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May 23, 2025 41 mins

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What if success in real estate wasn’t about selling more homes…

…but about designing a life you don’t want to escape from?


This week on the R.E.A.L. Real Estate Agent Life Podcast, we sit down with our brother, industry veteran, and quiet powerhouse Bret Johnson — a 21-year real estate pro who’s done it all: brokerages, teams, tech, market crashes, reinvention… and finally freedom.


Bret unpacks:

✅ How he built a business that runs 90% on referrals (without buying leads)

✅ Why the “admin first” model saved his sanity — and his profits

✅ The real reason most agents stay stuck in models that don’t serve them

✅ His biggest business failure (and how it led to his best life yet)


Plus: what a preschool graduation has to do with redefining success 🤯


This episode is part masterclass, part therapy session, and full of the kind of honest insight most people won’t say out loud.


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🎙 Thank You for Tuning in to the R.E.A.L. Real Estate Agent Life Podcast!


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