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Ed Mathews (00:00):
As a limited partner
in a real estate debt fund.
You're investing like a bank.
You're lending money secured byreal estate and earning
consistent returns.
No ownership headaches, notenants, no toilets, just
passive income backed by hardassets and managed by pros.
So the big question is this howdo real estate investors who
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don't have a ton of free time,don't have access to off-market
deals and didn't start life onthird base, how do we
conservatively grow our realestate business to support our
families, finally leave thecorporate rat race and build a
legacy?
That is the question.
This podcast will give you theanswers.
I'm Ed Mathews and this is RealEstate Underground.
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Greetings and salutations.
Welcome to this special seriesfrom the Real Estate Underground
.
We're trying something new withthese episodes, keeping them
focused, educational andconversational.
A bit different from our usualinterviews, but still all about
helping you become a smarter,more confident real estate
investor.
Now, if you've been listeningto the show for a while, you
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know we talk a lot about realestate from the operator's
perspective, but I get questionsall the time from listeners and
investors who want tounderstand the passive side,
specifically how to invest as alimited partner.
So in this series, we'reflipping the script.
We're going deep into the LP,experience how it works, what to
expect and how to make smart,informed decisions as a passive
investor.
In this first lesson, we'rekicking things off with the
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basics.
What exactly is a limitedpartner in a real estate debt
fund?
Let's break it down.
A real estate debt fund is aprofessionally managed pool of
capital that lends money to realestate investors or developers.
In plain English, you put yourmoney into the fund, the fund
lends that money out, secured byreal estate, and you earn
interest on that money, usuallymonthly or quarterly.
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You're not buying properties,you're not signing on loans.
You're becoming the bank.
Just like a bank makes money bylending, you make money by
putting your capital to work,earning income through interest
payments.
So what's a limited partner?
A limited partner or LP issomeone who invests in the fund
but doesn't manage the fund.
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You're a passive investor.
You're protected from liabilitybeyond your investment and you
benefit from the fund'sperformance without any of the
day-to-day involvement.
You're not making lendingdecisions or you're not
collecting payments and you'renot managing defaults.
That's the job of the generalpartner, the team running the
fund.
Your job Wire the capital,track the performance and
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collect the distributions.
Let's bring this to life with areal-world example.
Let's say you invest $100,000into a debt fund that lends to
real estate flippers.
The fund loans that capital toexperienced operators secured by
properties.
For example, the fund loans$250,000 to a flipper who's
buying a house at 65% of itsafter repair value.
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That loan to value figuredepends on the experience and
financial strength of theborrower.
That flipper renovates the home, sells it within six months and
pays the fund 12% interestalong the way.
You, as the LP, would earn 8%to 10% net on your investment,
depending on your agreement withthe fund.
The fund keeps a small cut formanaging the loans and you sit
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back and collect steady income.
No phone calls, no surprises,no drywall dust.
What kind of returns can youexpect?
Every fund is different, butmany target 7% to 10% annually
net to limited partners.
Returns are distributed monthlyor quarterly as interest income
, which is likely taxable andsometimes reinvested if the fund
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allows for compounding.
You need to check with youradvisors for guidance on how to
handle taxes.
Just keep in mind this isn't anequity play.
You won't get a slice of theupside or appreciation.
Also, remember the fund doesnot get equity in the borrower's
property either.
You're a lender, not an owner,and so is the fund.
Okay, now let's talk about risk.
No investment is risk-free, buthere's what makes debt funds
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relatively conservative.
The loans are backed by hardreal estate collateral.
They're typically underwrittenat low loan-to-value ratios,
like 60% or 70%, and most fundsare diversified across dozens of
loans and borrowers.
If a borrower defaults, thefund can foreclose on the asset
and, because there's built-inequity, the capital is protected
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.
Of course, it all comes down tothe team managing the fund
their underwriting, theirjudgment, their discipline, and
that's why due diligence, whichwe'll cover in a later episode,
is so important.
Who is this strategy right for?
This strategy is great if youwant predictable passive income,
don't want to manage tenants orrenovations, prefer real estate
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without direct ownershipheadaches, or simply want to
diversify outside of Wall Street.
It's especially attractive forbusy professionals, retirees,
business owners or anyonesitting on idle cash.
If you care about capitalpreservation and cash flow, this
may be exactly the tool you'vebeen looking for.
And who isn't this right for?
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Let's be honest, it's not foreveryone.
If you need short-term accessto your money, want equity
upside or long-term appreciation, or prefer to make every
decision in the deal, then thismight not be the best fit.
Debt funds are built for incomeand safety, not fireworks.
A quick note on taxes.
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Most of the income you earnfrom a debt fund is ordinary
interest income.
That means it's taxed at yourregular rate, not at capital
gains.
That's why many investors useself-directed IRAs or solo 401ks
to invest throughtax-advantaged accounts.
We'll talk more about that in alater episode.
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Okay, let's land this plane.
Here's your final takeaway.
As a limited partner in a realestate debt fund, you're
investing like a bank.
You're lending money secured byreal estate and earning
consistent returns.
No ownership headaches, notenants, no toilets, just
passive income backed by hardassets and managed by pros.
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For the right investor.
This is a smart, repeatablesystem for building wealth
without sacrificing your time orhaving to ride the stock market
roller coaster.
In the next lesson, we'll godeeper into how a debt fund is
structured, how deals aresourced, how the money flows and
how you get paid.
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If you enjoyed this format andgot some value out of it, leave
a comment and tell me what elseyou want to learn about.
Thanks for listening.
Bye for now.