May 23, 2024 • 25 mins
Take a stroll with us through the vibrant history of South Florida, as I, Leigh Ohlone, sit down with Clive Taylor, the esteemed President of the Hollywood Historical Society. We'll unravel the rich narrative of our sun-kissed region, from its days as a pastoral retreat to the pulsating urban heart it is today. Clive, with his wealth of knowledge, casts a light on the fine line walked between progressing city life and conserving the historical gems that whisper tales of our yesteryears. You'll be swept into a discussion that's part history lesson, part personal memoir, celebrating the growth of our beloved cities while honoring the legacies they carry.
Hear my own tale of falling in love with the architecture in Rio Vista and how it propelled me to champion the preservation of our community's cultural touchstones. As Clive and I reminisce about Hollywood's quirkiest characters and the iconic structures that stand as testaments to their legacies, you'll discover the lesser-known scandals and triumphs that have colored the city's past. The episode is peppered with anecdotes about the Hammersteins' peculiar ways and the mystery of Hollywood's circular designs. Join us for a conversation that not only walks you through the annals of Hollywood, Florida, but also celebrates the collective history that binds us all.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome to Real Life with Leigh.
Powered by Leigh Ohlone, southFlorida Real Estate at G&E
Realty Group, the show whereLeigh and her guests talk about
everything South Florida, 24-7,365, and why you should make it
your home, sweet home.
Leigh is a realtor, a SouthFlorida resident since the age
of five, devoted wife and momand a dedicated community
(00:28):
volunteer.
Now, without further ado,here's your host, lee Ohlone.
Lee Aloni (00:41):
Welcome everyone.
Hi there, I am Leea Loney, andthis is Real Life with Lea in
South Florida, 24-7, 365.
So glad you joined us.
Today we have a special guest,none other than my dear friend
Clive Taylor.
Hello, clive.
Clive Taylor (01:02):
Good morning Lea.
It's a pleasure to be here andI really enjoyed that intro.
Lee Aloni (01:06):
I'm so happy to hear that.
I'm glad you like that.
Clive Taylor (01:09):
Thank you, thank, you Thank you.
Lee Aloni (01:12):
So real life.
Real life is all about yes, I'ma realtor.
Let me just get that out there.
Disclaimer I'm a realtor.
Clive Taylor (01:20):
I didn't know this .
Yeah, I didn't know this.
She's here From the intro.
Lee Aloni (01:25):
Yeah, that's right, real.
Real means real life, not justreal estate, and that's the
basis of this entire podcast.
So today I'm really excited tointroduce you to my dear friend,
clive, in real life and in thestudio.
(01:45):
He is such a great friend.
We've known each other forabout five years now it seems
longer.
He seems like he's my brotherfrom another mother.
I love you and yeah, yes, I gotyou, I love it, I love it.
(02:06):
I love it.
And yeah, yes, I got you, Ilove it, I love it, I love it.
Anyway, so we're talking aboutreal life in South Florida and
the reason why I brought Cliveon is that he is you are, you
are the president.
Clive Taylor (02:18):
Yes, still president for now.
Things change rapidly in thisenvironment.
Lee Aloni (02:22):
Hey, you know life is all about change, but you know,
right now let's enjoy the rideHollywood Historical not
hysterical Hollywood HistoricalSociety right In downtown
Hollywood.
So I'm going to right now, andI'm going to let you go ahead
and introduce yourself.
Tell us a little bit about you,clive, and how you got involved
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in the Hollywood HistoricalSociety.
Clive Taylor (02:48):
Thank you, leigh, for asking me to do this, by the
way, because I always likeopening my big mouth when it
involves history and stories ofSouth Florida in general.
My story starts in 1965 atBroward General at 5.15 pm on
December 4th Don't forget,that's my birthday Send cards
and letters on that day.
So I'm a native of SouthFlorida, which means I've now
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reached the age where I can sayI remember when, for instance,
university Drive was a two-laneroad and there was cows on there
and people are like what youknow and so I grew up here.
Remember right.
Lee Aloni (03:23):
March 1965, I remember, Remember right March
1965.
Clive Taylor (03:28):
I remember we are now the present old coots of
this land that we tell theseyoung people what life was like.
And when I was young I heardthat from other people about
State Road 7 being andeverything, and I used to hear
people say everything ended atState Road 7.
I used to hear people sayeverything ended at State Road 7
.
So, growing up here, watchingthe march towards the Everglades
of development, and then theyfinally reached it right.
(03:50):
So that's it, you can't go anyfurther and you think, okay,
we're done, there's no morebuilding, they can't.
Well, no.
So we see now, since there's nomore vacant land, we see
redevelopment going on in thehistoric cores of our of our
cities, which is good and bad.
You really want people to livein the downtown and have a
walkable environment, but thatcomes at a cost of possibly
losing some historic structureswhich tell the story of south
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florida, which is not that old.
My interest in history, I think,began as a young age.
I had an aunt that lived in riovista and if you know the
neighborhood of rio vista whenwas a child, there was a lot
more original homes of thatneighborhood still standing and
I remember driving in mymother's car, looking out the
window, fascinated by thesestucco, rough stucco and
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chimneys and the windows andjust the whole.
And my great aunt lived in ahouse that was sold and weren't
even sure what year it was built.
It had two fireplaces, it hadlittle nooks and crannies where
you could secret passageways andI was just enthralled by that.
And then in third grade, atPine Ridge elementary school, we
did a field trip to the KingCrominey house in Fort
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Lauderdale and I never forgotthat and I just, you know, I
don't know where it comes from.
Maybe those are the things thatinfluenced me.
And I got to an age where Icould become involved in the
historic community and I wasasked to serve on boards and I
got invited to be on the boardof the Hollywood Historical
Society and then I was nominatedvice president and that
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president left and now I findmyself in the driver's seat of
that's history, as they say.
Lee Aloni (05:23):
What's that?
I said that's history as theysay oh, what's that?
Clive Taylor (05:28):
I said that's history, as they say, the rest
is history.
So, being such, I guess, a fanof history and to be in the seat
of the of the leadership ofhollywood historical society, I
feel like it's right where Ineed to be and I think, a
catalyst for all theseinvolvements that I'm doing and
I'm just going to shout out toChamber Leadership Hollywood
Chamber of Commerce greatestHollywood Chamber of Commerce
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and their leadership program iswhere I met you and a lot of
other leaders in the communityand I got to tell you the
Hollywood Historical SocietyBoard is populated with quite a
few leadership alumni.
Lee Aloni (06:00):
I want to jump in.
I want to jump in because weare Leadership Hollywood class
of 42.
Clive Taylor (06:06):
Right on, come through.
Lee Aloni (06:07):
That's right.
That's where we met at theGreat Hollywood Chamber of
Commerce, and you and I are bothactive in Leadership Hollywood
program.
Still, I'm a day chair for theMedia Day and Health and Human
Services Day every year sincewe've graduated.
And what is your role there?
Clive Taylor (06:23):
I moved out of the steering committee and now I'm
the president of the leadershipfoundation.
So the chamber has created afoundation to separate the the
leadership, from the main partof the chamber, which is a 50136
.
This is a 5013c so we can raisemoney.
It was a really good move.
So that's why I'm stillinvolved the chamber and I'm
still on the board, and I gotelected to be the representative
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for my class when I graduatedand I'm going to stay on.
Of course that was the hook.
Let's get on the board for oneyear, and then we'll like.
Lee Aloni (06:53):
I voted for you.
You had to be voted on by yourpeers, so so tell us a little
bit about the HollywoodHistorical Society, you know?
Clive Taylor (07:05):
in a nutshell, In a nutshell, this organization is
50 years old this year.
We started in 1974 by a groupof activists.
Pat Smith was the founder andshe led the charge in 1974 to
try to save the old HollywoodHills High School, which was an
incredible structure, like Isaid, that rough stucco exterior
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that they did in the 20s.
It was a mission style school.
It was built by joseph young.
It was out in the middle ofnowhere when it was built in
1920s and that birthed thehollywood historical society
because the buildings werestarting.
That building was only 48 yearsold.
It was two years away frombeing on the national register
so unfortunately it tore it downbefore it was that bright beige
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.
But people started to look backat that time at hollywood and
saw the rich inventory ofhistoric structures that we
still have left and thought youknow, it's time for historical
society.
We were not that old in 1974,we were under 50 years old at
that point the city.
So thank god for the women andthe residents that started this
organization back then becausethey started collecting stuff
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that we would have lost forever.
There were people alive stillthat were there in the twenties
that we were able to do oralhistories with.
So we are now 50 years old.
We've done a lot in thecommunity.
We're housed in the Hammersteinhome.
Lee Aloni (08:24):
Tell us about the Hammerstein house.
I love it.
Oh, I'm in it now.
Oh, my God.
Clive Taylor (08:30):
We call him Ham.
That was his nickname Ham, andthey were pioneers in Hollywood
as well.
They came to Miami and followedJoseph Young's development in
Hollywood and decided to.
He actually worked for JosephYoung in sales selling the great
real estate boom of thetwenties and he decided that he
was going to stay here and hebuilt this home.
Lee Aloni (08:52):
I heard magical words .
I heard real estate boom, realestate.
Clive Taylor (08:55):
This whole entire city was built on the real
estate.
You know model that nobody wasdoing.
Hollywood is so unique becausethe promoter of our city, the
founder of our city, was amaster at sales and what he did
people are doing today.
He had a bus fleet, a boatfleet and he got people here on
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trains and he would get you toHollywood up the boat from the
Miami River, give you the freelunch, hold you captive for like
seven hours and then take youon a tour.
It was the original timesharething he was doing that in the
20s, and so he lays this entire.
I mean, it was incredible.
So no other city in southflorida was growing like
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hollywood was because of hisadvertising arm and his sales
team.
He had a fleet sales but he got30 sales buses and he
advertised all over the country.
He started a publicationcompany where he made his own
magazines.
He advertised in SaturdayEvening Post Literary Digest.
So everybody up north waslooking right here between Miami
and Fort Lauderdale in the 20sand buying in Hollywood.
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So Hammerstein was a part ofthat.
Hammerstein was a part of thatand he hires a very well-known
architect, bayard Lukens, whodid a lot of tropical modern
homes in South Florida inHollywood, designed South
Broward High Schoolstate-of-the-art South Broward
High School design at the timeand he built this tropical
modern home.
That is all original and whenHammerstein was getting older he
realized this was a specialhome and he donates it to the
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city.
About the time the hollywoodhistorical society is coming
into an existence and the citydecides to let us have our
organization in this home and weopen it for tours and our
research center is located here.
So it was just a kismet,symbiotic thing that happened at
exactly the right moment intime so I have to interrupt you
there.
Lee Aloni (10:39):
You know I'm having this revelation right now.
I understand why.
You know I was born in chicagobut I moved here when I was five
.
I feel like I'm cheating if Isay I'm native but I am a
Floridian.
Clive Taylor (10:48):
You are cheating.
Lee Aloni (10:51):
Sorry, it's our little secret, it's our little
secret.
Anyway, come on, this hasreally shaped the person that I
am.
You know, I started out.
I wasn't always a realtor, Iwas a travel agent for about 10
years and it is so fascinatingin downtown Hollywood and all of
Hollywood and all of SouthFlorida the world too, hello.
(11:12):
But I understand where I got myroots from because you know the
beauty that we have down here.
It's unique to so many otherplaces and that's why people
love coming here.
And then when I got into realestate, I wow, I love the
architecture.
Clive Taylor (11:32):
That's exactly what you just said.
Lee Aloni (11:34):
Yeah.
Clive Taylor (11:34):
What the fascination for the rest of the
country of South Florida,because until the railroad came
in 1896, there was no way to gethere.
You had to take a stagecoach oryou took a ship that frequently
ran aground and sunk.
So once the railroad got hereand opened up, people like
there's a tropical wonderlandand the only tropical
environment in the whole countryis southeast florida.
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So countries, beaches, thecaribbean, crystal clear blue
waters.
That is still present today andthat is what still gets people
to this part of the country.
Lee Aloni (12:09):
That's right.
And see, even though we'rehaving a heat wave today because
we are I'm still looking out mywindow and the sun is shining
and I'm loving it.
It's not gloomy, it's alwaysgreen and it's just.
It's a state of mind.
I love nothing more thanwearing my t-shirt and my
leggings and my flip flops.
I don't have to worry about, ohmy God, how many layers I'm
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going to have to wear today anddo I need the umbrella, and you
know so many other things toworry about.
This is so relaxing andpeaceful and it's just a happy
place.
Clive Taylor (12:41):
It is and it makes it so much.
Lee Aloni (12:46):
Yeah, and it makes it so much easier for me to I
don't like the word sell, but tosell it to my customers.
It sells itself, it just lendsitself to.
You know, it's the vibe, and Ilove the architecture, and so
I'm going to bring it right backto Hammerstein House right now,
because I remember touring itwith you a few years ago.
I'd like to get in there withyou another time.
(13:06):
We'll do it, this is not justthe one and done here, clive.
Clive Taylor (13:10):
Yeah, I'd have the keys anytime.
Lee Aloni (13:14):
So go ahead, and if you want to tell us more about
Hammerstein House, anything orWell, what makes this house so
unique is the fact that it wasbuilt in 1935.
Clive Taylor (13:24):
And there are structures here in 1935.
What makes this extremelyunique and I don't think it
exists anywhere else, because Iknow a few houses that were just
like this, but now they've beengutted is it had one owner and
the owner was the had it builtand it is 100, completely
original.
Inside.
The kitchen is 1935, thecabinets the counters.
(13:45):
Yeah, bathrooms have 1935fixtures sinks, toilets, tubs,
tile nirvana it's a time capsule, so not only do you get to see
the exterior features, you comein and there's this incredible
clay tile with little insets ofdifferent cool, almost like
Aztec design tiles in there.
There's an open beam, a peckycypress cathedral roof with this
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fireplace.
It's so unique and that's whypeople come here to visit us,
because it is a time capsulefrom 1935.
In 1935, there wasn't a lot ofbuilding because it was the
depths of the Depression.
You had to have money to builda house in 1935.
So there's really not a lot ofbuilding.
It was not a building boom.
The building boom really cameafter World War II.
Lee Aloni (14:28):
Is there?
Okay, so a little twist here, alittle plot twist.
Is there any kind of scandalous, you know, scandalous about
hollywood or the hammersteinhouse or anything you know?
Clive Taylor (14:40):
let's spice it up well you know, I've heard people
mention this on tour so I'mjust gonna say it.
Okay, I talked, I talked.
Listen, I've been in this towna long time.
I'm a press control and I gointo a lot of houses in this
town and I went into somepioneer houses and we would talk
about the old days because I'minterested.
And one thing that popped upbefore I was even interested in
being in this organization wasthe hammersteins, especially
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vera, were known for beingfriendly, not like armed robbery
, but being kind of club ofmaniacs and they would go to
parties and you'd like to haveto watch your silver, or they
could go shopping and peoplehave told this story so I'm not
saying anything.
I shouldn't say, okay, youshould advertise a lot.
But uh, this one gentleman,ralph springer, who was a
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pioneer family they were here inthe 20s and they had springer
car company, a springer cabcompany and bus company before
broward county had a bus servicebut hollywood had their own bus
service and it was a springerfamily.
They had gas stations off andhe told me that Vera would go
into shops downtown and thenthey would.
Just she would walk out withstuff and you know they would.
(15:45):
The owners of the shop wouldjust send the invoice to
Hammerstein.
They're like, okay, this iswhat your wife took.
Lee Aloni (15:50):
This is what she took .
Clive Taylor (15:53):
They were very nice people, but you know, some
people are fuffle maniacs.
It's just like what's the bigdeal?
She paid for it in the endbecause they got invoiced for it
.
So that's a little fun tidbit.
And Victor Diabonke, who wastheir attorney he'll tell you
that all day long.
Yeah, I guess we just have alittle blip, a little blip.
Lee Aloni (16:15):
I need to drink a little tea, so yeah, you should
have some of that coffee.
Clive Taylor (16:18):
The other scandalous thing, and it's
really not too scandalous Tea.
Lee Aloni (16:20):
It's tea In honor of tradition.
Clive Taylor (16:23):
I wish I had some tea.
Lee Aloni (16:25):
Oh, clive, I'm so sorry.
Next time We'll meet in person,I'll treat you to tea, yeah.
Clive Taylor (16:33):
So Clarence and Vera are still in the home.
Both of their urns are in theFlorida room.
Oh, so they are, you know,resting peacefully in this home.
They loved it so much theywanted to stay here, so we have
them here if you'd like to visitthem as well.
That's not really a scandal.
It's just a little factoid.
Lee Aloni (16:51):
I'll come and say, hi , yeah, I can go get them.
No, it's okay, it's fine,they'll keep.
They'll wait.
It's been a long time, butthey're fine.
Let them rest in peace.
It's fine, okay, so any trivia,anything you want to throw out?
Clive Taylor (17:09):
there.
Yeah, you know what makesHollywood trivia.
Yes, so we have three circlesin Hollywood.
That's right.
We were supposed to have four.
One did not get completed, buthalf of it is still there.
Half of the circle is stillthere.
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It was on the original plaquefor Hollywood.
I won't tell you the answer ifyou don't want me to, but people
can do a little research andthey can find where that fourth
circle was going to be.
Lee Aloni (17:44):
I need to know now.
Clive Taylor (17:46):
You need to know now.
Lee Aloni (17:47):
Now you need to know Right now, but first tell us the
other three.
I know them, but go ahead.
Clive Taylor (17:53):
Oh, the other three circles Young.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Circle.
Clive Taylor (17:55):
Yeah, of course, City Hall Circle and what's now
known as Presidential Circle,which used to be known as
Hollywood Hills Inn.
And I don't think that circlehad a name at that point.
But shortly after most peopledon't realize Presidential
Circle had an old, beautifulhotel like the Hollywood Beach
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Hotel.
It was a sister hotel, itwasn't as tall, but it was this
big, beautiful, long structurewith domes on both sides and a
central tower.
What year is that from Pardonme.
Lee Aloni (18:28):
What year was that from?
I don't remember that.
Clive Taylor (18:30):
Built in 1926.
And what happened in 1926?
The devastating hurricane.
So unfortunately, that's wheneverything crashed.
The hotel sits empty for acouple of years and Riverside
Military Academy from Georgiagets there.
Lee Aloni (18:44):
That's what I remember.
Clive Taylor (18:45):
Yeah, get wind of this old building and decide
this was a big thing becausethey were looking for a southern
home.
Whatever city scored thatRiverside military, it was huge
because it was a depression andthis was going to bring money
and resources to the city thatgot it.
So they set up shop at theHollywood Hills Inn and they
were there until the 80s theRiverside Military Academy.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
I remember it, it was their winner home.
Clive Taylor (19:08):
So it became known as Riverside Military or
Riverside Circle, andunfortunately they decided not
to come south anymore because itdoesn't get that cold in
Georgia anymore.
The growing orange is up thereand they demolished this
incredible structure that wasbuilt by Young and put up this
glass gleaming structure whicharchitecturally is kind of
interesting, but it's not theRiverside Inn.
So those are the three circles.
Lee Aloni (19:30):
All right, so the suspense is killing me.
What is number four?
Clive Taylor (19:35):
One more little trivia I recently found out
within the last year each circleis exactly 10 acres each circle
including north and south lake.
So at the heads of the lakethere's a circle yeah, 10 acres.
Each circle that was put inhollywood was 10 acres.
So the fourth land circle wasgoing to be in Liberia.
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Liberia was laid out withJoseph Young's original plan for
the black community becausethey were not allowed to live
within the white community.
What did Joseph Young do?
He created a mirror layout ofdowntown Hollywood in Liberia,
including a circle with the parkin the circle and a hotel, just
like our Parkview Hotel onYonge Circle.
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Unfortunately, everything kindof collapsed before it got built
.
But half of the circle gotbuilt and I think it's on 24th
Avenue.
If you go north you'll see thisroad just goes like this and
it's a half a circle.
Lee Aloni (20:34):
And if you just feel like it feel true, feel true,
you're taking me on a field trip, that's it.
I have to see it.
Liberia was built.
Clive Taylor (20:41):
Something else Most people don't realize that
Liberia was laid out by Young.
He paved the streets, he ranwater, ran electricity and
donated land for the blackcommunity to build churches and
schools.
There weren't a lot ofdevelopers that were thinking
about the black community inthis way in the 20s, and that's
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what he did for the for theearly segment, it was Jim Crow,
so, um, I think he was a littlebit more socially liberal in
that sense and that he felt like, if I have to separate the
races, they're going to havejust as good a community as the
other part of the population,which is exactly what he did wow
, this is Wow.
Lee Aloni (21:17):
I really do want to go see it with you.
That would be really wonderful.
So there's so much to talkabout, but we'll be here all day
because I could talk with youforever.
Clive Taylor (21:27):
I'm just getting started.
You're not saying anything.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
I know, I know I love talking with you.
Lee Aloni (21:31):
You really are like my other brother.
Clive Taylor (21:32):
Are we out of time already?
Lee Aloni (21:35):
Yeah, we're coming to the end here, but I wanted to
ask you about any upcomingevents for the Hollywood
Historical Society and how wecan get involved.
Clive Taylor (21:43):
So you can go on our website and you can join our
organization and you will be onour mailing list and you can
follow us on Facebook and nowInstagram, and we do have
welcome volunteers.
So if you're interested involunteering, please contact us.
We'll get you set up as avolunteer and when we have
events we can call on you, andwe are going to have a big event
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in November to celebrate our 50year anniversary.
We're talking about closing thestreet off, we're going to have
food trucks, we're going tohave live music, we're going to
have so excited and we're goingto try to organize a scavenger
hunt that will take people allover the city to learn about the
history of Hollywood.
Lee Aloni (22:21):
And then the great finish will be here.
I love that.
That's the adventure.
I love it, I love it.
And November, it's so coldeverywhere else.
But, wow, we'll be Nice andcool and happy.
We'll be without our shirts on.
Still, oh, someone I know, well, me, yeah, well, maybe I'll
wear a bathing suit, you know,just kind of flaunting it to the
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people, my family in Chicago.
I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry.
Anything, before we go now, canyou just tell me something real
about the Hollywood HistoricalSociety?
Or about Clive Taylor, real?
Do you want me to share withyou what I'm getting at here?
Clive Taylor (22:59):
Yeah.
Lee Aloni (23:00):
Yeah, what is it?
R?
Real?
R means it relates to me, toour community, to you, to my
customers, family and friends.
E energy.
It's the vibe of the city whichis Hollywood, and the vibe of
the people.
Yeah, a ask and learn.
Learn about our story, learnabout our history and L live,
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love, laugh, enjoy oursurroundings, enjoy the beauty,
explore, explore nature and allthe architecture and all the
businesses.
You know restaurants and thingsthat greater Hollywood has to
offer.
You know restaurants and thingsthat greater Hollywood has to
offer and and just buildconnecting and lifelong
friendships, like you and I haveso through the leadership
(23:42):
program.
Clive Taylor (23:42):
It's an excellent program to join and and you
mentioned, greater HollywoodPeople come to Hollywood because
they know there's somethingspecial about the way that it's
laid out.
Is the city beautiful, and sohaving the boulevard with the
circles and the white sidewalksand how everything is
thoughtfully laid out is a citybeautiful, and so having the
boulevard with the circles andthe white sidewalks and how
everything is thoughtfully laidout is what makes us unique in
the south floor landscape and I.
People are attracted.
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They're not clear why.
They're just like I really likeit and they don't really know
why, but it's that subtleinfluence that attracts people
to our city I love our broadwalk.
Lee Aloni (24:12):
I mean, there's nothing like it anywhere else.
Clive Taylor (24:14):
The only one in the entire state, the only broad
walk in the entire state is.
And that's Joseph Young.
He wanted people to have accessto the beach.
He didn't want you looking atthe back of the house or the
hotel, and that was his bigmission.
Is public access for people tohave access to things that they
don't normally have access to.
Lee Aloni (24:33):
My turtles.
I have turtle love.
I do I love my turtles.
Yeah, that's right.
So what's your website?
Hollywood Historical Society.
Clive Taylor (24:41):
Historical Society .
Just Google that and we'll comeright up.
Lee Aloni (24:44):
Okay, that's wonderful.
Well, Clive, thank you so much.
This has been such an uplifting, enriching, enjoyable, exciting
fun.
That's not long enough for me,I want more.
Clive Taylor (24:54):
I want chapter two .
Lee Aloni (24:56):
Oh, you're on.
Clive Taylor (25:03):
You're on.
I love you, guy.
Thanks again.
Lee Aloni (25:04):
All right, thank you for having me.
It was a pleasure being here.
It is my pleasure, all mypleasure.
Thank you, and we'll see youreal soon with Real Life with
Lee in South Florida, 24-7, 365.
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Lee Aloni (00:41):
Welcome everyone.
Hi there, I am Leea Loney, andthis is Real Life with Lea in
South Florida, 24-7, 365.
So glad you joined us.
Today we have a special guest,none other than my dear friend
Clive Taylor.
Hello, clive.
Clive Taylor (01:02):
Good morning Lea.
It's a pleasure to be here andI really enjoyed that intro.
Lee Aloni (01:06):
I'm so happy to hear that.
I'm glad you like that.
Clive Taylor (01:09):
Thank you, thank, you Thank you.
Lee Aloni (01:12):
So real life.
Real life is all about yes, I'ma realtor.
Let me just get that out there.
Disclaimer I'm a realtor.
Clive Taylor (01:20):
I didn't know this .
Yeah, I didn't know this.
She's here From the intro.
Lee Aloni (01:25):
Yeah, that's right, real.
Real means real life, not justreal estate, and that's the
basis of this entire podcast.
So today I'm really excited tointroduce you to my dear friend,
clive, in real life and in thestudio.
(01:45):
He is such a great friend.
We've known each other forabout five years now it seems
longer.
He seems like he's my brotherfrom another mother.
I love you and yeah, yes, I gotyou, I love it, I love it.
(02:06):
I love it.
And yeah, yes, I got you, Ilove it, I love it, I love it.
Anyway, so we're talking aboutreal life in South Florida and
the reason why I brought Cliveon is that he is you are, you
are the president.
Clive Taylor (02:18):
Yes, still president for now.
Things change rapidly in thisenvironment.
Lee Aloni (02:22):
Hey, you know life is all about change, but you know,
right now let's enjoy the rideHollywood Historical not
hysterical Hollywood HistoricalSociety right In downtown
Hollywood.
So I'm going to right now, andI'm going to let you go ahead
and introduce yourself.
Tell us a little bit about you,clive, and how you got involved
(02:44):
in the Hollywood HistoricalSociety.
Clive Taylor (02:48):
Thank you, leigh, for asking me to do this, by the
way, because I always likeopening my big mouth when it
involves history and stories ofSouth Florida in general.
My story starts in 1965 atBroward General at 5.15 pm on
December 4th Don't forget,that's my birthday Send cards
and letters on that day.
So I'm a native of SouthFlorida, which means I've now
(03:09):
reached the age where I can sayI remember when, for instance,
university Drive was a two-laneroad and there was cows on there
and people are like what youknow and so I grew up here.
Remember right.
Lee Aloni (03:23):
March 1965, I remember, Remember right March
1965.
Clive Taylor (03:28):
I remember we are now the present old coots of
this land that we tell theseyoung people what life was like.
And when I was young I heardthat from other people about
State Road 7 being andeverything, and I used to hear
people say everything ended atState Road 7.
I used to hear people sayeverything ended at State Road 7
.
So, growing up here, watchingthe march towards the Everglades
of development, and then theyfinally reached it right.
(03:50):
So that's it, you can't go anyfurther and you think, okay,
we're done, there's no morebuilding, they can't.
Well, no.
So we see now, since there's nomore vacant land, we see
redevelopment going on in thehistoric cores of our of our
cities, which is good and bad.
You really want people to livein the downtown and have a
walkable environment, but thatcomes at a cost of possibly
losing some historic structureswhich tell the story of south
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florida, which is not that old.
My interest in history, I think,began as a young age.
I had an aunt that lived in riovista and if you know the
neighborhood of rio vista whenwas a child, there was a lot
more original homes of thatneighborhood still standing and
I remember driving in mymother's car, looking out the
window, fascinated by thesestucco, rough stucco and
(04:35):
chimneys and the windows andjust the whole.
And my great aunt lived in ahouse that was sold and weren't
even sure what year it was built.
It had two fireplaces, it hadlittle nooks and crannies where
you could secret passageways andI was just enthralled by that.
And then in third grade, atPine Ridge elementary school, we
did a field trip to the KingCrominey house in Fort
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Lauderdale and I never forgotthat and I just, you know, I
don't know where it comes from.
Maybe those are the things thatinfluenced me.
And I got to an age where Icould become involved in the
historic community and I wasasked to serve on boards and I
got invited to be on the boardof the Hollywood Historical
Society and then I was nominatedvice president and that
(05:17):
president left and now I findmyself in the driver's seat of
that's history, as they say.
Lee Aloni (05:23):
What's that?
I said that's history as theysay oh, what's that?
Clive Taylor (05:28):
I said that's history, as they say, the rest
is history.
So, being such, I guess, a fanof history and to be in the seat
of the of the leadership ofhollywood historical society, I
feel like it's right where Ineed to be and I think, a
catalyst for all theseinvolvements that I'm doing and
I'm just going to shout out toChamber Leadership Hollywood
Chamber of Commerce greatestHollywood Chamber of Commerce
(05:49):
and their leadership program iswhere I met you and a lot of
other leaders in the communityand I got to tell you the
Hollywood Historical SocietyBoard is populated with quite a
few leadership alumni.
Lee Aloni (06:00):
I want to jump in.
I want to jump in because weare Leadership Hollywood class
of 42.
Clive Taylor (06:06):
Right on, come through.
Lee Aloni (06:07):
That's right.
That's where we met at theGreat Hollywood Chamber of
Commerce, and you and I are bothactive in Leadership Hollywood
program.
Still, I'm a day chair for theMedia Day and Health and Human
Services Day every year sincewe've graduated.
And what is your role there?
Clive Taylor (06:23):
I moved out of the steering committee and now I'm
the president of the leadershipfoundation.
So the chamber has created afoundation to separate the the
leadership, from the main partof the chamber, which is a 50136
.
This is a 5013c so we can raisemoney.
It was a really good move.
So that's why I'm stillinvolved the chamber and I'm
still on the board, and I gotelected to be the representative
(06:46):
for my class when I graduatedand I'm going to stay on.
Of course that was the hook.
Let's get on the board for oneyear, and then we'll like.
Lee Aloni (06:53):
I voted for you.
You had to be voted on by yourpeers, so so tell us a little
bit about the HollywoodHistorical Society, you know?
Clive Taylor (07:05):
in a nutshell, In a nutshell, this organization is
50 years old this year.
We started in 1974 by a groupof activists.
Pat Smith was the founder andshe led the charge in 1974 to
try to save the old HollywoodHills High School, which was an
incredible structure, like Isaid, that rough stucco exterior
(07:25):
that they did in the 20s.
It was a mission style school.
It was built by joseph young.
It was out in the middle ofnowhere when it was built in
1920s and that birthed thehollywood historical society
because the buildings werestarting.
That building was only 48 yearsold.
It was two years away frombeing on the national register
so unfortunately it tore it downbefore it was that bright beige
(07:46):
.
But people started to look backat that time at hollywood and
saw the rich inventory ofhistoric structures that we
still have left and thought youknow, it's time for historical
society.
We were not that old in 1974,we were under 50 years old at
that point the city.
So thank god for the women andthe residents that started this
organization back then becausethey started collecting stuff
(08:08):
that we would have lost forever.
There were people alive stillthat were there in the twenties
that we were able to do oralhistories with.
So we are now 50 years old.
We've done a lot in thecommunity.
We're housed in the Hammersteinhome.
Lee Aloni (08:24):
Tell us about the Hammerstein house.
I love it.
Oh, I'm in it now.
Oh, my God.
Clive Taylor (08:30):
We call him Ham.
That was his nickname Ham, andthey were pioneers in Hollywood
as well.
They came to Miami and followedJoseph Young's development in
Hollywood and decided to.
He actually worked for JosephYoung in sales selling the great
real estate boom of thetwenties and he decided that he
was going to stay here and hebuilt this home.
Lee Aloni (08:52):
I heard magical words .
I heard real estate boom, realestate.
Clive Taylor (08:55):
This whole entire city was built on the real
estate.
You know model that nobody wasdoing.
Hollywood is so unique becausethe promoter of our city, the
founder of our city, was amaster at sales and what he did
people are doing today.
He had a bus fleet, a boatfleet and he got people here on
(09:16):
trains and he would get you toHollywood up the boat from the
Miami River, give you the freelunch, hold you captive for like
seven hours and then take youon a tour.
It was the original timesharething he was doing that in the
20s, and so he lays this entire.
I mean, it was incredible.
So no other city in southflorida was growing like
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hollywood was because of hisadvertising arm and his sales
team.
He had a fleet sales but he got30 sales buses and he
advertised all over the country.
He started a publicationcompany where he made his own
magazines.
He advertised in SaturdayEvening Post Literary Digest.
So everybody up north waslooking right here between Miami
and Fort Lauderdale in the 20sand buying in Hollywood.
(09:59):
So Hammerstein was a part ofthat.
Hammerstein was a part of thatand he hires a very well-known
architect, bayard Lukens, whodid a lot of tropical modern
homes in South Florida inHollywood, designed South
Broward High Schoolstate-of-the-art South Broward
High School design at the timeand he built this tropical
modern home.
That is all original and whenHammerstein was getting older he
realized this was a specialhome and he donates it to the
(10:21):
city.
About the time the hollywoodhistorical society is coming
into an existence and the citydecides to let us have our
organization in this home and weopen it for tours and our
research center is located here.
So it was just a kismet,symbiotic thing that happened at
exactly the right moment intime so I have to interrupt you
there.
Lee Aloni (10:39):
You know I'm having this revelation right now.
I understand why.
You know I was born in chicagobut I moved here when I was five
.
I feel like I'm cheating if Isay I'm native but I am a
Floridian.
Clive Taylor (10:48):
You are cheating.
Lee Aloni (10:51):
Sorry, it's our little secret, it's our little
secret.
Anyway, come on, this hasreally shaped the person that I
am.
You know, I started out.
I wasn't always a realtor, Iwas a travel agent for about 10
years and it is so fascinatingin downtown Hollywood and all of
Hollywood and all of SouthFlorida the world too, hello.
(11:12):
But I understand where I got myroots from because you know the
beauty that we have down here.
It's unique to so many otherplaces and that's why people
love coming here.
And then when I got into realestate, I wow, I love the
architecture.
Clive Taylor (11:32):
That's exactly what you just said.
Lee Aloni (11:34):
Yeah.
Clive Taylor (11:34):
What the fascination for the rest of the
country of South Florida,because until the railroad came
in 1896, there was no way to gethere.
You had to take a stagecoach oryou took a ship that frequently
ran aground and sunk.
So once the railroad got hereand opened up, people like
there's a tropical wonderlandand the only tropical
environment in the whole countryis southeast florida.
(11:57):
So countries, beaches, thecaribbean, crystal clear blue
waters.
That is still present today andthat is what still gets people
to this part of the country.
Lee Aloni (12:09):
That's right.
And see, even though we'rehaving a heat wave today because
we are I'm still looking out mywindow and the sun is shining
and I'm loving it.
It's not gloomy, it's alwaysgreen and it's just.
It's a state of mind.
I love nothing more thanwearing my t-shirt and my
leggings and my flip flops.
I don't have to worry about, ohmy God, how many layers I'm
(12:30):
going to have to wear today anddo I need the umbrella, and you
know so many other things toworry about.
This is so relaxing andpeaceful and it's just a happy
place.
Clive Taylor (12:41):
It is and it makes it so much.
Lee Aloni (12:46):
Yeah, and it makes it so much easier for me to I
don't like the word sell, but tosell it to my customers.
It sells itself, it just lendsitself to.
You know, it's the vibe, and Ilove the architecture, and so
I'm going to bring it right backto Hammerstein House right now,
because I remember touring itwith you a few years ago.
I'd like to get in there withyou another time.
(13:06):
We'll do it, this is not justthe one and done here, clive.
Clive Taylor (13:10):
Yeah, I'd have the keys anytime.
Lee Aloni (13:14):
So go ahead, and if you want to tell us more about
Hammerstein House, anything orWell, what makes this house so
unique is the fact that it wasbuilt in 1935.
Clive Taylor (13:24):
And there are structures here in 1935.
What makes this extremelyunique and I don't think it
exists anywhere else, because Iknow a few houses that were just
like this, but now they've beengutted is it had one owner and
the owner was the had it builtand it is 100, completely
original.
Inside.
The kitchen is 1935, thecabinets the counters.
(13:45):
Yeah, bathrooms have 1935fixtures sinks, toilets, tubs,
tile nirvana it's a time capsule, so not only do you get to see
the exterior features, you comein and there's this incredible
clay tile with little insets ofdifferent cool, almost like
Aztec design tiles in there.
There's an open beam, a peckycypress cathedral roof with this
(14:09):
fireplace.
It's so unique and that's whypeople come here to visit us,
because it is a time capsulefrom 1935.
In 1935, there wasn't a lot ofbuilding because it was the
depths of the Depression.
You had to have money to builda house in 1935.
So there's really not a lot ofbuilding.
It was not a building boom.
The building boom really cameafter World War II.
Lee Aloni (14:28):
Is there?
Okay, so a little twist here, alittle plot twist.
Is there any kind of scandalous, you know, scandalous about
hollywood or the hammersteinhouse or anything you know?
Clive Taylor (14:40):
let's spice it up well you know, I've heard people
mention this on tour so I'mjust gonna say it.
Okay, I talked, I talked.
Listen, I've been in this towna long time.
I'm a press control and I gointo a lot of houses in this
town and I went into somepioneer houses and we would talk
about the old days because I'minterested.
And one thing that popped upbefore I was even interested in
being in this organization wasthe hammersteins, especially
(15:03):
vera, were known for beingfriendly, not like armed robbery
, but being kind of club ofmaniacs and they would go to
parties and you'd like to haveto watch your silver, or they
could go shopping and peoplehave told this story so I'm not
saying anything.
I shouldn't say, okay, youshould advertise a lot.
But uh, this one gentleman,ralph springer, who was a
(15:24):
pioneer family they were here inthe 20s and they had springer
car company, a springer cabcompany and bus company before
broward county had a bus servicebut hollywood had their own bus
service and it was a springerfamily.
They had gas stations off andhe told me that Vera would go
into shops downtown and thenthey would.
Just she would walk out withstuff and you know they would.
(15:45):
The owners of the shop wouldjust send the invoice to
Hammerstein.
They're like, okay, this iswhat your wife took.
Lee Aloni (15:50):
This is what she took .
Clive Taylor (15:53):
They were very nice people, but you know, some
people are fuffle maniacs.
It's just like what's the bigdeal?
She paid for it in the endbecause they got invoiced for it
.
So that's a little fun tidbit.
And Victor Diabonke, who wastheir attorney he'll tell you
that all day long.
Yeah, I guess we just have alittle blip, a little blip.
Lee Aloni (16:15):
I need to drink a little tea, so yeah, you should
have some of that coffee.
Clive Taylor (16:18):
The other scandalous thing, and it's
really not too scandalous Tea.
Lee Aloni (16:20):
It's tea In honor of tradition.
Clive Taylor (16:23):
I wish I had some tea.
Lee Aloni (16:25):
Oh, clive, I'm so sorry.
Next time We'll meet in person,I'll treat you to tea, yeah.
Clive Taylor (16:33):
So Clarence and Vera are still in the home.
Both of their urns are in theFlorida room.
Oh, so they are, you know,resting peacefully in this home.
They loved it so much theywanted to stay here, so we have
them here if you'd like to visitthem as well.
That's not really a scandal.
It's just a little factoid.
Lee Aloni (16:51):
I'll come and say, hi , yeah, I can go get them.
No, it's okay, it's fine,they'll keep.
They'll wait.
It's been a long time, butthey're fine.
Let them rest in peace.
It's fine, okay, so any trivia,anything you want to throw out?
Clive Taylor (17:09):
there.
Yeah, you know what makesHollywood trivia.
Yes, so we have three circlesin Hollywood.
That's right.
We were supposed to have four.
One did not get completed, buthalf of it is still there.
Half of the circle is stillthere.
(17:32):
It was on the original plaquefor Hollywood.
I won't tell you the answer ifyou don't want me to, but people
can do a little research andthey can find where that fourth
circle was going to be.
Lee Aloni (17:44):
I need to know now.
Clive Taylor (17:46):
You need to know now.
Lee Aloni (17:47):
Now you need to know Right now, but first tell us the
other three.
I know them, but go ahead.
Clive Taylor (17:53):
Oh, the other three circles Young.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Circle.
Clive Taylor (17:55):
Yeah, of course, City Hall Circle and what's now
known as Presidential Circle,which used to be known as
Hollywood Hills Inn.
And I don't think that circlehad a name at that point.
But shortly after most peopledon't realize Presidential
Circle had an old, beautifulhotel like the Hollywood Beach
(18:17):
Hotel.
It was a sister hotel, itwasn't as tall, but it was this
big, beautiful, long structurewith domes on both sides and a
central tower.
What year is that from Pardonme.
Lee Aloni (18:28):
What year was that from?
I don't remember that.
Clive Taylor (18:30):
Built in 1926.
And what happened in 1926?
The devastating hurricane.
So unfortunately, that's wheneverything crashed.
The hotel sits empty for acouple of years and Riverside
Military Academy from Georgiagets there.
Lee Aloni (18:44):
That's what I remember.
Clive Taylor (18:45):
Yeah, get wind of this old building and decide
this was a big thing becausethey were looking for a southern
home.
Whatever city scored thatRiverside military, it was huge
because it was a depression andthis was going to bring money
and resources to the city thatgot it.
So they set up shop at theHollywood Hills Inn and they
were there until the 80s theRiverside Military Academy.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
I remember it, it was their winner home.
Clive Taylor (19:08):
So it became known as Riverside Military or
Riverside Circle, andunfortunately they decided not
to come south anymore because itdoesn't get that cold in
Georgia anymore.
The growing orange is up thereand they demolished this
incredible structure that wasbuilt by Young and put up this
glass gleaming structure whicharchitecturally is kind of
interesting, but it's not theRiverside Inn.
So those are the three circles.
Lee Aloni (19:30):
All right, so the suspense is killing me.
What is number four?
Clive Taylor (19:35):
One more little trivia I recently found out
within the last year each circleis exactly 10 acres each circle
including north and south lake.
So at the heads of the lakethere's a circle yeah, 10 acres.
Each circle that was put inhollywood was 10 acres.
So the fourth land circle wasgoing to be in Liberia.
(19:58):
Liberia was laid out withJoseph Young's original plan for
the black community becausethey were not allowed to live
within the white community.
What did Joseph Young do?
He created a mirror layout ofdowntown Hollywood in Liberia,
including a circle with the parkin the circle and a hotel, just
like our Parkview Hotel onYonge Circle.
(20:20):
Unfortunately, everything kindof collapsed before it got built
.
But half of the circle gotbuilt and I think it's on 24th
Avenue.
If you go north you'll see thisroad just goes like this and
it's a half a circle.
Lee Aloni (20:34):
And if you just feel like it feel true, feel true,
you're taking me on a field trip, that's it.
I have to see it.
Liberia was built.
Clive Taylor (20:41):
Something else Most people don't realize that
Liberia was laid out by Young.
He paved the streets, he ranwater, ran electricity and
donated land for the blackcommunity to build churches and
schools.
There weren't a lot ofdevelopers that were thinking
about the black community inthis way in the 20s, and that's
(21:04):
what he did for the for theearly segment, it was Jim Crow,
so, um, I think he was a littlebit more socially liberal in
that sense and that he felt like, if I have to separate the
races, they're going to havejust as good a community as the
other part of the population,which is exactly what he did wow
, this is Wow.
Lee Aloni (21:17):
I really do want to go see it with you.
That would be really wonderful.
So there's so much to talkabout, but we'll be here all day
because I could talk with youforever.
Clive Taylor (21:27):
I'm just getting started.
You're not saying anything.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
I know, I know I love talking with you.
Lee Aloni (21:31):
You really are like my other brother.
Clive Taylor (21:32):
Are we out of time already?
Lee Aloni (21:35):
Yeah, we're coming to the end here, but I wanted to
ask you about any upcomingevents for the Hollywood
Historical Society and how wecan get involved.
Clive Taylor (21:43):
So you can go on our website and you can join our
organization and you will be onour mailing list and you can
follow us on Facebook and nowInstagram, and we do have
welcome volunteers.
So if you're interested involunteering, please contact us.
We'll get you set up as avolunteer and when we have
events we can call on you, andwe are going to have a big event
(22:04):
in November to celebrate our 50year anniversary.
We're talking about closing thestreet off, we're going to have
food trucks, we're going tohave live music, we're going to
have so excited and we're goingto try to organize a scavenger
hunt that will take people allover the city to learn about the
history of Hollywood.
Lee Aloni (22:21):
And then the great finish will be here.
I love that.
That's the adventure.
I love it, I love it.
And November, it's so coldeverywhere else.
But, wow, we'll be Nice andcool and happy.
We'll be without our shirts on.
Still, oh, someone I know, well, me, yeah, well, maybe I'll
wear a bathing suit, you know,just kind of flaunting it to the
(22:43):
people, my family in Chicago.
I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry.
Anything, before we go now, canyou just tell me something real
about the Hollywood HistoricalSociety?
Or about Clive Taylor, real?
Do you want me to share withyou what I'm getting at here?
Clive Taylor (22:59):
Yeah.
Lee Aloni (23:00):
Yeah, what is it?
R?
Real?
R means it relates to me, toour community, to you, to my
customers, family and friends.
E energy.
It's the vibe of the city whichis Hollywood, and the vibe of
the people.
Yeah, a ask and learn.
Learn about our story, learnabout our history and L live,
(23:22):
love, laugh, enjoy oursurroundings, enjoy the beauty,
explore, explore nature and allthe architecture and all the
businesses.
You know restaurants and thingsthat greater Hollywood has to
offer.
You know restaurants and thingsthat greater Hollywood has to
offer and and just buildconnecting and lifelong
friendships, like you and I haveso through the leadership
(23:42):
program.
Clive Taylor (23:42):
It's an excellent program to join and and you
mentioned, greater HollywoodPeople come to Hollywood because
they know there's somethingspecial about the way that it's
laid out.
Is the city beautiful, and sohaving the boulevard with the
circles and the white sidewalksand how everything is
thoughtfully laid out is a citybeautiful, and so having the
boulevard with the circles andthe white sidewalks and how
everything is thoughtfully laidout is what makes us unique in
the south floor landscape and I.
People are attracted.
(24:03):
They're not clear why.
They're just like I really likeit and they don't really know
why, but it's that subtleinfluence that attracts people
to our city I love our broadwalk.
Lee Aloni (24:12):
I mean, there's nothing like it anywhere else.
Clive Taylor (24:14):
The only one in the entire state, the only broad
walk in the entire state is.
And that's Joseph Young.
He wanted people to have accessto the beach.
He didn't want you looking atthe back of the house or the
hotel, and that was his bigmission.
Is public access for people tohave access to things that they
don't normally have access to.
Lee Aloni (24:33):
My turtles.
I have turtle love.
I do I love my turtles.
Yeah, that's right.
So what's your website?
Hollywood Historical Society.
Clive Taylor (24:41):
Historical Society .
Just Google that and we'll comeright up.
Lee Aloni (24:44):
Okay, that's wonderful.
Well, Clive, thank you so much.
This has been such an uplifting, enriching, enjoyable, exciting
fun.
That's not long enough for me,I want more.
Clive Taylor (24:54):
I want chapter two .
Lee Aloni (24:56):
Oh, you're on.
Clive Taylor (25:03):
You're on.
I love you, guy.
Thanks again.
Lee Aloni (25:04):
All right, thank you for having me.
It was a pleasure being here.
It is my pleasure, all mypleasure.
Thank you, and we'll see youreal soon with Real Life with
Lee in South Florida, 24-7, 365.
Watch for us on YouTube and allyour social media dials.
Talk to you soon.
Ciao, for now.
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