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Speaker 1 (00:21):
Really the Moose.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Podcast.
Yeah man, we back at it.
Man, it's the Real of the MostPodcast.
It's your boy, Rilla.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
I'm Outta.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
World Cash.
I'm White Boy D2A.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yeah, and y'all tuned in to the Real of the Most
Podcast.
We got some special guests inthe building today.
Y'all tuned in to the real oftheir most podcasts.

Speaker 4 (00:45):
We got special guests in the building today yeah, you
already know how it go man fivestar, twins man five star twins
man, real familiar in the cityman.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Thanks what you know what you know for it.
Come on, come on, come on, comeon it a thing, ah yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
No, I ain't going to lie, though.
I'm going to keep it real withyou, right, it's an honor to
really have you all here,because I was telling basically
people from our side like youknow, I'm from Germantown, you
know what I'm saying Shout outto Kira, to Brand everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
Shout out to guys.
Shout out to the team.
Shout out to Brand.
Shout out to Brand.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Y'all came through for us.
When Uptown had like a littlequiet period, you feel me, Y'all
came through swinging.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Before we get all the way crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
I just wanted to say that fromthe jump.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Y'all know we got X.
How everybody doing man yeahman.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
But yeah, we got the five-star twins in the building.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
You already know.
Ain't too much we got you, feelme they a familiar face If you
are familiar with thePhiladelphia music scene,
whatever scene you into, because, they was doing, they thing you
feel me, so you know before weget all deep and all that you
know we take mental health realserious up here, so before we

(02:18):
get into anything we just askeverybody how they doing man.
So real quick.
I'll start off with me.
Uh, feel me I, I feel, I feel um, I feel good, like I feel, I
feel as though uh really themost is, uh, getting to a
certain level where it's like wejust gotta work and show people

(02:41):
that we ain't just hitting aceiling.
You feel me?
Because Philly stuff, phillypeople and Philly things is
known for just hitting a certainceiling and just staying right
there instead of blossoming.
You feel what I'm saying.
So I'm on a blossoming tentwith us.
That's what I'm trying to getus at.
How you feeling, white boy?

Speaker 3 (03:02):
So we ended off 2024 strong.
You know what I mean.
We came in in like April, likeApril, may, and now we here, we
were going to 2025 on some likeblossom and to the maximum

(03:26):
capacity.
Like to the maximum capacity,bro, more balenciaga, like more
stocked up, like more rolliesand All that, that energy there
though I feel the energy.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
More paper, bro, and bigger houses.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yeah, mm-hmm, how you Korg man.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Gillian Wallo threw a knockout party, man, and it
motivated me.
Man, Shout out to them guys.
They threw a fabulous show.
They had a couple of yeah man,it was motivated.
It was motivational to see how,you know, I mean, they could go
from talking on a pie like thisand travel in the world and

(04:20):
then throwing a knockout partyfor the city.
And I write and beyond not evenjust for the city, it was just
a lot of Just having thatinfluence, having that influence
.
Yeah, man it just.
I feel good, man, I feelmotivated, and I wish everybody
else the same.
You know what I'm saying, forsure, how y'all feeling today.

(04:41):
Man, shit you go you go.

Speaker 4 (04:45):
I feel, talking to Mike, I just feel more hungry
now, bro, because I ain't goingto lie Probably like the
beginning of 2024, I was gettingdiscouraged and shit, because I
ain't know what we was capableof.
But you feel me, everybody elsefelt like we capable of this
shit.
And we started gettingdiscouraged and shit.
But I just feel stronger now,like I feel like we capable of

(05:05):
this shit.
And we started gettingdiscouraged and shit, but I just
feel stronger now.
I feel like I'm ready for thisshit now.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
How are you bro?
How you feeling man?

Speaker 4 (05:16):
It seemed for real on like a scale of 10, I'm like a
6.
You feel me Because, like 2024,it was like it was deep.
You feel me Trying 2024, it waslike it was deep.
You feel me.
Trying to be independent wasn'tworking, you feel me.
But the brain just came backand he gave me that motivation,
like we still in it, like yeah,no question definitely ain't
over yeah, just gotta workthat's the only thing.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
All right, so oh please, everybody, put your
phones.

Speaker 4 (05:42):
You know how we do it white boy, go ahead, get into
it All right.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
So you know, here on the Real of the Most podcast, we
like, we kind of like differentfrom everybody else.
You know what I'm saying andlike.
And that's because, like before, like the guests that we
normally have come up here, webe having like a relationship
with them already.
Like we be having like arelationship with them already,

(06:08):
like we like students at a game,all three of us we watched the
game before before, likeeverything happened and we watch
it happen.
So we do our due diligence uphere.
We be knowing y'all but this isfor the world to know.
Y'all Know what I'm saying.
So where are y'all from?

Speaker 4 (06:21):
We from Lugan, we from Lugan, but we, like, we
grew up in Lugan, but we fromGermantown.
We was born in Germantown, yeah, okay, yeah, we was born in
Germantown, but we grew up inLugan, okay, you feel?

Speaker 3 (06:33):
me Okay, yeah, so like, okay, we're growing up in
Lugan and Germantown.
They both was like hard placesto grow up out of in philly and
you know we don't really behaving much when we come out of
these environments so like, giveme a um a few of y'all
influences coming up, and when Isay influences I mean like.

(06:56):
I mean like the people that belike right like in your house or
like right outside your door,like them type of people, them
type of influences like my pop.

Speaker 4 (07:06):
He like my pop.
Really, I was a football player, we was football players.
That's the first thing he, whenwe was five years old, that's
the first thing he did put us onthe football field right so we
wasn't really and we wasn't inthe streets, but we was outside,
but we wasn't in the streets.
On no crash house stuff rightright having fun as young boys
yeah, so we always had that makeit our mindset.
Even if it was football, I'mstill.

(07:26):
If it's not football, we stillgoing to figure it out.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
Type time Okay, I don't know.
Okay, so you always dope andplaying football, yeah, yeah, we
was high as fire.
So so, with pop as like theearly influence, and he and he
stick you all in the footballearly, looking up to him and you
know, like, coming from wherewe come from normally, like we
don't have our pops Right, like.

(07:50):
So, like, just talk about thata little bit, talk about like
having your pop growing up, shit.

Speaker 4 (07:56):
I want to say that shit saved us from a lot of
stuff, because I ain't going tolie he put his foot down in a
lot of situations where I feltlike we wouldn't win that.
He put his foot down and hemade his decisions in our life.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Put a mic a little closer to your.

Speaker 4 (08:11):
He made his decisions in life, for some of the
decisions we wasn't supposed tomeet, feel me.
He kept that light over ourhead.
He made sure we just kept going.
Every time he busts his assevery day, still to this day.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
Right.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
Busts his ass every day.
That's dope y'all.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
I like to hear that.
Because I like to hear that?
Because, like, I think like ifthe kids would hear that more
and accept some of the game thatthe older people, or they pop,
be giving them, it ultimatelywill save their life.

(08:53):
No, it will.
So, with y'all having pops,what was some of the early music
y'all used to hear him play?

Speaker 4 (09:04):
He wasn't really a music boy, my big brother.
He used to play a lot of MeekMill and stuff.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
All right, so y'all music.
Okay, so y'all first hearingmusic.
It come from Big Bro.
Yeah, yeah, my big brother.
Yeah, he used to play a lot ofCuzz shit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's his favorite rapper, sothat's what we used to listen to
for real okay mcmill yeah, thedvd era, yeah, okay, so when um

(09:34):
y'all hearing big bro play meat,did that, did that like give
y'all um like what, what was it?
That was like, all, all right,I'm going to try music.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
All right.
So, like we said, we wasplaying football, but, mind you,
our big brother I ain't goingto say he tried music out, but
he used to have like aninspiration for music at one
point.
Okay, so he used to just bewatching me and we'd be in the
crib just watching.
I still had that thought thatlike that I could make it to the
league.
But if I don't make it to theleague I could still probably be

(10:11):
a rapper.
I could probably try it out andsee if that shit worked.
And then, growing up playingfootball, you realize more shit
as you get older.
Like Pop Warner, that's juststraight fun football when you
get to like high school, nowthis is more as a job, like you
gotta be a certain way, yougotta be a certain height.
Forward um scouts to prospectyou and like that.

(10:36):
Yeah.
So we just was watching big bro, watch meek, and and then we
just tried that out.
We already knew he had like anenergy because we was dancing,
we was young boys too, we alwayswas dancing.
So we always had like a energyor a bop or something like we
always had a bop.
So we just put that shit on thebeat one time and that shit
just went from there.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
Y'all naturally know how to dance, or like y'all
learn how to dance.
Some of the stuff we learn forreal.
For real, I'm not nochoreography dancer.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
Like I can't do all that, but like when freestyle
like a beat, come on, I know howI groove.
Ok, it's like if you're fromPhilly, bro, you gotta know how
to dance bro.
You gotta have some type ofdancing body in your bone.
I mean dancing bone in yourbody, type shit.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
You gotta have a jig.
So what positions y'all play inhigh school?

Speaker 4 (11:26):
High school I play slot receiver, but before that I
played running back.
I played quarterback from PopWarner.
When I got to high school Iplayed quarterback.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
And where y'all go to high school at.
MOTAP, motap.
Oh yeah, they known for sportstoo.
Yeah, they known for sports too.
Yeah, they know for sports.
But I wanted to ask this so,like, because it's like a real
like, it's a real bad, likeheartbreak slash, like I can't

(12:02):
even explain a moment when yourealize like you was growing up
and growing up and growing upplaying these sports and you
just swear that's how you wasgoing to live your life and take
your family out the hood.
But everybody come to arealization at some point in
time where they know that that'snot what it's going to be.

(12:22):
You feel what I'm saying.
A time where they know that'snot what it's going to be, you
feel what I'm saying?
So did y'all get that in highschool?
Or it was like y'all senioryear, like when did y'all Lil
Jon Zeddy.

Speaker 4 (12:31):
Jr In high school.
Yeah, like in high school, like11th grade year, when COVID hit
.
It was like Rob Markman Jr.
Yo, it was a high school.
When COVID hit Lil Jon'ma do120, slot receiver.
Five, six, five, seven on agood day, I'm like no, we gotta
try something else.
Real red, this shit ain't gonnawork.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
Especially in the MOTEBA.

Speaker 4 (12:55):
In the MOTEBA we playing around D1 scouts yeah,
we playing around people likethat, yeah.
My homies is six three.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
Yeah 245,.

Speaker 4 (13:05):
I'm like they at Penn .
State right now, yeah, I wasnever gonna be like bro.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
So who was the players that was in y'all, john
Like.

Speaker 4 (13:13):
Keion Wiley.
He at Penn State right now.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Oh, my God he not white.

Speaker 4 (13:18):
He just came from Texas.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
Deshaun.

Speaker 4 (13:20):
Seals he at Westchester right now, who else?

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Oh, rymar, stewart, Rymar.

Speaker 4 (13:28):
Stewart.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Rymar Stewart.

Speaker 4 (13:28):
He at Nebraska right now, but some people it came to
a realization Like this shit isyeah, even homies on that team
everybody took a different route.
It's like not everybody takethe same route.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Right and like so.
When y'all got that realization, that was like music came far
after that right.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
Like a year after I stopped playing football.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Okay, okay.
So so the year in high schooly'all would say what like 11th,
12th, like, when y'all Like 12thgrade, bang 12th grade.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
So the season over in December, like right after the
season was over in december, westarted rapping and, come on,
blew up in february.
February, that's it what yeah,like, just like that 2021 was
december, we just ended football, we were doing youtube and we
met karen probably in thejanuary, february, put it on

(14:20):
tick, tock.
It was hold on, hold on shoutout care with the formula man
hold on, man.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
You said that y'all was in high school, right?

Speaker 4 (14:32):
the high school season ended in december
december 10th to be, and thebrand y'all start doing youtube.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
Dark, start doing youtube, yeah and then y'all met
so y'all was doing like whatMusic videos and dancing on
YouTube.

Speaker 4 (14:47):
Yeah, we was doing like pranks and shit, like
YouTubers, like vlogging andstuff, all right, all right.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
So like on some old Casanet type of genre, and then
y'all was doing YouTube Right,and then y'all start rapping.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
And y'all met Kier.

Speaker 4 (15:11):
Yeah, y'all, and then y'all start rapping and y'all
met care and January and Januaryput the sound of January 21st
and went to the moon and it blewup by February.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
After that, after February, we wasn't even really
in school, but we not in school,we leave in school to go
perform at another school andshit like that we leave in
school to go to Cosmic Cove andshit like that.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
So y'all was popping, y'all was popping, bro.
That shit sound fucking fakebro.
Yeah, and house was popping,our shit was at Bro.

Speaker 4 (15:36):
Teaching learners how to class all that.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
Sound like they playing.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
All right, all right, all right, so all right, yeah,
it was popping, so now we got.
So now I got to hit y'all withthis Like what made y'all even
meet Care?
Like, where did that come from?

Speaker 4 (15:56):
My pop, my pop knew me, my pop knew Care from the
runaway.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
Yeah, and my pop friend.

Speaker 4 (16:01):
his name Rhett.
He passed away and stuff he wasfrom back the way.
And Care.
Name Rhett, he passed away andstuff he was from back the way
in Care, no Rhett.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
So that's how they was locked in, y'all pop you
said, yeah, my pop right there,oh, for real.
Yeah, oh, all right, all right,all right.
So all right, boom.
So y'all met Care, he alreadydoing the brand and all that.
So that's like Bugatti, all ofthem was All right, boom.

(16:28):
So y'all meet him.
And what y'all like All right,how did it go?
Like y'all got the formula,then y'all meet, come On.
Or y'all had Come On, he heardit and it was like how'd that go
?
All right.

Speaker 4 (16:41):
So we had.
Come On was an unreleased song.
You feel me?

Speaker 2 (16:46):
We made it inside their studio, though Like.

Speaker 4 (16:49):
Lil put us in the studio before we even signed or
anything.
Before we even really met Care.
We met Lil first.
Okay, and we was just talkingto them, like talking to Lil he
telling us about Spotify and howthe music shit worked.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yeah, he telling us that type shit.

Speaker 4 (17:02):
So we made the song in the studio so it was
unreleased.
It was probably unreleased forlike two, three weeks.
Then we ended up putting it out.
But with Manji we alreadylocked in with Karen now, so
they already know we do musicand shit before it come on.
So when we got, when that shitstarted going up, it was like
all right, let's just lock infor real now.
Okay, when.
What was the?

Speaker 3 (17:19):
last boy I ended up on first.

Speaker 4 (17:21):
Tick-Tock, tick-tock, of course.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Tick-Tock, tick-tock.
I don't even know why he askedthat.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
Tick-Tock, bro Right over night, that was the last
six years.

Speaker 4 (17:29):
That's for the viewers.
I was in school running throughthe halls like yo, this shit,
wham, what.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
What Bro I?
You know who was like that inour day.
Hey, I was so jealous of Havbro.
Hav it Yo Rico was lit andWoody Hav and Woody Like why is
y'all getting chased, bro?
Like little light-skinnedpeople Like just oh my God, but

(18:06):
the football person who was likethat In our Remember here Will
Parks.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
Oh, yeah, he was like that.
Will was like that Yo.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
That was our day.
He Yo, he Problem.
So y'all familiar with, likeJalen.

Speaker 4 (18:18):
Strong what.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
That's our yeah.
Yeah, but I was ass at football, but I just know the you feel
me.
But yeah, all right, so we'regonna.
We're gonna get to it right allright, boom.
So because this, uh, this, Iain't gonna lie like y'all.
I don't know if y'all notice,like before we get into the the

(18:40):
nut, the nut stuff that y'allwent through and all that or
just stuff, y'all it didn't workout.
I don't know how y'all look atit, but just at the point that
y'all at right now you know thatwas my dream, that was his
dream, that was a lot ofpeople's dream to just meet
somebody and then something justblow up, y'all really got the

(19:02):
American rapper dream Like itreally happened to y'all.
You feel what I'm saying?
Like, how old is y'all now?
20.
Yeah, that's crazy bro, that'scrazy Y'all got they can do it
again that shit's

Speaker 3 (19:13):
crazy.
They can do it again.
Y'all could do it 80 times.
They had the biggest song inthe city.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
And it was at 21 million Bro Views on YouTube
right now.
Y'all are dumb.
Like Like that's Chief Keefstuff, like even though
Everybody blow up now Like witha TikTok, but it's never fast,
like Too Rare was he done.
Switched like three differentflows by the time he even got to

(19:41):
where he at.
All these people, you see theyreally put in a and not saying
you ain't put in the work,because it just, it just was
right, it just happened.
You feel me.
But you hear a lot of peoplesay I'll just start rapping and
it just bro.
They graduated school y'allain't got no, yeah, so we worked
at wendy's their career, theny'all ain't got none of that in

(20:03):
y'all story High school Footballain't work out.
The brand come on.
It's straight, it's juststraight.
That's fads, fads Three-monththing.
Y'all don't even know ithappened to y'all.
But y'all don't even know howcrazy that is, because it
happened to y'all, so y'all justlike real shit.
But it's really crazy, though,because every I be telling you

(20:25):
like yeah?

Speaker 3 (20:27):
That don't happen.
That ain't going to happen inlike 10 or 13 years.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
Yeah, yeah, ooh, meek , no, two decades.
I don't know, y'all was bornlate.
It took him two decades.
Real talk, real rap.
03, right, 04, 03 and all that.
Two decades, yeah, but peoplesay I talk too much, so let me
focus it on y'all again.
So, all right, boom.

Speaker 4 (20:55):
So y'all record the joint in his basement or his
house or something like that.
No, it was somebody's studio,it was their studio, it was
their private studio.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
Okay, okay, and y'all recorded, Come On.
So how was that?
How was that session?
And did y'all knew y'all hadsomething?

Speaker 4 (21:10):
Yeah, all right, bang , I got the story right here,
all right.
So right before we went in thestudio, mind you, we got late on
the song, yeah.
So she texted me.
She's like yo, what y'all got,y'all got something I can hop on
.
She, y'all got something I canhop on, like yo, we about to
cook something up right now.
I'm going to let you hear it.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
So hold on, how y'all know, lay, yeah, hold on,
that's what I'm saying I knewLay before, but I am, I just got
the fucking Da Vinci code.
Yeah, so Lay, yeah, oh, oh,hold up, we ain't doing that.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
So ho all right.
So y'all knew Lay from highschool.
No, I knew Lay over TikTok.
She had TikTok up front.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
Oh, because she was dancing on TikTok.
Oh, because she was dancing onTikTok.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
Hey y'all, was popping, so y'all just dancing
on TikTok.

Speaker 4 (21:52):
All right, bet this one she used to do like R&B, so
she didn't really do party music, yeah, but this time I, you
feel me.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
You're lying Real rap , so y'all knew.
Hold on, that wasn't late.
First, john.

Speaker 4 (22:05):
Bro, that had to have been late.
First, john, it was bro, unlessy'all, y'all fraud.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
Everything was the live music, though Bro her first
John was the party.

Speaker 4 (22:13):
John.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
So look too.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
But y'all look, and she rapped too what.
Y'all knew Like from the, fromthe, from the.

Speaker 4 (22:21):
Well, like with the Tick tock, tick tock, no hold up
.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Hold up, Hold up.
Oh man, Hold up bro.
So you're saying that the firstparty John Lee had was your job
?
Yeah Damn.
So that mean see.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
All right, all right, all right Look.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
I'm not even going'm gonna chill, I'm gonna chill,
bro.
No, you don't got to be talkingwhen I you feel me and late and
late folks is my folks folks,folks like her, pop, her brother
, all that.
But I didn't know, because it'sfunny, bro, because I was
really like thinking like thesame thing with uh rare, like he

(23:05):
was doing certain type of songs, and then they seem like
everybody just za, so so all,and they just hopped over to the
.
But I, I can't remember latefirst jawn, though.
That's why, when y'all sayingit is like damn so so, so all
right, bet.
So y'all know each other fromtikt, all right boom.

Speaker 4 (23:24):
All right, finish with this.
We get to the studio.
You feel me, mind.
You come on with the freestyle.
No, nothing written down, noneof that.
He pulled the beat up.
We did it bang.
I didn't really like it when wefirst made it.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
I didn't like it.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
You remember, we did two songs.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (23:38):
We did that, yeah, but that ain't got nothing to do
with, come on.
But, you gotta walk them down?

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Yeah, walk them down, walk us down.
Yeah, you do it.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
We go to the studio, boom yeah, walk us down.
We do two songs.

Speaker 4 (23:49):
It's some shit called Osama's Story and some other
shit.
I forget the name of it, but wedid the two songs.
Mind you, we only had like twohours in the studio that day.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
OK.

Speaker 4 (24:03):
So we probably had like only a couple minutes that
do come on.
So when we pulled the beat up,mind you Lay not on there,
nobody, it's just the beat, andwe just freestyled over there.
John, I'm in there.
John, I'm like, welcome toparty.
I'm sipping on Pepsi.
Wait, no, I really had a Pepsiin my hand, so I'm freestyling.

(24:26):
I'm like I'm in the party.
I'm sipping on pepsi.
Wait, no, I'm sipping on fanny.
We getting lit.
We got fans out of lana.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
We even had fans out of lana when I said that, yeah,
real, all this cat.
Yeah, I spoke that shit.
Yeah, yeah, faking the making.

Speaker 4 (24:34):
Yeah, yeah, we made that shit in like 15 minutes.
You know what I mean.
Sent it over to the-.
Y'all made your biggest hit in15 minutes Freestyle Right off
the top.
Right off the top.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
All right.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
Right, one punch.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
And y'all only got a couple minutes left in the
studio.
If you hear the song.

Speaker 4 (24:53):
We saying weak no, we really freestyle like weak no.
Hold on, I don't want to saythat, but I'm sipping on Fanta.
We getting a shot at Fanta inAtlanta.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
I'm hating Got it going yeah.

Speaker 4 (25:05):
Yeah, I'm hating bro, she's like what the Like, what
she like.
Mind you, I don't even thinkit's that hot, but she like what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
what Like y'all was going off of that?
I'm getting the studio downtown.

Speaker 4 (25:18):
Come slide slide slide right now.
So right there, mind you, I thefirst come on.
Don't even sound like the comeon, that's out.
I changed my whole first verse.
I changed the whole verse whilehe was in the studio with lay
bang so he could get him.
I kept the come on part, thepepsi part and all that.
So we added the other verseswith like lay when I tell you
she ran and out there like weheard it in like 10, 15 minutes

(25:42):
freestyle though she like, I'mlike, oh my god freestyle off
the top in the world right nowbro yeah coming out of philly
shout out delay she just signedthe under armor, the first

(26:05):
female

Speaker 1 (26:06):
rapper shout out the leg applause for like kenny
blake, hey yo so look all right,boom right, so, so, so, so,
boom right, y'all.
Y'all make the track.
So, even how you say it, ity'all verses like.
You just said something.
Explain it.
Our verse blew up then herslike but it's the same song, so

(26:30):
explain what you meant by that.

Speaker 4 (26:32):
All right, so boom.
When we first made the song, itwas just me and Heme verse on
there.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (26:36):
When we threw it on TikTok it was just me and Heme
verse on there.
And then when Lay called us tothe studio, she did her shit and
she put her joint on.
As soon as we left the studioshe put it on TikTok.
Ours was already up there forprobably like a week or two,
like a week or two Modulesalready going viral.
So we like once Lay dropped herjoint on there, that shit
really going boom.
So she put that shit on TikTokwhen we left the studio Next day

(27:00):
, probably, like I'm going tosay like that next week.
Bro, that shit was strong like10k videos, shit was out of here
bro.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
No, it's so crazy.
Oh right, yeah, it really isand then it's crazy because
that's what.
I'm, that's what I'm saying,bro.
Like come on, hey, that justgot working.
Bro.
Like that's just like, that'sjust like, bro, I, I that that

(27:30):
part right there is just likelike unbelievable to me.
Like, because for tiktok tojust be that type of platform
where y'all could just makesomething real quick and just
throw it on an app and just likesee who catch it, and then it
just catch all I gotta do iscatch that one right, yeah shake

(27:54):
that cool and december earlydecember yeah, yeah, yeah yeah
zion d30 all right, cool, so so.
So, if I'm not Mistaken At thistime Cause I can ask y'all how
you feel when I can ask that butI really want to ask something

(28:16):
else, because the way we is inPhilly right now Is a lot of
competition, cause a lot ofpeople doing the same things.
They either doing drill or theydoing what y'all was doing.
Feel what I'm saying.
So what I want to ask is youhad a couple people on that wave

(28:39):
.
Y'all was on when y'all wasdoing it.
So what I want to ask is howwas y'all able to go for what?
What did y'all do in youropinion that made somebody hit a
million or two million, buty'all hit 20?
Feel me for y'all to be likedoing the same thing, everybody

(29:00):
doing the dances and all that,but charges go a little bit like
more valuable and more popular,like besides lay being on there
, which y'all think that waslike, which y'all think y'all
did.

Speaker 4 (29:13):
I feel like there's just some, some twin, like we
was doing the same exact movesand somebody doing the same
exact moves and moving at thesame time.
It looked crazy.
So every time we did it like wewould just pop out on the stage
somewhere Motherfuckers don'teven know we coming, we would
just pop out and that shit wasrolling.
Oh shit, you feel me.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
Yeah, and wasn't there other people, like other
youngins that was famous fordoing the dance in your vid
right?
Yeah, Like Brill, and all ofthem was in there.

Speaker 4 (29:40):
Right, that was Get in there.
Right.
That was, that was get humpy.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
Oh, all right yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah.
No, they, they wasn't in.
Come on, no, okay, all right.
So, all right, so, all right.
Now, come on.
That's, that's.
Where is that?
You feel me that is doing whatit's doing how?
How?
School for y'all?
Because I know that had to havebeen like elite.

Speaker 4 (30:02):
Y'all said joe wasn't going, but how was it when
y'all went, after that, Bro,they almost what's that shit
called when you gotta go tocourt, you miss too many days.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
True and see, bro, true and see.

Speaker 4 (30:14):
Bro, we was late so many days, Bro, we was like we
was careful we was sendingletters.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
huh, it was careful it was.
We was outside early morning.

Speaker 4 (30:22):
We'd be in the studio until like 4 in the morning and
got up.
Wake up from school, oh my God.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
Hell yeah, we'd be waking up at 7.30.

Speaker 4 (30:27):
He was sending letters to the crib like I was
awake too many days 9.30, likewhat's up y'all?
He was like hey.
T for y'all to be talking to meabout.
Yeah, as long as my gradeschool we still doing our senior
projects.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
We still on the books Y'all famous in 12th grade.

Speaker 4 (30:50):
Yeah, type shit.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
This is after y'all got the song WillA, though,
right, Mm-hmm, All right, soy'all got the song WillA.
How did y'all compensate off ofit, though?
Did y'all make anything off ofit?
Yeah, yeah, you want me to Nah,I don't need to know how much,
or not.

Speaker 4 (31:09):
Oh yeah, yeah, we got a single deal off of it for
real For the people that'swatching y'all go from high
school to making music.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
They might want to know, well, how did y'all go
from there to there with thebrand?
You know you got the brandright here.
So shout out to Care too.
Y'all Care in the building, butwith y'all getting with the
brand, you know, I know heprobably came up with a lot, but
I want to know, like, how didy'all pitch y'all to Sun Sun?
Because you know, as an artist,you got to keep going, like you

(31:43):
got to keep going, you got tokeep working, all right.

Speaker 4 (31:45):
So basically, come On , was going crazy, right?
Yeah, care was already anartist, so he already knew the
ins and outs through this shit,so he kind of was just like
labels reaching out, they wasn'tthrowing enough dough.
So, he just took the best doughfrom Motown and shit and we
just worked out from there.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Oh, so y'all took a deal.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
Okay, so damn.
So, look, y'all went fromfucking school.
I know this is crazy, my bad.
Y'all went from school Football.
Y'all going to the studio withLil Record, the song Viral song.
Put it on TikTok and go crazy,right, go get lay on it, right,

(32:34):
and y'all get a single deal,mm-hmm.
And y'all still in 12th grade.
Yeah, we, I'm at a basketballgame.

Speaker 4 (32:42):
Rodger N Carter did it.
Lil Wayne do it, yeah.
Rodger N Carter did it.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
Lil Wayne, do it, yeah, rodger N Carter, he did it
as soon as.

Speaker 4 (32:47):
I post that up.
Motown A&R.
Text me like yo.
What's your manager?
Oh?

Speaker 2 (32:53):
man, it was over after that.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
Shit was over All right, so boom.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
Say no more.
Say no more.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
So we was having a certain Convo before the show
and I think that is important Tothis topic.
Right here I'm not gonna sayexactly what we was talking
about, but Did y'all know?
Well, it's obvious, y'allprobably didn't, it probably was

(33:25):
did.
Did the brand being with y'allduring that motel, motel deal,
them being with y'all?
Is y'all glad that it went likethat or y'all wish it would
have went another way?

Speaker 4 (33:41):
I wish we knew more of the business side.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
And when you say we who you?

Speaker 4 (33:46):
and him Me and him or all y'all.
No, they knew the business side, me and him.
Ok, OK we would have stayeddown, if we would have stayed
down.
You feel me stayed down?
Get a try, get a record deal orsomething, because it was only
a single deal, one right therewe like all we had to do was
give him a little just to show,show him that we had another one

(34:07):
coming who showed him motel,all right.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
So boom, see this one , this one.
I don't fuck with labels righthere, because this I'm, I'm, I
say something.
Right for y'all to be in 12thgrade and to have a fucking hit
like that and for y'all to evensaying we should have showed
them.
No, they should have probablydid more.

(34:34):
You feel me these labels justbe oh shit, they got that one.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
That one or two we won.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
So let's just get the cheese from that and then after
that, them niggas could do whatthe fuck they Nah.
Y'all shouldn't even feel likey'all should've Nah.
They should've Feel what I'msaying.
But it happened.
It was in the past.
Y'all was 17 years old.
You feel me?

Speaker 3 (34:57):
But y'all, you said the right thing.
Like y'all.
Wish I would have stayed downbecause ultimately this is what
happens you do the one off, theone off happen.
Maybe you got another one,maybe you don't.
Either way, they still gottabelieve in you to give you the
the paper.
Now say they don't and you comeback to the hood and that was

(35:19):
so dangerous.
You gotta move a littledifferent because you famous
right you know what?
I mean yeah and now you, youkeep, and then you, and then you
making music, looking for adeal when that wasn't even a
case from the hit yeah right,and I don't even I'm scared to
like.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
Y'all was 17, bro.
Y'all 20.
Y'all still young.
I'm scared to ask y'all aboutroyalties and masters and
distribution.
Y'all 20 years old you feel meLike from being 17 down to y'all
20, do y'all know aboutroyalties?
Yeah, we know about royalties.
All right, bet, all right.

(35:57):
So this is how I'm going to asky'all.
I'm going to ask y'all this onequestion and then we can get to
the bad management, because I'mnot trying to get all in-depth
with all this bad shit.
You feel what I'm saying?
All I want to ask y'all isroyalties, masters, distribution
, publishing and all that typeof jazz right there.

(36:22):
Do y'all got it with that song?
No, yes or no?
Like y'all got it with thatsong?
No, yes or no.
Like y'all don't cuz the Motown, right, and how to deal with
that right.

Speaker 4 (36:30):
Okay, I still do get part of it okay, okay, okay,
okay.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
So it's something in there that okay, okay.
So now take us to the partwhere how long ago what that was
again three years ago right howlong, how long, how long going
on through february.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
This february will be three yeah, so y'all know how
long they tied them with y'allwith that, with that song was it
?

Speaker 4 (36:58):
I think?
Well, I think it was six months, but we cut them off.
You feel me, we felt like wewasn't moving.
We got out of it.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
Oh yeah, I know that.
Yeah, I know that yeah.

Speaker 4 (37:12):
It's normally like a prior time, don't fuck with me.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
Y'all got to stay here until I drop this much
music or this much.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
No, it was only for that song.
Yeah, like the song made allthis.
No, it was only for that song,see, because it happened so fast
.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
The leverage was the song.
Yeah, damn you know what I mean.
It happened fast, so theleverage was the song All right.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
So boom, because I know Lil, I know Bugatti and
Carey and Rel I know thempersonally, so I know they know
about feel me, but some deals,just what it is Like.
All right, let's get this dealso we can make this business
move, get them in a certainlight.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
I don't know how we take this.
Y'all see, you feel what I'msaying.
But still, ultimately theystill just management and the
label.
Like they still have to makethe big decision of if they want
to put their name on this paperor not.
Yeah, it's only up to them.
To a certain extent, they canonly wish them well and give
them the best of knowledge ofwhat they know.
It's still their career.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
Okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
So so I heard, I heard Cameron say like after
seven years you could remakeyour song and put it back up.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
Yeah.
No, that's deeper than whatthey yeah yeah, yeah that's some
super deep five albums and allthat's what he was talking about
oh, you're talking about thattype of yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, that's that.
That's the crazy joint.
That's the joint where, like,somebody signed a lifetime deal.

Speaker 4 (38:32):
Lifetime deal.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
Yeah, yeah, they just got one song.
Everything else they ever putout don't got nothing to do with
it.
Feel what I'm saying, so thisis what I really want to get
into.
I didn't even expect this fromthis interview, like this
interview this is like the.

(38:53):
Lil Mook joint we had.
We interviewed Lil Mook.
Shit set roofs on fire Becausewe got into the whole business.
They wasn't expecting us tocome like that.
We really know what we betalking about.
We don't just be up heretalking.
You feel what I'm?

Speaker 3 (39:10):
saying, yeah, we a little knowledgeable about what
be going on.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
Yeah, I be in them offices.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
Yeah, we be in the rooms for real.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
So when we saying rule you T's and we, we ain't
just talking Like we really knowwhat we talking about.
You feel what I'm saying.
So I want to get to the partwhere y'all said I wish I would
have stayed down.
Now I'm guessing y'all sayingy'all wish y'all would have
stayed down with the brand right, yeah, all right.
So explain to us what happenedin that situation.

Speaker 4 (39:38):
So with us being so young we was 17 and shit we
didn't understand the businessside of the music.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
Okay, you feel me.

Speaker 4 (39:44):
So when I felt like Motown wasn't moving us around a
lot, we started gettingirritated.
We started like damn, they justgot to sit in here.
But it wasn't even one of them,Jones.
I don't know.
I still don't know what theywas trying to do with us.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
It's natural.
So, they moving you around withus.
It's natural, so like it's notthey, they move this motown they
were trying to grab aroundbased on the traction of the
song.
So once y'all signed uh, oncey'all signed the deal for the
single, it's like they onlygonna put y'all on like they,
they gotta, they gotta.
Um, they got an infrastructureon how they move y'all around

(40:21):
just At that time at that time?

Speaker 2 (40:24):
did Motown have anybody on their label that was
similar to y'all?

Speaker 4 (40:30):
What made?

Speaker 2 (40:31):
y'all jump in that deal.

Speaker 4 (40:35):
Being money hungry at 17.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
But the thing about it is that was a super good
question.
But the thing about it thatthat was a super good question,
but the thing about it, that'swhat I asked, though I'm saying
like what, what happened to makey'all be like we ain't stay
down?
Like what did y'all do?
Y'all took a deal we took.

Speaker 4 (40:54):
We all right, how can I put this?
All right, we cut ties withMotown.
Basically, we like yo let usout this joint.
You feel me.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (41:05):
But let us out the deal.
We felt like we could be betterindependent type shit, Like we
ain't need no label.
We was too big-headed prior.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
Because everything that it took for the song to pop
off it was never from the label, that was already done.
Because everything that it tookfor the song to pop off it was
never from the label Right, thatwas already done.
The label ain't do nothing, butcome in and give you a couple
dollars, right, and move youaround a little bit, but I'm
trying to gumbo it though,because, look, this is what I'm
asking.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
I'm trying to gumbo it.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
You gumboing it.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
Motown.
Y'all said y'all cut ties withMotown.
So when y'all cut ties withMotown, when did they come in
what part where we ain't statelike, y'all just got irritated
with everybody and said fuckeverybody, All right bet.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
I knew that's what happened.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
I just wanted y'all to see it.
All right, bet so time out.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
Wait, wait.
Back to what he said, huh.
Back to what you said Rightthere, right, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
Right there, Because he already was up here and we
already asked him.

Speaker 3 (42:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
So I just wanted y'all to be grown.
So I wanted y'all to hear I hadmissed that show.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
So what happened was they got hot wound up signing
the deal with Motown and cutthem out at the time because
they wanted to make a decision.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
No, they signed with Motown.
Yeah, all of them, yeah, yeah,yeah.
But then they started gettingirritated and said fuck all
y'all.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
Okay, that's basically what happened and you
got to understand why becausethey naturally put the songs
together without everybody inthe room.
You feel me, yeah.
So they like hold on.
You feel me yeah.

Speaker 4 (42:44):
So, they like hold on , you know what I'm saying.
When the artist she took yeah,it was like we was just having
fun with the music Mm-hmm.
We got into the music.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
Now the business is stopping our creation.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
I'm going to get y'all my joint because I just
feel as though I got to Allright.
Y'all got this song.
It's popping.
Y'all definitely was neversupposed to sign no one off, and
definitely not with Motown.
Now what y'all should've didwas leverage that song to every
label, start a batting war andthen you hit them with 2 Humphie

(43:15):
, because I already had that asa follow up.
You feel me.
So what you should've-.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
Rob Markman Jr.
Damn, y'all was on that, Rob.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
Markman Jr.
Damn, y'all was on there, yeah,which I'm telling you what
y'all should talk.
Your talk, white boy shouldhave did was leveraged.
Was leveraged, the first one,wham yeah, the biggest lay banks
on it.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
Y'all even broke her yeah, I probably had a bigger
song.
That wasn't the same as flexingand flashing right, so no.

Speaker 4 (43:37):
So y'all had the biggest song boy keep cooking.
So y'all had the biggest songman Keep cooking.
White boy Keep cooking.
I got to see this shit man.

Speaker 3 (43:43):
What y'all already having.
The leverage of the song is thebiggest thing in Philly.
Y'all starting and it's likey'all moving the whole Shake
that Dance era forward and y'allbroke an artist Right Know what
I mean?
And you got 2Huffy on thebackup, Bro, that's white boy,

(44:06):
I'm telling you.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
That's white boy, y'all.

Speaker 3 (44:07):
Bro, six, seven figures for sure.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
That's white boy y'all.
But look though.
Six, seven figures for sure,but look though this is crazy,
Because I just want.
That's what you would have goton I got a short answer for this
because they probably don'teven know the answer to this
question.
So when they got irritated withMotown.
Was that a cutoff, like at thesame time, or they cut them off.

(44:30):
Then y'all like how it go?
Same time, All right, cool, allright.
Now boom.
What's up with this?
What's up with the newmanagement?
Like how that happened, likewho is these fuckers?
Who?

Speaker 2 (44:47):
directed that how y'all directed that Manipulation
, bro.

Speaker 4 (44:51):
That's what the word is.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
Don't even put the name no name, then no name, but
explain us what A we're going tocall him A.
Okay, A.

Speaker 3 (44:59):
So A right you feel me, think they jay-z give me the
time frame or when a come in,you're alive, so they cut y'all
20, 20 20, 23, yeah okay 23 sothis is after, yeah right, the
summer 2022, probably likenovember, december, we met a and
before 2023 okay all right.

(45:20):
Is A a local or are they fromout of town?

Speaker 4 (45:23):
A local.
Ok, so us again believe inpeople you feel me.
So A telling us yo, y'all getwith me, I'm going to move y'all
around.
I'm going to do this, I'm goingto make sure y'all cool.
Y'all just got to work.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
Do A have a track record of successful artists
before?

Speaker 4 (45:50):
y'all get one.
Hold on, yeah, I can't lie.
Great question, whitey.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
Ho, ho, ho ho ho Is A a woman.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
No, don't go.
Oh shit, let's just keep itgoing.
Oh no, don't go, let's go.
Oh shit, let's just keep itgoing.
Oh shit, let's just keep itgoing.
Hold up, oh ah, ah ah, I'mgoing to chill.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
I'm going to chill Because I'm so much in the music
.
I'm going to chill.
Go ahead, though.
Go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 4 (46:19):
Go ahead.
Yeah, we're, they do have.
She did A did have an artist.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
You feel me she had an artist, I guess she had a
couple artists, they had acouple people, she had a couple
people.
Oh, give it up, man.
Chill, chill, chill, chill, goahead.

Speaker 4 (46:33):
A had like A had like Chill bro.
Like probably like threeinfluencers and a.
It blew and one of her rappersblew up and that's just shot
down.
That's what okay you feel me.
So when she came and got us,she making it seem like she
could do the same thing she didto the boy that shot up yeah so

(46:54):
she kicking it us like, yeah, Igot y'all, so we making the
music, mind you, we show her, weshow ar music.
You feel me, she like this shittrash.
She like, eh, that's the firsttime.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
I ever heard.

Speaker 4 (47:09):
B is her best friend and B here and like no, this
shit hot you tripping, so Bsaying it's hot but the main
character saying it's ass.
So she basically tried to makeus switch our whole situation up
.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
You feel me.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
She killed our swag and all that she tried to make
y'all hop on Kendrick Lamarbeats and shit Damn.
What type of time she tried tomake.
Y'all get on my fault, bro.

Speaker 4 (47:38):
I could do the melodic shit, but it was.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
Lil Durk type stuff.

Speaker 4 (47:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
Talk to him.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
I'm like, bro, you're Like I could do them a lot of
shit, but it was like well, dirttype stuff, fun.
You talking about give thempain.

Speaker 3 (47:56):
Superstars in high school, you talking about talk
Was wrong with people, bro.
That was.
That was the second mistake.
You talking about talk to him.
What is wrong with people, bro?
So that was the second mistakeyou know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
I played football all my life.

Speaker 3 (48:05):
You talking about talk to him what Y'all believed
in, somebody that told y'allsomething that y'all didn't even
need to know.
You feel me Y'all didn't evenneed nobody to tell you to
believe in yourself, because itwas y'all that got popping.
So all y'all had to do was keepbelieving in yourself, type

(48:26):
shit.
You feel me, stand down, keepcreating and keep believing in
yourself.
You don't need a third party totell you that, bro, all right,
don't so so hold on.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
So all right.
So A saying it's trash B likeyou mean.
So what so?
What so?
So man all?

Speaker 4 (48:45):
right and A basically saying yo the party, shit dead,
die of the party shit.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
In 2023?

Speaker 4 (48:53):
Bro, it's not making no.
She's saying it's not making nomoney, we ain't gonna make
nothing off of this.
That's a family enemy orsomething in 2023?

Speaker 1 (48:59):
Right, so we had like this song called Ten Shots.
That's a family enemy orsomething In 2023?

Speaker 4 (49:02):
Right.
So we had, like this joint,this song called Ten Shots.
It was on the melodic tip, butwe still added that party wave
in there Just to show her thatyo, this shit not dead.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
That's crazy, so we put it on TikTok it's called Ten
Shots.

Speaker 4 (49:16):
This was like 2023.
That was the height of it.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
It was the height of it.

Speaker 4 (49:19):
Bro, when I tell you that joint we made a challenge.
It took like a week for thatjoint to really start going up,
so that shit hit like 8,000videos On TikTok.
When you shit hit over 5,000,you're supposed to drop that
joint.
And push off of that 5,000.
So we at 8,000 and shit we likeyo, we gotta drop this joint.
But mind you, y'all ever heardof 2K Baby.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
Yeah, yeah, chicago boy.

Speaker 4 (49:40):
No, he from Kentucky.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh shit, yeah, yeah
, 2KR yeah.

Speaker 4 (49:47):
So, mind you, he hit us up.
You feel me, he hit us up.
Like yo, I want to hop on thatjoint Bang.
We sent him the Uberverse, heget it done and all that.
The song is at 8,000 videos.
We like yo, we got to drop thisjoint.
She like yo, we're going towait.
We're going to wait it out.
Bro, two months go past,literally, literally, two months

(50:08):
.
Mind you, you got otherpeople's shit going up.
You got Rare's room, rare'sroom.
You had Keisha Samir.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
I know, yeah, went fucking crazy.

Speaker 4 (50:24):
You had XM.
Basically, it was just anotherspin around, another spin around
about to happen.
And just what we was doing,that Charme pop.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
Right, like that.
Y'all was some of the pioneers,you feel me?
And now this lady is tellingy'all to sing like Rhy-Wave.
She holding y'all back andy'all the pioneers of a whole
wave that they done alreadymastered and all that she was
holding y'all back.

Speaker 4 (50:47):
So, right there, it was like all right, bang.
We dropped the song.
Two months later it went up alittle bit.
It probably hit like 50k, but Iknew it could have.
I knew it could have winbecause it was one of them Jones
, where it was hot.
It was like you can't deny thisJones.
So we get there.
It was like 50K.
We like all right, that's cool,Bre, just shake it off.
We got to do something else soright in June, mind you, we 10

(51:11):
Shots was in like ahead of, inlike March, yeah, march.
So in June we come out.
We like, all right, we still inthe party with you because we
not letting her tell us thisshit did when it's right in
front of our face.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
Yeah, everybody's shit going viral.

Speaker 4 (51:26):
There's no way this shit did so.
We do some other hot shit.
That shit, that shit was hot,it's called quick and we did
that shit we did that shit.
15k video.
Yeah, that shit like 15,000videos.
We did that shit in June.
We shot the vid in thebeginning of July.
Manju, in the June, june, 26,27,.

(51:47):
I put it on TikTok.
That shit was whamin' by July 1.
That fast, bro.
Every video we dropped onTikTok was like 600k it's 900k.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
A mil A mil.

Speaker 4 (51:58):
All right.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
I went out and do a job with me and my mom.
That shit a mil.

Speaker 4 (52:01):
She like all right, she like all right, she like all
right.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
I see y'all, I see y'all what you mean, you see us.

Speaker 4 (52:07):
Let's get it done.
She on something.

Speaker 3 (52:10):
You gonna do this shit, so mind you, rod, just
gotta see how much it's gonnasell.

Speaker 4 (52:14):
Yeah, real red Rod.
Geez, he called me, he like yousee that shit waming on the top
and and Rod got a fan base tothe point where they not leaving
you.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
That's the layup right there.
That's the layup right there.
He got a fan base.
That's hard for a coach toleave you, bro.

Speaker 4 (52:29):
So he like yo send that open that shit hot.
Mind you, it was probably atlike 8,000 vids at the time.

Speaker 3 (52:34):
Dropping that shit on his streaming platform, on his
streaming shit, I'm like allright, but I sent him the open.

Speaker 4 (52:38):
I sent him to open.
I sent him to open.
He sent that joint back thesame night.
She like, bro, that shit trash.
I said, bro, it don't matter.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
She really just playing around.
I'm like bro it don't matter ifit's trash.

Speaker 4 (52:53):
Mind you, he sent the open back in July.
Mind you, I got Rod and Brillon there at the time.
Rod Brill, it was going to beme, him, rod Brill.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
Us four, bro, that shit could have.

Speaker 4 (53:02):
We was going to shoot a pool party joint today.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
That shit was just going to win that shit could
have win?

Speaker 4 (53:05):
She ain't knew.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
She died.
Oh man, yo that shit trash bang.

Speaker 4 (53:10):
So we wait, bro.
We wait two months to shoot thevid.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
bro, we ain't drop the vid till our birthday.

Speaker 4 (53:24):
We ain what.
It went viral June.
By the time, august that TikTokthat shit over.
If this shit not one of themthat's going to keep keeping up.
That's why you got to drop thesong, why it's about to shoot,
so you can build leverage off ofit.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
Let me ask you all a question real quick.
Do y'all feel the same aboutTikTok now, though, like still
Right now?

Speaker 4 (53:40):
I feel like it got its wave, so right now it's the
Trippin' Out shit.
That shit heavy on TikTok rightnow.

Speaker 3 (53:46):
What's that Tripp Out , that Tripp Out?
Song Trippin' out Main man fromLouisiana.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
Bet, not run up on me .
If you do, then I'ma trip out,tripp, out, tripp.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
Out, trippin', trippin', tripp Out.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
Oh, you know, my man, I'm getting old oh my God, he
lost you all right, I don't knowwhat that is, bro.
You got a.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
Yeah, I know what that is.
That's that way.
That's that way, oh the dudewho came down here?

Speaker 4 (54:11):
Yeah, we got him on the ground.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
When you told me didn't.
I say I don't know, yeah, Idon't.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
Like bro, I'm hit that everything.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
I don't like TikTok bro.
I do not like TikTok bro.
Like that's like something gotto be popping in my city for me
to go on TikTok, anything else?
What's up baby?

Speaker 4 (54:30):
Mind you, all right bang.
So after that, all that wedidn't.
So basically, there's two hits,there's two good songs to waste
right now.
This is number two.
It was the third time, man.
It was the third time we gotthis joint, so it's called Twin
Bop.
We're going back and forth andshit, that shit.
We put it on TikTok again.

(54:52):
The party wave is not dead Now,this time, bro.
Bro this joint hit 500,000 vids.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
What 500,000.

Speaker 4 (54:59):
That's after what Come On was doing when we stick.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
That was the next hit , right there.

Speaker 4 (55:05):
Guess what A said Shit trash.

Speaker 3 (55:08):
I ain't gonna lie, mind you, we can't drop nothing
without A.
I ain't gonna lie, I wouldn'thave never, because we locked in
with A right now.
I wouldn't have never calledher after the first trash, like
after she said that first trash,I wouldn't have never even
liked.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
Well, bro, you got to understand what age they was.
That's why y'all keep sayingstuff, and I'm not like what,
because y'all just at a certainage where y'all just looking for
somebody to be like this, theone or I got you, or just that
Y'all not going to be like thislady don't know what the fuck
she at 17.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
They not going to be on that.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
Infrastructure.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
They still at the age where they want somebody to.
You feel what I'm saying,Because I just remember me being
an artist at that age.
Like it could be a person.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
no more, I'm going to keep it real, there's not even
no age on it, bro.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
It's really just being an artist people feel like
that, bro, it is bro when youlook, Because you just want to
worry about music bro, they justkeep giving you negative energy
every time you try and makesomething or go up.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
I'm cool.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
Listen.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
I'm just cool.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
If dumb young dudes do, they got their own money.
What the fuck is y'all talkingabout?
If they need money and backingand resources, and the people
who is them?

Speaker 2 (56:19):
people is for them, then they always going to look
to them like what you think itis or what you think they not
just going to be like yeah, theyain't 17, 18, bro.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
They had to do it.
They ain't got they, justgetting they diplomas from high
school.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
They had to do it like that, bro.
They thinking they had to do it.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
Yeah, like y'all thinking so hard Ain't making me
mad, so hard Ain't making memad, she making me mad, I don't
even want to talk about her nomore.

Speaker 3 (56:45):
When does she get the fuck?

Speaker 1 (56:46):
out.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
Let's get to that part.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
I don't even when she was out.
Let's get on that bro.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
When y'all jazzy just heard.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
Cause.
Y'all said like 10, 15 songsalready.
When the fuck she leaveYesterday.
What the fuck?
Fuck you got rid of heryesterday, when the fuck she
leave Yesterday.
What the fuck Fuck?
You got rid of her yesterday,why she still here?
She just said everything trashand TikTok views is saying boom,
boom, boom.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
this is not trash, this is not trash Like we got
the internet man, y'all didn'teven get Motown as much leeway.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
That's what I'm saying bro, not even All right.
So how many years was y'all?
It was a year or a half son,because it don't even a
three-year span.

Speaker 4 (57:25):
It was like a half a year.
We've been out there going on ayear yeah, like a year.
So we've been independent foralmost a year now.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
All right, so from today.
How long ago did y'all kick Ato the curb?

Speaker 4 (57:40):
A year ago.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
All right so when y'all kicked her to the curb.
So where y'all at now Like isthe reconnection with the brand
from the rip or.

Speaker 4 (57:51):
No, not from the rip, All right, so we've been
falling back, you feel me?
So in August what you call it,Come On, Head went viral again
Like 200,000 videos out ofnowhere.
It went viral again like200,000 videos out of nowhere.
Damn Like a different part ofthe song, though, not even the
come on part, the sipping onPepsi part.
That shit, everybody in theworld was literally buying a
Pepsi and Fanta just to make thevid, Sipping on Pepsi, that

(58:11):
shit was rolling, so that shitlike $200.
So our Spotify monthlylisteners, that shit shot up to
750 grand.
So we like whew, that shitrolling right now Bang.
So they hit us up.
They like yo, y'all just gottadrop, Y'all gotta drop.
Who hit y'all up?

Speaker 2 (58:29):
Kieran and me this is so different from when people
was making mixtapes and droppingCDs.

Speaker 4 (58:37):
Hold on hold on Go ahead.

Speaker 3 (58:39):
Y'all best hitters in front of y'all.

Speaker 4 (58:40):
Alright, so what so they like?

Speaker 3 (58:40):
yo just drop Y'all best hitters in front of y'all.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
Right, all right so what happened?

Speaker 4 (58:44):
They like yo, just drop, you feel me, just drop.
So we got, mind you, we still,we with my man Main over there,
we not signing nothing.
But he was like he like yo, Ibelieve in y'all, he believe in
us, make sure we was in thestudio and shit.
Yeah, like in the studio andshit, mm-hmm.

(59:04):
So in the midst of Come On, goInviter, we got this joint
called Blicky on him.
That joint, it did all right.
It did all right.
It did like 40K, it did allright.
But right around there that'swhen he called us, when we had
Blicky on him, we dropped Blickyon him.
That shot up a right.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
Now we just trying to figure out what's next, so that
was this year.

Speaker 4 (59:23):
Yeah, this was just this summer that just passed.
Come on, reewind viral.
You feel me I should hit like800 million, 800 million views
all over the world and y'all, Igot the screenshot 800 million
is ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
That was at 321 million.

Speaker 4 (59:38):
You're like bro this, and when they say, you know how
I say million, you're like bro,this shit is damn bro.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
And when they say you know how they say search views
in the last 28 days that shit'slike 325 million.

Speaker 4 (59:47):
I'm telling y'all bro listen this year.
This year you wouldn't evenknow because, mind you, we
independent, so we don't gotnobody.
That's going yo, this shitgoing viral.
Put him right here, put himright here.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
We independent, so we just watching.
We making our situation up bro.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
It's just like.

Speaker 4 (01:00:01):
And just go with the highest BPM.

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
Y'all your best hit is in front of you.
All y'all gotta do is keeprecording.
I'm telling you y'all gonnacatch it again.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
Yo, I'm gonna keep it real with you, bro, like real
rap bro.
I'm gonna keep it real with you, bro, and I promise myself, bro
, from that Lil Mook interviewbro that we had, I promise
myself, when I talk about stufflike this, bro, I'm going to
really like speak to, like acertain core of the people Like

(01:00:34):
yo, y'all older people got tostop fucking hating, bro.
Real rap, y'all got to stophating.
Because I'm hearing a lot oflittle stories where some young
boys is lit and doing theirthing and there's somebody
that's 10, 15 plus older thanthem hating bro.
That's pure hatred, bro.
All that sound like is a personwho wanted to do a certain thing

(01:00:56):
and see another person doing itand trying to cancel it or
trying to throw water on a fire,and all that like people gotta
stop hating, bro, and gottareally just respect.
It's just the young bulls turn.
It's just the young bulls turnand tick, tock the dancing.
All that, bro, like, even ifyou don't like it, even if

(01:01:17):
you're not a fan of it, whatever, it don't matter bro, you feel
what I'm saying.
Another thing is like.
Another thing is like this likey'all just heard it here from
these guys first, like three,three years ago these guys ran
the city damn near, you feel me,three years ago.
Everybody ages three and fourto 16 to 17.

(01:01:42):
So these is people who did it.
Also, like, if you are artistsand you in the position where
the people who believed in youwas behind you and you got this
person in your ear or thisperson in this corner, just
always go with your gut like,and just always like, remember
who believed in you and rememberwho you was coming up with.

(01:02:03):
Because once you get thrown inthat fire when they start
talking about percentages androyalties and publishing, y'all
can't, y'all can't, no, becausenow it's like y'all done already
, pushed them.
You feel me, but I'm notputting it on y'all that y'all
made them, it's done already.

(01:02:23):
But like a lot of people begoing through that, like they
get big headed or they electsome of these label heads who
want a little chop thepercentage and get something off
of it.
But it's like y'all know nowand that's a blessing that y'all
went through that and y'allonly 20.

Speaker 4 (01:02:41):
Because now y'all got your whole life, and that's why
we never get no more bro yeahonly 20 we.

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
I'm glad that shit happened yeah, yeah, telling you
you still y'all still got eachother and y'all got a chance.
Y'all best hit is in front ofy'all, not behind.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
Y'all is in front of y'all y'all did it like y'all
did it.
Y in front of y'all, robMarkman, right, rob Markman,
y'all did it Like y'all did it.
Y'all know, y'all got the musicsound and, oh yeah, that's
another thing I wanted to asky'all, right, rob Markman?
And when y'all was dropping andstuff right, being as though

(01:03:19):
the sound was changing, it was awhole bunch of critiquing.
You know how people just doextra critiquing, right?
That's just how the music scenein Philly is.
Rob Markman, facts, rob Markman, and a lot of people was saying
that they think y'all soundedlike d4m.
You feel what I'm saying?

(01:03:40):
Some similarities.
So how was that like being,though, because y'all song was
doing more than them at the time, for real, for real.
So how do y'all feel about like, how was that in that moment?
Like, did y'all, did y'all getsome stuff from them or was it
just like a?

Speaker 4 (01:04:00):
yeah, I'm a real nigga bro, I'm gonna pay homage,
you feel me yeah, that's what'sup, that's real, that's real
when I was in eighth, ninthgrade.
That's who we was listening to.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
You feel me yeah, you have a bump in the slum.
Yeah, fire man Y'all ever bumpinto Sloan Deacon and all that.
Yeah, yeah, y'all met.

Speaker 4 (01:04:16):
Siano.
No, I ain't met Siano.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
Y'all ain't met Siano .

Speaker 4 (01:04:19):
Right after he passed , I already met Siano.

Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
Okay, okay.

Speaker 4 (01:04:23):
Sloan called us out for a music video and shit.
Fire, he's like no, I need thisbefore we even made music TLA
and all that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
Sloan Thurl man.

Speaker 4 (01:04:33):
We locked in with Sloan before.

Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
Sloan Thurl.
That's what's up.
That's what's up.
That's fire.
I wasn't.
I never.
Did anybody ever ask y'all that.

Speaker 4 (01:04:43):
What like no, no, Nobody really asked us that no.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
Okay, okay, no, because I just wanted to know
that, because I definitelyremember at that time when that
song dropped and everybody wascritiquing it and everything.

Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
Rob Markman.
It's the Real of the MostPodcast.
Make sure you share, like,subscribe, comment If you don't
you a motherfucking hater.

Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
Why?
Because it's free man.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
Rob Markman.
And look, before we continue, Ijust want to know how did y'all
feel at the moment when y'allwas in that deal with the
management.
Do y'all feel like that waslike, she was like?

Speaker 4 (01:05:23):
I feel like that shit .
Was you talking about how hermusic?

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
career was going to go yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:05:28):
I feel like that shit was over, bro.
Depression is real.
I was in a state of mind whereit was like, bro, this shit
can't be happening right now.

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
I wanted y'all to say that, because there's a lot of
people that be going throughthese things.

Speaker 4 (01:05:41):
This shit can't be happening right now.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
So what kicked in to say yo, we ain't going out like
this.

Speaker 4 (01:05:47):
Because before we met her we was them niggas, so we
still them niggas.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
Right, just because we can't pass you Not them
niggas, not them niggas, yo themniggas.
And I'm just saying likeAnytime we pop out, we them
niggas.
Y'all blessed bro, Y'all got toreally look at that situation
and I'm going to tell y'all whyy'all got to look at that.
It's a blessing Even that whaty'all went through.

(01:06:11):
I'm going to tell y'all why.
That's not even bad, that's notan l and it's a blessing, right
, you see, cuz he pushing 40 andand on the internet spazzing,
he learning what y'all learnedat 18 and his fort in his 30s.
It's too late.
It's too late.
Like now he got just spads tryto change it and hit.

(01:06:33):
Y'all learned that in highschool.
Feel what I'm saying?
Like it going to be stuff thatpeople learning in their 30s and
40s about the music business.
Y'all learned in high school,bro, With A Feel what I'm saying
.
So that's a blessing, bro.
That mean y'all get to go intoyour 20s early, mid late, all

(01:06:55):
that and know about the musicbusiness.
You feel me Like y'all can'teven blow up and sign and yo, we
went through this when we were,so now we know, Feel what I'm
saying.
So it's just like yeah, bro,that's a good thing and that's
really a blessing.
And I'm not just saying thatLike when they say you take L's

(01:07:18):
as lessons, like no, that ain'teven a lesson.
That's a real blessing becausenow y'all know and y'all got
people who love y'all that waswith y'all, even though splits
happened.
But they seen what happened, sonow they like we not never
gonna let this oh, wait, wait,wait young boys.
Again, you feel I'm, I'm sayingIs it over?

Speaker 4 (01:07:34):
What the last?
Yeah, yeah, that shit over Likecompletely yeah, that shit over
it's over.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
So was it signing?
Was it contracts with thatperson, though?

Speaker 4 (01:07:44):
Yeah, it was a management contract.

Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
It was like a management contract.

Speaker 4 (01:07:48):
So we really just had to pay off a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:07:49):
They just basically got a percentage off.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
And he got rid of that.

Speaker 4 (01:07:58):
Yeah, he get rid of that shit.
Rob Markman, y'all probably,like we should have been, did
this shit.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
It wasn't like she had to recoup anything because
she didn't do shit.
Rob Markman Right, yeah, RobMarkman Ain't pay for no videos
like that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, rob Markman.
So what was y'all getting likestudio sessions?

Speaker 4 (01:08:11):
We was getting studio sessions and videos.

Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
Okay, no rollouts, no .

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
So all right, so let me ask.

Speaker 4 (01:08:19):
And then the music videos was bullshit.
They running guns.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
So y'all was on some, y'all was just shaking the dice
for real.

Speaker 3 (01:08:27):
Yeah, y'all was shooting for the hip.

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
They was shooting for the hip.
Y'all was past that.
Y'all was past that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
So, all right, let me ask y'all this right, this is
like a temperature check, john.
I ain't gonna lie, because Ijust remember, when I was at
that age, the little nutty stuffI used to do when I knew I made
a mistake or when I didn't wantto approve something because I
wasn't a man, yetach somethingBecause I wasn't like a man.
Yet you feel what I'm saying.
So I want to ask this how waswhat the conversation was like

(01:09:06):
and what was like the energywhen Like having a conversation
with a female.

Speaker 4 (01:09:11):
Like having a conversation with a female.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
No, no, no.

Speaker 1 (01:09:16):
When y'all had to come back home.

Speaker 4 (01:09:18):
Come back home oh.
Like when y'all had to come on.

Speaker 1 (01:09:21):
That wasn't working out.
Y'all all right, but come backhome.

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
We was being bad, was it after our interview?
Yeah, keep it real.

Speaker 4 (01:09:28):
Yo, yo look, Keep it real, was it really?

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
the most interview.

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
I want to know how they because I know, when I used
to do that stuff I was 18, 19,and I used to do little weird
stuff and I used to like act soweird, to like say, to like say
sorry or something.
Oh man, it was our, it was ourjob.

(01:09:53):
That's crazy, damn.
You wasn't here for that one.
Fuck you, smiley Boy.
You missed it.
You're not part of this.

Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
Shut up pussy Damn.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
That's crazy, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
So it was just on some they see the interviews.
Come on.
It wasn't never, really no itwasn't.

Speaker 4 (01:10:17):
no, it wasn't never, really no, it wasn't no beef, it
wasn't no stabbing Rob Markman.

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
No, no, no, no.
I'm saying it wasn't really.
No, it wasn't no times wherethey were like but wow, why
y'all feel like y'all had Y'allain't never had it.
Y'all.

Speaker 4 (01:10:31):
Rob Markman.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
Sorry that'sas know.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
What's understood ain't got to be explained, ain't
got to be explained yup, yup,because I'm going to keep it
real with you yo, I'm going tokeep it real yo it always be
like.
This podcasting thing is crazybecause, it's always be the ones
where we be like thinking likewe just going to talk about one

(01:10:57):
specific like probably like thatsong and what, how they messed
up, or that song, and then butit's like y'all really don't
even know, like same thing.
I ain't trying to keep bringinghim up in here, but this, the
same thing that that's going todo.
We had to talk to uh, death jam, uh, anrs and and, and we had

(01:11:22):
to have phone calls with fivedifferent people in philly who
got the ball, all because of ussaying facts in the interview.
Yo, what happened?
He was a, he wasn't of age.
What happened?
Oh, y'all, y'all, fucking tri,y'all wasn't supposed to do that
.
That's against the law.
And then the water blew.
Like we had to, bro, we was onphones for months.

(01:11:46):
Oh, y'all saw that.
Y'all, bro, we was on the phonewith people for a month Every
Wednesday, like just because wesaid, said, if they did that,
they wrong.
Yeah, why he can't tell hisstory.
But luckily, but luckily, thethe situation that y'all was in

(01:12:10):
day right here, now, now, now, Idon't know about a, but if,
like that, that the same thingthat happened to us, a, could be
on some A shit, and say certainthings it's going to happen.
Yeah, but it's like, bro, theybe nutty though I know A.
They be nutty, though.
Nutty bro, Bro, bro, I know Athey be nutty bro and they be

(01:12:34):
mad because this is Will it orMost, and we not going to be on
some Bro.
They be mad, Bro, I know.

Speaker 3 (01:12:43):
A bro, how you know A .

Speaker 1 (01:12:48):
Bro, stop playing with me, bro, how you know A.

Speaker 3 (01:12:51):
How you know A All right.

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
Look at Will it or Most most we play some games up
here.
Yeah, we gonna take it to theno.
No.

Speaker 1 (01:12:59):
Soon as y'all start Saying certain shit, that's when
I knew I caught on.
When y'all start saying Certainshit, that's Chad, that's Chad,
yeah bro, I peep from the rip.
I peep from the rip.
But no, listen bro, we gladthat y'all was able to rise out
the mud, brush the mud off.

(01:13:19):
You mean y'all trophies, y'alldiamonds in the rough.
Facts and y'all was able to bethe trophies y'all.
Seriously, People tried to dipy'all in the mud.

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
And I'm glad y'all get to talk too.
Y'all get to talk and speakabout what y'all need to speak
about up here.
You know what I'm glad y'allget to talk too.

Speaker 4 (01:13:35):
Y'all get to talk and speak about what y'all need to
speak about up here.
You know what I'm saying.
I'm real to most.
How long we had that shit onour chest, bro?
Yeah, nobody know about thatshit.

Speaker 3 (01:13:43):
And all y'all got to do is just keep working that
shit.
Really there for y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
Y'all can come up here anytime.

Speaker 3 (01:13:53):
I want to.

Speaker 2 (01:13:53):
You'all.
I want to ask y'all, before weget out of here, like moving
forward, how we moving now?
What's the team?
Are y'all able to sign a newdeal Right now?
Y'all waiting it out.
What's going on moving forward?

Speaker 4 (01:14:10):
We on dog shit bro.

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
Damn.
I like that we on dog shit.

Speaker 4 (01:14:14):
We hungry.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
Tell them what you mean when you say that dog shit.
It's time for us to start mindweeping these motherfuckers now
Like we want this yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
Not you give us this, we want this.
Yeah, type shit.
Like this is our time, so wejust going to work.
Y'all know, dog, my word, yeah,yeah.
Like ain't y'all going to bedisciplined this time, like
that's something I saydiscipline on grinding dog.
Like y'all going to be realdisciplined this time, because
y'all already know how theselabels coming and y'all know who

(01:14:44):
, the ones who really want y'allto do what and the ones who
believed in y'all from the jump.

Speaker 2 (01:14:49):
Because if y'all would have been taking them
songs to the brand, it wouldhave been oh, I know what to do
with this.

Speaker 1 (01:14:55):
You know what I'm saying the whole thing is when
you, when you sign with peopleyou really gotta look into like,
like, like like are they doing?

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
the same thing that you're looking for.
You feel me, or like do theybelieve in what y'all doing?
You know I'm saying so.
They could push forward withy'all at the same time because
it's a team effort anyway whenyou would have a label you know.

Speaker 1 (01:15:21):
And one more thing too, before we get into these.
Hold on, before I go aheadmajor.

Speaker 3 (01:15:26):
I just want to give y'all some some more game before
we get out of here.
Major labels they don't really.
Unless you like a top 100, top20, top top 50 billboard chart
artists, they don't really payattention to you.

Speaker 1 (01:15:40):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:15:41):
So it'd be the subsidiary label, the brand that
they pay attention to and get acheck to, to get it y' all, so
y'all could do y'all thing.

Speaker 1 (01:15:49):
Yup correct.
They're not really payingattention they're not really
worried about you.
That's just like I ain't gonnatalk too much, but that's just
like.
That's just like, like, like,like I ain't going to talk too
much, but that's just like.
People started leaving 300Entertainment because y'all got
all these people who used tofatty wops and all that and all
that and, but young, young thuggot a big ass office where Dolly

(01:16:13):
White and Gunna and all themjust chilling, they just making
all this bread.
Y'all just care about them somuch.
But y'all got all these other300 artists.
Now they dropping.
Now they dropping.
Now Thug go to jail.
Kevin Lyle's on the standtalking about he's my son.
You ain't doing that for nobodyelse.
On 300.
You talking about he's my son.

(01:16:34):
How the fuck he ain't, thoughwhat?

Speaker 3 (01:16:36):
are you talking about ?
And he stepped down.

Speaker 1 (01:16:39):
Yeah, he did that for Thug, then stepped down Just
because he know Thug in homecash cow.
But the point I was trying tomake was, like Motel at that
time, like 2020, that's whenRich Homey, Quan and them was on
Motel.
I think that's when Quavo andall them split with QCP and all
them and they got with Motel.

(01:17:00):
Yeah, like they, Motel wasrolling around that time like
they was rolling.

Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
Qcp is with Motel yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
Yeah, bro.
I remember it was like one ofthem years where Motown just
started.

Speaker 4 (01:17:19):
Because I think Never Broke.

Speaker 1 (01:17:20):
Again.
Deal was with Motown.

Speaker 3 (01:17:23):
I swear, but that was the same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:17:25):
I'm going to keep it real.
Some of the major labels.
They jump into a wave and theydon't know what to do with
artists.
Sometimes they like all right,what to do next?
Y'all the ones that got itpopping.

Speaker 1 (01:17:34):
Yeah, with certain artists.
But I just wanted to say thatbecause I vividly remember
T-Grizzly Fetty Wap.
All these people who signed tothe 300 was like we just can't
do nothing when Thug dropsomething or he, it don't even
matter that, we signed becauseall of you know what I mean.
Go to him, you feel me.

(01:17:55):
We signed because all of youmean go to him, you feel me.
So yeah, bro.

Speaker 4 (01:18:04):
I really, I really enjoyed this, this, this, this
pod man.

Speaker 1 (01:18:05):
And like I said y'all went through.
What y'all need to go throughis music artists.
You feel me.
So y'all are good, y'all in theright hands.
Y'all know the people behind.
Y'all got y'all back.
And what I was going to saybefore we get into the games is
I also grew up with the brand,like Kier and all of them, like

(01:18:32):
I've known them since we waskids.
So I seen the brand get made hereally did and I seen how big
they was on Lil Uti, like thepeople that Carey was around
when he made the brand.
He's still around them Everyday and they still tight.
So you, having a team like that, like shit like that, don't
even exist a lot.
Feel what I'm saying, becausethey really the only people in

(01:18:53):
our hood who's still stickingtogether.
A team like that, shit likethat don't even exist a lot.
Right, rob Markman Jr?
Feel what I'm saying, becausethey really the only people in
our hood who still stickingtogether, like everybody from
All the rest of the people fromour hood we all dispersed.
They the only ones stilltogether.
And that's big when it come topeople backing you on the music,
because they going to treaty'all the same way.

(01:19:13):
Feel what I'm saying.
Yeah, rob Markman, becausethey're going to treat y'all the
same way.
Feel what I'm saying.
But yeah, man, we real happythat y'all came up here.
We was able to have thisknowledgeable question-answering
pod, feel me, and we appreciatey'all, but let's keep y'all for

(01:19:35):
five more minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:19:36):
Yeah, let's go get a little dark all right on on here
.
Really, the most we play thislittle game it ain't not too
crazy.
It's called fast track.
You pick one or the otherbecause we're in philly.
I like to start with this one.

Speaker 1 (01:19:48):
Major figures or state property they do not know
who Major Figures is.
I know State.
Property they do not know whoMajor Figures is bro.

Speaker 2 (01:19:57):
Gilly the Kid.
Did you lose your head in him?
No, gilly the Kid.

Speaker 4 (01:20:03):
My boy really don't be up for it Once he said Major
Figures.

Speaker 1 (01:20:07):
I'm like oh my God, what Bro?
These niggas was born afterState Property broke up.
You talking about major figures, yeah I don't know nothing
about the chain gang or none ofthat.
What they just said they was inhigh school and kovid you talk

(01:20:28):
about major figures.
They just said they was a highschool when kovid hit this nigga
crazy Mika Quilly something.

Speaker 3 (01:20:41):
We gonna do Joey Jahad, read dollars.
He did it again.

Speaker 1 (01:20:47):
He did it again.

Speaker 3 (01:20:49):
I'm too young.
Joey Jahad bro, we gonna go.
I heard little shit, I heardlittle shit.

Speaker 4 (01:20:54):
I heard little shit.

Speaker 1 (01:20:55):
No, let's do it.
I heard little shit.

Speaker 2 (01:20:56):
That's crazy.
I heard little shit Bro 2010 isup.
All right, come on, we gon' go,we gon' go.

Speaker 3 (01:21:04):
We gon' go.

Speaker 2 (01:21:05):
They already know me because he signed.

Speaker 3 (01:21:07):
Sloan or what's the other one Flashy, what's the?

Speaker 1 (01:21:11):
what's yeah either or .
It could be off of anything,style, music, whatever you want.
Sloan, sloan, okay.

Speaker 3 (01:21:20):
All right, wow, that's a crazy job Chief Keef or
Lord Dirt.

Speaker 1 (01:21:27):
Because y'all was born in 04, right yeah, All
right.
Oh my God, no.
Chief Keef said a differentthing it depends.

Speaker 4 (01:21:33):
With that drill shit I feel like it's Chief On the
drill side it's Chief, but thatpaint shit is definitely Chief.
Would you ask him Chief?

Speaker 3 (01:21:39):
Chief Keef or Lord Dirt.

Speaker 4 (01:21:40):
Who y'all got.
I like Dirt On the drill side.

Speaker 1 (01:21:43):
it's Keef, but you gotta pick one though.

Speaker 4 (01:21:46):
Dirt.

Speaker 1 (01:21:47):
I'm gonna go with Chief Keef.

Speaker 3 (01:21:51):
All right man.

Speaker 1 (01:21:55):
You could do, mika Quilly, go ahead bro.

Speaker 4 (01:21:58):
You could do that.
They know that.

Speaker 1 (01:21:59):
That's the only thing you could do, fart, that's the
furthest back you could do.
They know that, mika Quilly,that's the furthest Anything
before that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:07):
No, hell, yeah they know that Mika Quilly.

Speaker 4 (01:22:10):
Mika Bro.
I've been crying for this song.
I still been crying for thissong.

Speaker 1 (01:22:18):
Oh, alright, alright, I'm trying to give him an
interesting one.
Alright, Damn.
Shit damn, this is crazy bro.

Speaker 2 (01:22:32):
I'm trying to stay Philly.
It was a high school with COVID.

Speaker 3 (01:22:36):
Yeah, that was crazy bro.

Speaker 1 (01:22:38):
You gotta say Tory Lanez and somebody, alright
alright, alright, alright, lookTor or Cor, mmm, yeah, cor.

Speaker 4 (01:22:50):
Cor.
Yeah, I'm not going with Cor.

Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
Alright now, I know.
Alright Now, since y'all, Iknow where to hit y'all.

Speaker 4 (01:22:55):
Alright, bet Alright.
I know where we at now.

Speaker 1 (01:22:56):
I know where.
All right Now, since y'all Iknow where to hit y'all.
All right, bet, all right.
I know where we at now.
I know where we at now.
All right, damn Kwani or LeafWard, there we go, leaf, yeah,
okay, okay.
Okay, damn man, that's aAlright, alright.

(01:23:22):
Oh man, brilliant, I do my shit.
Who y'all fuck with Brill andRod?

Speaker 4 (01:23:32):
Which one y'all Like on the rap tip.
Yeah, Rap tip.

Speaker 1 (01:23:36):
Anything, anything y'all want it to be, just having
like a Anything y'all like onthe right, yeah, right anything,
anything I wanted to be having,like anything y'all wanted to
be.

Speaker 4 (01:23:41):
No, that's a mutual, both of them.

Speaker 1 (01:23:42):
Well, who y'all pick though?

Speaker 4 (01:23:44):
Rap, shit gotta be, bro, but with the concepts and
the smartness is definitelyright.

Speaker 1 (01:23:49):
Okay, all right.
All right, we could go in theshe a little bit now.

Speaker 2 (01:23:56):
We did enough.

Speaker 1 (01:23:57):
Philly Johns Future or Thug.

Speaker 4 (01:24:11):
I don't listen to Thug so I got to go with Future.
I don't really listen to Thug.

Speaker 1 (01:24:13):
You don't listen to Thug.

Speaker 4 (01:24:14):
I'm going to go with Thug.

Speaker 3 (01:24:16):
Okay okay, lil Baby or 4-.

Speaker 4 (01:24:18):
listen to that I'm going with that.

Speaker 1 (01:24:21):
Ain't my type of music.
Ok, ok, lil Baby, or 402 Dug,lil Baby, lil Baby.
All right, niggas Chuckle, I'mlike what?

Speaker 3 (01:24:26):
Chuckle.

Speaker 2 (01:24:26):
What Doug like the realest of these.

Speaker 4 (01:24:28):
You ain't comparing to him.

Speaker 1 (01:24:31):
Huh, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, all right.
Who y'all like out of Damn?
I want hard Philly Jones.

Speaker 3 (01:24:45):
Sexy, sexy, sexy red or Glorilla.

Speaker 4 (01:24:51):
Glorilla Lyrically.
Glorilla Lyrically LooksGlorilla.

Speaker 1 (01:25:00):
That ain't there, man .

Speaker 2 (01:25:02):
I'm an old head bro.
That's what I'm like.

Speaker 1 (01:25:04):
No, no, I know people , but you got to match them up,
good.

Speaker 3 (01:25:09):
Real right.

Speaker 4 (01:25:10):
Feel me it ain't a lot of people who could be
Philly artists.
That's what I listen to.

Speaker 1 (01:25:15):
I'm trying to figure out who to match with Tierra
Whack.
I'm trying to figure out who tomatch with Tierra Whack.

Speaker 3 (01:25:18):
I'm trying to figure out who to match with Rocky.
How about this?
How about this, right here?
How about this one right herewho?
What's the fuck was his name?
Who?

Speaker 2 (01:25:36):
How you gonna say he got one and then say what's his
name?

Speaker 3 (01:25:39):
um who, how you gonna say he got one of this no um
rico have it.
Uh, rico have it.
Or uh, what's the other one?
Um, no, not drew boy.
What's the other one?
Court was not Drew boy.
What's the other one?
What is it Cory Flocker?
Or something like that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:58):
Cory.

Speaker 4 (01:25:58):
Flocker.

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
Like in a dancing suit, like on a dancing suit.
Cory Cory, he's the best in thecity.
Cory Flocker, he's the best inthe city.

Speaker 4 (01:26:10):
He's the best in the city.
No bro what he's the best inthe city.

Speaker 1 (01:26:13):
I think Rod better than him.
Who Rod?
I think Rod better than him.
Bro, y'all really watching Bro.
I grew up with Corey Flocker,bro.

Speaker 4 (01:26:23):
Rico, don't dance, no more.

Speaker 1 (01:26:25):
And if he do, if he did.

Speaker 4 (01:26:27):
that's different, but I feel like he don't take it as
seriously as Corey did.

Speaker 1 (01:26:31):
Corey Flocker, crazy Corey Flocker or DJ Crazy.
Yeah, yeah, corey.

Speaker 4 (01:26:38):
No, I'm trying to tell you this I've seen him
dance.
I've seen him dance.
I've seen him dance Go dancemove, dance move.
Corey Bro.
I've seen Hef hit 15 flaresLike what are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (01:26:52):
V tell him bro.
I've seen Hef hit 15 flares,bro Corey Flocker ain't hit 15
flares before, bro you can't.

Speaker 4 (01:27:02):
I can pull that shit up on YouTube right now, but
they made all this.
That shit was called Habs.

Speaker 1 (01:27:09):
No, that was my era, but Habs was the best dancer in
that era.
He was better than them backthen.

Speaker 4 (01:27:15):
Yeah, Habs.

Speaker 1 (01:27:15):
Yeah, habs, he was better than them.
Yeah, in that era.
Yeah, yeah, I'm talking aboutnow I don't know, had Mike still
got him If he pursued, if he.
But right now, to me, out ofall this dance and stuff that's
going on, I like Rod overeverybody, rod yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:27:36):
Rod Like when he dance bro.

Speaker 2 (01:27:37):
He really Him.
And.

Speaker 1 (01:27:39):
Moosey yeah, Him and Moosey yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:27:41):
Moosey, moosey got it .

Speaker 1 (01:27:43):
He an animal who out of them two, rod or Moosey,
dancing-wise.

Speaker 4 (01:27:48):
Rod, do that Jersey shit.
I feel like Rod over Mooseywith the Jersey shit.

Speaker 1 (01:27:51):
Okay, rye got more moves, rye got a.

Speaker 4 (01:27:53):
Philly dancer Rye, don't ting he, not a tinger Okay
.

Speaker 1 (01:27:56):
You don't say Rye ting.

Speaker 4 (01:27:57):
Yeah, rye, don't ting .

Speaker 1 (01:27:59):
Y'all know the young boy Key.

Speaker 2 (01:28:01):
What's the ting part, what's ting.

Speaker 1 (01:28:02):
Ting who, ting, all right Rye.

Speaker 2 (01:28:09):
Y'all said Rye don't ting.

Speaker 4 (01:28:11):
This nigga said ting he, ting he.
Not tough, we're going to behonest he not tough.

Speaker 1 (01:28:16):
Who Bro his dance?

Speaker 4 (01:28:16):
Because he learning.

Speaker 1 (01:28:18):
He learning, he still learning.

Speaker 2 (01:28:19):
All that other dancing shit.

Speaker 4 (01:28:20):
He got that shit.
Yeah, all that other dancingbreak bump I don't know bro.
You got to compare Moosey tolike Spence, spence, spence.

Speaker 1 (01:28:28):
All right, moosey or Spence.

Speaker 4 (01:28:30):
Who swag?

Speaker 1 (01:28:31):
All that yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:28:34):
What Spence is number one in that shit.

Speaker 1 (01:28:37):
I don't know bro, hey white boy give me a recap.

Speaker 2 (01:28:40):
real quick, man, we're going to wrap it up.
This is really the most podcast.
Make sure you share, like,subscribe, comment if you don't.

Speaker 1 (01:28:47):
We got to do another game though.

Speaker 2 (01:28:48):
You already know.

Speaker 1 (01:28:49):
One guy go, one guy go.

Speaker 2 (01:28:51):
Oh yeah, let's do the one guy go real quick.
This going to tie them up.
Look, look, look, it's theopposite.

Speaker 1 (01:28:55):
I'm going to say four names and one guy go All right,
yeah.
Yeah, all right, I'm going todo it like this Leaf Tor, leaf
Tor.

Speaker 3 (01:29:14):
Cor and Kwani.
One guy to go, one guy to goLeaf.

Speaker 1 (01:29:16):
Tor bro Kw, kwani One got to go, one got to go Leaf
tour bro Kwani.

Speaker 4 (01:29:20):
For real Bro.
Nah we talking about real bars.

Speaker 2 (01:29:22):
We talking about real bars.
They connected, bro.
We talking about bars.

Speaker 4 (01:29:26):
Some shit is going to hit you like kwani Some shit is
going to hit you like this, buttour hit you like what is he
talking about?
All right, no you, what is?

Speaker 1 (01:29:32):
he talking about Rob Markman, the King of the Kings.
Rob Markman, the King of theKings.
Rob Markman, the King of theKings.
Rob Markman, the King of theKings.
Rob Markman, the King of theKings.

Speaker 4 (01:29:38):
Rob.

Speaker 2 (01:29:38):
Markman, the King of the Kings.

Speaker 1 (01:29:38):
Rob Markman, the King of the Kings.
Rob Markman, the King of theKings.
Rob Markman, the King of theKings.

Speaker 2 (01:29:50):
Rob Markman the King of the Kings Too rare.
Yeah, too rare, damn.

Speaker 4 (01:29:54):
Rare got his ass, though, but we're not ass, but
we're not better than them, raregotta go Rare, gotta go yeah,
rare, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:30:03):
All right, we gonna do one more.

Speaker 2 (01:30:04):
They thorough they answering these though.

Speaker 1 (01:30:06):
My man got somewhere to go, we gonna do one more, I
know where to go.
We gonna do one more.
What you talking about, wegonna do do one more, I'm here.
We're going to do one more.
We're going to do one more,let's see Down south.
Alright, alright, like Newark.

(01:30:29):
So we're going to do the future, the future, we going to the
future.

Speaker 3 (01:30:47):
I don't really.
He goes down there to thefuture baby.

Speaker 1 (01:30:53):
All right, yeah, the future Little baby.
All right, yeah, Thug FutureLil Baby.
Damn Shit like this be hard.
Like the newer shit, Like shitlike this be hard.
All right, all right.

(01:31:14):
All right, I think I can seethat with y'all.
The future little baby Gucci, Ithink I could see that.

Speaker 2 (01:31:27):
No no no, don't put Gucci in there.

Speaker 4 (01:31:29):
Gucci with your body.

Speaker 2 (01:31:31):
Gucci with your cause Gucci with your body, tia, and
all those type.
No, he can't go in that mix.
Gucci can't go in that mix.

Speaker 1 (01:31:39):
Nah, nah, rich Homie, kwine, you got all these other
boys.
Y'all not about to say my bands, I'm not about to say Kwine,
y'all niggas tripping.

Speaker 2 (01:31:47):
It gotta be, it gotta be like a Kwine it gotta be
what YFN Lucci.

Speaker 1 (01:31:55):
It could have been YFN Lucci.
Alright, lil Baby Thug FutureSomebody else Don't say.

Speaker 4 (01:32:02):
Quan though Lucci, lucci.

Speaker 2 (01:32:07):
He just booked right now, right yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:32:11):
I don't like Thug music.
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (01:32:14):
So this the really the most podcast.
This the really the mostpodcast.
Y'all hear that I don't likethe music for real.
Oh my God, All right, so thisis the Realest and Most Podcast.
This is the Realest and.

Speaker 1 (01:32:21):
Most Podcast.
Y'all just fuck everything up.
Y'all just fuck everything upbro.
I'm out of real care.
Don't fuck everything up bro.
Real bad bro, Listen to me, bro, bro, bro, I'm talking to you
bro.
I'm not saying he not hot likethe song he got with people I
listen to.

Speaker 4 (01:32:33):
Y'all really trying to go viral today.
Y'all really trying to go viral, y'all really trying to go
viral.

Speaker 3 (01:32:35):
Y'all really trying to go viral.
Y'all really trying to go viral.

Speaker 1 (01:32:37):
Y'all really trying to go viral.
Y'all really trying to go viral.
Y'all really trying to go viral.

Speaker 4 (01:32:49):
Y'all really trying to go viral, y'all really trying
to don't say on camera.

Speaker 3 (01:32:53):
It's the Rilla the Moose Podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:32:55):
I'm Rilla, I'm out of world.
I'm white boy D2A we out.
Keep it, rilla, the Moose weout.

Speaker 3 (01:33:06):
Rilla the Moose Podcast.