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May 21, 2025 56 mins

In this eye-opening episode of The Real Finds Podcast, host Gordon Lamphere welcomes Andrew Farah, the CEO and co-founder of Density, a company revolutionizing how we measure and understand physical space usage in office environments.

Together, they explore the hidden inefficiencies of commercial office spaces, the myths around return-to-office mandates, and how anonymous, real-time space data can fundamentally reshape how organizations use their buildings, without infringing on privacy.

🔍 Key Topics Covered:

- Why “butts in seats” is a broken metric for workplace effectiveness

- How Density’s radar-based sensors provide real-time data while ensuring complete privacy

- Why camera-based systems pose legal, ethical, and cybersecurity risks

- “Ghost meetings,” unclaimed desks, and the vast wasteland of unused office space

- How high-trust, in-person collaboration builds stronger products and teams

- What federal government real estate downsizing means for office investors and REITs

- Creative solutions for return-to-office success: including in-building childcare

- The real impact of flexible work on young professionals, mentorship, and workplace training

- How future workspaces will blend AI, self-driving tech, and radically smaller, higher-output teams

📈 Whether you're a commercial real estate investor, a corporate occupier, or simply navigating hybrid work policies, this episode will change the way you think about space, people, and productivity.

📚 Books Recommended by Andrew Farah:

The Order of Time by Carlo Rovelli – A poetic exploration of time by a physicist who writes like a philosopher.

Endurance by Alfred Lansing – The true survival story of Ernest Shackleton’s Antarctic expedition (with a shoutout to navigator Frank Worsley).

Contact by Carl Sagan – A science fiction classic about our place in the universe, later adapted into a film starring Jodie Foster.

Unreasonable Hospitality by Will Guidara – Behind the scenes of Eleven Madison Park and the art of going above and beyond for customers.

Lessons of History by Will & Ariel Durant – A concise but profound meditation on human history, civilization, and recurring patterns.

Andrew also shares powerful advice for young professionals: read what you love until you love to read, and let curiosity, not competition, guide your growth.

📬 Want to connect with Andrew Farah or learn more about Density?

Website: https://www.density.io

Email: andrew@density.io

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewfarah/

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