body.
And I'm definitely not in.
(02:51):
The shape I was when I was 20,nor 25, but I also understand
realistically that.
I'm older and my body's gonethrough a lot.
I've also had a baby.
And I feel like I put so muchpressure on how I look
physically, instead of thinkingabout, I want to exercise or be
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fit because.
Like I want to be healthier orbecause I feel good.
So I'm really trying to kind ofchange that mindset and do this
to genuinely feel good aboutmyself and not because.
The other day I went into Zaraand a size Meagan didn't fit me.
I had to get a large, again,anyone that shops Asara they
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know their sizing is ridiculous.
And.
I am and have continued to beover the last, like, God knows
how many years.
Being a size six to four, or Iguess a four to six.
Um, So, anyway, I just want totry and be kinder to myself.
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And.
How can I continue thisconversation and promote this
kind of openness with mygirlfriends too, as I am really
conscious that.
Like so often we all kind of putourselves down and I want to be
the one to advocate for change.
And if any of my girlfriends arekind of making comments and we
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discuss this Nina.
I really want to kind of dobetter on.
Promoting people upwardly andnot kind of bouncing on the
bandwagon and being like, ohyeah, I feel like shit too.
And oh yeah.
Let's just not have this pieceof cake has having forbid, we
might put on like a stone byeating that one piece.
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Um, so I feel like I need to do.
Better.
Um, not just for myself, butwith others.
So, yeah, I do have like anumber of.
Cool things I'm trying to kinda.
Get after this year.
And the other thing that Iactually just recently created.
Um, so if you're interested, gocheck it out.
(05:04):
It's my Etsy store.
And it's called choose teas andI've kind of fixated on.
I love like a simple white teeand I feel like you can dress it
up, dress it down, but I lovethose kinds of statement tees.
So I'm going to see Taylor swiftthis year and selfishly, I
decided to make my own t-shirt.
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So I have a couple of optionsand like crop top in normal
teas.
I'm also obsessed with LeslieKnope, from parks and rec.
If I was any character.
A hundred percent be her and ifany of my colleagues are
listening they will know thatfor a fact anyways, I will.
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Finish this here.
Cause if not my God, I will likecontinue to ramble So please
enjoy episode one, season six.
Real beauty with FD.
Thanks for joining.
francene (06:17):
hi, Nina.
nina (06:19):
Hi Francine.
So nice
francene (06:22):
we.
We did it.
We made it.
nina (06:25):
Excellent.
Excellent.
Good.
Good.
Very good.
I am, um, usually coming to youfrom Boston, which is where I
live.
Yeah.
But right now I am in SandalIsland in Florida.
Oh, wow.
On the west, west side ofFlorida.
Um, and it's particularly in Oh,wow.
Because they got hit very badlyduring hurricane.
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Yeah, which is three months ago.
So it's um, the best way todescribe the island.
Um, and we've been coming down,my mom has a place here, we've
been coming down for 30 someyears.
Um, is post-apocalyptic.
Oh my
francene (07:02):
gosh.
Was there a lot of damage?
Like, was your mom okay?
Her
nina (07:08):
property?
So she was not here, nobody washere.
Everybody was required to leave.
Mm-hmm.
um, her property.
So on sandal, depending on whenyou built, people either built
on the ground like a regularhouse or they were required cuz
it was built a little bit lateron.
Stilts.
Okay.
Yeah.
So her house is on stilts.
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Um, but there was a downstairsarea room and bathroom.
That room was submerged in sixfeet of.
Oh my gosh.
Which basically means anybodywho was built on the ground,
their house is, is destroyedcompletely and everything
completely drenched in saltwaterand mud.
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Oh
francene (07:54):
gosh.
That is so sad.
So how long are you guys
nina (07:59):
there for?
Um, so we are here, my mother.
So my mother is 90.
She's the most intrepid, bravehuman being you will ever meet.
She's outrageous.
And she was like, no, I'm gonnago down.
And I was like, EV, everybody onthe street was like a, this is
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not a good idea.
And she was like, well, I, Idon't know what it is.
I don't know what I can dounless I can see it.
Yeah.
Came down, she got theelectricity working, she got
water running the kitchen andbedrooms were untouched.
The front was sort of, wasdamaged.
So floors went up.
Ceilings came down.
Yeah.
So we've been very busy.
(08:39):
Oh, I bet.
Um, Yeah.
Really reconstructing.
And um, and last night it wasvery sweet.
We went out, you have to go offisland to get anything now cuz
there's no infrastructure here.
Mm-hmm.
like, it, it all exists butnobody's in it.
It's very weird.
Um, and uh, like, just like youDr.
(09:00):
I'm gonna put post a video onsocial media cuz everybody's
like, what's it like there?
I'm like, you can't evenimagine.
Um, and.
uh, So, um, we went postChristmas sales.
We just bought a ton of whitetwinkle lights and it was like,
and put them all on the outsidebecause I saw one, one other
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house on sandal with lights, andit was a little like a beacon.
Yeah.
Like, we're still here.
francene (09:26):
Yeah.
Like, we're here too.
We're
nina (09:29):
here too, so we're just like, so anyway, so a little
more dramatic than me sitting inmy office in Boston.
Oh,
francene (09:38):
I'm sure.
I'm sure.
Also, it's nice for your mom tobe able to go back there and
start kind of building up andgetting back to like home again.
nina (09:50):
Yeah, a little bit.
A little bit.
francene (09:53):
So your Christmas, um, our holiday season is probably
being a lot more emotional.
nina (10:00):
Um, yeah.
It's, it's poignant.
You know, you get clear onwhat's really important.
Yeah,
francene (10:06):
it's true.
It is true.
I'm, um, so I have a four and ahalf year old and.
You know, I appreciate that,that it is this time of year,
especially for kids as they growolder, it's, you know, Santa
brings presents and it's such abig deal and sometimes it seems
like it's too much about thestuff and what am I gonna get
(10:27):
and when do I get the nextcandy.
So we're constantly trying to,as much as we can, keep her
grounded and be like, Hey, it'snot about this.
And, you know, yeah.
Totally fringe or, you know,other kind of, Things that we
can kind of represent adifferent story, that it's about
who you spend your time with andbeing together and appreciating
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that and appreciating what youhave in life.
Yeah, but it's hard.
I remember being younger andbeing like, okay, whatever mom,
dad stuff, like Sure.
nina (10:58):
Um, sure.
But the
francene (11:00):
stuff though, we, we try, um, especially, um, you
know, me and my husband, we trynot to spoil her, but at the
same time we look back in ourchildhood, which was great,
like, no, no complaints at all.
But at the same time, it's likeI want to be able to spoil her
and do nice stuff for her and,you know, do nice experiences,
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but there's such a fine line of,you also just don't want her
just to expect it, you know?
Totally not, not easy at thistime of year, especially even
just as an adult, like socialmedia is.
You know, an interestingplatform, how it shows such
great things, but at the sametime it's so hard not to compare
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or be like, wow, they got somegreat presents, or the house
looks amazing and I can't evencompete, you know?
Um, but before we deviate ontodifferent topics, cuz I have a
number of ones I wanna speak toyou about.
I wanna welcome you Nina to, um,real Beauty with f.
Um, so this is a place where wediscuss what beauty means to us,
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whether it's a product thatsells out every second around
the world, or cult classic todiscussing body positivity, to
building incredible brands.
We are here to find your littleblack dress in skincare makeup,
and more importantly, promotinghappiness within your own skin
and owning.
Each episode, I'm bringing in anew personality to discuss all
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things, beauty and touch ontheir inspiring stories.
And this week we have NinaOlsen, Mandelson.
nina (12:40):
Malson.
Okay.
Mandelson.
So if you think about it as man,and then Olson, Mandelson
francene (12:47):
Malson, did they say, right?
No.
nina (12:50):
So it's Mandelson, so that it's m a n, like man and woman,
man.
Olsen.
Olsen,
francene (12:57):
man.
Olsen.
Okay.
Nina.
Matt Olsen.
Um, who is a body peace coach.
So she helps people end the warwith food and body and finally
feel truly at home in theirbody, um, as it is, which is.
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Magical, and I'm so excitedabout talking more about this.
So you're known for being adeeply feminist, anti-D diet,
body piece approach, and youbring 30 years of experience as
a therapist.
So I'm so excited about speakingto you.
Um, Especially at this time ofyear where I feel as a woman, as
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a man, as whoever, we can't helpbut over-indulge and then feel
immediately guilty.
And again, I'm talking about thecomparisons on social media and
you're like, oh God, I hate howI look, blah, blah, blah.
And sometimes it puts a bit moreof a kind of toxic downer on.
The holiday season, um, insteadof just enjoying it for what it
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is, being involved in picturesbecause it brings memories and
it's a great time of year, butunfortunately there's this kind
of downer to how I look, how Ifeel about my body, um, which is
sad.
It really is sad.
Um, so tell me what is bodypiece and why do we need.
nina (14:24):
Yeah, so body peace is that feeling of feeling truly
that sigh, like I'm at home inmy body.
I'm not sucking in my tummy.
I'm not wondering what diet Ishould go on tomorrow.
I'm not feeling like I shouldstart again with yet whatever
the fad diet is.
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I'm not looking in the mirrorand criticizing my thighs or my
butt or my belly, or my arms ormy chin or all of it.
I'm just like, I get to live inthis cool body here I am, and it
feels good.
It doesn't feel, it doesn't feellike an aggressive relationship.
It doesn't feel like amanagement model of let me do
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something to this body to makeit better.
It feels like this is apositive, caring, supportive,
respectful, relat.
francene (15:22):
and how long have you been kinda on this journey to
promote body peace and how, howwas your own journey to get to
that point where you wereaccepting and you look
differently?
Like you appreciate what yourbody
nina (15:41):
can do for you?
Yeah, so I have been on thisjourney really since I was.
when I was first put on a dietmm-hmm.
uh, weight Watchers was out atthat time.
It was very big.
Uh, my mother was like, oh,let's get healthy and let's get
slim and let's do this thingtogether.
(16:04):
Right?
With the best of intentions.
Yeah.
Oh, we wanna take care ofourselves and our culture is
saying diets are the way to doit.
Great.
Let's do that together.
But what that did is start alifelong journey of, oh, let me
try this diet.
Oh, that's not workingsustainably for a long time.
(16:25):
You know that's not workingbecause the reality is, is 95%.
People who go on diets gaintheir weight back, if not more
in two, two to five years.
Yeah.
So, you know, I started when Iwas nine and I kept going all
through my teens reallyintensely in my teens.
Right.
Trying to fit into the, thegenes and look just like
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everybody else in the magazines,that sense of comparison, right.
The compare and despair andthen, Sorry to No, no worries.
Mommy Thank you.
Sorry.
(17:07):
Oh my gosh, that's Adorableness
francene (17:11):
She is outside of the fact, she just beat makeup all
over her face.
I'm like, okay, Luna.
Just, you know, you know Mama's
nina (17:17):
working right now.
Um,
francene (17:21):
anyway, sorry.
Um, no worries.
Culture.
Um,
nina (17:25):
Kinda looking.
Yes, so, so from this place ofalways being in this comparison
and always being in this, Ishould look different than I do,
came a sense of not enoughness.
And this is where we get intowhy is body peace important?
Yeah.
Because when we're not movingtowards a relationship with our
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body, that feels good, thatfeels easy, that feels like we
trust our body.
We're in a.
Time consuming, mentallyexhausting, emotionally draining
relationship with our body.
That takes up way too muchspace.
I've worked with so many womenwho are saying like, there's too
(18:07):
much real estate of my own braintaken up by, oh my gosh, do I
look okay?
I'm too fat.
I'm too, you know, wrinkly.
I'm too old, I'm too this, I'mtoo that.
It's like, wait a second.
Let's not do that anymore.
Let's feel good in our own skin,and from there we're more
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powerful.
Right?
So it wasn't really until I wasin my thirties that I was like,
wait a second, this is notworking.
Yeah.
And I don't wanna be doing this.
Right.
And now I'm in my fifties and inmy fifties I work with women who
are literally saying to me, Idon't wanna die hating my.
Yeah.
Right.
And I work with women of allages, right?
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Thirties, forties, fifties,sixties, seventies, eighties.
All of whom say, I just don'twanna be in this war anymore.
It takes up too much energy.
It makes me feel bad.
It's like a constant drain andreally, it's exhausting.
Right?
The way I knew I was reallyready for change with my
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relationship with my body is Iwas like, I am bored with the
conversation that I'm havingwith my body.
I am bored with, oh, maybe Ishouldn't have eaten that.
Oh, tomorrow I'll start again.
Yeah, we can do better.
We absolutely can do better.
And there is a way.
francene (19:31):
Yeah, it's true.
It's just, um, you know, I wasthinking about.
Like resolutions, you know, thistime of year, you know what?
Kind of looking at for okay, thenext year and what have I done
this year and did I hit myresolutions?
And immediately, immediately mybrain went to, I really need to
get my body back in shape.
And I was like, oh my God, whydoes my, like, why does my brain
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go there?
It's not like I really wannalearn guitar, or I really wanna
take up a new hobby.
Or it's like, why do weimmediately think about
improving how we look outwardlyinstead of thinking?
well, what could I do to improvemyself that will probably make
me feel better, more confident?
Um, and you know, I wasscrolling through Instagram and
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the one thing I hate about thistime of year two is I've seen so
many celebrities who you haven'treally seen posts in like a
couple of months, and then allof a sudden they're like, Hey, I
had this new app and it's afitness app, and look how I got
my body back.
Mm-hmm.
and you think mm-hmm.
like, I understand.
You know, each their, whateverthey're looking at.
(20:39):
But for me personally, I'm like,well, I'm a working mom.
And it's not, it's, thelifestyles are different.
The money's different.
Mm-hmm.
I don't have a pt.
Mm-hmm.
So that app that they're tryingto promote, I'm like, I know
that that's not real.
I know that that's not how theygot that body, but mm-hmm.
eating this constantly.
(20:59):
So then it makes you think, ohGod, I really need to get my
body back next year.
And okay, I need to just stopeating and, oh God, I've eaten
all this stuff at Christmas.
So how do you challenge yourselfas you are at this time of year?
And everyone's talking aboutresolutions and the other thing.
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which again, each to your own,and I'm not necessarily a big
drinker, but it's dry January,and you're like, what is the
point of dry January?
Because then it's like no onewants to do anything.
Everyone falls deeper into thatlike post holiday blues, and you
think you're not helpingyourself by depriving.
(21:40):
Yes.
If you need to cut back, fine.
If you're thinking about thisfrom a health perspective and
you're like, I've been drinkingtoo much, I need to cut back.
But it's when, same as diet, youcut out everything, then you get
to February and you just bingemm-hmm.
And you think, how is, that'snot helping.
Um, so I feel I'm always, whenit comes to my friends, I'm
like, can we not do dry January?
(22:01):
Can you not be that person tojust cut yourself off for a
month and then I don't see youand you're miserable.
So how, how do you how do youdo, I'm sure you've been having
a
nina (22:11):
lot of conversations, there's so many things that
you're bringing up that are soimportant.
One is this idea of deprivation.
What happens when we decide Nomore something, right?
That's one.
The other idea is this idea ofgetting my body back.
Right.
How do we getting my body back,what does that really mean?
Let's unpack that.
And the way that I wanna startthe whole conversation is, I
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don't know if you know thisFrancine, but I write poems, I
write body peace poems, and Iwrite them in service to
changing the conversation thatwe have with our body and our
food, the way that women talk,people talk about their body and
food, and there's a poem, ifyou're up for it, that I'd love
to share with you.
Please.
Yeah, please.
I would love, ok, so this one'scalled Start Again.
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Resolutions are passe.
Well, at least I'm over them.
But that desire to wipe theslate clean, to get back in the
saddle to start again, stilllingers.
The hope of redemption, of doingbetter, of improving, it drives
us.
To look at tomorrow, at Monday,at the first of the month, the
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first of the year, as a momentto transform, to eat better, to
move more, to go to bed on time.
But the potential isn't thestart line that's out there.
The power is in the listening.
The power is in the power is theinternal experience.
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the listening is our momentum.
Skip the starting blocks, sinkinto all the feels.
How can you support yourselfright now?
Right?
And so essentially in that poem,what I'm speaking to is the
difference of, oh, the startingblock is out there.
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I'm gonna start again.
I'm gonna make this thing happenversus wait, let's come.
Let's do the listening in.
That's where our growth mindset,right.
Different than I'm gonna wipethe slate clean, which is so
appealing.
Yeah.
We all have it.
I can't tell you how many likenew journals I have, right?
(24:24):
Oh, I'm gonna start again.
Right?
We have that desire, butinstead, if we can say actually
what creates.
change is a sense of a growthmindset.
And where does that come from?
It comes from listening to whatwe actually need.
So to come back to that, whatyou said, get my body back.
Well, what does that meanexactly?
(24:45):
Right.
Because we could look at it as,oh, I'm gonna get my body back,
and it's gonna look like X star.
Right?
It's gonna look like Shakira.
It's gonna look like Lizzo.
Liz doesn't, maybe the wrongexample in this, but it's gonna
look like J lo Yeah.
It's gonna look like somebodywho's like super slim and, and
(25:06):
super, um, into fitness.
Yeah.
Right.
Instead of what if I was gettingmy body back in a way that I was
actually developing arelationship of trust with her.
Mm-hmm.
Right?
That's a body like Lizzo, right?
I trust this body.
Mm-hmm.
this body is beautiful as it is,and I, and I am in it loud and
(25:26):
proud.
right?
Getting my body back is actuallya very powerful phrase.
It's saying, I want thisrelationship.
I wanna reclaim it.
I don't want my body to be acommodity that this, the diet
industry, the fitness industry,the aging industry, is making
money off of this is my body.
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I claim the wisdom that's withinher, that's getting, truly
getting my body.
Oh my god, I
francene (25:57):
That change.
Yeah.
I love that mindset, like shiftof like just taking that phrase
that we use so negatively to Iam reclaiming it.
I love
nina (26:09):
that.
Happy new year, everyone.
Can you believe we areofficially in 2023?
Holy.
Shit.
It is wild how quickly time isgoing, but I am glad to be back
with a new season.
So this is season six.
(00:22):
Of real beauty with AFDC.
So wildly.
I have now been doing thispodcast for nearly two years.
And it has literally been thebest thing I have done.
I'm super, super excited to becontinuing.
And I have a great gassed.
(00:42):
Who is up and will be speakingto us about.
Body peace from within and alsotouching on resolutions Speaking
of resolutions.
Have you already made yours forthe year?
Do you make them on a yearlybasis?
(01:04):
I know for me, I do.
And I truly try to takeadvantage of it being like a new
year, new star.
Opportunity to kind of writedown the things that I want to
accomplish.
So I will write from aprofessional standpoint of, this
is what I want to.
(01:25):
Kind of ambitiously get afterwhen it comes to work.
And I always for sure, try andmanifest a promotion.
And I was fortunate enough atthe end of last year to get the
promotion that I was..
It's always good to continue toshoot for the stars.
Right.
From a podcast on point, Ireally feel that this has
(01:48):
continued to mold and.
Kind of change what I hadoriginally envisioned for some
of these conversations, which Ilove.
As I feel like they are on amuch deeper level.
And selfishly I've mentionedthis before, but I feel like I
(02:10):
have gained so much from a lotof these conversations.
It's kinda like him havingtherapy.
Outwardly, um, with some of myquestions and searching and
research.
And sometimes I forget thatpeople even listen to this.
So I can, I appreciate the fact,if you were still with me.
(02:30):
After two years.
You were the best and clearlyyou're my best friend.
Um, and you're not sick of myvoice, which I really, really
appreciate.
The other piece is I'm going toreally try and be kinder to
myself and how I view my body.
And I'm definitely not in.
(02:51):
The shape I was when I was 20,nor 25, but I also understand
realistically that.
I'm older and my body's gonethrough a lot.
I've also had a baby.
And I feel like I put so muchpressure on how I look
physically, instead of thinkingabout, I want to exercise or be
(03:15):
fit because.
Like I want to be healthier orbecause I feel good.
So I'm really trying to kind ofchange that mindset and do this
to genuinely feel good aboutmyself and not because.
The other day I went into Zaraand a size Meagan didn't fit me.
I had to get a large, again,anyone that shops Asara they
(03:38):
know their sizing is ridiculous.
And.
I am and have continued to beover the last, like, God knows
how many years.
Being a size six to four, or Iguess a four to six.
Um, So, anyway, I just want totry and be kinder to myself.
(03:59):
And.
How can I continue thisconversation and promote this
kind of openness with mygirlfriends too, as I am really
conscious that.
Like so often we all kind of putourselves down and I want to be
the one to advocate for change.
And if any of my girlfriends arekind of making comments and we
(04:22):
discuss this Nina.
I really want to kind of dobetter on.
Promoting people upwardly andnot kind of bouncing on the
bandwagon and being like, ohyeah, I feel like shit too.
And oh yeah.
Let's just not have this pieceof cake has having forbid, we
might put on like a stone byeating that one piece.
(04:42):
Um, so I feel like I need to do.
Better.
Um, not just for myself, butwith others.
So, yeah, I do have like anumber of.
Cool things I'm trying to kinda.
Get after this year.
And the other thing that Iactually just recently created.
Um, so if you're interested, gocheck it out.
(05:04):
It's my Etsy store.
And it's called choose teas andI've kind of fixated on.
I love like a simple white teeand I feel like you can dress it
up, dress it down, but I lovethose kinds of statement tees.
So I'm going to see Taylor swiftthis year and selfishly, I
decided to make my own t-shirt.
(05:27):
So I have a couple of optionsand like crop top in normal
teas.
I'm also obsessed with LeslieKnope, from parks and rec.
If I was any character.
A hundred percent be her and ifany of my colleagues are
listening they will know thatfor a fact anyways, I will.
(05:48):
Finish this here.
Cause if not my God, I will likecontinue to ramble So please
enjoy episode one, season six.
Real beauty with FD.
Thanks for joining.
francene (06:17):
hi, Nina.
nina (06:19):
Hi Francine.
So nice
francene (06:22):
we.
We did it.
We made it.
nina (06:25):
Excellent.
Excellent.
Good.
Good.
Very good.
I am, um, usually coming to youfrom Boston, which is where I
live.
Yeah.
But right now I am in SandalIsland in Florida.
Oh, wow.
On the west, west side ofFlorida.
Um, and it's particularly in Oh,wow.
Because they got hit very badlyduring hurricane.
(06:48):
Yeah, which is three months ago.
So it's um, the best way todescribe the island.
Um, and we've been coming down,my mom has a place here, we've
been coming down for 30 someyears.
Um, is post-apocalyptic.
Oh my
francene (07:02):
gosh.
Was there a lot of damage?
Like, was your mom okay?
Her
nina (07:08):
property?
So she was not here, nobody washere.
Everybody was required to leave.
Mm-hmm.
um, her property.
So on sandal, depending on whenyou built, people either built
on the ground like a regularhouse or they were required cuz
it was built a little bit lateron.
Stilts.
Okay.
Yeah.
So her house is on stilts.
(07:31):
Um, but there was a downstairsarea room and bathroom.
That room was submerged in sixfeet of.
Oh my gosh.
Which basically means anybodywho was built on the ground,
their house is, is destroyedcompletely and everything
completely drenched in saltwaterand mud.
(07:54):
Oh
francene (07:54):
gosh.
That is so sad.
So how long are you guys
nina (07:59):
there for?
Um, so we are here, my mother.
So my mother is 90.
She's the most intrepid, bravehuman being you will ever meet.
She's outrageous.
And she was like, no, I'm gonnago down.
And I was like, EV, everybody onthe street was like a, this is
(08:19):
not a good idea.
And she was like, well, I, Idon't know what it is.
I don't know what I can dounless I can see it.
Yeah.
Came down, she got theelectricity working, she got
water running the kitchen andbedrooms were untouched.
The front was sort of, wasdamaged.
So floors went up.
Ceilings came down.
Yeah.
So we've been very busy.
(08:39):
Oh, I bet.
Um, Yeah.
Really reconstructing.
And um, and last night it wasvery sweet.
We went out, you have to go offisland to get anything now cuz
there's no infrastructure here.
Mm-hmm.
like, it, it all exists butnobody's in it.
It's very weird.
Um, and uh, like, just like youDr.
(09:00):
I'm gonna put post a video onsocial media cuz everybody's
like, what's it like there?
I'm like, you can't evenimagine.
Um, and.
uh, So, um, we went postChristmas sales.
We just bought a ton of whitetwinkle lights and it was like,
and put them all on the outsidebecause I saw one, one other
(09:21):
house on sandal with lights, andit was a little like a beacon.
Yeah.
Like, we're still here.
francene (09:26):
Yeah.
Like, we're here too.
We're
nina (09:29):
here too, so we're just like, so anyway, so a little
more dramatic than me sitting inmy office in Boston.
Oh,
francene (09:38):
I'm sure.
I'm sure.
Also, it's nice for your mom tobe able to go back there and
start kind of building up andgetting back to like home again.
nina (09:50):
Yeah, a little bit.
A little bit.
francene (09:53):
So your Christmas, um, our holiday season is probably
being a lot more emotional.
nina (10:00):
Um, yeah.
It's, it's poignant.
You know, you get clear onwhat's really important.
Yeah,
francene (10:06):
it's true.
It is true.
I'm, um, so I have a four and ahalf year old and.
You know, I appreciate that,that it is this time of year,
especially for kids as they growolder, it's, you know, Santa
brings presents and it's such abig deal and sometimes it seems
like it's too much about thestuff and what am I gonna get
(10:27):
and when do I get the nextcandy.
So we're constantly trying to,as much as we can, keep her
grounded and be like, Hey, it'snot about this.
And, you know, yeah.
Totally fringe or, you know,other kind of, Things that we
can kind of represent adifferent story, that it's about
who you spend your time with andbeing together and appreciating
(10:48):
that and appreciating what youhave in life.
Yeah, but it's hard.
I remember being younger andbeing like, okay, whatever mom,
dad stuff, like Sure.
nina (10:58):
Um, sure.
But the
francene (11:00):
stuff though, we, we try, um, especially, um, you
know, me and my husband, we trynot to spoil her, but at the
same time we look back in ourchildhood, which was great,
like, no, no complaints at all.
But at the same time, it's likeI want to be able to spoil her
and do nice stuff for her and,you know, do nice experiences,
(11:23):
but there's such a fine line of,you also just don't want her
just to expect it, you know?
Totally not, not easy at thistime of year, especially even
just as an adult, like socialmedia is.
You know, an interestingplatform, how it shows such
great things, but at the sametime it's so hard not to compare
(11:46):
or be like, wow, they got somegreat presents, or the house
looks amazing and I can't evencompete, you know?
Um, but before we deviate ontodifferent topics, cuz I have a
number of ones I wanna speak toyou about.
I wanna welcome you Nina to, um,real Beauty with f.
Um, so this is a place where wediscuss what beauty means to us,
(12:09):
whether it's a product thatsells out every second around
the world, or cult classic todiscussing body positivity, to
building incredible brands.
We are here to find your littleblack dress in skincare makeup,
and more importantly, promotinghappiness within your own skin
and owning.
Each episode, I'm bringing in anew personality to discuss all
(12:31):
things, beauty and touch ontheir inspiring stories.
And this week we have NinaOlsen, Mandelson.
nina (12:40):
Malson.
Okay.
Mandelson.
So if you think about it as man,and then Olson, Mandelson
francene (12:47):
Malson, did they say, right?
No.
nina (12:50):
So it's Mandelson, so that it's m a n, like man and woman,
man.
Olsen.
Olsen,
francene (12:57):
man.
Olsen.
Okay.
Nina.
Matt Olsen.
Um, who is a body peace coach.
So she helps people end the warwith food and body and finally
feel truly at home in theirbody, um, as it is, which is.
(13:18):
Magical, and I'm so excitedabout talking more about this.
So you're known for being adeeply feminist, anti-D diet,
body piece approach, and youbring 30 years of experience as
a therapist.
So I'm so excited about speakingto you.
Um, Especially at this time ofyear where I feel as a woman, as
(13:41):
a man, as whoever, we can't helpbut over-indulge and then feel
immediately guilty.
And again, I'm talking about thecomparisons on social media and
you're like, oh God, I hate howI look, blah, blah, blah.
And sometimes it puts a bit moreof a kind of toxic downer on.
The holiday season, um, insteadof just enjoying it for what it
(14:03):
is, being involved in picturesbecause it brings memories and
it's a great time of year, butunfortunately there's this kind
of downer to how I look, how Ifeel about my body, um, which is
sad.
It really is sad.
Um, so tell me what is bodypiece and why do we need.
nina (14:24):
Yeah, so body peace is that feeling of feeling truly
that sigh, like I'm at home inmy body.
I'm not sucking in my tummy.
I'm not wondering what diet Ishould go on tomorrow.
I'm not feeling like I shouldstart again with yet whatever
the fad diet is.
(14:44):
I'm not looking in the mirrorand criticizing my thighs or my
butt or my belly, or my arms ormy chin or all of it.
I'm just like, I get to live inthis cool body here I am, and it
feels good.
It doesn't feel, it doesn't feellike an aggressive relationship.
It doesn't feel like amanagement model of let me do
(15:09):
something to this body to makeit better.
It feels like this is apositive, caring, supportive,
respectful, relat.
francene (15:22):
and how long have you been kinda on this journey to
promote body peace and how, howwas your own journey to get to
that point where you wereaccepting and you look
differently?
Like you appreciate what yourbody
nina (15:41):
can do for you?
Yeah, so I have been on thisjourney really since I was.
when I was first put on a dietmm-hmm.
uh, weight Watchers was out atthat time.
It was very big.
Uh, my mother was like, oh,let's get healthy and let's get
slim and let's do this thingtogether.
(16:04):
Right?
With the best of intentions.
Yeah.
Oh, we wanna take care ofourselves and our culture is
saying diets are the way to doit.
Great.
Let's do that together.
But what that did is start alifelong journey of, oh, let me
try this diet.
Oh, that's not workingsustainably for a long time.
(16:25):
You know that's not workingbecause the reality is, is 95%.
People who go on diets gaintheir weight back, if not more
in two, two to five years.
Yeah.
So, you know, I started when Iwas nine and I kept going all
through my teens reallyintensely in my teens.
Right.
Trying to fit into the, thegenes and look just like
(16:47):
everybody else in the magazines,that sense of comparison, right.
The compare and despair andthen, Sorry to No, no worries.
Mommy Thank you.
Sorry.
(17:07):
Oh my gosh, that's Adorableness
francene (17:11):
She is outside of the fact, she just beat makeup all
over her face.
I'm like, okay, Luna.
Just, you know, you know Mama's
nina (17:17):
working right now.
Um,
francene (17:21):
anyway, sorry.
Um, no worries.
Culture.
Um,
nina (17:25):
Kinda looking.
Yes, so, so from this place ofalways being in this comparison
and always being in this, Ishould look different than I do,
came a sense of not enoughness.
And this is where we get intowhy is body peace important?
Yeah.
Because when we're not movingtowards a relationship with our
(17:46):
body, that feels good, thatfeels easy, that feels like we
trust our body.
We're in a.
Time consuming, mentallyexhausting, emotionally draining
relationship with our body.
That takes up way too muchspace.
I've worked with so many womenwho are saying like, there's too
(18:07):
much real estate of my own braintaken up by, oh my gosh, do I
look okay?
I'm too fat.
I'm too, you know, wrinkly.
I'm too old, I'm too this, I'mtoo that.
It's like, wait a second.
Let's not do that anymore.
Let's feel good in our own skin,and from there we're more
(18:30):
powerful.
Right?
So it wasn't really until I wasin my thirties that I was like,
wait a second, this is notworking.
Yeah.
And I don't wanna be doing this.
Right.
And now I'm in my fifties and inmy fifties I work with women who
are literally saying to me, Idon't wanna die hating my.
Yeah.
Right.
And I work with women of allages, right?
(18:52):
Thirties, forties, fifties,sixties, seventies, eighties.
All of whom say, I just don'twanna be in this war anymore.
It takes up too much energy.
It makes me feel bad.
It's like a constant drain andreally, it's exhausting.
Right?
The way I knew I was reallyready for change with my
(19:14):
relationship with my body is Iwas like, I am bored with the
conversation that I'm havingwith my body.
I am bored with, oh, maybe Ishouldn't have eaten that.
Oh, tomorrow I'll start again.
Yeah, we can do better.
We absolutely can do better.
And there is a way.
francene (19:31):
Yeah, it's true.
It's just, um, you know, I wasthinking about.
Like resolutions, you know, thistime of year, you know what?
Kind of looking at for okay, thenext year and what have I done
this year and did I hit myresolutions?
And immediately, immediately mybrain went to, I really need to
get my body back in shape.
And I was like, oh my God, whydoes my, like, why does my brain
(19:54):
go there?
It's not like I really wannalearn guitar, or I really wanna
take up a new hobby.
Or it's like, why do weimmediately think about
improving how we look outwardlyinstead of thinking?
well, what could I do to improvemyself that will probably make
me feel better, more confident?
Um, and you know, I wasscrolling through Instagram and
(20:17):
the one thing I hate about thistime of year two is I've seen so
many celebrities who you haven'treally seen posts in like a
couple of months, and then allof a sudden they're like, Hey, I
had this new app and it's afitness app, and look how I got
my body back.
Mm-hmm.
and you think mm-hmm.
like, I understand.
You know, each their, whateverthey're looking at.
(20:39):
But for me personally, I'm like,well, I'm a working mom.
And it's not, it's, thelifestyles are different.
The money's different.
Mm-hmm.
I don't have a pt.
Mm-hmm.
So that app that they're tryingto promote, I'm like, I know
that that's not real.
I know that that's not how theygot that body, but mm-hmm.
eating this constantly.
(20:59):
So then it makes you think, ohGod, I really need to get my
body back next year.
And okay, I need to just stopeating and, oh God, I've eaten
all this stuff at Christmas.
So how do you challenge yourselfas you are at this time of year?
And everyone's talking aboutresolutions and the other thing.
(21:19):
which again, each to your own,and I'm not necessarily a big
drinker, but it's dry January,and you're like, what is the
point of dry January?
Because then it's like no onewants to do anything.
Everyone falls deeper into thatlike post holiday blues, and you
think you're not helpingyourself by depriving.
(21:40):
Yes.
If you need to cut back, fine.
If you're thinking about thisfrom a health perspective and
you're like, I've been drinkingtoo much, I need to cut back.
But it's when, same as diet, youcut out everything, then you get
to February and you just bingemm-hmm.
And you think, how is, that'snot helping.
Um, so I feel I'm always, whenit comes to my friends, I'm
like, can we not do dry January?
(22:01):
Can you not be that person tojust cut yourself off for a
month and then I don't see youand you're miserable.
So how, how do you how do youdo, I'm sure you've been having
a
nina (22:11):
lot of conversations, there's so many things that
you're bringing up that are soimportant.
One is this idea of deprivation.
What happens when we decide Nomore something, right?
That's one.
The other idea is this idea ofgetting my body back.
Right.
How do we getting my body back,what does that really mean?
Let's unpack that.
And the way that I wanna startthe whole conversation is, I
(22:33):
don't know if you know thisFrancine, but I write poems, I
write body peace poems, and Iwrite them in service to
changing the conversation thatwe have with our body and our
food, the way that women talk,people talk about their body and
food, and there's a poem, ifyou're up for it, that I'd love
to share with you.
Please.
Yeah, please.
I would love, ok, so this one'scalled Start Again.
(22:55):
Resolutions are passe.
Well, at least I'm over them.
But that desire to wipe theslate clean, to get back in the
saddle to start again, stilllingers.
The hope of redemption, of doingbetter, of improving, it drives
us.
To look at tomorrow, at Monday,at the first of the month, the
(23:17):
first of the year, as a momentto transform, to eat better, to
move more, to go to bed on time.
But the potential isn't thestart line that's out there.
The power is in the listening.
The power is in the power is theinternal experience.
(23:42):
the listening is our momentum.
Skip the starting blocks, sinkinto all the feels.
How can you support yourselfright now?
Right?
And so essentially in that poem,what I'm speaking to is the
difference of, oh, the startingblock is out there.
(24:04):
I'm gonna start again.
I'm gonna make this thing happenversus wait, let's come.
Let's do the listening in.
That's where our growth mindset,right.
Different than I'm gonna wipethe slate clean, which is so
appealing.
Yeah.
We all have it.
I can't tell you how many likenew journals I have, right?
(24:24):
Oh, I'm gonna start again.
Right?
We have that desire, butinstead, if we can say actually
what creates.
change is a sense of a growthmindset.
And where does that come from?
It comes from listening to whatwe actually need.
So to come back to that, whatyou said, get my body back.
Well, what does that meanexactly?
(24:45):
Right.
Because we could look at it as,oh, I'm gonna get my body back,
and it's gonna look like X star.
Right?
It's gonna look like Shakira.
It's gonna look like Lizzo.
Liz doesn't, maybe the wrongexample in this, but it's gonna
look like J lo Yeah.
It's gonna look like somebodywho's like super slim and, and
(25:06):
super, um, into fitness.
Yeah.
Right.
Instead of what if I was gettingmy body back in a way that I was
actually developing arelationship of trust with her.
Mm-hmm.
Right?
That's a body like Lizzo, right?
I trust this body.
Mm-hmm.
this body is beautiful as it is,and I, and I am in it loud and
(25:26):
proud.
right?
Getting my body back is actuallya very powerful phrase.
It's saying, I want thisrelationship.
I wanna reclaim it.
I don't want my body to be acommodity that this, the diet
industry, the fitness industry,the aging industry, is making
money off of this is my body.
(25:48):
I claim the wisdom that's withinher, that's getting, truly
getting my body.
Oh my god, I
francene (25:57):
That change.
Yeah.
I love that mindset, like shiftof like just taking that phrase
that we use so negatively to Iam reclaiming it.
I love
nina (26:09):
that.
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