CULTURE AND CONNECTIONS ft. K. SMITH | RTM PODCAST | SZN 2 EP 25 - Realer Than Most Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Really the Moose Podcast.
Surski Guito Big Guito, youcall him K Smith.

(00:48):
You know he's Big Guito.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Big Westside, my guy.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Big Westside.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Family.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
What's up y'all?

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Hey man, nah man.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
You're putting it together.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Man, how y'all feeling.
Happy New Year, oh man, happyNew Year, man, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Happy New Year, city.
How y'all feeling.
Happy new year, oh man, happynew year, man, you know, happy
new years we, we pushing ourwhich, how you said, we pushing
the needle.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Yeah, we pushing the needle on the game for sure yeah
, what y'all got going on y'allcoming to la.
I heard yeah, no, we definitelybe in la in march, okay, so you
know, come on rolling loud, youknow what I'm saying really the
most rolling loud we, just weshot we shot.
We shot seven episodes in sixdays.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
OK.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Now I mean studio K Gibbs video papers that's ready
to hit.
I mean, I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
We just been rolling man.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
I'm saying my man, my boy, man he been, he been
handling the other side.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
We just look strong.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Appreciate you, man Look together, together, that's.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
That's what the movement is about I appreciate
that man.
We've been working my boy, healways working he always yeah,
man, he ain't been getting nosleep man what we did seven
shows, six days I know, he justnodded off crazy good, crazy
seven shows six days.
Yeah, man, I'm like this is it?

Speaker 2 (02:03):
that's it, that's the shit.
Yeah, that's the light here too.
Yeah, me too.
I mean, yeah me too, I ain'tgonna cap but thank you all for
having me on here.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Man, family, bro, it's like I'm back.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
It's like.
It's like.
It's like you know, you know wehad our last joint and then,
like, ever since then, likewe've been a communication I'm
talking about like, not justlike now, I mean no like we've
been really tapped in and like,and like you always answer my
calls, my texts, is everythingyou call me I'm saying, and like
, like you just said, like we beputting together things to like

(02:35):
push the needle, yeah, likelike for the culture and for the
city about it.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
I'm saying like I said they gotta know about it.
Talk about it.
We all like-minded people.
You know what I'm saying.
Like I said they got to knowabout it, Talk about it.
We all like-minded people.
Like I'm not in a rush to justbuild relationships with anybody
, but when I run across peoplethat I feel is like-minded,
good-hearted people on a mission, focused, you know, mature,
then yeah, we're going to get toit and we're going to put
something together that'sbeneficial for all of us, for

(03:02):
the city, because all we want todo is push the culture forward,
push our families forward, makesome money, stay out the way,
stay alive, be successful have agood time, a good car, take
care of our girls, that's it.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Have a nice world, that's it.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Travel the world.
That's the key thing, traveling.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yeah, we ain't doing too much, man, we ain't.
Yeah, man, we don't, we justlike, we just like just standing
in front of like pushing phillyforward bro it's just been
enough of like love the bs, sojust, we, like y'all, got the
top podcast in the city.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
That's what I'm that's what I'm gonna say.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 (03:37):
we still work I've been hearing that in the
conversations we working theysaying that we're still working.
We appreciate all the realestone, right?
Yeah, yeah, that's, that's mostdefinitely.
That's, that's hands down,that's hands down.
Nah, yeah, hands down enjoy it,man.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
You know I I watch the podcast, I'm tuned into what
y'all got going on and, uh, youknow I I rock with the whole
movement.
I.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
I appreciate the way y'all look out for me too.
I could get some sneaks fromJaden.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
I told y'all I could get y'all some sneaks and some
new balances and chocolates frommy chocolate company.
Prestige Global Chocolate.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Rose and Will Smith movies.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
All of that, all of that.
I'm good after that, one'mtaking meetings y'all, hey man.
Y'all hearing here first, man,it's the Real of the Most
podcast.
It's the Real of the Mostpodcast.
It's coming from Big Geetohimself.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
For sure you dig.
Hey man, he press buttons.
Bro, things happen.
That's what I'm hearing.
So I'm trying to get in a movie.
You know what I'm saying orsomething.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
I already done put people in a movie, I put Meek in
a movie, I put Chino in a movie.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Charm City.
I remember that you flex likethat.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
No, I remember that I didn't like I definitely didn't
know that as one of yourcredits.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Overbrook.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
Entertainment, so like with Charm City Kings.
That was a movie that theyalready had the documentary
about that specific movie.
It was a real life documentaryand Meek and I was already on it
and shit like that, but Meekkept going to jail.
So so Overbrook and Jay-Zbought the rights to the movie
so they could shoot the movieand Meek was always going to be

(05:28):
the star in the movie.
But, Meek kept going to jail.
So Meek went to jail maybe liketwo times right during the time
where we were supposed to shootthe movie.
So we had to put it on hold andit got to a point where Meek

(05:50):
last time he was going to jail Iguess it was for the two to
four yeah, yeah, four.
So they like yo, we're gonnaget somebody else to play that
role now because we gotta keepit going.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
It's a major production.
They done.
Already bought it.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
They done bought the script.
Meek ended up coming home andthe day me got out of jail he
called me like yo, I want tostill be in the movie.
Okay, I'm like, yeah, no, we'regonna put you in a movie for
sure, but they saying that theyjust going to have another role
for you now.
You can't because what happenedis, as soon as Meek went to
jail, they hired another kind ofbigger actor or known actor.
I don't remember who it was,but it was a no.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
Meek was big because he came home Like a Michael B
Jordan type of– it was a realactor, though.
I'm with you.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
They had just signed his contract and everything, and
then Meek got out of jail.
So, like I said, the day hecalled me he like yo Nod.
I'm like, yeah, we got a rolefor you.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
He like Nod I want the main role.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
He went I want that same Rob Markman.
So I called Caleb, who wasJada's brother, who was running
the whole movie, and shit likethat.
I'm like, yeah, meek said hewant the role, he like man, we
just signed a deal for thisactor and da, da, da, da da Rob
Markman.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
And you just said.
I said Meek said he want therole.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
Meek Say I'm like no.
Meek said he want the main roleFlat out.
We ain't doing that.
He went the baby road, Realshit.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Real shit.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
He's like all right, I'm going to see what can happen
.
I tell Meek yeah, they're goingto see what can happen.
They call me back the next dayand they're like yo, we
basically just fired this nigga.
Is Meek really?

Speaker 2 (07:17):
going to do it?
Oh my God, Is Meek really goingto do the movie?
Gito pushed it through, man.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
If Meek really going to do the movie?
Is he really?

Speaker 2 (07:22):
going to be on deck.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
I called him.
I'm like yeah, we need.
Meek to confirm with us rightnow so we can get the contracts
and everything.
I called Meek on three-way.
Meek said he's going to confirmwith y'all tonight.
You know what I'm saying theyconfirmed tonight and we locked
it in.
I've been put Chino in themovie, Jada told me, because
Mika always wanted Chino in themovie, though I ain't gonna lie.

(07:46):
So we had the meeting when webrought the rights to the movie
and Jada just brought me in andshe like yo, this is your people
and your culture.
I want you to have a heavyinfluence on what we're doing
and I just want you to be anexecutive producer and a part of
it.
So what do we need to do?
So the first thing I said waswe got to get Chino in the movie
.
This story is really him Hisstory you understand.

(08:09):
So she's like all right, cool,Fly him down tomorrow.
So I flew Chino down to BigWillie Crib the next day, put
him up in a hotel.
We had a meeting with JadaLocked.
Chino went for the movie Crazy.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
It was good.
And then that's how we got meatback in the movie.
And yeah, charm City Kings, wewent to Baltimore and we had
some business.
Yo listen Ahead of time,anything that you think is good
for us lock us already in, bro,and we just gonna show up.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
You ain't even gotta ask me, bro.
No, I got somebody good, I gotsomebody.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
great for this.
Yeah, for real.
Don't even worry about it.
You get my green light.
What man Cora we in?

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Stop calling number.
Take my number.
You got like six phones you cancall Green light.
Yeah, we in there.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
Green light.
My boy, I like that, I ain'tgoing to lie.
You fight for what you believein.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
You fight for Fight for your people.
That's what I see.
I respect that.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
You see what I'm saying and like we were saying,
just having that edge of havingWest Philly and having LA, okay,
business-wise, all right.
Meek, you keep going to jail,you're drawn, they're going to
hire somebody else.
I'm going to try to push itthrough because you'll be great
for it and it fits you.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
It's your role.
Really, it's your role, rob.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
Markman, it's your role, rob Markman, it's your
role, rob Markman.
And so you kept it real.
That's the Philly in you, butyou think in business too.
Wham, now you got as soon asyou get Mika involved, all right
now that I got the big fishinvolved.
Wham, that's cool.
All right now.
This is whole.
This is little bro culturethat's going to be in the movie
Rob Markman.
The man that's going to be inthe movie Rob Markman.

(09:42):
The man that's going to be inthe movie Rob Markman, the man
that's going to be in the movieRob Markman the man that's going
to be in that movie K, becauseI told him he was going to be in

(10:04):
a movie because I had enoughpull to get niggas in a movie
and do it.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Shot your load with Chino.
No, I didn't shoot my load,it's just that when it came to
it and I'm going to keep it realman.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
It's the realest of the most podcast.
Yeah, it's the realest of themost Might as well, baby told me
Nipsey was just a West Coastrapper.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
It ain't make sense when people see him on the
screen.
It just was going to look likea West Coast rapper on a bike.
Rob Markman.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
So you know what.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Nipsey Hinge, but hold on, I got to say something.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Rob Markman, go ahead , say it.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
Nipsey Hinge.
I always knew that Nip wasn'tjust a West Coast rapper.
I always knew who Nip was forthe culture.
I always knew the man he wasand the being he was because I
had a relationship with him.
So I never was putting Nip in amovie, in a dirt bike movie.
That was the East Coast movie,because he was a West Coast
rapper.
I was putting him in because hewas Nipsey Hussle and that's a
different thing.

(10:55):
So look, you understand.
So just by a clip, I'm glad yousaid that, I said yo Nip.
Just I said all y'all got to dois just have Nip sitting on a
dirt bike.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
That's it, and get a three-second clip, ride and pass
.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
That's it, woody minute.
I said we got everybody on theWest Coast just all for that I
said that's all we need.
And when I was talking to Nip,I said Nip, I'm going to fly you
out to Baltimore.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
I'm going to take care of everything, bro, he was
a businessman.
You know what I'm saying, andthat's crazy because that's what
I was going to say.
My bad to even try to cut youoff.
That's what I was going to say.
See, the people that didn'tfully know about Nip, they just
looked at him as like himholding down the West Coast.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
They didn't know how prolific he understand.
They didn't know who he was asa person.
If you know who he was as aperson you will understand the
rap shit was kind of like he wasa rapper, but it was a figure
you understand, so it's adifference.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
No, I totally get that and I like that you fight
for your people, bro, because wedon't have that.
So, like, especially in a big.
You know what I mean and thatstature of things.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
Rob Markman.
But I made sure I told them.
Niggas, when Nip got killed Iwas in Miami and I got a phone
call yesterday I'll never forget.
I was sitting in Miami, I wasin the penthouse at a Mandarin
and it was me, big Willie, jadaand Caleb, and I told them.

(12:31):
I said Big Willie and Jadaain't never tell me this, just
so y'all know.
But whoever else was there Itold them.
I said remember, niggas told methat Nick was just a West Coast
rapper.
And now y'all are sad, but wheny'all looking on the gram it
was thousands and thousands ofpeople showing up to support Nip
and da-da-da and they was ableto understand like no, he wasn't

(12:54):
just a West Coast rapper man,he was a figure.
You understand, he was somebodyon this earth.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Bro, nip was one of the first, because there's a few
of them, but he was one of thefirst of our kind, like our kind
87, 86, 85.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Mm, hmm, that ain't that ain't that, ain't that,
ain't my.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
I'm 89.
But you know, you two, yeah,you and I, that's the arrow,
that's the arrow, you just theend.
So it's Bro.
Independence.
What man it's still Should I besaying that Independence first,
I'll be like Believe inyourself Was Flip really on that
.
Read these books.
Yeah, flip used to give mebooks, the information is in
these books, y'all.

(13:42):
He don't rap and gave me a bookto read.
Bro, he was the first onetelling us that.
Yo no.
In philly I read a book about acheesesteak spot in philly that
was selling hundred dollarcheesesteaks.
I took that same method andtook it to crenshaw.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
I'm selling a hundred dollars, crenshaw tapes tell
them hustle, you feel me realshit.
First rapper, then he's sellinga thousand dollars, then he
turned it up and sell a thousanddollar project.
Come on, markman, proud to paycampaign.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
That was just a campaign on who proud to pay.
Now you got Jay-Z ordering up10,000 CDs.
A thousand, a thousand of them.
Yeah, I'm saying.
You got people putting inorders a thousand CDs at a time,
playing with nips spending10,000 at a time.
Just because of what he wastalking and what he was trying
to do for the community.
Yeah, just because of what hewas talking and what he was
trying to do for the community.
Rob Markman yeah, for real, LilJon, it wasn't just like the

(14:26):
raps or West Coast.
No.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
He was way more to the community what he meant.
Rob Markman, right, lil Jon, itwas powerful.
Rob Markman, yo, before wecontinue, make sure y'all share,
like, subscribe, comment.
If you don't, lil Jon, you's af***ing hater.
Rob Markman, because it's free,rob Markman, you already know
man.
Rob Markman.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
You dig Rob Markman.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
It's really the most podcast.
Before we continue, I just wantto speak on you really being
connected in LA, how you are.
Was it you doing music startingoff your connects out there?

(15:03):
Was it me doing music RobMarkman, Because you know you
could just be Joe Schmo.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
You could just be, will Neff, not doing nothing,
chilling at the tennis racket.
You feel me you could not bedoing nothing.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Rob Markman, the music was part of it, because
the music is the culture.
So because I was making music.
I was tapped into the cultureof LA and the culture is YG at
the time.
You know what I'm saying DJMustard, nipsey, hussle this is
the culture.
It's a lot of other people, butthose was the main guys and
those was my guys.
I used to go out to the club inLA and YG would be like the

(15:38):
most cracking rapper in LABickin' back bad boy.
But he was on the radio and wewere super annoying.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
We talked about 16 years ago, though yeah, they can
bang before then he was beatingup the radio back then yeah, he
was like it's like back when mehad flamers on the radio.
Okay, yeah, all right, he wasthat, but everybody ain't know
yeah so it's why g was that forla.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
okay and dj mustard was.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
That makes sense.
They was together.
He was that for LA.
Dj Mustard was his.
That makes sense.
They was together.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
He got that Jeezy record and took off.
The Jeezy record took off butYG had other records that kind
of took off.
My Nigga, I think, was hisbiggest record at the time.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Jeezy, I've done a remix.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
I sent him all the way over.
Jeezy and Riz Kwan.
I, rob Markman and YG would bein the club and he had the
biggest record, but he ain't hadno money, you understand, and I
had some paper.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
I was doing my stuff at the time.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
But I always recognized who he was, so I
would help give him my look inthe club Anytime.
We in the club and I see YG inthe club come over here with us
if we got some bottles and wegot some girls and come get,
because they going to play yoursong.
It's going to be the biggestsong in the club anyway.
Rob Markman.
Right, right, right, youunderstand what.
I'm saying so we going to helpadd to the Rob Markman.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
I'm going to provide the aesthetics, Rob.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
Markman, we was outside, but we just added to
each other.
You know what I'm saying waslocked down from then.
And then another thing is myuncle had the studio called the
Boom Boom Room, rob.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
Markman.
I keep hearing about this BoomBoom Room, rob Markman it was
the best studio Me did thiswhole album there Dream Chasers
4, Dream Chasers 3, all of thatshit, Rob Markman.
The first album Rob Markman,the first album, all of that, so
we had the Boom Boom Room, robMarkman, the legendary Boom Boom
Room, and I really ran the boom, boom room.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
So I had that's.
When I had nip and them comingthrough, I had mustard coming
through.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
I mean I did that there.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Y'all had, we shot the video.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
Y'all had some top tier work coming through the
boom boom room, bro.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
I had all the work.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Come on, I'm talking about no no, oh, the top.
Top tear work bipping throughthe boom, boom, boom.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
I had all the work but Meek took it to another
level with the kind of work hehad coming through.
Because he started to have top,top, top, top, top work.
Meek was going at it with thefresh prints, though that's
crazy Kaz was bipping in thatjoint.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
You heard me, kaz was bipping in that joint, bro.
Top tear work, meek had a top,top work.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
I just have 20 or 30 of them, rob Markman.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Rob Markman Stable.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
Rob Markman.
Yeah, no, we they.
They wasn't.
They was running around, RobMarkman, they talking about
stable.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
No, rob Markman, they was running around Rob Markman.
It was called the boom boomroom, rob Markman, the Staple
Rob.
Markman, the Staple Rob Markman, the Staple Rob Markman the
Staple Rob Markman, the StapleRob Markman, the Staple Rob
Markman, the Staple Rob.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
Markman, the Staple, rob Markman, the Staple, rob
Markman, the Staple, rob Markman, the Stap through, we on fire
at this time.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yeah, I'm a boss.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
Yeah, it was lit.
I had YG and Nip and Mustardgiving me cash.
They booking through me.
Imagine how that made me feel Ican tell them that, matter of
fact, nip, go ahead, rock outtoday.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
Yeah, it's on me.
You know what I'm saying Shitlike that.
That feel good Like it went along way.
I'm telling you, yeah, that'sso great, we was really locked
in so.
So look with, all right.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
So you, you just set up, so that just explains like
meet relationship, yourrelationship.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
And you just said a bunch of top tier names that a
bunch of top tier names thatthat ultimately like blew up in
their careers.
All three of those guys.
Rob Markman yeah, everybody.
Rob Markman, to look at YG nowI'm talking about with fashion
music, rob Markman I just seenYG maybe two weeks ago at the

(19:38):
Wild N' Out event.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
We was both coming through the back door, through
the backstage.
I was leaving and I don't know,we just crossed paths.
We was coming through a doorand he was coming through the
back door, like through thebackstage.
I was leaving and I don't know,we just crossed paths and we
was coming through a door and hewas coming through right there
and I wanted to see him becausethat's really my boy, rob
Markman.
Yeah, lil Jon, he perform, andI'm like no, I ain't going to
really go out my way to go tryand get with him, because it's a
thousand niggas and shit likethat.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
and I got some chicks with me, Rob Markman.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
Shit different.
I ain't going to go chasingafter a nigga.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
I got some chicks with me and shit like that.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
But we ended up crossing paths and we seen each
other.
He was happy as shit.

Speaker 2 (20:10):

Speaker 1 (20:11):
Yeah, he like nigga, I've been seeing you so much
outside lately, nigga give meyour number.
We got a link up to the Fire.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Can I ask you something?

Speaker 1 (20:19):
How many plays you put together in that era?
You said plays, plays you puttogether in that era.
You said please at that time,like he was the playmaker at
that time and it plays, yeahunlimited please, man, like I
said, the reason all of the ygand meek, and that came think
about that, though, all of thatanything you've seen with that
I'll be paying unlimited playstogether sitting around it was
unlimited plays that we wasputting together.

(20:41):
That wasn't even just like onthe music tip.
It was like on some real life,because at that time I so hit
maker, which is bird, that'sright my close friend and, you
know, my business partner at thetime.
So he did dangerous for me.
He did a whole bunch of some ofmeek big records yeah then I uh
like we just all was togetherand we was mobbing and um, yeah,

(21:02):
it was a good time, it was away to play his making it
together.
So wait, hitmaker, yg, nipsey,hussle or Meek Mill.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
Some big names.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
Even like the top promoters in the clubs at that
time was my closest friends.
So we all kind of.
It was like a main period wherewe had, like, our hands on
every area and aspect ofsomething that was necessary.
So, yeah, we was on some shitand everybody's still doing
their thing, but that era is anera that you can't get back Like

(21:30):
LA.
Ain't the same as that rightnow?
Right?

Speaker 2 (21:33):
Yeah, Come on man.
You know how this go, andpeople like you know what I mean
.
They really went off and didwell in their careers.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
Yeah, everybody became successful, successful
man and doing their thing andable to take care of their
families, and you know, and longlive knit everybody else is
doing their thing, and there wasa lot of other people right in
between.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
And then now, and then now, yeah, yeah no, we know
I, it's just good to see thatlike that.
It was like see that like whaty'all created at that time was
like you know, that was like mefirst time out there and then he
creating this first album, it'skind of like you know he needed
that vibe for them.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
Certain records, yeah he did Real talk.
It was there.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
It was there, Like you know, just showing the right
places where we need to go eatyou know what.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
I'm saying be where we need to float, where we need
to shop, because vice versa,though.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
K Smith had the love out here too.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Yeah, but from that time on it's like that's how we
seen them bipp through the city,like how they was bippin in LA.
He brought that aesthetic rightto the city.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
Well, we knew, but the people would have heard they
bippin like that.
And he come to Philly.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
They look like Rob Markman Jr.
Same way 10 forms Back to backto back to back to back.
Rob Markman Jr.
Yeah, but it looked like.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
K Smith just coming here to stunt and do his one-two
.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
That's just really how they moving, rob.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
Markman Jr.
But for real they was alreadybipping like that.
We was already on that.
Rob Markman Jr, they wasbipping already from here to LA.
Yeah, we was was throwing me.
I was like you know, like yeah,you had a great record, I had a
record, but I was around Like Ihad a lot of shit going on,

(23:12):
like I was just active in a lotof different ways.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
I remember you pulled up with the.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Gucci bags.
They played a game because ofhouse arrest.
Yeah, when he on house arrest.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Yeah, he was on house arrest.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
That was real shit, that was real shit.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
Rob Markman Jr.
That was.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
You see how I'm pulling up.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Yeah, that was back then I pullup.
I think I had a Louis bag witha PlayStation in it or an Xbox
or something.
Yeah, came through.
Meek was on house arrest.
That was like his third day outof me and Romeo was my close

(23:47):
friend because we used to all goto Michael Jordan camp and play
ball and shit together.
Goddamn bro so we did a groupcalled the College Boys.
It was like some goofy shit,but P told us he was like at
that time we was in LA.
The New Boys was.
They had the number one song inthe country called your jerk
you're a jerk, yeah, so master p.
He told me he like yo, he's like.

(24:09):
I did my whole career onfinding out what's the hottest
song and taking it.
He literally told me that.
He said I'll take it.
He said I'll do it over, do thesame tempo, you know, switch
four sounds in the beat and redoit.
So we kind of the College Boyscame out.
I never even went to highschool, but we was the College

(24:30):
Boys.
I just was me in the group.
Rob Markman.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Right, yeah, just selling it.
Rob Markman, you know, but wewas on one of those Rob Markman
Well, never even went to highschool.
Called the College Boys.
Rob Markman, I never went tohigh school because I got sent
away and shit you know what I'msaying?
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
But we was on 106 and Park and things like that.
You know, we had like a numbertwo video on 106 and Park.
I went to number two and thatwas a group I was in, and then I
had a song with Omarion Betterman.
That was my first song.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Yeah, yeah, I was like 16 or 17.
Yeah, that kind of around thetime when y'all was.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
That was a long time ago 15, 16 years ago, 20.
It might have been longer thanthat 20.
Yeah, that's probably 20 yearsago, I'm 35 right now, so I
think I'd be a better man when Iwas 17, 16.
Yeah, that was 20 years ago, 19years ago, Almost.
Yeah, that was with Omarion.
I had a big video with that.
I was on Rest Park in themorning show tours.
It was like me Bird Plaz, RobMarkman.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
That was a crazy budget too, Lil Jon.
It was big.
At that time Rob Markman Onksaid go ahead, do your thing,
man Lil Jon.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Yeah.
Rob Markman, who you pinning onthe song Go ahead, do your
thing, man Lil Jon.
Yeah, really, the budget wasopen.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
Rob Markman.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
Yeah, lil Jon, I ain't.
Gonna lie.
That shit was open at that time.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
Yeah man it felt good , I was happy, I was about to
say that feeling right there.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
Just somebody been behind your career and this back
then.
Yeah, this back then, come outsong.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
O was the biggest thing in the world.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
Yeah, this back then.
He just went solo Yup, he didYup.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
You talk about he coming off of all of these dream
tours.
He's come out with music.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
be like I'm about to go get Omarion and then it's
crazy y'all because, at thattime, though, I thought I knew
everything and shit like that,and I didn't know nothing, and I
wasn't even good at makingmusic, to tell y'all the truth.
I went to the studio and Ilocked in for like a year
straight in the studio.

(26:26):
When you realized you wasn'tgood at making music.
I wasn't until I got good,probably after I locked in the
studio for that year, becauseyou just realize it's just
levels.
I won't say that I wasn't good.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Who made you sure?

Speaker 1 (26:40):
No, because you could hear some music.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
Who was you around or who was you in the studio with
to be like, damn, I ain't reallythat hot Like I got to step my
shit up Young Bulls.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
he just name would make me want to step my shit up.
It's crazy, because so Berg,the first person that let me
know his levels, and Berg, thereason why I became who I am and
making music.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Okay, okay, there we go.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
What I do, making music, you'll know I learned a
lot of the formula from Bird.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Because he that nigga when it come to producing.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
For sure.
Let's be clear.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
Come on bro.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
Even Meek.
I'm going to keep it real.
Meek had a certain sound that Ineeded to that I kind of picked
up naturally being around himand I had a certain sound that
he picked up naturally beingaround me.
So Meek back in the day used tokind of like rap faster and you
know it was like a certainsound and I ran that time

(27:34):
because, since I was workingwith berg and like that, I knew
how to make the girl recordsokay.
So I adapted and picked up someof the style that he had.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
And then he picked up some of the style that I had
when it came to just slowing hisflow down and rapping towards
the girls and the way to do it.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
You can tell on Flamers too.
Huh, you can tell on Flamerstoo.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
I was in a session with Meek, first Song with Chris
Brown and none of it came outbecause politics and I told him
it wasn't going to come out.
But I remember we went to thestudio, rob Markman, because of
politics.
That's funny, Rob Markman.
Is that the song that we heard?
Though I'm with you?

Speaker 2 (28:12):
No, I ain't hear it, rob Markman, it's a whole nother
one.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
It's a whole nother.
Chris Brown.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Rob Markman.
Yeah, it never came out.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
Like Chris was in there with Carucci and shit, and
I'll never forget.
And the reason why I'll neverforget this ain't to downplay
Meek on no level.
It's because it made me feelgood that he approached me like
this.
He like hey, this your sound.
How should I come on this John?

Speaker 2 (28:35):
How should I carry?

Speaker 1 (28:36):
it this way this is more your bop.
I don't know how to do this.
And at that time Meek still hadI'm a boss and he was lit and
shit like that.
So it was like, and even thenand he looked up to me in
certain ways, but I looked up tohim in certain ways, so it just
made it stand out to me becauseit made me feel good it's
something your bop, somethingyour bop.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
That he asked me that you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
We in the room with Chris Brown.
And at that time I'm like no,you got it I yeah, I locked in a
studio for a year, year and ahalf.
I went to the studio everysingle day.
I got around 1500 Mars from1500.
For people that don't know,1500 is like a big group of

(29:17):
musicians and songwriters andartists that write in LA.
They done wrote for Jay-Z,kanye West and everybody in the
world some of the biggestrecords.
But it's a group of youngniggas like us that's just very
talented.
They play every instrumental andthey got it down pat Mars,
rance, james Font, leroy andthere's several other ones as

(29:38):
well, and I locked in with Marsand I locked in with them for
about a year and a half and Bergand I learned what I was doing
Because it's a formula yeah,it's a formula to making records
.
Yeah, yeah, berg got that touch.
Then you got to put in themhours on the mic, man, yeah, on
the mic.
It's like you just got to putin hours Learn your vocals
Different mic techniques Learnyour vocals.

(29:59):
Learn the vocals, your vocalslearn your tone.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Your tone is a big part of it.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
Right, so yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
Damn, now that's dope .
You got to basically you knowwhat I mean really develop your
style and your bars andeverything at a high level.
So it's like you know justbeing up under the ones that
you're around it, justautomatically.

(30:26):
Give you motivation and pushyou further, to like just want
to make better music.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Rob Markman.
Yeah, rob Markman, hell.
Yeah, because you know, backthen, when you younger and shit,
you think you know everything.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
You think?

Speaker 1 (30:38):
you got it.
You think the things thatpeople trying to tell you don't
really matter.
They old, they don't know whatthey talking about.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
That shit don't matter.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
Yeah, and it probably did matter, you know,
especially when you know thatyou wasn't where.
Now, looking back, you knowthat you ain't, you wasn't, I
wasn't on shit.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
Right, you know what I'm saying, right.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
I thought I was on the other side of it is like I
firmly feel like I can get in aroom with Jay-Z or anybody and
know what I'm talking about andcarry it and produce something
that my culture and my peoplegoing to like.
Rob Markman, yeah, rob Markman.
So yeah, rob Markman.
That's what's important.
Rob Markman, mm.
Hmm, rob Markman.
Know what I mean Having thatlike having that with you first,

(31:20):
rob Markman.
That confidence, rob Markman,yeah, and then you know what I
mean.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Go ahead and step in the booth and give it to the
world.
No, for real shit.
That's the.
That's the.
That's the how I would want tofeel going into it yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
Yeah, what's up with?
Y'all though how y'all feeling.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
Oh man, you know what I'm saying let's, let's just
vibe man we ain been talkingabout.
We've been working.
Man got knocked out.
We had.
We had Molly on yesterday.
We was been with Mollyyesterday.
We and I bro, you know, MollyCobain.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Oh yeah, Molly get knocked out.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yeah, he ain't getting knocked out, but he lost
, so I ain't gonna lie man Mollyfrom the West.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
Side.
So shout out Molly from theWest Side, you're sitting there.
My niggas called me like Yo.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
I ain't gonna lie man Marley from the West Side, so
shout out Marley from the.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
West Side.
He from Master Street.
We was sitting there.
My niggas called me.
They like damn, this is what wegot to represent the West Side
for.
I was like no Sloan coming man,we cool.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Sloan coming up in a little bit what you do to Sloan.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
Sloan from Master Street had it.
I wanted to punch on something,so what happened?

Speaker 2 (32:25):
Speaker.
1.
Hey, gil Gito, did he respondor Speaker 2.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
He responded.
He told me he responded.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
I even added him on.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
Instagram.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
Speaker 1.
Damn Speaker.
2.
But uh he responded.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
He told me like yo what's your weight, what's your
height?
I said I want to get on, getactive.
He like all right, bet he hemight have just not found and
and I probably hit him like twoweeks, three weeks before okay,
and I'm crazy, so it might havebeen fighting.
Yeah, that'd be hot I might beon the next one yeah, the next
one.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Yeah, because it, because it seemed like they're
gonna keep going.
It's a, it's a, definitely a,it's definitely good, it's like
how they did it.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
It's definitely good for the city because, you know,
I don't know I don't know if gotme up or what.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
I think we should do this on a regular, though.
Punch them some shit for sure,like.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Philly need to start like a Philly boxing joint on a
regular type, because it justbrought so many people out and
it's actually entertaining.
But there's niggas in Phillythat can really box Like I can
fight yeah.
I can fight boxing.
You got to have your wintogether.
I can box and shit too.
I don't want to say bring outthe boxers.
I would love the entertainmentside of it.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
I'm cool with that side of it.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
One thing about it is I know who I am so I knew, like
K Smith adding to it is goingto add something to the
situation People don't want tosee me get knocked out.
They're going to want to see mebe sturdy.
Whatever they going to want tosee, I got a name that's going
to come to it Rob Markman Jr.
I'm cool with the comedians andall that.
That's the funny part.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
Rob Markman Jr.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
But I like how Sloan and Rico got active.
Yeah, me too, rob.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
Markman Jr.
I like that.
I respect both of their handsthe way they did it too.
Young Ball Bike Life Rex themcould have got knocked out.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
Yeah, but they also like and they if you watch the
way they carried it, you can seethey respected each other.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
They ain't allowing them to get out of pocket.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
You know they had a good.
They put on a good event forthem.
It was a great show they bothleft out of you know their heads
held high.
I ain't really see a loser inthat type of situation.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Me either.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
yeah, Because they both stood sturdy.
No it was good for both of them.
Yeah, hell, yeah man.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
For sure, hell yeah, the whole event.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
Shout out to Lowell.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
Shout out to Lowell and Dilly, you gonna fight
somebody.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
I'm trying to end it.
Don't try to end it, you'restill talking about it.
You don't fight somebody white.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Nah, I'm smoking too much to be traded and that's
normally how I am too.
I'm a boss and CEO and shit,but I just was thinking, no man,
you know why?

Speaker 1 (34:52):
Because I was working out lately too.
I lost like 20 pounds.
So I was feeling myself.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
That's really what it was.
He was using muscles.
I'm like, oh yeah, I'm ready toget active.
That's really what it was.
Whatever you work out, you belike I want to use this, I want
to use this.
I got to use this, bro.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
I can't wait to knock somebody out.
I got to use this, bro, I'mworking out.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
Somebody going to push me, thinking I ain't got
this, like no, we see it, youcool.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Yeah, man, I ain't going to lie.
I don't know they can line meup.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
You'll get out there.
Yeah, you feel like you reallywould, though.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
Like if it was a fight in three months from now,
and they called you.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Three months too far.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
No, I'm just saying three months from now.
You got to have some time.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
I need 30 days.
It ain't going to be.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
All right if they call you in 30 days.
Right now you really gettingout there though.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
Yeah, you know you ain't picking who you want to
fight or young, they ain'tasking you, it's just.
Whatever they lying, whateverthey put in front of me, you
want some like that, yeah, justput the in front of me.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
I like that.
I like that.
I'm gonna hop on, I'm I'm pausebut that's what's up.
I'm gonna hop on business brothat's what's up, bro that's
what's up, dog that's for thesport, though, like because, and
it's for yourself too, right?
Yeah, well, I mean I'm, I likeRob Markman, the Boss, and his
wife and his wife and his wifeand his wife and his wife and
his wife and his wife and hiswife and his wife and his wife
and his wife and his wife andhis wife and his wife and his

(36:12):
wife and his wife and his wifeand his wife and his wife and
his wife and his wife, and hiswife and his wife and his wife
and his wife and his wife andhis wife and his wife.
I'm going to walk into thispodcast if somebody put me to
sleep.
The next time I'm going to walkin, I mean.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
And.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
I'm going to still be me, but y'all going to be me.
We're going to be there, but inthe back of y'all mind y'all
going to be like can we haveseen that shit too?

Speaker 2 (36:30):
It ain't going to be in the back of our mind.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
We're going to be saying it Niggas been missing,
right?
Well, a knockout, right yeah,you got to get it together.
You got rebrand, we got rebrand, we don't fuck the whole brand
up.
The way.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
White Boy went out like Mike Life Rex John, I'm
rebranding like my man Marleyman.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
No, I told my niggas.
I said, if I get in, the saideverybody rushing.
I said we going to end it likethat.
I said we going to do it likeFloyd and Zedd.
I said don't let me go up Ifwhoever they got me rumbling if
it look like I'm going down orsomething, shit like that.
I said rush them yo.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Real right, that'd be crazy.
Fuck that biting people, theycrazy.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
Gilly kicked the whole, everybody out, get the
fuck out For nothing.
For nothing.
Kill his fist or some Phillyshit.
Get the fuck out.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
He said all I do for the city.
I'm tripping All we do for thecity.
Yo, I'm tripping.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
Y'all don't act like this.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
We out, we out, we out, get the out, get out.
He act like that was his crib.
He hit the Martin John.
That nigga was pissed.
You pay rent, ew, he went crazy, get the fuck out.
And they got on live the nextday like y'all Delaware cop,
y'all some nut ass niggas.
Yeah, I kicked the wholestadium out, wasn't even a fault
.
Yo molly hit main man with thepillow was so hilarious man.

(38:18):
That whole event, like thewhole face off, the gearing up,
the people, the people that camelike what they've Only saved in
here by his law.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
Since he went home his wife, his kids, he gotta win
that night for sure, just byReal he made.
He made jokes out of it.
That's.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
That's the fun, that's that's the how you stand
in front of it.
That's how you stand in frontof it and that's the fun.
That's how you stand in frontof it.
That's how you stand in frontof it.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
And that's why I be like man it's entertainment, it
is entertainment.
It ain't no lose when you knowhow to.
I'm not a boxer bro.
I go out there and we do someboxing.
You know what I mean?
I'm not saying get knocked out,but if you take, get knocked
out Rob Markman Jr, it's afortune fight.
It is what it is, bro, robMarkman Jr.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
Like one punch Like I don't think one punch should
have lost but he lost.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
You know what I'm saying, but you know what I mean
.
Did he really lose this fightor did they just say he lost Rob
Markman Jr who one punch?

Speaker 2 (39:20):
No, I'm saying like other boy.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
Punch.
My man too, though.
Yeah, no one punch, really.
What do you think about theknockout of the night?

Speaker 2 (39:27):
I ain't going to lie.
Young boy no, young boy shockedme.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
Uh-oh, the young boy.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Young boy Rex.
Oh Rex, bike Life Rex.
He got the best knockout he putyoung boy a washer.
You ain't see that.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
John, I seen a couple knockouts.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
I don't know which one is Mike.
Yeah, Mike, Mike, Mike.
What a remote.
Well, he got the gold I reallywanted to show you.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
Skinny young boy Gilly.
I told you, yeah, I do he puthim in the bed.
I think that was the firstknockout maybe yeah, no, that
thing, yeah a couple guys thatain't really too known.
They went out there fighting.
They held it down man.

(40:09):
So think about these Eagles,man.
How y'all think we going?

Speaker 2 (40:12):
Man, it look like they ready Go for it all.
That's what it look like.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
How y'all felt about Saquon man they are going for it
all.
How y'all felt about them notplaying Saquon?

Speaker 2 (40:23):
What they.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
I think it was well needed.
He need that.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
I mean, I look at it like that, you know they got the
ball I mean they in theplayoffs already?
The game ain't really what.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
So yeah.
So how I looked at it, I wantedthem to break the record.
I ain't gonna lie my man Bundus, he told me some real shit I
forgot.
Yeah, he told me some real shitthat I had what?

Speaker 2 (40:47):
did Bundus say no, I'm talking about, for the
record, not just wrestling.
Yeah, I know what you'retalking about.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
But Bundus said some real shit to me and I was like,
all right, I get it.
He was like if, in order toplay Saquon to break the record,
you know what I'm saying, right?
So then it's like it's too muchrisk now.
Now, the whole offensive linegot, now everybody got to play
for you, the whole offensiveline, for Saquon to break the

(41:10):
record, they got to play.
It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
You know what I'm saying Sacrificing.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
So it's like we can't just play Saquon and not play
the whole offensive line.
So it's like you know what?
Let's just sit everybody.
I don't even understood, Idon't even, I wouldn't even
thought about it from thataspect, I never did think about.
That made me say you know what?
We can't have a whole offensiveline out there and there, but
we got wrestling and that's toomuch to look for a bigger thing.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
You know championship , that's too much to risk Now.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
Bundles on point.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
For sure.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
They say that's the best Eagles team.
What y'all think about that?
I agree because, uh, saquon afucking.
They say that's the best Eaglesteam.
What y'all think about that?
I agree Because Saquon afucking dog, he ain't no joke.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
He a game changer, best Eagles team we ever had.
You better than Deuce Daly.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
I mean, I can't say the best until we win the Super
Bowl, but on paper probably, westacked.
Yeah, we stacked on paper.
Yeah, I see your grandma.
She had the shirt on about LA,but, man, I love her so much man

(42:25):
man, my grandma about to be 88on the 17th.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
Shout out to grandma man.
Shout out to grandma man.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
Still moving around doing her.
Thing.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
That's right.
You know what I'm saying,that's right.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
Spirits is up.
It's a beautiful woman, man.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
That's a beautiful thing.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
That's a beautiful thing.
That's a beautiful thing, man.
She raised some good men, notme, and I made she washed it
through, so that's even better.
So, all right, talk to me forthis.
Your mom and Willie.
Yeah, my mom is the oldest, robMarkman.
Right, my mom is Big Willie ismy mom.
My mom used to beat up peoplefor Big Willie and drag him to
school and all that shit.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
Rob Markman, this book be trying and everything.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
So, yeah, rob Markman.
Yeah, mom, mm-hmm, rob Markman.
Yeah, that's crazy, I'm theoldest grandkid my mom had me.
It's me Trey.
Don't let me fuck up the order,please.
I know it's me, and then Trey,you know what I'm saying I think

(43:33):
Sidney, and then Dion or Jay,and maybe that's my bloodline.
That's my real folks, my realfamily.
I love them to death.
I'm thankful, I'm grateful, I'mhappy and everybody just
working hard.
Shout out Willow.
Matter of fact, she nominatedfor.
Yeah, she dope.

(43:54):
All right, you know what I'msaying.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
And it's crazy because JN, he was born into
icon.
He was born an icon J like aborn icon like jay is just like
different, he's super differentand he and he got style, he dope
, he could rap.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
Now I mean, this is real yeah he a dope individual
bro.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
Yeah, he right here.
Real good creative.
That's what I noticed.
Like I'm saying, you got afamily full of creatives yeah
and uh, that lets you becreative.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
That's the thing.
Like my uncle, don't force usto be yeah in that box, no more
you know what I'm saying,because my uncle it went through
a phase where the success thathe had, he only knew how to run
a type of success from the waythat he did it, but it's a whole

(44:42):
nother world out here right nowand everything like it's not
this.
You don't.
You don't got to do the same.
That big willie had to do.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
I'm about to say but can you, can't.
But can you imagine the tribesand tribulations had to go
through to to be where he at?

Speaker 1 (45:00):
yeah, because he's the most.
You got to be the mostdisciplined person in the world.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
Militant too.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
You got to be militant.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
You got to you know, really lock up.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
I like looked into his story and like he had it all
at once and then lost it alland then went and got it to the
max.
And went and got it.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
Overly.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
And shout out to the people in the city that helped
him.
You know some real, you knowsome good men.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
Yeah, some very great men Held him down, held him
down at hard times and he turnedup and he turned it over.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
You know, and everybody needs somebody in
their corners.
So shout out to everybody thatgot somebody in their corner.
Or shout out to you if you thenigga that's holding somebody
down that deserves that, canreally take it to the next level
, because that's what it's about.
We all trying to push somebodyto get to the big, really level
and past it.
We trying to get past that shit.
So, yeah, man, and becausethere's people out here that see

(45:57):
these kids doing good andthey'll put that block on them.
You know what I'm saying, youknow what I'm talking about?
Uh-huh, so it's good that yousaying what you saying, because
some people just need that extrato get up out of here, man, for
sure they don't need nobodyattaching they self to them and
taking all they you know what Imean?

Speaker 2 (46:17):
whatever they got going on.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
Sometimes they just need the support, man.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
You know, got going on.
Sometimes they just need thesupport, man, and then even
support just telling the nigga,you that nigga, just telling the
woman she beautiful, andcertain things that go a long
way.
Just the words that you speakinto people, that shit can go a
long way for people.
Man, I got somebody like WillSmith that's in my corner.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
I just send a text.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
Whenever I send a text, it don't matter where I'm
at, what I got going on.
When I see my phone light upand it's his name, it just give
me a whole nother source ofenergy.
He could be doing anything inthe world he getting right with
me.
That just motivate me.
It let me know.
Like yo, you know you could beon some shit.
You got access to some of thehighest caliber people and the

(47:03):
highest, and what is the what's?
Going on.
So you know, stay focused, staymotivated, stay, stay on track
yeah you got good opportunityyeah, because, because
ultimately it's just.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
It's just, he just put in hard work.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
Nah, man hard work, he put out, he put in hard work,
you know, put your put themprayers up and put in that work,
yeah and uh.
One thing I learned is thatevery day you wake up, hard work
, you know, put your put themprayers up and put in that work,
yeah and uh.
One thing I learned is thatevery day you wake up and if you
just put in the work, thebetter yourself, no matter what,
every single day, if you justdo the things that you can
control, yeah, even y'all justwaking up and just coming here

(47:37):
every day right, something thatyou can control getting your
health together.
Certain things every day isjust going to put you on the
right path and the flow of theuniverse.
So I want to preach thatbecause a lot of people don't
know.
A lot of people don't know thatkids nowadays, they might wake
up and feel hopeless, they inthe trenches, they don't got no

(47:58):
money or no nothing.
There's certain things that youcan wake up and do to get your
energy flowing a certain way, nomatter what.
To get your energy and your vibe, a certain way, even what you
put in your body, what you eat,waking up in the morning, early

(48:20):
in the morning, working outhonestly, people don't know, but
that's a little secret, thatyou know, the highest successful
people they know waking up inthe morning and just working out
or even being on that path youcould just wake up, walk to the
treadmill.
You could just wake up, walk tothe door of the gym and then

(48:40):
turn around and leave.
You understand, it's just aboutbeing on that mission.
You could put your foot on thetrack.
You can just wake up, walk tothe door of the gym and then
turn around and leave.
You understand, it's just aboutbeing on that mission.
You can put your foot on thetreadmill, wake up, get out of
bed, do everything and just getinto the gym and putting your
foot on the treadmill and thenleaving.
That's the step, though.
You understand what I'm saying.
So there's certain things thatyou can do to get yourself in
the right energy and the rightflow of the universe.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
I think, right, energy and the right flow of the
universe.
Yeah, I think it's importantthat people know those things.
No, no, it really is, becauseyou never know the space they in
, or you never know the spacethey could be going in, like,
and those little things rightthere.
Hey, you like align withyourself to the point that, like
, see, like, like, like me,right now, I don't care what it
is if it ain't my family, it'snot blocking me from executing
all this.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
What I got going on, it's just, it's just not and I
feel like, as us, like peoplewho doing this, it's our dude.
We can't just hold these jewelsyeah, we can't just hold these
jewels that we got from theyoung boys.
We gotta like give them theinformation.
And one thing that I learned islike.
It's two things that I learned,uh, that I felt like stuck with

(49:47):
me through like my whole life.
One thing is is like themessage that you putting out to
the world and to the people.
So it's like me and you wecould do this podcast and you
could say yo, or the artist thatyou had yesterday, whoever it
is yeah because you know, comeon this podcast and say I'm on
this podcast because I'm thatnigga and that's why y'all
fucking with me.

(50:07):
Then I can come on this podcastand dedicate it to all of the
cancer, anybody who lost theirlife to cancer, and to all of
the people who lost theirchildren to gun violence.
And just because of thatmessage that I gave to the world
, I already connected more thanthe other person.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
No, for sure, just because of the message that I'm
delivering.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
We could go out and get the same performance on
American Idol.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
No, for real.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
We could sing the same way.
You might even sing a littlebit better than me.
But since I dedicated it toeverybody in the city of
Philadelphia who lost a child togun violence, they going to
root for me.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
They're the audience.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
They going to want me .
You know, that's one thing.
And then another thing I alsolearned is that your appearance
is a lot and when we walk intothem, offices with niggas,
that's successful.
They, looking at, the niggathat walk in, that's 300 pounds,
and the nigga that walk inthat's not the nigga.
That's 300 pounds.
They automatically looking athim like he's not a disciplined

(51:06):
person.
So I can't send him to go dosomething and guarantee that
he's going to not do anythinguntil he finishes what I send
him to do because he's notdisciplined.
No, go ahead.
What you was about to say.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
No, I'm about to say something.
Go ahead.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
It's crazy, that's something that I was taught and
I learned.
It's the facts when you seesomebody that's disciplined, not
eating food when your brain andyour body say it's hungry is
the hardest thing in the world.
You heard me, mm-hmm Right.
Not eating food when your braintell you you hungry is the
hardest thing in the world.
Right so anybody that can reallycontrol that.

(51:43):
You feel like they can controldiscipline on a whole, nother
level.
So your appearance when youwalk into these rooms, just know
people is on that level.
They is looking at us and theyis judging us just by our
appearance, just by um, you knowget.
I don't want to preach thisshit because I still got no bro
listen, I, I still eat good.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
Me too, me too.
But listen, it's crazy that yousay that.
No, listen, I'm listening.
No, listen, you say that, right, I'm watching what I send you.
Leave me on Sharkia and hellabad podcast yesterday.
I'm in the crib, I'm watchingthat, john.
I'm with the kids and theytalking about things and they

(52:24):
like what's your turn offs, Likewhat's your top three turn offs
?
And they was like I look fromdown going up, so your sneakers
got to be right.
Like if you got on some dicksneaks, like why would you wear
them outside?
Like that's what they saying.
And then Sharkea, like I ain'tgoing front.

(52:46):
She like bad breath, somethingelse.
You could be overweight, but inshape with it.
You got to be going to the gym.
It's a difference.
Exactly it's like if you notgoing to the gym.
If you not going, and she, likeyou, don't got to be a crazy
gym rat.
But if you not worried aboutyour health and not going to the
gym, if you're not going, andshe, like you, don't got to be a
crazy like gym rat.
But like, if you're not worriedabout your health and not going

(53:06):
to the gym and you're not liketrying to align yourself to get
your body together, like how youthink you getting anything else
together, like how you you knowwhat I mean Think you working
on anything.
How can I trust you?
I ain't never even like youknow what I mean.
Real shit.
They be thinking of that,though they be on men for that,
but businessmen too, no, that'sfirst.

(53:27):
Paper first you know the paperfirst.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
I do it for like meditate.
It give me like a meditatefeeling when I'm done.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
So that's how I feel Like every time after the gym.
It feel like I'm thinkingbetter.
You can wake up and go to thegym.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
I'm eating a little, I feel like I already, if you
wake up in the morning and go tothe gym, it's like I already
did for the day more than 70% ofthe city, 70% of the world.
Nah, real talk, shit like that,you know what.
I'm saying you can't hide fromthat gym Mm-hmm, yeah, like that
.
Rob Markman Jr.
He high from that jump yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
It's just mind, body, spirit.
Get it together, rob Markman Jr, get it together.
Man, you feel me Credit to RobMarkman Jr, it's 2025, man
Credit to Rob Markman Jr.
Yeah, get your credit together,y'all two Real shit man that
really matter a lot bro.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
Rob Markman Jr running around and the credit is
fucked up, and that's because,where we come from, we don't
know no better.
And you know it's like don'twait until it's too late, not
even too late, just don't waitto just do your research.
The more research you do,you'll understand why you gotta
start getting on top of all ofthe shit that you know we come

(54:38):
from we come from, where yourmama have a light bill of your
name when you six facts you knowman, I'm saying, yeah, so like
you know, but that don't, but itdon't gotta define you, no, no,
no, you gotta, you gotta do thedue diligence to have your,
your thing, your credentials, inorder, because you just never
know how to cookie crumble whenyou was, whatever age and
because of where you grew up.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
And now that you went a whole never like, because,
like how we grew up, that you ina whole nother life.
Because, like how we grew up,bro, we live a whole nother life
, right, we like.
I'm grateful, thankful I'm likebecause how we grew up, our kids
don't know nothing about howbro he, yo, he don't even dig it
, so so look I just boughtplaystation 5, probably like two
months ago, for him threemonths ago maybe tops like we

(55:23):
about to move in a new crib, sohe'd be.
He'd be taking it from themiddle room to the back room,
back room to the middle room.
He done broke the hdmi portinside the drone.
I had to pay another bean 30just to get it fixed.
It ain't even been four months,five months.
My mom would have been likeit's done, my daughter, you're
done.
My mom would have been likeit's done.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
You're done.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
My daughter losing $500 pocketbooks.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
That joint would have sat there and collected dust,
the controllers would have beenthere.
You feel me?
She lose $500 pocketbooks likeshe grown.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
She like no, we wouldn't have been, never, never
.
Your daughter, like never wewouldn't have been never Go find
that I'm thankful, bro, becausethe way we grew up is not like
how it is today.
That's what I'm saying, allright, so this is my question
for y'all.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
And they want different things than we want
Way different, real shit.
How y'all want that already.
I wanted these.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
These was 160 tops.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
My son talking about Balenciaga 1150 tops my brother
talking about jewelry andpocketbooks.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
And you going to hustle to get it together and
you gonna get it together.
You gonna hustle to get ittogether?
Nah, nah, nah, for sure.
So this is my question though.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
Yeah, come on man.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
Get what you want.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
So 2025, my question is is there anything not
necessarily like a resolution orsomething like that, but what
do y'all wanna enhance or changeor grow on in 2025?
How y'all feeling?
Is there anything that y'alldecided like yo, I'm going to
turn this up or I'm going tochange this and I can start for
myself?
So one thing about me is I gotsome things I want to work on,

(56:58):
but I'm going to go hard on themusic and I'm going to push
myself and I'm going to try toput it in people's face and make
them understand me and respectme a lot more, and I'm going to
just be a lot more consistentand I'm also going to be more
aware of how I make other peoplefeel and sometimes because you

(57:21):
know, we from Philly like ourface, just look a certain way.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
Sometimes we could be chilling and our face look a
certain way, no, for sure youknow what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
And then if we don't care about something, we really
don't care about it.
You know what I'm saying youwill see it.
Yeah, and you'll see it.
But that's something I want towork on also just being more
aware of other people, notnecessarily letting other
people's feelings control myfeelings, but I still want to go
out the you know the peoplethat I love.
I want to overly make sure theyknow that I love them.

(57:54):
I want them to feel it so youwant to be more like vulnerable
for them, I guess?
I guess in a way though.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
You know, that word cut us a little bit that word,
cut niggas that want to be athree, but that's what it is,
though.
That's exactly what it is.
No, it's just the wordvulnerable makes people feel
like it's a less though that'sexactly what it is.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
That's exactly what it is it just feels that word,
it got a connotation to it thatmake people feel like it's Like
what.
I ain't vulnerable nigga,Exactly.
You know what?

Speaker 2 (58:26):
I'm saying I ain't what you talking about, I ain't
nobody like that.
That's really what I want to do.
What do you mean vulnerable?
I want to go hard on the musictip, though, man.
I just want to say, bro havefun but always plan it out.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
But I got to do my part because music don't ain't
the reason why I'm surviving,music is just my therapy and so.
But that's good.
But to win in this musicbusiness and industry.
It is a formula and I do needto be more consistent in any
face, and that's why I justdropped Lonely Nights September

(59:09):
9th for my birthday.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
Rob Markman.
Yes, sir Lil.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
Jon, I just dropped Welcome Back Geetho.
In the next week or two weeks,rob Markman, fire Lil Jon, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
That's four months later and I'm gonna attack.
Yeah, so for me it would belike.
It would be like, since I justI want to keep studying the
greats and like do my duediligence on like broadcasting.
Now, now that we like fully intothis and you know this is, you

(59:37):
know, career based things thatwe've been talking about lately
I just want to do my duediligence on the work.
I want to get better.
I want to stop cursing, youwant to.
I just want to be a betterparent, a better husband.
I mean a better Muslim a betterfriend.
Yeah, I'm saying I'm just justtrying to be better and flourish
and all my verticals is like Ithink that.

(01:00:01):
I think that like we are, likeI'm like me personally, like I'm
family, like I'm being, I'mgetting to be that person I
wanted to be all my life and Iwant you to have all that, so
now that like is like an actualreal thing I'm just capitalizing
on All the time.
that's why I curaterelationships like the one man

(01:00:23):
you had.
You feel me and I don't playabout it, because I really think
that we could push the cultureforward.
It means a lot to me to even doit.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
Yeah, and we is.
I'm hearing like you know youguys stopped.
You know a couple rappers youknow in the city, you know going
at it Like what?
you going at like speak on thatWell, I mean, oh, recently, for
what I can speak on withoutsaying names and putting it, you
know too much on blast.

(01:00:51):
It's somebody that I'maffiliated with, that I deal
with, and it's somebody thaty'all affiliated with and y'all
work with and y'all deal with,and it just seemed like they was
having some back and forthanimosity and about nothing for
real for real and it could beabout something, but it ain't

(01:01:11):
nothing that's really worth.
Uh, where it could go right, andsince it ain't, it's like yo,
let's get some money, let's be,focused.
Let's all help each other getfurther, because around the
world, y'all might go through itin a city around the world.
They don't even know about it.
It's not.
It don't have no impact itdon't have no effect.
It don't make no sense it'sjust senseless.

(01:01:33):
So it's just like yo.
But for me I'm glad that we wasable to step in and really like
know, at least give some goodinput.
But for me man.
I really want to salute them,niggas, for listening to what we
got to say.
Because that don't happen andthey need to be, they need to be

(01:01:53):
acknowledged because, thattakes some real strong man shit,
because nowadays trying tosquash a beef or a war is not
even real.

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
That'll put you in the beef.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
That'll put you in it you know what I'm saying that
stopped, like us, from evenwanting to make them calls, but
we still made them calls andthey they uh understood it and
seen a bigger vision, and that'swhy they both gonna be
successful.
No for sure.
You know what I'm saying,because they see the bigger
picture, and that's what it'sabout man salute to both of
y'all man, and, and, and, forsure you know, run that Salute

(01:02:22):
to both of y'all man, and, and,and, for sure you know, run that
shit up and keep doing y'allthing, man, and let's get it.
And I'm here to help in any waythat I can for on both sides.
And yeah, let's get it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
Yeah, so basically everything everything you just
said, I agree, and it's like wekind of like need more of that.
If we have more of that, thenwe have a little bit probably
more successes going on out ofPhilly.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
I'm trying to tell I understand, I tell people, man,
the whole city got tightened up.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
If we cut out the hate, and we start supporting
one another, then who can stopus?

Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
Right, real shit.
They don't want to see that.
That's why we got Sean yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
We on it.
We on it, y'all, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
Little do people be knowing, like a lot of the
people that y'all want to getaround, like y'all can't even do
the stuff y'all doing becausey'all going to wind up in the
same room anyway, all right, solook let's talk about it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
One thing I was saying is that I wanted to do a
Christmas toy drive with reallythe most podcast.
That was something I wanted todo and we're going to get it
done.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
We're going to no, we're definitely going to do
that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
But also in that situation, even if it ain't
Christmas, we're going to doseveral events actually.
But that was another thing too.
It's like yo, we got shit thatwe're trying to do.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
It's a bigger picture , for everybody man and niggas
are going to have to be in theserooms together.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
Yeah, let's, let's, let's, you know, let's get it
together.
We got a bigger picture.
We want to.
If it ain't this is how yousupposed to do it, man, what's
your goals?
If what you got going on don'tgo towards the goals, it ain't
it ain't necessary, right, it'sextra.

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
Yeah, so be clear what your goals is.
Yeah, yeah, I agree, you cancut your goals short.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
Oh yeah, you know what I'm saying Cut your life
short, cut your life short.
You could cut, yeah, you could.
You could just make a wholesituation that you had going up
going down situation Aboutnothing, though.
About nothing and that thatthat's this like a blanket
statement for the whole city.
Like, really choose what youwant to do, man For real.

(01:04:26):
And just know that there's moreopportunity out there because
there's a lot of people thatdon't mind going to war with
niggas and going through shitbecause they feel like they
ain't got no motion, ain't shitgoing on anyway.
But I'm here to tell you thatyou can wake up and there's
certain things that you can doas an individual, by yourself,

(01:04:46):
that can change your life andthe trajectory of where you're
going in life.
And you just gotta do them andsee if it works for you.
And I don't know all of them,but I just know a few things,
because the things that we'retalking about you ain't working
out just to get in shape.
It ain't about the muscle, it'sabout, up here, what it take to

(01:05:08):
get there.
It's about the discipline andwho you got to become.
You got to become a differentperson in order to get the body
that you want and certain.
And on that journey to becomingthat, that's when you discover
the jewels our our people think.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
Our people think that type of stuff is uncomfortable
for them, so they hide from it.
But uncomfortable is good, it'sonly growth.
Rob Markman Jr.
Hell yeah, Rob Markman Jr, youknow what I mean.
We all need growth.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
Rob Markman Jr.
I just moved to Miami.
For two years.
I literally got up, left LA andmoved to Miami in one day, just
got up and left.
I ain't had nowhere to go, no,nothing.
I just got up and figured itout because I wanted to be
uncomfortable, because one thingabout me is I knew I wasn't
going to die so I knew that, nomatter what came out of that
situation, I was going to learnand I was going to grow, and
that's what I was looking foryeah today I read something a

(01:05:57):
guy like um, like damn, fiveminutes changed my whole life,
like 23 years of my life, prettymuch.
He took five minutes to make asplit decision of doing
something crazy.
Like to where, as though he waslike he got mad.
After getting mad, the fightstarted.

(01:06:18):
After the fight he grabbed histool.
After grabbing his tool, hehandled business.
After that he went off for 23years to jail, missed out 20
years of his son life, missedout 20 years of his daughter
life.
He come home to his son kids,his daughter already well off

(01:06:39):
and married.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
Stuff like that going on, missed a whole life.

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
You missed a whole situation off a split.
Real shit Mistake.
So I think we just all need totake some time and think about
the opportunities that we haveat hand as artists, creators,

(01:07:03):
and start trying to put thingstogether and collab and focus on
that.
You know what I'm saying, right?
Hey, man, it's the realest ofmost podcasts.
We're going to throw thesethings together.
K Smith already spoke on it, soit's here.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
We're doing it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
And I'm here too.
I'm a man of my word, bro.
I'm here to support the guys,because y'all support me and
y'all rock with me.
I'm here whenever y'all hit meand whenever I'm in the city,
I'm going to slide through.
And when y'all get to LA, we'regoing to have a good time.
I'm going to show we're gonnahave a good time.

(01:07:45):
I'm gonna show y'all a goodtime, whatever y'all need, it's
gonna be right there and y'allgonna see, y'all actually gonna
see.
I can't wait.
Yeah, man, I really can't wait.

Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
My guy man, it's like , look because, because, because
, man, it's just, it's just likethis, like we're part of
pushing the culture for it, like, like we a part of pushing the
narrative for it.
We don't even have time to play, obviously, everybody can see
that, like, you know what I mean, our time is valuable.

(01:08:12):
Yes, sir, you know what I mean.
So we don't have time to play.
They see, everything that we apart of everything that we got
going on.

Speaker 1 (01:08:19):
You know what I want to ask you, though it's tight
Everything that we got going onis tight-knit.
Who your top five?
Right now, though?
Rappers?
Right now, Like in the game inthe city, not the city.
Not the city.
Yeah, the game.
All right, you got a city topfive rappers, though you could
do that afterwards.
I don't even know if I got that, but I'm going to see, let's

(01:08:40):
see.
But in the game yeah, yeah, I'mgonna keep it real, bro.
I want to know what you listento, what I listen, to see what I
listen to wait, wait, wait,that's not the top five wait all
right, yeah, do your top fivemy phone.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
Do your top five my top five is jay-z.

Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
All right, drake, uh-huh.
That's when it just get crazyfor me, right there.
After that, for me personallybecause I could put anybody in
that category I mean you on agood track, jay Z Drake, I would
say top 5 alright, now let meask a quick question, though is

(01:09:19):
my top 5 is yours, but what iswe talking about?
Does we talk?

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
It don't matter.
All dead or alive, like allyou're talking about right now.
Okay, I'm gonna go, jay Z, I'mgonna go with Jay.

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
Z, I'm gonna go with Drake, I'm gonna go with Tupac,
I'm gonna go with 50.
Jay Z, drake, tupac, 50.
50, though, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
Tupac 50.
50 though.

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
Yeah, I'm going to go 50 because the impact when 50
came out for me Yo, you wilding.
Go ahead though.

Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
I love 50, though I ain't talking about rap lyrics.

Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
I'm talking about what?

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
he did.

Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
I'm with you.
I'm talking about him as aperson I want to hear your five
next.
And I don't want to disrespectBig, but it just wasn't.
You know it wasn't.
I understand what Big was, soI'm not disrespecting him at all
.
I'm just saying what.
Mine was 50.
What did you say about Big?
I said that he not on your list, that's it.

(01:10:16):
I ain't really say he wasn'teven on my list, though.
I just said they ain't picking.
I ain't really say he wasn'teven on my list, though I just
said they ain't picking.
I I I ain't really saying Ididn't really say what he took
away.

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
He wasn't on your list.
I'm like I ain't trying todisrespect big though.
There ain't no disrespect.

Speaker 1 (01:10:30):
But big is the best lyricist to me like so.

Speaker 2 (01:10:33):
So when I'm saying my top, five.

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
I'm not now.
Let's also be clear my top five.
When I'm saying my top five andbecause because we had a a
question the last time, we wason a podcast and y'all asked me
who I would eliminate.
So when I'm saying my we ain'tdone.
This just a preview.

Speaker 2 (01:10:47):
So when I'm saying my top five, it's not lyrics, it's
not lyricists.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
It's for me my top five the impact they had in my
life at the time and things likethat.
So I'm going with Hoov.
I'm going with Drake, I'm goingwith Pac, I'm going with 50.
I hate my man, but I'm going to.
Yeah, I mean y'all going to, Iknow y'all, and I'm going to say

(01:11:13):
Meek, that's for me, so y'alleat it up, do what y'all want to
do.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
I think Cuz, I think Cuz.
What's your top five?

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
white boy Beans O.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
Jeezy, meek Mill and Future Okay.
See, that's the thing, thatlist was good, because they who
I really really listen to Likeif we go on my list.

Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
So what?
My list was ass, or somethingLike what the listen to like if
we go on my Y'all trippin likewhat y'all know about 50 down.
No, it must be something that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
I know, it's just kind of watered I bet now let me
do my little corny so y'alldon't remember this my list,
this my list.
First, I don't remember.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
G-Unit when they came up.

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
Look Beanie Seagull, he just got money.

Speaker 1 (01:12:06):
Jadakiss Hov, they're corny as shit.

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
But y'all know some of the lyrics, lil.

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
Wayne.
Oh yo, Jim Jones said he can't.

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
I probably got to put Wayne in there somewhere.
He said they can't even dress.

Speaker 1 (01:12:20):
He said the niggas got my dick in they mouth right
now, man.
He said man, they got to cutthat shit off, man.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
He said they got to cut that shit off man.
He said there's only enoughspace for baby girl Yo I ain't
on my thang.
He said there ain't no thang,I'm not going to lie, thang
Jones is wild there's onlyenough space, for I set the
whole aesthetics up.

Speaker 1 (01:12:40):
That was me.
That was me.
I set the whole aesthetics.
Rob Markman.
I believe him and look, I'm anigga like that, though, because
I believe him and I feel himand he need to say it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
Rob Markman, he need to say it.
He need to say it, Rob Markman,he need to say it though.

Speaker 1 (01:12:59):
Rob Markman, yo Jimmy , my man, them old ass stories
out man.

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
I don't care, man.
You said I had the hottestsongs.
Like, if y'all don't let allthem old stories out, them old
rock and roll the rough rockstories.
Fuck you mean.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
He said he called me out for the show.
He said he called me out forthe show.

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
I went for the show Ballin'.
Fuck you mean he Right?
Oh shit, Damn, he slept likethat.

Speaker 1 (01:13:18):
I finished watching it.
He went in on him like thatyeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:22):
Jimmy, I'm feeling, though I'm feeling, I'm really
feeling what's my list, thoughman you said Beans.
You said Kiss, you said Kiss,kiss.
Lil Wayne Wayne.

Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
Wayne, you got one more.
That's great.
That's a great.
I got to name somebody now, butdamn, I want to name somebody
now.
But Jeezy got to go on my list,bro, like he was like a
soundtrack for 10 years of mylife.

Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
So look what's crazy is like growing up.
Ti was one of like at the beansTI too.
No, listen at the beans.
Ti was my favorite rappergrowing up, like yo, like I just
got to say, like man Jeezy,music aged so well bro, well
yeah.
It's like Wine.
I'll be like In a cellar.
Yo, I'll be really listening toJeezy now like the old Jeezy.

(01:14:11):
I'll be like man.
This boy is just like man, hewas a genius.

Speaker 1 (01:14:16):
Bro.
Let's play these games realquick though, let's get to these
games.
How long do we got before thegames?
Can I go into the bathroom?

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:14:25):
The game's going.

Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
We're going to take two minutes playing these games
real quick man.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Go ahead.
We got fully two minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
We got Guido in the building.

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
y'all Don't walk off, like Rose left the drawing man.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
I'll be right back.
I'll be right back, rose, I'llbe right back, I'll be right
back.

Speaker 1 (01:14:44):
Never showed up.
Never showed up, never cameback.

Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
Say yeah, no, I'll be right back.

Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
Right back.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
Never came back.
Bro, gotta go.
I had to.
Just they said he left.
You see, dc Young fly and I'mlike he just walked out the, he
just walked out the door, heleft.
That's a different kind ofinterview.
Damn, it was that nigga reallyleft the interview.

Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
That was epic, that's a different kind of vibe.

Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
Yeah, like damn, you just up and leave the interview
with me.
The interview was crazy.
No, that wasn't even a maninterview, they just was ready
to start and he just bipped outof there.
He must have felt some type ofenergy or something.
He said, if play came through,he said you know how if play
come through?

Speaker 1 (01:15:32):
you'd be so excited.
You just got to leave.
He said I left.
Like a hundred grand camethrough on the phone I'm out.
200,000 came through I'm out.
I'm sitting here potting Onesecond Right here.

Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
Ross do what he want.
He don't play.

Speaker 1 (01:15:58):
Over here.
All right, we about to continue.
Y'all ready?
I don't play Over here.
All right, we about to continue, All right.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
All right, let's before we yo.

Speaker 1 (01:16:09):
All right, so this is the Real of the Most podcast.
We about to go ahead and startthese games.
Make sure you share, like,subscribe comment If you don't
Use a muff Hater, we got K Smithin the building Dicto.
You already know.

(01:16:30):
But Yo, we doing fast track andone guy go.
You already know, you alreadyknow, what it is.
You already know what it is, Igot one up my sleeve, you
already know what it is, this isfor whenever.
But go ahead, you do you, I'mgonna go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:16:43):
So it's got one of the most podcasts and you know
we gotta get this out the waybefore we get my boy out of here
and we gotta put so fast track.
All right, it ain't not toocrazy, you just pick one or the
other one and because we inphilly you got, you know we
gotta start with this one.
So is state property a majorfigures.

Speaker 1 (01:17:04):
State property a major figures State property OK.

Speaker 2 (01:17:08):
Reed Dollaz or Joey Jahad.

Speaker 1 (01:17:16):
I'm going to say Reed Dollaz.

Speaker 2 (01:17:17):
Core or Tor or tour I'm going to say tour Speaker 2.

Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
Scrooge D4M Sloan or Rico Havoc Sloan, but Sloan Rico
, I don't know man, that's crazy.
Sloan from the West Side, so Ialways want to rock with and he
right there from where I'm from.
But I got more of arelationship with Rico.

(01:18:03):
Okay, YG and Nick.
I can't even do that.
Let's take a shot.
Damn Damn, Can't even do thatone.

Speaker 2 (01:18:13):
Damn, damn.

Speaker 1 (01:18:15):
No, I can't do that one.
Is we taking shots?

Speaker 2 (01:18:18):
How you?

Speaker 1 (01:18:18):
do it.
I can't do that one.

Speaker 2 (01:18:22):
Go ahead.
That's cool, yg.

Speaker 1 (01:18:24):
That I can't do that one.
That's cool, all right, come on, because I really couldn't even
do that one.
Like you understand, I reallycouldn't even like, I don't even
know, like.

Speaker 2 (01:18:35):
Hey man.

Speaker 1 (01:18:36):
They both too sturdy.

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
Yeah, on they level.
Yeah, you couldn't even I getit.

Speaker 1 (01:18:41):
You can't even like, I really can't even do it.
All right, timbaland ofPharrell, and that's crazy.
All right, so I'm an artist, sowhat would I go with?
It depends on what bag I'm in.
I probably say for real.

Speaker 2 (01:19:02):
Jeremiah, Mario, Jeremiah um uh.
Jay-z and naz hoof um when youknow kendrick wayne all day you
said wayne or kendrick easilybut you know people love
kendrick right, yeah um.

Speaker 1 (01:19:23):
Okay, gz or ross, no um we can, we can go.

Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
uh, gucosie.
Oh, alright, gucci.

Speaker 1 (01:19:32):
I'm going to go with Gucci personally.
Yo Gotti or Jeezy.
I'm going to go with Yo GottiLil Baby or Dyrt, but can I get
my explanation?
For Gotti Go ahead Because Ilike the boss aspect of it and
the label and everything elsethat come with it, not just the
reps.

(01:19:52):
You mean, like you can see it,you can actually see it with
your eyes that he's doing whathe's saying, and rapping about
it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:59):
He got 10 niggas signed to him.
No, he got 10 other artistssigned to him.
Yeah, he's showing his bossthat.

Speaker 1 (01:20:03):
Yeah, that's a fact we done seen him giving niggas a
million dollars to sound to meI've seen him put six artists on
that but that's a good milliondollars.
No, for sure, yeah yeah, I likethat all right little baby at
dirt I'm gonna go with smirkfree.
Smirk man, that's my manwhere's khalifa wale?
I'm gonna go with.

(01:20:24):
Where's khalifa?
Pnb, rock q, swirl pnb rocklebron mellow pnb rock q swirl.
Pnb rock lebron.
Mellow right now, lebron, butcoming out when they was rookies
it was mellow, probably for myfirst year or two, when I mean
the first year or two cominginto the league.
It was mellow for me, right,but right now lebron can't do no
wrong for me, ai or mcnagg aiall day or McNabb, they are All

(01:20:49):
day All day.
They both Philly, though theyare All day.

Speaker 2 (01:20:53):
Yeah, all day, all day.

Speaker 1 (01:20:55):
Let's do one, gotta go man.

Speaker 2 (01:20:56):
All right, one gotta go.
It's a little bit different.
We just gonna say four names,but one gotta go, and when we
say they gotta go, everythingthey hold as sisters just gotta
go, you're not crazy with thisone.
I don't like this game.

Speaker 1 (01:21:08):
I do not like this game.
I know you won't Go ahead doyour thing.
I feel like y'all got to seey'alls too.
I feel like y'all got to seey'alls too.
Look Hitmaker Meek Nipsey, YG.
One guy go.

(01:21:28):
You got to kick him out yourcrib.
Damn, I got to kick him out mycrib.
One guy go.
No personals, man, no personals.
One guy go Somebody got to moveout.

Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
So what's the scenario?
Is it a scenario, Is itbusiness?
Like what's going on?
Because Berg probably can bringmore bitches than all of them.
Break down one guy go to him,one to him one guy go every day
whole existence.

Speaker 1 (01:21:52):
Go they whole existence.
Yes, yeah, they never.
Whoever they sign with sign tosign existence, whatever they're
done.

Speaker 2 (01:21:56):
Never, never was here creativity is gone.

Speaker 1 (01:21:58):
Bird gotta go.
He ain't part of our, uh, heain't.

Speaker 2 (01:22:01):
He ain't in the streets, damn all right, that's
my man, but he just ain't in thestreets all right, all right,
all right, all right, all right,here we go.
Joey Reed, nh.

Speaker 1 (01:22:18):
He couldn't wait to throw this out.

Speaker 2 (01:22:19):
Joey Jahad, one gotta go.

Speaker 1 (01:22:21):
One gotta go.
You said Reed Joey.

Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
Jahad NH, NH and who I just had right there.
You said two.

Speaker 1 (01:22:34):
Joey's.
I said two Joey's.
Was it Meek though that was inthere before.

Speaker 2 (01:22:36):
No, I don't want to put Cubs right there.
That's too easy, bro.
It's like no, no Vaca.

Speaker 1 (01:22:41):
I mean it's not.
I mean it depends who you'reputting on the list.
Yeah, meek wouldn't go.
Yeah, meek wouldn't go.
So it depends who you pin thelist to make it crazy.
That's why I just said Vodka,all right.
So look man.

Speaker 2 (01:22:54):
I know the city going to date me.
How many people?
You said Vodka?
He said four.

Speaker 1 (01:22:56):
He said Vodka, nh Reed and Joey Yep.
All right, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:22:59):
That's four people.
Dog's negative dog.
See the dog start barking onthis question and all type of
shit.

Speaker 1 (01:23:05):
Man don't know all of the uh.
I don't know all of the uhcatalogs, to tell you the truth,
right, right.
So I'm gonna base mine off ofwho catalog I know the least.
Okay, who would that be?
And that's nasty work.
Who gotta go?
Who gotta go?
I'm gonna keep it real.

(01:23:25):
Joy jihad might just got a role, then that's cool.
Okay, I don't know, I don'tknow.
Joey Jahad got rolled in.

Speaker 2 (01:23:32):
Okay, okay, who I said I'm going to pick who I
said.

Speaker 1 (01:23:37):
I said NH Joey Jahad Vodka, do the girl one yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:23:39):
And it would be Reed Dollaz for me.

Speaker 1 (01:23:43):
Do the girl one.

Speaker 2 (01:23:44):
Which one?
But why Reed Dollaz, though?
Why Reed, for you Wait I readfor you.

Speaker 1 (01:23:47):
Wait, I'm tired of him keep playing with.

Speaker 2 (01:23:49):
Bull yeah why?

Speaker 1 (01:23:50):
read Dollars for you Because I know Cash, but go
ahead.
Why read Dollars?
Cash is a headshot Bull, butwhy read Dollars for you?
So out of them, out of them.
Cash tried to get me to sayread too.
Last time I was here.

Speaker 2 (01:24:10):
All right.
So come to think about it, Ithink for me read would go,
because I think that come onlike regular raps and stuff like
that and do it for me.
His free styles is legendary,but all of them three kind of
like how you say anything islegendary.

Speaker 1 (01:24:25):
And then he got oh, he got a lot of free styles not
legendary.

Speaker 2 (01:24:28):
This is why we don't matter.
This is why we do it.
He got legendary freestyles,not legendary teeps, it don't
matter, though Is there anythinglegendary about it?
This is why Reed can't go.
Because I'm basing it off ofimpacting culture for the most
part, he impact more than all ofthem Strictly.
That's what I'm basing it offof.
That's why he can't go.
He got a bigger impact than allof them, for sure, and he
started before all of them Damnnear.

Speaker 1 (01:24:50):
He had the fame.
Before all of them he had thefame.
He was the one that wassupposed to that they had picked
to go at the time he got thedeal first.

Speaker 2 (01:24:57):
He had the first deal , for sure yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:25:00):
Yeah that's what I'm saying.
I feel like it ain't personal.
None of them.
I don't listen to none of theirmusic.
Rob Markman, they all rap eliteRob Markman.
Deal with none of thatpersonally, rob Markman.
They all rap, elite Rob Markman,and they all rap good right,
but you can't lie on the impactof what they did.
Reed Dollaz had every singlenigga in LA at the time wanting

(01:25:23):
to be from Philly rapping.
Besides Reed and Cassidy,nobody wanted to during that
time.
They was the only two niggasthat had everybody else wanting
to rap like them and wanting torap and be from Philly.
That was dope.
Me personally, who was back andforth between Philly and LA.
I didn't know anything of NHbesides when he was on Meek

(01:25:45):
Songs.
Personally, joey Jihad I justknew he had a buzz but I still
don't know none of the JoeyJihad shit.
Me personally.

Speaker 2 (01:25:56):
Vodka, I just know they freestyles.

Speaker 1 (01:25:59):
They got freestyles yeah, freestyles, yeah, but I
don't feel like out of everybodythe names.
If you look at the names, Ifeel like Reed Dollaz had the
biggest name.

Speaker 2 (01:26:11):
I think Joey Jihad had the biggest name.
I think Joey Jahad had thesecond biggest name yeah, vaca,
and then NH and Vaca.

Speaker 1 (01:26:16):
Yeah, I would still say NHbecause he made it to Meek
Mill's successful mixtape andhad one of the best songs on
there.

Speaker 2 (01:26:26):
Realest niggas, realest you ever seen.
Yeah, realest you ever seen.

Speaker 1 (01:26:29):
So, yeah, all right, all right.
Realest you ever seen.
Yeah, realest you ever seen.
Yeah, all right, all right.
So let me do one Cree ForgeHollow man, huh, e-nus, nh, nh.
Yeah, damn you a nut, thoughyou should let him go, me doing
another one, but he was going todo that.

(01:26:49):
He was gonna pick the sameperson.
No, he wasn't, because he likedyour niche.
I wasn't gonna pick the sameperson because I like him, hello
man that was the hardest onefor me.
Enos cree ford nh.
Oh, I don't have norelationship with uh, that's not
that easy.

Speaker 2 (01:27:07):
I don't have no relationship with Cree.

Speaker 1 (01:27:09):
Forge me personally Is he from West, though no, cree
Forge Dead and Ruppa he from.

Speaker 2 (01:27:14):
South Philly, south Philly, tasker.
Yeah, oh, oh oh.
Yeah, he one of them.

Speaker 1 (01:27:19):
Yeah, yeah, because he one of the guys, but for me
it's like he used to be underMatt Cannell.

Speaker 2 (01:27:25):
I I'm just talking about what I know, Rob Markman.
No, I'm talking about what youknow, though.

Speaker 1 (01:27:28):
Yeah, that's what it is for me, rob Markman, no, but
that could never.
What's your folks?
I don't know, rob Markman man,about what do you got music?

Speaker 2 (01:27:35):
I don't know Rob Markman man about.
I don't even know Rob Markman.
Yo listen though.
No, we not, cause I'm trying tosee what y'all making it about.
Because if we talking about whocan rap better or talking about
who can battle better, I thinkwe talking about my list I know

(01:27:56):
they catalog and everything.

Speaker 1 (01:27:57):
That's what's going on.

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
for me, what you do is right.
When you go home, you do myresearch and do my research.

Speaker 1 (01:28:03):
I seen the let.
I seen Cree force do a songwith O'Malley.

Speaker 2 (01:28:06):
Okay, yeah, so he do a video with O'Malley.
Ok, I seen him do a video withO'Malley.
He stepped on South Philly, Iknow, I know.

Speaker 1 (01:28:12):
That's like where he can wait, and I'm not trying to
disrespect nobody.

Speaker 2 (01:28:15):
No, no, no, no, no.
We do this.
He did this show, he did this.

Speaker 1 (01:28:20):
You know what's going on he knew what's going on.
I'm going to tell y Becausethis the thing Okay, a lot of
people.
Don't feel disrespected, though.
I won't feel disrespected atall Because my name being in it
is what needs to happen.
Yeah, yes, it do, because whenthey go home and they do their

(01:28:41):
research, right, how you tellingme that they going to have to
Right.
They might have a differentopinion the next time they come
sit down For next time they comesit down.
Rob Markman Jr.
For sure, that's my whole thing.
So yeah, add me to them listtoo, Rob Markman Jr.
I got you right here, that'scool, rob Markman Jr, I got you
right here.
O'melly K Smith, lil Snoop, I'mdoing all chases, so who else?
So who the last one, robMarkman Jr, because I can do

(01:29:05):
that.
Who the last one Monster?
Who the?

Speaker 2 (01:29:09):
fuck is that?
No, no, no.
I'm talking about an artist.
Hell, I said yeah, you got tosay an artist.

Speaker 1 (01:29:14):
You got to say an artist I don't want.
No, I don't want to do cuz.

Speaker 2 (01:29:19):
I'm going to say I'm going to do?

Speaker 1 (01:29:20):
Lee Mason, louis V.
Gutter, louis V.

Speaker 2 (01:29:22):
Gutter Jordann.

Speaker 1 (01:29:23):
Jordann.

Speaker 2 (01:29:25):
K.

Speaker 1 (01:29:25):
Smith.
Meek had a couple of CORE,whatever, you know what I'm
saying.
Other artists that signed tohim that you could have threw
out there.

Speaker 2 (01:29:33):
Who those for Me, o'melly Lil Snoop and who was
the fourth one, lee Mazin orJordyn, no it was Louis.
Vigotta, louis Vigotta.

Speaker 1 (01:29:44):
Louis V will go better.

Speaker 2 (01:29:45):
Yeah, it gotta be gutter for him.
It will have to be yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:29:48):
What gone, rob Markman.
Yeah, Snoop, rest in peace.
Snoop, that was really my man.

Speaker 2 (01:29:52):
I ain't wanna pick Snoop.
That's my young Rob Markman andthe reason why I want man rest
in fucking peace, Lil Snoop manman rest in peace.
Lil Snoop Rob Markman Shout outto his mom man.

Speaker 1 (01:30:03):
Fat Rob Markman.
You know, shout out to LilSnoop, movie going to come out
soon.
And yeah, rest in peace toSnoop man.
Snoop, people don't know.
Snoop actually lived with methe three months before he got
killed.

Speaker 2 (01:30:18):
He was living with me .

Speaker 1 (01:30:20):
See, look this small story.
Real quick.
Man Snoop came to Philly.
When he got here he wentstraight to the studio.
He went to the studio with Cubs.
But, the next day he wentstraight to the studio.
He went to the studio with Cubs, but the next day he was in a
hotel.
Right, and this is before thebattle, before he battled in

(01:30:41):
front of TI and all them Retro,the boy Retro, yeah, retro.
I flew here two days ago withJack too.
Deshaun Jackson, yeah.
Bro, I had a chance to chillwith Snoop and hear him rap
before he battled bro.

Speaker 2 (01:30:54):
Hot.

Speaker 1 (01:30:55):
Crazy Off the top.
Crazy, and I mean he was a coolkid, you know what I'm saying
With inspirations to make it.
Andek Mill was his inspirationlike to the highest form
motivation, to the point hecould freestyle these raps right

(01:31:16):
off top you feel me what youdoing mama.
So that was just crazy.
Man, I'm on this podcast wetalking about Snoop right now.
I just wanted to call you causethey showing him love.
I'm in Philly they showingSnoop.
So much love.
I'm saying one of the guys saidthat he got to chill with Snoop
in a hotel before he went onthat battle.
Yup, so I just was calling you.

Speaker 2 (01:31:38):
Legendary.
It's a big podcast in Philly,though.
You ain't on speakerphone rightnow, though, Legendary man.

Speaker 1 (01:31:44):
And the crazy part is man he really came up here on
some, but they bought Snoop.

Speaker 2 (01:31:52):
Not knowing he was going to connect with everybody.
He was the next question, likeone of the questions was who
would you give?
It was just so talented fordifferent.

Speaker 1 (01:32:00):
No, they called them and said come on up, but he
didn't know it was going to be,I'm with me.

Speaker 2 (01:32:05):
So when I get there, they asked, like you know, but
you know us and Philly, ourconnections is one call away If
I say you going to be with meyou going to be with me.
You know what I?

Speaker 1 (01:32:16):
mean, and then I just started talking in my bag with
Snoop.
So that's the difference aboutwhen you connect in Philadelphia
.
You know what I mean Everythingreally like a call away here.

Speaker 2 (01:32:25):
I'll call you when I leave here.

Speaker 1 (01:32:26):
If you really connect with the right people.
So yeah, I had time to reallythat was Snoop Mom right there
too.
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:32:33):
Shout out to Mama Snoop man.
That's really my dog, though.

Speaker 1 (01:32:39):
He was with Lean too.
Lean, one of the founders ofSnoop.
I'm trying to tell you he wasat the AP at Parkway.
That was his apartment.
I got time to chill with him.
He was where he used to stayoutside the art museum.
Who Snoop For real, yeah.
Right here where the art museumat Little Snoop used to stay in

(01:33:00):
the apartment buildings andshit.
That's what's up man.
Yeah, that's what's up man.

Speaker 2 (01:33:05):
When he passed away, we had the clothes that he
performed all them clothes andall that.

Speaker 1 (01:33:08):
We had.
The clothes that he performed.
All them clothes and all that.
We had all that.

Speaker 2 (01:33:11):
I had so much of Snoop's clothes.
See, I told you he's livingwith me.
I had so much of Snoop'sclothes man and the Donny's
clothes Snoop was like anotherlevel, though he was something.
The Jordans and all that Iliterally Snoop lived in my crib
.

Speaker 1 (01:33:23):
I literally would like, I felt like I had to
protect him, like he was a like.

Speaker 2 (01:33:27):
I had to protect him right.

Speaker 1 (01:33:30):
So look I literally went out and checked on Snoop
one night Like he's sleeping.
He was sleeping in my livingroom on the couch, like, and I
come out the room and I lookit's like lay this shit Snoop on
his knees praying.
Yeah, that's one thing.
Gleem said that boy pray, he bepraying.

Speaker 2 (01:33:49):
I said what he said, bro, before he go to bed, he get
on his knees and pray, bro.

Speaker 1 (01:33:55):
I only seen him that one time, but that alone was
enough for me Nah he did thatevery night, though.
Yeah, that alone was enough.

Speaker 2 (01:34:04):
That's hot, yeah, All right.
So look, Glowrilla, Sexy RedCardi B Lotto One got to go look
uh glorella.

Speaker 1 (01:34:17):
Sexy red cardi.
B lotto one gotta go gorilla.
Sexy red lotto cardi b cardi bcardi ain't going nowhere, so
that make the list even harder,uh uh, sexy, ain't going nowhere
oh man.
So now I got big glowing lottothey too.

(01:34:39):
I don't believe on my list theynot leaving they, they ain't
going nowhere or a lotto ain'tleaving.
Oh, this crazy, it's cardi forme.
How cardi leaving, though what?
What you mean?

Speaker 2 (01:34:49):
I mean for me, but how?

Speaker 1 (01:34:50):
though I don't even understand how.
How?
She the biggest one on the list, right?
I know that's why you got totake her off that list.
Oh, all right, she don't matchwith them three.
But if that's the case, likefor me, it was like Lado dealing
with Savage.
It was just like.
She already off the list right,oh, I see, I see what you're

(01:35:11):
saying, I get it.
I get what that If you look atit like that, then that's what I
was on.
Lotto is off the list for metoo, then yeah, so that's it for
me.

Speaker 2 (01:35:21):
You know what I'm saying, but her career and her
looks is up there.
Yes, it is yeah.
If we just was talking aboutcareer now how you broke it down
.

Speaker 1 (01:35:30):
if we just was talking about career and looks.
It might get changed, but youstill can't.
Cardi ain't going nowhere.
Nah, I mean, if you want to saycareer wise, cardi ain't going
nowhere, but she too major forme to be in that mix, right
there with them.
I think I don't know who elsecould fit right there.
I don't even think there's athird person that can go right

(01:35:51):
there.

Speaker 2 (01:35:51):
I don't even think there's a third person that can
go right there Is it I mean, Imean a fourth person.
Meg, Meg yeah but everybodycall.
Meg a rat when we say that.

Speaker 1 (01:36:01):
Meg and Nikki.
Nikki back out of here, nikkitoo gone.
If Cardi gone, nikki gone, lolawho Lola Brooke why?

Speaker 2 (01:36:09):
y'all putting Lola in that on Lil La.

Speaker 1 (01:36:11):
Lil La Lil La, lil La Lil La.

Speaker 2 (01:36:13):
Lil La Lil La Lil La Lil La Lil La Lil La Lil La Lil
La Lil La Lil La Lil La Lil LaLil La Lil La Lil La Lil La Lil
La Lil La Lil La Lil La.

Speaker 1 (01:36:27):
So yeah, ice Spice next time.
Okay, that was it.
See, I know that Cardi don't goright there, but yeah, alright
Ice Spice.

Speaker 2 (01:36:37):
Lil Baby, lil Dirt 21 .

Speaker 1 (01:36:42):
Savage Whoa.
I feel like y'all gotta startanswering these questions too,
though.
If y'all really wanna startanswering these questions too,
though, whoa, like if y'allreally want to turn it up,
because like what I did yeah no,y'all been answering them.
I'm just saying I feel likey'all probably just leave it on.

Speaker 2 (01:36:59):
Say one more.

Speaker 1 (01:37:00):
Say one more.

Speaker 2 (01:37:01):
Lil Baby, lil Dirt, 21 Savage.

Speaker 1 (01:37:05):
Young Thug, whoa.
He said Lil Baby, lil Dirt 21,savage 21.
Oh, she's a little baby 21.
Savage 21 Savage and.

Speaker 2 (01:37:15):
Young Thug.

Speaker 1 (01:37:16):
God damn, bro.
Um, and I'm thinking about thesongs baby, who bigger, Baby or
Savage?

Speaker 2 (01:37:34):
Savage, probably on paper.
Savage on paper.

Speaker 1 (01:37:40):
I'm going to go.
I think I got to go, Baby y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:37:43):
I think me too.

Speaker 1 (01:37:44):
Yeah, I'm like man, I'm thinking about the hits.

Speaker 2 (01:37:47):
Baby got, baby might got go, say their names again,
Lil Baby, Lil Dirk, 21 Savageand Young Thug.
That might be the hardest oney'all, I don't know, man I'm
going to keep it real because Ifeel like I could.
Dirk and Baby like this rightnow, you definitely can't get

(01:38:07):
rid of Smirk.

Speaker 1 (01:38:08):
You tripping.

Speaker 2 (01:38:08):
You can't get rid of Smirk.

Speaker 1 (01:38:09):
You trippin' Rob Markman, you can't get rid of
Smirk dog Rob Markman.
Smirk's one of them, robMarkman, and he's Chicago Wave.

Speaker 2 (01:38:12):
You can't get rid of that, rob Markman.

Speaker 1 (01:38:14):
We ain't even saying Lil.
Baby ain't one of them.

Speaker 2 (01:38:17):
Rob Markman, it's just his catalog.

Speaker 1 (01:38:23):
Rob.

Speaker 2 (01:38:23):
Markman.
I like both of they mix.
I like they mix tape Hot he getthe first album.

Speaker 1 (01:38:30):
Hot.

Speaker 2 (01:38:31):
The second album.
You see what I'm saying Now.

Speaker 1 (01:38:37):
How many rappers?
You know, like that, though,how many rappers, you know, like
that though Albums, just likethat.

Speaker 2 (01:38:44):
It be like that, it be like that, it be like that.

Speaker 1 (01:38:48):
Yeah, man, that's our one.
Gotta go, man.
You want to do the big one?
Pause, pause, man, that's ourone gotta go.

Speaker 2 (01:38:51):
man, you wanna do the big one?

Speaker 1 (01:38:53):
Pause, pause, pause.

Speaker 2 (01:38:55):
You wanna do the last one, slow down, all right.
Yeah, that was crazy.
That was crazy, that was crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:39:08):
That was crazy Slow down dog.

Speaker 2 (01:39:11):
Do this scene too, this Slow down dog.

Speaker 1 (01:39:12):
Do this to you too.
This off record too, Dog, slowdown, bro.
Tighten up, tighten up, Offrecord, tighten up, man so we
got, yeah, we got.

Speaker 2 (01:39:25):
this is the last one.
5.
We out there's Jay-Z Birdman,dr Dre, diddy.
One got to go.

Speaker 1 (01:39:43):
Diddy Damn Mary.

Speaker 2 (01:39:47):
J.

Speaker 1 (01:39:48):
My fault y'all.
No personal, though.
You know that right, because Iain't even trying to disrespect.

Speaker 2 (01:39:50):
Big like that.
I am saying my fault, y'all nopersonal though.

Speaker 1 (01:39:51):
You know that right, because I ain't even trying to
disrespect big like that, Iain't doing that.
But it's just like I'm justsaying.

Speaker 2 (01:39:58):
Mary J.

Speaker 1 (01:39:59):
Block.

Speaker 2 (01:40:00):
I ain't trying to disrespect Mary, neither.
I'm just saying what else?

Speaker 1 (01:40:05):
But look at what y'all, but look all of that is
beautiful until you start to saywhat I'm putting them up
against?
Rob Markman, Drake, Nicki Minaj, Lil Wayne, Tupac, Snoop Dogg.
Rob Markman, so you telling meI can't?
Make a hit list that can't goagainst that off of Diddy Rob

(01:40:26):
Markman.
I ain't saying you can't, I'msaying that-.

Speaker 2 (01:40:29):
Rob Markman.
Biggie Smalls, rob's small, I'msaying when you name Jada.

Speaker 1 (01:40:31):
Kiss Mary J.
Blige and whoever else he said,and Biggie Smalls, and then you
add them against yeah, and thenyou add them against Drake.
Biggie Smalls is the one thatcould go against everybody, bro,
the West got to go bro, marycan't go against everybody the
West got to go.
And the Locks can't go againstDrake, lil Wayne or Nicki Minaj
at all bro.

(01:40:52):
So am I tripping?
The West got to go, bro.
The West got to go.
Dr Drake got to go.
He holding on to the West, bro.
That's all I wanted to say heholding on to the West, bro.
He got to go Pac.
Got to go Pac.
Love Biggie Pac, love BiggiePac.
Ain't in it, man.
Man, everybody always see Pac.
Why trippin' bro, how?
Pac not in it Pac was before hewas at West Coast.

Speaker 2 (01:41:12):
He was from Baltimore .

Speaker 1 (01:41:13):
I'm going to keep it real, so Dr Dre's biggest hits
don't got to do with Tupac Evenif they wasn't.

Speaker 2 (01:41:17):
I'm going to keep it real.

Speaker 1 (01:41:18):
Dr Dre, Y'all could have had Tupac, they never
signed Pac.
Look, y'all could have had.
Tupac, I mean producer.
Was they signed to the samelabel?
Yeah, he do.
Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 2 (01:41:31):
What is y'all talking about?

Speaker 1 (01:41:33):
No, but he got associates with Dr Dre, though
he's still associated with DrDre Tupac.

Speaker 2 (01:41:36):
Is Dr Dre still man?
Y'all can't do that.

Speaker 1 (01:41:38):
That's like if he gets signed, it's like it don't
matter what was going on, you'reright, you're right, you're
right.

Speaker 2 (01:41:47):
You can't take that away.
He not over Biggie.
He not over Biggie.
Who Pac?
Yeah, he not over Biggie, allright.
It's definitely a part of2China.
All right, it's time to go.
It's time to go, let us take it.

Speaker 1 (01:41:58):
Pac Legacy bigger than that?
He does not.

Speaker 2 (01:42:05):
Pac.

Speaker 1 (01:42:05):
Legacy is bigger than Biggie's right.

Speaker 2 (01:42:07):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:42:07):
Pac Legacy is bigger than LA it Biggie's right no
legacy is bigger than LA.
No, it is.

Speaker 2 (01:42:20):
Bro, his legacy is bigger than him being in LA.
Bro, stop it.
Y'all not going to do this.
I was actually living.

Speaker 1 (01:42:23):
I'm just saying that was the biggest.
I'm just saying that was thebiggest part of the legacy.
That's what you said.
I don't think so, Bro.
Baby had a baby was major, yeah, but it wasn't.
It just wasn't bigger.

Speaker 2 (01:42:34):
That was like got out of.

Speaker 1 (01:42:36):
That's like the first rival song I've ever seen in my
life.

Speaker 2 (01:42:38):
Well, the budget isn't even the same the budget's
not a budget wasn't the same,so that's how?

Speaker 1 (01:42:44):
you know alone, it wasn't a bigger.

Speaker 2 (01:42:47):
You know, I'm saying just a little I'm telling you
about Shug had 300 million.
I'm saying just alone, I'mtelling you, you talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:42:52):
Shug had 300 million, nah man, they was bad enough.
But I'm just saying alone theyon ski boats and hitting
reversing benzes and parkinglots and all like Biggie budget
was crazy.
Yeah, biggie was, so y'all keepthem puffed basically, and then
uh, you got to and then keepthem cause of big?
basically no, cause the shinysuits man.
I mean big.
It gotta be because of big,though.
Right, that's what you standfor, bro.
Bro, that's the era of, that'sthe era of Bro.

(01:43:15):
You take away Diddy, bro, youmight as well take away our
whole nine years.
So, biggie All right, so waitlisten, listen, 112.
I just want to argue one thingon this argument real quick
before we slide.
Snoop Dogg is arguably thebiggest star in the entire world
, right Right or wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:43:31):
And I love dropping like it's hot.

Speaker 1 (01:43:33):
Snoop Dogg is one of the big.
He's probably arguably the mostfamous artist in the world.
Right, but to who?
No, to the world To consensus.

Speaker 2 (01:43:42):
Bro, I'm kidding for real.

Speaker 1 (01:43:44):
That's really like.
Snoop Dogg is one of the mostfamous artists in the world,
right Like Shaq is one of thebiggest.
Nba players in the world.
So that's one of the artistsfrom Defra and Dr Dre Snoop, and
then the other one is Tupac, sothem alone Don't say damn you

(01:44:04):
knew that, but when you break itdown, like that.
Snoop, really one of thebiggest.
Don't forget Snoop ran theMaster P.
Don't forget that we talking,but what that mean he still was
a crit from Long Beach and LAwith P.
And they was still in LA.
He was out there His career wasI mean, but look at where Snoop

(01:44:25):
at right now.
He's one of the most famouspeople in the entire world.
You're correct, not even justbecause of the rep.

Speaker 2 (01:44:34):

Speaker 1 (01:44:36):
I'm just going with them.
What Big Yep and the Lox Yepand who else you?

Speaker 2 (01:44:40):
said and Jay-Z Mary J Blige, jay-z ain't had nothing
to do with it.
No, I'm saying Jay-Z.
It was Jay-Z Diddy Birdman.

Speaker 1 (01:44:50):
Oh, oh oh, I thought you was talking about why you
was rapping.

Speaker 2 (01:44:53):
Bro, we cannot let no Puff got you know what I mean
the whole 90s.
I mean the whole 90s on lock.

Speaker 1 (01:44:59):
People came up here and said, jay, gotta go.

Speaker 2 (01:45:00):
Jay gotta go.
Yeah, people say Jay gotta go,man he my favorite rapper.

Speaker 1 (01:45:04):
See that's when they start tripping.
How from Philly say Jay, got gowith me.

Speaker 2 (01:45:08):
That's what I mean.
You put Bean on it when you putMack on it Put everybody on the
scale.

Speaker 1 (01:45:14):
Now you got to think of the scale Birdman scale, hole
scale.

Speaker 2 (01:45:19):
Dr Dre scale Hole got a crazy scale too.

Speaker 1 (01:45:22):
I think niggas be forgetting about J Cole when
they start talking about Hole,and then I think they forget
about Kanye West and Rihanna,Leave Jay out of this shit.

Speaker 2 (01:45:30):
I'm telling you real rat.

Speaker 1 (01:45:31):
We don't forget about him, it's just, he's up against
, his artist is up against.

Speaker 2 (01:45:36):
Ain't nobody more influential than Kanye, Little
Wayne, Nicki Minaj and Drake?
Nobody and nobody.

Speaker 1 (01:45:40):
People like them Leave Hov.

Speaker 2 (01:45:42):
Bro, hov can never go , ever Leave Hov, they be tri,
no we talking about ownershipthough.
Me too.

Speaker 1 (01:45:48):
It don't matter what we talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:45:50):
No, you got to.

Speaker 1 (01:45:51):
It don't even matter what we talking about when it
come to him we talking about theownership with the artist, bro.
That's where we at with it.

Speaker 2 (01:45:56):
It's not happening, bro.
It's artist versus state artist, all right, so, kanye.

Speaker 1 (01:45:59):
West, rihanna, j Cole , j Cole Wale State property,
beanie Seagull Versus YoungMoney and Cash Money yeah, but
you also got to give.
Jay, the edge Jay also get theedge just by himself.
Even if he don't even use noother artist ever, just use
himself, he's still an act.

(01:46:20):
He still got this no just usehimself, he's just going to put
Lil Wayne on there.

Speaker 2 (01:46:25):
He's not bigger than a hole.
What you mean?
Jay-z got a billion dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:46:32):
I know, but it's still like he's a billionaire.
I see Birdman and them gotta go.
So Lil Wayne and Drake andNicki Minaj and they gotta go
and Juvenile, that's what yousaying.
No, that's what you saying Ialready said it who gotta go on
the list?
Then I think I said Puff gottago.
That's still crazy to me, butmaybe I'm tripping, though I
might be tripping.

Speaker 2 (01:46:51):
I might be tripping, though Somebody gonna talk to
you.

Speaker 1 (01:46:56):
Jada, somebody that was you know that's my answer
right now.

Speaker 2 (01:47:01):
All right, so don't even.

Speaker 1 (01:47:02):
I mean Puff guy go for the simple fact.
If you think of the personalallegations, then did Puff guy
go?

Speaker 2 (01:47:08):
No, not even because of that.

Speaker 1 (01:47:09):
I don't even include that I just added up.

Speaker 2 (01:47:12):
I said big go ahead yo in the show bro in the show
core, in the show bro he ready,go crazy on Lil' 4.
Lil' 4.

Speaker 1 (01:47:27):
Lil', 4.
Lil', 4.
Lil', 4.
Lil', 4.
Lil', 4.
Lil' 4.

Speaker 2 (01:47:31):
Lil' 4.
Lil' 4.
Lil' 4.

Speaker 1 (01:47:33):
Lil' 4.
Lil' 4.
Lil' 4.
Lil' 4.
Lil' 4.
Lil' 4.
Lil' 4.
Lil' 4.
Lil' 4.
Lil' 4.

Speaker 2 (01:47:46):
Lil my cousin.

Speaker 1 (01:47:47):
K Smith in the building we going to LA man.

Speaker 2 (01:47:48):
We going to do it big out there.

Speaker 1 (01:47:51):
You already know Big Geek though.
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