400 BARS FROM THE BABY GOAT || FEAT. KAH ROBERTS | | RTM PODCAST | SZN 3 | EP 15 | - Realer Than Most Podcast

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Speaker 2 (00:15):
It's White Boy D2A.
I'm Roland and we just wrappedup the craziest, craziest
interview.
Sam, hold me down for the lightskin niggas.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
I Hold me down for the light skin niggas and a
certain thing is a certain blame, is a certain package of trying
to be it.
I might have to do certainlittle things that my family can
trust in, but if this is reallythe most I can do, keep it
coming.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
If you don't, you're a motherfucking hater Wilder
than the rest of the world.
Real of the most podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
I'm Rilla, I'm White Boy D2E and this the Rilla the
Most Podcast Today.
We got family in the buildingLike seriously, like for real.
Yeah, so this ain't no, like Idon't want to say like no, made
up family Like there, thisreally family.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
And for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
Yeah, so we got Kyle Roberts in there.

Speaker 4 (01:31):
Baby, go in the building In the building, but it
do what it do, so they do the Pin the house.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Oh man.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Squad cars baby.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
Fam yeah, yeah, it is .

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Why, well, you?

Speaker 2 (01:42):
still got to give him a walk now?
No for sure.
You know, like Rob Markman,white Boy, you still got to give
him a walk now, rob Markman, nofor sure.
You know, like I mean, we gotKyle Roberts in the building,
the baby goat.
Like people don't even get tobe able to be called that.
So like for him to have anickname like that.
Then you know what type of timehe on, and like, so like, when
it comes to this music thing,right, you got artists Sometimes

(02:05):
they be like one-hit wonders.
Then you got your artists thatbe like street rappers.
Then you got your artists thatreally curate catalogs.
You know what I'm saying.
And Kyle really one of themtype of people.
If it ain't right, it ain'tright, he ain't dropping it.
If it ain't the time, it's justeverything got to be.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
We're going to get into it.
Yeah, we're going to get intoit.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
And since he came on the scene he's been dropping
like full length projects.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
You feel me yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Everybody don't do that, can't do that.
We live in a single bass era.
Yeah, he's been around it sincea pup man.
Yeah, like so we gotta get intoit, man, for sure you already
know, okay, okay, so.
So.
So, kai, like you know, youcome from south philly.

(02:52):
Growing up in south philly,that's like a smaller side, so I
just want you to give me like afew of your influences growing
up, and when I say that, I meanlike the ones that maybe like

(03:16):
been inside your house or maybelike right outside your door,
type shit.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
My main influence was growing up on the music tip was
my cousin.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Okay, feel me Zed, okay yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:29):
Shout out Zep.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Karch.
Shout out Karch.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
Zed was like a person that knew that I could rap
before I knew I could rap.
Okay, he was always telling mespit that shit, cuz.
Since before I could evencomprehend sentences for real.
Okay, you know what I'm saying.
Yeah, spit that shit you, sincebefore I could even like
comprehend sentences for real.
Okay, you know what I'm saying.
Yeah, like spit that.
You know what I'm saying?
That he gave me like a littlebit of like confidence

(03:54):
confidence and like influence,so like even just being
interested in what the rap was,or what music, you know right
spitting, just just rapping ingeneral, you feel me.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
Like.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
I never even you know what I mean Never had that
thought and I never knew I couldrap Right Like at that age, for
real, for real, because Iremember it like vividly him
telling me spit that shit.
Like put me on the spot.
Spit that shit.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
I'm like, what are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (04:26):
You feel that shit?
Yeah, I'm like, what are youtalking about?
You feel me?
Yeah, you know, that's that too.
Yeah, embracing hip-hop earlyon, like yeah, yeah, so okay,
with that being like your earlyinfluence, that's like, that's
right there.
And and like you know, zebtalented like because I've been
rapping for years, he's beengiving heat for years, like, so
like he wanted them freestyle hewanted them kings man he wanted

Speaker 3 (04:48):
the elites when they come to the freestyle he wanted
them and when it.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
When it come to making songs too, man, he wanted
them like okay, with zap rightthere and no, and you having
like the influence from him andand like watching him go crazy
and things like that give melike some of your early musical
influences, like besides,something like okay, so now that
put you on the music now as youlike, exploring the world with

(05:15):
some of some of the firstrappers or, like you know, I
mean first entertainers that you, you know, I mean, start liking
.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
Mac being state property.
Uh-huh, my mom was a wholefanatic, okay, so, like all I
heard was hope throughout thehouse.
Oh, upbringing she stayed witha crazy system okay, he was like
a neighborhood DJ banger fillme all day.
Every day you could hear themusic from the poppy store the
Chinese.

(05:41):
Still you wear the music from.
Feel me, that was just my cribright.
That is in me like it wasn'tlike yeah something that I went
out there and tried to find,like okay.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
So like okay, well, um, so basically what you
growing up in like a musicalhouse, I would say and then, and
then you got um, then you gotmac, then you got Mack, then you
got um, you got mom who likehove you know she banging hove
so like what you early listeningto them and then like you start

(06:14):
rapping, like give me, like howyou like, the first thoughts of
you, like crafting your style.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
Style was more so like getting dressed.
It wasn't never.
I never wanted, never wanted tolike rap for real, like that
shit was just came from likegetting fly, getting dressed,
and I got to a certain point Iwas picking out my own clothes
like I was like dressing myselfright and it became a thing like
in the neighborhood wherepeople knew that I dressed

(06:41):
myself, Because my mom wouldtell them, Like you know, he
dressed himself Like.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
I don't put that shit on.

Speaker 4 (06:47):
I don't do that to him, I don't get him fired or
more, and it became a thing Likecertain people in the
neighborhood that my mom used tohang with always come around
and hype me up.
He dressed himself Like youknow at an early age.
That shit like that shit.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yeah, especially like because you would do it a
little different.
So you would like you wouldwear like funny pants and stuff
like that, but they would lookdope.
So it was like so with style,it's not even like you know, you
getting dressed yourself, butyou styling yourself.
I'm not wearing what everybodyelse wear.
I'm not wearing the normal elsewear.

(07:23):
I'm not wearing a normal coolthe normal, uh, nike sweatsuit
or whatever.
I mean I'm gonna go a littledifferent urban outfitters or
whatever like where that comefrom you, just picked up on it
my mom.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
Well, my mom was that type of person.
She would take fashion risk andwear crazy looking boots and
have her hair and a crazylooking mohawk and right, feel
me be.
She was different.
She would dress like a niggaone day.
Next day, wear a dress.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Her mom was like she was different.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Her mom was on some different shit.
Ok, so just growing up withthat, you know, you just adapted
to style, just having differentstyles and being able to breach
your individuality.
Yeah, that's dope, because,like, because I mean ultimately,
like we live in a world whereit's like everybody follow
everything.
Everybody just followed thenormal.

(08:15):
You go on your phone, you seesomething that's that's normal
or that's popping, and theyfollow that like you know what I
mean so in south philly to likestep outside the box early on,
it's dope to say that's why Ialways like no car dope, like
you know what I mean.
He he's thinking outside thebox, him you got, you had a
different flow the way youapproach uh, the whole rap thing

(08:37):
for yourself was different.
I mean, and normally you don'tsee that coming from kids your
age you know, I'm saying becauseI I would.
I would hear you talk, youwould think young, you would
think different young, likewhere you think that come from
early on I was on south phillylive on like back on the dvds.

Speaker 4 (08:56):
Like you feel me um the dude that used to do it was
like one of my mom homies.
Okay, and you know me was on,meek was on that.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
DVD.
It was a lot of people, it waslike a lot of people on them.
Dvds back in the day.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
Yeah, a lot of local stars on there, yeah and I was
like five on there freestylingand you know people recognized
me from that growing up Likethey always be like damn you, a
young boy from South Philly, la,that was on there like and shit
, but I was just on therebullshit and like I wasn't like
actually rapping.
So when people would see methey'd be like yo, can you spit

(09:31):
for me?

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
And I was like I never knew how to spit for her.
It was just like I wasn'treally on there, like trying to
be like.
You know, I was just beingmyself.
He just put the camera on and Ijust was talking like right as
a kid like, and it became athing I didn't know I had on a
bucket hat with the matchingbutton up, like on some cool I

(09:53):
didn't know who I was at thattime.
You feel me but you know, likemy pop and I'm seeing like I
don't know you feel me like Iwas always different growing up.
I always used to play chess andpop used to take me to the
poppy store and play the poppyand chess right like my son
gonna beat you.
You feel me and it's likegrowing up that, that that type
of confidence from all yourpeople, it make you feel like

(10:16):
I'm you know what I?
Mean, I could do whatever.
No, it.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Do it make you feel like you know I mean the chosen
one, especially when you got itlike young like, especially when
it comes from like young, it'dbe a lot of expectations on you.
It could be good or bad, yeah,it's just all on how you balance
it.
I think you do it well, though.
It's just that like we'll getinto it All right.
So so, ok, ok, five.

(10:43):
So, ok, ok, five.
So when did you, when did youlike start crafting and really
like start paying attention to,like how you say words and write
words and and put them to theworld like, because Early on it
was probably we probably wouldsay swag rap.
You probably had back then likecoming in, but you was like

(11:04):
really like a kid, okay, we justgonna, we're gonna go there a
little bit.
All right with you in that inthat phase, right there like,
but even like that's gearing youup for like your next phase in
life.
But you even like telling yourstyle and rapping about it and
making like songs.
That's kind of catchy for kidsyour age at that time.

(11:27):
Just give me that, give me likeapproaching that for real.

Speaker 4 (11:32):
It was like I used to remember songs like super quick
from off the radio, from likebeans I could, yeah, wrap a
whole bean song and yeah at likeseven years old and that wasn't
normal.
You feel me like at the time,like I remember my folks used to
like always say, oh, he knowthe whole song.

(11:52):
He wrapped the whole song andit became like, damn, I want to
remember these songs like everysong.
I used to just try to rememberso I don't know, probably like
subconsciously, that likeformatted.
You know my style as far asmusic, like listening to Mac and
my mom was a whole fanatic, solike me repeating all that shit

(12:14):
being on a repetitive tip, justkeep hearing the same songs over
and over, like, and it probablygot embedded in me on some
early stuff.
And it probably got embedded inme on some early stuff.
But as far as getting intomusic on my own, I had to be in
like I probably was in seventhgrade.
My first time really being inthe real studio was that you

(12:39):
feel me and they threw me on thetrack.
Okay.
So was that like about 13?
Yeah, yeah, it was probablylike 13, 12, probably just
turned 13 and um, I used to seehow he record and I got
interested in it, just being inthere like on some.
Naturally, it wasn't like youknow, I'm saying they just had a

(13:00):
session and um, um, yeah, theyput me on the track, I with wop
and all um, I remember.
But, uh, before that, evenbefore that, um, I was like
getting into like trying to,trying to see how to right, yeah
, like seeing how to do it, butI could, could never really do

(13:24):
it.
Express it yeah, I could neverreally put it to how I wanted to
say it or like you feel me getit Because you had to just say
it and I remember when I used toget mixtapes because back in
the day it was mixtapes my unclewas a big person that used to
like burn discs and do mixtapes,put music on people, mp3
players and all that.
So I mp3 players and all that,so, um, I remember I tried to

(13:49):
write down what they were sayingon the mixtape.
Okay, like real early, just onsome band in the house board
yeah, and I tried to do thatwith a lot of songs, like try to
write down what they weresaying yeah and you never know.
You know I'm saying like maybe Iwas gearing myself up to, you
know, prepping myself for realand I didn't even know what I
was doing at the time.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
Absolutely, no, absolutely Subconsciously.
Mm-hmm, you, you know you'recrafting your style.
You know what I'm sayingWithout even it's just like a,
it's like a vibration thing.
You know what I mean you payingattention to sounds and the way
music is written and go out,and then you just try to mimic

(14:32):
it, craft your style from that,you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
So, with that being said, make sure y'all share,
like, subscribe, comment.
If you don't Use them up, Ihate it.
Why.
Because it's free um, I want toask you, what kind of music do
you make?
Like what's in your music, likeif you was to tell me to go
play a song that's going todescribe you, what song would

(14:59):
you say at the moment?

Speaker 4 (15:00):
side story, because it's like a real life story of
me coming up, me growing up.
I'm telling everything in thatstory.
I'm talking about everything.
That's why I say about thisproject, cards, baby 3, it's the
real me.
We speeding, we speeding, wespeeding, we speeding, we
speeding, we speeding.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
We speeding, we speeding, we speeding, we
speeding, we speeding, wespeeding.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
We speeding, we song that'll describe me that's true,
though we ain't even, we ain'teven get the 1990 right now.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
You're not there enormous enormous, but I know,
but at the moment that's justfresh on my mind, so that's
where I just jumped to.
That is like, okay, like thatis, songs before yeah, yeah, oh,
400 bars.
I didn't skip all through mybad oh, 400 bars was the song

(15:47):
that was like.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
Because I want to get to the point where you like
damn.
I know how to rap.

Speaker 4 (15:51):
That got me here 400 bars.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
400 bars.
I didn't want you to skip allthe way up there, brick.

Speaker 4 (15:55):
Thoughts Right, it was a song Brick.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
Thoughts.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
You feel me.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
Yeah, and.

Speaker 4 (16:08):
I was going through a lot at that time, you know
getting Maybe the best song,yeah getting kicked out of the
crib and I really just wasexpressing myself for real.
It wasn't like I didn't knowwhat it would become.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
That's what music is all about.
That's what it's for.

Speaker 4 (16:21):
No, I needed to get that shit out and you can hear
it in that song.
That's what it's for.
I put all my homies' names inthe song, rhymed it and it was a
big deal at the time.
Sound Cloud D's, that shit wasa big deal and that song right
there described me a lot, and400 Bars obviously.
Okay, that was the song thatreally showed everybody else.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
Now what was the time around there for?

Speaker 2 (16:46):
400 bars, that's like right before.
That's before everything that'sbeginning, that's the beginning
.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
There we go, who we talking?

Speaker 2 (16:56):
Now a little bit right after that.
Okay, 400 bars.
Cool, that's like the identity,John.
There we go.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
For sure.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
That's what I was looking for, for sure all right,
my, my, my, my toes is uh,stamp my feet, I'm here I'm here
, yeah, I'm here, yeah that wasit so like gearing up for uh
1999 theory, like give me likegear enough for that, that being
like your first uh body of work.
And then like, okay, so likeyou're a little different and

(17:26):
everybody don't know thatcatalogs are important, why?
Why was that on your mind early?
I could tell by how youstructured the tape yeah, seven.

Speaker 4 (17:37):
Well, it was like 17, 16, yeah how?

Speaker 2 (17:40):
how was that even a thought, and why is that
important to you at that time?

Speaker 4 (17:43):
Because it was like all these songs, it was like I
made some I used to commit, notused to.
I still I work so fast.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Like.

Speaker 4 (17:51):
I don't be in the studio playing Right Like I used
to see people in the studio,you know I mean messing up and
like you know, just just not.
You know, I mean so.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
So what's your?

Speaker 1 (18:01):
process.

Speaker 4 (18:02):
I used to write.
I used to write like crazy andI write like 10 songs a day and
I would record like five to sixto eight songs per session.
So it was like insane.
I was making so many songs andrunning through them.
It was like what is we going todo with all this?
But the whole thought processbehind curating that stuff into

(18:29):
an album came from me justwanting to come in, wanted to
brand myself.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
I knew I wanted to brand myself.
I knew that this music you knowwhat I'm saying this music
thing could be quick, it couldbe bubble gum.
You know I'm saying this musicthing could be quick, it could
be bubble gum, you know.
But if I brand myself and I'llmake this a project, now I have
a product.
Yeah, I knew that early on.
Like you know, I come fromhustlers like.
So, like me, being the youngestone, I learned a lot of early

(19:00):
on.
Like you know, I know what I'msaying.
As far as, like, the streaming,the distribution, I studied all
that shit.
I'm a student and whatever I do,I become like a student or
whatever I do.
You feel me so like.
When I chose to do music, Ireally studied, like what is

(19:21):
happening with this music, likewhat's the streaming about?
You know what I'm saying, whatis publishing, what is all of
that, and I studied it likeschool, like more than school.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
That's good and you can tell, though, because it's
like the way that the projectcame out.
It was like that it's a greatbody of work and it's like you
don't normally expect it to belike that well crafted from a 17
year old just coming into thegame.
It's like well crafted and it'slike you know how it is when

(19:57):
you put your first piece ofmusic out.
Everybody wait for the secondpiece of music, like, let's see,
like all right, can he reallystand it?
And then I mean you droppedagain.
So it was like okay, okay, okay, kyle here, you know.
I mean it was like you madeyour stamp in in, in, uh,
philadelphia hip-hop scene.
I mean I could say that andit's not easy to do that coming

(20:19):
out, coming right off the bat.
People struggle in't, peoplestruggle in this business.
I watch it, I see it happen, weall watch it happen.
You know what I mean.
You know sometimes talent beatwork ethic.
Sometimes people don't haveenough work ethic.

(20:40):
It seem like you got them both.
Now, when you getting okay, soyou dropped the second tape, you
came again.
Now, when you get into likethat part of your career where
the third tape come out, you'regetting more mature.
Now it's like all right.
Now it's time to like.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
That's the part I want to ask you start seeing
that you could pit your stylethat you like with your music,
your fashion with the music.
Am I right?

Speaker 4 (21:16):
For sure.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
Is that around the time?
Because the fashion already hasbeen a part of your life
already.
So once you had a chance toshow it with the music, it go
together.
You know what I'm saying, forsure.
So what made you kick into thatmove?

Speaker 4 (21:38):
Even just my first video was to be honest.
So even the aesthetics that Ihad on the video was like
different at the time.
I would say trench coat butters.
You know, like the Huff shirt Ihad on at the time, it was just
different at the time.

(21:58):
Like, looking back on it, Iknow how different it was.
Like you know, at the timepeople always tell me like
you're ahead of your time, butlike now that I'm where I'm at
now, it's like I reallyunderstand that shit, like a lot
, like I was really ahead of mytime at an early age.
You feel me like like huh, butyou know the.

(22:20):
I don't understand, butpersonifying my fashion with the
music was inevitable for me.
You know what I'm saying andit's like a, it's like a genuine
thing of just like loving,loving, yeah, loving, just
loving that shit.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
There's more, so just like loving what I'm doing.

Speaker 4 (22:48):
It was a genuine thing.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
Yes, it's the first video I have a shot ever the
baby go how you uh like whenthat name start coming about.
Give us that like, how you like, like when they first start
coming about.
Give us like how you like, likewhen they first start calling
you that you first start callingme baby.

Speaker 4 (23:05):
Go from 1999 there, because I dropped 17 songs no
features, at 17 years old we'regot that.
It was like unheard of at thetime and then people didn't
understand how the fuck I got iton Apple.
Yeah it wasn't so in front ofyour face, like it is now.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
Yeah, how you craft it.

Speaker 4 (23:23):
People was like how the fuck you got your shit on
the iTunes.
Like I'm in high school, you'relike what's going?
Like how did you do that?

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Right.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
You a baby goat.
You was on some goat shit.

Speaker 4 (23:34):
That's like different , like how normal.
Now you know, I'm saying hey,stuff on distribution, but at
that time wasn't nobody thinkinglike that.
We still on SoundCloud, weYouTube, you know that we've
been still on that piff at thetime it's like still CDs, almost
still yeah, I had CDs.
My second project, we had CDs.
Yeah, I was selling mixtapes.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
I was going in barbershops selling mixtapes.

Speaker 4 (23:56):
I caught the last little bit of that wave.
Was that 2017?
Yeah, 2017.
I caught the last little bitaway but having mixtapes.
I caught the last little bit ofthat wave.
What was that?
2017?
Yeah, 2017.
I caught the last little bit ofwave of having mixtapes and
having to hustle and, like youknow, buy this.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
You feel me Like, yeah, lil Jon Nah, man, it's
real.
That's why I be like no, that'swhy I like seeing you going
through your journey and thismusic thing is like I honestly
feel like you made for it aswell.
It's just be consistency.
So, like you know, like it's inyou, and I know sometimes that

(24:31):
it could get discouragingbecause you've been in it for a
minute and like you had a lot ofpressure on your back and you
just growing up in it Now.
I mean it could getdiscouraging at times, but you
know like those be the times youknow the best work come out.
And for real, for real, it justall come down to like, all

(24:53):
right, me really wanting to doit, all right, that's what I
really wanted to do.
I know it's going to be hard attimes, but I got to push
through, no matter what.
The music got to keep coming,because what you did was build a
core fan base.
So throughout your journey inmusic, you got your core fan
base.
That's always going to stickwith you, no matter what, and
they always want new KyleRoberts music and content.

(25:17):
And how you craft your yeah,yeah, uh projects is different
from everybody else.
So it's like you know, I meanpeople want, people want that
from you.
When it's like want it, you gotto give it, I mean so like you
gearing up to do the uh, babygoat and the baby goat 1.5, like

(25:38):
get me coming into them tapesand the Baby Goat 1.5, like get
me coming into them tapes.

Speaker 4 (25:43):
It was at a point in time where, like I stopped, like
I was being myself still, butlike it was like 1999 Theory and
Baby Goat 1 is like me havinggenuine love for it and it was
like.5, I kind of like Wave, rapWave rap.
You feel me it was like.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
You going with the wave.

Speaker 4 (26:04):
Yeah, I was trying to be something.

Speaker 2 (26:07):

Speaker 3 (26:09):
It was like it was a transition.

Speaker 4 (26:12):
You listen to other music, yeah, it was like I
started going to Atlanta.
I started traveling.
I started going to Atlanta, youknow what I'm saying.
I started traveling, I starteddoing more and it was like I was
listening to a lot of peopleand I kind of like not lost
myself.
But yeah, at 1.5, baby Goat,1.5, was like a crazy

(26:35):
transitioning period for mewhere it was like I wasn't fully
all the way staying to my coreself.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
It was like more, so going outside of the that I was,
yeah let me, let me, let me getwith this beat because these,
yeah, because they like thatsomebody told me rap like this,
or told me switched it up onthat, or I heard you know yeah,
I heard this, so I'm going with.
Yeah, always stay true andauthentic to yourself, because,

(27:03):
like that's the authenticity ofit.
Know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (27:08):
Had to learn it.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
That's why they got them.
That's why Future is who he is.
You want to listen to Future?
Go listen to Future.
You want Kyle Roberts?
Go listen to Kyle Roberts.

Speaker 4 (27:20):
I'm saying you want Kyle.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Roberts.
Go listen to Kyle Roberts,right, sometimes, right, just
like that for sure.
So that's that's good, that younoticed that.
Identify that early, yeah, andget through it, because you know
it's all, it's all, it's all apath and a journey, that's all
exactly that's it.

Speaker 4 (27:31):
I had to learn that so like?

Speaker 2 (27:33):
okay, I think so in between uh, baby goat 1.5 and
Free Notes.
Yeah, Free Notes 3, I think,yeah, it's like a little space,
right, so getting to Free Notesand family, like all right, let

(27:57):
me get back to the authenticityof Kyle Roberts.

Speaker 4 (28:00):
Free Notes, was that too.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Yeah.
It wasn't all the way.
Kyle Roberts Right.

Speaker 4 (28:05):
It was still me, that was me really trying to myself.
Okay, like Free Notes 3.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (28:10):
Because you know, the Free Notes collection was a
mixtape series of my mixtapes,exclusively on my mixtapes.
Okay, I got Free Notes one andfree notes two.
You feel me, and that's where Ihad to do not disturb freestyle
and stuff like I do not disturbfreestyle when goofy.
Right to this day, my core, thecore people that know who I am

(28:32):
know, about the do not disturbfreestyle and I was like that
was like great, like that waslike at the time, that was like
to this day, that song songstill hit the scene, you know
what I mean Like that don't loseits touch right there.
But the Free Notes 3 came aboutwith just all the miscellaneous
music I had scattered around.
I was in a transitional periodof moving to Atlanta and going

(28:57):
to college and moving back andforth and having to come back
and forth home, just goingthrough a lot Like that was like
a real period of me, like.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Getting it together.

Speaker 4 (29:08):
Yeah, getting my life together and like becoming an
adult.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
Right.

Speaker 4 (29:13):
Like more so On your own.
Yeah, like shit was happening alot Shit was happening rapidly.
I was losing friends and shityou know what I'm saying I
wasn't on some music.
Free Notes 3 was justmiscellaneous music.
That's why I really named itthe Free Notes 3.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
Is that a period of time you were figuring yourself
out Exactly.

Speaker 4 (29:35):
It was just me emptying the crates and me
trying to start fresh forwhatever else was next.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
You know, what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (29:41):
Okay, which I didn't know at the time, right, what
would come next?
But I do know that I had abunch of music, yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
That.

Speaker 4 (29:47):
I wasn't doing nothing with at that time, okay,
and I curated it into a projectwhich became Free Notes 3.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Uh-huh, you know what I'm saying yeah, you know what
I'm saying.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it.
I get it.
So it's like you know.
I mean it's just like you know.
I mean I'm just gonna put thisout, I'm gonna go ahead empty my
tank so I can go ahead and getready for whatever's next in my
journey, which I don't know whatit is right you know we'll find
out.
I mean, and this one, I thinklike okay, this one, I think k

(30:18):
Roberts coming to Kyle Roberts,because now it's like all right,
I think you start developingyour clothing line and now it's
like you're in Atlanta, you moveback now, but you still was
like back and forth back andforth you know what I'm saying.

(30:38):
Moving around doing you?
It's like all right, are yougetting in the fight?
Are you Carp's baby one?
Now?
That's like OK, now KyleRoberts on the scene.
He grown that kid.
She ain't none of that.
That is none of that, no more.
Like.
I mean, I'm a man and andthat's what I I still like at

(30:59):
that time, still like you stillwas able to craft a great body
of work.
Thank you With Carbs, volume 1,because that was like all right
, you wasn't playing on there,mm-hmm, you know what I mean.
Tell me about this first singlethat was coming up off of there
.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
The Carbs Baby 1 came about me traveling you know
what I mean going to California.
I recorded some of them outkylie, but you know I had, I had
just moved into my first, myfirst little apartment out
jersey.
You feel me like?
Um, it was another transitionalperiod.
Right through all that, I'mhappy that I was able to express

(31:38):
all like, put all that stuffout because, like you know, it's
just, it's still part of me,it's still part of my story.
Like um, yeah, the carps babyone was just like.
Yeah, like I was in that mood, Iwas on some grinding like yeah
that's when I was really like on, some really started getting to

(31:58):
it and you know, talk about itand I was still finding myself
it's like on there, still toolike on some um getting back to
it and, you know, finding thelove for music again, which was
karts baby one okay but I I feellike I I've took that one a
little bit more serious.

(32:19):
Like right, I took Kurt's BB-1a little serious, like I got to
like talk more.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
No, yeah, that's how I feel.
I feel like you was, you know,sticking and finding yourself
and getting the authenticity ofyourself.
And all right, I'm movingaround.
As you know, I'm the team I'mgoing to build my team.
I'm going around.
I don't.
As you know, I'm the team I'mgonna build my team.
I'm going and I'm not I'm gonnago get it now.
I mean a future with lord q,let's go now.

(32:47):
I mean, like people, it's justcertain things that you was
doing at that time that peopleyour age wasn't doing now.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
I mean cars, baby one .
I actually recorded a lot ofthat in atlanta.
I went to atlanta for a weekendand I challenged myself and
said I'm to get a whole tapedone in this weekend.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
I booked 10 hours.

Speaker 4 (33:06):
You feel me.
I went out there dolo by myself.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
You were serious, I was on some serious shit.

Speaker 4 (33:13):
When I made that song with Lil Q.
I went back down there twoweeks after that because I loved
the way I felt it again and itmade me feel like Damn, like
this is what this is about againyes, and that was a challenge,
you know.
I made that song on the spotthen.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
I remember the beat all day, everything right there,
that was shit was like righthead-on like him too.

Speaker 4 (33:39):
Yeah, right there that was.
Shit was like right head onlike him too.
Yeah, like we did all that shitright there.
It was real organic and the wayit came out made me like it
really made me feel like damn, Ilove this shit.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
I'm like damn, I don't to watch you, even like be
in that pocket, great for him.
Nah, man, I'm like that's,that's where you gotta go.
Nah, man, because it's like, uh, you put that together man.
Nah man, I couldn't.
I couldn't even take no creditfor that one.
I mean all Kyle.

Speaker 4 (34:04):
Yeah, niggas was trying to figure out because,
remember, we was all in there.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
Everybody was recording and shit Right.

Speaker 4 (34:10):
And I was just quiet the whole time.
I was outside the studio.
Everybody was in the studio.
It was deep as shit.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
Super deep.

Speaker 4 (34:17):
Everybody was like what isyle about to come in?

Speaker 1 (34:19):
here and say or what he about to do?

Speaker 4 (34:21):
well, he in there, working though I was quiet as
shit the whole time, because Idon't like to be in that studio
playing right like a lot ofpeople like to go to the studio
play chill, vibe or whatever.
Like I don't go in there andplay.
It's not no play.
This shit ain't no play for me,yeah, I take that shit I take
that shit serious, like yeah, tothe point where it's like I go
in there, I don't want to be allright, another take, all right,

(34:43):
another take.
No, I'm really trying toone-take this y'all you feel me
Right, right.
Like so that's what I do,that's how you know, that's how
I am.
Whatever I do, I take superserious.
So like if I'm planning ondoing a song or if I got to work
on a spot, I'm not trying tobecause I could lose the
inspiration for it.

(35:03):
That's how it is with me.
I would lose my inspiration andI would say fuck this song,
let's go to another song.
Okay, you feel me.
So it's like you got to do itwhile it's hot.
Like with me, I got to do itwhile it's hot, especially if
I'm not in my own space.
It's like all right, we got abunch of people in our studio
session.
I'm not about to be in hereplaying around Like y'all can

(35:24):
play around, but you know, feelme, I ain't just.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Let's get it done.
No, you got to respect that andit's like you know what I mean.
Like where you was at, whereyou was at in your career, like
I ain't really got time to play.
I'm trying to get this projectright and I'm trying to get it
out.
It's time to go right so Itotally understand that and it's
like, okay, alright, so yeah,carbs, baby one now Now.

(35:50):
Right now, this is where youcall right, this is where this
is where things get a littledeep and we're like where we
just go, like kai, just say, allright, carbs, baby one, on the
same verse with little q, allright, now, we're going big time
.
Now, when you go, when you comearound for carbs, baby two, you

(36:12):
got that's, that's the one withdennis, yeah and all that right
.
So okay, now, now, kase, no moreplaying, you feel me this is
where, like we come up out ofthe g league and go to the a.
Now I mean, he go, he go crazyvideos, dennis.

(36:37):
And what's the other one, lukeshot?
Uh, wheezy, wheezy.
And it was another one, yeah uh, it was written written.

Speaker 4 (36:45):
It was written yeah, it's another one too.
What's the other one?

Speaker 2 (36:49):
and um in the garage.
Yeah, that's Wheezy, that'sWheezy, right, okay, yeah.
So Wheezy, come around, dennis,come around.
It was written come around andare like great shot videos.
He putting full promotionbehind this project.
These are great singles and theauthenticity is there and he

(37:11):
rapping, rapping.
So like, okay, now give me thethought process behind that, and
like the marketing process too,because both was different,
like you know, what know?
I mean, when you came out itwas like no, it was a little
different right, I mean I guessI would say cars, baby.

Speaker 4 (37:25):
One was like the introduction of, like the
hustling okay, you feel me ofmyself, right, right, right cars
baby two was like I'm gettingto it and I'm I'm on some.
I was in the basement.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
I'm becoming who I'm trying to get out this fucking
basement.

Speaker 4 (37:40):
Okay, you feel me, I'm trying to, I'm getting money
, I'm getting to it, but like Igotta get out this fucking
basement type of thing that'swhat that whole attitude was.
It was really me like I'mserious, I'm a serious, like a
serious person type, like beingI don't give a fuck.
No more type of energy that'swhat curse.
Baby 2 was was like I got some,I got some cheese.

(38:03):
I got.
I mean, what we, what I gottado, what I'm doing like?

Speaker 1 (38:06):
what the?

Speaker 4 (38:07):
and that's, you can hear it and all that shit like
you can hear, like all that shit, you could hear it like I was
getting to it but.
I was trying to get the fuckout the basement I was recording
myself.
That's when I really startedlearning how to record myself.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (38:21):
So it was like all right, I bought pro tools, I
bought this mic, I bought thiscomputer, I bought this shit.
So, like, how am I going tolike?
What can I do?
Like, how am I going to sound?
Like, how am I going?
You feel me?
What's going to happen?
Like, and that's what it waswas, that's what that is
genuinely like me recordingmyself being in my most

(38:42):
comfortable Element in thatbasement and trying to get the
fuck out the basement.
Well, I Made beats.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
I've been making beats since.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
I was in eighth grade .

Speaker 4 (38:56):
So it was like recording myself was like making
beats eighth grade.
So it was like recording myselfwas like making beats.
So it was like I caught onpretty fast, like with uh
recording.
I just really didn't know howto engineer that well, but as
long as I, but as long as I, aslong as my voice was like not
not be like on some muff, likeon some uh staticky shit and it
was uh muffled and poppy, aslong as my shit was clear, once

(39:19):
I heard how I sound on themicrophone you always get
engineered and I was like, damn,I'm clear, like I can hear
myself, right, you feel me?
It was like, oh, this shit isover, this shit is too fun.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
And that's what it was.
It was fun, that shit got funagain for me.

Speaker 4 (39:41):
Now it's on my time.
You feel me?
Um, you mean, I'm, I wasgetting listen.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
That's when I started getting that's like that's like
a beautiful moment when youknow like, damn, I could do what
I like to do on my time yes andyou like, and you and you saw
the shift like you saw it in hiscareer.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
Yeah, you heard it and you saw it.

Speaker 4 (40:00):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
So that be important and all.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
I had to do was see the picture of him with the Pro
Tools up.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
I said, oh it's over, it's over you, always, you know
believe in yourself, invest inyourself.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
That's what it was.

Speaker 4 (40:15):
That's what it was Me doing that investing into
myself, bro, putting that moneyout on myself like, and that
shit was like it it be a pointyou like.
I don't want to do this yeah,it's like it got like right
there.
It was like I don't want to go,I don't want to have to go to
atlanta.
I didn't want.
I didn't want to have to go toatlanta because I told you I
recorded curse baby one, mostlyin atlanta, because I love the

(40:38):
way I sounded out there, yeah,so it was like so.
When I got my sessions, I justlooked at how bro was recording
me.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
You feel me, and it was like Let me learn.

Speaker 4 (40:48):
Yeah, like, let me learn this shit.
I'm paying to learn.
Let me figure this shit out.
Let me, because I don't want tohave to keep going to Atlanta
to record yeah, paying $800 fora studio and all that, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (40:59):
Take the flight.

Speaker 4 (41:00):
You feel me.
All that shit I was paying,that shit was coming out of my
pocket.

Speaker 1 (41:04):

Speaker 4 (41:04):
It's like the belief in myself was like all I really
needed.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
But it was immaculate because ultimately you got the
project done Like you believedin yourself.
You executed the plan and itsound good and for real, and for
real, for real.
I'm gonna keep it real.
That shit probably was likeyour, uh, your best work to date
, appreciate it like up untilyou drop in um this last uh work
that you, that we're gonna getinto, but to date, like that's,

(41:30):
that was your best, for sure,for sure.
It was like the grimy thirstyyeah, you can hear it, and I'm
betting on myself you can hearit because I I bought that pro
tools, I bought that computer itwas like.
You feel me.
That's what you can hear.
You can hear that shit.

Speaker 4 (41:48):
That shit was like this ain't coming out of nobody
else's budget.
Right here type of energy.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
This was like now, this kind of give you, uh uh, a
head start on some people like,even if you probably don't feel
like it, you know what I'msaying because you've been doing
this for a minute now.
You know what I'm saying, butright now, like right now,

(42:13):
there's not too many peoplethat's going to put it together.
Rap on beat.
You can make the beat right,make the beat record they self,
put the video together, make theplay with the video, even call
a feature if you want to Right,style it self and then go ahead

(42:36):
and invest it into marketing.
There's not too many peoplethat's going to do that.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
Facts.

Speaker 3 (42:41):
Saying they're going to waitfor a label and they're going to
wait for somebody in the hoodor the neighborhood that got it
going on and and try to wait forthem to do it for them you know
what I'm saying.
You've really taken the timeand initiative to go ahead and
invest into your music andfigure out the work part of it.

(43:01):
The part that people don't wantto do.
They'd rather go to the studioand pay the studio.
You know what I mean yeah um,that, right, there is a plus.
That's a head start.
Uh, that's that.
Travis scott, kanye west,that's that, I don't, don't know
the list.
Go on and on that.
Do that, but yeah, you on theright path.

Speaker 4 (43:25):
Thank you, man.
I appreciate it For sure.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
It can't get no better than that.
I had to wait on nobody.
I'm not waiting on y'all, and Iknow what my sound's supposed
to sound like.
Why?
Because I did it myself.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
Now, one thing about that are you I always bring this
up, so don't feel offendedabout this.
Are you cool with ghostwriters?
Like, would you cool withsomebody making a track fit for
Kyle Roberts?

Speaker 4 (43:52):
No.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (43:55):
I would ghostwrite for somebody.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
Okay, I would willingly do that.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
Because, you're on the creative side of things.

Speaker 4 (44:02):
Yeah, like, I would gladly take a subject from
somebody.
Yo, I think you should rapabout this.
Yeah, like, when I freestyle,that's how I like to do things
now sometimes Like yo give me atopic to rap about, right?

Speaker 3 (44:14):
And I'm going to rap a lot for that.
Yeah, off of that.
Yeah, give me a topic.
You know, I heard some rappersbe like yo, you know pharrell
gave me that you're on first manand I ain't even taking that's
supposed to be my song, likebecause people don't they not
with that goat, they not with itbut, I feel like, at these days
and time, we in a business manright so it's like that's where

(44:39):
the records yeah, I mean wegotta collaborate away.

Speaker 4 (44:43):
We're gonna collaborate, like you know, we
we do in the writing room likewe do.
I got the studio on my crib.
So, like you know, you're areal writer probably be like yo.
You might just say it like thisright, you feel me, and be like
uh, yeah, or be like yo.
You might just say this Saythis real quick.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
See how that sound.
Not my 416.
That's like taking away fromthe crowd.
Take a reference, though.

Speaker 4 (45:10):
For sure you be, like yo, I think this is sound hot.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
Yeah, we open to references.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
For sure no but, he just made it clearer for me,
because he more on the creativeside, because just listening to
his story he pretty much lettingus know he really loved us, you
know what I'm saying, he don'tplay with it.
He don't even sit in the studio.
While everybody in theresmoking and chilling, he outside
the studio writing his music.
You feel me?
So he on the creative side ofit, he rather write for another

(45:36):
artist.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
You know what I'm saying and I so, coming up with
give me coming up with FacesGlobal, give me coming up with
that.

Speaker 4 (45:48):
Faces Global.
That shit was a phase I was in,you know, we was in the
pandemic.
And I made this design onPhotoshop because I do graphics
too, like all my cover art.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
I pretty much make myself Right, right.

Speaker 4 (46:06):
So I made this graphic and it was a bunch of
faces, all these Chinese people,faces my folks, was like, and I
had wrote faces over top of itWith an.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
F though.

Speaker 4 (46:18):
I was like see how that look with a PH.
I was like damn.
That looks so decent.
I just like the way it lookedon when I typed it out Right
Faces, because it's such amulti-meaning word, like it's
like phases, but then it's faces.

(46:41):
It's like you facing phases,mm-hmm, I like that you know
what I'm saying.
Then it's the P-H.
I'm from Philly, yeah, you knowwhat I'm saying.
It's like the F and the P-Hthing is like.
And then what came about?
With the P-H thing, too, I juststarted writing down because I
journal a lot as well, so Iwrote down every word that came

(47:04):
to my mind that started with a P, and they were so powerful.
All the words that I came upwith was super powerful.
There's so many dominant wordsthat start with the letter P.
And I just you know, that's howI came up with the brand.

(47:25):
It was like faces and I putglobal at it on the back of it,
because this shit not local, youknow, Like this is a Globu
thing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I knew he was gonna bewearing masks, bro.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
I wanted to reach for masks.
Yeah, that's what.

Speaker 4 (47:35):
I started, that was my first product.
I ordered some masks.
I knew he was gonna be wearingmasks.
Like, believe it or not, I hada prediction that we would be
wearing masks, so I was alreadyahead of the curve.
As soon as the pandemic came, Istarted designing masks and I
was like damn faces.
This is a face I'm going to putfaces on a mask and I'm going to

(47:57):
sell it.
And that's what happened.
I started selling masks.
I had my little brother outthere selling masks.
We were selling masks.
I flipped the mask andreinvested it and was like all
right, what's next?
What can I do next?
And it was like um, well, since, since I'm running with
something that's for pollution,which is a mask.

(48:18):
What's what's for pollution?
What's what's pollution?
Pollution is invisible, right,so it's like, okay, what's next?
What's gonna be my next thing?
What's what else?
The invisible war.
This is an invisible war.
Okay, this is your protectionagainst the invisible war.
What else is?
What else is invisible?
What else is a invisible?
That's a form of pollutionradiation.

(48:40):
I went down the rabbit hole ofresearching radiation and emfs
electromagnetic frequencies andI created a hat to protect
people from radiation and it waslike, oh, this, this is a dope
product now, but it also goesalong with the mass thing, you
feel me.
So it was like, yeah, that'swhat was.
The whole thought processbehind me doing this brand was

(49:02):
was like, uh, the pandemic andthe world changing and the 5g
towers and me telling people, yo, that 5g is like a microwave
and you feel me and cookingstuff like that.
You feel me.
It was like me wanting to tellpeople about what I was learning
.
Right, that was crazy.
It was also wanting to, youknow, have a product and be able

(49:24):
to talk.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
Yeah to people about you know provide a product.
That's crazy, that was.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
That was because normally people just make um
product, I mean just turn aprofit never, never to help,
like help during the research,and it was to help people like
you're making it make sense thatmake you to Alright, so now
you're selling with integrity.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
It's like I'm not.
I'm selling you a product Iknow you can use that's a
product for the masses.

Speaker 2 (49:53):

Speaker 1 (49:55):
Globally 5G and radiation is global.

Speaker 4 (49:59):
It's a global phenomenon Radiation to cover
your head.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
Them joggers be out there in the sun, with the sun
beaming on the top of their head.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
We get them all hats like that.
Donate all those type of hats.
We be saving our lives.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
Like.
Nobody makes product,especially apparel, with the
mindset of helping Right.
I mean no, just to turn theproduct and style it was like
what can I do?

Speaker 4 (50:30):
that's different, but it's also me you know, yeah,
yeah yeah, so fly.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
I want to write some fly cool, so I like sticking
with that whole thing, like yeahthe radiation, the protection
and yeah it makes sense, itmakes, it makes a lot of sense
educating your people on prettymuch, I guess, the pollution
side of things when it comes toyeah I mean like I apparently

(50:55):
was on to something because likemaya, you know the lady that's
saying paper planes like getfire, like she came up with a
brand you know, years after monsand uh, she's doing the same
thing.

Speaker 4 (51:10):
She have emf products , okay so apparently I was on to
something.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
Yeah, no, for sure, for sure.
My thesis yeah, for sure,that's for sure.
And you're probably gonna see abunch of more products that's
gonna come like that, like inthe near future, because that's
the world we live in right nowthings ain't gonna do nothing
but emit more radiation

Speaker 3 (51:34):
yeah you know I'm saying people ain't gonna do
nothing, but get more help tothe shit.

Speaker 4 (51:39):
Tell the people where they can find your product
faces globalcom yeah h okay a ce s globalcom all-H-A-C-E-S
globalcom all products is onthere and also have the Dickie
set the.
Dickie set was a thing where itwas like what do people like in
my vicinity of scope that I cansell to them?
They love Dickies people from.

(52:00):
Philly love wearing Dickies youfeel me, so it was like so it
was on a exactly.
So it was on the tip of uh allright, I'm not going to reinvest
into mass again because we'renot.
We're no longer.
We started to not wear masksyeah, it's like what's the
product?

Speaker 1 (52:17):
what else?

Speaker 4 (52:17):
what's the next, what's the what I'm going to
wear and what can I wear?
That's fly, and what can thepeople wear?
That's fly.
That's also going to educatepeople at the same time, they
being fly.
And that's where it was like Ihad the invisible, got the
invisible war right here.
You feel me stitched in and allthat.
So it was like that's theeducation part of people going
to ask you what the you knowwhat's invisible war or whatever

(52:39):
, and it's like it was.
Also, the Dickie is like thisis a Philly staple thing.
Con became like and I wanted tomake the new Dickie.
I wanted to be black on, Iwanted to make a common Dickie
set.
It was me thinking outside thatwas.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
That was a great idea .

Speaker 3 (52:55):
That's fire.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
I just hear a bunch of creativeness, like throughout
this whole spill, and I'msaying you just being creative
since you jumped off the step.
Sure, I mean man, that's dope,because normally, bro, people
are just creative in their mind.
It's hard, it's so hard for aperson to actually take the
steps to execute it exactly howhard that is.

(53:17):
That's what I'm saying no forsure we all got thoughts of us
being creative and doing thingsthat we want to do, or me you
know I mean, but actually likeputting one foot in front of the
other and another foot in frontof the other to actually
execute what we're thinking.
That's where it come in.

Speaker 4 (53:32):
The mask made that real for me.
You know what I mean Seeingthat and people actually loving
the mask.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
Yeah, people love the mask.
For sure, I think I still gottwo of them.
People actually love the mask.

Speaker 4 (53:46):
People was got two of them.
You feel people actually in thecar love the mask.
People was like no, like I wearthis, like I actually like this
.
You know I'm saying so.
It was like that made it real,like damn, this was in my brain
and that was hair.
Yeah, that was like a powerfulmoment for me, like right,
seeing that come to life, likethis shit was in my brain, like
I manifested us wearing masks,like I seen this.
I seen that shit in high school, bro I was designing.
I was designing masks in highschool.

(54:07):
You feel me like and I was wellout, well out of high school
when the pandemic came aboutyeah, a couple years later, we
were three years later yeah, no,no, we weren't mad.
So it was like damn, it waslike a crazy feeling to know
that that product came from mybrain.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
That was real, like you know I mean, that's part of
being a visionary, though you'vebeen visionary your whole
career, like you know.
That's how, like you always sawyourself, you saw yourself
being a creative and creatingthe projects you've been
creating, and they also beentailored a certain way because,
um, now not even now, but likefor for a while now sometimes

(54:45):
artists just take a bunch ofsongs that they record and slap
them on a tape and name it.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
That's the tape, actually, you know what I mean
Making them cohesive issomething different, Rob Markman
you ever know your music goodand hear somebody else and they
taking off you like that happento you before.

Speaker 4 (55:05):
Yeah, for sure, for sure.

Speaker 3 (55:07):
Was it like?
Did it like all right?
Did it make you want to goharder?

Speaker 4 (55:13):
or did it make you like man, this is so cool.
I used to feel some type of wayabout it, but, like now, I
don't, because you just got toknow.
When you a leader, you know hisantics.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
You just got to know.
When you influence a lot ofthings, you know like it's, it's
natural I mean we muslim thecutter.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
What's for us is for us.

Speaker 4 (55:31):
What ain't for us, that ain't for us, right it was
always going to be for you, it'sfor you.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
You know that you're already missing that we have no
for real, I mean.
So you know, okay, carbs toocarbs, baby too.
Carps to carbs, baby to bestwork to date.

(55:55):
Not me now you, you went at it,you went at it for real and you
know now, you know you likegrowing up man, entrepreneurial,
creative curator, you know I'msaying engineer visual, like you
just basically do it all.
You know I mean still a student, and now you know, carbs baby
three on your mind.
Now just give me, like, give melike kyle roberts, like really,

(56:21):
all right, I'm, I'm, I'm ready,gear up and put out this Carp's
Baby 3.

Speaker 4 (56:29):
I'll put that together in 48 hours.
Yeah, to be honest with y'all,the whole tape, the whole tape
I'll put together in 48 hours,just feeling like I needed to
drop this, just felt like theright time, right, wow, I didn't

(56:49):
drop, no music, I gotta put.
Gotta put this stuff.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
I can't keep gig keeping this music.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (56:52):
Put it together in 48 hours to be real with y'all.
That project is like a yearlate.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
I've never been concurrent with who I am like
now you know I'm saying yeah,music has always been a year
late, or yeah every time youhear my songs, the year I'm like
.

Speaker 4 (57:06):
Now you know I'm saying yeah, music has always
been a yearly or yeah every timeyou hear my songs the year I
recorded that a year prior yeah,as you hear.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
Yeah, you never have to like that's why where I'm at
now it's like getting up to dateyeah, I'm catching myself up
with myself yeah, that makessense.
No, I know what you.

Speaker 4 (57:21):
I'm at the point where I can drop a project every
month if I want so all right, Idon't want to speed past Carps
3 like that.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
I'm going to grind you up in two seconds, all right
.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
Carps 3 is just some.
You know there's a few trackson there that's crazy, and you
know.
I just want to name them and Iwant you to tell me what's up
with them.
The first one is Small Side,the side, side Story, side Story
yeah, my bad.

(57:52):
Give me your thought processand how that coming about that
specific song.

Speaker 4 (58:00):
That song was recorded in the basement.
Remember I was telling you Iwas in the basement trying to
get out.
That's one of the songs thatwas recorded in the basement
remember I was telling you I wasin the basement trying to get
out.
That's one of the songs thatwas recorded in the basement and
, um, it was just me being.
You know me like I would.
Come on, you just gotta speakyour truth, right?
it ain't hard like that's how Iwould come on like and that's I

(58:22):
freestyle now, like I don'twrite no more, right?
So I don't know that's how thatsong came about.
Like okay, it was me likereally going in a deep trance,
free thought.
Remember it was team nike andstar nation remembering me and
my eyes was worn with the oldergraders, so now with this I
understand if they really hateus okay, I always knew I was

(58:43):
this I just never say ityeah, you know when I thought
was the one turned out basicokay, I was on a bike down to
pee with anastasia for real, forreal.
That's the reason my son asian,you gotta know that he my son.
I'ma really raise him.
I remember when I first turneda bitch crazy like little shit
like that.
Like that shit was just reallyme going digging in my past and

(59:04):
letting it out and that was areal vent, like that song.
Right was just really me goingdigging in my past and letting
it out and that was a real vent,like that song.
Right, there is really meventing.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
I'll probably like shed a tear, recording that you
know what I'm saying yeah, i'makeep it real, bro, man, when you
in them pockets, bro, I feellike you unstoppable bro, I
appreciate it.
I really do, bro, like that,beat them pockets that I really
need car and bro, and I'd belike you, like when you got
records.
Really do, bro, like that, beatthem pockets that I really need
caught.
And, bro, and I'd be like yo,like when you got records like
this bro, like, like while weplaying, I mean what are we

(59:33):
doing here?
Like you know, I mean these bethe records.
They be the records, bro, whenyou most vulnerable, bro, they
be the records.
I'd be like, come on, man, Ihad to learn that.

Speaker 4 (59:45):
Yeah, the vulnerability.
You know what I'm saying yeahyeah yeah time where it was like
I don't you know, I don't wantto reveal myself right, right
right I'm an artist yeah, soit's like being an artist.
That's what creativity is.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
It's vulnerability and then like think about it
like this, right, your pathmight help another kid in their
path.
Seriously, you never reallyknow.
Seriously, yeah, yeah, yourmusic on the platform that's
spread all over the world.
Seriously, back on the joint,like coming up with that record

(01:00:30):
and why was that important toput on the project?

Speaker 4 (01:00:33):
because it just come right on, like yeah it was a
point, it was like a whole monthor two.
It was like a whole month whereI was just recording songs,
challenging myself to rap assoon as the beat come on.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:00:46):
Instead of letting the beat build up.
No, I'm going to rap as soon asthis shit come on.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:00:51):
And I got.
I don't want to just get pastit, but I got a lot of music.
I told you it was a whole monthwhere.
I challenged myself Justrapping like that, rapping as
soon as the beat come on.
Right, you feel me Like I'mgonna rap soon as this joint
come on.
This beat, not gonna be able tobreathe.
And that's what that was backon drink it was like I was on
drink at the time.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
You ain't leaving no space.

Speaker 4 (01:01:11):
Yeah, I'm like I ain't even gonna rap, like I'm
on the drink, I'm gonna justkeep this beat.
Can't breathe right here.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
Okay, yeah, see, they be them joints too.
That's what I be saying.
It's just like the um range andum where you can go with it.
Yeah, I'm here, but I could gohere not me.

Speaker 4 (01:01:32):
That was a challenge.
That song was a chance.
Yes, yeah, I'll be here I'll behere, I'll be.

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
I can get conscious, or I could go straight.
I can go here too yeah I mean,so that'd be like yeah, I love
hearing you in that space aswell thank you yeah, yeah, them
joints, them be them joints,lombard and South.

Speaker 4 (01:01:50):
That's my shit.
That was another one of themI'm going to rap as soon as they
come on.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:01:54):
If you peep that shit come as soon as they come on,
don't breathe yeah.
I grew up a little nigga.
Go where the soldiers go, youyeah bread around games is black
colloge rope.
I'm saying niggas flexing hardwhen you know he broke.
He's gonna bullshit me aboutthe prices.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
We really know the folks like this is real life,
popping it, that's another oneof them.
Joints like in that, in thatspace, can't be with you.
Gotta like understand, man,when you get pockets, bro,
that's where it's possible to be, especially when you're growing
into who you are now.
Yeah, you got to pop it more,that's it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:33):
That's what that was.
Yeah, it's cool Sippingdrinking.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
Popping it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:37):
I was in my studio just talking shit.
That's what I realized.
It should be like ashit-talking competition.
You could talk the most shitsometimes.
Yeah, we could pop it the most.
Yeah sometimes we could talkthe most shit.
Sometimes it's not about beingsad, it's not about sometimes,
it's just talking shit, andthat's what them two songs is.

(01:02:57):
Back when I Drink Lumber, I sawyou know shit like Wheezy.
It's just that's talking shit.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
And that's the space, because, like you know, like if
we could get a consistent carin that space, then I mean
everything that you ever wantedin this shit I honestly think
you'll get.
Thanks, bro.
You just got to keep going Forsure and be consistent.
That's what it's about, Right?
You know what I mean?
It ain't going to never happenwhat we want it to happen.
The.
It ain't gonna never happenwhat we want it to happen.
The stars gotta align.
And it's like with you andeverything that you work for,

(01:03:35):
man, you deserve it, thank you,you really deserve it.
You put a lot of work in.
Appreciate you, bro, what yougot coming next.
I know you just dropped, so I Iexpect some visuals to be no for
sure?

Speaker 4 (01:03:49):
yeah, we work on a whole bunch of visuals for them
content moving around yes, I'velogged the whole drop too, oh
good 48 hours prior to medropping it, good good yeah,
yeah, I dropped.
Um, I uh recorded the wholevlog and uh the whole 48 prior
right to me dropping it that'sgreat.

Speaker 3 (01:04:08):
See, like when I was making music, it was like kind
of like fun to get in the studiorap about what you got going on
maybe what you just did thesame day going to stew you rap
about it and, um, it was fun.

(01:04:28):
We was just having fun with it.
Like some of this stuff wasfabricated.
Some of the stuff was like,yeah, we just did that and that
was I mean all right yeah thathappened up the block right but
now on, the rap game is like inyour era, is like kind of
different.
you, you know what I'm sayingLike y'all got the drill scene,

(01:04:49):
y'all got the battle rap stuffgoing on.
It's a lot of ways for anoutlet for a rapper.
You know what I'm saying, andfor y'all to release y'all music
and make a way Right.
But I know you, you move like aleader, bro, so do you find it
like difficult, like trying tomake sure that you stay in the

(01:05:11):
right lane and also maybe evenkeep your team on?

Speaker 4 (01:05:16):
on point with certain things I used to right you know
I used to, but now it's justkyle yeah, now it's like I don't
give a fuck about certain shit,oh, all right, oh, so it's just
.
Yeah, now it's like I don't givea fuck.
I used to like put a lot ofpressure on myself, right, you
feel me I'm already hard onmyself as it is.

(01:05:36):
You feel me so like certainshit.
When certain shit be out of mycontrol, I don't try to react.
I don't try to give too muchthings my attention If it's not
directly correlated to me makingsome kind of progress off it or
some kind of like beneficial,or if it's not a money play.
So it's like certain shit don'tget my attention at all.

(01:06:00):
Right, you know like it's liketo the point where you feel me.
It's like to the point where,like I, I was gambling a lot
last year.
It was like to the point whereI wouldn't want to watch a game
if I didn't have money on it.
It's that serious, yeah, yeah,yeah, I mean like I don't want
to waste my time watching nosports if I ain't making no
money I know some people likethat right, it was like, uh, and

(01:06:20):
this is that's kind of how I Iam at the point.
You know what I?

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
I am at this point in my life.

Speaker 4 (01:06:25):
Make it make sense.
Yeah, if it ain't beneficial,it can't get my attention at all
, especially this year.
I'm on some other shit thisyear, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
I'm working out, I didn't quit drinking.

Speaker 4 (01:06:35):
I didn't quit smoking , right, feel me.
It's just like I'm locked in.
I got like five, six differentbusinesses.
I'm actually a business owner,so, like I, you know he's my
babies.
He's the, the seeds that Iplanted from every year, this,
this, this where I'm, I need tosee shit start, start to grow.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
So, like everything I do now gotta make super sense
bro with um, yeah, um, yourworkout journey, man, like let's
talk about that real fast.
Like you coming upon that stopquitting, stop smoking, quit
drinking.
Like give me, give me that.

Speaker 4 (01:07:13):
Like get through a press process behind doing all
that yeah, I just was gettingtoo high, like I just was
getting too high, I was dealingwith too many chicks.
I was was like out here notfocused Like, I just felt like,
and then I had a heart-to-heartwith one of my homies.
Like one of my Mexican homies.
You feel me and he's just likehe's seen me from the outside

(01:07:35):
looking in.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
He keeps it real.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
Yeah, he just kept it real with me one day, Like what
are you doing?
Bro You're like a mess out here.

Speaker 4 (01:07:42):
like you think this is cool, like you think you know
I'm saying like they just keptit all the way real with me and
that shit resonated with me, brobecause I'm hard on myself yeah
I'm real hard on myself and Ijust was like, yeah, what the
fuck am I doing, like tippingout here and that shit, just
like me, you know, I mean then.
Then I lost my uncle.
My uncle took my uncle took hislife, took his own life, the

(01:08:05):
suicide.
Right and that shit fucked meup.

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
You feel me.

Speaker 4 (01:08:09):
Like uncle used to call me a lot Right.

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
Right right, right right.

Speaker 4 (01:08:12):
He took his own life and that shit was just like if I
sit around like it's, I gottabe moving.
You feel me?
I gotta keep myself busy.
Let's make it count.
I gotta keep myself busy, Igotta move, like thinking about
trauma, yeah you feel I got headI got a lot of trauma in my

(01:08:32):
life so it was like I gottainternalize that shit a certain
way and it can't just always bemusic you feel me sometimes I
don't want to talk no, for sureyou know what I'm saying
sometimes I just want to grindright, right, and that's what
thatis and then it came from seeing
progress.
It's like, oh, I gotta keepthis shit up like or feel me or
even just like yeah it's like Itake two days off.

(01:08:56):
I feel like I'm getting bonyand shit now a lot of discipline
yeah, real right.
It's like super disciplined,like we don't lack the knowledge
, we don't lack the motivationwe let niggas elect the
discipline.
You know, yeah and um, and thatjust came about with me Working
out in um, my habits, my dailyhabits, you know, learning

(01:09:19):
certain shit, the knowledge Istarted to pick up.
It all became like a fullcircle thing and like how I'm
hard on myself, I'm hard on thepeople around me now too, right,
make them be accountable.
Yeah, I'm real hard on thepeople around me now Because if
I'm doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
You can't make no excuses.

Speaker 4 (01:09:40):
I'm a vibrational person, so like, even if a nigga
come around me complaining, I'mgonna tell him bro, stop
complaining, bro too much, browhat?

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
the fuck is you gonna do about it right?

Speaker 4 (01:09:52):
you want to do you on point don't come around me
complaining bro we on that, bro?

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
yeah, we on action.
Tell me we gotta do somethingabout this shit.

Speaker 4 (01:10:00):
That's a fact, it's like now and I see, like now my
head clear, I see how much I wason some bullshit last year and
I might.
It might not look like I was onsome bullshit because, like you
know, I'm low key as fuck.
I felt like.

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
Yeah, you gonna know.

Speaker 4 (01:10:17):
Yeah, like I hold myself.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
You gonna know, Standard.

Speaker 4 (01:10:20):
You gonna know Like down in my head, clear, you can
see I'll be on some shit withmyself and I'll be on some with
people around me.
You gotta be we gotta step itthe up, bro.
That's how I've been.
I don't mean I like that.
I step it up, that's all that'sit that's all.

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
That's all, because people, be all tough, you feel
me, and it'd be like it'd be,and it'd be like I feel you.
I'll be wanting those thingstoo, but the only way we're
gonna get them is if we executeExactly.

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
I said it.
I said it this year.
It's 2025, man, we movingforward.
You ain't know what I'm on manit's 2025,.

Speaker 4 (01:10:56):
Bro, get out my way, man, let me go do what I gotta
do.
What you waiting on, you gonnaplay with this time that you got
here.
No, they, you waiting on.
You're gonna play with thistime that you got here.
No, they be like they went.
No, no, this our year.
Y'all this our year.
This is our year.
This is our year.
This is our year.
Ain't did nothing in that year.
Ain't accomplished it's thediscipline.

Speaker 3 (01:11:14):
Stand for somewhere.
You're gonna fall for anything,man that's a fact, bro.

Speaker 4 (01:11:18):
That is a fact.
Who get what you want?
But exactly definitely gonnatake the discipline you gotta go
get that for sure, yeah, forsure, yeah, I'm going to keep
talking about it, I'm going tokeep planning and keep planning.
Nigga, execute, go do something.
You feel me you ready, exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:11:36):
This that year, like for yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
All action, nothing but action.

Speaker 3 (01:11:43):
Last year was the year for everybody to plant the
seed if they wasn't playingthese real red bro.

Speaker 4 (01:11:48):
And I feel like this the year.

Speaker 3 (01:11:51):
Everybody should be taking action, because he gave
out the money he showed you whatthey do the money out.
That was everybody's chance toplant.
They seed and whatever they wastrying to go.
Do you feel me?
Um, I see a lot of people cameout of the pandemic like you

(01:12:13):
know what I'm saying like theygot thrown in the jungle.
They came out wearing mankswinning what life different you
feel me for them you feel me no,no question I just feel like,
yeah, we had the time to plantthe seed, now it's time to
execute.
Everybody gotta either put theirteam together and start working
towards something.
You know I'm saying seriouslyum, yeah, man, let's get focused

(01:12:39):
that's it, I'm saying make surey'all share, like, subscribe,
comment if you don't use a muff,a hater.

Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
Why?

Speaker 3 (01:12:46):
because it's free it's the real of the most
podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
I mean we got kyle roberts in the building, baby
goat and we can't pee in thehouse and we can't let him get
out of here without these games.

Speaker 3 (01:12:57):
You know I mean so I really want to ask a few more
questions bro, I'm here.

Speaker 4 (01:13:05):
I'm here, bro, I'm in Russia.

Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
You know what I'm saying Because, like, what you
doing is like stuff I wasn'tdoing at your age.
You feel me Facts, my mindwasn't even right there.
You know what I'm saying, so Ilike for the people to know you
know what I'm saying.
Like, alright, people to knowyou know what I'm saying.
Like all right, you took sometime, like you got into music

(01:13:31):
when I got into music.
I stayed in the music.
I didn't know how to get out ofit.
I was like locked in Like Icouldn't leave the studio.
You feel me.
You took your time with it.
Where was the time you was likeI need something else to back
this, or I need to take timefrom this music right now and

(01:13:51):
make sure I'm good right herewith this, because I know you
had to do that at one point, forsure, I mean I went through a
lot just as far as my livingsituation and shit.
You feel?

Speaker 4 (01:14:04):
me, I was-.

Speaker 3 (01:14:05):
Tell the people, because there's somebody out
there just like you, right?
You know what I'm saying noreal right.

Speaker 4 (01:14:11):
I mean like I ain't going front.
I had to figure that shit out.
But I birthed the business,which was faces, you feel me,
and it was just like.
It was a point in time where itwas like this is what's going
to get me to this next chapter.
You know I'm saying right andum, maybe it didn't happen quick
enough or whatever the case maybe, but um, it's when I was at

(01:14:36):
zero and I got myself out ofbands from zero, like when I had
to move from jersey and moveback with my grandma you feel me
right or I had to move in withmy grandma and really, on a
couch, so when you had to run itup, you was going to, you was
on the up and up, I was on theup and up like I'm out.
I moved from my mom crib tojersey.

(01:14:58):
You know, at the at folks cribit was fucked up.
It was like at that point intime folks crib was fucked up.

Speaker 3 (01:15:04):
It was like a lot of bad shit going on in the
neighborhood right inside, thecrib was fucked up smokers and
shit your mind and your mentalpride, like I'm in.

Speaker 4 (01:15:12):
Jersey I'm feeling good, but then I had to move
abruptly from Jersey.
I'm coming back, I'm back inthe hood.
I had to figure shit out, bro.
I had a u-haul.
I made faces drops in the u-haul, bro, like giving niggas faces
and you know certain influencergirls and paying them yo you

(01:15:34):
know, I'm saying like and that'sthe hustle part I was fucked up
at that point of time, bro like, and I ain't know how I was
gonna get out of it, but that'swhen I started taking my hustle
so serious at that point in timebecause I had to Right.
I didn't want to be such anindustry.
You know I didn't want to haveto like come from Jersey and you

(01:15:56):
know, throw myself in the field.
Now I'm back in Philly.
Now I feel like I failed orwhatever, whatever.
And it was going to grandma'shouse and getting the fuck out
of grandma's house and seeingmyself double up, and double up,
and double up, and double upDiscipline and that shit made me
like damn, I'm a fucking beast.

(01:16:16):
Like I was just on zero.

Speaker 3 (01:16:19):
I was in the negatives, bro.
Some of these things youalready understand Like yo,
listen, I'm different.

Speaker 4 (01:16:24):
When you see yourself go from zero.

Speaker 2 (01:16:26):
I can dig myself out the mud To get from zero and you
stack a dime.
I know what you, I know whatyou Come on, you know what I.

Speaker 3 (01:16:34):
That shit is a different feeling, bro, that
shit feel different, bro.

Speaker 4 (01:16:40):
It's like whew, I'm a fucking beast, I'm a champ, I
can do whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
I can do it all.
I can make it out of anywhere,in any situation.

Speaker 3 (01:16:47):
Hit me anywhere, just me.

Speaker 2 (01:16:48):
Anywhere.

Speaker 3 (01:16:49):
Yeah, Real rap, bro yeah so I wanted you to share
that with the people, becausethat's what makes some of us our
down stories Seriously, thepart where you like damn, I want
to do this music, but I got togo get right.

Speaker 4 (01:17:04):
I was going through it, bro.

Speaker 3 (01:17:06):
And all of us go through that as music artists or
somebody that want to makemusic.

Speaker 2 (01:17:10):
As men.

Speaker 3 (01:17:11):
As men.

Speaker 4 (01:17:12):
You know what I'm saying when you want to go in
and follow your dreams as men.

Speaker 3 (01:17:15):

Speaker 4 (01:17:16):
Betting it all and shit as men.
You got to you don't know ifthat shit gonna work or not.
I didn't put all my money intomy brand and I'm in the fucking
U-Haul.
You feel me, bro?
Nigga, seen me do that bro.

Speaker 3 (01:17:33):
Yo, you know what I'm saying.
So sometimes there's not noeasy way to the top.

Speaker 4 (01:17:44):
It ain't never easy.
You know what I mean?
That shit ain't never easy bro.

Speaker 3 (01:17:48):
Absolutely not.
You got someone here in one ofthose days.
They get the overnight job.

Speaker 2 (01:17:52):
But then they blow it and then they be back broke,
yeah, and then they be.

Speaker 3 (01:17:56):
I mean, I feel like if you get it easy, then you
ain't going to keep it yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:18:01):
Never.

Speaker 3 (01:18:01):

Speaker 4 (01:18:03):
Never.

Speaker 3 (01:18:04):
So the grind part be the best part, because you know
how to make it there you knowhow to get back to the top again
, if you ever fall the journey.

Speaker 4 (01:18:10):
show you how to obtain it, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
Help you to obtain it .

Speaker 4 (01:18:13):
The hustle man.
The hustle is like that shitwent to at such a young age to
prepare me to be where I'm atright now.

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
No it's a blessing.
I'm ready to flourishSuccessful businesses.

Speaker 4 (01:18:32):
Yeah, flourish yeah flourish All up from here it is.
It's like I came from nothingAll the way up from here.

Speaker 3 (01:18:43):
All the way up from here, all the way up.
How could I lose?
Now that's what it feels likelisten.
That's the real of the mostpodcast.
Make sure you share, like,subscribe, comment, repost, tag,
share if you don't use them offa hater.

Speaker 2 (01:18:52):
Why?

Speaker 3 (01:18:53):
because it's free listen, man, you're about to get
into these games real quick, uhall right kyle roberts in the
building.
Let's see what he all rightwhere he at music all right, all
right, all right.
Roberts in the building.
Let's see what he All right,where he at Music, where he
gonna go.

Speaker 2 (01:19:05):
Are you for it?
All right?
All right, all right.
It's the real of the mostpodcast and like on here we play
these games.
The first one called Fast Track.
It ain't not too crazy, youjust pick one or the other.
And because we from Philly, wegot to start State property or

(01:19:26):
major figures, state property.

Speaker 4 (01:19:28):
Okay, joey.

Speaker 2 (01:19:29):
Jahada NH.
Joey Rita Meek Meek.

Speaker 4 (01:19:30):
Core or Tor Core.

Speaker 2 (01:19:32):
Skrilla or OT7 Quani.

Speaker 4 (01:19:36):
I listen to Skrilla a little more.

Speaker 2 (01:19:40):
Draco J Cole.

Speaker 4 (01:19:42):
J Cole.

Speaker 2 (01:19:45):
Draco Kendrick.

Speaker 3 (01:19:46):
Wait, more um drake or j cole.
J cole, drake or kendrick.
Wait, I know my god, that'syour, that's your pick you said
who drake?

Speaker 4 (01:19:58):
or kendrick kendrick um rockefeller rough riders.
I gotta go rockefeller.
But as the older me Roughriders, you feel me, cause I
listen to.
I listen to styles that kidsway more.
I didn't understand them niggaswhen I was a kid, you know what
I'm saying but now I get whatthey was on.

Speaker 2 (01:20:12):
Okay, gucci man or Jeezy Jeezy Lil Baby or Dirt
Dirt EST or 4-2-Duck EST umlittle baby a dirt, dirt est, or
four, two dub est.

Speaker 3 (01:20:29):
I like this um all right, come on, take it to
Philly.

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
All right, quilly or Vodka Quilly.

Speaker 3 (01:20:44):
No, no, no, no, go right now.
What's going on?

Speaker 2 (01:20:48):
Slow on the Rico Habit Rico, that's your man,
that's my boy, uh-huh.
Who's Big China?
Or Rocky Rocky K Glizzy KGlizzy?

(01:21:11):
Or Lay Banks K Glizzy?
Help me dog.

Speaker 3 (01:21:21):
Kyle Roberts is in the building.

Speaker 1 (01:21:24):
You already know what it is, man we about to play a
couple games.

Speaker 3 (01:21:28):
We got what got to go right after Fast Track man
Balenciaga Prada.
Man, here we go.
That's the best part.

Speaker 2 (01:21:40):
Gucci or Louis, louis Givenchy or Off-White.

Speaker 4 (01:21:45):
Off-White.

Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
H&M or Urban.

Speaker 1 (01:21:54):
Urban.

Speaker 4 (01:21:56):
Urban.

Speaker 2 (01:22:02):
Zeb Carps or Young Poop.

Speaker 3 (01:22:03):
Damn, I was going to do that.
Carps.
It's cool, I got one, let's doOne.

Speaker 2 (01:22:07):
Gotta Go All right, all right, one Gotta Go is a
little bit different.
We're going to say four namesand One Gotta Go, but when they
go like they whole existence go,yeah All right, go ahead, corey
.

Speaker 3 (01:22:20):
Whole existence go.

Speaker 1 (01:22:23):
Whole existence go once you say they gotta go
alright.

Speaker 3 (01:22:27):
Alright, you ready, let's go alright.
Young poo mel love zeb carpsthat nigga lil yeah, that's
crazy, one gotta go, damn that'show you do it damn, we all know
who gotta go.

Speaker 2 (01:22:42):
Damn, that's how you do it.
Damn, we all know who got to go.
We all know who got to go.
Come on man, wait, wait, let medo it again.

Speaker 4 (01:22:54):
Let me do it again.

Speaker 3 (01:22:56):
I forgot.
Yeah, all right, young Pooh,mel Love, zev Cart, meek Mill,
one guy go.

Speaker 2 (01:23:08):
Cubs gotta go bro.

Speaker 4 (01:23:12):
I'm sticking with the fam.

Speaker 1 (01:23:13):
Who.

Speaker 3 (01:23:15):
Oh, alright, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:23:17):
I'll stick with the fam.

Speaker 3 (01:23:18):
Alright, cubs, gotta go.

Speaker 2 (01:23:20):
We on the next one, I might trade Cubs for Lizzo,
though Lizzo might got to go.

Speaker 3 (01:23:24):
I said love I ain't going to lie.

Speaker 2 (01:23:26):
He might got to go.
Lizzo might got to go out ofthat group.

Speaker 1 (01:23:30):
Did.

Speaker 2 (01:23:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:23:33):
Damn Young Pooh.

Speaker 2 (01:23:34):
I'm going to keep Lizzo.
I love Lizzo.
Better love that.
That's a hard one, though.
Zed Carps Meek Mill.
Cuzz gotta go, bro, cuzz gottago.

Speaker 3 (01:23:47):
I ain't never Cuzz, never was born.

Speaker 4 (01:23:49):
Damn, that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:23:52):
That's crazy to see that there's no Bloodhounds
without Cuzz.

Speaker 4 (01:23:55):
Yeah, that's true, there's no Bloodhounds without
Meek.

Speaker 3 (01:23:59):
There's no Bloodhounds without Mel Love it
ain't Damn.
There's no bloodhounds.

Speaker 2 (01:24:01):
Without me, there's no bloodhounds without Mel, love
it ain't Dang, there's nobloodhounds without Pooh either
man.
You trying to put Zeb in thehot seat?
Dog, zeb ain't in the hot seat,shout out.

Speaker 3 (01:24:13):
Zeb.

Speaker 1 (01:24:14):
Corp Zeb Corp is in the building.

Speaker 3 (01:24:18):
That's why.
I love these games, man,because you get to shine a light
on the artist, whether you'rekicking them out or not.

Speaker 2 (01:24:24):
No facts.
That's a big fact.
At least he's in the circle.

Speaker 3 (01:24:27):
No facts.
Facts.
They name even be board up thename is in the circles you know
what I mean Facts, facts, factsthat give people time to go
ahead and research you.
No, that's a big fact.

Speaker 2 (01:24:42):
Yeah yeah, that's a big fact.
All right, so let's go here,let's go, let's go here, let's
go, let's go.
Sexy Red Glorilla Lotto.
Cardi B One gotta go.

Speaker 4 (01:24:56):
Sexy Red Cardi B Lotto.

Speaker 2 (01:25:02):
And Glorilla and Glorella Glarilla.

Speaker 1 (01:25:04):
Mm.
I like everybody, I'll sayCardi B, yeah, cardi.

Speaker 4 (01:25:18):
Yeah, I say that too, I don't know why.
Yeah, I say Cardi just becauseI like all the other chicks'
music a little more than the.

Speaker 3 (01:25:24):
But look after K Smith told me he was like well,
I don't take it.
He's like now that make thelist a little different.
He's like you can't do thatwith Lado.
Like.

Speaker 4 (01:25:37):
I was like uh, what's the?

Speaker 1 (01:25:38):
one with the ice spice.
What are those?

Speaker 3 (01:25:40):
That's the one we should have said.

Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
Remember, we took what's the name out Cardi, cardi
, ice spice right there.

Speaker 3 (01:25:48):
Yeah, that's who was supposed to be there.

Speaker 2 (01:25:49):
Ice spice.

Speaker 3 (01:25:50):
Yeah, who got?

Speaker 1 (01:25:52):
to go.

Speaker 2 (01:25:53):
Cardi's that it still probably would be her, though.

Speaker 3 (01:25:57):
No, because Cardi would have to go for me too,
because she don't mix that list.
You feel me, and I said thatlast time.

Speaker 4 (01:26:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:26:04):
Yeah, so you got to say Ice Spice.
Yeah, she too far gone.

Speaker 2 (01:26:09):
Too far gone, all right, what about this one?

Speaker 3 (01:26:11):
Let's get it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
Jeezy.

Speaker 3 (01:26:17):
Don't say TI.

Speaker 2 (01:26:18):
Gucci Uh-huh Wayne.
Yo Gotti One got to Gucci Wayne, you got one guy go Gucci Time.
That's the whole, all right,all right Wait what Gucci said.
Gucci got to go.

Speaker 4 (01:26:33):
Let's see the names again, strictly, because I
didn't listen to the names again.

Speaker 2 (01:26:37):
Um, uh, Gucci Jeezy Wayne and Yo Gotti yeah, so
alright.

Speaker 3 (01:26:49):
Reason why I wouldn't say Gucci Is because I know he
influenced the whole South, theamigos, the thugs.

Speaker 4 (01:27:00):
I know that now, but Growing up I wasn't no Gucci fan
.
I wasn't listening to no Gucci.
I didn't even understand whatcuz was on.
I didn't feel Gucci until hecame home and he was the new
Gucci.
Right, let me keep it real.
Okay, I ain't old Gucci Neverever lemonade, all that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:21):
I didn't like none of that shit.
Alright, alright, alright.
Right here he was messing.

Speaker 3 (01:27:26):
He was killing the game.
I ain't gonna lie I know nowbut, I didn't like Gucci.

Speaker 2 (01:27:32):
I don't never know, gucci little baby, little baby
little dirt 21 Savage offset oneguy go offset damn alright,
here go the one right here.
One gotta go Offset.
Damn Alright, here go the oneright here.
One gotta go Jay-Z Puff Daddy.

(01:27:57):
Jay-z Puff Daddy.
Dr Dre Birdman One gotta go.

Speaker 3 (01:28:02):
No personal.
You gotta think about thepeople they sign, the people
they connected to all thatbefore they go.
So no personal.

Speaker 4 (01:28:09):
That's a lot of Bird and Puff.
So you get rid of the wing, Imean, but like.

Speaker 3 (01:28:14):
I can't get rid of the wing, you know what.

Speaker 1 (01:28:16):
I'm saying I can't yeah Puff.

Speaker 3 (01:28:21):
Puff got.

Speaker 2 (01:28:24):
Puff got Biggie Mary J Blige the locks.
He missed that whole era,though, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:28:28):
I was a Biggie fan, though more than Tupac, to keep
it real, the locks and all ofthem, uh-huh.
Yeah, Puff, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:28:36):
He got a girl.
He got a girl, he grew up onthat?

Speaker 1 (01:28:39):
No, man.
That's why I'm giving him abrief.
Yeah, man, that's why I'mgiving him a brief.

Speaker 2 (01:28:42):
Yeah, yeah, I know, I know, so he can go ahead and
say all right.
He know all that already, buthe like no.
It's Stan.

Speaker 3 (01:28:49):
He got to go.

Speaker 2 (01:28:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:28:51):
I feel it.
Take us out, Cole.
Let me do one more real quick.

Speaker 2 (01:28:56):
Go ahead what you got .

Speaker 3 (01:29:00):
State property.
I Like doing a state propertyon.
Make sure I do this one rightthough.
Help me out.
Man freeway, young Chris Beans.

Speaker 2 (01:29:20):
Pretty correct.
Who Neif Neif or Matt PD.

Speaker 3 (01:29:24):
Crack or Oskeno.
Oskeno who you picking?
Juni Shibu, chris Matt FreewayFreeway Can't get rid of Free.

Speaker 2 (01:29:29):
I'm not going to get rid of Free.
I'm going to get rid of Free.

Speaker 3 (01:29:35):

Speaker 4 (01:29:36):
I'm going to Chris.

Speaker 3 (01:29:43):
Matt Freeway.

Speaker 4 (01:29:45):
Can't get rid of free , can't get rid of Chris, can't
get rid of Matt.

Speaker 3 (01:29:51):
Oh god, girl Olaf, already.
Anyway, man, it's the, reallythe most podcast.
It's the really the mostpodcast.
I'm rolling.

Speaker 2 (01:29:59):
I'm white boy D2A.

Speaker 3 (01:30:01):
You already know, man , we got the baby goat in the
building.
Roberts, roberts, make surey'all follow him on instagram
yeah, carl roberts, tap in rightnow.
Face is global face is global.
You already know it's thereally the most podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:30:15):
I'm out we out man that's it really the most
podcast.
That's it.

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