EP 44: Exploring the Immigrant Experience and American Values

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
We're ready to go.
What episode is it?
You think 44.
44.
All right, cadillac, haven'tseen you in at least five, six,
seven, I don't know.
Seven episodes maybe, or more.
Well, no, we did the NAR thing.
I was more like a class than anepisode.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
It was for me at least, that's what.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
I do for a living, so you've been out and about.
Where have you taught in thelast, uh, in the last month?

Speaker 2 (00:29):
oh, man, I know you were in germany for a while.
I was in germany for a while.
I've been uh, I've been allover the place.
Man montana, I'm going to southdakota next week.
I'm going to the panhandle soyou don't drink, right?

Speaker 1 (00:39):
no, that fascinates me, right?
So what do you do in Germany ifyou don't drink?

Speaker 2 (00:44):
I mean there's plenty to do.
There's a lot of food, Okay.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
So you're a food guy.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Definitely a food guy .
I'm a fat kid dude.
Yeah, feed me, I'm a happy guy.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
So you just go to restaurants.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Go to restaurants.
I mean there's a lot to seethere.
A lot of world history wentthrough there Did you know, that
sounds like it's funny.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
So, for whatever reason we switched, we're no
longer popular in Australia.
What was it like?
12% of our viewership was fromGermany.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yeah, yeah, Well, there you go.
I mean, Germany is goingthrough some stuff.
It's a very interesting culturethere here.
If somebody's got a nice car,you're like, oh man, I'd like to
be like that person Over there.
You've got a nice car andyou're like, oh man, I like to
be like that person over there.
You got a nice car.
Like, you're ripping people off, You're a bad person.
I mean, they try very much todo that here there's, there's a

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subset of of of society thattries to make us lefty or righty
over there.
Oh my gosh, yeah, A shade leftof marks.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
I mean, I don't want to say they're, I'm being silly.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
They're very green.
They've made some veryinteresting choices based upon
that that have really hurt themas far as making them dependent
upon other parts of the worldfor their resources.
They've gone away entirely fromnuclear power, which has made
them very dependent upon Russiafor natural gas.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yeah, and that whole nuclear power shit is ridiculous
, like nuclear power is one ofthe safest powers out there,
cleanest thing that we got,cleanest thing we have by far,
those submarines, those nuclearsubmarines and stuff.
They could just go aroundforever.
What stops them is that theyhave humans in them.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Yeah, they got to get food and all that stuff, but
they could go on forever.
So I mean, the big issues withnuclear is the disposal of the
waste, but the amount of wastethat's generated is
infinitesimally small comparedto the amount of power that it
generates.
It's not the cleanest that wehave.
Obviously.
You know wind and all thisother stuff is super clean,
except that it's unreliable, andwhen you need it you don't have

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it.
So what you're forced to do iswhat they'll do with places like
solar.
They'll harvest the solarenergy.
Now they have more than theyneed.
They'll use that to pump waterup a hill and then, when they
don't have sun, they'll let thewater go down the hill, use that
to turn a water wheel andthat's how they actually create
a I believe it's called akinetic battery, and so they

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store the power for later byusing the power to do something
that then will allow them totake and re-harvest.
But obviously, whenever you dosomething like that, there's
power loss, so it's inefficient.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Yes, one of the times that I spoke to you or texted
you or whatever, you were likegoing 200 on the Autobahn.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah Well, we were doing 270 kilometers per hour,
so that's 165-ish.
Yeah, no, he was having fun andeverybody's going that speed.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
No.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
No, no, no, it's crazy because— but you're
allowed to go.
There is no speed limit.
There are parts of it wherethere are no speed limit and the
thing is that once again thatjealousy thing comes up, so like
, if you're driving like aPorsche or something like that,
people get out of the way.
The car that we were in most ofthe time was this Mercedes SUV

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that he had with the high-endtwin turbo, eight-cylinder
monster, and so he's, he'smoving really good, but people,
like intentionally, would stayin the way to to like kind of
slow you down, even though it'sthe autobahn, right, even though
it's the autobahn.
So on the autobahn there'sthere's much better rules than
we have there.
Like you can't pass on theright hand side, it's not
allowed but if you're notpassing you can't be in the
left-hand line Interesting, andso he was perpetually passing
and there were people that werejust sitting there poking around

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in that left-hand line Justbeing dicks?

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yeah, pretty much Interesting being horrible.
So what's the food over there?
Because Germany's not known fortheir food, just like London,
or just like England.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
I know England is known for staying from their
food.
No, germany is when it comes topork and chocolate and things
like that.
They're really really good Porkand chocolate, right yeah?

Speaker 1 (04:25):
that's interesting.
No, I did well over there onthe and I mean a lot of.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
There's a lot of good baked products like pies.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
So what you mean?
Museums?
What are you looking at likethat?

Speaker 2 (04:33):
No, it was really more just driving around.
Look at the time we drove toHamburg, we drove to Berlin,
Bloomberg.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
So I have, for whatever reason I realized when
we had this Jewish NBA agent, Irealized that I have an
extremely anti-Semitic audience.
Is there anything you couldgive us?
Did you see anything over therethat would make our
anti-Semitic viewers?

Speaker 2 (05:00):
happy, I imagine, more annoyed than anything else.
Over there there's any wisp ofanything, even any kind of
nationalism, like if you at allsay you're a proud German,
you're immediately a Nazi.
I mean, there's no middleground there.
There is no nationalism.
That's a lot like so they arewhere we're headed, is what

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you're saying.
They are where they're tryingto get us Like you, displaying
their flag makes you a Nazi.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Right like here.
Well, here, if you display theAmerican flag, you're a
Republican.
Right, if you're embarrassed orburning a flag, you're a
Democrat.
I mean that's just.
I mean that's kind of like arule of thumb right?

Speaker 2 (05:39):
I mean, I don't know that it's.
I don't know that you're wrong.
I I don't know that you'rewrong.
I don't know that you're 100%right, but you're probably more
right, 99%.
It's probably a higherpercentage than and it's an
interesting thing, right?
I think the basic assumption iskind of this.
I think the people on the rightassume this is a good country
that's made some mistakes, butwhat's good is well worth

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preserving and building toward.
The left's position is this isa.
They start with the idea thatthis is a bad country who's made
a whole bunch of horrible moralchoices and it's almost
irredeemable.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
I know, see, but obviously you and I see eye to
eye on, I would say, almosteverything politically, maybe
abortion I haven't even talkedto you about abortion.
Maybe we're on different sidesof that, but who right?
But for an immigrant likemyself and you, it's interesting
because you were born here butyou have an immigrant mentality
still like it was.

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It was you know, brought upyour your dad raised you like a
fucking immigrant, yeah, and youknow like, just appreciate what
you have here and the wholesituation.
So when I when I see me growingup again, I came from Cuba on a
shrimp boat.
I've said it a million times onthis podcast right For us to
come to the United States.

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It was just the opportunity ofa lifetime, something worth
risking your life for.
It is so amazing on that sidethat it is worth risking your
life.
Now, when things would getcomplicated is if we got here
and we're like, oh shit, this isnot that, I just risked my life
for no reason.
Yeah, yeah yeah.
But no, it is exactly what it'ssupposed to be, as advertised.

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So it's interesting because,growing up an immigrant, I
always found myself very proudof being american, right like
being american.
So I grew up around the peoplethat I grew up on american flag
is it's.
You should be proud of beingamerican?
I don't know where the fuckthis turned around, where now,

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all of a sudden, if you're theguy with the american flag, if
you have an American flag onyour car or on your boat or on
your whatever it's like you are,I don't know what are the
Democrats tag you as or labelyou as, if you're flying.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
The only way to take and do this is they've taught a
very stilted version of history.
Right, they've gone down theroad.
And one of the most cited guysis Howard Zinn, who made up, he
wrote a history book that wasbasically historical fiction.
Right, they've gone down theroad, and one of the most cited
guys is Howard Zinn, who made upa wrote a history book that was
basically historical fiction.
Right, and it's been passed offthat the academia picked up on
it and loved it.
I mean, the vast majority ofpeople in the Howard Zinn

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society that worship at thisguy's altar are academics, alter
our academics, and the realityof it is it's one of the most
poorly researched, one of themost incorrect, one of the most
factually just fabricated piecesof information.
But the left has fallen overChristopher Columbus,

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christopher Columbus.
For hundreds of years.
Even the people that were mostcritical of what went on all
said people should have beenmore like Columbus, because
Columbus tried his absolutelevel best to do the right thing
.
Howard Zinn undid that bytaking two different quotes from
Christopher Columbus, throwingthem together in his book,

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completely out of context, andsaying this is who this guy was,
that he was trying to enslavepeople context and saying this
is who this guy was, that he wastrying to enslave people, and
that, unchecked, unresearched,has been accepted as gospel
doctrine by the left in academia, in classrooms, all over the
place.
And this is how they sourpeople on history.
Look, understanding andadmitting history is nuanced.

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All right, there were mistakesmade, there were things done
well and things done poorly, butoverall, when you compare it to
the history of the rest of theworld, the United States has to
come out ahead of that thingover just about everybody, and
we have been the oneoverwhelmingly that has been
keeping the peace all this time.
Because, frankly, if we stepback, europe has a huge problem

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the Far East.
So all of this stuff thatpeople want to take and make us
the bad guy.
There's a famous saying I thinkit's attributed to Voltaire,
but I'm not sure it's his theperfect is the enemy of the good
.
In other words, if you arecomparing something to
perfection, you will never behappy with what you actually
have.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
Well, yeah, and comparison is the comparison is
the enemy of happiness.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
When you worry about yourself and where you're going,
you're good.
When you start comparingyourself to everybody else.
Well, why did he step up threesteps faster than I did, and why
am I only up two steps?
And everything.
That's when things go wrong.
If you worry about yourself andyou worry about you, stay
focused on you getting better.
And it's that old saying.
You know I'm only competingagainst myself, right, it is.

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You're going to continue toprogress.
You start.
It's that.
What's this swimmer?
The guy with all the medals?
The Phelps, the Phelps.
He's swimming, and then he'sahead and then there's a swimmer
right next to him and theswimmer's just looking at him.
Right.
So Phelps is here, swimmer'sright next to him, and he's
looking at him, and then it sayswinners worry about themselves,

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losers worry about winners,absolutely.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
So that's an absolute fact, and it's weird for me
because the dissonance thatexists, because it seems like
they want to take in the folks,the anti-American folks seem to
want to worship all thesecultures besides the United
States, yet the people that havethe choice are overwhelmingly
leaving where they're from tocome to here.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
I don't know they are risking their lives.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
On rivers and through drug dealer fucking networks
and everything to come over here.
Did you hear about the Haitians, the 100,000 Haitians that
landed in an Ohio town and allthe cats and dogs are gone and
stuff, you know?

Speaker 2 (11:29):
I mean it's a fucking fact Extreme poverty.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
Well, it's not only that.
They come from a place whereanything that moves is food.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
I mean, it's not the case here and we're not that far
removed away from that beingGermany In Germany between World
War I and World War II, movedaway from that being Germany In
Germany between World War I andWorld War II.
There was not a cat, a rat or adog in the streets.
That was the extremeness of thepoverty that existed there.
So I mean the idea that it'slike isolated to these places.
Different parts of the worldmake political and economic
choices that put them in thosepositions and there's a real

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human fallout from that.
And the United States has beenthe safe place that you could go
to have a hope for somethingbetter.
And them, the folks that wantto take and piss all over that
while worshiping these otherplaces that people are looking
to get away from to get to this.
I don't really understand howthey hold that dissonance in

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their head without their headexploding.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
Well, and why don't they just go there Like I mean
what, like germany, for example?
Right, if they love the way youknow, like americans over here,
they want to see you.
It's a I get it with cuba allthe time, like it's like there
was a guy.
Uh, man, let me tell yousomething you want to really,
your head really wants to blowup.
So again, I had this, thisisraeli, um, israeli, uh, agent

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that's been on the podcast andeverything like that.
And, man, our comments just wentabsolutely insane.
I mean, if there's any othersubsector call it racial,
religious or whatever thatthinks they have it hard, beish

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for one day, one day.
The amount of hate and absoluteattack, openly attack this,
this, this religion, on, on onthe on our instagram.
It is absolutely amazing, it is, it is disgusting, it is
alarming.
So why are the jews being ableto be attacked openly like there

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was a guy, so he was just goingcrazy on it.
I'm like, well, let me click onthis guy and and see I was
fascinated by what the hell isgoing on.
I go to click on it and thisguy has a video saying fuck you
israel, fuck israel Israel.
I mean just openly, openly anti-Semitic, if that were towards
any other subsector of ourpopulation.

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It would be people in thestreets complain, but they could
happen in the universities,they could get attacked anywhere
.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I mean again, if you're anyother race, religion or anything
and you're complaining aboutbeing discriminated against or
anything, be Jewish one day Oneday.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
I think that part of this is because there's
definitely been an uptick inthat.
I think that the left haspulled back from the— there was
consistent agreement that theJewish people needed to be
recognized and that that wasintolerable behavior, right, and
that has been largely pulledback as the left has tried not
to cobble together this separategroup of people, because the

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left is is largely made up ofthese relatively disparate
groups of people right that alot of times, like if you think
about what they are actuallyabout, they don't actually hang
out together, like they're.
Nobody in that group is goingout to dinner.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Well, let's talk about the case I mean regular,
regular gay people don't wantnothing to do with the fucking
extreme lefty trans movement.
You know, dei, hire me becauseI'm trans.
This type situation.
They want nothing to do, theywant to be happy and they want
to be gay and they want to bemarried and they want to have

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their, they want to adopt kidsand they want and be what?
Be left alone.
That was the gaze of the past.
Now it's no.
I'm in your face.
I want your kids to be trans.
I want you to pick their genderafter they're born.
I mean I want.
I mean after they're born.
I mean I want.
I mean it's what's this?

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Megan fox girl, three transkids.
Megan fox has three kids, allof them born one gender and now
they're another gender, allthree of them.
I mean what the fuck like?
What is going?

Speaker 2 (15:38):
that's what extreme leftist brings you, you know I
mean, I think that this is the,the left's position is the
highest thing that you can be isyourself.
Everything is about you.
It's actually in an effort tobe very caring about everybody.
It's all become about you.

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So you're a good person.
You show everybody you're agood person by doing these
things and that makes you feelgood about you.
I don't know that any of it istruly generous or kind.
I mean, being truly generous orkind is hey, I see somebody
hurting over there.
I go over there, I take care ofthis, I help them and I don't

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have to get my name out Like no,no, guys, don't take a picture
of this.
Right, that's being a goodperson.
Like I don't have to get myname out Like no, no, guys,
don't take a picture of this.
Right, that's being a goodperson.
Like I don't need anything outof this.
None of this seems to be that.
All of this seems to be meshowing everybody.
This virtue signaling is a realthing.
You know, like you say stuffand then you look around and
make sure everybody heard you.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
Hey, did you hear me?
Yeah, yeah, Like see, aren't Ia good person.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
And so it seems that these folks that are very
sensitive to being triggered onall this stuff yet are very
comfortable now saying some veryanti-Semitic things, because
that's the cool place now to becontroversial and to like.
Because here's the thing thisgeneration doesn't have anything
to fight.
They don't have a world war.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
They don't have.
Well, it goes back to that.
Saying the strong, what is it?
Strong times.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
Hard times make.
Make strong, men strong make,yeah, yeah, right that one right
.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
So it's you know, and , and, and why I'm concerned
about this, this, this election,it's.
It's like, uh, it's likeanalyzing the real estate market
.
Right, where are we today,where are we now?
It's a buyer's market orseller's market or anything like
that.
So I was thinking the other daylaying in bed, you know, just,
uh, just kind of thinking I'mlike we might be a lefty country

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now, like we might be in the.
So let's, let's analyze this,right.
So, hard times creates hard men, right, hard men create easy
times.
Good times, yeah, good times.
Good times creates weak men.
Yep, that's where we are rightnow.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
Oh, sure, right this is what happened to rome and
pressure.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
So we are the.
We are in the stage of good.
Uh, easy times creates weak men, correct?
That's where we are right now,so that what needs to happen in
order for us to now create, youknow, hard men, and the whole
situation is we need to gothrough some hard times, and the
only way to do that is if we goextreme, left, right, and we
have to have, you know, hard men, and the whole situation is we

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need to go through some hardtimes, and the only way to do
that is if we go extreme, left,right, and we have to have, you
know, these food controls andthis equity everybody, everybody
, equal, no matter, you know,equity of of, of, of equality of
income, of of of outcome, right, no matter, no matter who you
are, how hard you work, how muchtalent you have, everybody is
absolutely the same.

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So that's going to create hardtimes, which is going to create
some hard men.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
But the question is, will it go too far before it's
redeemable?
Because that's the problem.
Every great culture comes to anend at some point and typically
what happens?
Are we there?
That's what I'm trying to say,like we might be.
The question is, I mean,because we've we've toyed with
this back and forth, before wego left, we come back right.

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I mean this hard left it'sdifferent.
It's different.
I mean you can lookeconomically at some of the
decisions made.
If I was to take to take andlist some of the things that
were done during FDR'spresidency, you'd be shocked
that that could go on.
They made it illegal for you toown gold.
They confiscated everyone'sgold.
Could you imagine them comingto say that gold chain?

Speaker 1 (19:17):
With all due respect, and you are, I've told you many
times you're the smartest guy Iknow.
That doesn't hold a candle toputting tampons in men's
restrooms.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
It is a different.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
I mean that is tampon Tim, like Trump calls him, had
an initiative to put tampons inthe men's restroom so that when
men menstruate they have atampon.
I mean, have we ever been that?

Speaker 2 (19:46):
extreme.
No, it used to be that we usedto fight these battles on the
economic front.
The left and right wasseparated by economic policy.
There were certain things thatwe largely agreed on.
Those things have.
The idea of progressivism isthat something always has to be
changing, because somethingneeds to change for change's
sake, and so they're seeking.

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They're seeking for hills todie on right.
You don't have a.
There's never there's been.
Nobody under like 60 years oldwas ever drafted right, and so
these folks have never hadanything serious enough, and so
this is the war that they wantto fight.
Everybody needs somethingimportant to fight for, so this
is the thing they're going totake.
This is the hill they'rewilling to die on Right, and so

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this is the slavery of theirgeneration.
Folks see now, because inmainstream education you are
told there are oppressors andthere are the oppressed.
You're one or the other,there's nothing else.
You can either be an oppressoror you can be oppressed.
There's nothing else.
You can either be an oppressoror you can be oppressed.
So your job to be a good humanbeing is to find the oppressed

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and relieve them of the burdenof being under the heel of the
oppressors.
That is it and so folks havebought into that idea rather
than you know, the idea that wecan just have a good common
debate about the topic and makeprogress and, like you know,
let's find a good way to dealwith this.
If you don't agree, you are abad person you are.

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Your opinion doesn't matter,because by not agreeing you're a
morally evil human being andthat just takes and discounts
your opinion and unfortunately,when that happens, everybody is
at each other's throat becauseyou've just called me a name
which does not take in any waydeal with the quality of my
argument and you have said byvirtue of the name you call me,
you're a poopy head, because I'ma poopy head.

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Now that has made my wellthought through argument
completely invalid, and this iswhat passes for debate in
today's world.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
And that's where the breakdown occurs.
Well, and it's all starting,but I think you're the one who
told me or it was you or Richardthat told me that's never
really changed.
Education has always been lefty.
Yeah, education has always beenlefty, and, if anything, we've
gotten a little bit better onthat, right?
No, no, no, it's gone the otherway, it has gone the other way,
the book.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
I'm trying to think of the book.
It was written by not writtenby a conservative at all.
I believe the book was calledthe Coddling of the American
Mind, and so it was written bysomebody who was, admittedly,
quite far left.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
And he was actually on Rogan.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
And somebody that was centrist, and they said that
the ratio used to be prettyconsistently about four to one.
There'd be four liberals toevery one conservative in
academia and that was, you know,historically, the ratio you'd
expect for the longest time inthis country.
Now that ratio is closer to 27to one and so, like if you're a

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conservative I know a fewconservatives in academia they
know they just don't open theirmouth.
If they say anything, if theytry to voice their opinion,
they're immediately shut downand potentially risk losing
their employment.
And so, as much as they talkabout how much they want
diversity of ideas and it's anacademic that said that to me if

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you really want diversity, tellme how many conservatives are
in your humanities department.
And the answer is there aren'tany.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
Yeah, let me ask you a question, because you
mentioned books right?
So you've read what thousands,yeah, is the other.
Put a number on it.
Right around 3,500, I would say3,500 books right, you had to
give two books, just two, likethere was.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
You know who's the person I'm talking to Kid Kid.
Basic Economics by ThomasSowell for sure Best book that
I've ever read on understandingjust how an economy works, One
of the best guys for justcutting through the bullshit,
looking at bad statistics andtelling you what's wrong with
them, what's missing, that makesa bad statistic.
One of my favorite quotes isMark Twain, who said there's
three kinds of lies lies, damnedlies and statistics.

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Whenever you get a statistic,you always got to ask what's
missing?
What are they leaving out?
So that would be a great one.
And then and I mean I just saidit, but you know, obviously,
without going into some sort ofreligious text, I would say I
would say the coddling of theAmerican mind is probably a
pretty good read.
You know, understand howimportant it is for your ideas

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to be honed in the fire.
I love to talk to somebody whothinks differently than me but
has thick enough skin that theycan handle the fact that I'm
going to push back against theirideas in the best way I know
possible, and I want them to dothe same.
And I want to be able to walkaway, friends, when we're done,
because if I don't have the bestidea in my head, please show me
where I'm wrong, but I'm alsogoing to take and push you as

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well, because that's what peoplethat want to be part of a good
society should do they shouldhelp each other test their ideas
in the fire of debate.
Were you homeschooled?

Speaker 1 (24:31):
I was from your whole life, no, from fifth grade on
Fifth grade, on what happened infifth grade, that your dad that
was a very bright guy Even backthen right, he didn't like some
of the slang I was coming homewith and he was Like you came
back saying you know what I'msaying, or something like that,
or what.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Fana or something like that.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
And he just didn't want to hear it.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
That is the funniest fucking reason for that and he
knew that he used to tell me allthe time.
One of his famous lines is fromthe people to the people.
In three generations thegrandfather comes over, he works
his fingers to the bone, youknow, 18 hour days and he makes
something.
The kid comes along.
The kid sees it from when he'syoung but you know he wants to
make sure his kids doesn't haveto go through what he does, so

(25:13):
his kids don't.
Was there one incident that hesaid no, this is it.
I don't know really what it was.
I just know that he believed inhard work.
I knew that he was going to.
You know, he had builtsomething.
He was going to leave it to meand he wanted to make sure that
I didn't blow it.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
Let me tell you something, man I'm homeschooling
both of my kids and when I sayhomeschooling, listen, I want to
make sure, like, if any of myfriends that are here graduated
with a 1.5 GPA, I am not capableof homeschooling anybody.
Sure, right, like at all in myfarm, you know, and like I'm
with a pencil and a board andshit.
No, it's a system, it's ahomeschool system and and you

(25:46):
know there's tutors and there's,you know, that type of stuff,
and you know we even havelanguage and and and uh, as you
know, kind of like you and Ihave been talking about, you
know kind of creating acurriculum for for these kids.
You know a little bit morebusiness oriented, but, um, but
let me tell you something, man,it is really hard to explain to
somebody the homeschooling thing.
It is just like they, oh, you'rehomeschooling, oh, really why?

(26:08):
If I don't want to talk aboutit, I say no, it's because of
sports, which which is reallythe reason why, why it started.
But I'm now I'm seeing so manybenefits from it.
Sure, it started because mykids train there's too much
training in order for them tospend it not in school, because
they, if anybody understandshomeschool, they do more
schooling actual schooling Inless time, in way less time.

(26:31):
Yep, it's just efficiency oflearning, maximal efficiency,
maximum efficiency.
And what usually happens withthese homeschool kids is that we
have a kid that's just got intoninth grade.
Right now he's already takingcollege credits.
Yep, like, the fucking problemwith him is that he's gonna
almost finish college by thetime he finishes high school.
Right, that's what the peopledon't understand.
So it's not school, it's by farsuperior schooling.

(26:52):
The curriculum is almostidentical, or or bet or better.
Yeah, right it, it takes awayall the fluff, but it's hard for
people to understand thehomeschooling part.
I mean, can you bring somelight on your benefits of
homeschooling?
You're laughing, so I'mwondering.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
I'm tossing this out because anybody that thinks that
we do schooling well needs togo back and read the letter of
John Quincy Adams to his father,john Adams.
John Adams is the secondpresident of the United States.
John Quincy Adams, at like nineor 10 years old, is writing his
father and begging hisforgiveness for his indolence
for letting his mind wander ashe's translating Tacitus from

(27:32):
Latin.
Jesus, as a little kid, youknow, father, I'm mortified that
I find my mind wandering and Iknow that I need to take and get
my.
You know like I mean even thequality of the letter, like our
kids, no freaking shot.
This experiment with publicschooling, which is actually a
relatively modern development.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
Right.
So that's why it's been afailure.
That's what it was explained tome the other day, like I saw
somebody explaining it this wayand I was like oh, my God,
you're right.
They're like, oh, because thisexperiment about homeschooling?
No, no, no, you're right.
They're like, oh, because it'sexperimented by homeschooling.
No, no, no, no, no.
The public school system, theprivate school system, is the
experiment.
We've been homeschooling tillwhat?
The thirties, the twenties.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
Believe it or not.
Largely the labor unions wantedto get the child.
The labor unions wereresponsible for getting children
out of the workplace becausethey wanted to take and thin the
working pool.
Now I'm not sitting here makinga case for child labor,
although I worked as a kid andI'm very grateful.
It was one of the bestexperiences From the time I was
nine years old.
All the way through high schoolI went to work every day and
drew a paycheck down 6 am to 1pm.
I went to work.

(28:34):
I had responsibilities.
I didn't do it.
I got in trouble.
It was a real and I went toschool thereafter.
But the labor unions wanted totake a thing out of the
workforce, so they created thetruancy system and you know the
schooling system.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
So it wasn't the school system that created the
school system.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
No, I mean it was.
You know.
We need our kids to be educated.
Look, there's lots of ways tosell this.
We need our kids to be bettereducated, an educated workforce,
and look, I'm a big fan ofeducation, but it's learning the
stuff that actually has value.
And I think that, andespecially considering I told
you I went back to college older, they were much more concerned

(29:15):
with changing the way that Ivoted than they were teaching me
anything in particular.
They were more concerned withme getting their social values.
It seemed like I mean everyspare second the teachers had,
they were making a social case.
So for me, being homeschooledmeant that I had more time

(29:37):
available.
I would typically finish mylessons within an hour and a
half or two hours a day BecauseI would go in there.
I had a professional curriculum.
It was all spelled out for me.
I had a checklist of what I hadto do and if I got through that
list.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
I was done.
And, by the way, if you want tohaul ass and you want to get
all your work done for the yearin six months or in four, I mean
, you could do it as fast as you, absolutely Absolutely.
You could be super efficientand then give you time to do
other stuff, you know, andextracurricular activities and
the whole situation.
So the fact that what peopledon't realize is how much and
again, I'm just learning thisnow because now I'm really
diving the first couple of yearsthat my kids were homeschooled

(30:10):
it was like all right, we'll putthem on this fucking thing and
just let them do it.
But now I'm like reallyinvolved in it because I'm kind
of helping create the system perse, sure, and it's like you
realize how to be able to keep a, the only reason let's put it
this way the reason why theykeep a kid in school for eight
hours.
It's more for the parents thanit is for the kids.

(30:31):
Yeah, there's not eight hoursof work there, there's not,
there's three hours, two hoursof actual.
The rest is fluff.
So the kids in school doingshit, plus the hour of lunch and
the recess and the PE and thethis and the that and the
in-between periods and all thatkind of stuff.
It's fluff.
It's a lot of fluff.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
And plus, they don't actually learn the material,
which is crazy.
I mean, I had a friend that Iwas with in Germany.
His son did a year here and hewas blown away that the teachers
would give kids study guidesthat have the actual answers to
the test.
Like he was, like all I have todo is study that and everything

(31:10):
else I did was a waste of time.
Over there they say read thesefive chapters and you better
know it, because their questionsare gonna come out of there and
they're not gonna give you anyguide.
They actually expect you toknow the stuff.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
Well, and homework too.
I mean homework.
I've never understood homework,because if you're spending, if
you're in middle school and youget dropped off at nine or eight
and then get picked up at fourand then you have two hours of
homework.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Yeah, I mean, if this was a regular job, I'd be
earning a time and a half forthat.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
You know what I mean.
Well, why is the school notefficient enough that you can
get everything done?
Why are you not able to geteverything done?
So another part of thehomeschooling is dude, you get
your work done during the day,right.
And now, again, I'm beinghonest, I'm doing it for sports
stuff, right.
So now they have more time totrain and everything like that.
But either way, you want yourkid to have even more of a life
and the whole situation.

(31:59):
So now there's a social aspectof it.
I know you You're not fuckingweird, do you feel you're weird?
In some cases, I guess, oh,totally, it's not because of the
homeschooling.
So do you think that itaffected you socially at all, or
no?

Speaker 2 (32:11):
I would say some in my early years probably, and
that's only because we did itvery isolated, so like it
wouldn't be a situation for yourkids because they have the
sports they're into and stufflike that.
My father very much wanted totake and pull me out of culture.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
Oh, purposely pull you out of culture.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
Purposely pull me out of culture.
He genuinely thought it wasgoing the wrong way.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
That's in New York?
No, that was here.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
That was here, okay, and so he just he wanted me to
have.
And, one of the cool things, myfather was older when I was
born and so he didn't have thehow old was he?
My father was 50 when I wasborn, okay, and he was almost 60
when my sister was born.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
Okay, wow, and so, yeah, he kept it real for a long
time.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
For a long time and so he didn't have the
perspective of a new dad.
He had seen a lot of life.
I mean I always say, like themost interesting, the Secchies
guy, the most interesting man inthe world, he's got nothing on
my father.
My father could tell stories, Imean for days and stuff.
He wouldn't even tell the story.
Some of them were so crazy Likehe didn't want me hearing that.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
He did that.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
He hired a teacher from the school that I used to
go to to come, and that was thejob Successful guy said you know
what?

Speaker 1 (33:26):
I want my kid to actually learn stuff.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
I'm going to put a teacher there and then you have
time to do other stuff.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
And so he and I would watch old movies together, I
mean like black and white movies.
I grew up watching black andwhite movies.
I saw how culture was a longtime ago and where we were.
So it's the same thing evenwhen I talk about realtors and
showing a customer, before youget the home inspection, show
them what a home inspectionlooks like, why Now they have
context.
I now had context that what Isee on TV is not how it always

(33:54):
was, and so it gave me a mindsetto look at culture and say,
well, these things, man, theseare way better than what they
used to do, but these otherthings they make no sense.
We should be doing the way wedid.
It before made a lot more sense, you know, and so I think it
just helped me not to just takeeverything for granted the way
that it is, and so that was kindof the big gift that I felt my

(34:14):
father gave me, plus a lot ofhis time, yeah, and and you know
, and even back then therewasn't I mean, he'd be rolling
over in his grave right now withthe whole DEI movement.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
But let me tell you something.
I have some good news hereCadillac Companies that are
dropping out of this whole DEIbullshit, All right.
And man, let me tell yousomething If there's one of
these social movements that justabsolutely drive me insane,
it's the DEI stuff.
Is the microphone picking upthat Ferrari?
That's because you're not aracist, or?

Speaker 2 (34:42):
a sexist.
If you're a racist or a sexist,it would bother you, but you're
not a racist or a sexist.
So therefore, people beingdiscriminated based upon their
gender or skin color, thatshould bother you.
That's exactly what we foughtfor years to not happen.
Martin Luther King said thecontent of people's character.
This is going the opposite way.

(35:03):
It is saying let's take andchoose people based upon not
what they're about, but whatthey look like about things
about them that they can'tchange.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
Right, I saw this guy that Instagram that I always
send that guy that just he'seating and he's saying this
smart-ass comment.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
You know what I mean?
Just like real short one-linersand that kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
Yeah he's like if, if you could hire a woman for less
than a man and she does exactlythe same thing, why not just
hire all women?
Exactly right, you know what Imean.
Like, just why are companiesjust not one?
I mean you could same personget them for less?
Because it's just not true.
And unfortunately, that's likeI've never heard it explained

(35:46):
that way.
I'm like oh yeah, why don't I?

Speaker 2 (35:49):
well, I'm going to go even further.
All right, the company thatdoesn't hire the better
qualified woman will not havethe best people working for them
and will lose right as abusiness.
I only want to hire the best,most affordable people that I
can.
If I don't, my company will notbe as good as it can be and my

(36:10):
returns, my profits, will hurt.
We are financially incentivizedto put the best people that we
can.
If folks are sitting heresaying, well, you know, people
only hire people that look likethem, well, those companies that
make that choice are not goingto have the best people.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
Yeah, and it's you know, as an entrepreneur, as a
person who's been hiring peoplefor 25 years, and I'm not listen
, I'm not here to say I'm likethe best guy in the world or
anything but far from it, butwhen I'm hiring somebody, I like
what, what race, or or, or, or,or gender, or, or whatever,

(36:46):
like I mean they come in andthey and they're like well, I'm,
you know, they show they'rereally good.
I really don't care what, ofcourse.
I mean I've been, I've beenjoking around it.
For the last I've hired acouple gay guys now and I'm
thinking, going all gay, youknow what I'm saying.
Like, I mean these guys arefucking awesome.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
They had their shit straight straight.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
I mean they really do .
I mean, you know, like, at theend of the day, like you know,
it's dude.
I'm interviewing you, I'masking you a series of questions
.
I get a feel, because I've beendoing it a really long time
who's going to really, you know,want?
Who's going to really, you know, do the best at the position

(37:22):
that I'm hiring them for.
I really don't give a shitabout anything else.
I'm worried about my company.
You know what I'm saying.
Like, I'm worried about mycompany, like so.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
I just want the best person that I can put in there.
Who's going to take the mostbrain damage off, like I want as
little blowback for me If I'mbringing you in, please do your
thing well so I don't have tohear about what you're not doing
right, and I just wantcompetency.
I do a lot of hiring for mycompany as well and you know to
fly in the face of this.
You know people hire peoplethat look like them.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
I don't have anybody that works for me that's
checking my boxes, yeah, look.
And if I could get Ariel to gogay, right, I mean, he's black
and gay, I mean he's black andgay, I mean I could cover, I
could cover.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
It becomes unfireable at that point there you go?

Speaker 1 (38:10):
Job security.
So Ford, harley-davidson, homeDepot, lowe's, john Deere,
homegoods, lyft, doordash, zoom,that's just some of the
companies that we kind ofresearched that have let go of
the whole DEI thing Becauseagain and I know I've had a
couple of these Instagram clipson the whole DEI thing so just

(38:35):
to make sure diversity, equityand inclusion, that's what this
whole DEI thing I am now incharge of hiring.
So when they hire these deiexperts, they are hiring
somebody that their job is to,not literally not hire the best,
it's to fill in.
I need four blacks, five gays,three women, because I, I'm not,

(39:00):
I don't have enough of a ratio.
I'm going to hire themirrelevant of their preparation,
right?
Am I exaggerating?

Speaker 2 (39:08):
that it's some of that.
For sure, it's definitelypartially affirmative action by
a little bit of a different nameas well.
But there's also this generalidea that a person's differences
make their opinion morevaluable, because having a
variety of opinions in the roommatters, and so that is the

(39:33):
leverage point that they make totake and say this has value to
it.
And, frankly, I think thatsomebody's skin color or gender
is far less important than thethings that they've chosen to
study and learn along the way.
That's what's going to maketheir opinion more valuable and
that whole thing about peoplebuy from the.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
No, nobody knows who's in the desk, who's in the
accounting desk of HarleyDavidson.
I agree with you.
You know what I'm saying All ofa sudden, of Harley Davidson.
You know what I'm saying, like,all of a sudden.
If Harley Davidson startedhiring all Cubans, right, like?
I mean, you go in there,everybody had capri, white,
capri pants on and thefunny-looking shit that they
wear now and the funny haircutsand everything like that, that
wouldn't make any difference tome whatsoever.

(40:16):
Why would I buy a HarleyDavidson, depending on who works
in the accounting department?
Absolutely Like.
It makes literally a systematicshitting on our country and the
processes and the companiesthat I mean.
We are small businesses, right,the economy, there's nothing
more.
And again, this is with aquestion mark, because I know

(40:39):
you're going to have a historyof small businesses in our
country.
So is there anything moreimportant to our economy than
small businesses?

Speaker 2 (40:47):
No, because small businesses become the big
businesses.
This is how it works.
It's the small ideas that turninto the big ideas.
It's the constant willing oftrying to find the next best
thing.
This is what makes it sobeautiful, brother right?
The reason why this countryworks.
Even though it's so easy topoint to greed, people are

(41:08):
always doing something to getahead.
But the thing that's requiredfor me to get ahead is to figure
out what you need and how I canget it for you or to you in a
way better or cheaper than youcan get it someplace else.
And then you, by your freechoice making, with a myriad of
choices, making the choice topick my product because I've
done the work considering you.
The reason why capitalism hasworked so well is it forces us

(41:31):
to consider the needs ofsomebody else first.
Now there's places where thatbreaks down.
You could get into the case ofhigh-end Wall Street, where
people just don't understandwhat goes on, but understand
those guys are managing thefunds for grandma's pension too,
and we want to make suregrandma doesn't have to eat cat
food.
So I think that the fact thatthey've they get away with it in

(41:54):
Germany, because they get eachother at each other's throats
because if you're successfulit's at my expense.
That is a very, very limitedaspect.
It is a scarcity mindset thatmakes it not a very healthy
environment.
The reason why immigrants do sowell in this country is they
come here with the prosperitymindset there's a lot of pie to

(42:14):
be had.
Let me go get my slice ofAmerica.
And they do, because theyexpect it and they're looking
for it.
The American citizens that areout there complaining and
whining don't get their slice ofthe pie because they believe
all the pie has been taken bysomebody else and there's none
left for them.
That idea, that mindset, is whyour young people in this

(42:37):
country do not appreciate whatthey have, because they have
been sold a bill of goods thatthe immigrants know isn't true
and come here and prove it.
The very success of theimmigrants we see in this
country flies in the face ofthis rigged field that is set
against everybody.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
Yeah, and listen, I think the further you are away
from that immigrant mentality,you know, and that I think the
further you are away from thatimmigrant mentality, the more
prone you are to falling intothat.
Because let me tell yousomething I have a daughter, I
have a son and I speak to themboth equally.
I don't sugarcoat my shit formy daughter or anything.
I mean, you know me, you knowme, I'm not in danger of that.
No, no, the other way, perhaps,that way, no for sure.

(43:27):
And man, let me tell yousomething there's one thing that
I, if I see them being likespoiled, right, I go look and
there's two things in this houseyou're not going to be a
fucking pussy, yeah, right.
And spoiled, yeah, right.
And they're kind of connected,right, yeah, totally.
You, you better appreciate whatyou have and understand that
you are.
You know that you are how luckyyou are to be in the
circumstances you are.
We're going to try to help andwe're going to try to the whole,
the whole situation, right,because again, there's there's
one thing is helping and theother thing is well, everybody

(43:50):
should be equal, right?
Yeah, you know, hey, no, let's,let's get rid of the fancy
house and the and the nice stuffand everything, and let's go
live, let's go live in the hoodjust because we want to be.
No, it's not.
No, let's help people, andthat's what.
That's the part that I don'tunderstand.
How do we help people come?
Again, you and I hadconversations just the other day
right about how do we help.

(44:10):
You know, kids learn and we'rewe're breaking our heads trying
to create some curriculum that'sgoing to help people.
Come up, give me the hand, letme drag you up.
It's not, it's not.
Oh no, I'm gonna put myselfdown to your level.
Yeah, and we're all.
No, let's help come.
This is the light, this is theway.

(44:32):
So that's.
I think that's the differenceright now between the republican
party and the democratic party.
Right?
One thing is like hey, man,let's, let's go, let's get
better, let's learn more, let'swork harder.
The other one is like no, no,no, no, no, no, no, you're the
bad guy, you're the rich guy,let's bring you down over here.

(44:54):
Everybody I don't even know ifit was.
We put it on our Instagram.
We got all kinds of crazycomments.
That guy that says that foodrationing at a Kamala Harris
convention.
It is so crazy that it has tobe fake, but I don't know if
it's fake.
I mean it looks real to me,right?
Food rationing, these foodprice controls and food

(45:18):
rationing would be good becauseit creates equity, right and
equality and the whole situationit's.
We need to starve people sothat everybody's, everybody's,
the same.
That is the mentality thatwe're like, you know, like like
elon musk calls it the woke mindmentality, right?
I mean, it's just the woke mindof virus, the woke.

(45:41):
So look.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
The only way that you can think that poorly is to
have been exposed to academiafor the first 20 plus years of
your life.
The only people that can thinklike that are academics, because
they're not really forced tolive in the real world like the
rest of us.
They have a fairly risk-aversejob that gives them relatively

(46:05):
guaranteed.
They're not going to sit hereand talk about how hard they
have in their fight for whateveryou know, if you stay in the
rails, you take and take thetests, you pass the tests.
It's not a high-risk businessto be in.
And look, my brother's anacademic.
I have respect for what they do, for those that go out there

(46:25):
and teach folks how to think.
They teach them the tools.
They don't tell them what tothink, but how to think.
But the idea that somehowpeople are made better by just
giving them things has beendisproved through the history of
the world time and time again,even Martin Luther.
So not Martin Luther King,martin Luther, all right.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
He said the biggest, the person Martin Luther King
was named after.
Correct that guy Right.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
This guy, martin Luther, said one of the hardest
things they had to do was todistinguish between the
deserving and undeserving, poorRight.
So who needed what help and howto give it to them in a way
that helped them to helpthemselves.
So we want to take, and one ofthe guys that tried to figure
this out was Andrew Carnegie.
Andrew Carnegie gave awayalmost his entire fortune, but

(47:14):
to largely two things Churchorgans, and the reason why is
because back in the day that wasthe only place where people
could hear music, right, and hethought music was important for
the development of the humansoul.
I mean, if you'd never heard,there was no radio or whatever.
This was, the music is a goodthing.
And libraries, he said even anyof his plants.
Wherever he had there wasalways a library.

(47:35):
Because if anybody that workedfor him wanted to take and make
away from themselves, he wantedto give them a path to go get
everything they needed.
And so I think that mindset andwhat he said was actually
there's nothing.
The only thing worse than dyingwith all your money is giving
your money away the wrong wayRight Giving it just giving it
to people Poison right, it couldturn into poison literally.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
You're doing that to it actually harms you.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
You're like you're doing it to make you feel good,
but it harms the person you'rehelping.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
Some of the most fucked up people I've met in my
life have been extremely rich.
Oh, totally Wealthy People thatgrew up extremely wealthy, that
is just.
I would even consider it worsethan growing up poor, and I know
it sounds crazy and I know I'mgonna get a bunch of shit for it
.
I'm telling you because theygrow up with no ambition, right,

(48:28):
there's nothing, and that's whyyou know I'm, I'm this, I'm a
guy who smoked pot a lot.
Every once in a while I'llsmoke a joint here and there,
right, um the nothing.
So I'm, you know, and again, Ihave a lot of friends that are
in the marijuana industry andeverything.
So, sure, I I I feel weird,kind of like saying, oh, I would

(48:49):
vote against it, you know, but,um, I'm not a fan, I'm not a
fan of of kids having access tomarijuana man yeah, until your
brain's developing until you're25 years old.
Is that what you're saying?
Yeah, your brain's developing,developing until you're 25 years
old, man, yeah, your brain'sdeveloping until you're 25 years
old.
Yeah, your brain's developinguntil you're 25 years old.
It affects the development ofthe brain and what marijuana
does in reality.

(49:09):
That makes it very dangerous.
I mean, look, cocaine, what areyou going to have?
Go have a big party.
You're going to get all hypedup.
The next day you're back.
Marijuana is a daily you know,like that's usually what it
comes into.
Oh, I'm smoking weed every day.
I'm smoking weed every day.

(49:30):
It makes you reclusive.
If you were an extrovert, itmakes you an introvert, right,
it just makes you lazy and itliterally stood fat like fact.
It takes away your ambition.
That's that's the thing that.
That eats my soul.
It takes away your ambition.
If you notice, you had fivepeople, ten people, whatever.
There's three potheads in there.
Potheads are going to stay here.
Yeah, right, and then you'regonna be like oh, but I know
this guy because I know a coupleof very, um, productive

(49:51):
potheads.
Sure, but they're like oh, I'mproductive.
Well, imagine where you wouldhave been, yeah, if you weren't
a fucking pothead, right?
If you weren't smoking weedevery day and this wasn't taken
away.
And you're taking a drug that'sconstantly chipping away at
your ambition, which is probablythe biggest talent you have,
the most important thing youhave, because look how

(50:12):
successful you are with it.
Imagine if we took that away.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
Yeah, I mean I think I know for me, like I work
really, really hard, I mean Ithink you know me, An 11-hour
day is pretty muchrun-of-the-mill for me.
If I'm on the road, sometimesit's 15, 16 hours to get from
one place to the other, whatever.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
Well, today's a good example.
You've got three more meetingsafter this, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
And tomorrow I've got all day and then I've got to
jump on a plane at 7.42.
I get where I'm going atmidnight.
I'll be in my hotel by 1am andI got to go to go at 8am ready
to go on stage.
Yeah, now the story of my life.
But, um, the the differencebetween being successful and
unsuccessful is often just thatchoice to stay up and and answer
one more email and to take onthat one more project after work

(50:58):
.
Cause man, that couch, all thesiren song of that couch man,
and just take it and turn it onNetflix and and just relaxing I
mean letting my mind.
Netflix is awesome, except onceagain it's you know that that
that drug, it's one more drugRight.
And so I mean I can't tell you.
This weekend I totally sat onthe couch and just net, watched
a lot of Netflix and and relaxCause I've been burning the

(51:19):
candle at both ends, but Ireally am very careful at
metering that out.
If I had a little bit less inthe tank, man, oh my.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
God, can I ever convince you to drink?
That would be awesome.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
Wine kind of, at this point in time, wine Jesus
Christ drink.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
I'm aware totally aware that wouldn't even
convince you.
I mean, it's all over the Bibleand stuff.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
One even convince you .
I mean, it's all over the Bibleand stuff.
One glass of wine here's thething.
What do you think will happen?
A couple of things.
One, I'm afraid I'd like it,you'll definitely like it.
Wine Do I really need the extrastuff in my life?
And so you know, for me it's, Ithink, a person like you, just
hear me out for a second.
I'm willing to take the time todebate always.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
It'll.
It's funny because they sayalcohol is the only drug that
you can openly try to convincesomebody to do, and it looks
like a complete piece of shit.
If I were you I'd be like thisis crack bro.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
Let's talk about crack for a second.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
Like dude, just try it, you're going to feel so good
.
You know crack, bro.
Let's talk about crack for asecond.
Like dude, just try it, you'regonna feel so good.
You know cocaine, whatever, etc.
But, um, so, friday night, dude, you've busted your ass the
whole time, right, or even?
I mean I'm gonna do it better.
You're dude, you've justfinished.
You did three days straightteaching, you're done.
You're at the delta lounge,which I know you love, all right

(52:39):
, oh, you sit there, get alittle wine, sit down, the
relaxation goes, I don't know,tenfold.
I would say, you know.
And again, listen, I'm notexpecting to do the whiskey, I'm
not expecting to do it, butwine.
Let me tell you why.
I think you'll like it.
Because you can actually studyit right and you could go.
Imagine you you'll be a fuckingsomali in a year.

(53:03):
Like, like.
That's why I think that you,the regions, and then you could
add to the travels, and then,all of a sudden, I'm going to
this area where this wine camefrom, and and I would think that
that would be something thatyou could just for for the rest
of your life, just become afucking.
I could see you going, you know, and I could just see you doing

(53:27):
all of that and it'll just,it'll relax.
Supposedly there was a study Idon't know if you heard this a
resident expert, a Jewish expert, over there.
So I heard that the HasidicJews, they don't last too
fucking long.
They die pretty early becausethey don't drink, because

(53:48):
there's never a.
So, dude, no matter how hard myweek is, no matter how hard my
week is, I know that Friday,dude, I'm going to have a drink
and nothing really matters.
I mean, for that there's anexhale, yeah, yeah, of of you
know what, dude a time blocked,unwind it is so if you add the

(54:08):
let me turn this off ofrelaxation now, um, um, now it
it.
it turns my weekend into allright, dude, you know what?
I don't really give a shitanymore, it's the weekend.
I'm gonna forget abouteverything.
You add all those hours ofeither stressed or not stressed,
right Now, like straight up.
Alcohol is kind of bad for you,though, right, like whiskey and
all that stuff that kind offucks you.

(54:29):
Beer is actually the worst foryour liver I don't know if you
knew that because it makes yourliver work the hardest to digest
it right, to process it.
Yeah, yeah so.
But wine, supposedly, is goodfor the heart, good for this,
good for that, the wholesituation, so yeah, so if you
had all those hours that youwould have been stressed, versus
now you're not stressed, right,like it just makes you live

(54:51):
longer you know what I mean, anda lot of these wine regions and
everything like that, people dolive longer.
Like Europe, you know, and as awhole, there's a lot of places
that… I buy that.
Like Europe, you know, and as awhole, there's a lot of places
that.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
I buy that.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
Right, I buy that Want to have a drink.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
So I mean I think that there's a couple.
Will you ever?
You don't think you'll everhave a drink, maybe at some
point, I don't know.
I mean it's, I pride myself onit and it's a weird thing, right
?
I've always told you I believein standards.
I figure out what I want theend of my life to look like,
like what I want them to be ableto say about the guy they're
putting in the box, and a lot ofthe choices that I make are

(55:25):
actually based upon that, andone of the big ones is it's one
of the reasons why I alwaysanswer my phone is I want to be
the.
If there's one person in theworld you know that will answer
their phone call.
You're getting ready to betaken prisoner in Mexico and you
got one phone call Mexico andyou got one phone call.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
I want to be the person.
I'm going to be there for you,right.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
I like it that my people can depend upon me like
that, I like being that guy, andso if I was ever not available
because of something that I didfor myself like that, it would
fly in the face of who I try.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
Right.
So let me tell you a solutionto that.
I tell my realtors if you callme around five o'clock on a
Friday, I'm going to answer, butI'm going to be probably going
to be drunk.
I'm not going to be drunk, andI really do say that.
Oh, I know you.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
I know you want to fucking answer, you know?

Speaker 1 (56:15):
So yeah, man, I mean it's.
You know why I'm worried aboutthe election, right?
So we have the education systemagainst us, right?
We have the youth beingliterally indoctrinated into one

(56:37):
side.
Okay, we have the entireeducational system against us.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
Fair to say, it seems like it yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
Until Musk put his balls on the line and bought X?
Right, we had the entire socialmedia platform against us,
right, that's a lot to goagainst.
That's a lot, right, that's alot to go against, sure you're?
That's a lot.
You're getting the youth andthen you're getting the social
media.
Which zuckerberg did you see?
Did you read his letter?

(57:08):
He absolutely just admitted Ifelt the pressure.
I'm basically said I felt thepressure they definitely
pressured me into, intocensoring stuff.
I'm never gonna do it again.
Right, that's basically what Igot to it and the money I
donated.
I shouldn't have done that.
Right, that's basically what Igot to it and the money I
donated.
I shouldn't have done that.
Right, that's basically the the, the gist of the letter.
So you got to understand.

(57:30):
So, so, um, you know, I I got alot of people, I have a lot of
friends that you know that fellinto the whole social media push
, right, that that he was, thathe was discussing, and I'm like
man, you're not upset that?
You just got fucking played bya political party.
I mean absolutely fuckingplayed in one direction.

(57:52):
Like you're not upset at all atthat.
I mean it's pretty crazy thatwe could have Facebook to a lot
of people is everything right.
I mean, it's the way theycommunicate, it's where they get
their news, it's what theirreality is, is where they learn
stuff from.
It's the whole situation.
So, when you have a hugeplatform, worldwide platform

(58:13):
like that, censoring information, I mean it's scary stuff.
So that's what we're dealingwith, right, we're dealing with
we can't even get Trumpprotected correctly, because we
have to have to have a five-footlesbian protecting him.
We just absolutely have to,because, hey, man, that's not

(58:35):
fair, right?
Are we running out of time?
Yeah, we just have toabsolutely have a five-foot
lesbian protecting them, becauseif not, we're hurting
somebody's feelings, right?
So we can't even get that donenow.
Now, you know and I mentionedit the other day, but I didn't

(58:57):
talk to you about it so this guy, tim Kennedy, right?
Special forces guy, right?
I mean, he operates a companynow where it trains police
officers trains.
By the way, another thing thatI'm going to mention, kamala
Harris wants to eliminate policeofficers from schools.

(59:19):
Did you see that, bart, right?
So now, all of a sudden, ourkids, where our kids are being
indoctrinated?
Now they don't even want toprotect them anymore.
What is going on with that?
Like, why would you?
And when I put that online,people are like, well, we
shouldn't even need policeofficers, we have a bigger issue

(59:39):
and we shouldn't need policeofficers at schools.
100% right, we shouldn't, butwe do.
We're here now, right, andthere's an enormous mental
health situation in our country.
Absolutely, that's never goingto be fixed until you know, big
pharma gets fixed.
Right, it is more, um, moreprofitable, makes more money,

(01:00:04):
makes more sense monetarily.
To keep somebody crazy, yeah,right, then to give them
treatment.
Just give them pills.
Don't give them the treatmentgive them pills and keep some
going, right, so, but again,back to that.
We're, we're we're gonna getthese kids that are out there
helpless and we're're going toremove this last shooting that
just happened right now, right,well, who's the one?

(01:00:25):
It was the school securityguard, right?
What do you guys call itResource officer?
I've never heard that before.
The resource officer.
They don't call it a cop.
He's a cop.
Yeah, right, that's what I'msaying.
But they call it a resourceofficer.
Yeah, but they call it aresource officer.
Is that a Georgia thing or isthat a?
Maybe it's a Georgia thing?
He has his own office.
You've heard that before.
A resource officer.
Yeah, how come?
I never heard that before?
Resource officer.

(01:00:46):
And he has an office there andeverything, okay.
So he's the one who actuallykilled the guy, right?
So you know how are we going toremove that.
Imagine if that resourceofficer wasn't.
I mean, it could have been 20,30, 40, 50, who knows how many
bullets did he have?
That's how many would have died.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
I think that there's an interesting phenomenon that's
going on right.
I mean, I'm of the opinionlargely Maybe I share some
libertarian bent.
For sure I love this country, Ilove how it is, and I just pick
the one that's going to screwit up least in the next election
cycle.
I am very grateful for theinefficiency of government, its

(01:01:30):
inability to change thingsrapidly and, unfortunately, the
seizing of power that's gone onby especially the executive
branch.
Over time and every party hasdone more and more of this has
made the government more able tothrough rules and things like
that to make major changes.
That typically, I think if thefounder saw what was going on,

(01:01:51):
they would be absolutelymortified that this stuff is not
having to go through Congressand and have a vote of.
You know that bureaucrats arepassing these rules.
Um, so everything.
Establishment is counter towhat the progressives want to do
.
So if it exists, it's bad.

(01:02:12):
Police officers are part of theestablishment, so their
presence is bad, it is harmful.
Right, school is this placethat they want to take kids and
show them this like utopia ofhow it could be if we could just
all live in this.
You know, quasi-socialistexperiment that it seems.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
Yeah it's all about not hurting people's feelings.
So a police officer or aresource officer, whatever you
call it nowadays, hurts people'sfeelings and it might make them
hurts people's feelings and itmight make them.
So I went to a school, um, highlevel um school, and like a,
it's a, it's a boarding school,one of the best schools in the
country.
Am I going to name the name?

(01:02:55):
But?
Um, to get a tour of the school.
Um, and they had when I knowthey have it here in florida too
um, I'll give another story onthat um, they had a safe room
where a kid can, I guess, go inthere and be gay and cry and not
get their feelings hurt, right,it's literally called a safe

(01:03:18):
room, right, and that's wherethe kid again gets, you know,
has his little feelings hurt orwhatever.
Could go in there and cry,right.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
So I heard a story and I think you're going to like
this.
This guy's one of the mostsuccessful insurance guys,
wealth planner guys, and he wastalking to me and he was telling
me a story that when he waslike six, seven years old, there
was this kid that used to beathim up, like this nine-year-old
that would beat him up every day, and he was really good if he

(01:03:48):
could stay standing up, likethis nine-year-old that would
beat him up every day, and hewas really good if he could stay
standing up.
But if he got on the ground hewas in trouble, right.
And so his father, would youknow, tell him hey, look, this
is how you got to fight the kidand whatever else, right.
So one day he's almost home andthis kid catches up to him and
starts beating the crap out ofhim and his parents drive up,
they parked the car and he'slike, yeah, my parents are going

(01:04:08):
to come get me.
They step over the two boysfighting, go in the house and
leave them there to fightPerfect.

Speaker 1 (01:04:15):
Great parenting, I'm not kidding.
Yeah, no, I know I know this isright in your wheelhouse.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
So years later, you know now he's successful, he's
done a lot of stuff.
He goes to his mother hismother's older.
He says to her, you know whathappened.
She said look, I remember thatday to this day, your father and
I went in the bedroom and wecried our eyes out that we had
to let you go through that.
But the reality of it is it wasyour fight.
You had to win it.

(01:04:48):
You had to learn to fight orlose it or lose it and learn how
to hate losing.
And you know like, find a wayaround it.
Look, you can't build musclesby sitting on the couch, right,
you have to take and tear itdown.
You have to hone it.
You have to hone yourself infire, right.
And when we take and insulatekids from every little adversity
, they don't have any capacityto deal with what life is really
like.
Parents that do this franklyare preparing their kids for a

(01:05:11):
really, really bad future wherethey're not prepared to handle
it.
Oh, they'll figure it out whenthey're in their 40s Come on.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
Yeah, and Jordan Peterson puts it the best.
I mean I'm going to screw it up, but just to paraphrase it,
he's basically like no man.
A man should be a monster, amonster.
Now, that doesn't mean thatmonster's out there to hurt
people or anything like that,but he should have the ability.
Formidable, formidable.
He should have the ability todestroy that other man.

(01:05:42):
Right, he should have theability.
It's that old saying, right,other man, right, he should have
the ability.
It's that old saying right, I'drather be a gardener, I'd
rather be a warrior in a gardenthan a gardener in a war.
I'd rather be a warrior in agarden than a gardener.
So again, I'd rather be the guythat could, just an absolute
killer in a garden.

(01:06:02):
Okay, I don't need, I'm agardener, I'm an absolute killer
.
But I am here with my flowers,no problem, different than a
flower, a florist or a littlegardener in a war.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
Right, where he can't defend himself.
One requires internal capacity,right, and that's really the
thing that we need to do, andespecially for our boys.
Our boys have been left behindso badly because we aren't
letting them build in theinternal capacity of seeing
themselves persevere throughhard things.
I've always said similar towhat you're saying warrior poet.
That's who I want to be.
I want to be a man for allseasons.

(01:06:36):
What do you need?
Put me in coach.
You need a guy to stand back toback with you in the foxhole.
I'm a good guy.
I'll always.
If you stand next to me, you'llnever stand alone.
You want somebody to sit hereand discuss philosophy with you.
I'm happy to do that all day,and so you know.

(01:06:57):
That's what we should be tryingto help people to be, as opposed
to taking and trying to bringour boys down to be like girls,
our girls to be more like boys.
Why is it that everything maleis now criminal type behavior?
Boys being boys, having energy,being rambunctious, want to go
out and play, wanting to playwar, wanting to take and wrestle
with each other.
This is all boys being boystrying to take my bulldog.
I have a boy bulldog.
He wants to wrestle with dad.

(01:07:18):
He goes at it and that's in thewiring right, and it's funny
because you know.

Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
So again back to this Jordan Peterson wiring, right?
No, and it's funny because youknow.
So again back to this JordanPeterson thing, right?
So he says look, you know,people should be absolute
monsters, you know, but youshould have the self-control.
You're a monster that decidesnot to use it.
And it's a funny story.
So you know, anybody who knows,you know how I grow, how I
raise my kids, but my son inparticular.

(01:07:46):
He has been doing martial artssince he could walk, I mean
literally taekwondo since he wasa kid.
Boxing since, literally I havepictures of him barely out of
the stroller throwing punchesand everything like that has
what I don't know, 2,500jiu-jitsu Wrestling matches,
maybe 400 jiu-jitsu uh wrestlingmatches, maybe 400 jiu-jitsu

(01:08:07):
fights, I mean.
So a funny story is that he uh,loves sweets.
Man, this guy, I mean there'slike there's.
I mean he's a chocolate guy.
I mean, listen, man, there'sone thing you know, like chalk
you want to take, you want toget him pissed off.
You know, take away his, hischocolate, take away his sweets
or anything.
You want to punish him, that'swhat you take.
You know, take away hischocolate, take away his sweets
or anything, you want to punishhim, that's what you take away.

(01:08:27):
You don't take away phones, itdoesn't matter, no, video games,
just take away his sweets.
You got a problem with this guy.
So I pick him up.
I pick him up from school, inthere, and he's like, oh,
somebody tried to bully me today.
I'm like, really, no shit.
He's like, yeah, he tried totake my chocolate away.

(01:08:48):
And I'm like, oh, so whathappened, you know?
So the kid comes up and goes,hey, let me get your chocolate.
And he's like, no, I'll giveyou my chocolate.
And the kid the kid, uh, youknow, says it again.
He, he gave me your chocolate,you know.
And and my, my son, stands upand he goes, hey, I'm not giving
you my chocolate, man, you gota problem with that.
And the guy just looks and goesaway like I would listen, I
don't want, I don't want it tohappen again.
I gotta give you theresponsible answer, right, but

(01:09:11):
if that guy would have reachedover and gotten that fucking
chocolate I mean the it wouldnot have done.
Well, the absolute ass whooping.
But again, the self-control,yeah, of saying no, man, you
know what?
I'm gonna give you two warningshere.
You, buddy, you're not gonnatake my chocolate.
Nothing in this world,especially my chocolate, maybe

(01:09:33):
my book, my book bag, my fuckingchocolate you're never gonna
get.
I mean that, um, theself-control, the, the fact that
he is an absolute killer, right, and the fact that he could
absolutely, within 15 seconds,arm drag into a rear naked,
choke, game over within 15seconds.

(01:09:53):
That kid cannot breathe rightand he chose not to do it.
It's exactly the way.
What?

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
you want, that's exactly it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
It's what you want.
It's what we want from society.
It's what we want.
This is not about hurtingpeople.
This is not about it's none ofthat.
It's about you know, let's bethe best we can be Right, let's
and let's exercise control.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
Let's stand up for what the right thing is and the
right thing, and giving peoplethe capacity, the ability to sit
there and say, no, taking whatI have is wrong and I'm not
going to let you do that.
And if they were about to do tosomebody else, being able to
step in the middle and sayyou're not going to do that on
my watch, yeah Right.
And and having that capacity,the ability to fight injustice,
and having the courage, becausethat's what it is the courage

(01:10:37):
when the, when the chips aredown, when things get hard, that
comes and especially for guys,from having gone through stuff.
You don't get that capacityfrom, just it doesn't magically
appear, and that's why I lovesports too.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
And I know that you didn't really grow up.
It has to do with your dadbeing an older guy and the whole
situation, right.
But, bro, your mentality isjust a sports mentality.
Like you would have fuckingexcelled.

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
No, I did.

Speaker 1 (01:11:01):
Whenever I played, I always did oh you did play
sports.
Yeah, I played football.
Oh, you did.
Okay, I didn't know.
So yeah, because what I callsports is synthetic adversity.
Yeah, the brain back to thatcoddling of the human mind.
Or I forgot one book that I'veseen videos on, I've seen clips.
I'm going to fucking read it.

(01:11:21):
I haven't read it yet, but oneof the things that one of the
highlights that it says is thatthe brain needs adversity to
develop.
Absolutely, the human brain,the growing brain, needs
adversity to develop.
But here's the thing we live ina world where there's not much
adversity around, right?
So when I grew up, there wasreal adversity.

(01:11:42):
You know, like I had fights inschool because I was wearing the
same fucking clothes every day.
My shoes had holes in them.
You know, people were, peoplewould make fun of you.
You know that, that type ofstuff.
So my adversity was dude, I, Ihad to fight.
I went to a school where I Itell my son all the time like I
don't remember a time going toschool where I wasn't worried
about getting in a fight.
I don't remember a day ofschool going there and saying,

(01:12:06):
well, today I'm for sure notgoing to get in a fight.
Every day was a fucking problem, right?
So my kids are not my kids.
I tell them, like again, youknow, I speak to my kids just
the way I speak to my friends.
I go, you guys live in afucking fantasy land.
You guys live in a fantasy land.
Your life is.
I couldn't even imagine what.

(01:12:26):
But I tell you what they have ashitload of what I call
synthetic adversity.
My kids cry on a regular basis,right, I've seen my son sit
there and cry for hours becausehe lost a big tournament.
My daughter, same thing, had abad game, had a bad practice.
You know, losing, winning, allof that stuff that's synthetic

(01:12:48):
hard work.
I worked my ass off and I won.
Yeah, I worked my ass off and Ilost, right, I mean, I worked
my ass off and I made onemistake, one mistake and I lost
Yep.
I can't make mistakes.
Yep, right, I got to go back tothe drawing board and I got to
make sure, or that I'm so goodthat I could make mistakes and

(01:13:09):
I'm still going to win, right,all of that stuff, that sports
for a child that has a good life, I mean, listen, if you're
growing up, poor guys there'splenty, don't even worry about
it.
You don't need the syntheticpart.

Speaker 2 (01:13:22):
There's real ones.

Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
Naturally provided part.
Yeah, there's real ones.
Naturally, naturally provided.
Those Haitians that arestealing cats over there in Ohio
, guys, don't worry about it,you guys get real adversity
there.
But, but, the, but, the but,the uh, by the way, I all jokes.
I love, I love Haitian people.
Hard-working people are.
I don't know why.
They're either security guardsor nurses.
That's what they like to dowhen they get to this country.
That's fucking amazing, likethose are the two professions.
I haven't figured out why.
I had plenty ofitian friendsand they're hard-working people,
great people.
They come.
They come here with the asidefrom the stealing cats part,
which I find the fuckinghilarious.

(01:13:51):
They're hard-working, they comehere with the immigrant
mentality, absolutely, and theyget right to work.
They get those guys, man, theyget.
They come here from thatabsolute shithole that they come
from and they appreciate everysecond of being here, great,
great people.
But, um, I lost track with that, with the, with the haitian
talk, I don't know where I wasgoing with it, but either your

(01:14:12):
kids, the, the, the oh yeah,yeah, yeah.
So.
So, yeah, listen, man, you knowthere's no, no, I, I don't find
I don't know any other way toteach kids about life.
Right, and and and and, thenputting them through that
synthetic adversity.
High level sports and not the.
Oh, I'm going to take Timmy to,you know, soccer practice and

(01:14:32):
see what happens.
No, no, no, let's try to makeTimmy the best soccer player
ever.
Yeah, right, and let's seewhere that journey takes you.
It's not about, oh, let me seewhat I get from the.
You know, I get from what Ihear all the time.
Well, I'm going to see if helikes it.
Motherfucker, what the?
Does he like brushing his teeth?
Yeah, right, does he?
Oh, it's too hard.
And no, he cried because it wastoo hard and it was hot and
everything like that.
Good, right, you're teachinghim about life.

(01:14:53):
How much time I got left, okay?

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
So yeah, man, I'll.
I mean, when I played sportsthere was quite a bit of that
and obviously I don't fit thedemographic that you normally
see on a football team insoutheast Florida, so I never
imagined you played football.
You might have told me thatActually I was pretty fast and
so I was able to take and makeup for it.
But I also practice harder thananybody.
I was there before everybodyand I leapt after everybody
every single day and it was hardto break the field, get on the

(01:15:22):
field even and get a shot justbecause I didn't, you know, fit
the stereotype.
Well, what do you mean?
I'm just kidding.
You know exactly what I meanand you know what I did.
I did pretty well, but going tothe gym was always that for me,
you know, because you get upagainst the edge of yourself
where you're like I can't do anymore, let's do one more anyway

(01:15:42):
right.
Let's see, and so you know,finding out, pushing yourself
beyond the edges.

Speaker 1 (01:15:46):
You were an actual bodybuilder for a while.

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
I was a powerlifter first, and then I was a
bodybuilder, and so apowerlifter you got pictures of
you in your bodybuilding days.

Speaker 1 (01:15:53):
I might have one somewhere around there.
Can you send it so we can kindof put it on the come on dude.

Speaker 2 (01:15:59):
Yeah, no, I can.
I can probably maybe findsomeone.

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
Yeah, go on.
Oh, you got to find it.
Yeah, I'll find one for you,yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
And you were a ballroom dancer too.

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
Yeah, no, that was another way.
It wasn't a bodybuilderCadillac dancing, was it?
It was skinnier, yeah, so youwere a bodybuilder ballroom
dancer at some point, at somepoint it was great extra cardio.
You know, you're always takingand a uh, it was at a Lomachenko

(01:16:27):
.
I think it was Lomachenko, uh,a great boxer.
Um, the dad wasn't happy withthe, with the um, with his
footwork.
He quit boxing for like twoyears and just the dancing.

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
Yeah, and then came back.
Get your weight where it needsto be.
It's a thing.

Speaker 1 (01:16:44):
Yeah, I always threaten my son.
I'm like, oh, you want tocomplain about something.
I'm like, yeah, you know what?
Fuck that I'll put you in theballet.
So I was threatening him withthat.
He didn't like it.
So, yeah, I mean kind of likewe talked about a lot of stuff,
Any of my notes?

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
First time I take notes, so let me see.
Uh, no, I think I coveredeverything, man, you got it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:14):
You had any notes, any notes on on on your end?
No, I mean, uh, we're justtalking about all the normal
real estate stuff, that's goingon, but all right, books you
want to.
Let's promote.
Uh uh, you are a best-sellingauthor.
I mean, I don't know if youknow that we're working my way
toward it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
Uh close, uh close.
For life is is the book that'sout.
I'm working on a new bookproject right now that is going
to be called Success for Lifeand that's in the works.
We're going to really try totake and get stories from some
really successful people.

Speaker 1 (01:17:34):
Plus our book project that if we ever get off the
ground, that is Success for Life.

Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
Oh, that is for okay, okay, and so that's going to be
where we look at the storiesand kind of try to isolate the
things, because not everyoneneeds the same thing.
Yeah, some people like theydon't need vitamin C because
their diet naturally has it, butthey're low on vitamin A, right
.

Speaker 1 (01:17:55):
And so I think, looking at different people's
stories and figuring out whatthat so we had a sports
psychologist on the podcast lastweek and every time I ask him
like about, you know, you knowhow?
About how, about for thisperson or that you know that
type of athlete, that type of?
Well, it depends.
Certain different things workfor different people and I'm
like I got I almost got tired.

(01:18:16):
I'm like dude, you need afucking answer here.
He's like it had two examplesof two different, two very
high-level athletes, right, Oneof them at practice.
If he lost at practice wouldn'tmake a difference, like he
would actually go to practicewith the intent of trying things
out that would make him lose atpractice and didn't matter.
When it came to competition hewould win.

(01:18:37):
Then there was another athlete,again very high level, almost
equal, right.
If he had one loss at practice,his fucking world would end.
He would go home crying andit's like, literally, the world
ended for one mistake.
So, both of them, it worked forthem.
Both of them high-levelathletes.
Both of them just completelydifferent.

Speaker 2 (01:18:59):
I think the best sports psychologist I could
quote is Mr Joe Torre, who hadto manage some incredibly
ridiculous personalities onthose Yankee teams and he said
this was his take some playersneed a pat on the ass and some
people need a kick in the ass.
And so, like A-Rod, he wouldsay famously, he was a player
that needed a pat on the ass.

(01:19:19):
He was always the guy that youneeded to tell him you were
doing good.
He needed to hear that Jeterwas you know.
The other way.
Jeter wanted the you know A.
What do you?
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:19:28):
more.
And so it's crazy.
Athletes are different, mindsare different.

Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
Well, sure, but I mean, that's kind of the crazy
thing.
Right, you and I have bothfound a way to be highly
productive, and that's a mentalgame we play with ourselves.
I need negative energy.

Speaker 1 (01:19:47):
Oh, absolutely.
If anybody's listening to this,please continue to send fucked
up shit through the Instagram DM.
I absolutely need negativeenergy to function Like.
I need people telling me I can'tdo it.
I need people insulting me.
I mean, that's my motivation, Ireally.
So, please, guys.
All right, and I welcome theanti-Semitic stuff.
It keeps Ethan on his toes overthere, all right.
So continue to do all of thatstuff.
I mean, send everything Raciststuff, talk shit about Cubans.

(01:20:10):
Whatever you got to do, justcontinue with the negative shit.
On the end, I find itfascinating that A, you have
time to do that, yeah, all right, and that your fucking lives
are so goddamn negative thatyou're going to just that's what
you do.
You wake up in the morning andyou write negative shit.

(01:20:31):
It is fascinating, so pleasecontinue to do it.
But, yeah, everybody'sdifferent man, are you a pat on
the ass or a kick in the ass?
What are you?
I don't know.
I don't think you have anybodytime to get.

Speaker 2 (01:20:36):
There's not many people that give me a kick in
the ass.

Speaker 1 (01:20:37):
That's what I'm saying.
You kick your own ass.

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
Yeah, no, I do really , I mean, I think it's.
I will say that since you and Istarted working together, I've
gotten a lot of things done justbecause you've asked me to, and
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:20:48):
I want to take and come through for you.

Speaker 2 (01:20:50):
So maybe that makes me a pat on the ass guy.
I don't know.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
I mean, I don't know.
Well, I think we're going to gointo a cool chapter now.
I think that the conversation,the meeting we had last of them,
I'm kind of stuck.
Whatever I need your help on,but there's a couple things that
we're working on right now thatare pretty exciting, but the
one that we had meeting we hadlast week.
I mean that takes us into awhole different galaxy,

(01:21:16):
absolutely you know what I meanCould really change the world
and help people.
Literally, it could change thestate right away.
Yeah, they could change thestate right away.
Yeah, the state right away,because that's where we're going
to start.
So it's going to be cool, Iagree.
All right, kyle.
I think we're literally out oftime.
Yeah right, 30 seconds orsomething.
Yeah, all right, cool.
Love you, brother.
Thank you, man.

Speaker 2 (01:21:36):
Right back at you, bro.

Speaker 1 (01:21:37):
I think I forgot to put the odorant on.
Yeah, right, yeah leave it onall right and now all right,
gentlemen, I have to uh hit theroad?

(01:21:58):
Did we insult enough people onthis or what?

Speaker 2 (01:22:00):
that was great yo, I think we got everybody hey again
now that the cameras are kindof off.

Speaker 1 (01:22:04):
I could like.
I say it completely.
I think we got everybody.
Hey, again, now that thecameras are kind of off, I can
say it completely.
Are the cameras off?
Yeah, yeah, dude, the black guythat complains now about being
fucking held down or whatever bea fucking Jew for one day.
The amount of fucked up shitthat dude.

(01:22:25):
How the fuck can people justget away like it's just crazy.
I support people getting awaywith it because you just be able
to say whatever you want, butbe jewish, black guys, be jewish
for one fucking day, bro, I'mtelling you.

Speaker 2 (01:22:37):
There's only one.
There's only one of those.
What's crazy is it's becausethe left is abandoned and it's
crazy with the left abandoningthem, they're still voting for
the left.
Jewish people overwhelminglyvote liberal and the liberals
are absolutely abandoning inorder to take and pick up the.
I definitely forgot to put theorder in on guys.

Speaker 1 (01:22:53):
Fuck the Jewish people vote for the liberals?

Speaker 2 (01:22:59):
Yeah, they always do.

Speaker 1 (01:23:00):
but it has to change at some point.
Well, like the Orthodox ones,the Orthodox are very concerned,
bro, go on Listen when you'rebored.

Speaker 2 (01:23:08):
Go on to the one where he says he's Moroccan.
When you're on the plane orsomething, go on to Moroccan.
The guy says he's.

Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
Moroccan.
Whatever, he has 250,000 views.
I don't know how many commentsyou can get.
This camera and this cameraJust go.
It's fucking insane.
The best one is the keep an eyeon them.
I actually commented on it.
It was pretty funny the guysaid well, the king of Morocco
kept all the Jews around thecastle because he wanted the

(01:23:36):
best people around.
And the guy goes yeah, right,just because he wanted to keep a
close eye.
I'm going to keep an eye on them.
Dude, I got to put the order onmy phone.
Did you end up seeing thatpodcast with the PBD?

Speaker 2 (01:23:53):
Did you end up seeing the PBD podcast?

Speaker 1 (01:23:55):
with Dan Bazzieri.
Yeah, it was great.
Oh yeah, that's a perfectexample of that If he went out
there and said, bro, the blackpeople are fucking crazy, oh man
.
Bro done, yeah, yeah, yeah, bro, done, yeah, yeah, done For
sure, done, yeah.
I'm surprised that interviewwas still up when I saw it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:12):
Yeah, it's true but what, josh?

Speaker 1 (01:24:14):
said I haven't seen it.
I mean it's hard, right, yeah,it's hard, Usually it doesn't
last.
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:24:22):
No, it's true what Josh said.

Speaker 1 (01:24:24):
The left is abandoning them.
Yeah, they're getting abandoned, bro.
No wonder he's chilling withLatinos.
You're Jewish, bro?
No, yeah, well, he's chillingwith Latinos now.
So he's good, bro.
But you don't wear the yarmulke, bro.
I don't know if you're Jewish.
I was actually.

(01:24:45):
Yeah, I am real.
I'm Hebrew, bro.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So he's like oh, come on, youcan tell us to fuck off.
How do you cuss?
What's the cuss word?
You do Shabbat?
Yeah, I've actually had Shabbatlast Friday.
Yeah, bro, it's like very nicetrick.
They're like oh, you can'tleave, you can't go out on
Friday.
Yo, uh, ethan, how muchhundreds of thousands did you

(01:25:16):
get?

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