COACHING FOR BUCKETS FT. CEO DUKE | RTM PODCAST | SZN 2 EP 21 - Realer Than Most Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We'll see you next time.
Rilla the Moose Podcast.
I'm your host, Rilla.
I'm Ida World Cash, I'm WhiteBoy D2A, and this is the Rilla
the Moose Podcast.
What's up, fellas man?
Today we got a member in thebuilding man Family in the

(00:33):
building.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Listen, man.
I want White Boy to do therundown.
We gonna get this right man, wegot member in the building man.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
Family in the building.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Listen, man, I want white boy to do the rundown.
We going to get this right man.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
We got family in the building today and it's
important.
It's important, it's importantfor me because it's family and
like I really respect and honorlike the work you do in the
community and like the work youdo with the artists, and you've
been doing it for 10 yearsstrong.
So like I respect that as torespect that as well, because

(01:08):
consistency is key, like that'swhat people got to understand in
this game.
That is a marathon.
It ain't about who won the race.
Yeah, it's about justcontinuing the marathon.
Right, and that's one thing Icould say about this guy that
said next to me like he's beenfully continuing the marathon
and he's been able to puthimself in a position to

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maximize on his full potentialand what I've been seeing.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
I see him carry the ball for a long time and try to
take it back home.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
You know I mean always bring it, bring me he all
around the city.
You can see him at any event.
Facts.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
When I go out of town , I'm in, I'm in Atlanta.
He at every event there.
Yeah.
Like it is like you can't missDuke man, big, tall, yeah, I
mean, he in the building, he inthe building, something I picked
up on is how to how to youthlook up to you.

Speaker 4 (02:03):
Because that's, that's how I even heard of you.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Like you haven't.
Like, yeah, the boy Duke who beputting all the young in
Southwest da-da-da, that's how.
I even heard about you in ajail cell, right, feel me Like
I'm in there with some Southwestdudes and they, big Duke, see
your dude, I'm like who that?
And then I come home, youeverywhere, like I come home,
then this stack of stuff Likeyou feel me.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
So it just was tough, but that was part of that era.
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah that wasanother era too.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
That was like we going to get into it.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
No, we ain't going to speed, we going to speed.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
That was my bad.
That was my bad.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
That.
So, we, we big on mental healthup here, bro.
So before we get into, you know, we just going to start off.
Go around actually by how theyfeeling.
You know what I'm saying.
So we're going to start offwith white boy how you feeling,
bro.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
I feel great.
Chalky gives just drop beyondbless.
Now I mean he dropped, had toshow on the same day a drop or
on the same day as his daughterhis daughter's birthday and so
watching him flourish and and bethe artist that he set out to
be is amazing.
You feel real good.
I got Duke next to me.

(03:16):
We execute in a plan really themost.
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
Let's get it.
How about you Cole?

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Man, I'm ready to work.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Say go, man, let's go everything, let's say go let's
say, let's say go man let's go,you already know.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
Yeah, I like that yeah, man.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Um, I ain't gonna hold you like you, feel me, I, I
I've been having a little.
You know, you know how you knowhow life get, but you feel me
like five, just told me beforelike you just got to have a
positive attitude about that,like about certain things.
You keep pushing, you keepgoing.
You know what I'm saying You'regoing to make the tables turn

(03:59):
eventually if you think positive, what we tell them every pod
bro.
Yeah, you know I'm a girl whenyou win, mary Pied bro.
Yeah, no, I'm growing.
You went.
Don't you lose, don't cry, theblues Shout out.
And I want to shout out Gibbsas well for making me one of the
two artists.
The complete beyond bless.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Get into it.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
You feel me of a day we he had the key gives and
Friends Beyond Bless show.
It was live performances waslive Shout out to all the
artists, my guy.
Yeah, man, he, he had meperform, you know, saying six me
, the most streamed song on thewhole.
John Six Me shout out to you.

(04:41):
Yeah, they love that.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
John, they love, they love video on the way video on
the way.
Yeah, that's me video on theway, shout out kid giz.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
But yeah, man, I feel great, man, how you dude man,
I'm feeling good, I'm feelingblessed.

Speaker 4 (04:58):
there's a lot going on, man, so I'm just taking
everything in and just you knowknow, rolling with the punches,
man, but I'm feeling highlyfavored.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
I'm feeling blessed as you should.
I'm feeling good.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
As you should.
It's a good time to be aliveman.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Yes it is, yes it is, it's a good time to be alive.

Speaker 4 (05:15):
Yes, it is, but definitely before we start off,
definitely want to give a shoutout to y'all for bringing me up
here, and I mean we was longoverdue, but, like I said, right
now it's perfect timing I got alot to talk about right now I
mean.
So once again, man, shout outto y'all keep doing the work
that y'all doing, and I meankeep putting on really the most
appreciate that, appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Appreciate that.
So you know what we do.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
Let's get it white boy, all right so you know, here
on the relative most, we do ourdue diligence up here y'all
like and banners though thatlike duke already family.
You know, I know the story, butthe story be for the people.
That.
That's like I'm saying outsideof this, at home, watching us
and like that right.
So we, we want to get down, wewant to get the whole story.

Speaker 4 (05:59):
So, duke, where you from I'm from Southwest
Southwest Philly, 61st andElmwood.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
Okay, okay.
So growing up in Southwest,right, and you know, southwest a
hard place to come up out of,especially.
I spent some of my teenageyears and, like uh, elementary
years in Southwest, that'smiddle school years.
That's a hard place to grow upout of Now, like even then.
No, I'm saying like it place togrow up out of Now, like even

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then.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
No, I'm saying like it used to be middle class place
.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, like peopleused to move up Southwest, that
was the place to go.
Yeah, that was the 70s though.
No, I'm saying, though, likeNot the 60s and 50s, southwest
got treated.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
No the 70s, yeah, and 77th and 73rd and all that.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
Oh, the 70th, the 70th.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
Yeah, the 70th, but 60th and 66th and 68th and no,
no, no, fuck, no.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
No, that was like South Philly high and spot and
it was the worst.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
That's where everybody from South Philly that
was like the up.
That was like the up, uhupgrade right there, that little
area right there, like you,left to go to Southwest, like
yeah, like that was a step up,that's what we did, remember,
guys?

Speaker 1 (07:08):
That's what we did no .

Speaker 4 (07:09):
Misha, I see Misha the homie every day.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
OK, yeah, that's what my mom did.
Like you feel me.
We moved right to 66th andWoodland.
Right in Yocum Street, whereyou was moving somewhere, where
are we going somewhere I'm goingto catherine and pepper same
shit old time.

Speaker 4 (07:26):
You was low, but you wasn't low same shit, yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
So like growing up in them times hard time.
Like give me a, a few of yourinfluences growing up, and when
I say influences I mean like thepeople that be like right in
your crib or like right outsideyour crib see, for me, my
influences was my peoples.

Speaker 4 (07:49):
That was going through hard times so, like my
dad, he was big, big time boy onthe streets, right boy um and
what's up?
that's my boy seeing the stuffthat he went through yeah that's
what kind of inspired me to bewho I am today my own, my.
I had an uncle, todd shout out.
Taj todd was a boy in southwestchampaign, 745.

(08:12):
He was, you know, I mean I wasnine.
You know I mean watching thesethings happen.
You know what I mean.
So, um, my experience and partof who I am today came from my
big brothers that I be on theblock with every day.
Everybody went through the GlennMills.
I was nine, sending my homiesand Glenn Mills money $5.
This one you only can get $5 aweek up Glenn Mills.

(08:33):
I'm nine doing this.
So I used to be in my room whenI was a kid and I used to be
like yo, I'm going to be alawyer because my dad was in
jail, my homies was goingthrough what we was going
through.
So that was like my dream.
My, you know, I got the drivefrom my people.
So, coming up in South,southwest, it was hard because

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everybody was bad.
When I was coming up, everybodywas bad.
You had the fighters you had.
It was dudes playing with gunsback then, when I was young you
get what I'm saying Dudes that Ilooked up to.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
So, coming up in Southwest, so what age your pop
wasn't around though.

Speaker 4 (09:11):
So my pop went to jail from.
I was born in 94.
In 97, my dad went to jail forfive years All right, okay, he
did five years.
Came home when I was in secondgrade.
By the time I made it to thirdgrade.
He got locked right back up,yeah and didn't come home to our

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graduate.
He literally came home the sameweek.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
I graduated from glenn mills because they say
they'd be bad, like he missed.
He missed everything, yeah.
They always say papa misseverything, yeah.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
So, um yeah, that's, that's how you know what I mean.
So that's how I came up.
I came up being inspired by mydad and the people that was
making them bad mistakes.
They was getting a lot of moneyand, um, they was going to jail
.
Everybody was going to jail.
So that was the drive for me tobe like yo.
I could still you feel me likeyo, I could be who I am and not

(10:04):
go through that, and that waslike something that I always
kept in my mind, like growing upevery day, my mind being, you
know, working two jobs, just youknow, all the little hood stuff
that you can go through.
We done been through it.
Fights the not list, you knowwhat I mean.
Just the regular day, and thenI was down South Philly a lot
too, you regular day and then Iwas down South Philly a lot too.

(10:26):
Right, you know I got SouthPhilly ties shout out to South
Philly so I used to spend sometime, some weekends, down there
um kicking it with my people.
So my growing up used to beSouthwest South Philly.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
On the weekends, yeah okay, okay so so so you know,
growing up and having pops as aninfluence on as an influence,
you basically seeing that shitlike right in your spotlight,
you ain't even gotta go nowhere.
You saying that shit, front rowcoming up like that and you
just said like that's what you.

(10:55):
You wanted to be a lawyer atfirst because you saying
everybody go to jail, like what.
Um, what was some of yourmusical influences that you
hearing Like what was thesoundtrack at this time when
your pops doing what he doing,doing what he doing Like what?
was the soundtrack at this time.

Speaker 4 (11:15):
Yo, I remember this right.
I remember my dad.
My dad bought me 10 pair of NewBalances.
I used to wear New Balancesback in the day 5-7-4?
.
Yeah, I had every color youcouldn't skip a color.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
I ain't have.

Speaker 4 (11:28):
And I was in Disney World.
I came back from Disney World.
They get locked up.
You won't let me out.
My dad got locked up.
Man, that shit, my grandpacalled me.
I'm like where my dad at helike he in jail man, that Akon
song used to have me crying.
That Akon did that was a toughmoment, like missing my dad,

(11:49):
missing, like you know what Imean that good life, not needing
for nothing.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
You know what I?

Speaker 4 (11:54):
mean.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
Because with pops going away, things ultimately
change.

Speaker 4 (11:58):
Yeah, me and my mom work hard, but I always had a
good support system.
My mom, my grandma, my grandmabeen making a hundred100 a year
since I was a kid, so we alwayshad some type of money around.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Right.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
And my grandpa was a hustler.
My dad he had back in the dayin South Philly.
This is when I was a kid.
I used to see dollar houses.
Them dollar houses was serious.
Yeah, and that's how I knewwhen I be playing back time.
I'm like I knew I was going tobe that boy.
I used to ask my grandpa whatthem dollar houses mean, that
mean a house for a dollar.
My grandpa used to have a keychain with all.

(12:32):
He owned so many properties inSouth Philly yes, he did.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
Coming up.
What's that?
Dollar houses, what's that?

Speaker 4 (12:38):
So back in the day, you really can get a house for a
dollar.
A house for a dollar, and SouthPhilly had a fucking bunch of
them.
You could just be riding aroundon every pool or every
abandoned house.
It used to say dollar house.
Back then they was gettinghouses for a dollar.
What was the?

Speaker 2 (12:56):
stipulations with them, john, you get the house
for a dollar but you pay thetaxes on it, or?

Speaker 4 (13:02):
something I didn't really know too much.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
I was a kid it and all that.
You gotta get all that allbefore my time yeah, yeah them,
jones was crazy.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah you, you want it though no, for sure I remember
that's the time right.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
So you know, you know having pops and you know him
early on and you um seeing himmove around a con.
That was the soundtrack of thetime.
Give me like when you know youcoming off the step Now R-Duke
coming off the step a little bit.
You starting to put your footin the streets and move around

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and proclaim your name.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
Wait, wait, wait.
Before you do that, make surey'all share like.
Subscribe comment.
Repost tag share.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
If you don't Everything you can do, use a
hater.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Why.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Because it's free.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
It's free 99, man, free 99.
Get it, man, let's get itJumping off the steps.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
That was one of the craziest parts for me.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
Yeah, when I jumped off the steps, I stole my step
pop gun.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
I ain't bang with him , you know what I mean.
I took him to the army.
That joint was in the basement,the block was going at it,
right, you know what I mean?
I called big bro Yo, I gotsomething for you.
I was the hero on the block.
They like what, dude, where youget this joint from.
We need that, though.
No, this for y'all.
Um, so that's literally how Ijumped off the uh, the steps,
like you know.
I mean, just being that boy inthe hood, I was one of the first

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muslims in the neighborhood, sowe was, you know, very
respected and, um, I was a knownboy in the neighborhood, even
at a kid so I used to sit on thestep a lot.
Okay, everybody ride by a beep athousand beeps a day.
I was a known boy so thatplayed me.

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Just seeing people when I'm onthe step, everybody, just seeing
the love that I was getting,that drew everybody closer.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
You and Greg G's grew up up the block from each other
.

Speaker 4 (14:59):
Yeah that was big bro Greg G's.
I used to sit on the step withhim.
He was fly.
You know, they got me by someyears.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
Right.
So talk about that, talk aboutseeing them Right.

Speaker 4 (15:09):
Well, we go back to the Reed Dollars days.
When I was nine I was workingin a barbershop.
I remember Reed had it jumping.
Reed was really that boy inSouthwestern I mean, they had
the Reggie going on.
That's when they had the Reggiegoing on.
That's when they had the Reggieback then.
Yeah, it was going down at thebarbershop.
So just growing up seeing Reedbe on the DVDs.

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Then you got Greg G's.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
He was a real spitter , but every day we up the street
chilling with him.
Hold on Around the corner,tommy Stars.
What's the other one?

Speaker 4 (15:49):
What's the other one?
What's the?

Speaker 3 (15:50):
other one that used to be with.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
Tommy stars used to be around the corner from you,
keem, oh, he's boogie.
He's boogie, yeah, keem, onGlenmore, that's what I'm saying
.
So I was really got some like,yeah, yeah, so what's really?
Imagine me growing up.
He was one of the biggest carring balls.
Imagine you growing up, youseeing every luxury.
You got this boy up the street.
He got every luxury car.
You don't know where he gettingit from.
Facts he paying for my bootsevery every winter.

(16:12):
He was my guy.
I call you.
I need some acg boots, right,my dad book every winter.
I counted on him, like I hadpeople that I counted on that's
fire, you know, I mean that'swhy I love these dudes, so I
still

Speaker 3 (16:23):
get these dudes.
Yeah, shout out to King man AceBoogie like Skinny King, yeah,
skinny.

Speaker 4 (16:27):
King, them boys was like people that I could count
on coming up.
He had the biggest car theft.
He was selling airplanes Niggawas selling yachts.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
He had one of the biggest car theft drones in the
world.
Bro, he's sending top line shitout, he's sending Off the hook.
No, they no, yes, yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Yeah, so boom.
So like I hear you say you wasin man.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
He's from all the way up.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
You was in Glen Mills so I wanted to know like did
you play any sports growing up?
Sports growing up at the timeyou talk about?

Speaker 4 (17:08):
So, bro, coming up I wasn't heavy on sports.
I had all the right peoplearound me but they couldn't
control me.
So coming up I was more heavyin religion than I was on sports
.
I used to take pride in knowing.
I used to know 60 source.
You know what I mean At a youngage.

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So that's what I was reallystudying coming up.
So when I got to that certainage of I ain't get to like
really sports until I got toGlenn Mills, Right, and when I
got to Glenn Mills I was too oldto even go through the process
of playing sports.
Yeah, so it was like for sports.
Glenn Mills helped me.
Glenn Mills taught me thatbalance.

(17:49):
You know what I mean, Because Iwent to Glenn Mills and we talk
about being in the streets.
I went to Glenn Mills for beingthorough.
Not a nigga put me in asituation that I had nothing to
do with a robbery.
I served two years for that.
So, Glenn Mills, that was likethe turning point of my life to

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me, seeing that the court systemwas really wicked.
Like imagine you think yougoing home and the bull come in
the courtroom and like no, hepointed a gun to me.
Like a gun, like I don't.
I don't even play with guns.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
I think I was up.
What year was you up there?

Speaker 4 (18:26):
I was up when it was 2011, 2011, 2013.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
yeah, I was up there with you.
Yeah, so I was up there withthem yo, I always used to be
like yo, he, I was up there withhim.
That's crazy, but so the reasonI asked you.
What I asked you, though, isbecause I I wanted to a lot of
people who in like, in like thefield, you in like always, like

(18:51):
felt it or like like manifestedcertain things like they knew
they were of story, but like, asyou was coming up and seeing
Reed and all this and all that,did you feel it like that you
was going to be different thanmost of your peers, or it just

(19:14):
went as it went.
I ain't going to lie.

Speaker 4 (19:16):
It's old heads who don't have nothing going on
right now.
They used to tell me back inthe day, duke, you going to be,
that it was old heads in thehood when I was 14, 15, it was
dudes that used to let me drivethese cars Like they'd come
through the hood.
I'm hopping in the driver'sseat, taking off for a 10-minute
spin.
They used to be like yo, duke,you going to be.
That they used to tell me.

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So I didn't know what peoplethat used to be like.
Yo, duke, you gonna be special.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
So you don't even know what you wanted to be when
you was coming up for real.

Speaker 4 (19:48):
I wanted to be a lawyer.
Okay, I wanted to be a lawyer.
That was my dream to be alawyer.
But at nine, I started workingat the barbershop.
I was working at the barbershopat nine, making $50 a day.
Then, when I turned 10, Istarted working at both of the
barbershops.
It's two barbershops across thestreet from each other.
From 9 to 12, I worked at thebarbershop, so the hustler

(20:10):
spirit was already in me.
Come on, willem.
Yeah, right on Willem.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Nabb Cutters Shout out my, but you was working for
Lose, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, lose yeah so, and I used to.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
the hustle just was always in me.
My mom used to drop me off atthe zoo when I was 12.
I used to sell Gatorades like11.
I was like 10, 11.
I was selling Gatorades outsidethe zoo for $2, $3.
That's when they had the bigGatorades, the Warders.
So that's where your hustlecomes from yeah, the hustle just
always, just like it extendsfrom my family.

(20:44):
Yeah, yeah, the hustle, justalways it extends from my family
.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
But me, I seen a hustle in myself at a young age
and nobody pushed me to do this.
It was just you asking, grandpaabout dollar houses man yeah,
so like what I?

Speaker 3 (20:54):
always noticed about you and Young, like this, even
before I even knew you, likeeven before we start
corresponding and all that, likeyou always knew a lot of people
and you always was like a, likea people person, you converse
with a lot of people.
Like you always knew how tohandle and communicate with
people, that's what I want youto do tell me about it.

(21:16):
I mean, I always noticed thatabout you, like even before I
knew you.
Knew you and startcorresponding with you and all
that.
Like like this, this kid got uma communication skill with him.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
That's like above average, right yeah what I
wanted to ask you is tell meabout the time you got out of
glenn mills and everything whereyou started, when you first
came home, how you was receivingeverything that was.

Speaker 4 (21:41):
that was that's where life really kicked in.
So in Glen Mills I had an oldhead his name Stu shout out to
Stu.
Stu used to work at Glen Millsand then he was a head head
coach at a college out inWestchester.
So, stu, I was in Glen Millsbut I was too old to play sports

(22:01):
because I went to school when Iwas out.
So Stu was my old head.
He used to like we used to talka lot, stu, when I was leaving.
Stu got the head coach job atMcElhatter University and Stu
came to me one day like yo, duke, would you wanna go to college?
I'm like yeah, he like all right, well, I got a four-ride
scholarship for you.

(22:21):
I'm like what he talking aboutfor basketball.
So I'm like damn, four-ridescholarship for basketball.
You couldn't play ball, no, Ijust had the average game.
I was the boy that you put in.
When you want to take that bigman out, you know what I mean,
I'm going in there, I'm stickingniggas 6'7", 6'2" you know,
what I mean.

(22:42):
I said 6'2 and I'm, you know, Imean like I'm.
I said 6'2, 7 foot, and I'm 6'3, 6'4, 6'5, so I was just
aggressive because I had thatsouthwest in me, you know.
I mean.
So that's what they used tolove about me.
So that's all I meant on thecourt.
But Stu gave me thatopportunity and when he gave me
that opportunity I took it.
So I went up to college and Iwent up there for two years.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
What year is this?
2012.
So 2013.

Speaker 4 (23:11):
2013,.
I go to college, I'm playingbasketball.
Then my GPA, my first reportcard.
In college, me and my dad makea bet Like yo, if I get a 3.0
gpa, you know I mean you.
We was this exchange, so theexchange was 20 000.

(23:32):
So if I get a gpa at three 3.0,you know I mean he was gonna
give me the 20 000.
I get my report card, I get a2.9.
Damn, my dad, my mom, stillpersuade my dad to give me the
money.
He give me the money.
I went, took the money.
Then I went and bought the cribthat I grew up in.
That right there was like thechain.

(23:53):
That's where a new me became.
Right Now I'm getting money,I'm selling this and that in the
streets, and then I got a house.
And this is all at 20 years old.
So it's like now I'm 20, Ididn't took that, hey.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
Now I'm ripping, I'm running, you know what?

Speaker 4 (24:09):
I mean so.
It was like at the end I woundup saying f college, because I'm
like, damn, I'm in a realestate, like my dreams start
coming true, like yo, I got myfirst property.
You just couldn't tell menothing, I'm slinging, this is
going good, I'm on a collegecampus, I'm going to college,
trapping, playing basketball andgot real estate, you know.

(24:32):
I mean so it was just like I'mthat dude, I'm that boy, you
know.
I mean you couldn't really tellme nothing like everything
going good for me.
My people's rich, I don't gotto ask them for nothing because
I'm getting my own money.
And I took pride in stuff likethat, like being a man on my own
, not saying, oh, your dad thisperson or your mom, this person,
so any given moment you couldfall down and you know that you

(24:53):
got them as a crutch right and Iain't gonna lie to you, bro
like my fault to cut you off,but were you ever scared of
losing a scholarship?
nah, when I got that, you gottathink about it.
I'm not a street boy.
I mean, I'm not a basketballplaying guy, I'm from the
trenches.
So when I got that scholarshipit was like mind blowing, but I

(25:14):
ain't really value it assomebody that played high school
basketball.
Yeah, it was like yeah, it wasjust like.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
And I ain't gonna lie to you, like I was, I be
telling them and like otherguests we be having, like I was
up the mills and all that right,and they could like, like
that's where I learned how to belike respectful and like a man.
You feel me Like all that, yeah, no, John.

Speaker 4 (25:43):
Shame, you're John also.
Before I even seen my homiesboy took me in the bathroom.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
Oh, here, take this.
What's this for?
No, you gotta let all that.

Speaker 4 (25:54):
Can't have one hair, nothing and if you refuse, you
can't refuse it, because nowit's up now it's up and they
ain't playing either.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
They ain't playing.
Ain't no restraint, no boop boplike they on that.
And yeah, bro, what?
Like as soon as they saysomething to you guys, stand
with your hands to your side hey, glenn mills look in his face
is a police.

Speaker 4 (26:14):
That's crazy, bro.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
Glenn mills could see philadelphia right now and if
it was still looping no, and,and I wanted to, and look, I
wanted to touch on that it evendo two things to you for real
when you go there.
One make you a whole differentperson in a good way or two make
you a whole different person ina bad way.
That's the only two it can do,because it's ran so tight and

(26:36):
strategic.
It can really change the personyou is, and I was gonna ask you
how your life went after glennmills, but you basically already
answered this.
So you, you, you, um, you, youknow you, real estate basketball

(26:57):
champ ah, at 20, right, so allright bet.
When was the point where likenot, it stopped.
But when was the point wherelike not, it stopped, but when
was the point where, like you,was doing it and it, like it,
came to an end like that part ofDuke life?

Speaker 4 (27:16):
I'm going to tap on that.
But before we tap on that I'mgoing to go back into Glenn
Mills.
Glenn Mills showed me.
Glenn Mills helped me withcharacter.
I didn't understand a lot ofthe stuff that glenn mills
taught me until I actually gotreal grown.
It was like yo, how did I knowhow to talk when I go in a club,
like, how did I get on the micand just start popping stuff?
Glenn mills, I was on the radiolive up glenn mills.

(27:39):
I was a radio personality upglenn mills.
But these are things that I'llbe forgetting sometimes.
Like yo, where did I get thattrait from?
Or how did I?
Glenn mills taught me this,like you said it teach you
manners.
I always been a respectful boy,but glenn mills make you it
kind of like sharpened you, youknow what I mean.
It kind of made you valuecertain people that you had
going extra for you to help you.

(28:01):
Then you had certain staff thatwas up there that it's like a
cop in the hood.
You got this cop who used toget bullied and now he got
authority.
He just taking it to the uh uh,fillmore, okay, fillmore.
So I was in fillmore.
Uh, um, now to go back in onyour question, um, that happened

(28:24):
years later.
Like it took for my homies togo to jail you know, I mean the
state federal cops to startcoming in it.
It took words, though I had towake up and was like I'm done
all right, that's how I mean.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
I was just speeding yeah, so look, so look, and that
are you coming home.
You 20 real estate, you donecollege, you home, now you
trapping, all right, music.

Speaker 4 (28:52):
Music my dad, my dad.
He had this boy from upstate,king Jaffe.
King Jaffe.
He said he used to wipeeverybody down in the yard.
So when my dad come home, theyboth come home.
My dad signed him automatically.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
Boom.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
So we running around.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
We got all the funds.

Speaker 4 (29:13):
It's crazy because you can have all the money in
the world.
If you don't got the direction,you will not succeed.
I don't care what nobody say.
I don't watch people spend$200,000 on the artist and
didn't make a dollar back.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
Because they didn't put the money in the right
places and didn't but you spent$200,000.

Speaker 4 (29:32):
You ain't nothing back.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
I didn't spend a trident, nothing, nothing.

Speaker 4 (29:36):
Like nothing back, like you know what I mean.
So my dad had the artist and Ijust was Entry.
My dad had the artist and Ijust was Retreat level.
Yeah, I was on, I just was ago-getter.
Everything I done I was ago-getter.
So one day my dad artist thishow I got the name Youngest in
Charge my dad artist was like yo, duke, if it wasn't for you we

(29:57):
wouldn't be moving.
He like man, you getting everyinterview, you getting every
performance.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
Like he said nigga you the youngest in charge.

Speaker 4 (30:04):
I looked at him I said, damn, the youngest in
charge, that's the name.
I'm rolling with that.
So I went in the street, calledthe lawyer Like yo, get
youngest in charge LLC.
I went through that proper.
You know people where it got itsituated.
But that's what put me in musicright there.
So that was the start.
From there now I go back to theblock in southwest.

(30:29):
So I got 10 homies yeah, one ofmy homies is a rapper, he show.
He proved his point to me wherefor 30 days straight he dropped
the freestyle every day, okay,and then he bombed that uh core,
uh panda freestyle and he hadone at Kora.
He said some stuff about Koralike being the hottest.
He didn't even go at Kora, hejust said he was hotter than

(30:49):
Kora, but that Kora a lot ofeyes and he was really in the
streets really doing shit.
So, he had that name.
He had the ladies that lovedhim.
He had the whole package.
Rest in peace.
Five man, that was my guy.
5 was like a solid young dude.
That was my brother.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
At this time?
Did you get the chain yet?

Speaker 4 (31:11):
Yes, oh all right.
Ok.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Damn.
Oh oh, oh, we speed.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
Damn, we really speed , don't speed.

Speaker 4 (31:18):
Because let me talk my shit now, because I'm like
Lil Boosie out here.
You know what Lil Boosie say.
Let me talk my shit now becauseI'm like Lil Boosie out here.
You know what Lil Boosie say.
He go to the motherfuckingjeweler.
When you went and did that,that was a little bit.
Listen man, you turnt it up.
Come on man.
Come on man, listen.
This stuff dang, we can reallygo down memory lane, man Shout
out.
My guy Dimitri right Shout out.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
Dim Meach Shout out to.

Speaker 4 (31:41):
Meach, because now we're going to go back right
there.
The ice.
The ice will set it off rightthere.
Right, I went from the 6'1piece.
I had the 61st Street piece.
Some dudes up out and he brokein my car, stole that, me and
Demetri come back and went viralon him.
And this is what I say.
And I felt boozy when Boozysaid that dudes be spending a

(32:04):
lot of money.
I made Dimitri over millions ofdollars to the point where it
was unlimited access.
You get what I'm saying.
Like I could go to Dimitri,walk behind Dimitri, get this,
I'm going, I'll be back my chain.
Dimitri made that for me on astrength.

(32:25):
You get what'm saying a sixtythousand dollar chain for twenty
thousand, because I made thisguy millions of dollars in these
streets.
I had everybody in southwestgoing to dimitri.
You even got your first rollyfrom dimitri, your first chain,
if you have, from southwest from2014 to 2020.
You went to dimitri.

(32:46):
So the ice that's what saidthat.
We, we all went to dimitri.
We got some, some my homies gotrollies.
I got chains.
Five drop a freestyle for 30days.
Straight from there, I meet djboo.
Boom, that's what that down Meand DJ Boo.
Dj Boo is one of them boys whohe a scout DJ.

(33:10):
Boo, y'all got to get.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
DJ.

Speaker 4 (33:12):
Boo up here.
Dj Boo was a scout.
Dj Boo said yo, these thehottest young niggas in the city
.
You know what he do.
Oh, they, my youngest DJ Booshout out you, dj Boo, dj Boo.
He's a nut, but he do a lot ofgood stuff for people and
everybody.
Don't give DJ Boo his credit.
Dj Boo done a lot of goodthings for us we just wasn't

(33:35):
business, our business mindwasn't all the way there to
actually execute the things thathe have done for us, right.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
Glad you asked, mature enough to understand that
now in your life and to say itright, because every like is
like when, when, when.
Speak on boo name they say thatman, you're nut right but he
got some good ways and goodthings he has done for people
and that he continuously do forpeople.

(34:03):
So I I I like that you did thatso, boo, put me on a jeezy play
.

Speaker 4 (34:07):
Boo said yo, dude, you want to y'all moving around,
come book Jeezy with me.
Yeah, I booked Jeezy with him.
That goes successful.
The next play P Diddy.
He like yo, you got 30 bucksfor Diddy.
Like what I said, Boo, if I putup this money it's not going to

(34:30):
you.
I need to know the owner ofthis motherfucking establishment
.
Like you, gotta walk me to theboss.
You know what I mean, boo, whathe do he call the boss up.
I said I need to know the ownerof this club, like I gotta be in
the room.
Yes, that's what separated mefrom promoters.

(34:53):
Shout out to all the promotersthat's doing their thing right
now.
But I remember these dudes whenthey was getting checks.
He was waiting outside thechair Leaders on the bench
waiting for the couple hundred Iwas in the office percentage.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
It was a very big difference,you know what I mean.
So I came in on some ball stuff, shit, you know what I mean.

(35:13):
Shout out DJ Boo.
He helped us navigate throughcertain stuff.
Shout out my guy Nye from Onyx.
I got to give a lot of peoplethese flowers Because when I
came in and I tried to do myfirst party, everybody
overlooked me.
My man, lucky, and another dude.

(35:34):
They tried to charge me $20,000to have a birthday party and to
have 100 bottles.
I go to them and say, yo, Iwant to have a party here and I
want 100 bottles.
They tell me $20,000.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
They used to have their bag back then.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
They treated me Shout out, my guy Lucky because he
came to Onyx that night of myfirst party and he grabbed me
and he said anything you everneed get with me, like my bad
about that.
I was wrong for that.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
But I was already once that.
Once I seen I bought the wholeSouthwest out.
It was a wrap over.
It was a wrap.
So yeah, I don't even needy'all.

(36:09):
It is the venue.
Yes, it's over the people we gotthe people, we got them.
So, um dang, it's so much yoand I.
This is my first time reallywhy I wanted to come up here
because when you're a workhorse,you don't be worrying about

(36:31):
getting a credit.
When you sometimes, when youstuck in that field and you work
and you grind it, you don'treally care about the credit.
What's the next play inphiladelphia?
We have to make sure we givepeople the credit.
People is out here acting likethey done this and they don't
got a team, and whole time theyhave a list of people that's

(36:53):
behind them.
That's making this shit move me.
I am an example.
I don't have a team right, Inever and the last, I'm just now
building a team, literally thisyear, because I understand how
important a team is and howimportant if you want to execute
and you want to elevate.
I can't be the nigga that'sdoing 30 things at once what I

(37:15):
used to be doing.
Now, if I got a team, they dothat, they do that.
Now I'm in the field makingmore plays, better plays.
I could extend more.
So we have to put our pride topride to the.
However, whatever y'all want tocall it, we got to give people
these flowers.
We got to give people thecredit, not just behind doors

(37:35):
like go on the internetsometimes and say shout out such
and such for doing whateverthey you know.
I mean, I know certain people.
We want to keep their plugs onthe low, but y'all got to make
people feel uh, special and makethem feel like their work is
very appreciated, because a lotof people wouldn't be moving
without their team, bro, I feelthat.
So part of me coming up here,because I feel like, like y'all

(37:58):
said, y'all know Big Duke fromthe music, the party promoting,
but they don't know Big Dukefrom the marketing.
They don't know Big Dukeclothes $100,000 deal.
Chill, we're going to get tothat.
Okay, you know what I mean.
All right, okay, all that, allright.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
Because I can tell you I can tell you it's getting
there, we're getting there, allright, so look, so look, boom,
you got the shit rolling.
You bringing them out Now youin the parties, boom Now.
Now you got to get to theseDuke parties this is the hottest
shit in the street.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
This is the perfect time for me to say what I gotta
say, though.
Go ahead, Walk in the studio.
I'm like I know who that isDuke in there.
I'm like, what is Duke doing?
He in there making a commercialfor the radio.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
He like run that joint back.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
I'm like what?
Let me hear that.
Wow, like is your right, andI'm like, listen man.
That was the transition that Iseen him going around, running
around with artists and thendoing that right there, right,
and I'm not sure where you wasat, right there with the parties
, but I know your marketing wason another level.

Speaker 4 (39:11):
I had the gels going crazy.
I was putting money in thatcommercial because I knew my
homies was going to hear it.
And then they start promotingin the gel and then I know dudes
in the gel they going to callhome and call their girlfriend,
their baby mom, you better notbe going to that nigga party.
They my promoters.
So let me go ahead and takethis 1500, two bands put it up

(39:34):
and I'm gonna have Everybody inthe jail calling they,
girlfriend, they, you better notbe going to that Party.
And then what happened?
They end up going to the party.
Because why did he call homeand say you better not be going
to that nigga duke party,something special there.
So when you tell your girl thatthey was pulling up so that was
part of my marketing schemePeople wasn't really taking that

(39:55):
.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Bro you hear this People wasn't really.
This is vicious.
This is party promoted onanother level man.
A-boo, A-Boo.
I don't know what y'all bedoing, but this one.

Speaker 4 (40:10):
Another level man shout out, my guy, nah nickels.
He showed me this, all thisgame right here.
Nah nickels showed me the radio.
He made me understand the radio.
He made me understand instagramads like this boy was killing
them on the radio and instagramads years ago.
But but, like, this is where Igot that game.
This is how I knew how to getthe Jersey crowd.

(40:32):
We was having Jersey pull upLike.
I learned that stuff from Nyerunning the club really like,
and he was open arms to megiving me the game and the
knowledge man.
So shout out, nye, a lot ofthis interview.
I'm going to be giving a lot ofpeople these flowers because
I've never done an interviewbefore to actually talk about
the different things.
It's going to be a longinterview and we're going to

(40:53):
literally and I'm going to givea lot of people these flowers
because it's the time whenyou're out and you're talking
about what's going on.
It's the time now to give thempeople these flowers.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
So look, you got party promoting.
Now you got that shit.
It's at, it's all time high.
You throwing some of the bestparties in the city, some of the
best parties in the tri-state,boom, alright.
Now you at that point, now atthis point this is what I'm
saying, you know what I mean.

(41:25):
You start getting into the themore, uh, premier artists now
you're gonna go.
Now I'm saying you more aroundyoung ka now stack of starves
being uh brought to the world,and now you're a part of that as
well.
Right, you're moving aroundwith them.

Speaker 4 (41:42):
So give me that, give me that part of your life so
that was like the transitionright there um, that was 2020
from going from like local, morelocal from from going from like
more local to like more ofmoving around.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
But what made me do that?

Speaker 4 (41:57):
that's what I'm gonna get into, what made me actually
do that and all right there,that 2020 was the year of the
transition.
That was the year when I I saidI woke up and was like I'm done
.
I had a birthday party.
The cops hit my birthday party,got my homies.
Afterwards I went home.

(42:18):
I woke up the next day andfound that out and woke up and
was like yo, I'm done, it's over, it's getting too real.
Now they right here, youtelling me they at my birthday
parties.
Now they got everybody ridingaway from my birthday party.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
I think I remember around that time.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
So you ain't have to get locked up and do a bunch of
time to say you done.

Speaker 4 (42:40):
That's why I'm blessed.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
Because I seen.

Speaker 4 (42:43):
Yo, it was so Listen.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
I just move in a house.

Speaker 4 (42:47):
Listen, I just move in a house.
Listen, I just moved in a house.
We just get my house built fromthe ground up.
It's rocks.
For three months straight Islept with my door unlocked,
thinking the Lord was coming.
I didn't do nothing, but I knowconspiracy.
You could be a dude that don'tdo nothing and still get
conspiracy.

(43:08):
So it wasn't that I doneanything because I stayed in my
lane.
That's why I'm blessed.
But just knowing that, dang youthat guy.
But you hanging around, theseguys, yeah, but I am who I am
and they who they are, and wecan't change that.
But these are the people thatthey made me who I am today.
They made me not want to gothat way.

(43:29):
They made me feel like yo Duke,no, you can go that way and you
still thorough out here andit's crazy because playing back
a little bit.
I was the underdog coming up.
When I graduated Glen Mills Ibecame a big, big dog.
That was a whole nothertransition.

(43:51):
You got little Duke that wastaking packs from people.
Now I'm a big homie to themyeah so that, right, there was
just a lot for people to take in.
Like that's my young boy, hebig dog now.
People couldn't even take that.
Like that was, that's my youngboy and he a big now.
People couldn't even take that.
Like that was, that's my youngboy.
He a big dog.
Now, right, that was hard.

(44:11):
That was hard for people totake.
So one thing 50 cent to nah.
This is really what made me go.
Which way I go?
50 cent to nah.
He said yo, nah, when youhustling, not even just in the
streets, when you are anentrepreneur, you hit a roof,
you hit a ceiling.
You can't fall in love withthis stuff.

(44:33):
Hit your ceiling, get paid andgo to the next.
And that was something.
When the pandemic came, my dadcalled me and said Duke, hold
your money.
There's an identity crisis outhere.
People don't know who is who.
People don't know what's goingto happen with the money.
He said hold your money.

(44:54):
In two years it'll be clearedup.
All the smoke and mirrors willbe cleared up.
Everybody going to go backbroke again, everybody that was
punk like my dad called this Yo,dude, slow down.
He went into hibernation.
We in a hibernation.
People look at us like damn, wewent broke.
No, we just understood that itwas a separation here.

(45:16):
So why go ahead and flex?
Yeah, why?
All the young boys that used tolook up to me?
They got this pandemic money.
Now they trying to have abottle war with me.
Duke, sit down.
What do I look like?
I just went five, six yearsstepping on these necks right
and then a pandemic come in.
All these people start gettingmoney and start poking their

(45:37):
chests out.
Oh duke, slow down, go sit downgo, fall back.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
So did you see that?
You've seen the trick, you'veseen the smoking mirrors?

Speaker 4 (45:47):
oh, I've seen it, but I had.
It took my dad my dad, you look, pay attention because I was in
the circus too.
I was tripping out whatever I.
I was going crazy, right.
But I had to understand.
When my dad called me, like you, don't fall back, you know what
I mean.
So the pandemic I stopped partypromoting, I said.

(46:09):
That made me wake up and saywait, wait, when the pandemic
was over no, the pandemicstarted and I stopped party
promoting it started at 20, likearound 2020 when it was over,
though, like 2022, 2022 right sothe 2022.
Right so the pandemic.
Two years of flex yes.
The pandemic made me understand.

(46:32):
Right.
As party promoters, I got allmy money a lot of money, from
whatever I've done, right, butas a party promoter, that was
one of my top hustles.
The clubs closed.
What do you have to do, right?
When the clubs closed, it leftevery promoter, club owner at a,
because it came out of nowhereI was about to fly to miami.

(46:53):
And then the pandemic came outof nowhere, like what the world
closed down.
You good, I'm saying so.
It was like that, right thereit hit me opening up his club yo
, it hit me.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
This is the clubs now yes.

Speaker 4 (47:08):
So that, right there, made me think like all right
now, duke, you got to really useyour intelligence, you got to
use your hustle.
This is where the hustle comingto play at.
So that's when I startwholesaling houses.
I'm a vicious middleman, like Icould make the same money as
the person that's selling aproduct, middlemanning a product

(47:28):
and not putting up nothing.
So like that was the thingsthat I learned during the
pandemic.
I learned how to wholesalehouses.
Boom, this a good homie of mine.
Before we go there, shout outTrap Street Kayan and Trap
Street Cab, free Cab.
They was the first two dudes inPhiladelphia that one of my

(47:51):
mans that I was cool with MarleyStraws, marley Straws.
I told Marley Straws yo, I wantto do a party.
Marley Straws called TrapStreet and get me on the phone
with Kion and Cav.
We pull up on Broad Street,meet each other.
They like yo, we fuck with you,man, y'all some Southwest
niggas.
Boom, let's link up.
They asked me for a littlecheck.

(48:12):
They promote my party for me.
That's when we got tight.
So right there, trap StreetKion, trap Street Kev.
They was one of the first dudesthat believe in me.
It was Southwest dudes thatknew we had tons of money, but
they didn't even back our playon the party shit.
You feel me?
So before I got there, I wantedto go there, and then I want to

(48:34):
go here.
When we talk about Philly musicscene, I want y'all
motherfuckers to put somerespect on my name, cause now
I'ma explain to y'all exactlywhat I mean when I say this.
Right, when we speak on a ZySusis's right.
Rest in peace.
Fat G's.
He found Zy Sosa.
I was Fat G's big bro.

(48:55):
Fat G's called me, said Duke,come to this show.
I want you to check my artists.
I got to the show.
It was Zy Sosa.
I seen a star when Zy Sosaperformed his first song.
I'm like what the hell this boy, fat G's got like this young
boy out of here he was skippingacross the stage.

(49:19):
He was dancing, he got hislittle, his, his nice little
curly fro he, he young, he helit.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
Robber.

Speaker 4 (49:27):
I'm like dang, I'm like yo.
So Fat G's, what he did was,instead of he know that I'm
putting the money into a lot ofdifferent artists out here he
tell me Duke, meet my artists,yeah.
So that was key word rightthere.
When he said my artists, he wassaying don't take them.
Yeah, meet my artists Likeyou't take him.

(49:48):
Yeah, meet my artist like you.
My peoples, that's my artist.
So I said, okay, I couldn't donothing because I'm like, all
right, that's his artist.
I can't cry.
I'm not one of them.
Boys, I stand on business.
Three months later, me and kyan.
I used to be up trap street,sometimes chilling with kyan zai
sosa.
I'm on instagram.

(50:08):
I see you, john zai sosa.
I need a manager, I need a team.
Yo, what's your number?
Where you at?
Come on, you know me, yan, goget the, go get, go get right.
Y'all go in that closet.
Y'all go get a, a black big bagof Montclair Gucci Louis.

(50:30):
We pull up Yo, come on.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (50:35):
I am a trendsetter, if anybody in Philly, these
dudes that y'all be thinking, nomusic and no, they look up to
dudes like me.
And a lot of people didn't seethe star in ZySusa, Right, I had
to make people see the star inZy Sousa, right, I had to make
people see the star in him yeah.
When I throw him on Instagram,mont from New Lane.

(50:56):
Yo, I got the back, bring himhere Because Zy Sousa's nephew
was with him.
Now it'll become a big war.
We got my Teefie Teefie goingto Graham.
Yo, somebody call Sosa, tellhim I got a bean for him.
So I'm like, OK, but Teefee,everybody, these are my guys.
I said, ok, everybody, it'sgetting real.

(51:17):
Now we got Fat Reese.
They threw something up, likeyo, we got the Heating up,
heating up.
Heating up.
Zy Sosa, come on with us.
They don't believe in Zy Sosa,but they see the hype.
Niggas be with whatever thehype is.
They cannot even feel it, butthey see the hype around it, so
they just with it.

(51:37):
So Boom called me.
He said damn, dude, you see thestar in Zy Sosa.
I said nigga, that's a starHang around, right, he said all
I said nigga, that's a star Hangaround.
He said all right, three monthslater that was his son.
He loved that little nigga.
He's like yo, you was rightWithin them same three months.

(52:00):
I get a call, yo.
I forgot who.
I got the call from One of them.
I don't even care who it is,what it is.
One of them called me Yo, zySosa say he ain't signing with
nobody that's not from NorthPhilly.
Huh, okay, I'm going to keepballing, I'm going to keep

(52:22):
playing.
Now they signed.
Wait, wait, wait, wait wait,wait.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
You not going to do that.
You're not gonna speedball likethat yo I got it.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
That's exactly why philly people can never get at a
certain level, bro.
And it's funny, bro, because Iwas, uh, in a predicament where
I used to have a job, rightsmack dead.
Where is our social from youngboy?
Love that like bro, he loves 16for Sisu at his peak they was

(52:58):
out there like that shit wasfucking what's the block in
Hollywood, everybody be onHollywood Boulevard, ocean Drive
, in the middle of Sisu.
Be more, bro, everybody be onhollywood boulevard, bro, they
used to be out there ocean drive, in the middle of sisu b more
bro, like at his peak, like Iused to be, like yo.
These young boys and theydefinitely do be on that like

(53:20):
the north philly or north phillyversus everybody take time like
like, that's what take timeespecially around that time
where it was like fat G's ZySosa Lil.

Speaker 4 (53:32):
Dog Rob Markman.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
Lil.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
Dog Priceless he not from.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
North but.

Speaker 3 (53:36):
Right.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
Yeah, but he was with them though, yeah Like yeah, it
was like a bunch of young boys.

Speaker 4 (53:42):
They was on some.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
North Priceless On some North Philly or nothing
type of time he was.

Speaker 4 (53:47):
But so that was the car that I got.
I was salty, hold up, hold up.
So you just moved on, oh no, no, no, no, no, no, my bad y'all,
I'm speedballing.
Fuck that.
Before we get to Ty Sosa, let'sgo to Rico Havoc we're going to
start there.

(54:11):
We're going to start all the wayback there.
Shout out to the twins right,this is how much, bro, my boy
listen, we're gonna go backthere.
This is where music really getinteresting.
Right, I'm a lit 20 year old insouth philly.
Everybody I mean in southwesteverybody think I'm older than
what I am.
We got money, but we don'tunderstand the business Twins.
They're from Rico Havoc Block.
I got five, we running, werunning.

(54:35):
We got Southwest on Smash, butthey got Southwest on Smash too,
but we just running.
It was just a little differencein it.
Right, they calling me forweeks Yo Duke, we need you, you,
we need you.
These is my people.
Rico abic been my littlebrother since elmwood skating
ring my young shout out when hewent to virginia was making

(54:57):
beats like this.
Shit is on facebook, him writingme big bro, I produce now and
this is before all this, right,right, they calling me yo duke,
we need you.
We need you.
I don't know how to take it in.
I don't know how to handle it.
Yeah, I'm like yo.
I can't manage two artists atonce.
When I got into the field Ididn't think that you could
manage two artists at once.

(55:17):
Yeah, so I don't manage ricohavoc, that's what I do.
Mont brown was somebody that Iwas inspired by.
On the community givebacks yeah, philanthropy.
We went to the SouthwestKickback Festival.
Shout out to Mont Mont Brown,let us perform there, just

(55:38):
knowing what we was doing.
Right, and I was inspired byMont right.
So it's like we, like a monthin Rico and them got Southwest
on fire.
Now because he got the, he gotthe hits with the music, he got
the, he got the song.
So we pulling up on Popeye's on52nd and Woodland.

(55:58):
You got a thousand people outthere at a video shoot.
This is no shooting, no,nothing.
This is Southwest United.
You feel me All love.
I say dang.
Mont Brown was someone whoalways wanted his dream was
music.
Yep.

Speaker 3 (56:15):
That's what I go do Just ask, and not shit and all
that.

Speaker 4 (56:17):
I call Mont Brown, I say yo, mont, come outside Mont.
How been my will.
I take Mont to the trap.
Rico and them had this trapcrib on their block.
I take Mont to the trap, ricoand them had this trap crib on
their block.
I take Mont to the trap crib.
Yo, Rico meet Mont Brown.
Mont Brown meet Rico, he withy'all, just like that.
I don't know the business, Idon't know about the time and

(56:40):
day now.
They wouldn't have fell becauseI would have known business,
I'd have had a percentage ofthat, I'd have been able to
watch that, I'd have got to findthis feed.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
It's so much that I did not know you could have been
involved, then if you knew, I'mjust being thorough.

Speaker 4 (56:55):
Mont Brown is somebody that I respect.
Yo go ahead, go make the play,what Mont Brown and them go do.
They made the play.
Rico got a deal Atlantic.

Speaker 3 (57:03):
Records Nick records.

Speaker 4 (57:04):
I say that People don't knowabout that.
I don't run around talkingabout I made this, I don't got
time to do that, but that'sstuff that people, when we talk
about music in Philadelphia withthis new generation, my name
need to be brought up and onething I'm going to say is I know
people only respect boards.
Points on a board.

(57:25):
I'm just now getting my firstbucket, so I get that, but
niggas ain't fucking with me.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
So look though all the failures and all the stuff
you went through, like some ofthose moves right now, like what
you just said with Rico andMount Brown, you know how to go
about that right now.
I'm hot right now.

Speaker 4 (57:45):
Come on, oh, I'm about to show them.
Matter of fact, I'm going toshow them right now.
On, oh, I'm about to show them.
Matter of fact, I'm gonna showthem right now.
I'm about to run that sameplayback in times.
Right now, I'm about to showthem with the business acumen
though I'm a hundred percent wayyou get what I'm saying.
Like we ain't even gonna go,like what we could have done.
I'm about to show them right nowyes, I know the business, I

(58:05):
know the business and I'mgetting better.
Shout out to my guy, kennyBlake, that's my teammate right
there.
We doing some good businessright now Shout out Kenny Blake.
Kenny.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
Blake, kenny Blake, everyone everywhere.
Yeah, kenny Blake, shout out.
Kenny Blake, that's my big bro,that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (58:27):
I grew up Kenny up to as an entrepreneur.
He had a barbershop in my hoodfor 20 years.
Now.
We doing business and we doingright business and we standing
on business.
If y'all can ask these artists,they eating, they deals is good
.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
We can show the paperwork.
I ain't gonna speak cause wegonna get to that, but listen,
boom, so look.

Speaker 4 (58:47):
I gotta talk my shit man these niggas be watered down
.
Y'all be giving the wrongniggas.

Speaker 3 (58:53):
Hold on, I'm about to roll something else out.
Alright, so look.
All that we got all that RicoHavoc, rico Havoc, young KA.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
So now we gonna get the Young K Z Young.

Speaker 3 (59:06):
K-A no.

Speaker 4 (59:07):
So now we're going to get the young K Hold on Zai
Sosa.
So we went Rico Rico, zai Sosa,zai Sosa.
Now we go.
Young K, now we go young K.
Yeah, come on, I tell y'all Iwas going through hard.
So I took a loss, a major loss,and this is why I say I'm
blessed, because God will reallyshow you you can have it all
and really be.
I had a 10-year run Like neverlooked down at all for 10 years

(59:30):
straight.
I hit a hard brick wall one dayand lose it all Right, and lose
it all.
And the person that I am yeah,I got a dad, I got a mom, I got
a grandma.
None of them knew that I tookthat loss Right, grandma.
None of them knew that I tookthat loss right.
I hustled up for nine monthsstraight to get back to where I

(59:53):
needed to be.
I wasn't around.
I came outside every day Iwasn't around, people fussing
and you know when dudes broke,they all the negative energy in
the world when you broke, you soangry, right, I took that
because the man that I am am, Idon't like people to feel like I
need them.
So, with me being, with thatbeing said, I work right.

(01:00:14):
Boom, this is my man.
He called me one day duke.
I need you I said all right, you, my guy, k this shit, fire what
what we on.
He pull up on me.
I tell him.
I said, hey, boom, I'm goingthrough hard financial times
right now, but I'm going to getright back, like I'm going to

(01:00:37):
get back, but understand that Ihave a mission, young is in
charge.
I got to score a bucket withYoung is in charge.
I can help you because you, myguy, and I want you to win.
But I got to get back to weain't going to be here, this
ain't a forever thing.
We get into business.

(01:00:58):
I say yo now you know I'mcoming off a promotion, so now
we running around, I'm a hustler.
K was the only artist in thepandemic that got booked In the
pandemic.
He was the first artist I seenwe got a booking out Connecticut
.
Yeah, during the pandemicsomebody rented a big house and
just took the whole backyard andthrew a concert.

Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
Hell.

Speaker 4 (01:01:21):
So we working, we running around, we working, and
I did a lot of stuff for Stackof Starves.
If people don't know, you knowwhat I mean.
I was a K-tour manager.
Yeah, I was a good marketer,yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
Great marketer.

Speaker 4 (01:01:37):
And I was a great asset to the team.
I helped people, I empoweredpeople, I gave people knowledge
of different things, as bookings, as a lot of different stuff
that I didn't know in the past,that I know, that people didn't
know.
I gave them game on.

Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
You did well over there, bro.
You did well over there.

Speaker 4 (01:01:57):
Things didn't go right over there.
It wasn't a good fit for me.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
So look, getting into that.
I'm going to let you get intothat.
Don't cut him off.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
I know, I know why wasn't a good fit.
No, go ahead.
Why wasn't a good fit?
He going to get into it, my bad.

Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
Look when you was White boy, be saving niggas.

Speaker 4 (01:02:10):
No, no, look, look no , you going to get into it.
He be doing that on theepisodes all the time.
You going to get into it.
You going to get into.
Look before you wherever you'reabout to go.

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
Look all right.
When you was over there, right,yes, and you like coming off of
Rico Havoc and coming off of ZySosa, like was you feeling?
Like, all right, this might bethe one that could catapult my
career at the time Hell yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:02:44):
Because, he's a big artist, hell yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
And like when they popped off, it was kind of it
was big hell.
Yeah, they popped off before Igot here, bro hell yeah label.

Speaker 4 (01:02:53):
I felt like, um, definitely, when I got with them
I understood the value that Ibought right I'm the streets,
okay, I'm the one ripping around, I'm the one with the
connections to these clubs,because I just was doing all
this.
So it's nothing to call a DJbooze to the reserves the.

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
Baltimore.
Yeah, it's not rappers, thesethings.

Speaker 4 (01:03:13):
That's what I'm saying, and that was big matter
of fact shout out to Mont fromNew Lane.
I learned.
Mont took me on tour with PnBRock and them.
When PnB Rock was at its peak Iseen little baby getting three
thousand a show from PNB Rock.
So like I watched people growand I grew alone as the time was

(01:03:34):
going.
So I learned a lot.
When we was on tour I learned alot.
I seen where people was messingup at I'm like, oh no, I'm more
hungry.
I seen a lot of stuff so Ilearned you get what I'm saying.
So I understood how to work onthe road.
I seen it.
So now we get the stack ofstars.
This is real motion.
Like we got an artist like K,this nigga, he got New York in

(01:03:57):
the headlock.

Speaker 3 (01:03:59):
Where it's hard to break at when it's hard to break
at.

Speaker 4 (01:04:01):
Like he got this joint goingcrazy.

Speaker 3 (01:04:04):
Crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:04:05):
So we going tour with ji, shout out to jay out of
prince.
We was moving around.
Um, like I said, why you feellike you wasn't a fit, it just
wasn't for me and what I, what Istand for and what I'll be on.
You get what I'm saying and, asa man in business, I run my own
show and I take pride intreating people to a certain

(01:04:27):
standard, not saying that a waythat a person could have, but
what I stand on, I stand on.
Everybody don't got to move howI move, and that's one thing my
dad taught me too.
Just because he a sucker, don'tmean that you got to be a
sucker back.
Just be who you are, no matterif this person don't return that
same way to you.
Just stay who you are, you'regoing to still be blessed.

Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
Yeah facts.

Speaker 4 (01:04:50):
So, yeah, it just wasn't a good fit for me.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
So wait, you've been pushing these artists, You've
been spending money, You've beentrying to get an artist out
there lead a hood locally.
You out there now and you'resaying it's not fit for you,
that's crazy.
No what.

Speaker 3 (01:05:10):
I was saying was Stack or Star, wasn't a fit for
me, all right, so like theactual company, all right.
That's good because, look,because, like, right at the or
right, while you in the midst ofthat, you pivoting in the midst
of that to humble.
That's what I'm saying, that'swhat I'm like.
Yes.

Speaker 4 (01:05:26):
But listen, you know how I meet humble.
I meet humble because puttingpeople in position.
Dj Shai, I took him on tourwith us.
That's my man, dj Shai.
I took him on tour with us.
That's what I'm saying, like Iyo this shit real man.
Because when I be thinkingabout what I did like security
companies, I helped dudes, I, Ihelped dude, I helped.
Like shout out to everybodythat I helped bro, but y'all

(01:05:47):
niggas better start reallyshowing some love back.
Nigga ain't buy me no lunch, apair of sneakers, something Like
God damn, I didn't help niggasreally feed their families and I
ain't just talking to DJ Shy,because that's my brother
overall, you know what I mean.
Like y'all got to start likecome on, man, I don't be like
God damn, but to go in on whatyou were saying, right Damn, I

(01:06:13):
just lost my train of thought,humble.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
Humble yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:06:16):
I play the gram a lot .
Humble writing on the shotpicture.
Yo, I want to buy pictures.
I want to buy backstage passesto the concert.
You talking about K-Jone, soI'm like I jump right on that ho
Bing.
But what you got, what's yourbudget, what you trying to do
with that?
He like, oh, all right, yeah, Igot this, give me $1,500.

(01:06:37):
He like, all right, bet he giveme $1,500.
For three all-access passes, Iget JI to throw his humble merch
on in philly.
He go crazy about that.
He called me the next show.
Another 1500.
He called me the next show.
I said, all right, I'm gonnaslow down on you, I ain't gonna
keep.

(01:06:58):
Just give me a little 750 onthis one once I got the 5000, I
said all right, humble is who hesay he is he's willing to
invest his money.
I'm like this young boydifferent and I'm already
watching him on the news.
He was on the CBS3 shit.
I'm like, yeah, this boydifferent.
I stopped working with StackerStar.

(01:07:18):
I get a call one day fromrandom number.
Yo bro, this is A from Humble.
Hey, big bro, how you feelabout working with us, what you
mean working with y'all?
How you feel about coming, likebeing on the humble team doing
some marketing, like I seen whatyou did for k, like come, you
know.
I mean like I got some spacefor you.
I said, oh my god, look at godevery time something happens.

(01:07:43):
And I closed, closed that door.
But that was God.
Oh, let me pivot.

Speaker 3 (01:07:49):
And it's crazy because you did wonderful good
work over there and that stillopened the door for that.

Speaker 4 (01:07:55):
Yes, what humble.
Humble aligned to what I wasdoing, the positivity, all what
I was doing for the neighborhood, his movement and his word and
what he preached.
It aligned to what I had goingon before.
Humble, I call a paradox.
I said yo d I'm about to takeyou on a 15 city school tour

(01:08:17):
like let's tear this joint up.
D can't really see the visionall the way.
Humble call me.
Now I call a deke, but humblecall me, yeah you good, I'm
saying right, I called Deke, asthat's my Muslim brother, and I
ain't feel no type of way.

Speaker 3 (01:08:31):
Let's get it Because.

Speaker 4 (01:08:31):
I just understood that it might have not been in
the budget at the moment Right,right but.
Humble called me.
That was the difference.
Perfect, you good what I'msaying.
So when Humble called me, I'mhis guy, so we get together and
take right off.
Boom, he listened to everythingI say.

(01:08:52):
Listen, shit really takes.
I've never seen a clothingbrand make hundred thousand
dollar days, like hundredthousand dollars.
This is this, ain't no big meatstrap shit.
This is some legal shit.
Hundred thousand dollar daysand I have to watch over his
back, bro you see what I'msaying.

Speaker 3 (01:09:08):
I had to run down on you with my son to get one of
them fucking goodies.

Speaker 4 (01:09:12):
He wanted the picture and all he couldn't believe.
I knew you Yo.
So it's like he couldn'tbelieve it, bro.

Speaker 3 (01:09:18):
That's crazy, that shit was crazy, bro.
Bro, I ain't never seen nothinglike that shit in my life bro.

Speaker 4 (01:09:31):
So shout out to humble for the opportunity and
for understanding that he wasn'tbig enough to have somebody
else on the team.
He understood that he was big,but he like, oh, big duke, this
boy, he big too we could come.
And he understood that hisaction shoot it.
You feel me.
So I, I appreciate everything,how it happened.
I appreciate the run with stackof star, because I learned what
and what to not do and what youknow I mean.

(01:09:52):
And then after thatrelationship went where it went,
you know, I mean, it's no badfeelings.
Yeah, the next week, whathappened?
Humble, call me now I'm shoot,right, you get what I'm saying.
Every time they thought I lostit or they thought I lost the
momentum, yeah, god swung mesomething that was better.
Take this, take this.
And right now, when we fastforward up to date, right now,

(01:10:16):
it's like me standing on goodbusiness, me being a good dude.
This is why I got my artistthat I got.
Shout out to Brill Brill.
I was doing bookings for BrillBrill.

Speaker 3 (01:10:31):
Jabril Evans Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:10:32):
Brill called me.
He said, oh, these young boysright here, they next up.
Yeah, I said, all right, bet,this is a year, and two years
ago he told me Miz and AJ wasnext already.
Right, he been told me thisbefore.
They had the music and all thisYo Unc D-Next up.
What I do, just being a bigbrother, being a leader when we
on tour, I'm taking them, I goty'all, everything is took.

(01:10:56):
Just being a big brother, notknowing that one day they going
to have a hit.
Giving them the experience youknow what I mean Giving them the
experience when they flip backaround.
That's what they call big bro,I'm ready.
It's God you get what I'msaying when you stand doing
business.
This is what my man said.
How do you?
They keep asking me yo, how youkeep finding all these artists

(01:11:16):
being thorough like young boys.
So sometimes in Philly youngboys get brainwashed and they
don't understand your value.
You get what I'm sayingsometimes.
That happens sometimes, and andthey don't understand your
value.
Sometimes that happens.
Sometimes, yeah, and they lookat the glitter and the delight
and they look at that and thenthey come back to me and be damn
near crying.
I'll be like it's too late.

(01:11:37):
Hard work, you didn'tunderstand the difference.
Hard work, yeah.
You let the lights and theflash and the cameras Blind you,
blind you to what was reallygoing on.

Speaker 1 (01:11:50):
the cameras blind, you blind you to what was really
going on.
Yeah, speaking on findingartists is real quick because I
know um when they come tosouthwest.
Like you, are you a big, you'rea big feast, like right you
know, I'm saying so, I wantedyou to um elaborate like did you
and bankroll gambino have arelationship?

Speaker 4 (01:12:08):
Little brother.
That's my little brother.

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
I was about to say.

Speaker 4 (01:12:11):
That's my pride, got in the way of that.
Shout out to Kenny Blake right,me and Kenny Blake is working
right now.
Right, but me and Kenny Blakewas supposed to work for so many
years, right.
He always invited me Eat, mo,when I left Stack or Star, who
called me, you, my young boy,yeah come over here, late
Poppin'.

Speaker 1 (01:12:29):
Come over here.

Speaker 4 (01:12:30):
You know what I tell him?
Kenny, I ain't going to lie,I'm drink right now.

Speaker 3 (01:12:35):
They doing their thing over there.
I don't want it.

Speaker 4 (01:12:36):
Like, I'll let y'all.
And this is a situation that'sPoppin' Like Late Poppin' he
offered me a position the show,like I will.
I'm like yo, I'm not even inthat space right now like I'm
gonna.
Just, I mean I'm gonna take offa little bit and I'm telling
him, like, bro, music the waythat I want to live my life
Islamically.
Maybe music is not the way forme.

(01:12:56):
That's why things are not goinghow it's going.
He's like nah, dude, youtripping, nigga, you built for
this shit.
Like me and Kenny Blake talk.
We used to talk before we doingbusiness.
We used to talk once a week.
No, dude, you tripping, youbuilt for this.
Dude.
Like, dang with you, for real,dude, these bulls can't really
like work, like when you getyour opportunity, duke, like he

(01:13:17):
just used to.
He beat that in me, dude, theyI always knew they can't with me
, but he beat it in me like no,you built for this.
Don't, dude, don't don't.
Ah, yeah.
So he tried to give meopportunities at the
opportunities and I'm like nah,I'm cool, you get what I'm
saying, and then the opportunitypresents itself.

(01:13:37):
You know, I mean, whereasthough it makes sense, it makes
sense, these are our artists,yeah, but to speak on the
bankroll gambino, that was mylittle brother, since he was a
kid, before he rap any of thatright and bankroll.
If y'all look at his video, hegot my the youngest in charge
chain on that's, you know.
I mean he was rapping even whenhe so he called me one day he

(01:13:58):
said dude, I want yeah, I'myoungest in charge, but I want
you to link up with kenny blake.
I was so burnt out with oldniggas.
Yeah, I hate old niggas, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:14:11):
And I said you know what I told him?
I told him, I said yo alwaysblocking.

Speaker 4 (01:14:15):
I ain't fucking with old heads.
I told him nigga, I gotta dothis on like my guy, five dead.
Nigga, I gotta score a bucketlike I get with Kenny Blake.
I'm not fucking with old heads,like I don't.
I just they drained like I toldhim that and I said bankroll,

(01:14:37):
don't you, my little brother,before rap, just come to me when
you make that decision.
Even if you choose to go withkenny blake, just be a man about
it.
Let me know what you choose todo and don't let me see it on no
instagram.
And he called me like two weekslater, was like yo, big bro,
like I want you to always be apart of this, but kenny blake is
a better position for me rightnow.

(01:14:59):
And I said okay, cool, allright.
And he went with kenny blake.
You get what I'm saying, butit's just so funny how it's like
a full circle.
I've been-.

Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
So what made you say you wasn't dealing with old
niggas?
Was it you being stubborn?

Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
Was it like something ?

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
you was trying to prove to like maybe, the older
guys that you came up under.

Speaker 4 (01:15:22):
I had a chip on my shoulder right and it's because
this what I like the older guysI'm 30.
Somebody that's 50.
Even like a guy like CharlieMack.
Right, I respect Charlie Mack,but you would hear Charlie Mack
say things like sometimes, likea guy like me might have, it

(01:15:44):
might have took me five years orthree years.
Or look at young boys likeShake that they made a song and
in three months you know, what Imean.
But they look at it like, oh,they ain't have to work like us.
Yo, it's a new era, it's a newtime.
Y'all got to get with the newtime of what's going on.

(01:16:05):
You know, I told my partner,kenny Blake.
I said, kenny, I brought you onin this partnership because I
respect you and I should notmake no mistakes that you made.
You took the ass whooping forus.
What you and Lay done that wasfor everybody else to not have

(01:16:27):
to go through that.
So you took them ass whoopings.

Speaker 2 (01:16:30):
There's no reason why I got to go take them, not to
say you, but you have to take anass whooping to at least know
reason why I gotta go take them.
You have not to say you, butyou have to take an ass whooping
to at least know the game alittle.

Speaker 4 (01:16:38):
Yes, you know, but why is me and you homies, us
three homies, and we all takethe?

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
ass levels.
We already passed this.
How do you?

Speaker 4 (01:16:48):
not give me the game right to make sure that I don't
do the same thing?

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
It should be easier now.

Speaker 4 (01:16:54):
It should be easier.
Yep, and that's what Iexplained to him.
I said, bro, I shouldn't takeno losses.
You know why?
Because that's what you arehere for.
Yeah, you've been through thelittle ups and downs in the
industry.
Yeah, whereas though you mighthave felt like that was a bad
deal, but now you understandwhat's a good deal.
You understand, but now youunderstand what's a good deal

(01:17:17):
you understand these things likeas time go on, your resources
grow too fast.
Yes, and then, your mind.
Yeah, you start seeing stuff,the industry.
Yo, bro, you start learning.
In the last 60 days I learnedso much just by being hands-on
on it.
It's a crazy, wicked game.
Yes, it's wicked, and if youemotional, it ain't built for
you, because this one we talkabout cash, the street, the

(01:17:41):
gangsters.
You got dudes that ain't evencut like that.
But they'll try you, they'llplay with you like they street,
I'm telling you, and you gottabe physically, emotionally built
for that to understand.
Like and I'm going to but thebiggest thing is paperwork and
understanding what you signedand people be mad out here about

(01:18:01):
the deals that they signed.
What you mad about the dealthat you signed.
In Philadelphia and this issomething that I want to tap
into you have the industry andthen you have Philadelphia,
right.
And when I say the industry is,if a label gets you on a messed
up deal, it's business, that'sthe label, it's business.

(01:18:23):
But when you got these guys outhere that these young brothers
look up to, it's personal.
You shouldn't.
None of these young boys Shouldbe looking in they deals or
finding out that they got fuckedover by dudes that they were
looking up to and me and MontBrown had a conversation about
that.
I said, bro, understand, if you18 and I'm big dog and you look

(01:18:50):
at me like big dog, you gonnasign whatever I tell you to sign
because you looking at me likethis nigga got my best interest,
I'm good.
Yeah, I got him with me.
Yeah, I'm good.
So when these young boys getfelled by these people that they
look up to, you pay if you lookat it you get what I'm saying.

(01:19:10):
It's like yo, you failed them orthey think that you failed them
because you didn't explainbusiness.
These are the things that I'mdoing right now.
If you call my artist, they gota lawyer.
If you call my artist, theyhave a financial advisor.
If you call my, these are thethings working on the credit you
got to show them.
I'm not one of them dudes thatlike, yeah, we about to get

(01:19:30):
money and I'm not going to showyou something, because if I
don't show you, you ain't goingto never know.
So now I'm going to show you.
I'm going to show you this, I'mgoing to show you this.
I'm going to show you thedifferent things to help you
execute and to help you not goback down that way.
And Philadelphia, it ain't toomany good labels.

(01:19:51):
It ain't too many good labels.
Y'all felonies the shit out ofthese young boys, and I
understand what they talkingabout.

Speaker 2 (01:20:00):
How many good labels do we have?
They don't have the name, buthow many do we?

Speaker 4 (01:20:04):
have.
I don't think I can count on myhands how many good labels that
we got in Philly.

Speaker 2 (01:20:10):
So there we have it, this, the Real of the Most
podcast.
Make sure you share, like,subscribe, comment If you don't.
You a motherfucking hater.
That was 32.

Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
Wow, because it's free, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:20:20):
So look, look, look, do all that right, Do all the
artists.
Do everything that you beengoing through, everything that
you been enduring through life,through the streets, through the
industry.
You wind up?
No, not, you wind up.
You always do philanthropy work, community service work,

(01:20:42):
community work.
It's like you, just for thepeople, and we just had the
election come up Before you gothere, though, I wanted to say
something real quick.

Speaker 2 (01:20:54):
What.
Before you go there, though, Iwanted to say something real
quick.
What?
Because you about to go fromhood to political right With the
music.
Where do you see yourself inthe next few years with the

(01:21:14):
artists, you working with you?

Speaker 3 (01:21:15):
speeding, though, that's not, I got to go from
right there.
Then we come back to Old AssMiz, because that's how that go
you said it now.

Speaker 1 (01:21:26):
You said it now.
You might as well ask him nowGo ahead, go ahead.
Yo buddy.

Speaker 4 (01:21:32):
Come on what's the question?

Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
I was just saying where you see yourself with the
music, with all the stuff youwas just saying.
You learn, you won't make thesemistakes no more like how you
see yourself sharpening whereyou see yourself being that you
know what, and I get y'all bothquestions.

Speaker 4 (01:21:49):
I think I'm gonna answer his first and then that's
a good one.
So just to explain, like thepolitics, I had to pivot.
When I say in 2020, it was whenI, when I, when I was like
hustling, we used to throw likelittle book bag drives on the
corner of the block to get thelaw off of us.
But we was giving back.

(01:22:09):
But then my old head, the citycommissioner, shout out, omar
sabir.
He was my teacher.
I went to Germantown Mass JetSchool, I went to Iowa Oxen.
He was my teacher in school andhe used to tell me he said yo,
get your nonprofit, your 501c3,and you can really help your
neighborhood.
Two years ago, I get it.

(01:22:32):
Now the pandemic come.
This is my everyday go hard Fmusic.
Right here.
I'm focused on the neighborhood.
For the last four or five yearsit's just been consistent
neighborhood, consistent,empowering people, consistency,
consistency.

(01:22:52):
That consistency led me to thecommercial, the election.
You know what I mean, with thevice president being on a
commercial and getting severalopportunities and building
several relationships.
And a lot of people, especiallymy Instagram followers, a lot

(01:23:17):
of people is used to the glam orthe glitter, so a lot of my
followers, that's what theylooking for.
Right, they even looking forthe glam or the glitter, or they
like yo, duke, when you goingto take it to that next level.
So they didn't unfollow me, butthey sitting and they ghost
watching because it's like, okay, what's next?
What's next?

(01:23:37):
We know what you, you got toget over to show us like yeah,
so you know that's where it's atnow.
That consistency work led me to.
You know these opportunities,and these opportunities are very

(01:23:58):
, very needed.
The things that I'm doing.
In the hood, I just did a jobfair where we just employed 250
people, 59th and Woodland 59thand Elmwood.

Speaker 3 (01:24:08):
Elmwood.

Speaker 4 (01:24:09):
Like who doing this?
And somebody called me and saidyo, how much they pay you to do
that.
I said that's why I'm blessed,because I ain't get paid to do
that right and that's what I'vebeen working on that for a year.
It took me a year to put thattogether and then on the day
it's seven hours out of my day.
I ain't make no money, butthat's what I help the people

(01:24:30):
make some money.
This is for the people right sowhen you say you really for the
people, this is that's.
I'm really for the people.
That's the word.
Everything is not.
I don't get paid.
I'm just people thinkingbecause I'm like these they seen
what happened in the last 90days I don't get no grants, I
ain't got no million dollars ingrants and all that it's still
my money, y'all you know.

(01:24:52):
I mean, I'm just getting help.
Now the help is actuallystarting the process, but people
look at you like, oh dang, theyget you this, they get you that
.
No, yeah, this is this shows me.
This would make them respect memore, because it's my heart.
My heart earned money that I'mspending into this.
It's not a return on that.
The the only return is ablessing from God.

Speaker 3 (01:25:13):
Right, right.

Speaker 4 (01:25:15):
And to answer your question, my guy, where do I see
myself at?
I'm really a Muslim at heartand I'm not one of them that
just preach Islam.
I'm not perfect, but as I'mgetting older by 35, I got to
live a straight path and I'm notsaying I'm going to be perfect,

(01:25:38):
but certain stuff like themusic haram, that ain't going to
be in my life forever.
It's other ways, what I'm doingfor the community that is halal
.
There's nothing wrong with that, the things that I'm doing.
There's nothing wrong with that, the things that I'm doing.
So the way that I'm pivoted, itis to die with Allah being happy

(01:26:00):
with me from all the past yearsof sinning and sinning and
doing everything that I wouldhave if I was doing.
Yeah, I can't live my life likethat forever.
Right, you know what I mean?
I got a real Muslim family Likemy mom prayed five times a day.
My grandmom they in class.
It's like yo.
Okay, dude, we respect whatyou're doing, but I'm not going

(01:26:21):
to be that 40-year-old boythrowing parties.
No disrespect to y'all, my lifeain't set up for that.
I'm just being honest.
My life ain't.
And I ask these dudes why y'all50 and don't own the club yet?
This is why our people's isfalling, why you don't own that
building, why don't you?
What's going on?
Y'all running bags up.

(01:26:41):
What are we?
Don't even let me get into thatman.
We're going to say that for parttwo, when I come, shake the
motherfucking city up and I comeback, and I come back with some
results.
You know what I mean, becausenow it's the process.
The results is starting to show, the results are in.
Now it's time for me to go kickass and I'll be back to y'all
before the.

(01:27:01):
You know what I mean summertime, at the Ramadan, and we gonna
talk like dang dude, you wasjust here 90 days ago.
Y'all got the gold, y'all gotthe this.
Y'all got that because withthese artists that I got right
now, you could put your favoriterapper in front of them.
They not seeing them, theirpersonality, who they are.
They ain't running aroundtalking.

(01:27:23):
They got a hit song without acuss word.
They got a hit song withouttalking about a gun.
They got a hit song withouttalking about ops.
All fun.
We can't get songs like this inthe city of Philadelphia.

Speaker 3 (01:27:36):
How it feel like conquering that space, like
being able to like actually likebe through bit, be able to go
through what you've been throughand everything that you went
through so far as the streets,the game, the industry, and now
I mean now you get these greatyoung boys a blessing from God
and they got a great hit, andit's like really putting some

(01:27:58):
numbers on the board with thisone.
Like how does it feel for you,like to come back and really
smash them with this?
How does it feel I ain't goingto lie.

Speaker 4 (01:28:05):
I had a chip on my shoulder.
I felt like I'm out for blood.
They owe me because they ain'treally respecting it, and when
they ain't respecting it yougotta take it.
You get what I'm saying?
So I got a chip on my shoulderbecause I know that they can't
fuck with me in the city ofphiladelphia.
My heart is more pure than alot of these dudes, so at the

(01:28:28):
end sometimes it might take alittle longer.
Look it just like I'm just nowmaking a bucket after nine years
.
But my bucket is gonna bebetter than everybody that score
buckets.
Because when you look right now, what's going on in philly,
y'all, how many ended.
How many labels do we gotactive right now in philly.

(01:28:49):
Throw some names out.
That's active right now.
Y'allall.
That's fucking the town overTouring them, they doing they
thing.

Speaker 2 (01:29:01):
Name another label.
D2a, d2a.
We talking about tours.

Speaker 4 (01:29:07):
He said yes, name somebody that you like yo.
They got them young boyssmashing my young boys.
We just did five homecomings,all paid jobs.

Speaker 3 (01:29:17):
They was crazy too.

Speaker 2 (01:29:19):
They ain't with Stagger Stars.

Speaker 3 (01:29:22):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:29:22):
So I can't even say your name.

Speaker 4 (01:29:24):
No, you can say them if you feel like they doing
their thing.

Speaker 2 (01:29:27):
I'm asking y'all they still doing their thing though,
right you asking us?
I'm asking y'all Not right now.

Speaker 4 (01:29:35):
I'm asking y'all, I'm asking y'all, I'm asking y'all
you gotta think about it who thefuck is putting on right now?
Kenny Blake and CEO Big.

Speaker 2 (01:29:43):
Duke.
So wait, wait, wait, wait,bando baby right.

Speaker 4 (01:29:48):
Shout out to Garci and Rod Are they doing them?
Who putting on?
Who really like?
Who scoring shots?
We talking about shots nowCause I'm on the motherfucking
court, so now who's scoringshots?
We talking about shots nowbecause I'm on the motherfucking
court, so now we on the court.
We talking about shots.
Who putting up real shots andscoring buckets?

Speaker 3 (01:30:03):
nobody putting up no numbers talk to me.

Speaker 2 (01:30:04):
Oh man, y'all not gonna let him talk like talk to
me, I'm.

Speaker 4 (01:30:08):
I'm gonna start popping that shit like I used to
pop to the niggas in the club.
We could pop 100 bottlestonight.
Who got?
Who got they money?
Who came to perform?
Because I'm in thismotherfucking?

Speaker 1 (01:30:17):
game and I got a chip on my shoulder.

Speaker 4 (01:30:21):
I got a chip on my shoulder.
I ain't talking about Ryder,because Ryder's a spitter.
We ain't talking about thespitter.
We talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:30:29):
I don't know the artist, I'm just naming labels.

Speaker 1 (01:30:32):
That's what.

Speaker 2 (01:30:32):
I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:30:33):
That's what I'm saying.
That's basically what I'msaying.
I got love for a lot of dudesin the city, but when we
speakin' facts, we speakin'facts, I'm on everybody's ass,
even if you my homie.
This shit is a competitivesport and I'm coming for it
Because I ain't got that muchtime.
I don't got that much time inthe music industry.

Speaker 1 (01:30:52):
I'm not about to be here for 10 years.

Speaker 4 (01:30:53):
I'm about to come make a mark in five three to
five years.
Yes, they not really doing butone thing I'm not going to leave
here without saying is Irespect.
Look, let me say this, though,because I'm just now getting on
the court Niggas been on thecourt, right.
I respect everybody that scorebuckets, if you, because it's

(01:31:14):
hard and now that I'm in theindustry I understand it's hard
to close a deal.
Yes, it is.
You know how much going backand forth to it's hard.
So for dudes that even donethat, even if you done bad
business, just that part rightthere, I gotta give some type of
respect.
But I don't respect felonies.

(01:31:34):
Young boys, man, I'm big onthat.
When this shit is all said anddone, y'all gonna see every
artist that I deal with be oncamera saying yo, them boys
stood on business.
You about to see my artistmoving their moms from the, from
the trenches.
This is, this is what we needed.
This is what we call like whenI, when I say who put it on?

(01:31:55):
That's what.

Speaker 2 (01:32:00):
I mean Friday or money white.
They done it.
They are next level.

Speaker 1 (01:32:07):
You know I'm saying like I'll ride around and listen
to Friday.
I know all Friday songs.

Speaker 4 (01:32:09):
I'm a fan of Friday Speaking on the Philly level.
Who is helping these young boyschange their situation?
Why are these young boysgetting a deal and then get
locked up for guns and what's?

Speaker 1 (01:32:24):
going on.
Who in?

Speaker 4 (01:32:24):
Philly.

Speaker 2 (01:32:25):
And the last.

Speaker 4 (01:32:25):
That's just in general.
A lot of people, you know whatI mean, a lot of these young
boys.
Y'all just had Mook up here,mook, so to tell y'all, he got
into a high speed chase before.

Speaker 2 (01:32:36):
Like.
These are the things thathappen.
I've seen these young boys.
I ain't gonna lie yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:32:38):
They go through things.
So it's like, yes, they do, yougo through things.
But it's like how can we, asleaders, protect With this
industry?
Shit, it's next level.
You got to be there like thiswith these artists.

Speaker 2 (01:32:57):
You got to show them.
Kenny Blake got little buckstoo he had little bucks, I
remember him having little bucks.

Speaker 4 (01:33:02):
He got little bucks in him, a deal.
Yeah, he had little bucks inhim Right right Now.
He just got late.
And then now we got SturdyYoung and then we got Old Ass
Miz, and then we signed anotheryoung buck.
We just signed.
I'm striking, I'm coming out.
I'm sorry y'all, I'm not evensorry.
Y'all might like this niggatalking heavy.
I am Cause I'm on these niggasass.
I'm coming out.

(01:33:24):
This bitch.
I got a chopper.
This shit is gonna go when thisshit Get to swinging.
I just signed Another artistyesterday While closing another
deal.
So, y'all about this.
It's going down.
I'm waving this chopper.
This bitch going Get out my wayBecause every artist that I'm
dropping we bombing shit.

Speaker 3 (01:33:47):
So it's safe to say that CEO Duke is in his fucking
bag and you are a vessel for thekids to further their careers,
if they got the right type oftalent.

Speaker 4 (01:33:55):
Yes, but I'm mad because I cussed a lot on this
and the way that I'm going,you're cool.

Speaker 3 (01:33:59):
We good, we going to make sure, we going to make you
right.

Speaker 1 (01:34:01):
We going to make sure you're right?

Speaker 4 (01:34:03):
Yes, I am.
The young boys know that theycan come to me.
I can show you all my DM rightnow.

Speaker 2 (01:34:16):
Young boys, the popping young boys that y'all
know, trying to get up with mebecause they understand I'm back
.
That's the hype part of it.
But let's say like, do you feellike right now you're an
accomplished deal closer browhen it comes to these artists?

Speaker 4 (01:34:26):
Yes, what I just closed, I'm accomplished.
We might have one of the bestdeals in Philadelphia.
I don't get on this shit andjust be speaking.
I'm talking this shit.
The world going to see this.
Yes, you ain't seen my video.
I said I'm in a fucking game.
I'm in a game.
This shit is game time.

(01:34:47):
I ain't capping.
I waited my turn.
I could talk like this becausey'all all can say I waited my
turn.

Speaker 3 (01:34:56):
It took me nine years to make a bucket.

Speaker 4 (01:34:58):
It's deserved.

Speaker 3 (01:34:59):
And y'all put the point, and y'all really putting
the points up, no, when y'allsee this bucket, this a real
bucket.

Speaker 2 (01:35:08):
This a real bucket.

Speaker 4 (01:35:09):
We're going to talk after the pod go off, but no man
, I appreciate y'all for havingme.
We ain't nowhere near donethough.
We got you for another five,but no man, I appreciate y'all
For having me.
I know Once I win.
We ain't never done though.

Speaker 2 (01:35:16):
We got.
We got you for another Five,ten minutes.
Okay, let's go ahead and Getthe games rolling.
White boy, let's Before we.

Speaker 1 (01:35:25):
Before we do that man .
I just wanna Tell you like weappreciate you.
To the max you already know youa part of Really the most
family.
Now, I wasn't even talking thisepisode because I really wanted
to hear everything you weresaying.

Speaker 3 (01:35:40):
And I wanted to run it down how I wanted to run it
down?
Because, like you said, peopledon't be knowing.

Speaker 1 (01:35:46):
Yeah so.

Speaker 3 (01:35:47):
I just wanted them to know.

Speaker 1 (01:35:49):
Yeah, like I wanted them to know as well and also
like once you spoke on givingpeople the flowers and you
basically was talking a lot ofthings that people would not say
, Right, you feel me and forthat reason, like that's why I
just let you talk and was wassoaking you know information and

(01:36:11):
knowledge up so the audiencecan hear that and be like damn,
like he one person who know thisand you can count on him for
that.
You know what I'm saying so whenthey come to southwest, though,
big duke, definitely like aface.
You feel what I'm saying and Iwanted to A.

Speaker 4 (01:36:30):
Cash.
I appreciate that, but it's not.
Big Duke is I am, I am, I am, Iam, I am Me, I am, I am
Southwest.
You know what I mean and that'sjust real.
Whoever feels some type of way,they can feel how they feel I'm

(01:36:52):
more than a nigga.
I'm just saying you know, a lotof people feel like they are
Read Dollars.
No see, I love read dollars.
You know why?
I can show you our DMs, right?

Speaker 1 (01:37:03):
now Read.

Speaker 4 (01:37:05):
Embracing me.
This is what I'm saying.
This is the type of old dudesthat I love Read, duke, I
remember you know a nigga whenyou was in a barbershop,
did-da-da-da-da.
You know what I mean you doingyour thing.
Yeah, just embrace a youngnigga, right.
That, you see, is doingsomething positive.

Speaker 2 (01:37:19):
Don't try to compete.

Speaker 4 (01:37:20):
What are we?

Speaker 2 (01:37:20):
competing for what are we doing?
Mm-hmm, what are we doing?

Speaker 4 (01:37:24):
But I know y'all said I got another five to 10
minutes, another few.
We're going to let y'all go.
You can rock Go ahead nobecause I was going to tell
y'all, I want to give someadvice to artists when it comes
to deals.
One thing is a book called Allyou Need to Know About the Music

(01:37:44):
Business.
Right, I know that book.
You get that book for $13.
It have every marketing.
It will break down.
It's 2024, so you can get theupdated region.
It explained to you the splits.

Speaker 2 (01:38:01):
It explained to you everything you need to know it
cut down the music business book101 into a short book okay, I
never.

Speaker 4 (01:38:10):
I read that.
That's exactly what it does.
It's a black music businessbook called 101.
Okay, but this book, if you wantto just go read on publishing,
you can just go read onpublishing.
Y'all have to educateyourselves.
Sure, I am going to blame halfof these dudes in the city for
failing y'all, but y'all have tostart taking the initiative to

(01:38:31):
say, okay, I trust him.
Start taking the initiative tosay, okay, I trust him.
But let me take my own uhconsideration and my own uh
efforts to go find a lawyer, togo find a big bro that you may
think, oh, read over this, stopjust signing this stuff.
And stop signing this stuff,right and with these new york

(01:38:54):
labels, right.
But then y'all come to the hoodand be mad at the nigga that
done the same thing that a labelwould have done.
But I understand why y'all soupset, because this is city
leaders that y'all looked up to.
Y'all could do it today rightthere you good.
I'm saying so like I wantartists to like start educating
themselves more, because thismusic stuff is not all about

(01:39:16):
music.

Speaker 3 (01:39:18):
It's business.

Speaker 4 (01:39:18):
It's a business and if you understand the business
you could get further.
And I don't understand thebusiness all the way.

Speaker 2 (01:39:26):
But that's key right there, though.

Speaker 4 (01:39:27):
So you gotta make sure you, if you're doing
business with anybody, just makesure you see them do some type
of business before you get intobusiness with them or even just
know what you're doing, because,like the business that we done,
the bucket that we just made,we don't know them, boys, but
when that, when that, when thatpaperwork right and we got my
lawyer, like, yeah, he know howto do business yeah that's what

(01:39:51):
you need.
Y'all cannot be in thesemeetings doing the business
yourself.
That's another thing.
Stop letting your old headthink he can do the deal for you
.
This game is crazy, y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:40:04):
If y'all want to be successful, you got to have the
right entities in your corner toexecute the right things,
because it looks tacky whenyou're trying to bring your old
head in there to try to justsign some paperwork or do some
type of business.

Speaker 4 (01:40:17):
You're only successful as your team.
Your team like even we explainthis to my artists right now
Y'all got the hottest song.
How many people had the hottestsong?
But right back in the hood theydidn't have the proper guidance
, they didn't listen.
There's a lot of things you gotto have the team to say listen,

(01:40:39):
this is the direction.
All I need you to do is followthis game plan.
A lot of these young boys Icannot blame them, being though
I'm 30, I am the glue betweenthe young generation and the old
generation, and I understandthat the youngest.
It's not that they don't listen, it's not that they don't.
First of all, they can'tcomprehend, and then the second,

(01:41:01):
they don't got the direction.
People just like, oh, do thisand do that.
No, bro, you got to really saylisten, this is how we about to
do it, this is how you do it.
That's what it is is.
I just had a job, fair, in themiddle of the trenches.
You know why?
Because I know people don'tknow how to read.
People ain't, you ain't gonna.
Just because you don't know howto read, don't mean that you're

(01:41:23):
not a good worker.

Speaker 1 (01:41:24):
Yeah, because the job don't even you don't even gotta
read nothing, you get what?

Speaker 4 (01:41:28):
I'm saying but you have to read to get the job.
So a lot of people getdiscouraged because they can't
read.
You'll be surprised how manypeople can't read or fill out an
application.
So this is why I bought stufflike that to the hood, because I
understand that we lack atthese things and we need more
resources like that.

Speaker 1 (01:41:46):

Speaker 4 (01:41:47):
So if you bring employers to the hood, to the
trenches, they see who theydealing with right here, you get
what I'm saying.
You get the proper help thatyou need.
We gotta guide our people waybetter.
We gotta be better leaders forsure.
I remember my man told me, duke, you was a bad leader, nigga.
I was 21 and y'all was fucking30 like.

(01:42:10):
But now, when we speak to up todate, I'm way more than a
better leader than I was at 20.
You know people expectedsomething that I wasn't right.
You know I mean because of themoney.
Yeah, don't let money justifyhow you respect somebody.
I tell this don't call thisdude, you're over here because

(01:42:31):
he got money or a certainvehicle don't think, because
he's thorough, because he gotmoney
and that right there, that's thebiggest problem that we be
having too.
People respect only money.
I don't.
I respect somebody that lost it, because the person that lost
it, they could tell you likethey had it.
They built it up and then theylost it.

(01:42:52):
That's way more than a personwho sustained it easy, even
though it's a little harder tosustain it.
But I value that person thatlost it, the advice that they
have.
I don't look at people like man, you was a could have should
have, like no, I ain't.
That's the people that I gotalk to right right so to learn

(01:43:13):
how not to lose it.
To learn how not to lose it.
Man, like I could go on thetalk all day, y'all.
Once I get some goodconversation and then once I get
to talking, it's just likememories popping back in my head
.
Like damn that.
Like I was talking to youMarketing.
I closed a $100,000 deal forHumble with the school district.
You done that?

(01:43:33):
What clothing brand out ofPhiladelphia?
You see, go get 100,000 from aschool, one school for uniforms
to help them make the kids cometo.

Speaker 3 (01:43:46):
That's big Duke work.
That was ill too.

Speaker 4 (01:43:47):
That's big dude.

Speaker 3 (01:43:48):
I remember that deal, just to get them to come to
speak just to get them to reachthey go to make the kids come to
school yeah.
I'm gonna.

Speaker 4 (01:43:54):
This brand has so much power that we were able to
close a $100,000 deal with aPhiladelphia school.
What brand do you know in thecity running around BET weekend
selling merch and awards?
What brand do you know pullingup at the EYL in Atlanta with

(01:44:15):
the top high school players inthe country, all around the
world and meeting LeBron James,having access your team?
You sharp if your team sharpbecause you need your team.
How do we get to these places?
Because the resources, becauseof what I know.
That's my job, that's what I'mgoing to do.
You need a team.

(01:44:36):
That's my job, that's what I'mgonna do.

Speaker 3 (01:44:36):
You need a team that's you do, that's you do All
the time.

Speaker 4 (01:44:40):
Who was young K tour manager Me?
Mm-hmm, you good, I'm saying.
Who was his booking agent Me.

Speaker 3 (01:44:50):
Play them roles.
We could keep going All right.
So, look, we played, we playedall right on, rather than most
we played, we played.
We played a couple games onhere at the end.
Now, man, it ain't nothing toocrazy, you don't gotta do too
much thinking as you just pickone of the other.
It's called fast track, right,and because we from philly I
like to always start off withthis one state property or major

(01:45:12):
figures.

Speaker 4 (01:45:13):
State prop chain gang .

Speaker 3 (01:45:16):
Okay, all right, all right.

Speaker 4 (01:45:19):
Shout out Speedo though, Uncle Speed.

Speaker 3 (01:45:23):
Reed Dollaz or Joey Jag Whoa.

Speaker 4 (01:45:28):
I'm a Southwest boy, big Reed.
Okay, dang, that was that wasthat was that was Styles P or
DMX?
Dmx.

Speaker 3 (01:45:44):
Okay, nam Brigade or Philly Moves Wanted.

Speaker 4 (01:45:50):
Philly Moves Wanted because I ain't know that other
group.

Speaker 3 (01:45:52):
You ain't know, nam.
They was from Southwest too.

Speaker 2 (01:45:56):
I knew like what's's that 57 chester, 58 uh what
buggy and him, no, that was umace capone?

Speaker 1 (01:46:08):
oh no, no no, nam was q don meek mill ram no, I don't
know none of them, but me Earlyin the game.

Speaker 4 (01:46:18):
But I know the old head, I got the game on smash
girl.

Speaker 3 (01:46:21):
You know I'm 30.

Speaker 4 (01:46:23):
And I wasn't off the step all like early, early, I
was off the step Unless he intomusic, music, music.

Speaker 2 (01:46:29):
You don't know them niggas, what's his name?

Speaker 4 (01:46:32):
that just came home.
That was with Pusha T, my oldhead, roscoe Pete.

Speaker 1 (01:46:36):
Roscoe Pete.

Speaker 4 (01:46:37):
Now that's a real Southwest legend that I know.
He knew me from a kid, yeah heon, yeah he on.

Speaker 1 (01:46:44):
Y'all got to get Roscoe up here because Roscoe's
saucing.

Speaker 4 (01:46:46):
He out here, I ain't going to lie, that's one rapper
that I seen come home and I gotto give him his credit because
he out here doing this thing, heon flights, he traveling, he,
you know, I mean he, he don'tlook lost boy, really boy, like
I don't know, like I seen him ontv right, but I look out my

(01:47:06):
backyard.
One day, and I seen him gettingbusy one day like in another
fashion, right?

Speaker 3 (01:47:13):
I used to see him.
You know what I'm saying, right?

Speaker 2 (01:47:16):
And I'm like yo.
That's the boy, that's right.

Speaker 3 (01:47:19):
Right, yeah, maybe you say all that ice cream.
Yeah, yeah, he was like.

Speaker 4 (01:47:24):
I was a young boy, man coming up, man Southwest
inspired me.
The people before me inspiredme.
Man Like the hustlers you gotthe LA's, the Hoagies, the Hot
Boys, the Rick Lowe's, the 58thStreet.
The man like man Southwest justhad so much to look up to.

Speaker 3 (01:47:48):
Who I last said.
I said, alright, so we're goingto go right here.
We're going to go the Lox orDiplomats.

Speaker 4 (01:47:57):
Diplomats.
That was more like my speed.

Speaker 2 (01:47:58):
Let me get on one man .
Go ahead, since you want to gothere, you ready.
Let's get it Beans or Jadakiss.
Beans All right Gilly orFreeway, two different niggas

(01:48:19):
Freeway you gotta get free.

Speaker 4 (01:48:24):
Like Gilly, my favorite comedian now.
Like he more funny, like I loveGilly, just a dummy.

Speaker 3 (01:48:31):
Like Miss J or Nina Ross.

Speaker 4 (01:48:38):
Hey yo y'all niggas know I'm 30.
Y'all talking about some Miss J, I know them though.

Speaker 3 (01:48:44):
Shout out to Miss J and Nina.

Speaker 2 (01:48:45):
I know them.
I know them, I know them, we'regoing to go here All right, I
got them.

Speaker 3 (01:48:52):
I got them too, though I ain't going to lie,
damn no, right, I got him.
I got him too, though I ain'tgoing to lie, Damn no, but I'm
going to be honest.
Rico Hagevic, nina Ross wasthat yes?
And Miss.

Speaker 4 (01:49:01):
Jade, was that they?

Speaker 3 (01:49:02):
both was that.

Speaker 4 (01:49:03):
When I'm looking at it, I feel like Nina Ross
probably was more that than Icould remember as a kid.

Speaker 3 (01:49:13):
I don't know she was, that it was Miss J Rico Havoc
or Zy Sosa.

Speaker 4 (01:49:18):
Damn.

Speaker 3 (01:49:18):
That was a crazy one.

Speaker 4 (01:49:20):
I'm going to be honest, though, right Whoa, they
both some talented people whenyou talk about music.

Speaker 3 (01:49:26):
Zy Sosa.

Speaker 4 (01:49:27):
They can't fuck with Zy Sosa still to this day.
And Rico is a good songwriter,but Zy Sosa is a star.

Speaker 3 (01:49:35):
They going to cook you in the comments.
I don't care.
I don't care.

Speaker 4 (01:49:39):
Zy Sosa makes songs, rico makes songs too, but you
talking about the youth?

Speaker 3 (01:49:45):
Shake that or Bamba.

Speaker 4 (01:49:51):
Shake that.
I'm gonna say shake that, mizgonna put you in the headlock.

Speaker 2 (01:49:55):
That's the thing.

Speaker 4 (01:49:55):
Wait till going to say shake that I'm going to put
you in the headlock.

Speaker 2 (01:49:58):
Wait till we walk in the studio I'm going to put you
right in the headlock.

Speaker 4 (01:50:02):
I'm going to say shake that, because shake that
opened the doors.
Bumba, with the team wepunching that shit going to slap
way harder, we're going to domore damage.
We're going to it a betterdollar amount.

Speaker 2 (01:50:17):
We go.

Speaker 3 (01:50:18):
We go yeah, I'm mr Casamigo with the bumble.

Speaker 4 (01:50:31):
Ross daughter just commented on the.
John Rick Ross put it up on hisgram TikTok.
They said I'm addicted to thissong.
Like his daughter said, I'mmaking my dad hop on the remix.
Shout out Jen Carter, New York,New York, going crazy right now
for that bumba.
New York is bigger than Phillyright now.

Speaker 3 (01:50:50):
No, I'm talking about as far as art.

Speaker 4 (01:50:53):
And that joint viral here in Philly but it's viruler
in New York.

Speaker 3 (01:51:00):
That's where you wanted to go viral at All, right
.

Speaker 2 (01:51:04):
You got one for him Cash.

Speaker 1 (01:51:07):
What fast track.

Speaker 2 (01:51:08):
No, yeah, yeah, yeah, go on fast track.

Speaker 1 (01:51:13):
Let me see.
Let me see All right, let's dofuture Drake Future.

Speaker 3 (01:51:23):
Key on a mom brown.
Kaya, you say on a mom brown.

Speaker 4 (01:51:28):
My brand, my brand is a fucking legend.

Speaker 3 (01:51:31):
Damn.
I like, I like, like, yeah, Ifuck with my thing, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:51:35):
I fuck with Kion too, but yeah, Mont Brown.

Speaker 3 (01:51:37):
Mont Brown yeah that's like a.

Speaker 4 (01:51:39):
You know what I mean, I get it.
I don't even mean to just that.
Shit probably sounds a littlecrazy, but Because Kion was part
of my success, right, you knowwhat I mean.
He part of my story, right.
But Mont Brown, yeah, theyolder, yeah, my brother older
than us too, so he was off thesteps.
So that's not that's what Imean.
When I say old nigga, youngnigga, you can't.

Speaker 1 (01:51:59):
It's like I was your parent, Wartenberg or Dallas
Merritt Uh uh.
Martin Dallas, martin my bad.

Speaker 4 (01:52:06):
Wartenberg.
Yeah, wartenberg, wartenberg,orlando because he touched the
hood.
I got his number on my phone.
He follow me still from he beensigning all Puerto Ricans,
though, since he been over therehe been signing all Spanish.

Speaker 3 (01:52:21):
What did you say?

Speaker 4 (01:52:22):
I said Wartenberg because he still feet on land.
I knew him.
I met him five years ago.
He never unfollowed me.
You know how these dudes begoing back through.
He still follow me.
He still come on the page.
You know, I mean, he's thereand stuff like that.
It's like that's a big timeball, you know I mean.

(01:52:42):
So these dudes won't come onthe land like he will.
Yeah, and that's what I tellartists the dude, the people
that's gonna give you your money, they're not gonna come on this
field.
So you gotta put everything onthis social media to make them
go happier, to get more happier,to get more excited, because
they, they get a rush offinstagram.
Everything is literally offinstagram, everything.

(01:53:03):
They watch tiktok and theywatch instagram and the more you
feed them, your dollar amountgonna keep going up.
You know, I mean they ain'tcoming to the trenches, they'll
watch you, but if you got yourcameraman with you every time
and y'all moving around, that'swhy content is a big key to
everything that's going on.
Rappers, I don't care if you'rejust a raw spitter Content.

(01:53:25):
Post 15-second little clips ofyou saying the hottest shit of a
song.
Like content.
Just keep putting it in.
They faces.
That wins the game right there.
Lil Baby or Thug Lil Baby.

Speaker 3 (01:53:39):
Keisha Cole or Monica .

Speaker 4 (01:53:41):
Keisha Cole.

Speaker 3 (01:53:44):
Usher or Chris Brown.

Speaker 4 (01:53:47):
Damn, damn, usher.

Speaker 1 (01:53:52):
You can't.

Speaker 3 (01:53:53):
All right, two-barrel lead banks.

Speaker 4 (01:53:54):
Oh, two-barrel lead banks, you got to give it to Lee
Banks.
Alright, two mirror, two mirror, you gotta give it.
You gotta give it to Lee Banks.
When you look at stats and youlook at what's going on, you got
Lay was just.
Lay was just on the WNBA.
Yeah, she's on the WNBAcommercial Fire.
You know what I mean?
I think she just got.

(01:54:15):
I seen something.
She got like mtv, uh, topartists of the world or
something like that.
Uh, october, november, some flystuff too rare, too rarely
banks.

Speaker 2 (01:54:27):
You should have done what's your god, what's her name
?
We always say what's her name.
We always say In here, who therapper?

Speaker 1 (01:54:37):
Rocky.

Speaker 2 (01:54:37):
No, the one that got the platinum record Dope Dizzle.

Speaker 3 (01:54:45):
What's her rap name?
Oh, tierra Whack, tierra Whack.

Speaker 2 (01:54:48):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (01:54:48):
Tierra Whack.
Man, that's too far TierraWhack.
If you see this, I love TierraWhack.
No, I love her.
Oh, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:54:57):
What you doing, man, I'll be dealing with her.
You rolling.

Speaker 3 (01:55:01):
But look though, One got to go One got to go though.

Speaker 2 (01:55:04):
Man you ready for this, let's go.
You want to do it or I'll go.
Go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:55:10):
Go ahead, K, All right.
So this is the opposite.
So I'm going to say four people, and then you just choose.

Speaker 4 (01:55:16):
One of them got to go .

Speaker 1 (01:55:17):
Yeah right, all right , so I'm going to do the Philly
one first.
All right, nh, reed Meek orJoey J.

Speaker 4 (01:55:29):
Damn H.
I love you.
Nh got to go.

Speaker 1 (01:55:33):
Okay, okay, that was really a no-brainer for me being
his goal.
Another one I love you, nhgotta go.
Okay, okay, that was really ano brainer for real being his
dog.

Speaker 2 (01:55:39):
Another one.

Speaker 1 (01:55:40):
Huh, you got another one, no go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:55:42):
I'ma do state property Osquino Young, Chris,
Beanie, Siegel, Petey Crack onegotta go.

Speaker 1 (01:55:55):
Bam Seagull, petey Crack one gotta go.

Speaker 4 (01:55:59):
Mm Bam, petey and Petey is a spitter, but Petey
gotta go.
He inconsistent.

Speaker 3 (01:56:08):
Petey Petey on that list.

Speaker 4 (01:56:09):
Yeah, he is Damn.
But you hear why I say he gotto because he ain't outside.

Speaker 3 (01:56:13):
Yeah, he the most inconsistent, petey Crack, petey
Crack, mos, petey Crack.

Speaker 1 (01:56:15):
Osquino young Chris Beanie Siegel he the most
inconsistent.

Speaker 4 (01:56:20):
And I said Petey had to go.
I said Petey had to go.

Speaker 2 (01:56:24):
And Petey hot the brrring, no way, petey way to
the baby a little bit better.

Speaker 1 (01:56:29):
Yeah, that was real, it would have been.
I'm going to do the little downsouth joint.
We got All right TI, Gucci,Jeezy and Gotti.

Speaker 4 (01:56:50):
Damn TI.

Speaker 1 (01:56:52):
Damn, what the fuck.
You the best person, never mind.

Speaker 4 (01:56:55):
Everybody got their own opinions here.
I don't really respect TI.
All the fuck.
You the best person, Nah man.
Everybody got their ownopinions here.
I don't really respect y'allall the way.

Speaker 2 (01:56:59):
Time.
Whoa.
Now he took it somewhere else.
Urban, what's your name Now youjust took it somewhere else.

Speaker 4 (01:57:06):
That's how y'all feel .
I ain't who would y'all be.

Speaker 2 (01:57:08):
Now you talking crazy .

Speaker 3 (01:57:13):
All right, so let's do this.
Yo, that's my guy, though.
Shout out to him let's do this,let's do this.
Reasonable doubt.

Speaker 1 (01:57:18):
That was crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:57:19):
Let's do this what did he just say he took it way
out of the park?

Speaker 1 (01:57:24):
with that.
I don't respect him.

Speaker 2 (01:57:26):
Everybody on the list respect me.
Reasonable doubt.

Speaker 1 (01:57:29):
That was crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:57:29):
Everybody on the list respect me.
Because you don't know the thatlist.
Respect boy, because you'reyounger, so let's do these
albums, let's do it.

Speaker 3 (01:57:40):
That's, if it is the good, let's do these albums
let's do thug.
Motivation 101 whoa, you'regoing crazy um thug motivation
101.
Watch the throne um StillMaddie and Dark and Hella,

(01:58:07):
hella's Hot DMX One gotta go.

Speaker 4 (01:58:11):
Still Maddie, because I don't even know what that is.

Speaker 3 (01:58:15):
That's Nas.

Speaker 4 (01:58:16):
It sounds like Nas.
Yeah, yeah, I was more of aJay-Z fan and Nas was bombing on
hoes too, but I was like that'swhat I'm saying when I was at
the barbershop.

Speaker 2 (01:58:25):
You cool, stillmatic is good girl.

Speaker 4 (01:58:27):
Yeah, yeah, them Jay-Z, them Jay-Z, dang I like
the album doing.

Speaker 2 (01:58:35):
I ain't never hear us do albums.

Speaker 1 (01:58:37):
Yeah, that was a good one.

Speaker 4 (01:58:39):
Hey.

Speaker 2 (01:58:40):
Do the CEOs real quick though.

Speaker 4 (01:58:44):
I wanted to touch on one more thing too.
Go ahead.
No, I wanted to touch onbecause there was something else
that when we speaking on thethings that I do, like the
empowerment program.
I got an empowerment programwhere I go to schools, ok, and I
take my peers and we teach theyoung kids, we expose them to
entrepreneurship and we teachthem different trades and

(01:59:06):
different things like that.
So when I speak on like thedifferent things and why I feel
like I am who I am, is because,like, look how we setting these
people up for the future.
Yeah, we bring in housingprograms for the parents, we
bring in trades for the adultsand the kids and then we bring
in trades and they, starting offat 10 years old, to have these

(01:59:30):
kids by the time they turn 14.
They they mind like yo.
I learned this that that thatthey could pick from a lot of
different things.
They don't gotta go to college,so it's like we like setting
them up and when people betalking that like for the hood,
you know, for the future, thisis what that looks like.

(01:59:54):
This is what that looks like.
This is what that looks like wecould have a future too.

Speaker 2 (01:59:56):
So you could add us on if you need us for whatever
the empowerment program.
For sure I see what y'all doing.

Speaker 4 (02:00:05):
I seen the couple visits y'all had with Manny 215
that's another young nigga.
I give him his respect.
Manny, out here making a namefor himself doing what he do you
gotta respect anybody that'sout here making the name for
himself doing what he do.
Yeah, you know, I mean.
So that's definitely.
You know.
You got to respect anybodythat's out here.
That's being rejected, butdon't let rejection turn you
away yeah you still gonna go andget it.

(02:00:26):
So that's very well respectedman.
But yeah, like I just wanted totap in on that, like there's a
lot that we do that a guy likeme I don't go around bragging
about these things or thedifferent things that I've done
for people, because I'm so busycontinuously doing it yeah you
know what I mean.
But I felt like I need to get uphere to these podcasts, I need

(02:00:47):
to show a little bit of thisside of me because, like I said,
people only know that glam andglitter and then when I chilled
and pivoted and went this way,they like well, damn, martin
Luther King, malcolm X, that'sthe shit that you start getting.
When people don't understandchange and a transition, they
start saying hate and shit.

Speaker 1 (02:01:07):
They reject it.
Yeah, like damn, oh damn.
It's like bro.
Save the world you know, what Imean.

Speaker 3 (02:01:12):
No, it's like, bro you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (02:01:13):
Save the world.

Speaker 2 (02:01:15):
No, it's Philly, though.
All right, that's the last oneright here.
Oh, I had one, but go ahead.

Speaker 3 (02:01:20):
All right, Master no.

Speaker 4 (02:01:42):
Jay-Z, dr Dre, diddy Birdman, one gotta go Dang.
That's really really tough.

Speaker 3 (02:01:47):
And this is off of a personal opinion right?

Speaker 4 (02:01:50):
Uh-huh, I respect and I love.
I used to really like love JayZand respect GZ, but GZ got to
go yeah who I ain't going toargue with that.

Speaker 2 (02:02:07):
I got one more for you and we can wrap this up.
It's going to be NBA greatestbasketball players Michael
Jordanordan lebron, james, kobebryant.
Last but not least, who shouldI pick?
I'm gonna say steve kerr,stephen curry, matter of fact

(02:02:30):
I'm about to say what's up likewhat.

Speaker 4 (02:02:34):
I mean you just made it easy right there and he is a
goop.

Speaker 3 (02:02:38):
but yeah, curry got to go when you put him on that
list like he got to fucking go.

Speaker 4 (02:02:43):
I can't disrespect.

Speaker 3 (02:02:44):
LeBron and him you know what I mean and Curry is
yeah.
They did too much.
They didn't do enough.

Speaker 1 (02:02:50):
Curry did come in.
What would you say?
I would have said Larry.

Speaker 4 (02:02:54):
Bird or some shit.

Speaker 1 (02:02:55):
I would have said LeBron.

Speaker 4 (02:02:58):
Magic Johnson, charles Barkley.
He ain't with no chips, I know.
But.

Speaker 2 (02:03:05):
I'm just saying I would have had to say Julius
Irving.

Speaker 4 (02:03:08):
Or somebody like that I'm going to give it a B.

Speaker 1 (02:03:11):
You could have put Kev in there.

Speaker 4 (02:03:13):
Kevin Durant.
That would have made it realant.
That would have made it realhard, yeah.
That would have made it realhard I wouldn't have said Kevin
Durant, kevin Durant, I didn'teven think of Durant.

Speaker 2 (02:03:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:03:23):
Kevin Durant.
He would have been the perfectfourth spot.
Yeah, yeah, that's the nexttime.

Speaker 2 (02:03:28):
But look, man, we appreciate you coming through
this.
The real of the month,Definitely, definitely.
He came through, gave his story.
He taught us a lot, man, and Iain't even finished.

Speaker 4 (02:03:38):
Y'all might as well stay tuned for the documentary
or something you might as welljust come back up bro.
Yeah, no, I told y'all, whenI'm satisfied on the results,
I'm going to do another run.

Speaker 3 (02:03:51):
That's it, let's go.

Speaker 4 (02:03:52):
We're going to do another run.
Let's go.
We're going to do another oneRight now.
It's just to say I'm outside,that's what this was about.

Speaker 2 (02:03:57):
Yeah, we here.

Speaker 4 (02:03:58):
I'm here.

Speaker 2 (02:04:00):
We're about to swing the chopper.

Speaker 4 (02:04:01):
That chopper, that Draco, you know what I mean.
That thing, I'm swinging it.
You hear me?
It's going down, man.
Y'all hear the first right hereon the real of the most podcast
man.
This is one of the firstpodcasts that I've done in the
last couple years and I mean,and like I'm back, I'm back
outside I'll be feeling like arapper, like you know how the

(02:04:23):
rappers be popping that shitlike I'm back in my bag.
Man, I'm in my sauce man they'vebeen seeing me outside they're
like dude, what the fuck youdoing outside?
But I'm back, baby, yeah, andwe coming to take this by a
storm and um, for everybodythat's watching this, yo, just
pray for us.
I mean pray for everybody inthis room.
Pray that you know our journeyis successful and that's what I

(02:04:46):
pray for when I pray.
I pray that allah guide us.
He got my kids, he got myjourney, yeah, and as you see,
the results start to happen.
Continue to pray you.
Good, I'm saying, continue topray so, but prayer is one of
the most number one things thatyou need to be able like cash.
You said you go through themhard times.

(02:05:07):
We think weed and drugs is theway to cope.
No, if you got to nigga, go gopray, go cry and pray Like nigga
.
When my dad was booked, I usedto be in my room on my knees
crying Like yo, I can't get thatAmber Crime.
I can't wait for my dad to gethome Because I couldn't.
When everybody was going to themall, I was going to Old Navy.

(02:05:30):
When everybody was going toAmber Crime, be an American
Eagle, because that's what mybudget Old Navy wasn't bad but,
it started being levels.
The rips wasn't right, so I usedto pray and I used to pray, and
I used to pray.
The rips wasn't right, but noman, prayer is key, man.
Stay prayed up y'all.
Really the most podcast.

(02:05:52):
I appreciate y'all and yourteam.

Speaker 1 (02:05:54):
I'm real, I'm out of world cash.

Speaker 2 (02:05:56):
I'm white boy D2A and this is the Real of the most
podcast.
Y'all stay tuned, then we gonnakeep Giving y'all more content
Like this.
We out of here, man, we out,and yo Y'all can follow me On
all social media platforms AtCEO Big Duke.

Speaker 4 (02:06:09):
At CEO Big Duke On all social media platforms.
If you need to get with meabout some real business, my
link is in my bio for the email.
Just hit me up with an email Ifyou got some good ideas, if
y'all want to work, let's get ity'all.

Speaker 3 (02:06:23):
I'm about to make that Casamigo with the bumba
Peace to y'all.
Really the Moose Podcast.

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