June 25, 2025 • 61 mins
What happens when the security blanket of corporate success starts feeling more like a straitjacket? Dustin "Dusty Rhodes" discovered the answer when he traded his HVAC sales career for a microphone and the electric energy of 80s tribute bands.
This conversation takes us through Dustin's remarkable journey from climbing the corporate ladder to embracing his true calling as a performer. After fifteen years in a respectable but unfulfilling career, complete with company vehicle and expense account, life delivered a series of devastating blows—divorce, COVID, and the heartbreaking loss of his brother to addiction. Rather than crumbling under this pressure, Dustin found redemption by reconnecting with his dormant passion for music.
The path wasn't easy. After a decade-long hiatus from performing (following an ultimatum from his "practice wife"), Dustin's first rehearsals back were humbling experiences. But he persevered, discovered his authentic voice specialized in the growling, high-energy style of 80s rock legends, and built a fulfilling second act. Today, he performs regularly with bands covering icons like Quiet Riot, Twisted Sister, Guns N' Roses, and Poison throughout Southern California.
What makes Dustin's story particularly compelling is his perspective on passion and perseverance. He doesn't sugarcoat the realities—from four-hour sets to minimal pay—but emphasizes how the electric connection with audiences and bandmates makes it all worthwhile. With his wife Amy supporting him at every show (complete with spiral-curled hair and makeup transformations), he's created a balanced life that honors both family and creative fulfillment.
Whether you're contemplating your own career pivot or simply appreciate authentic conversations about finding purpose after hardship, this episode offers both inspiration and practical wisdom about the messy, beautiful journey toward living a life that feels truly your own.
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
Welcome to Real People, Real Life.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Dustin, thanks for coming out.
Man, Dustin, Stop aka.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Dusty.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Rose.
How did that come about?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Well, I've had a lot of names, some you can't say.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
We'll keep this clean .
These have stuck though.
Yeah.
Yeah, dusty Dubrow would beanother one, but yeah, the Dusty
Rhodes thing is my.
I said Dusty Rose.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
It's Dusty Rhodes.
Look at me, dusty.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Rhodes.
I threw another name now.
Now we got another one to getout of the list.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Yeah, we Rose, it's dusty roads.
Look at dusty road throughanother name Now.
Now we got another one yeah,yeah, we're, we're just we're
just stacking them out.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Yeah, tough on that.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
DMV paperwork.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Yeah, you're right, but hey, aka, aka, aka, um, but
yeah, man, that's my stage namefor my rock bands, and you know
my alter ego when I'm not adaddy at home there you go.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
So I've known you.
I was thinking about this.
I've known you, Pat, over 20years.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
It's just hard to believe.
Well, it just flies.
I mean you got kids, you know.
I mean it just seems likeyesterday they were born, next
thing, you know, believe, yeah,well, it just flies.
I mean you got kids, you know.
I mean it just seems likeyesterday they were born next
thing, you know.
You know it's time just flies.
But you know, I met you.
Obviously people that listen tothe podcast know I'm in the
hvac business and I met you inthat world.
Uh, you being on the supplierside, me being on the service
(02:01):
side, working for a majorsupplier here in San Diego, and
yeah, Seems like a long time ago.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
It wasn't that long ago.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
But what's interesting, though and we talk
about business and customerservice you always just
understood and took care of thecustomers that were the
contractors, including myself.
Never had you know.
If I had an issue, I would callyou, you'd take care of it.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Just doing my job you know.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Well, people don't get that.
They don't understand, whenthey're on the other side of the
counter behind the register,that that is.
Their job Is to sell and totake care of the customer, which
is the contractor in your case.
But you know, we became friends.
I always respected you and Ialways thought, you know, you're
(02:52):
a good dude Likewise.
Well, of course, that just goeswithout saying.
You know so, like me, you knowyou're just cruising through
life, right?
You know, when I met you, youknow, I had a business, you had
a career, I had a practice wife.
You ended up with a practicewife and, um, you know, we
(03:13):
learned lessons and had kidswith with uh, with them, um, but
you weren't living.
I mean, you're living a goodlife, but not the life that you
want.
Now, as everybody can tell,this guy's a rocker and we're
going to throw some stuff up onuh on the podcast video.
(03:34):
Um, I've been to the uh hisshows, a couple of them
Fantastic.
You do cover cover music,correct.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Cover music, uh and full on tributes, Yep.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
And give the audience an example.
I've seen it.
I'm hoping we can get somevideo or something, or at least
link to some of the stuff thatyou've done, because it is
impressive.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Well, we do first of all backtrack into Johnstone.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
I literally thought I was going to be working there
forever.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Well, you moved up too.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
I mean, you moved up from, I think, warehouse to
store manager to outside sales.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yep Climbed the ladder.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
I had all my own perks company vehicle, credit
card, laptop phone, gas card andyou know, one day I just turned
it all in.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
That's a job, it's a great, it's a security blanket.
I call it Okay, so you havethis security blanket and I've
had one of those where you'reworking for a company, they see
how you're excelling, they'removing you up quickly, they're
paying you well, but in the backof your mind it's like damn,
the alarm clock just went off.
I gotta go to work oh yeah,dude.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
I got to the point where I hated getting up.
I was like what am I gonna you?
Know, um, you had to fill out alog of where you went, who you
saw, and, uh, I tried to get ascreative as I could, fill in
that thing out to you withoutreally having to do anything.
(05:16):
You know, like I'd send anemail and I'd log that, or
whatever.
Um, but it wasn't your passion.
I mean no it wasn't my passion,but it was.
It was something I'd been doing, you know, for for 15 years
until I walked away from it.
You know, and don't get mewrong, I didn't just one day go
I'm I'm just going to resign.
(05:37):
I had lots of things happen inmy life that that changed it, um
, that I never saw coming and Ididn't have to do that anymore.
So I was fortunate and blessedenough to be able to do that.
It's just crazy, looking backand walking away from 15 years
(06:03):
and all these perks that comewith the job, but I was also
working for my ex-father-in-law,so it felt good to not have
that, you know, hanging over meanymore.
You know, nobody's the boss ofme anymore.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
You negotiated that precarious situation well, as
well as, I think, anybodypossibly could.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Well, nobody can believe that I kept my job.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
I couldn't, I could not believe it and not only keep
your job, but you did it for afew.
What, almost three or fouryears post, correct?
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was years.
And um, you know that, my boss,uh everett, um, you know he, he
loves my grandkids, or hisgrandkids, he loves my children
and he, as much as I think hemay have wanted to, just, in
spite, knock on my ass, hedidn't do that because he knew
(07:04):
it would hurt the kids.
So, he's a good guy.
No, I've always thought Nothingagainst him.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Everett actually bailed me out back in the 2008
nightmare the housing crisis.
However, it was within the HVACbusiness.
It fell into that because I wasin residential yeah, and he
would help me out like, look, godo the job.
And when you're done with thejob, you know let's, you know
let's settle up, and I wasalways good for it.
(07:30):
Actually, he only did it onceor twice, but you know, he
helped me get on my feet until Igot smart and got out of the
residential business and wentinto commercial.
Yeah, you negotiated thatsituation well and for years and
I was pretty surprised.
Let's go back in time.
Let's talk about this love youhave for 80s glam rock.
(07:56):
What do they call it glam rock?
I forget what they called itwhere these groups like Poison
and Guns.
N' Roses.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Glam rock, hair Metal , hair Metal, I don't know what
else.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Well, I mean just where I mean.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
It's alive and well today.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Long hair tight pants makeup the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Yeah, yeah, my, I really didn't even know that I
could sing, so I'm born.
I was born in 80, so I got thatglam rock, but I was still you
know, really young um.
My dad was always 70s, so themusic's in my family.
My grandfather is a conductorin.
(08:39):
Ohio.
Um, um, I, I started actingwhen I was a kid.
I loved being an entertainer.
I would always, you know, puton shows and stuff like that for
my family um, which my daughterdoes now, which is awesome.
But I didn't even know I couldsing until I, you know, was old
(09:01):
enough to go to the karaoke barsand then I started singing Back
.
Then it was just like BillieJean and stuff like that,
anything I could do to get girls.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
They like a confident man behind the microphone.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Yeah, and then one day somebody was like you should
be in a band.
So this was in Arizonarizonaearly 2000s, and we were doing,
we were just doing stuff that Ijust followed his lead, you know
.
So I was singing uh weird stuff, man, like stuff that wasn't
(09:39):
for me, like, uh, like journey,journey is not for me.
Um.
So then I just started umpolishing up my you know, my, my
, my voice, um, being honestwith myself, what's in my
(10:00):
wheelhouse?
Uh, cause, I got a lot of of ofbad, uh feedback, like, oh, he
can't sing, he needs singinglessons.
And it's because I wasn'tsinging.
What I was, you know, designedto sing.
It's like a growly, like KevinDubrow, you know, like, come on
feel the noise.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
We'll get wet, wet, wet.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
You know what I mean love it.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
So that's like uh, figured, I, figured it out you
know, after a while, you know,you know it's funny is when you
know that american idol and allthose, those talent shows I
would, I would watch these goesby.
All the bands I absolutely lovewould get booed off the stage
because, quote, unquote, theycan't sing.
(10:47):
It's like no, they can, it'sjust doesn't fall into that.
You know that perfect taughtsinging lessons type.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I was, I just justfiguring it out.
You know, like I didn't, Idon't know what I was doing.
So, um, now I can't, like Ican't imagine not doing it.
You know I love it so much, uh,being able to go out there with
with they're like my brothers,you know my bandmates and um, so
(11:19):
many great places that we weget booked.
You know, uh, the guy with HaloEffect, mike Harper.
I've never been with somebodythat books so many shows at so
many different places.
It's just incredible.
It's such a great opportunityto meet people and other
musicians, other local musicians.
There's so much talent out herein San Diego and Orange and LA.
(11:44):
It's insane.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Are you guys focusing most in Southern California or
are you guys getting out of thestate?
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Yeah it's, it's primarily here We'll.
We'll get on a plane.
We'll be lucky enough to hit acasino or two every year, you
know.
The last one we went to wasthis was for quiet riot but this
was up in uh feather fallscasino.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Is that chico?
Yeah, well, the casinos arewhere it's at for even uh a
listers out there.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
I mean seinfeld, the comedians, they're all hitting
the casinos now that's justwhere it's at yeah, that other
one up up in orange yamava, yeah, yeah oh my gosh serious
artists in.
We played there at their littlerock and bruise place.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Yeah, I see their billboards.
It's like really yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Wow, oh my God, they're like Carrie Underwood's
going there now.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Yeah, and she's actually.
We just came back from Arizonadriving up and I see her
billboard.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
She's going to be at the Aqua Cal you know the aqua
caliente or something like that,another casino, but yeah, the
casinos are getting a-listers,um, that that's, they're driving
the business, they're drivingthe entertainment.
My dream dude would be like if,if quiet, the real quiet, right
because they're still playingif they call and they're like we
need a new singer, like thatmovie rock star that's the only
way that things get better forme right now, like in musically,
your voice covers a lot ofthese bands from the 80s that
(13:12):
are resurging.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
So everything from the 80s, uh, is now?
There's money in that.
Even from the wardrobesfreaking the mullet is coming
back.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
You know how many mullets that I see now the 80s
are so cool, man like, uh, my,my son's friends are just like
your dad was born in 80, youknow.
And then that that cobra kaishow came out and I think kind
of like ignited that whole feverfor these kids.
They love the 80s, dude, the80s are immortal.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
it's huge and the 80s dude the 80s are immortal.
It's huge.
And the 80s rock bands arecoming back around.
I mean, look, with youmentioned Journey earlier and
that's not your voice.
However, a major, mega late 70s80s band, oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Dude, that guy can sing, Anybody that can sing
Steve Perry.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Well, that one guy I don't know his name name, but he
can sing steve perry yeah sothat's.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
That's impressive dude like and then now um queen
with the adam, landberg withqueen.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
So and I haven't actually heard.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Uh, you know I love queen.
As far as the original band, um, I haven't really dived into
adam's version of it, but thejourney version is crazy.
Um, it would be great.
Uh, I mean it could happen foryou, but I've seen you perform.
It's fun to watch.
(14:38):
You actually did my 50thbirthday party.
Thank you very much.
Um, everybody gave great, greatfeedback.
Um, so, as a youngster, youknow, you kind of got into, you
know, doing these bands, youkind of got a feel for it, you
got a love for it, um, and thenlife kicks in right, kind of hey
(14:59):
, it's time to stop playing.
Okay, it's time to grow up andand, um, you know, get married,
have some kids, get a career,yep, um, and you know, and
that's all respectable and youdid a fantastic job.
You know, getting that careerand life hit its ups and downs
won't go into too much of that,as it does for everybody.
But then you kind of hit somerough patches, man, um, some,
(15:23):
some, some things that a lot ofpeople don't have to deal with.
Um, we talked about this but,uh, you know, you, you had a
brother who ran into some issueswith.
Was it drugs or alcohol, Idon't quite remember yeah all
the above?
yeah, and unfortunately he lostthat battle he did, yep, he uh.
(15:48):
So shortly after, it was aboutsix years ago, right shortly
after covid.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Yeah, yes, I, I got.
I got a call out of nowhere anduh, they found him, you know,
in his apartment and um, wereyou close?
Uh, yeah, we were very close.
You know, we were two yearsapart older the oldest one, you
know um my only brother.
I've got a little sister too,but yeah, that that's a call.
(16:16):
Uh still can't believe happenedum the the sad part was is that
he, he was alone, you know, fora while Um you know uh fentanyl
as well, took him down, so thatis uh unaware Was he aware that
(16:37):
it was fentanyl, or or?
he you know, he just didn't.
Uh, the addiction was toostrong.
He didn't.
He was like, well, if it's inthere, it probably won't kill me
.
I don't know what the hell hewas thinking.
You know he did.
He got a little crazy towardsthe last couple months of his
(16:58):
life, which is why I think a lotof people ignored him.
He didn't hear from him.
It wasn't that big of a deal,why I think a lot of people
ignored him.
You didn't hear from him, itwasn't that big of a deal.
But yeah, dude, we, we had togo out to Arizona and me and my
buddies out there friends I grewup with in high school you know
we had to move his stuff out ofhis apartment and it was.
(17:20):
You could smell him in there.
You know it'd been like a week.
You could smell them in there.
You know it'd been like a week.
Uh, so that was.
That was a very challengingthing to deal with you know, and
that's.
It happened immediately after,uh, my divorce, so it was kind
of uh and COVID, so it was.
(17:42):
It was a test, you know, butafter a while I've got to pull
myself out of it.
I've got three kids, so I can'tfail them.
I can't control my brother'sdecisions.
(18:02):
That he made Tough for an olderbrother though yeah, it's tough
, man.
I tell my wife all the time ifyou, if you think I'm funny you
should have met him.
This kid, he should have been astand-up comedian.
You know he should have been.
I wish you could have met him,I would have loved to met him
(18:24):
yeah.
You probably wouldn't beinterested in me anymore.
Probably not.
I'm sure he outshines you.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
That's a nice thing to say about your brother and
I'm sure, knowing you, I'm surehe was a fantastic character and
person.
But you get caught in thosedownward spirals, you know, then
you start pushing people awaybut I didn't even think about
that, Dustin so we come out of,we're in COVID which was just
(18:52):
insane Going through a divorce,so it's basically a one, two,
three punch on you and you'vegot kids that you've got to.
Basically, you know, try tonormalize life for them.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
Yeah, and I felt so guilty, you know, because, uh,
my, my ex wife practice wife.
Yeah, but she a hundred percenthad every right to divorce me.
I was not a good husband, youknow?
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Um, again, that's what we call it A practice.
Yeah, you know, again that'swhat we call it a practice.
Yeah, you know, I have topractice and learn how bad you
are.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
So I was riding that guilt trip.
I felt like the the big, likethe biggest loser to my kids.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
But now, like, all that's behind me and my kids
don't even remember.
They were young enough wherethey don't even really remember.
So things are a lot better nowbut back then, dude, you know
I'm thinking like I don't evenwant to like live.
(20:04):
You know I was embarrassed togo to work as I worked for her
dad, so the only thing that thatreally pulled me out of it was
meeting Amy, who's now my wife,and reconnecting with with an
(20:26):
old guitar player of mine, andagain, this is during COVID.
But hey, dude, I really wouldlike to start a project with you
.
Since backpedaling, I hadpreviously quit when I got
married Because my practice wifegave me an ultimatum no rock
(20:47):
and roll for you, boy.
She was like I'm pregnant and ifyou're gonna stay with the band
, then I'm out.
So I I I left the band, so Ihad like 10 years off and I
called this guy back out ofnowhere I just call him in the
blue and right away we startedrehearsing um some of these
(21:07):
little practice studios.
They didn't really follow COVIDrules, but how did it feel?
Speaker 3 (21:14):
So, when you called him and he says, hey, yeah,
dustin, come on out, we're goingto go out to this little
practice studio, whatever.
Yeah, oh, we'll just rehearse.
How did that feel the firsttime you walked in there after
10 years?
Speaker 4 (21:26):
Oh, it felt great.
Yeah, I bet it did it feltgreat.
Yeah, I bet it felt great, butI'll tell you what my voice
wasn't no wasn't what it isreally no, you take 10 years off
.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
I mean um did he look at you sideways going?
Speaker 4 (21:37):
what sorry he always looked at me sideways.
He knows who he is.
He's still a friend of mine himand I, him and I have had, uh,
we butted heads a lot of thetimes.
Guitar players and singers buttheads, um, but uh, but yeah,
that felt great man getting inthere and uh, we had some random
(21:59):
drummer that he scraped up and,um, and another buddy of mine,
pete audillo, on bass and bass,and we would start playing,
figuring out what songs we weregoing to do, ended up playing at
some place called the Kraken.
The Kraken During COVID whenthey first started to trickle
(22:22):
things back together and open itup.
And we're playing outside onthe patio and it was just weird,
man, those times and thosetents.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
All entertainers.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
I'm so glad that's behind us, my gosh dude.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
The comedians that tried to put shows on during
COVID where the audience had towear masks, said you can't play
the audience, you have no cluewhat their facial expressions
are.
This is the worst, worstfeeling in the world, yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Dude a lot of local artists and performers, like
they called it, quits, you know.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Businesses too, After COVID.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
You know they thought first who knows when things
were ever going to?
You know open, covid.
You know they thought firstthat who knows when things were
ever gonna?
you know open back up again anduh you know, like people that
have been doing it for 20 or 30years, they're they're tired of
it.
You know, I've been doing itfor an in total 20.
So like 15 on, and now where amI at, like don't know.
(23:29):
But anyway, there's, there'stimes where I'm like, oh man, I
don't know if I really want tokeep doing this.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
It's because it's hard so before the podcast, we
were talking about this rightyou know the audience sees the
two hour three hour set.
Heck, you were telling me, youguys got some four-hour sets,
which is insane.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Yeah, most of them are actually.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Yeah, like a two-hour set.
And in their mind they just seethe glamour.
Right here he is.
He just woke up, he comes out,he rocks it.
Give me a rock sound, give me asing.
He does the.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Hello St Louis.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Yeah, and you know, he just woke up, rolls out, he
rocks for two hours and he's outof there Some guys do that.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
Actually, we just play with the Motley Crue
tribute.
I'm pretty sure that's whatthey do.
You know the yes, you'reabsolutely right.
You know the yes, you'reabsolutely right.
And sometimes you got to dosound check two hours before you
(24:39):
even go on.
So now you're there, you'replaying for four hours and
you've got breakdown after thatand you got to be there two
hours earlier.
Your day is shot.
You know what?
Speaker 1 (24:48):
I mean.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
And a lot of times you're playing with five guys.
You don't get paid a lot ofmoney.
You know, if you're doing thisfor the money, you know don't,
Because you're going to behomeless very fast, you know
again I'm blessed enough.
Now where I'm, I'm comfortablefinancially, um, and I don't
(25:15):
have to work so I can focus allon this.
And I, I, I remember doing thiswhile I was working and, uh,
looking back, I'm like I can'tbelieve I did that.
I must love it that much.
So every time I feel like, ohman, I don't want to do this.
It's like I'm only getting $200for eight hours and I'm tired
(25:39):
and I just want to sit at home.
You know, have sex with my wifeall day.
I don't want to drive all theway to Orange County.
Uh, we always end up pullingtogether and going.
You know, all day I don't wantto drive all the way to Orange
County.
We always end up pullingtogether and going.
And Amy comes to me.
She comes with me to every show.
I can't imagine a bettersupport system than that.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
She's fantastic.
She gets the audience going.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Half the time they're there to see her.
I swear I mean.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
You think I invited you over here yeah, the podcast.
I put her over in the cornerhere.
I keep uh she is, she is she's,she's adorable, she's, she's a,
she's, she's a really goodwoman yeah I enjoy, I've enjoyed
her company, she's, she's avery um you guys, you complement
each other well, just like mywife, and I do I mean?
Speaker 4 (26:27):
look.
She is very much responsiblefor where I'm at today,
especially my look.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Hmm.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Yeah, she encouraged me to grow my hair out.
You know she puts this eyemakeup on me.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
I told you to come prepared.
I said come prepared, dressedlike it's a show.
This is, yeah, I'm justdisappointed you don't have that
.
The poison, was it maybe the?
I said come prepared, I'm justdisappointed you don't have that
poison hat.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
I didn't think about bringing that hat.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Here's the picture.
I'm putting it up right now soyou guys can see it Guy's a rock
star man.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
I've had people offer me a lot of money for that hat.
I can't give it up.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Well, you know, you described something, dustin.
That is why most people give upand get nowhere on their goals
and their life, so they get.
You know, they call it thehedonic treadmill, but the idea
behind it is you come up with anidea, you're all excited about
it.
It could be a relationship, itcould be a business, it could be
(27:24):
the music thing.
It could be this podcast.
It could be a business.
It could be the music thing.
It could be this podcast.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
The problem is is that inevitably the common
denominator is?
Speaker 3 (27:38):
hard-ass work, yeah, like with anything, yeah, and
when you're having a bad day,and bad days come, you know, the
excuses start coming and you'relike do I need to put out
another one?
Do I really want to do it?
Oh gosh, I got to drive down tothe studio or I got to drive to
Orange County.
You know, you got to say no,I'm going to just do this.
(28:02):
I made a commitment yes, nothaving a great day today, but I
made a commitment and I have to,you know, achieve this goal.
Sure, achieving goals requireshard work, sometimes a lot of
sacrifice, sometimes suffering.
But if you're doing it becauseyou internally just have and I'm
not a big fan of the wordpassion, because people just
think that you have to be alwaysexcited about it, okay, passion
(28:25):
and I'll think of a way todescribe it better, and I
haven't thought of it, but it'salmost part of you.
It's that part of you that, youknow, makes you get up in the
morning when you don't want toand say I've got a commitment to
this.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
You know it's like for your kids for example right
right, you know, daddy get upyeah, well, you, you know you
love your kids always, butsometimes you don't like them.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Right, right.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Not at 530 in the morning and when you're not
liking them you're stillobligated to it and the overall
blessings from it and or whatyou get from it, If you found
what you want to do that's.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
This is where so many people fail in business and in
their their goals and life,Cause they just think it's going
to be some happy party 100% ofthe time it's not no, no, um, I
will say man, like when, when uh, the show starts, like I
(29:26):
wouldn't be anywhere else, youknow wouldn't want to be
anywhere else, like I, I justlove, um, the interaction with
my, my band members.
You know, um, it's like you'reon a team pretty much.
You know you don't want to letdown the team, you don't want to
cancel last minute cause you'rejust not feeling like you're up
(29:49):
to it or you're hung over orwhatever.
You know there's going to beconsequences.
The venue is not going to hireyou back, you know you're
unreliable.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
It is a job, it is a business.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Yeah, it is and it's look, I'm 45.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
So really I'm not, I'm not trying to party too hard
anymore.
Didn't know they let people getthat old in this country?
Speaker 4 (30:13):
Well, I mean, the hair helps hide the age a little
bit.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
My wife paints my hair, so it works out all right
for both of us.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Amy spiral curls mine for the Kevin Dubrow.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
That's just adorable.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
Yeah, we like to have our moments together.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
I like it, we're like .
We're like, they're little, uh,they're little dolls when they
dress us up this way, do ourhair this way never change.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
They've been like this since they were six years
old.
But, uh, yeah, I mean like oh,what was me?
You know, I don't.
I don't have to get up everymorning and punch out for a nine
to five and work for the manLike I get it you know, Um, but
I've.
I've also been there and Iguess what I'm trying to say is,
(31:01):
even if you, you do like workfor yourself, one day you can be
just as unmotivated as as toworking because you're the boss.
Now might even be harder.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
It is harder.
It is harder the number onewhen you, when you are the only
person you're accountable to andyou don't have and the passion
of starting that business orthat adventure, you know, after
three or four months months nowit's hard work.
Well, maybe I just won't showup today.
This is my mode.
Feel what 50 percent ofbusinesses, on whatever the new
(31:37):
statistic, is failing in thefirst few years.
Um, because the excitement isgone.
It's like getting a newgirlfriend, you know, and you
think it's gonna be like thatyour whole freaking life.
No, you have to build it.
That's why they say build abusiness.
You have to build arelationship.
You can't just sit there andthink that it's going to be, you
know, an emotional high, adopamine rush, your whole damn
(31:59):
life.
It ain't going to be nodopamine rush.
That's what happens when it'sbrand new and fresh, right, yeah
, but guess what it normalizes?
And now you got to figure outwhy you did it.
You got to remind yourself andthen you have to build it.
The brain gets bored.
Yeah, you know, I say this overand over on the podcast.
What's the difference betweenyou today and five years?
(32:20):
What you learn and who you meet, other than that.
You're the same boring person.
You haven't changed anything.
You might not be boring today,but in five years you're the
exact same person.
So you got to stimulate thebrain, you got to take what you
got, build it, you know, and andum, you know, keep the
excitement going in in allaspects of life.
(32:41):
But yeah, I think, as you said,much harder to stay motivated
as a business owner when youreally are the only one that's
holding accountable, and I seethe failure rates consistently.
I've been in business for 30years.
The ups and downs are atrocious.
It's a roller coaster ride andthe only one that gets hurt is
(33:03):
the one that jumps off duringthe ride.
So you got to ride it out, babythat jumps off during the ride.
So you got to ride it out, baby.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
Yeah, Dude, there's not a day that goes by where I
don't think the Lord that Idon't have to go work for
somebody else.
I'll be honest, I'll admit thatmuch.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
I think a big tragedy in life is where people get
stuck doing something they hateand that security blanket and or
pressures from society.
Basically, they corner them,they get themselves cornered
into.
Uh well, they get some corneredand they can't get out.
(33:44):
Um, you know, the money ispaying the bills, the
expectations are there from thefamily.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
Yeah, dude, I was in the corner.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Yeah, and you get up and you're miserable.
I believe that they shouldstart assessing kids in junior
high about their talents.
Once their brain startsmaturing and they start kind of
getting into adolescence, theyshould start focusing on hey,
(34:15):
what are you good at, and focusin on hey, where these talents
can take you and what'sinteresting in the entertainment
world.
There's tons of money in it, ohyeah.
Now the odds of becoming a starin it very, very uh low, but
the amount of people andindustry supporting show
(34:38):
business is massive oh, dude,there's so many levels like um,
I I always tell people like.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
People are like oh, you're a rock star.
You know I'm like no, I'm notreally a rock star, like my kids
think I'm a rock star, that'sall that matters.
You know, I always say it'slike, it's like I'm in the minor
leagues of rock stars.
You know, my kids really wantto like daddy because they think
(35:09):
that I've, I, I'm d snyder,like all the twisted scissors
songs are like that's your song.
I'm like no, it's not, but itsounds.
It sounds like you.
You know, like um, no, so daddylike sings other people's songs
, like I'm, you know, like minorleague baseball.
They're not quite like in themajors yet they're not pros, but
(35:30):
they're in the minor leagues,like that's what I do for rock
and roll music.
And then they're like oh, okay,well, that makes sense.
You're paying tribute to iconic,iconic music out there, and the
eighties, like you mentionedearlier, they're hot dude,
they're so hot, so it just kindof worked out you know, and it's
(35:51):
I don't know how, how long thelittle 80s crave is going to
last.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
It'll last because the Gen Xers are.
You know, they're the, they'rethe power group right now, right
, the.
You know the Gen Zers arecoming up.
Well, actually the Millennialsare coming up.
The Gen Zers is my son's age,but the Baby Boomers are on
(36:18):
their way out.
They're not very influentialanymore.
They're kind of just fading out.
Most of the silent generation.
Very few of them are stillalive.
So right now the majority ofthe voice is Gen Xers.
And you know, and growing up inthe 80s was just freaking
awesome.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
A lot of the music from 2000 to now is horrible.
So there's there's nocompetition really.
You know, I've actually it's.
It's funny because Not all ofit just a lot.
A lot of it is.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
You know it's such, I'll say play music from the 90s
, you know, and you getdepressed halfway through it.
You know, play music and I'lllisten to 70s, 80s music all day
long.
I love it.
But one of the things when Ifirst went and saw you, the
(37:08):
music you're singing is thatscreaming but melodic.
I mean it's actual singing.
But I mean gosh, like thehistory of Axl Rose, right when
I mean didn't his vocal cordsjust get shot, or where he
couldn't just sing those notesanymore.
He's still going, he still cando it I mean he's, he's 50s now.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
So you know, obviously it doesn't sound like
he used to vince neal.
Now that guy, he's, he's theone that he might be thinking of
.
His voice is gone, his voice is, but he's still singing too.
I mean they there's so muchopportunity and money in it,
because they are so hot.
These the brand yeah, they'renot going to walk away.
(37:52):
Now is the time you see thesebands, like guns and roses um,
getting back together.
You know, I never thoughtthey'd get back together are
they back together?
yeah, they've been, yeah,they've been touring now for
maybe like five years.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
What an amazing compilation of music they put
out.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
Yeah, but yeah, dude, it's like and here I get to
just be a local musician, itkind of like ride the coattails
on that.
Kind of like ride the coattailson that, uh.
(38:34):
But you know, I, I don't, Idon't really see myself becoming
you know famous or anything doyou write?
You know, uh, I've I've writtensongs in the past, but they
just uh, you know they I don'tknow like they just didn't work
for me.
Once I heard them, there was acouple I was all right with.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
Maybe I wasn't with the right group of guys you ever
thought about collaborating,kind of the old Elton John type
thing, where he was the musician, the singer, but he sucked at
writing lyrics.
And so somebody, a manager orsomebody said put these two guys
together the singer, but hesucked at writing lyrics.
So you know, and so somebody, amanager or somebody said put
these two guys together.
One guy sits in a room, writesa bunch of lyrics, hands them on
(39:15):
over to Elton and he, hecreates this iconic, um canon of
, of, of music, of songs.
Have you ever thought about acollaboration like that?
Speaker 4 (39:27):
I think, what, what I was doing wrong.
Uh, was it?
Every time I tried to dooriginal songs, it was with a
guitar player and I.
I don't think that works for me.
I think we, you just need toget everybody in a room together
and say hey, we're gonna do anoriginal song, what is it?
Speaker 3 (39:47):
The second time you brought that up.
What is the dynamic,specifically in your musical
journey?
What is the dynamic that is.
I don't know if it'sfrustrating, but creates a lack
of creativity when you'reworking directly with a
(40:07):
guitarist.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
Um, yeah, to me.
I'm not.
I'm a singer, I'm not amusician, so I don't know chords
, even as a musician.
Somebody tells me oh, you'relike such and such octave.
I'm like I don't know I justthink you know what I mean.
(40:30):
Sounds good to me, I'm not goingto try to pretend, like you
know, I'm some like I know a lotabout.
You know music and that kind ofthing.
But I can mimic voices, youknow, and pitches and whatever.
So I need two other musicianslike in the room with me if I'm
(40:53):
going to write a song.
You know, like here's thelyrics of the song.
You know, because the drummer'sgot a whole different idea of
what he wants to do, you know.
So you've got a guitar playerand he thinks of the riff and
then he's on one of those littleelectronic machines and he puts
in a drum beat and bass andeverybody else is supposed to
(41:14):
just go along with it.
You know, that's not what gunsand roses did.
Those guys lived in theirpractice studio and while they
were homeless and and made theappetite to destruction album
and look at, look at it todayled zeppelin.
You mentioned them.
They used to go into a cabin inthe woods we're not leaving
until we we make an album.
So that's the way to go, man.
(41:36):
But today, you know, there's alot, of, a lot of the solo
artists that just do thecomputerized stuff.
So there's something specialthat people love when they go
see guys, five of them, four ofthem on stage with real
instruments, you know, insteadof somebody that's mainstream,
(41:58):
um, with you know, six backupdancers, you know it's just.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
You know you'd make a good boy band.
You know we should think aboutthat.
You'll be not a bad idea peoplesay I look like ozzy.
Speaker 4 (42:13):
Now I get that at every show you're, you look like
you.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
You actually do with the makeup and that.
When you say you totally looklike a young Ozzy, you used to
be good looking, but yeah,you've definitely looked like
Ozzy now.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
Amy and I are going to go as Ozzy and Sharon for
Halloween.
I don't even have to dress up.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
You're kind of freaking me out now.
Give that Ozzy.
Look to the camera, Right intothe camera, right over there.
That's how you do it.
Give me a little Aussie song,Do you see?
Do you do Aussie Osborne?
Yeah, yeah, what do you?
What?
What's, what's?
Uh, what's your favorite?
Speaker 4 (42:47):
Oh, I don't have my favorites.
We do.
I'm trying to think of, orgenerals gathering their masses.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
Yeah, I love it.
Go ahead Continue.
I'm going off the rails on acrazy train.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
How does your voice put up with three hours of that?
I mean, do you, does it natural, your voice?
Speaker 4 (43:12):
your vocal cords, just like it.
Yeah, so early.
I said earlier I what I foundout about myself and about my
vocal range is like for me,screaming and singing like that
is what I'm the most comfortablewith and my voice is built for
it somehow.
I mean, I rarely lose my voicesinging four hours.
(43:36):
I could do back-to my voicesinging four hours.
I could do back-to-backs gigsfour hours.
But the second one I need acouple of days off.
But yeah, that's just mywheelhouse.
I'm a screamer, I guess, likenot death metal.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
but no, I don't like that.
You gotta find the right.
Speaker 4 (43:55):
Now the death metal?
Speaker 3 (43:56):
I don't.
I never got into that um I I'vealways enjoyed um all types.
I love all types of music, buton the heavy metal side I love
the.
When there's talent behind the,the instruments and the voice.
You know Metallica.
Great example, right Even intheir early days, where where
(44:21):
the they would, he would scream.
Yeah, I don't know why my mindjust went blank on the singer,
hetfield Hetfield.
Yeah, jeez Ryan, come on.
Ooh, yeah, I mean I love hisvoice but early on, like Kill Em
All.
I mean that's just real, verythe more intense, really working
(44:42):
those vocals, the deep growlyeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (44:44):
People love it, man, and there's not a lot of people
that can do it.
So that's how I got.
I'm so blessed.
You know there's so manytalented singers that don't
really get opportunities, butyou know, for me I just I got.
I just got lucky, dude, youknow.
Speaker 3 (45:06):
I mean, I don't know what else to say your innate
passion and we'll figure out howto define that one of these
days on the, on the podcast butaligned with your physical
talents uh, you know you.
But also hard work.
Example you took 10 years offand you sucked when you went
(45:26):
into the studio with your buddythat you hadn't talked um you
know, it's your, your voice.
Speaker 4 (45:32):
It's like a muscle it's like a bodybuilder, taking
10 years off and then trying toget back in the gym and push 300
pounds.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
You, you probably actually know paul knabe.
Um, he's an air conditioningguy too, but you know we talked
about this where he's a runner.
I used to be a runner in highschool but I, you know coach
would say, run all summer.
Of course he would know whenyou came in for cross country
and you know you're young, dumband you think, oh, I can, I ran,
(45:59):
great, and get up there and youstart running around the track
and it takes time to get backinto sure professional shape.
Speaker 4 (46:08):
Quote-unquote professional I thought my
singing days were over too.
Yeah, you know long gone.
So I mean, what was the point?
I'd sing, and you know like,maybe if I'm ever alone in the
car, but I had three kids that'snever happening does everyone
around you think you're insane?
Yeah, I did, I used to.
(46:29):
I remember going to the gym andrunning on the treadmill and
listening to my it was an AirPodback then and daydreaming about
being on the stage and beingable to sing again.
Oh, this is what I would dodifferently.
Speaker 3 (46:46):
You were strategic about it, never thought it would
happen Well strategic andintentional are the two things
that define success and thewillingness to understand that
failure is a function of success.
Okay, so you can't walk intothe studio, can't sing, because
you took so much time off.
Well, you could have walked outand said, yeah, I'm done, or
you can keep going and going Isuck.
(47:07):
No, I'm getting better, I'mreally getting better.
Okay, months and months go by.
Again we go back to hard work,right, hard and sacrifice.
Uh is the foundation of keepingyour passions alive.
Uh, out there when you'resinging, you covered.
Speaker 4 (47:23):
Name, name your top five bands you cover oh okay, so
acdc would probably be up there.
Uh, we do, uh guns and roses,not the crew.
Poison death leopard.
Um van halen, stuff like that,van halen diamond dave van halen
(47:46):
.
We do both oh, you do, you do alittle uh, yeah, we sammy sammy
, yeah, yeah, trying to think ofthe sammy is well, he's got a
little kind of a Sammy Sammy.
Yeah, yeah, trying to think ofthe song Sammy is.
Speaker 3 (47:58):
Well, he's got a little kind of a, got a little
bit of screaming too, but he'she's a lot more melodic than
yeah.
Speaker 4 (48:06):
What?
There's so many songs whenwe're doing the, the, the covers
.
There's so many songs and I, I,I can't do that Like high
squeal, you know so I, I, Ican't do that like high squeal,
you know so I, I don't do it youknow, I just stick to what what
my like little comfort zone isin my voice and I I don't try to
(48:29):
hit those high you know pitchnotes because I'm not gonna to
hit them.
Speaker 3 (48:34):
Who is your favorite artist to pay tribute to If you
had to pick one?
Speaker 4 (48:41):
To pay tribute to Kevin Dubrow, yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (48:46):
He's my number one.
I'm a huge Twisted Sister fan,so D is he's probably tied, but
I, I, uh, I.
I have this dream of being thelead singer for quiet riot
someday.
So that's, that's why I saykevin arbro all right, so we'll
(49:09):
promote this.
Speaker 3 (49:10):
Um I think I know the management company out there
we'll yeah, guys, I'm right here.
Right there, let's do a littleaudition for Quiet Riot right
now.
Give me something that they canhear.
Yeah, let's do it.
Give me a verse or two, okay.
And this is about anyinstrumental guys.
(49:31):
This guy's got some talent.
Speaker 4 (49:34):
Alright ready?
Speaker 1 (49:35):
Yeah, come on, feel the noise.
The cats rock you.
I mean, this guy's got sometalent.
All right, ready, yeah, come on, feel the noise.
The girls rock your boys.
We'll get wild, wild, wild,wild, wild, wild, yeah, woo.
Speaker 3 (49:57):
Yeah, all right, we'll get it out there.
You need to take some time offand let Dustin jump in there for
a set, or at least call you upon stage.
I could be the backup guy.
Give me that, I'll take thatyou see this is popular with
bands where they'll be likeanybody out there can play the
drums.
Well, that's all set up already, they already know the kid.
(50:20):
They've already contacted himbecause he's on YouTube doing it
or something.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
Oh yeah, yeah, but that's cool.
Speaker 3 (50:27):
Yeah, so maybe they'll call you the management
company and be quiet and saycome on to our concert.
Speaker 1 (50:31):
They're going to pick you out of the crowd Meet me.
Speaker 3 (50:33):
They're going to pick you out of the crowd.
Meet me here and we can come onout here and you can sing a
song for the band.
That'd be fantastic.
That'd be a dream come true.
Speaker 4 (50:43):
It would be.
But I do love the guys that Ihave the tribute band with.
They're just fantasticmusicians.
Man Andy and Andrew Ralphphhe's the drummer um, they had
(51:05):
this this quiet riot bandestablished, uh, and then their
singer something happened, hisvoice went out on him and then
he's moving away.
So they had, you know, likethey've had the time.
They had like 5 000 followerson facebook and they're playing
at all these crazy venues up inorange county.
There's a whole tribute sceneup there, which is awesome.
I always thought will ferrellshould have made some movie
(51:27):
about the tribute scene thesethese people, I really think
that they're like wellI was gonna ask the real artist,
that they sound and look likethem too, so it's pretty badass.
Speaker 3 (51:37):
Well, I was going to ask you about that.
So early when you were a kidyou said you did some acting and
things like this and, knowingyou from a professional realm, I
was shocked when I found outyou sing and do these 80s rock
band stuff.
Speaker 4 (51:54):
Because, while I was work, I was acting Like I was
normal.
You were working.
Speaker 3 (52:00):
Well, you're actually kind of a really at least the
personality that I knew for 15years or longer.
You're very predictable, you'revery centerlined, you're not
too emotional.
One way or the other Can alwaysexpect us to be in a certain
(52:20):
mood when we'd walk in and takecare of business, and then I see
this whole alter ego.
When you go out on stage, doyou become somebody else in your
mind for a couple hours.
Speaker 4 (52:35):
Oh yeah absolutely.
You know, I, I think that, uh,once any singer or performer
gets comfortable, then then they, that's how they feel.
You know, you're not up therepsyching yourself out.
I hope I remember the lyrics, Ihope I remember my lines and
you finally find that comfortzone.
Yeah, you're, you're completelysomebody else and uh and I you
(53:09):
love it.
You know it makes you feelspecial.
Um unique is there's.
You know there's not.
People come up, compliment you.
It makes you feel great man.
You know you ride the wave, for,like you got a show on Saturday
, you know Sunday, and thenMonday comes and you settle down
(53:29):
a little bit but, if you have areally good show that makes you
feel like Superman you know, soI, I, I cheer every time.
I feel that way, I cherish it,and I know it could be the last
time.
You never know, you know, andand and I'm.
I'm not talking about hugevenues.
They get this type of feeling,you know.
(53:49):
Uh, the largest I've everplayed was a couple thousand
people, that's it, you know.
Most of the most nights it'slike 100, 200 people, you know,
but there's two, that's you know100 200 people who see we're
entertained.
Speaker 3 (54:04):
The entertainment industry, in my opinion, lost
their way.
Um, specifically in cinema,where they stopped entertaining
people.
You know they put their agendafirst.
People are going to a show tobasically forget about the
(54:25):
mundane, their nine to five, theproblems at home, the issues
with their kids, the bills,whatever, just what everybody
deals with in life, and theyjust want to shut it off.
Yeah, and show them something.
Show them something, yeah, andpeople forget that show business
(54:46):
.
They forget the business partof show business, and you're
there to provide a product, aservice, and the service you're
providing is an escape.
People my age go to this, theseGen Xers, and they're like man.
I remember when I was out inthe parking lot smoking a
(55:07):
left-handed cigarette with mygirlfriend at that time and went
out and just had, you know, noworries in the world and I would
just take some back, and for acouple, two or three hours they
literally have forgotten theirnormal life and that's 100% on
(55:28):
the guys on stage.
So you, going up there andbecoming Dusty Rhodes, got it
right this time.
Um it.
It shows authenticity andpeople can see that.
You know, you look at what.
What's the difference between ab actor and an a actor.
Well, an a actor believes it'sso authentic.
(55:49):
They're not going.
What's my line?
Am I doing it right?
They just have become what thatcharacter is.
The same has to be for atribute band.
You have to become that singer,yeah, or else the audience
ain't going to buy it andthey're going to go.
We just threw our money away.
Speaker 4 (56:10):
Very true.
Speaker 3 (56:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (56:11):
There is so much insane competition in the
tribute scene.
I mean, there's so many talentedpeople out there.
You mentioned these older bandsthat are just limping through
their last tour, like MotleyCrue, for example.
(56:35):
We saw a tribute band that thatlooked like the younger version
and sounded like the youngerversion of motley crew.
It say sounded better thanmotley crew sounds now, you know
.
So you go into a venue and youspend ten dollars on a ticket
and you see four bands, you know, in four hours and, and they're
(56:56):
, you know, they look identicalto poison and motley crew and
quiet riot and uh, you know, Idon't know alice cooper, you
know, and they put on a just asgood of a show.
It's dude.
So that's what a lot of peopleare doing.
Because you can't get a ticket,you want to go see a real band,
(57:20):
you're dropping $300.
Speaker 3 (57:23):
Unless it's Taylor Swift, you're spending $4,000,
$3,000.
Speaker 4 (57:27):
Yeah, the ticket prices are retarded now they are
.
Speaker 3 (57:30):
They're expensive.
I like small venue.
I get much more out of it.
I can't do small venue.
I get much more out of it.
I am I.
Just I can't do big venue.
The last one I did actually wasa couple of years ago because
I'd never seen the RollingStones.
So I was in Atlanta and a buddyof mine says, hey, let's go see
the Stones.
I said never saw them.
Hopefully they live anotheryear or two.
This might be your last chance.
(57:52):
Go now.
They put on a show.
Man, I can't believe the showthey put on the energy level
that mick jagger has isoutrageous.
Uh, he, you know, he saw it.
I think it was 80 years old orsomething silly like that still
doing he's running, jumping uh,it is insane but mick jagger
jogs on a treadmill and sings.
Speaker 4 (58:13):
That's how he prepares for his his tour.
Speaker 3 (58:18):
It's something special.
I could never do that.
Well, listen, dustin, thank youfor coming out on a Saturday.
Um, I didn't think I was goingto get you today, but I know
your your schedule is tight.
What's what's what's coming upin your?
Life I'm glad we can make itwork.
I today, but I know yourschedule is tight.
What's coming up in your life.
(58:39):
I'm glad we can make it work.
I love it.
So where can people find you?
Because I'm telling you, youguys will absolutely love the
show.
It's such an escape and bringyou back to the 80s.
These guys put on an authentic,just great time, fun time you
can meet Dustin.
What's coming up on theschedule?
Speaker 4 (59:01):
Well, we've got Halo Effects.
That's the one that we do,that's the cover band.
Okay, the three-hour, four-hourshows generally.
That's down here in the SanDiego area Is there?
Speaker 3 (59:15):
a website.
Or've got a lot coming up sowe've.
Speaker 4 (59:17):
We'll just throw a facebook link on there, you know
um, and that's it's got all theupcomers perfect um, I think
it's two weeks from now is thenext one yeah, we'll throw a
link at the beginning of thispodcast and throughout um, so
they can get onto it.
Speaker 3 (59:33):
We'll put a tag up there so they can click on it
and go see.
Speaker 4 (59:36):
And same with the Metal Health up there, and those
are all Orange County shows.
That's the tribute scene,though.
Well, absolutely Wide range ofopportunity here.
Speaker 3 (59:45):
Well, if you guys are looking for an amazing night
out, relatively inexpensive GenXers out there getting out there
and just reliving your teenageyears and, of course, all the
new generations that are lovingthe 80s, dustin's bands,
dustin's enthusiasm andauthenticity in it, his voice.
(01:00:08):
You'll absolutely love it.
Speaker 4 (01:00:10):
And Amy is going to be there.
Well, yes, well, the realreason.
Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
Can she come over here?
Yeah, come on over, Amy.
Say hi to everyone.
Speaker 4 (01:00:17):
So I'm not kidding when I say that people come to
see her.
It's a team effort.
She's kind of like my manager.
Really, absolutely, come onclose, come on closer.
I'm just a bonus when you cometo these things.
Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
Well, I love it.
You guys Excellent, and thankyou so much, amy, for helping
this guy live his dream.
Yeah, and our pleasure man.
Thanks for having us here.
Absolutely Thank you.
He makes it easy to support him.
Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
So, I love doing it Love it All right guys?
Speaker 3 (01:00:54):
Well, you guys have a wonderful weekend.
And rock on, All right guys.
Well, you guys have a wonderfulweekend and rock on.
Speaker 4 (01:00:57):
All right, man.
Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
Thank you, man, give us a little lyrics before you go
.
Speaker 4 (01:00:59):
One more baby.
Oh, what do I?
What?
Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
do you?
Put me on the spot dude, ofcourse that's what I do.
Twisted Sister, you've beentalking about it all night All
right Twisted.
Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
Sister, we're not gonna take it.
No, we ain't gonna take it.
Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
We're not gonna take it, yeah you've been listening
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Speaker 3 (00:27):
Dustin, thanks for coming out.
Man, Dustin, Stop aka.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Dusty.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Rose.
How did that come about?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Well, I've had a lot of names, some you can't say.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
We'll keep this clean .
These have stuck though.
Yeah.
Yeah, dusty Dubrow would beanother one, but yeah, the Dusty
Rhodes thing is my.
I said Dusty Rose.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
It's Dusty Rhodes.
Look at me, dusty.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Rhodes.
I threw another name now.
Now we got another one to getout of the list.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Yeah, we Rose, it's dusty roads.
Look at dusty road throughanother name Now.
Now we got another one yeah,yeah, we're, we're just we're
just stacking them out.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Yeah, tough on that.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
DMV paperwork.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Yeah, you're right, but hey, aka, aka, aka, um, but
yeah, man, that's my stage namefor my rock bands, and you know
my alter ego when I'm not adaddy at home there you go.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
So I've known you.
I was thinking about this.
I've known you, Pat, over 20years.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
It's just hard to believe.
Well, it just flies.
I mean you got kids, you know.
I mean it just seems likeyesterday they were born, next
thing, you know, believe, yeah,well, it just flies.
I mean you got kids, you know.
I mean it just seems likeyesterday they were born next
thing, you know.
You know it's time just flies.
But you know, I met you.
Obviously people that listen tothe podcast know I'm in the
hvac business and I met you inthat world.
Uh, you being on the supplierside, me being on the service
(02:01):
side, working for a majorsupplier here in San Diego, and
yeah, Seems like a long time ago.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
It wasn't that long ago.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
But what's interesting, though and we talk
about business and customerservice you always just
understood and took care of thecustomers that were the
contractors, including myself.
Never had you know.
If I had an issue, I would callyou, you'd take care of it.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Just doing my job you know.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Well, people don't get that.
They don't understand, whenthey're on the other side of the
counter behind the register,that that is.
Their job Is to sell and totake care of the customer, which
is the contractor in your case.
But you know, we became friends.
I always respected you and Ialways thought, you know, you're
(02:52):
a good dude Likewise.
Well, of course, that just goeswithout saying.
You know so, like me, you knowyou're just cruising through
life, right?
You know, when I met you, youknow, I had a business, you had
a career, I had a practice wife.
You ended up with a practicewife and, um, you know, we
(03:13):
learned lessons and had kidswith with uh, with them, um, but
you weren't living.
I mean, you're living a goodlife, but not the life that you
want.
Now, as everybody can tell,this guy's a rocker and we're
going to throw some stuff up onuh on the podcast video.
(03:34):
Um, I've been to the uh hisshows, a couple of them
Fantastic.
You do cover cover music,correct.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Cover music, uh and full on tributes, Yep.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
And give the audience an example.
I've seen it.
I'm hoping we can get somevideo or something, or at least
link to some of the stuff thatyou've done, because it is
impressive.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Well, we do first of all backtrack into Johnstone.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
I literally thought I was going to be working there
forever.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Well, you moved up too.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
I mean, you moved up from, I think, warehouse to
store manager to outside sales.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yep Climbed the ladder.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
I had all my own perks company vehicle, credit
card, laptop phone, gas card andyou know, one day I just turned
it all in.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
That's a job, it's a great, it's a security blanket.
I call it Okay, so you havethis security blanket and I've
had one of those where you'reworking for a company, they see
how you're excelling, they'removing you up quickly, they're
paying you well, but in the backof your mind it's like damn,
the alarm clock just went off.
I gotta go to work oh yeah,dude.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
I got to the point where I hated getting up.
I was like what am I gonna you?
Know, um, you had to fill out alog of where you went, who you
saw, and, uh, I tried to get ascreative as I could, fill in
that thing out to you withoutreally having to do anything.
(05:16):
You know, like I'd send anemail and I'd log that, or
whatever.
Um, but it wasn't your passion.
I mean no it wasn't my passion,but it was.
It was something I'd been doing, you know, for for 15 years
until I walked away from it.
You know, and don't get mewrong, I didn't just one day go
I'm I'm just going to resign.
(05:37):
I had lots of things happen inmy life that that changed it, um
, that I never saw coming and Ididn't have to do that anymore.
So I was fortunate and blessedenough to be able to do that.
It's just crazy, looking backand walking away from 15 years
(06:03):
and all these perks that comewith the job, but I was also
working for my ex-father-in-law,so it felt good to not have
that, you know, hanging over meanymore.
You know, nobody's the boss ofme anymore.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
You negotiated that precarious situation well, as
well as, I think, anybodypossibly could.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Well, nobody can believe that I kept my job.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
I couldn't, I could not believe it and not only keep
your job, but you did it for afew.
What, almost three or fouryears post, correct?
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was years.
And um, you know that, my boss,uh everett, um, you know he, he
loves my grandkids, or hisgrandkids, he loves my children
and he, as much as I think hemay have wanted to, just, in
spite, knock on my ass, hedidn't do that because he knew
(07:04):
it would hurt the kids.
So, he's a good guy.
No, I've always thought Nothingagainst him.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Everett actually bailed me out back in the 2008
nightmare the housing crisis.
However, it was within the HVACbusiness.
It fell into that because I wasin residential yeah, and he
would help me out like, look, godo the job.
And when you're done with thejob, you know let's, you know
let's settle up, and I wasalways good for it.
(07:30):
Actually, he only did it onceor twice, but you know, he
helped me get on my feet until Igot smart and got out of the
residential business and wentinto commercial.
Yeah, you negotiated thatsituation well and for years and
I was pretty surprised.
Let's go back in time.
Let's talk about this love youhave for 80s glam rock.
(07:56):
What do they call it glam rock?
I forget what they called itwhere these groups like Poison
and Guns.
N' Roses.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Glam rock, hair Metal , hair Metal, I don't know what
else.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Well, I mean just where I mean.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
It's alive and well today.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Long hair tight pants makeup the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Yeah, yeah, my, I really didn't even know that I
could sing, so I'm born.
I was born in 80, so I got thatglam rock, but I was still you
know, really young um.
My dad was always 70s, so themusic's in my family.
My grandfather is a conductorin.
(08:39):
Ohio.
Um, um, I, I started actingwhen I was a kid.
I loved being an entertainer.
I would always, you know, puton shows and stuff like that for
my family um, which my daughterdoes now, which is awesome.
But I didn't even know I couldsing until I, you know, was old
(09:01):
enough to go to the karaoke barsand then I started singing Back
.
Then it was just like BillieJean and stuff like that,
anything I could do to get girls.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
They like a confident man behind the microphone.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Yeah, and then one day somebody was like you should
be in a band.
So this was in Arizonarizonaearly 2000s, and we were doing,
we were just doing stuff that Ijust followed his lead, you know
.
So I was singing uh weird stuff, man, like stuff that wasn't
(09:39):
for me, like, uh, like journey,journey is not for me.
Um.
So then I just started umpolishing up my you know, my, my
, my voice, um, being honestwith myself, what's in my
(10:00):
wheelhouse?
Uh, cause, I got a lot of of ofbad, uh feedback, like, oh, he
can't sing, he needs singinglessons.
And it's because I wasn'tsinging.
What I was, you know, designedto sing.
It's like a growly, like KevinDubrow, you know, like, come on
feel the noise.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
We'll get wet, wet, wet.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
You know what I mean love it.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
So that's like uh, figured, I, figured it out you
know, after a while, you know,you know it's funny is when you
know that american idol and allthose, those talent shows I
would, I would watch these goesby.
All the bands I absolutely lovewould get booed off the stage
because, quote, unquote, theycan't sing.
(10:47):
It's like no, they can, it'sjust doesn't fall into that.
You know that perfect taughtsinging lessons type.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I was, I just justfiguring it out.
You know, like I didn't, Idon't know what I was doing.
So, um, now I can't, like Ican't imagine not doing it.
You know I love it so much, uh,being able to go out there with
with they're like my brothers,you know my bandmates and um, so
(11:19):
many great places that we weget booked.
You know, uh, the guy with HaloEffect, mike Harper.
I've never been with somebodythat books so many shows at so
many different places.
It's just incredible.
It's such a great opportunityto meet people and other
musicians, other local musicians.
There's so much talent out herein San Diego and Orange and LA.
(11:44):
It's insane.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Are you guys focusing most in Southern California or
are you guys getting out of thestate?
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Yeah it's, it's primarily here We'll.
We'll get on a plane.
We'll be lucky enough to hit acasino or two every year, you
know.
The last one we went to wasthis was for quiet riot but this
was up in uh feather fallscasino.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Is that chico?
Yeah, well, the casinos arewhere it's at for even uh a
listers out there.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
I mean seinfeld, the comedians, they're all hitting
the casinos now that's justwhere it's at yeah, that other
one up up in orange yamava, yeah, yeah oh my gosh serious
artists in.
We played there at their littlerock and bruise place.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Yeah, I see their billboards.
It's like really yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Wow, oh my God, they're like Carrie Underwood's
going there now.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Yeah, and she's actually.
We just came back from Arizonadriving up and I see her
billboard.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
She's going to be at the Aqua Cal you know the aqua
caliente or something like that,another casino, but yeah, the
casinos are getting a-listers,um, that that's, they're driving
the business, they're drivingthe entertainment.
My dream dude would be like if,if quiet, the real quiet, right
because they're still playingif they call and they're like we
need a new singer, like thatmovie rock star that's the only
way that things get better forme right now, like in musically,
your voice covers a lot ofthese bands from the 80s that
(13:12):
are resurging.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
So everything from the 80s, uh, is now?
There's money in that.
Even from the wardrobesfreaking the mullet is coming
back.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
You know how many mullets that I see now the 80s
are so cool, man like, uh, my,my son's friends are just like
your dad was born in 80, youknow.
And then that that cobra kaishow came out and I think kind
of like ignited that whole feverfor these kids.
They love the 80s, dude, the80s are immortal.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
it's huge and the 80s dude the 80s are immortal.
It's huge.
And the 80s rock bands arecoming back around.
I mean, look, with youmentioned Journey earlier and
that's not your voice.
However, a major, mega late 70s80s band, oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Dude, that guy can sing, Anybody that can sing
Steve Perry.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Well, that one guy I don't know his name name, but he
can sing steve perry yeah sothat's.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
That's impressive dude like and then now um queen
with the adam, landberg withqueen.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
So and I haven't actually heard.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Uh, you know I love queen.
As far as the original band, um, I haven't really dived into
adam's version of it, but thejourney version is crazy.
Um, it would be great.
Uh, I mean it could happen foryou, but I've seen you perform.
It's fun to watch.
(14:38):
You actually did my 50thbirthday party.
Thank you very much.
Um, everybody gave great, greatfeedback.
Um, so, as a youngster, youknow, you kind of got into, you
know, doing these bands, youkind of got a feel for it, you
got a love for it, um, and thenlife kicks in right, kind of hey
(14:59):
, it's time to stop playing.
Okay, it's time to grow up andand, um, you know, get married,
have some kids, get a career,yep, um, and you know, and
that's all respectable and youdid a fantastic job.
You know, getting that careerand life hit its ups and downs
won't go into too much of that,as it does for everybody.
But then you kind of hit somerough patches, man, um, some,
(15:23):
some, some things that a lot ofpeople don't have to deal with.
Um, we talked about this but,uh, you know, you, you had a
brother who ran into some issueswith.
Was it drugs or alcohol, Idon't quite remember yeah all
the above?
yeah, and unfortunately he lostthat battle he did, yep, he uh.
(15:48):
So shortly after, it was aboutsix years ago, right shortly
after covid.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Yeah, yes, I, I got.
I got a call out of nowhere anduh, they found him, you know,
in his apartment and um, wereyou close?
Uh, yeah, we were very close.
You know, we were two yearsapart older the oldest one, you
know um my only brother.
I've got a little sister too,but yeah, that that's a call.
(16:16):
Uh still can't believe happenedum the the sad part was is that
he, he was alone, you know, fora while Um you know uh fentanyl
as well, took him down, so thatis uh unaware Was he aware that
(16:37):
it was fentanyl, or or?
he you know, he just didn't.
Uh, the addiction was toostrong.
He didn't.
He was like, well, if it's inthere, it probably won't kill me
.
I don't know what the hell hewas thinking.
You know he did.
He got a little crazy towardsthe last couple months of his
(16:58):
life, which is why I think a lotof people ignored him.
He didn't hear from him.
It wasn't that big of a deal,why I think a lot of people
ignored him.
You didn't hear from him, itwasn't that big of a deal.
But yeah, dude, we, we had togo out to Arizona and me and my
buddies out there friends I grewup with in high school you know
we had to move his stuff out ofhis apartment and it was.
(17:20):
You could smell him in there.
You know it'd been like a week.
You could smell them in there.
You know it'd been like a week.
Uh, so that was.
That was a very challengingthing to deal with you know, and
that's.
It happened immediately after,uh, my divorce, so it was kind
of uh and COVID, so it was.
(17:42):
It was a test, you know, butafter a while I've got to pull
myself out of it.
I've got three kids, so I can'tfail them.
I can't control my brother'sdecisions.
(18:02):
That he made Tough for an olderbrother though yeah, it's tough
, man.
I tell my wife all the time ifyou, if you think I'm funny you
should have met him.
This kid, he should have been astand-up comedian.
You know he should have been.
I wish you could have met him,I would have loved to met him
(18:24):
yeah.
You probably wouldn't beinterested in me anymore.
Probably not.
I'm sure he outshines you.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
That's a nice thing to say about your brother and
I'm sure, knowing you, I'm surehe was a fantastic character and
person.
But you get caught in thosedownward spirals, you know, then
you start pushing people awaybut I didn't even think about
that, Dustin so we come out of,we're in COVID which was just
(18:52):
insane Going through a divorce,so it's basically a one, two,
three punch on you and you'vegot kids that you've got to.
Basically, you know, try tonormalize life for them.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
Yeah, and I felt so guilty, you know, because, uh,
my, my ex wife practice wife.
Yeah, but she a hundred percenthad every right to divorce me.
I was not a good husband, youknow?
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Um, again, that's what we call it A practice.
Yeah, you know, again that'swhat we call it a practice.
Yeah, you know, I have topractice and learn how bad you
are.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
So I was riding that guilt trip.
I felt like the the big, likethe biggest loser to my kids.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
But now, like, all that's behind me and my kids
don't even remember.
They were young enough wherethey don't even really remember.
So things are a lot better nowbut back then, dude, you know
I'm thinking like I don't evenwant to like live.
(20:04):
You know I was embarrassed togo to work as I worked for her
dad, so the only thing that thatreally pulled me out of it was
meeting Amy, who's now my wife,and reconnecting with with an
(20:26):
old guitar player of mine, andagain, this is during COVID.
But hey, dude, I really wouldlike to start a project with you
.
Since backpedaling, I hadpreviously quit when I got
married Because my practice wifegave me an ultimatum no rock
(20:47):
and roll for you, boy.
She was like I'm pregnant and ifyou're gonna stay with the band
, then I'm out.
So I I I left the band, so Ihad like 10 years off and I
called this guy back out ofnowhere I just call him in the
blue and right away we startedrehearsing um some of these
(21:07):
little practice studios.
They didn't really follow COVIDrules, but how did it feel?
Speaker 3 (21:14):
So, when you called him and he says, hey, yeah,
dustin, come on out, we're goingto go out to this little
practice studio, whatever.
Yeah, oh, we'll just rehearse.
How did that feel the firsttime you walked in there after
10 years?
Speaker 4 (21:26):
Oh, it felt great.
Yeah, I bet it did it feltgreat.
Yeah, I bet it felt great, butI'll tell you what my voice
wasn't no wasn't what it isreally no, you take 10 years off
.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
I mean um did he look at you sideways going?
Speaker 4 (21:37):
what sorry he always looked at me sideways.
He knows who he is.
He's still a friend of mine himand I, him and I have had, uh,
we butted heads a lot of thetimes.
Guitar players and singers buttheads, um, but uh, but yeah,
that felt great man getting inthere and uh, we had some random
(21:59):
drummer that he scraped up and,um, and another buddy of mine,
pete audillo, on bass and bass,and we would start playing,
figuring out what songs we weregoing to do, ended up playing at
some place called the Kraken.
The Kraken During COVID whenthey first started to trickle
(22:22):
things back together and open itup.
And we're playing outside onthe patio and it was just weird,
man, those times and thosetents.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
All entertainers.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
I'm so glad that's behind us, my gosh dude.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
The comedians that tried to put shows on during
COVID where the audience had towear masks, said you can't play
the audience, you have no cluewhat their facial expressions
are.
This is the worst, worstfeeling in the world, yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Dude a lot of local artists and performers, like
they called it, quits, you know.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Businesses too, After COVID.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
You know they thought first who knows when things
were ever going to?
You know open, covid.
You know they thought firstthat who knows when things were
ever gonna?
you know open back up again anduh you know, like people that
have been doing it for 20 or 30years, they're they're tired of
it.
You know, I've been doing itfor an in total 20.
So like 15 on, and now where amI at, like don't know.
(23:29):
But anyway, there's, there'stimes where I'm like, oh man, I
don't know if I really want tokeep doing this.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
It's because it's hard so before the podcast, we
were talking about this rightyou know the audience sees the
two hour three hour set.
Heck, you were telling me, youguys got some four-hour sets,
which is insane.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Yeah, most of them are actually.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Yeah, like a two-hour set.
And in their mind they just seethe glamour.
Right here he is.
He just woke up, he comes out,he rocks it.
Give me a rock sound, give me asing.
He does the.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Hello St Louis.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Yeah, and you know, he just woke up, rolls out, he
rocks for two hours and he's outof there Some guys do that.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
Actually, we just play with the Motley Crue
tribute.
I'm pretty sure that's whatthey do.
You know the yes, you'reabsolutely right.
You know the yes, you'reabsolutely right.
And sometimes you got to dosound check two hours before you
(24:39):
even go on.
So now you're there, you'replaying for four hours and
you've got breakdown after thatand you got to be there two
hours earlier.
Your day is shot.
You know what?
Speaker 1 (24:48):
I mean.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
And a lot of times you're playing with five guys.
You don't get paid a lot ofmoney.
You know, if you're doing thisfor the money, you know don't,
Because you're going to behomeless very fast, you know
again I'm blessed enough.
Now where I'm, I'm comfortablefinancially, um, and I don't
(25:15):
have to work so I can focus allon this.
And I, I, I remember doing thiswhile I was working and, uh,
looking back, I'm like I can'tbelieve I did that.
I must love it that much.
So every time I feel like, ohman, I don't want to do this.
It's like I'm only getting $200for eight hours and I'm tired
(25:39):
and I just want to sit at home.
You know, have sex with my wifeall day.
I don't want to drive all theway to Orange County.
Uh, we always end up pullingtogether and going.
You know, all day I don't wantto drive all the way to Orange
County.
We always end up pullingtogether and going.
And Amy comes to me.
She comes with me to every show.
I can't imagine a bettersupport system than that.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
She's fantastic.
She gets the audience going.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Half the time they're there to see her.
I swear I mean.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
You think I invited you over here yeah, the podcast.
I put her over in the cornerhere.
I keep uh she is, she is she's,she's adorable, she's, she's a,
she's, she's a really goodwoman yeah I enjoy, I've enjoyed
her company, she's, she's avery um you guys, you complement
each other well, just like mywife, and I do I mean?
Speaker 4 (26:27):
look.
She is very much responsiblefor where I'm at today,
especially my look.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Hmm.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Yeah, she encouraged me to grow my hair out.
You know she puts this eyemakeup on me.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
I told you to come prepared.
I said come prepared, dressedlike it's a show.
This is, yeah, I'm justdisappointed you don't have that
.
The poison, was it maybe the?
I said come prepared, I'm justdisappointed you don't have that
poison hat.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
I didn't think about bringing that hat.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Here's the picture.
I'm putting it up right now soyou guys can see it Guy's a rock
star man.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
I've had people offer me a lot of money for that hat.
I can't give it up.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Well, you know, you described something, dustin.
That is why most people give upand get nowhere on their goals
and their life, so they get.
You know, they call it thehedonic treadmill, but the idea
behind it is you come up with anidea, you're all excited about
it.
It could be a relationship, itcould be a business, it could be
(27:24):
the music thing.
It could be this podcast.
It could be a business.
It could be the music thing.
It could be this podcast.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
The problem is is that inevitably the common
denominator is?
Speaker 3 (27:38):
hard-ass work, yeah, like with anything, yeah, and
when you're having a bad day,and bad days come, you know, the
excuses start coming and you'relike do I need to put out
another one?
Do I really want to do it?
Oh gosh, I got to drive down tothe studio or I got to drive to
Orange County.
You know, you got to say no,I'm going to just do this.
(28:02):
I made a commitment yes, nothaving a great day today, but I
made a commitment and I have to,you know, achieve this goal.
Sure, achieving goals requireshard work, sometimes a lot of
sacrifice, sometimes suffering.
But if you're doing it becauseyou internally just have and I'm
not a big fan of the wordpassion, because people just
think that you have to be alwaysexcited about it, okay, passion
(28:25):
and I'll think of a way todescribe it better, and I
haven't thought of it, but it'salmost part of you.
It's that part of you that, youknow, makes you get up in the
morning when you don't want toand say I've got a commitment to
this.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
You know it's like for your kids for example right
right, you know, daddy get upyeah, well, you, you know you
love your kids always, butsometimes you don't like them.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Right, right.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Not at 530 in the morning and when you're not
liking them you're stillobligated to it and the overall
blessings from it and or whatyou get from it, If you found
what you want to do that's.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
This is where so many people fail in business and in
their their goals and life,Cause they just think it's going
to be some happy party 100% ofthe time it's not no, no, um, I
will say man, like when, when uh, the show starts, like I
(29:26):
wouldn't be anywhere else, youknow wouldn't want to be
anywhere else, like I, I justlove, um, the interaction with
my, my band members.
You know, um, it's like you'reon a team pretty much.
You know you don't want to letdown the team, you don't want to
cancel last minute cause you'rejust not feeling like you're up
(29:49):
to it or you're hung over orwhatever.
You know there's going to beconsequences.
The venue is not going to hireyou back, you know you're
unreliable.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
It is a job, it is a business.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Yeah, it is and it's look, I'm 45.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
So really I'm not, I'm not trying to party too hard
anymore.
Didn't know they let people getthat old in this country?
Speaker 4 (30:13):
Well, I mean, the hair helps hide the age a little
bit.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
My wife paints my hair, so it works out all right
for both of us.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Amy spiral curls mine for the Kevin Dubrow.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
That's just adorable.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
Yeah, we like to have our moments together.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
I like it, we're like .
We're like, they're little, uh,they're little dolls when they
dress us up this way, do ourhair this way never change.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
They've been like this since they were six years
old.
But, uh, yeah, I mean like oh,what was me?
You know, I don't.
I don't have to get up everymorning and punch out for a nine
to five and work for the manLike I get it you know, Um, but
I've.
I've also been there and Iguess what I'm trying to say is,
(31:01):
even if you, you do like workfor yourself, one day you can be
just as unmotivated as as toworking because you're the boss.
Now might even be harder.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
It is harder.
It is harder the number onewhen you, when you are the only
person you're accountable to andyou don't have and the passion
of starting that business orthat adventure, you know, after
three or four months months nowit's hard work.
Well, maybe I just won't showup today.
This is my mode.
Feel what 50 percent ofbusinesses, on whatever the new
(31:37):
statistic, is failing in thefirst few years.
Um, because the excitement isgone.
It's like getting a newgirlfriend, you know, and you
think it's gonna be like thatyour whole freaking life.
No, you have to build it.
That's why they say build abusiness.
You have to build arelationship.
You can't just sit there andthink that it's going to be, you
know, an emotional high, adopamine rush, your whole damn
(31:59):
life.
It ain't going to be nodopamine rush.
That's what happens when it'sbrand new and fresh, right, yeah
, but guess what it normalizes?
And now you got to figure outwhy you did it.
You got to remind yourself andthen you have to build it.
The brain gets bored.
Yeah, you know, I say this overand over on the podcast.
What's the difference betweenyou today and five years?
(32:20):
What you learn and who you meet, other than that.
You're the same boring person.
You haven't changed anything.
You might not be boring today,but in five years you're the
exact same person.
So you got to stimulate thebrain, you got to take what you
got, build it, you know, and andum, you know, keep the
excitement going in in allaspects of life.
(32:41):
But yeah, I think, as you said,much harder to stay motivated
as a business owner when youreally are the only one that's
holding accountable, and I seethe failure rates consistently.
I've been in business for 30years.
The ups and downs are atrocious.
It's a roller coaster ride andthe only one that gets hurt is
(33:03):
the one that jumps off duringthe ride.
So you got to ride it out, babythat jumps off during the ride.
So you got to ride it out, baby.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
Yeah, Dude, there's not a day that goes by where I
don't think the Lord that Idon't have to go work for
somebody else.
I'll be honest, I'll admit thatmuch.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
I think a big tragedy in life is where people get
stuck doing something they hateand that security blanket and or
pressures from society.
Basically, they corner them,they get themselves cornered
into.
Uh well, they get some corneredand they can't get out.
(33:44):
Um, you know, the money ispaying the bills, the
expectations are there from thefamily.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
Yeah, dude, I was in the corner.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Yeah, and you get up and you're miserable.
I believe that they shouldstart assessing kids in junior
high about their talents.
Once their brain startsmaturing and they start kind of
getting into adolescence, theyshould start focusing on hey,
(34:15):
what are you good at, and focusin on hey, where these talents
can take you and what'sinteresting in the entertainment
world.
There's tons of money in it, ohyeah.
Now the odds of becoming a starin it very, very uh low, but
the amount of people andindustry supporting show
(34:38):
business is massive oh, dude,there's so many levels like um,
I I always tell people like.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
People are like oh, you're a rock star.
You know I'm like no, I'm notreally a rock star, like my kids
think I'm a rock star, that'sall that matters.
You know, I always say it'slike, it's like I'm in the minor
leagues of rock stars.
You know, my kids really wantto like daddy because they think
(35:09):
that I've, I, I'm d snyder,like all the twisted scissors
songs are like that's your song.
I'm like no, it's not, but itsounds.
It sounds like you.
You know, like um, no, so daddylike sings other people's songs
, like I'm, you know, like minorleague baseball.
They're not quite like in themajors yet they're not pros, but
(35:30):
they're in the minor leagues,like that's what I do for rock
and roll music.
And then they're like oh, okay,well, that makes sense.
You're paying tribute to iconic,iconic music out there, and the
eighties, like you mentionedearlier, they're hot dude,
they're so hot, so it just kindof worked out you know, and it's
(35:51):
I don't know how, how long thelittle 80s crave is going to
last.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
It'll last because the Gen Xers are.
You know, they're the, they'rethe power group right now, right
, the.
You know the Gen Zers arecoming up.
Well, actually the Millennialsare coming up.
The Gen Zers is my son's age,but the Baby Boomers are on
(36:18):
their way out.
They're not very influentialanymore.
They're kind of just fading out.
Most of the silent generation.
Very few of them are stillalive.
So right now the majority ofthe voice is Gen Xers.
And you know, and growing up inthe 80s was just freaking
awesome.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
A lot of the music from 2000 to now is horrible.
So there's there's nocompetition really.
You know, I've actually it's.
It's funny because Not all ofit just a lot.
A lot of it is.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
You know it's such, I'll say play music from the 90s
, you know, and you getdepressed halfway through it.
You know, play music and I'lllisten to 70s, 80s music all day
long.
I love it.
But one of the things when Ifirst went and saw you, the
(37:08):
music you're singing is thatscreaming but melodic.
I mean it's actual singing.
But I mean gosh, like thehistory of Axl Rose, right when
I mean didn't his vocal cordsjust get shot, or where he
couldn't just sing those notesanymore.
He's still going, he still cando it I mean he's, he's 50s now.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
So you know, obviously it doesn't sound like
he used to vince neal.
Now that guy, he's, he's theone that he might be thinking of
.
His voice is gone, his voice is, but he's still singing too.
I mean they there's so muchopportunity and money in it,
because they are so hot.
These the brand yeah, they'renot going to walk away.
(37:52):
Now is the time you see thesebands, like guns and roses um,
getting back together.
You know, I never thoughtthey'd get back together are
they back together?
yeah, they've been, yeah,they've been touring now for
maybe like five years.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
What an amazing compilation of music they put
out.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
Yeah, but yeah, dude, it's like and here I get to
just be a local musician, itkind of like ride the coattails
on that.
Kind of like ride the coattailson that, uh.
(38:34):
But you know, I, I don't, Idon't really see myself becoming
you know famous or anything doyou write?
You know, uh, I've I've writtensongs in the past, but they
just uh, you know they I don'tknow like they just didn't work
for me.
Once I heard them, there was acouple I was all right with.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
Maybe I wasn't with the right group of guys you ever
thought about collaborating,kind of the old Elton John type
thing, where he was the musician, the singer, but he sucked at
writing lyrics.
And so somebody, a manager orsomebody said put these two guys
together the singer, but hesucked at writing lyrics.
So you know, and so somebody, amanager or somebody said put
these two guys together.
One guy sits in a room, writesa bunch of lyrics, hands them on
(39:15):
over to Elton and he, hecreates this iconic, um canon of
, of, of music, of songs.
Have you ever thought about acollaboration like that?
Speaker 4 (39:27):
I think, what, what I was doing wrong.
Uh, was it?
Every time I tried to dooriginal songs, it was with a
guitar player and I.
I don't think that works for me.
I think we, you just need toget everybody in a room together
and say hey, we're gonna do anoriginal song, what is it?
Speaker 3 (39:47):
The second time you brought that up.
What is the dynamic,specifically in your musical
journey?
What is the dynamic that is.
I don't know if it'sfrustrating, but creates a lack
of creativity when you'reworking directly with a
(40:07):
guitarist.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
Um, yeah, to me.
I'm not.
I'm a singer, I'm not amusician, so I don't know chords
, even as a musician.
Somebody tells me oh, you'relike such and such octave.
I'm like I don't know I justthink you know what I mean.
(40:30):
Sounds good to me, I'm not goingto try to pretend, like you
know, I'm some like I know a lotabout.
You know music and that kind ofthing.
But I can mimic voices, youknow, and pitches and whatever.
So I need two other musicianslike in the room with me if I'm
(40:53):
going to write a song.
You know, like here's thelyrics of the song.
You know, because the drummer'sgot a whole different idea of
what he wants to do, you know.
So you've got a guitar playerand he thinks of the riff and
then he's on one of those littleelectronic machines and he puts
in a drum beat and bass andeverybody else is supposed to
(41:14):
just go along with it.
You know, that's not what gunsand roses did.
Those guys lived in theirpractice studio and while they
were homeless and and made theappetite to destruction album
and look at, look at it todayled zeppelin.
You mentioned them.
They used to go into a cabin inthe woods we're not leaving
until we we make an album.
So that's the way to go, man.
(41:36):
But today, you know, there's alot, of, a lot of the solo
artists that just do thecomputerized stuff.
So there's something specialthat people love when they go
see guys, five of them, four ofthem on stage with real
instruments, you know, insteadof somebody that's mainstream,
(41:58):
um, with you know, six backupdancers, you know it's just.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
You know you'd make a good boy band.
You know we should think aboutthat.
You'll be not a bad idea peoplesay I look like ozzy.
Speaker 4 (42:13):
Now I get that at every show you're, you look like
you.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
You actually do with the makeup and that.
When you say you totally looklike a young Ozzy, you used to
be good looking, but yeah,you've definitely looked like
Ozzy now.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
Amy and I are going to go as Ozzy and Sharon for
Halloween.
I don't even have to dress up.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
You're kind of freaking me out now.
Give that Ozzy.
Look to the camera, Right intothe camera, right over there.
That's how you do it.
Give me a little Aussie song,Do you see?
Do you do Aussie Osborne?
Yeah, yeah, what do you?
What?
What's, what's?
Uh, what's your favorite?
Speaker 4 (42:47):
Oh, I don't have my favorites.
We do.
I'm trying to think of, orgenerals gathering their masses.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
Yeah, I love it.
Go ahead Continue.
I'm going off the rails on acrazy train.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
How does your voice put up with three hours of that?
I mean, do you, does it natural, your voice?
Speaker 4 (43:12):
your vocal cords, just like it.
Yeah, so early.
I said earlier I what I foundout about myself and about my
vocal range is like for me,screaming and singing like that
is what I'm the most comfortablewith and my voice is built for
it somehow.
I mean, I rarely lose my voicesinging four hours.
(43:36):
I could do back-to my voicesinging four hours.
I could do back-to-backs gigsfour hours.
But the second one I need acouple of days off.
But yeah, that's just mywheelhouse.
I'm a screamer, I guess, likenot death metal.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
but no, I don't like that.
You gotta find the right.
Speaker 4 (43:55):
Now the death metal?
Speaker 3 (43:56):
I don't.
I never got into that um I I'vealways enjoyed um all types.
I love all types of music, buton the heavy metal side I love
the.
When there's talent behind the,the instruments and the voice.
You know Metallica.
Great example, right Even intheir early days, where where
(44:21):
the they would, he would scream.
Yeah, I don't know why my mindjust went blank on the singer,
hetfield Hetfield.
Yeah, jeez Ryan, come on.
Ooh, yeah, I mean I love hisvoice but early on, like Kill Em
All.
I mean that's just real, verythe more intense, really working
(44:42):
those vocals, the deep growlyeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (44:44):
People love it, man, and there's not a lot of people
that can do it.
So that's how I got.
I'm so blessed.
You know there's so manytalented singers that don't
really get opportunities, butyou know, for me I just I got.
I just got lucky, dude, youknow.
Speaker 3 (45:06):
I mean, I don't know what else to say your innate
passion and we'll figure out howto define that one of these
days on the, on the podcast butaligned with your physical
talents uh, you know you.
But also hard work.
Example you took 10 years offand you sucked when you went
(45:26):
into the studio with your buddythat you hadn't talked um you
know, it's your, your voice.
Speaker 4 (45:32):
It's like a muscle it's like a bodybuilder, taking
10 years off and then trying toget back in the gym and push 300
pounds.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
You, you probably actually know paul knabe.
Um, he's an air conditioningguy too, but you know we talked
about this where he's a runner.
I used to be a runner in highschool but I, you know coach
would say, run all summer.
Of course he would know whenyou came in for cross country
and you know you're young, dumband you think, oh, I can, I ran,
(45:59):
great, and get up there and youstart running around the track
and it takes time to get backinto sure professional shape.
Speaker 4 (46:08):
Quote-unquote professional I thought my
singing days were over too.
Yeah, you know long gone.
So I mean, what was the point?
I'd sing, and you know like,maybe if I'm ever alone in the
car, but I had three kids that'snever happening does everyone
around you think you're insane?
Yeah, I did, I used to.
(46:29):
I remember going to the gym andrunning on the treadmill and
listening to my it was an AirPodback then and daydreaming about
being on the stage and beingable to sing again.
Oh, this is what I would dodifferently.
Speaker 3 (46:46):
You were strategic about it, never thought it would
happen Well strategic andintentional are the two things
that define success and thewillingness to understand that
failure is a function of success.
Okay, so you can't walk intothe studio, can't sing, because
you took so much time off.
Well, you could have walked outand said, yeah, I'm done, or
you can keep going and going Isuck.
(47:07):
No, I'm getting better, I'mreally getting better.
Okay, months and months go by.
Again we go back to hard work,right, hard and sacrifice.
Uh is the foundation of keepingyour passions alive.
Uh, out there when you'resinging, you covered.
Speaker 4 (47:23):
Name, name your top five bands you cover oh okay, so
acdc would probably be up there.
Uh, we do, uh guns and roses,not the crew.
Poison death leopard.
Um van halen, stuff like that,van halen diamond dave van halen
(47:46):
.
We do both oh, you do, you do alittle uh, yeah, we sammy sammy
, yeah, yeah, trying to think ofthe sammy is well, he's got a
little kind of a Sammy Sammy.
Yeah, yeah, trying to think ofthe song Sammy is.
Speaker 3 (47:58):
Well, he's got a little kind of a, got a little
bit of screaming too, but he'she's a lot more melodic than
yeah.
Speaker 4 (48:06):
What?
There's so many songs whenwe're doing the, the, the covers
.
There's so many songs and I, I,I can't do that Like high
squeal, you know so I, I, Ican't do that like high squeal,
you know so I, I don't do it youknow, I just stick to what what
my like little comfort zone isin my voice and I I don't try to
(48:29):
hit those high you know pitchnotes because I'm not gonna to
hit them.
Speaker 3 (48:34):
Who is your favorite artist to pay tribute to If you
had to pick one?
Speaker 4 (48:41):
To pay tribute to Kevin Dubrow, yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (48:46):
He's my number one.
I'm a huge Twisted Sister fan,so D is he's probably tied, but
I, I, uh, I.
I have this dream of being thelead singer for quiet riot
someday.
So that's, that's why I saykevin arbro all right, so we'll
(49:09):
promote this.
Speaker 3 (49:10):
Um I think I know the management company out there
we'll yeah, guys, I'm right here.
Right there, let's do a littleaudition for Quiet Riot right
now.
Give me something that they canhear.
Yeah, let's do it.
Give me a verse or two, okay.
And this is about anyinstrumental guys.
(49:31):
This guy's got some talent.
Speaker 4 (49:34):
Alright ready?
Speaker 1 (49:35):
Yeah, come on, feel the noise.
The cats rock you.
I mean, this guy's got sometalent.
All right, ready, yeah, come on, feel the noise.
The girls rock your boys.
We'll get wild, wild, wild,wild, wild, wild, yeah, woo.
Speaker 3 (49:57):
Yeah, all right, we'll get it out there.
You need to take some time offand let Dustin jump in there for
a set, or at least call you upon stage.
I could be the backup guy.
Give me that, I'll take thatyou see this is popular with
bands where they'll be likeanybody out there can play the
drums.
Well, that's all set up already, they already know the kid.
(50:20):
They've already contacted himbecause he's on YouTube doing it
or something.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
Oh yeah, yeah, but that's cool.
Speaker 3 (50:27):
Yeah, so maybe they'll call you the management
company and be quiet and saycome on to our concert.
Speaker 1 (50:31):
They're going to pick you out of the crowd Meet me.
Speaker 3 (50:33):
They're going to pick you out of the crowd.
Meet me here and we can come onout here and you can sing a
song for the band.
That'd be fantastic.
That'd be a dream come true.
Speaker 4 (50:43):
It would be.
But I do love the guys that Ihave the tribute band with.
They're just fantasticmusicians.
Man Andy and Andrew Ralphphhe's the drummer um, they had
(51:05):
this this quiet riot bandestablished, uh, and then their
singer something happened, hisvoice went out on him and then
he's moving away.
So they had, you know, likethey've had the time.
They had like 5 000 followerson facebook and they're playing
at all these crazy venues up inorange county.
There's a whole tribute sceneup there, which is awesome.
I always thought will ferrellshould have made some movie
(51:27):
about the tribute scene thesethese people, I really think
that they're like wellI was gonna ask the real artist,
that they sound and look likethem too, so it's pretty badass.
Speaker 3 (51:37):
Well, I was going to ask you about that.
So early when you were a kidyou said you did some acting and
things like this and, knowingyou from a professional realm, I
was shocked when I found outyou sing and do these 80s rock
band stuff.
Speaker 4 (51:54):
Because, while I was work, I was acting Like I was
normal.
You were working.
Speaker 3 (52:00):
Well, you're actually kind of a really at least the
personality that I knew for 15years or longer.
You're very predictable, you'revery centerlined, you're not
too emotional.
One way or the other Can alwaysexpect us to be in a certain
(52:20):
mood when we'd walk in and takecare of business, and then I see
this whole alter ego.
When you go out on stage, doyou become somebody else in your
mind for a couple hours.
Speaker 4 (52:35):
Oh yeah absolutely.
You know, I, I think that, uh,once any singer or performer
gets comfortable, then then they, that's how they feel.
You know, you're not up therepsyching yourself out.
I hope I remember the lyrics, Ihope I remember my lines and
you finally find that comfortzone.
Yeah, you're, you're completelysomebody else and uh and I you
(53:09):
love it.
You know it makes you feelspecial.
Um unique is there's.
You know there's not.
People come up, compliment you.
It makes you feel great man.
You know you ride the wave, for,like you got a show on Saturday
, you know Sunday, and thenMonday comes and you settle down
(53:29):
a little bit but, if you have areally good show that makes you
feel like Superman you know, soI, I, I cheer every time.
I feel that way, I cherish it,and I know it could be the last
time.
You never know, you know, andand and I'm.
I'm not talking about hugevenues.
They get this type of feeling,you know.
(53:49):
Uh, the largest I've everplayed was a couple thousand
people, that's it, you know.
Most of the most nights it'slike 100, 200 people, you know,
but there's two, that's you know100 200 people who see we're
entertained.
Speaker 3 (54:04):
The entertainment industry, in my opinion, lost
their way.
Um, specifically in cinema,where they stopped entertaining
people.
You know they put their agendafirst.
People are going to a show tobasically forget about the
(54:25):
mundane, their nine to five, theproblems at home, the issues
with their kids, the bills,whatever, just what everybody
deals with in life, and theyjust want to shut it off.
Yeah, and show them something.
Show them something, yeah, andpeople forget that show business
(54:46):
.
They forget the business partof show business, and you're
there to provide a product, aservice, and the service you're
providing is an escape.
People my age go to this, theseGen Xers, and they're like man.
I remember when I was out inthe parking lot smoking a
(55:07):
left-handed cigarette with mygirlfriend at that time and went
out and just had, you know, noworries in the world and I would
just take some back, and for acouple, two or three hours they
literally have forgotten theirnormal life and that's 100% on
(55:28):
the guys on stage.
So you, going up there andbecoming Dusty Rhodes, got it
right this time.
Um it.
It shows authenticity andpeople can see that.
You know, you look at what.
What's the difference between ab actor and an a actor.
Well, an a actor believes it'sso authentic.
(55:49):
They're not going.
What's my line?
Am I doing it right?
They just have become what thatcharacter is.
The same has to be for atribute band.
You have to become that singer,yeah, or else the audience
ain't going to buy it andthey're going to go.
We just threw our money away.
Speaker 4 (56:10):
Very true.
Speaker 3 (56:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (56:11):
There is so much insane competition in the
tribute scene.
I mean, there's so many talentedpeople out there.
You mentioned these older bandsthat are just limping through
their last tour, like MotleyCrue, for example.
(56:35):
We saw a tribute band that thatlooked like the younger version
and sounded like the youngerversion of motley crew.
It say sounded better thanmotley crew sounds now, you know
.
So you go into a venue and youspend ten dollars on a ticket
and you see four bands, you know, in four hours and, and they're
(56:56):
, you know, they look identicalto poison and motley crew and
quiet riot and uh, you know, Idon't know alice cooper, you
know, and they put on a just asgood of a show.
It's dude.
So that's what a lot of peopleare doing.
Because you can't get a ticket,you want to go see a real band,
(57:20):
you're dropping $300.
Speaker 3 (57:23):
Unless it's Taylor Swift, you're spending $4,000,
$3,000.
Speaker 4 (57:27):
Yeah, the ticket prices are retarded now they are
.
Speaker 3 (57:30):
They're expensive.
I like small venue.
I get much more out of it.
I can't do small venue.
I get much more out of it.
I am I.
Just I can't do big venue.
The last one I did actually wasa couple of years ago because
I'd never seen the RollingStones.
So I was in Atlanta and a buddyof mine says, hey, let's go see
the Stones.
I said never saw them.
Hopefully they live anotheryear or two.
This might be your last chance.
(57:52):
Go now.
They put on a show.
Man, I can't believe the showthey put on the energy level
that mick jagger has isoutrageous.
Uh, he, you know, he saw it.
I think it was 80 years old orsomething silly like that still
doing he's running, jumping uh,it is insane but mick jagger
jogs on a treadmill and sings.
Speaker 4 (58:13):
That's how he prepares for his his tour.
Speaker 3 (58:18):
It's something special.
I could never do that.
Well, listen, dustin, thank youfor coming out on a Saturday.
Um, I didn't think I was goingto get you today, but I know
your your schedule is tight.
What's what's what's coming upin your?
Life I'm glad we can make itwork.
I today, but I know yourschedule is tight.
What's coming up in your life.
(58:39):
I'm glad we can make it work.
I love it.
So where can people find you?
Because I'm telling you, youguys will absolutely love the
show.
It's such an escape and bringyou back to the 80s.
These guys put on an authentic,just great time, fun time you
can meet Dustin.
What's coming up on theschedule?
Speaker 4 (59:01):
Well, we've got Halo Effects.
That's the one that we do,that's the cover band.
Okay, the three-hour, four-hourshows generally.
That's down here in the SanDiego area Is there?
Speaker 3 (59:15):
a website.
Or've got a lot coming up sowe've.
Speaker 4 (59:17):
We'll just throw a facebook link on there, you know
um, and that's it's got all theupcomers perfect um, I think
it's two weeks from now is thenext one yeah, we'll throw a
link at the beginning of thispodcast and throughout um, so
they can get onto it.
Speaker 3 (59:33):
We'll put a tag up there so they can click on it
and go see.
Speaker 4 (59:36):
And same with the Metal Health up there, and those
are all Orange County shows.
That's the tribute scene,though.
Well, absolutely Wide range ofopportunity here.
Speaker 3 (59:45):
Well, if you guys are looking for an amazing night
out, relatively inexpensive GenXers out there getting out there
and just reliving your teenageyears and, of course, all the
new generations that are lovingthe 80s, dustin's bands,
dustin's enthusiasm andauthenticity in it, his voice.
(01:00:08):
You'll absolutely love it.
Speaker 4 (01:00:10):
And Amy is going to be there.
Well, yes, well, the realreason.
Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
Can she come over here?
Yeah, come on over, Amy.
Say hi to everyone.
Speaker 4 (01:00:17):
So I'm not kidding when I say that people come to
see her.
It's a team effort.
She's kind of like my manager.
Really, absolutely, come onclose, come on closer.
I'm just a bonus when you cometo these things.
Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
Well, I love it.
You guys Excellent, and thankyou so much, amy, for helping
this guy live his dream.
Yeah, and our pleasure man.
Thanks for having us here.
Absolutely Thank you.
He makes it easy to support him.
Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
So, I love doing it Love it All right guys?
Speaker 3 (01:00:54):
Well, you guys have a wonderful weekend.
And rock on, All right guys.
Well, you guys have a wonderfulweekend and rock on.
Speaker 4 (01:00:57):
All right, man.
Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
Thank you, man, give us a little lyrics before you go
.
Speaker 4 (01:00:59):
One more baby.
Oh, what do I?
What?
Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
do you?
Put me on the spot dude, ofcourse that's what I do.
Twisted Sister, you've beentalking about it all night All
right Twisted.
Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
Sister, we're not gonna take it.
No, we ain't gonna take it.
Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
We're not gonna take it, yeah you've been listening
to real people, real life.
Our passion is to have realconversations with real people
who've made it.
Real people who've made it whodid it on their own terms.
(01:01:42):
We'll be back soon, but in themeantime, catch us on Twitter or
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