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The struggles of Philadelphia artists trying to break through the city's "fake politics" takes center stage as Lee Mazin joins Rilla and Moose for a deeply personal conversation about resilience in the face of industry obstacles.

Lee Mazin's story is one of extraordinary promise and painful setbacks. From freestyling on trolleys as a teenager to signing with Meek Mill's Dream Chasers within a year of seriously pursuing rap, her explosive rise was followed by a series of devastating roadblocks. "I've been through a lot with this music shit," she confesses with striking candor. "This shit really drove me suicidal." Her revelation speaks volumes about the mental health toll that industry politics can take on artists, particularly those from cities where hometown support remains elusive.

What makes this conversation particularly compelling is Lee's analysis of Philadelphia's support system compared to other hip-hop hubs. "New York niggas, Trina, all of them throwing it up on the story," she explains about her viral Timberland freestyle, "Nobody from here posted it." This pattern of hometown indifference contrasted with outsider appreciation becomes a recurring theme as she recounts her experiences in Atlanta and LA, where strangers showed her more love than many in her own city.

Beyond music, Lee's entrepreneurial spirit shines through as she discusses diversifying her income through a printing company, luxury vehicle rentals, and her Chosen One Records label. Her business acumen has allowed her to maintain independence while navigating industry challenges – a testament to her adaptability and determination to succeed on her own terms.

As she prepares for her musical comeback with what she describes as a "loaded" arsenal of new music, Lee's passion remains undimmed despite everything she's faced. Follow her journey at @LeeMazin across platforms – this is one Philadelphia comeback story you won't want to miss.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Real it in motion Lock hands.
Real it in motion.
Real it in motion.
It ain't there.
Outro Music Shout out to theRilla and Moose podcast.

(00:42):
You already know how we doingit we thugging it.
Let's get free to it.
Rilla and Red, this is yourtape in with the pod man, yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Rilla and Moose man.
Yeah, Tap into the Rilla andMoose podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Rilla and Most Podcast.
I'm Rilla, I'm WhiteboyD2A, andtoday we got family in the
building.
I ain't gonna say specialguests.
You know what I'm saying.
We got family in the buildingtoday.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
And it's real special today, man yeah, so how you
want to do this, white boy.
There's only one way to do it.
It's the right way the most wayyeah, man, you already know how
you feeling today.
I feel good, bro.
Yeah, yeah, working.
You know what I'm saying, right?
Yeah, 10 tools down the I'll beout interview.

(01:42):
Crazy bro.
I can't wait for the people toget that.
Oh my gosh, yo Acor we got toslow down.
No, we working that shit, donot stop.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Foot on.
They neck.
You hear me, you know what Imean.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Shit, do not stop you hear me 90 going north.
You already know Facts.
Listen man Today, listen mantoday's guest she's a workaholic
.
You know what I'm saying,especially when it comes to
these bars.
A hustler, she put it together.
Man Hustler, she come up withdifferent avenues of ways to get

(02:16):
it.
She set different trends.
You know what I'm saying.
She one of the first femaleartists.
That was like real like puttogether in the city.
You feel me Like when it cometo like yeah, establishment.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
Yeah, yeah, you feel me.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
Yeah, for sure, yeah, man, we got Lee Mazin in the
building, man.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
We in the building yo .

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Family.
What's up, Talia?
Not Talia, not the governmentwhat it do, man Yo.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
What's up y'all this?

Speaker 1 (02:45):
family man In the rundown not done yet I ain't
going front.
We ain't even done the rundownthough it's really like an honor
to have you up here and sincewe started the pod your name
definitely been high on the list, Like we've been good.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
So we on your third season.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Yeah, that's love how many shows we in white boy
Right now like off top.
If you think Off top like onesthat's not out too right.
Yeah, probably like 92.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
Dang it.
Y'all about to hit 100.
Y'all got to celebrate the 100.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
Yep, it's coming, it's coming up.
Yeah, we going to keep loadingup this clip.
You hear me, yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
Make me like 95 or something I need like a good
number.
It's happening fast.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
Yeah, he ain't ask me how I feel today, how you feel
we just focused on.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
White.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
Boy.
I guess oh my gosh, you know, Ifeel you know a little bit like
how you want to say this man, Ifeel like a boxer right now.
Yeah, like I feel like a boxerright now.
Yeah, I feel like I want a beltthough.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yeah, I feel like that right now.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Yeah, I mean, when a boxer won a championship match,
what else for him to do?
You know what I'm saying?
He got to flex.
That's how you feeling.
Yeah, yo, I like that.
We ain't even start yet.
Yeah, we ain't even start yet.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying,but uh, how you feeling I'm

(04:12):
feeling good, I'm here with thefam.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Uh huh, we about to get into some things.
I know y'all got some, somegood questions and all that yeah
.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
This is the first this is the first.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
This is the first interview I did in the city, in
in like years, yeah, damn, yeah,I'm honored.
Yeah, me too, I'm honored metoo years.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
I'm honored.
So who was the last person youdid like a interview with?

Speaker 3 (04:36):
I can't even tell you , I don't even know probably
like some part 99, like thatwith one of them.
How about that cut somebodylike that yeah and so like that.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
So then, now that you even say that and like the game
done shifted in so many waysand you got these broadcast
services, podcasts and new waysto get information.
So like I really want like thepeople to understand, like why
this, why this interview was bigfor us.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
In a way that it be informative to the people.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
Oh man, you already know.
You know what I'm saying.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
Everything be, To be honest with you, we reach to be
informative, right?
You know what I'm saying.
So it's always good to speak onyour truth.
No, for sure you know what I'msaying Because you don't want
the next person going through it.
Yeah, especially if you canspeak on it.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
That's vital right now too.
Like we need that yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
No, because I'm all about like learning, like all
right.
So if I'm going through lifeand there's an obstacle in front
of me and my brother beenthrough it before and I I could
learn from him or learn fromlistening to him or watching him
, then that's what I'ma do.
I'm not about to like.
You see what I'm saying Likepeople wanna take the hard route

(05:50):
.
For what?

Speaker 3 (05:51):
Yeah, right, that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yeah, so we gonna get into it today yo.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
I try to figure out why I'm the only one that got
the drip.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Oh, I mean, I could pour I could pour up, but you
know the label and the water.
But you know the white boy ontop of things around here.
I mean I'll take a shot withyou.
For sure it's Lee.
I got to, I do that.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
I don't know, you know, we really don't.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
I mean we got shot back there.
Shot the pour it up.
You know we really don't bedrinking.
I mean, we got Sean back there,sean can pour it up.
You know what I mean, sean?
You know what I mean Sean.
Oh damn, her finger broke.
Her finger broke, I forgot, Iforgot.
But yeah, shout out to.
Sean man, she in the building.
Yeah, let's get.
I want to start by saying I'mproud of Leigh.

(06:46):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
I appreciate that For sure.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Because it's not too many rappers you know out here
that started at the time shestarted and can pop up and do
what she doing right now.
Okay, yeah, Okay, Name one.
No, it ain't none.
See, look this the thing.
Right?
I'm going to take it a stepdeeper, Because we come from an
era where it's like I ain't sinkor swim Bottom line and we grew

(07:22):
up at a time where we know ourcome up be illegal and shit.
She found a legal way to makeit Outside of doing rap.
That's still cool.
So, look, you know how rappersthey keep up the image to be the
rapper, but when your real lifeis just what it is you see what

(07:46):
I'm saying.
Like she really put it on thetrack.
She really a boss yeah, shereally put it on the line to be
a boss.
But let's get into it now.
White boy, you know how we dothis, all right.
So you know, here, on arelative most podcast, we do our
due diligence up here.
So these sit downs be for, like, for the people that actually

(08:11):
know what's going on with youand what's up with you like
currently.
You know I mean, yeah, like youknow, you got a lot, of, a lot
of stuff that people could goback and watch and your whole
come up your grind and triumphsand businesses and you know

(08:34):
relationships.
But when you like, when youlike 10 toes down and then you
like, you get that feeling likeno, I got to come back outside
and wreck.
Now I'm saying you've got to gokick it with really the most.
Yeah, it's only right.
It's only right and we bring in, like the people outside, we

(09:00):
bring in them up to speed on,like Willie Mays and got going
on and like why and why yougonna get there but,

Speaker 2 (09:06):
let's start how we normally start real quick.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
He trying to, I don't know why is it?

Speaker 2 (09:11):
is a but he's putting it together.
I see him trying to cook.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
I'm trying to let him .
But, bro, just get to the partwhere we try and get to man you
want to do it.
Yeah, alright, so normally onthe show what?
we do is you feel me, is even,is even.
You got an influence right andwe just trying to figure out who
gave Lee Mazin her influence tobe Lee Mazin you know what I'm

(09:36):
saying, and normally it could beeven.
It don't have to be a celebrity, it could be somebody in the
household, it could be somebodyright outside the door.
We just really want to get tothat part.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
So like who my biggest influence?

Speaker 1 (09:48):
Who's like an influence that make you probably
be the person you are now 100%my mom.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Yeah 110% my dudes yeah.
I say that in every interviewtoo.
Like just seeing how my mommaneuvered growing up single mom
, two kids, strong Two bonuskids.
No man Like did it on her own.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Right.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
And we ain't one for nothing.
We ain't even know my mom wasstruggling, when she was
struggling, how she was makingends meet.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Right.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
She did it and you know what I mean.
So that was always like mymotivation, like I got to pay my
mom back, and not justmonetarily, not just with money,
just like I want to see my momyou know what I mean Like get
what she deserves.
I want to get her flowers whileshe here.
So that was always my drive.
That was always like my biggestmotivation.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yeah, shout out to Umi man, that's dope, that's
super dope, yeah.
Yeah.
You know why?
Because a lot of these peopleout here I don't want to say
people, but a lot of females outhere being led the wrong ways,
seeing the wrong things in theirlife, and you know for your mom

(10:52):
to stay sturdy in front of youmaking sure you see the right
things, hold it down, hold itdown.
You know what I mean.
Making sure you don't see herstruggling and stuff like that.
That's hard to do.
You know what I'm saying With ahouse full of kids.
Yeah, see now, things like that, we hear that in your music.

(11:14):
You know what I'm saying.
We hear it when you speak onthose things and it's relatable.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Yeah, uh-huh.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
And I just want to know like do you shed tears
sometimes when you make thismusic?
Or like is it emotional?

Speaker 3 (11:33):
hell yeah, I can say honestly this time when me
popping back out, I left all theemotions back there.
I feel, like I went through alot with this music shit this
shit really drove me suicidallike real rap.
I've been through a lot withthis music shit.
This shit really drove mesuicidal like real rap.
I've been through a lot of shitwith it.
So when I decided to pop backout this time, I'm like fuck all

(11:54):
that emotional shit, let's havesome fun again, let's make some
money.
It ain't no way and this ain'tno shade to nobody, but it ain't
no way these bitches is eatingand they can't rap.
That's how it Right, yeah, solike yeah, nah, like I got to
come back and get with his minds.
Like period.
So all the emotional shit islike I might do a song,
depending on like what mood I'min or what I'm talking about.

(12:15):
I still might get provoked, youknow what I mean.
Like if I'm talking aboutsomething that's touchy,
somebody I lost, or just likestress period because you know,
like life be lifin'.
Especially like right noweverybody going through
something, so it's like I thinkthat's why everybody can relate
to what I'm saying, because it'slike we all going through the
same shit.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
It's different, but it's the same shit.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
You get what I'm saying so it's like yeah, so
sometimes I still do getemotional, but for the most part
it's like let's, let's get to.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
all that emotional shit got weak man, you saying
you, you, you was like feelingsuicidal at a point.
What can make you like I?
I didn't see that, you know.
I'm saying like I mean nobodyseen it.
We ain't supposed to.
Yeah, so like that, see, that'sthat thing her mom did.
It wasn't showing her nothing,you know, I'm saying she know

(13:03):
how to do the same thing.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
Yeah, nobody seen it.
I'm talking about my Sean ain'tsee it, my mom ain't see it.
You, know, what.
I mean Because it was like thisis something.
I'm going through internally.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
I never really been what built that up, though how
you get built up like that.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
You ever been through something and then you don't
even know you're going throughit till you.
Out of that, then, you're likedamn yeah that's kind of like
what it was, but it's like itwas just a lot like.
I feel like I was in upsituations, up two, up deals.
I feel like at one point therewas a rumor that I got
blackballed in the city.
Yeah the the it that's thelabels is calling yeah the it,

(13:39):
yeah and I hear this all thetime.
It ain't even just just a mething.
Yeah, they calling the it.
Niggas like I want to sign Kour.
And it's a lot of it niggas thatbe like nah don't sign that
little nigga.
It's a lot it be a lot of thatgoing on in the city.
Don't nobody talk about thatshit.
It's a real thing.
Huh it be a lot of that shit.

(14:00):
I got in the city.
I did what I was supposed to dohere.
I gave back.
I did the give backs I gaveback to the kids.
I performed on just about everystage here, any feature, and all
of that I got did that on myown.
Like you feel me, I movedaround here so it's like I hit
the ceiling.
Once I hit the ceiling here,I'm like damn, you know like
what's next, you go anywhereelse.
If I was popping, how I waspopping when I took off, I took

(14:22):
off in a year.
I got signed a year after Istarted really rapping.
Cora, no, me and Cora startedrapping together.
We had a whole label, self MadeEntertainment, sme.
Within a year later I'm signedto Dream Chasers.
I'm moving around.
I did a tour with Meek.
Then I did my own tour.
We funded it ourselves, got onthe road ourselves, we robbing
peter to pay paul to really makeshit shake and it was like if I

(14:45):
did that, if I did what I didhere in any other city, if I was
from anywhere else new york,atlanta all of that I'd have
been going, been going, that'sfacts, that's a fact but it's
like it's some shit here thatlike the politics we gotta shake
, like we gotta shake that shitbecause that shit stop a lot of
people.
It's fake politics politics, Alot of people don't want certain
people to pass certainmotherfuckers.

(15:07):
It's a lot of like.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
All right.
So we got this thing here likethe in crowd, and if that shit
don't come through the in crowdor if it ain't a part of the in
crowd, then it get kind of likea nigga motherfuckers are shunt.
That shit, bro.
You won't make it to a certainlevel.
You won't make it past thepoint.
You'll make it past.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
I think it's just a level of support.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
I feel like it stops after a certain time, like I
said anywhere else, especiallyif it ain't got nothing to do
with a certain individual.
That's fact.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
And, too, it's like if somebody in the same lane, me
and Cordius, was talking aboutthis.
Y'all got a podcast right.
It's a lot of podcasts in thecity that's popping Mm-hmm
Collab, right, that's how youlook anywhere else.
They doing it in the UK, theydoing it in LA, they doing it in
Atlanta.
Two podcasts, they cometogether.
They do.
We gon' make this bag together.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
Keep it a yard, shout out to them.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
They are guys, it's only competition.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
That's what we missing here.
It don't be friendly.
Niggas would really be mad ifyou in the same lane as them,
you know what they call it herewhat they call it.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
Dickie here.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Joe and Joe, I'm gonna be real.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Philly too serious, Like we take everything and blow
it, that's fast.
Everything.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
We went on the road for our first time, me and Sean.
This when I'm first movingaround this before the deal,
this before Meek, all of that Inever really been out the city.
At this point.
She like, yo, let's just go toAtlanta, let's just go down
there and just make some moves.
We ain't had no bread Resources.
We fly Spirit.
This my first flight for real.

(16:42):
We fly Spirit.
We don't even know we supposedto pay for our bags, so we
bought a flight.
Love, we get there with thisbig ass this.
When you was traveling with abig ass suitcase, we get there
with big ass suitcases.
They like, yeah, your bag is$95.
We looking at each other likewe ain't got $200 for the bag.
I don't even know how wefinessed it.
But we went to Atlanta and thelove.

(17:02):
I got out of Atlanta and I'm abrand new artist.
Like they ain't know me, butthe love was just different.
I'm like damn like why we don'twhat's missing home, like what's
going on with home, and Istarted seeing like a difference
even in New.
York to this day, New Yorkshowed me.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
I love Atlanta LA.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
I done, lived in a lot of places.
They showed me a lot of love,so speak on it white boy, let's
talk about it.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
So I'm out of town, right, I'm out of town, jiggin'
to the max, hittin' the lid.
I'm hittin' the lid, running toPierre.
I'm running to Pierre out oftown.
I couldn't believe it, bro.
Like I couldn't believe it, I'mlike, man, that's the way in.

(17:43):
I'm telling Ra bro, this ourway bro.
We put the bag behind Pierrefresh down Atlanta.
I'm like, let's go, he downthere.
He got a little connections,resources, no bullshit.
I went to Atlanta and the justsupport and the love and like

(18:09):
it's just different.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
That's what we say about Philly.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
That shit made me a different person.
What we say about like I cameback to Philly a different
person.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
You want to come back for real.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
Yo, I'm me, today Is everybody like from that
everybody here like better thanthe next person, Bro Philly.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
It's just not enough support.
It's like.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
Lee Mazin could be in the room you got you done.
The reason why you, Lee Mazin,is because you did all this shit
Accolades from here to yonderand a bitch could walk in a room
that ain't got half theaccolades from here to yonder
and a bitch can walk in a roomthat ain't got half the
accolades you got.
I promise you she's going toact like she's bigger than you
or act like she don't know whoLee Mays is or act like she

(18:53):
don't know who you are.
That's just how Philly is.
That's Philly.
We make ourselves moreimportant than the important
person.
How do we do that?

Speaker 3 (19:02):
Even the Joe shit, though.
I learned this from beingaround Meek.
Honestly, like when I firstsigned to Dream Chasers, meek
would put us in rooms and hewould always tell us, like yo,
I'm going to put y'all in a room, but I ain't working that
motherfucker for y'all.
So we like all right, cool.
I learned this shit from LilSnoop, that little nigga, did
not we in the room with DJKhaled, busta Rhymes, who he

(19:23):
going up there everybody he up.
Yo, you want to hear me rap?
And some of them like nah chill, little nigga, you know what I
mean.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
It wasn't like that all the time.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
But he ain't care.
We all sitting there, all of usfrom Philly, everybody else,
that time we sitting there likeI'm like I and Sean I'm like yo.
We gotta.
Like we gotta get put that dickto the side, fuck that Joe shit
like we gotta work the room.
So we start doing the samething and it took a little
minute to adjust, but I seen theoutcome.

(19:53):
Now I got it's relationshipsthat I did.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
How long did you get resources?

Speaker 3 (19:57):
Networking.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
That's the only way.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
We don't fully.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
Trina.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
Remy.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
Marsha and Brody Like this stuff.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
I did I got on my own .

Speaker 3 (20:13):
This wasn't through no labor or nothing.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
It's just like putting your pride to the side
and, like yo, I just want to getthat Go and go get that.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
No, they say no.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
But if they say they say yes, you got to try.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
So, it's like, yeah, like they all saying come on,
you got bars.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
Come on, it's crazy bro.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
We got to is crazy bro we gotta get out of that we
gotta get out of that and Icould pick you on.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
We gotta get out of there.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
If you worry about who bigger, that's the.
That's.
We worry about the wrong,definitely worry about the wrong
.
We don't blow our our people uplike with anything, not even
just music clothing lines.
We got people with popping ass,designer lines, hair food, all
of that you don't never see.
My video went viral threedifferent times.
The same video Three differenttimes, months apart.

(20:56):
I dropped that video.
That video, the first one thatwent viral.
That shit came out in July.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Which one you talking about?

Speaker 3 (21:02):
The Timberland beat.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
OK.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
OK.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
I dropped.
That shit came out in July ofthis summer.
It went viral the first time.
And now you dropped it againand nobody from the city, nobody
posted that shit, not onemotherfucker.
I'm talking about that's likeyou know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
That's like big dog status.
I know what you're talkingabout.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
New York niggas again .
Trina and I got time in withTrina.
That's big sis.
But Timberland posted this shitthis is his beat.
But he ain't had to do that.
It's everybody from up New York, all the DJs, self, all of them
.
They yo.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Just throwing it up Right on the story.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
Nobody from here posted it.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
This shit is crazy.
Nobody but Diamond Cuts.
I don't understand it, becauseyou know what I mean Cuts always
going to show me love.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
But nobody else posted that shit.
We all and I didn't throughthis shit, but I'm like.
You see what's going on.
But, then, six months from now,six months from today, I'm
going to have a hit.
That shit going to be out ofhere.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
Everybody going to spend a block.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
Everybody going to spend a block.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
That's how it go.
That's definitely how it go.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
That's how it go.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
No see what it is right we are.
We just the worst man and wegot to get better because our
system is just all jacked up,our whole lord like hip-hop
system on how we operate andit's from like care of our
artists it got to get betterfrom I don't know man, I can't

(22:24):
even say this about it.
You know where it come from.
Stop playing.
It come from the, the old headsthat's where it came from.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
That shit was passed down.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
Yes, yes, because I'm going to keep it real.
That's why we got all thistalent but nobody really
pressing through this shit.
Kev like 60.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
We got the best spitters Kev like 60.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
Period.
If you want to get pushedthrough.
You got to somehow get the Kev.
That's not.
I mean, I'm telling you, bro, Ijust heard somebody speak today
.
Like man, y'all can say theradio or the DJs is the way out,
but it's so many other ways tobe out there.
Now.
It is it's podcasts, it is it'sdifferent platforms.

(23:06):
Bro, for you to go ahead andput your music out and for it to
go dumb, you know what I'msaying.
Like your music out and for itto go dumb, you know what I'm
saying.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
You just got to figure it out.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
Especially the way it is now.
He said I put my artist on theplatform and then I paid for a
playlist and he was out of hereafter that.
No, but it's still differentvessels that you got to go
through in Philadelphia.
Oh yeah, so like you can't.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
It's inevitable, you get trapped here.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
You do.
I got trapped here.
How, bro?
Listen she at one point Leeprobably was the most dominant
female rapper in this city.
Hands down, nobody on top.
Bro, we just had thisconversation, so and I said well
, I said, we got to come out.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
Why is the?

Speaker 1 (23:54):
love the way it is, because that's the whole thing.
That's what I'm saying, likewhy Philly treat Cassidy the way
they treat Cassidy.
All right, see, now you tryingto go viral.
You trying to go viral, I'mjust saying, bro, he hot, come
on bro.
Bro, am I playing though, andhe being bad?
And that's the shit that I besaying.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
Why y'all?

Speaker 1 (24:13):
treat Reid Dollaz like that Am I wrong?
Why you saying these names?
Am I wrong, though, bro?
Bro, I'm not comparing them toLee either.
I'm just saying, like thesepeople are hot and they from our
city.
They hot, but they shittythough, lee, not shitty though
Atlanta would never do that tothe artists.
What you doing right now.
You a part of the problem.
You a part of the problem, bro.

(24:36):
They gotta do more bro.
Respecting the artists as alegend.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Is he showing?

Speaker 1 (24:43):
Philly.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
God.
Right now on camera, he'sshowing you what they do.
It's simple, though we gottaput our pride down.
It's like we in the same laneand I try to always do this Like
even when I was like, like yousaid, I'm the top chick in the
city.
Any female that was above me,even like they embraced me, I
can't say that.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
Jade, nina, bianca, all of them from the rest, I've
seen you with all of them, yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
But I'm like, all right, I want to do the same
thing, like so, anybody that wascoming up under me and I got
more buzz than them.
Come on, let's do a track.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
That's fire.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
I put three females on one record, four of us on a
track.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
I remember Was that the set it off.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
Yeah, we shot a video and everything because it's
like we might have been like thecutoff point, though that's
where I'm getting at Like, butare we getting like this, Like
what's up?
I?

Speaker 3 (25:32):
don't know, but that's some shit.
We got to get to the nextquestion.
That is crazy.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
So look, would you All right?
All right, okay, Now you havebeen the full package in what an
artist should be.
Now, I know you had your upsand downs throughout the game.

(25:57):
That's what the game do, butyou always figure wiggle room
for your pockets.
Give me like being persistentin this hip-hop game especially
coming out of Philly.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
I feel like that's one thing I can say Our hustle
really unmatched, though.
We cut different.
Everybody say that.
When I spend time in Atlanta, la.
They be like yo.
I love y'all, y'all justdifferent.
I don't know.
I feel like I grew up aroundall niggas for real Kord, my
brothers, my cousin, a lot ofguys and I just seen them
maneuvering, just moving, justmaking ends meet.

(26:34):
So I adopted it.
My mom say it all the time.
She like I got my first carwhen I was 15.
She like you got that car.
You hopped off the porch.
I ain't seen you since.
It was just like we gotta makesomething happen.
So, I treat music the same way.
It's like we gotta make thisshit shake.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
Right.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
And then, when I first started rapping, I didn't
even know what I was doing.
I had no clue, of course, no,like I used to play around
freestyling on a trolley.
We was 13, 14, catching the 11from Southwest to 40th Street to
go see some little niggas.
We was talking to that wascrazy.
And Lady would make me, mycousin would make me rap the

(27:10):
whole time Like yo justfreestyle off the top.
That's how I started.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
But I wasn't taking it serious.
Then I used to see those videosand be like damn, I wasn't
taking it serious then, becauseI'm really low-key shy for real,
for real.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
So I'm like I don't want to be no rapper.
I went to college, dropped outof school, I was broke as shit.
We had Fires kicked out offireside, everybody out front
and lady like rap, she make merap in front of everybody.
I freestyle off the top.
This one facebook was popping.
She throw it.
We throw it on facebook.
Everybody like, oh shit, likeyou fire.
I ain't know you rap.
Somebody hit me up.

(27:42):
They're like yo, I want to do afeature with you.
I'm like I ain't even know whatwas going on.
I never even been to the studio.
They like, um, how much youcharge?
I'm broke as I ain't got nomoney.
I'm like how much you got?
He like I got a nickel for you.
I'm like bet.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
First cut.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
Bet I go to the studio First time in the studio
I don't even have a name.
I wasn't even Lee Maison, yetI'm in that bitch Talia, like
yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
Give me my 500.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
Boom, I do this song.
Same thing happen again.
They start happening.
I just started saying 500 wasmy price Right.
And then I had met Sean andthem and it was three of them at
first.
I had three managers.
They had like a managementcompany, we all get into it.
And Sean was the one rockingLike she, like man, fuck that,
Like let's get this shit.
And we just ran, we just putour feet on the ground, we just

(28:30):
went.
You can't name two females inthe city that did what me and
Sean did, and it was just us.
We ain't had no backing.
I never had nobody cut no checkfor me, signed or not.
I never got no bag, nobody paidfor no studio.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
None of that shit.
I might be speeding, but howdid you get into a reality show,
whoa?

Speaker 3 (28:48):
You, you hey bro, I mean we hear you, they caught,
they caught me though.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
They did.
I mean, you were so at the partwhere she, yet, at the time
when they, when she got, whenshe got the Was that though?
When she landed that, though,she was scorching though.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
Yeah, they caught, they caught and.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
I was going to do it they.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
They caught me at the same time.
Loving Hip Hop called me.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
New York Loving Hip Hop.
See, I ain't even know all that.
That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
I took the meeting with both of them and they had
the bigger bag.
It made more sense.
It was less messy, because I'mnot like a messy person.
I don't like everybody in mybusiness.
I'm not about to tell you whoI'm fucking.
It made that never been me,yeah.
So I wasn't going to do neitherone.
And they like, nah, do this one.
They gave me creative controlso I'm like, yeah, let's do this
.
And they was paying eight timesmore than what Love Hip Hop was

(29:39):
trying to give me.
So we like, yeah, we're goingto do this one.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
Did the.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
TV show.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
And then I mean, I look at that as like a part of
your career.
Me too, for sure.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
Yeah, that's something Nobody nothing like
that.
That's what I'm saying that'swhere, that's where it get
closed off.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
When I tell people, you, you, you was on a reality
show.
Some people don't know.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
But it's like.
But you want to know what'scrazy, Some of the other girls
that I'm on the show with theyhood supporting them.
They got big-ass watch partiesthe whole city out there.
They booking them, they biggingthem up.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
We don't do that.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
We don't do that here .
We got to get.
That's crazy man.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
But that's neither here nor there.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
Yeah, it's crazy.
Damn, that reality show wasfire though.
Yeah, I watched that.
Yeah, I watched it and you hada.
You had a moment on there.
Um with mc light no, that wasfire too, though the mc light
part.
But you had a moment on therewhere you was explaining, like
some of the stuff you was goingthrough as an artist and like I

(30:54):
guess you and uh shot had asituation where the car got
robbed or something like thatyeah, no, sean wasn't with me,
but um, she wasn't with me.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
I was with my ex at the time and we got I got robbed
and they stole.
It's crazy.
They robbed me the night beforeI flew to la A to start filming
for the show, so I just went tothe mall.
I'm grabbing Jack my clear thislittle pieces because I'm like
I'm about to be on TV.
Rob Markman.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
You know how that be, de'aaron.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
Thomas.
They hit the wheel, they robbedme, take everything, they took
all my music.
So at the time I wound upgetting one of my hard drives
back because I had a sticker onit with my face on there and all
that and they must have justthrew it.
When they stole the car theyjust start throwing stuff out.
And somebody found the harddrive, but this right literally
the day before I go.
So when I get on the show I'mlike they like, yeah, we need

(31:41):
the music, we need this.
I'm like I don't even have themusic.
Like they robbed.
I just got robbed last night.
Yeah the show.
So it just like a lot of peoplewas like yo, did you really get
robbed?
Or that was like fake for TV.
I'm like hell no, like I did asbig as AK to my temple, that
nigga pulled me through thewindow Like yeah, what yeah?

Speaker 1 (32:02):
Me too.
I didn't even know he was there.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
They took me out the car and them niggas didn't know
what they was doing.
So that was the.
That probably was the scariestpart.
I think I wasn't even likenervous when it was happening.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
You ever you ever feel like some shit happening,
but you don't even know what'shappening.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
So, as the shit going on, I'm like, damn, I'm really
getting robbed right now, butthese niggas is arguing they
like what we supposed to takebro.
I'm like ah, these niggas don'teven patting me down.
I had money in my pockets.
Them niggas never touched me.
They were scared Once he got meout of the car.
He never touched me.

(32:37):
They were scared and then theyjust took the whole wheel and
everything was in the car.
So they took like all theclothes, my computer, the hard
drive.
We had like a couple dollars inthe car, but that was it.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
Damn, that was a crazy situation, situation for
you, especially at that time.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
Um, it's always good to have a a mail around too,
like, yeah, when you when youknow I got cursed out for that,
yeah and I was slipping too,like I and my, my you know my
pupils put me on point all thetime like pay attention, don't
put your head down.
I'm in my phone when, when ithappened.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
I'm texting my hairdresser.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
I'm late for my hairdresser appointment.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
I look up and it's right there.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
So it was like I got cursed out bad, I got took to
the range.
I got yeah, all that, yeah, wecan't.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
We risking too much having you in them type of
situations, so we can't havethat.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
I feel like everything happened for a reason
, like like I feel likeeverything happened for a reason
.
Like I needed that to happenNow.
Now niggas move a certain way,Like now we militant.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
I'm situated all the time before we continue man,
that's the real of the mostpodcast.
Make sure you share likesubscribe If you don't use a
muff hater.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
Why?
Because it's free.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
All right, no man, we got Lee Mason in a building
today, so we're done, yet Wouldyou building today, so with you
coming off of the chases, andthen the reality show is that,
like around the time, roughRiders come knocking.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
Yeah, so I do the reality show, and at that time
they actually offered me aspinoff, me and Breonna Perry.
That was like my sister.
We really linked from the show.
That's my family to this day.
They offered me a spinoff.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
She dope too.
I remember her, she dope.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
Yeah, that's my family, so they offer us a
spinoff.
But at the same time thenetwork they brought out Oxygen,
so we was on Oxygen.
They bought out Oxygen.
Like somebody out there I wantto say Zeus.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
E.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
E E bought out Oxygen , so they stopped all these
shows at the time.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
I remember.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
So, right when they offered us to spin off,
everything got put on hold.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
Production.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
So I'm getting frustrated because I'm like damn
, the Meek situation ain'treally working in my favor.
Tv shit ain't working in myfavor.
Now I'm mad.
So now I'm like I'm ready.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
Angry.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
Aiming at everybody.
Now I'm mad at everybody andthey called me and I was kind of
in like a desperate time.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
And I'm like I'm not doing that, Like that's not
Right.
Yeah, I'm not doing that, Likethat's not yeah.
And I talk to like people whoare, you know, like why are they
a fan?
And I think honestly, and thisis no shade to them, because
like you feel me, like I signedbecause me and my brother was
DMXing Eve Like dead ass in acrib, we made bikes out of like

(35:27):
pillows and we was Right Like wewas.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
A inspirational we was was like we.
We was a inspirational for allthe kids.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
No, for sure.
I'm like then, like this mightmake sense.
Like you know, I mean, I ain'tgot nothing, that was going on,
I was at my tail end.
I'm like right fuck it like,let's just do it let's just do
it, let's just do the situationand, um, that shit ain't even
going as planned.
So it was like, after that, I'mstill signing them, but this
one, I, this one, I kind of feltlike I was drowning and I'm
like, fuck this music shit.

(35:54):
No more shit and I'm going togive her her flowers while she
here.
I was like done with music.
I'm like man, fuck this shit.
She's not making me no money,sean.
Like bro, this shit in you.
Like you can't just give up onthis shit.
She said fuck it, just take alittle break.
Label we start choosing.

(36:15):
I was about to get into that,go ahead, we start choosing one
and, um, I ain't gonna lie, Istill I ain't want no parts, but
I'm like this, this, this mysister.
Like I call her mom mom.
She called my mom mom.
Like this is my family.
So I'm like this, the oneperson that been there through
everything with me.
So I'm like this, some shit shewant to do.
I'ma just back, sis play.
I didn't want to do this, likeI was helping.
I want you to do it too, but butI'm like I'm gonna support what

(36:39):
she wanna do, because shealways supported what I wanted
to do.
So we come up with the chosenone records, we get our first
two artists, we get petty levels.
I mean.
Rest our soul and then we getum seth, and then we find pop
pop hunter pop hunter do the pophunter situation.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
That little nigga take off, take off, we do the
now, did y'all know he was gonnatake off when y'all first heard
the song?
Or did y'all because I pickedthe song.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
So that little nigga fire.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
So we get we got like six tracks that we choosing
from.
I'm the only one who pickedCorvette.
I'm like nah, this is it.
We arguing, arguing me downthat out of town spot?

Speaker 1 (37:17):
right, he used to be out there.
What you mean?
The Pop Hunter young boy?
He used to be out there Out oftown spot.
I used to be at, yo, I used tosee young boy.
I couldn't believe that Johnwent.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
Hey yo, I couldn't believe that John went.
Man listen, that little niggais fire.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
He tell his story for a reason.
Pop Hunter was out there withit.
You hear it Shout out to PopHunter man.
It was crazy man.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
We do the Corvette record that shit take off.
I don't even think we, I don'tthink none of us thought it was
going to do that.
Yeah, what?

Speaker 1 (37:50):
it did.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
Uzi hit us, we do the Uzi feature and then, as fast
as that shit went, you know whatI mean.
So that's when I really Phillyfor you, philly for you, philly
for you, because all theselittle niggas Philly for you,
it's Mickey Mouse's Philly foryou.
If we get, we're going to getinto it I'm talking about I
watched them tweeting11-year-olds While this shit was

(38:13):
going on.
It's 11-year-olds that'stweeting.
They don't know nothing.
They don't get into none ofthis stuff.
They like I love Pop Hunter.
He's so cute.
It's niggas from Philly,grown-ass men writing
11-year-olds.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
He a rat.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
That nigga a rat.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
And I'm like damn.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
You can't like him.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
What?
What are you doing?
Like so I ain't gonna lie likethat that situation.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
I'm like this shit ain't meant to be like we just
keep hitting the roadblock everyfucking time.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
Hell yeah, y'all don't know the conversation you
gotta understand.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
Listen to what she just said, like I'm hearing it.
I'm here, I'm keeping inroadblocks at the top of the top
every time we get right here.
It's like at the top of the topof every time we get right here
is like at the top of the peak,and then it's from under our
feet.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
So I'm like man, I can't do this shit no more.
Right after that, that was whenI, that was when I high key
like I started having, like Ireally was like in a depressed
state of mind, like I'm like man, this shit not, yeah, this shit
not making me no bread.
This shit all over the place.
I'm losing my mind, like I'mlike nah, like I can't do this
shit no more.
But you know, I mean like withprayer and persistence, like you

(39:17):
yeah you come up out of all ofthat.
So we get back to the label, westart shaking and moving again,
we get petty popping, perfect,you know, I mean.
And then then that happened.
Then that happened.
So I'm like at the that wasreally what provoked me because
I felt like I was fighting someof them same battles that I seen
her lose to you feel me.
So I'm like that shit changedmy whole perspective on just

(39:40):
life period, because she wasyoung, that was like my baby
sister, but she lived her life.
Even with going through whatshe was going through, she did
what she wanted to do.
If she wanted to go skydive,she going to go jump out of the
plane today.
She wanted to go here, she wasdoing it and she still was
fighting what she was fighting.
So I'm like you know what Imean Like a piece of me, feel
like I owe it to her too, likeyou know what I mean.

(40:02):
So it was like kind of aroundgame and I'm like I'm taking
this shit personal, I ain'tgonna lie.
I'm like, yeah, nah.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
That's it, and you should.
Because you work for your spot,you earn your spot.
Facts, facts.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
I'll wrap circles around a lot of these niggas.
These bitches can't stand itwith me.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
But that too.
But it's style with it too,though.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
How I see it, that's facts.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
Elegance A lot of these bitches don't be having no
style Skate.
You feel me, and you can't payfor style.
That's facts.
So you, it's like you can't getyour spot up because for one
you earned it and for two youthe style of the shit.
If we don shit and we'll getyou, don't pop out then look
what we don't want.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
No, that's right.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
I like to see you all working more though the females
.
Yeah, and that's together, ohyeah, but I'm, with that, always
been my MO Like because Philly,we got the spitters but I never
forced enough and I've neverbeen forced, if that shit ain't
organic.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
I can't force no feature I can't force no studio
vibe, and we can't get in andthat shit don't click, I ain't
doing it with nobody.
But on the female tip, I feellike because we got a link when
I was coming out.
It still was like a one femaleat a time type of era.
It wasn't letting multiplefemales in at the time and for
real, for real.
Nicki had her foot on gas 15years, so it was like trying to

(41:35):
wiggle into that shit.
It was hard it was hard andhonestly, we do go through a lot
as female artists.
I'm talking about when I firstwas coming out.
It't get yo, you can't getpregnant.
Like don't let these niggas getyou pregnant.
I like girls, they like nah,you can't tell nobody.
You like girls, like thatthat's gonna fuck up your shit.
Nah, you can't do this, youcan't.

(41:55):
Nah, you gotta show your ass alittle bit.
Nah, you gotta get a littlelike.
I'm hearing all this shit and II've never been like a follower
, but you know, like I'mthinking, like taking it and
there's people who I know canget me to another level.
I'm kind of taking some of this, so I'm confused.
I'm getting pulled this way,pulled this way, pulled this way
, and I'm like y'all drive mefucking crazy.
Nah, like so then I feel like Iwasn't being me, like I wasn't

(42:16):
being authentically me, so it'slike that shit was harder when I
first started coming out.
So then to see the shift in thegame and they see like them,
appreciating females I salute toall the females that's doing
anything.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
So when I say, like they ain't got bars, they just
calm down.
Though they ain't got bars,they just say, but I still
salute them, say I'm gonna calmdown.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
Thousand females pop out and I love it though,
because that is, it's a shiftfor the culture but if they
corny, they corny like for sure,but I do love what's going on
like because it's never happenedbefore with hip-hop Like the
females run the game, Especiallyin Philly.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
This the perfect time for Lee to pop out Like just
period.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
Even on a big scale like the females is running the
game.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
But no, I like what I'm seeing in Philly too.
Like even still now, like I'mstill now, like I'm I'm the the
K Glizzy's, the Deja's, like I'mI'm in conversations with them,
like I'm I'm let's get in thestudio.
I've never been one of them.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
I'm never going to stop nobody.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
I'm never going to stop.
Nobody shine Like I'm.
I did that back then.
I'm a do it now Like cause Iwant to see everybody, when I've
never been the type of bitchwhen you first, when you, I love
it, I love it.
She fire and she and she hungry, yeah and she ain't.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
No, I mean like she really going you, you and she
got good energy too.
That's the whole thing.
That's the whole thing.
With it right there, the energy, her energy, high and she could
really.
I ain't gonna lie, man, I lookat it like you big dog in this
shit now On that status.

(43:51):
That's because you accomplishedso much.
I remember when you wasgrinding and you went and got
that train to feature.
I remember that.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:59):
I remember that.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
And at that time that was super big for you because
you know how that lane of thefemales, how, how slim it be and
trying to be really likelooking out for hot artists that
be like really hot, and youreally was one of the ones yeah,
trina trina, one of the, thefemales that's.
That's up there that reach backlike she always show love I

(44:21):
done.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
Performed with trina and everything like anytime she.
We in the same city.
She calling me like Like popout, I'm bringing you out.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
Same thing with Remy.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
Like.

Speaker 3 (44:28):
Remy came home Soon.
As she came home like, calledme personally.
We getting in the studio.
You fire as fuck.
She was on house arrest.
She pulled up to my sessionwith a beat with an ankle
monitor on that's dope, gotright in the booth and she write

(44:54):
her shit.
I'm stamping that.
She put out a notepad with apen and wrote that.
But it's like you feel likethat same thing with trina,
though like to this day.
That's, that's big sis, that'sbig sis.
I remember how I met trina.
We was in onyx, okay, and onyxwas paying me weekly, yeah I was
making a bag at onyx yeah onyxwas rolling popping recipes, dj,
uncle jen and um, we in onyxand they got me in the big
section I came down there acouple of times with you.
I remember, yeah, they got mein the big section.

(45:14):
Right here in the front wepartying and shit.
We get our bottles.
They like lee, we gotta move youone section over because we
putting trina right here and I'mlike, I'm like no disrespect to
the baddest bitch, but like Iain't moving in my city, like
she yeah, I'm finna party withme, I'm finna, just tell her.
Like you know, I'm saying yeah,she come in a section I'm like
yeah, you know, I mean, I'm likelike your music, all that.

(45:35):
She's like man, I know what thefuck you ask like give me a hug
.
All that we've been locked insince that day I was thorough
from the rip.
Right then we popping bottlesand we, we turned up and my
step-pop loved Trina Like my mom.
Let him out the crib Like he inthe section Wifey loved Trina.
To this day, like that sis, likeright then.
And there I ask her I'm like yo, I could get you on a song.
She like yeah, send that shit.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
And we've been locked in ever since.
Yeah, that's love, yeah, no,you see, that's why I really one
of them, ones that put on forus like we'll never be mad, you
feel me, because you really comefrom that gladiator school.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
Now it's been proven.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
Thanks, that's why I was like now is like come on,
lee, let's go.
Like, yeah, come outside.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
It's your time.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
The cook loaded.
Though I ain't even going tolie to you, I could just imagine
, actually, what I meanEspecially like with everything.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
Just you know what I mean Living and going through.
I'm still going through whatI'm going through.

Speaker 3 (46:28):
Like with the label and all that.
But that shit, like I'm likewhat's up with Rough Riders
though they dropped the ball.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
They dropped the ball they dropping the ball.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
Y'all got caught up, niggas.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
They dropped the ball I ain't even here to talk about
them, damn uh, drop the ball.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
This, this is the real of the most podcast.
Make sure y'all share, like,subscribe, comment.
If y'all don't use them off, Ihate them.
Wow, because it's free.
Hey, listen man freely, amazingyeah, amazing tissue yeah,
that's the campaign we got to berunning.
All right, yo listen, we don'tplay about our art, especially

(47:11):
our female artists.
Facts you know what I'm saying.
Get it right, man.
Get it right Really the most weout here.
Man, get it right.
That's all I'm going to say,man.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
Get it right, let's get it right.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
Let's make it right, but look, is you ready?
Yeah, no question.
All right, let's go, man, allright.
So here on Real or the Most, weplayed a couple games at the
end it ain't nothing too crazy.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
The first one Fast Track where I just say Fast
Track.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
Fast Track.

Speaker 3 (47:37):
Fast Track.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
I say two things.

Speaker 3 (47:40):
You pick one out of the two, all right.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
You bet, yeah, so we in Philly.
So I like to start with thisone State property or major
figures.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
State property.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
OK, ok, state prop I say state prop free.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
show me a lot of love to that fab or nice.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
Wait, wait, hold on.
I just seen a picture with youon Mac.
Y'all was in Gold City.
I love Mac Standing on the wall.

Speaker 3 (48:08):
Mac burned me out, Freeway burned me out, Like that
you know what I mean.
Like I feel like I always gotlove from the up people in the
city.
Like I said, jay and Nina, yeah, state prop.
I just seen crack in the marketliterally two days ago.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
Always love.
Who was?
Who was all right, it's Jay,nina, bianca.
Who would you Bianca?
But who would you say like isin between them before or later?

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Hmm, it was Lee after that Ain't nobody.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
It's Lee.
After that it's Lee Tiara,tiara, tiara, yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
Dizzle, dizzle.
I love Dizzle.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
Lane Bean.
We all came out at like thesame time that's where I always
been in love with them too,though it always been everybody
I came out with we.

Speaker 3 (49:06):
we always in hustle mode, we all got tracks together
, we all came to and Lean fire.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
Super fire.

Speaker 3 (49:13):
She fire.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
She's family to the show.

Speaker 3 (49:15):
Tierra, though I knew she was going.
I never forget.
I did a song.
I put everybody that waspopping on the song Young Sam
Stizz Ape.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
Gang.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
Stizz Young Savage Dizzle.
Name them Lika.
Tell us them names, I'm tellingyou.
I remember that time.

Speaker 3 (49:31):
And we all come to the studio.
We all recorded together.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
She pulled out a dictionary.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
Oh my God, I'm like.
Oh, she about to walk me on myown.
She about to walk me on my owntrack about to walk me on my own
track, and then her flow.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
She came out.
I'm like, oh, she's out of hereall she needs is the right
person.
So to this day, I just seen, Ijust seen uh whack at the fight.
It's always been love.
Lean bean always been love likeyeah, it always been the same
temperament.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
Temperament.
We're most of the females fromthe city.
After that it was y'all.
Anybody else?

Speaker 3 (50:02):
anybody who ain't mesh with that was like a them
problem.
And all Most of the femalesfrom the city After that it was
y'all.
Anybody else, anybody who Iain't mesh with, that was like a
them problem, mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
That was.
That's crazy.
All the beefs any beefs y'allheard about, was like fake beefs
, Like they was beefing withthey self.
I'm trying to remember.
You ever heard Lee beefing withsomebody.
No, I never heard you beefingwith nobody Nobody.
We getting money.
Yeah, we don't pay attention tothat shit.
You come from the borough, yeah, but shoot, shoot one, all

(50:32):
right, say no more.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
You said Fab or Mase, right, yeah, fab.
Oh, you ain't answer that.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
Fab for sure.
Fab or Mase?
Fab for sure.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
I love Mase though, but Fab for sure.
I feel like Fab one of the mostconsistent artists of the last
two, three generations in termsof fab.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
Keep it so hard yeah, no, she good, would you say.
Hit it again, it's going allright.
Um, that was a good joint.
She can explain, she can dowhatever, elaborate on why she
picked one.

(51:08):
No, because I ain't going tolie.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
Because I feel like when Mad came out, I was fucking
with Mad.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
Because I'm like, oh, she can spit.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
Then she kind of went you know what I mean, but Lado
be dropping them.
She be talking in that GeorgiaPeaks shit and all that.
I like when she walk them slowbeats.
She be talking that shit.
Yeah, I like how she do thatslow shit too.
Yeah, I fuck with that when shejust be, like talking.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
Yeah, uh-huh, that was a good one.
Yeah, you like that one, I likethat one.
What about Glow, sexy Red Glow?

Speaker 3 (51:44):
Glow, glow a rapper right.
I fuck with Glo.
She got the accent she betalking some shit.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
I like her energy, her album.
That was a good album.
They put a solid piece together.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
I fuck with Glo.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
Yeah, balenciaga or Prada, there we go.
Yeah, yeah, pop it Me, I'm me,what you doing, I know that's
right.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
No, i'ma go Prada, though I'm going, prada, you
ready for one gotta go.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
Or you got another one.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
One gotta go.
Y'all gotta turn this fuckingheat down.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
Yeah, we do.
Let me do one more real quick,distill this or that.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
I'm trying to be respectable, but it is what it
is.
It is what it is.
Alicia Keys.
Mary J Block.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
Mary, what.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
See y'all crazy, that was a bullshit joke, it was a
bullshit joke.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
I've been telling you that was a bullshit joke.
That was a bullshit joke.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
I've been trying to tell you what, come on, we're
going to do.
One Gotta Go, man.
I love Mary J Blige man.
One Gotta Go is a littledifferent.
It's where we're going to sayfour names, but you're picking
one to go.
But when they go, everything,the whole resistance go.
Everything that fall under themgo as well.

(53:12):
All right, lil Wayne Jeezy YoGotti Gucci man One got to go.
Damn Gucci man.
All right, wait, wait, wait,wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
wait, wait.
Everything got to go.
Gucci, damn Gucci man.
He said that All right, wait,wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
wait.
He said everything gotta gowith it.
Yeah, like whoever they gotsigned people, they put on all

(53:35):
that shit.
Like everything go Now.
Mind you, gucci, put the wholeAtlanta on Wayne in his prom was
Wayne in his prom.

Speaker 3 (53:42):
Nobody was touching Wayne in his prom.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
See, I ain't gonna.
Snowman, I'm never getting ridof Jesus, ever so look that's
how I be feeling, right, becausehis music just was so
influential.
I don't give a fuck who put whoon.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
That nigga, I'm never getting rid of.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
He ain't make no millionaires though.

Speaker 3 (53:56):
I don't give a shit.
He ain't make me no millionaireeither, so I don't give a fuck.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
None of them made no millionaires.
I no, that's crazy.
Yeah, I can't see myselfgetting rid of Snow neither it's
between Gotti or Gucci.

Speaker 3 (54:07):
Yeah, maybe, but then Gotti.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
Gotti making millionaires right now.

Speaker 3 (54:11):
Yeah, Gotti got the flow still.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
Gucci got Thug Future , migos Future can't go nowhere.
Yeah, you can't let.
You just can't let Gucci golike that.
He put all of them on.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
I'm not getting rid of Snow, so y'all going to have
to figure that back into thatSlams Future.
I can't get rid of this SnowmanJeezy I don't know, man, that's
one of my favorite.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
I can get rid of Snowman for Future though, bro
Slams.
I mean Snowman probably couldgo.
I'll take Future.
Y'all tripping I, I'll takefuture.

Speaker 3 (54:43):
Y'all tripping?

Speaker 1 (54:45):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (54:46):
Y'all tripping.
Even I just went to a Jeezyshow 20 years later.
No, I love Jeezy.

Speaker 1 (54:51):
You right.
No, I love Jeezy when I firstgot popping outside.
I was getting snuck into theclub Jeezy.
I was 17.

Speaker 3 (54:56):
I ain't had no business in the club.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
Ah, I went to both of their shows, but man Future
Show is something different.

Speaker 3 (55:11):
Y'all talking about Future from Gotti.
I can't count that I'm gettingGucci out of here.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
Alright, that's what we going with man.

Speaker 3 (55:20):
Alright Future would have made his way somewhere else
, Alright, Reed Dollaz.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
Meek Mill, joey Jahat Quilly one gotta go Say it one
more time.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
Reid, reid, meek, meek, haddie, Quilly one gotta
go, damn Meek.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
Meek Meek Hattie.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
Quilly, quilly one gotta go.

Speaker 3 (55:50):
Damn we talking back then, or we talking period.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
We talking about whatever you want to talk.

Speaker 3 (56:02):
I feel like they all and they prom they all that they
all that.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
They definitely all held it down.

Speaker 3 (56:08):
They all got different flows, and too one guy
I would have to go packingthese bags.
I gotta go ahead on that one.
I'm sorry.
I love, I love joey, but I feellike meek really meek, really
converted that and made himselfwho he is today from that.
Like we watched, we watched ithappen.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
I just feel like reed was unstoppable at that time,
like still be, like putting upnumbers and then quilly coolly
going he's still funny on thegram every day.

Speaker 3 (56:38):
Funny he going, he got the hilarious character and
then they get.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
I think hattie just need to pop back outside because
y'all playing with hattie shoutout to hattie man, he doesn't
need to pop back out.
You don't know where he howhe's gonna pop like he popped.
He popped in his when hestarted talking.
I'll be like peppermint pattyhattie, you crazy bro.
He start talking crazy.
Yeah, come on, don't act likehattie, don't pop this from that

(57:03):
list though you gotta get.
He gotta come out here and putsome work in.
That's cool.
But all right, here we go.
Lil' Kim Trina, eve Nikki.

Speaker 3 (57:16):
Ooh damn Lil' Kim.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
Trina Eve I came with some work, right and Nikki yeah
.

Speaker 3 (57:26):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:29):
Sis off the list from the rip training.
I just already said what I saidthat's big sis.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:34):
She's never coming off the list.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
Yeah, yeah, all the rest of them got history.

Speaker 3 (57:38):
Nicki got the greatest female cataloger of all
time, eve.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
she from Philly and she made it out of this trenches
.
That's hard.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
That's hard.
That's hard.
Who you say?

Speaker 3 (57:46):
That's hard, eve out the trenches bro, if I was petty
, who you say the other?

Speaker 1 (57:50):
one was, I said, Eve, Nicki Trina and Kim Damn.

Speaker 3 (57:55):
Bro, that's hard bro.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
See, you put us on a tight spot, yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
You put us in a tight spot.

Speaker 3 (58:00):
Now break it down what we doing.
Wait what you saying.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
Because you can't just say this one Like you,
can't just go in and say, oh allright, well, she got to go.

Speaker 3 (58:09):
No, she don't.
If I was being petty, I wouldsay you know what I'm saying
Because I'm in a situation.
But if I'm being realistic, evemight realistically have to go,
though.
You can't even do that though,because huh.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
Eve might, she might have to.
That's why I said you can'teven do that, though, because
she might really have to go, andit's crazy, she got to put some
more work in.

Speaker 3 (58:29):
I can't Only because, but look she had a TV show she
from the trenches, bro, I don'tknow.
Trina put me in position, shepassed me the ball she got
movies.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
She got a TV show Barbers yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
No, no, no, no.
You got an illustrious career.
You feel me, but you don't givea fuck about hip hop.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
You know she.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
She went more prolific than you and shout out
to Eve man.

Speaker 3 (58:56):
I feel like, I feel like in a sense of the culture,
all of all Eve, I mean I, eve,trina, kim and Nikki still in it
.
I feel like Eve, eveina, kimand Nikki still in it.
I feel like Eve.
Eve did what she did.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
She got she married that nigga.

Speaker 3 (59:13):
I mean that billionaire boy, so I'ma I'ma
had to go she marry him and shesitting at the end of the table
she ain't worried about us ain'tno hip hop that shit old you
ain't see that picture at theend of the table I said shit at
the end of the table.
Yeah, I'm going to say I'mgoing to have to go.
Eve, respect Swap the battery.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
Damn.
All right.
Okay, that was cool too.
I ain't going front.
You got another one?
Yeah, I got an R&B one.
Go ahead, let me hear that.
You ready, we going to go.

Speaker 3 (59:44):
I can't sit still long.
We gonna go Avant.

Speaker 1 (59:47):
We almost done Avant Joe.

Speaker 3 (59:52):
Case and.

Speaker 1 (59:54):
Tyrese One gotta go.

Speaker 3 (59:56):
Avant Joe Case Tyrese .
Definitely not Avant, avantstays.
It's between.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
Case can't go, you better google him.
Damn Advanced stage it'sbetween.
Case can go, you bet googlingCase ball.

Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
He did the Coca-Cola commercial.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
It would be between it probably.

Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
Might not have had a whole lot of shit, but the shit
he had Hit so hard.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
He had 98 on lock.

Speaker 3 (01:00:34):
I could go without Sweet Lady.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
Okay, that's the last one.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
That's the last one right here, birdman.
No, I got one more, thoughBefore you do that, can I do it?
You gonna call it bullshit.
No, I got one more, thoughbefore you do that, go ahead.
Before you do that, can I do it?
Go ahead, you going to call itboy shit.

Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
I don't know, corey, you been on some boy shit.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
I got one, though it got to be said though oh my gosh
, all right, all right, y'allwant the new one or the old one?
I got, go ahead, the old one,all right.
Mc Lyte, queen Latifah LaurynHill.
That's what I be talking about.
Man, this boy is crazy.
Man, this nigga man, come on,man.

(01:01:15):
You don't want me to do themBirdman All right, go ahead.
Diddy, dr Dre and Jay-Z.
One gotta go.

Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
Birdman Diddy Dr Dre and Jay-Z.
One gotta go.
Birdman Diddy Dr Dre and Jay-Z.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
No person, no person.

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
Birdman Dr Dre.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
Diddy Jay-Z One gotta go.

Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
Dr Dre Diddy Jay-Z.
I'm stuck, I ain't gonna lie.
Birdman Diddy Dr Dre Jay-Z.

Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
One guy go.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
Diddy and some you know what I mean Like we can't.
I ain't really gonna speak onthe but Diddy catalog.
Retarded Diddy gotta stay.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
No did he, but did he stays?
Did he?
Definitely gotta stay for metoo the dray crazy too, though I
might could live without thatwest coast.
Y'all could live without adrink.
I might can live without theWest Coast.
You feel me?
I just be real on this job.

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
Hov got to stay, that's why we really the most.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
Mack goes nowhere, so Hov goes nowhere.

Speaker 3 (01:02:35):
Yeah, I said Hov got to stay, hov and Diddy got to
stay, no, diddy.
And Birdman, the trifecta thegreatest hip-hop trifrophecta
and you said Berman Berman, Isaid Wayne and his brother Wayne
, Nicki and Drake, Alright, butDr Dre got 50 cents.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
Who's current right now?
Corny, he's still current.

Speaker 3 (01:02:54):
So we doing without Drake, I'm just gonna go.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
Y'all gonna do without the G-Unit sneakers.

Speaker 3 (01:02:59):
Yes, nigga, we ain't wearing them anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
Double.
Yes, we had S-Dots, but weain't had no G-Units, so you
going to do without the G-UnitsFacts?
I seen you look like you wearyou got the colors on right now
the G-Units sneakers.
It's cool, all right, 50.
All right, dre.
And he said y'all got to packyour bags, man Got to go.
Hey, listen, man, it's the Realof the Most podcast podcast.
Make sure you share, like,subscribe, comment.
If you don't use a muff, ahater, why?
because, it's free man.

(01:03:30):
We got in the building andshe's popping it.
You heard me.
So how you wanting this man?
I mean, you know rough riders,let her out, you feel me freely
amazing that's really.
That's just what it is.
You can let the people knowwhat you got coming up.
Yeah, where they were, theycould find you.

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
Everything is at Lee Mays and no G open.
No G on my shit, l E M A Z I Nand we I'm bombing.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
I guess it's we ready for it?
Oh, just drop.
We just saw a clip.
It's loaded when I go loaded isloaded.

Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
When I say loaded, it's loaded Like I'm coming from
.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
Do you got a name of a project?
Nah, so we can help come upwith a name for a project.

Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
Come up with a name.
I know that shit.
That always been a corespecialty out man, I'm going to
let y'all choose.
We're going to let the peoplechoose.

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
Let the people get them involved.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
Y'all already know man Back outside.

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
Back outside.
Y'all ask for this.
Y'all going to get what y'allask for.
Y'all already know, Y'all gotto follow the.

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
we got multiple businesses and all of that too,
yeah shout out the print shopseven years in that Are y'all
looking for artists?
Right now.
We always looking for artists.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
See we got to come with some shit.
Though Get with Lee man, makesure y'all come with some shit.

Speaker 3 (01:04:49):
Y'all hear what you got to come with some shit,
y'all see what she do withartists.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
She put them out.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
So make sure y'all come with some shit.
I got that's amazing printingdesigns.
We got the luxury rentalcompany coming Tongue twister.
We got the Sprinter.
No, that's the Julio, we gotthe Sprinters, all of that.
We got the ranges, the blacktrucks, whatever y'all need,

(01:05:19):
like, yeah, we coming.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
We coming.
This our year, this our year.
We got booked with Lee one time.
Yeah, we got y'all, let's go.
Yeah, we got y'all, let's go,we got y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:05:28):
I can't tell y'all all the other stuff.
I don't like speaking on ituntil it's signed, sealed and
delivered.
But when I say I'm coming thisyear, I'm coming.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
Music Music content content catalog content.

Speaker 3 (01:05:39):
I'm giving up bars all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
It's automatic, the time automatic, oh, oh.
So something is in the play,something in the play.
White boy, let's go.
You know we gotta be the firstones to know, though you know we
get the exclusives around her.
We gotta do our.
Do those.
You already know it's the realof the most podcast.
I'm roller, I'm white boy, d28.
We got lee mazen in thebuilding.
Make sure y'all stay tuned, manwe out we out of here really
the most podcast.
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