GREATNESS IS A PROCESS I FEAT JUSTIN MURRAY I RTM PODCAST I SZN O2 | EP .17 - Realer Than Most Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
We'll see you next time.
Rilla the Moose Podcastbuilding man.
What's up, what up, what up,what up, what's up, guys?
What's going on?
Brody cash, what's?

Speaker 3 (00:46):
up my brother today I want cash to do the rundown.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Man, oh, man oh man, um, you know, I ain't gonna lie
like when, uh, this year may, Iwas a part of a, uh, a high
school tour, uh, don't gettricked out your spot tour.
Shout out, manny.
Shout out what I wish I knew.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Foundation you know I'm saying and um.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
For for those unaware , I'm gonna make this a little
quick for those unaware.
Like you know, manny work witha specific you know, uh,
non-profit.
Is it a non-profit or?
Foundation yeah, like afoundation called every town, so
he had the members out here.
He had some good people outhere, but great people out of

(01:30):
all the people you know.
I'm saying we.
We met Justin at Martin LutherKing high school man and like I
tell y'all this dude man, hejust super Jim.
We clicked before he, we evenknew who he was.
Why was he important?
What he gen?
We clicked before he, we evenknew who he was right.
Why was he important?
What'd he do?

Speaker 4 (01:47):
yeah we clicked before that you feel what I'm
saying man listen, philly showedme man love that yeah, man my
man, white boys, you know, quoteunquote took me to the best.
Uh, what I spot out here, whereyou take you shout out the
chucks.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Okay, okay, okay man.
He took me to chucks yeah, we,we, we clicked with justin.
You know I'm saying, uh, like Iain't gonna hold you man, ever
since you know he been in ourhome.
We didn't get to his home yet,but he's been, we've been, we've
been, he's been in his, we'vebeen, he's been in our home.
We about to go to his home.
Just real solid, dude, man, Iain't going to lie man, I'm mad

(02:31):
I missed your birthday too.

Speaker 4 (02:34):
I'm mad I missed that man Nah man, it's all good man,
we got stuff happening.
I'm mad man.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
But listen y'all, I'm mad, I want to come.
Man, if y'all ain't familiarwith him, you know what I'm
saying.
Emory Jones son, you know whatI'm saying.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Rockefeller Royalty.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
If y'all know who Emory Jones is, go look that up.
That's not even something Ishould be even explaining,
because y'all should know that.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Man, emory Jones, and the caravan.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Yo give it up for.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Justin Murray.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
man, I want to get straight into it because this is
the thing right, Because I justsaid the every town thing.
I was about to go deeper but Iwould have been speeding.
We did an interview with Justin, previous Talk about it.
And it was real good man.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Great Crazy.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
And then it was some technical difficulties and I
never was able to get to you.
You feel me.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
Shout out Manny 2 and 5.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Shout out Manny 2 and 5.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
But the reason.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
I'm glad that happened, though, is because
Look at us now.
Look at us now.
Are we way?
Are we way like?

Speaker 2 (03:48):
way past that.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Past that.
You, man, you, you stayclimbing, you stay doing what
you mean.
So I just wanted to say weappreciate you for, you know,
being patient with us andrunning this back, because we
really had a a good interviewyou know I'm saying yeah, and it
was family man, it was all love, man.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
Y'all open the doors for me, man.
I was just hoping I could showy'all that same love shout out
the real of the most podcast youknow.
Thank you already man layingout the red carpet for when I
came man.
So, like I said, I appreciatey'all man, thank you.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
so yeah, no problem, man, we appreciate you.
So before we man, thank you.
So yeah, no problem, man, weappreciate you.
So before we get into anything,you know we big on mental
health up here, you know whatI'm saying.
So before we get intoeverything, we ask everybody how
they feeling.
So we going to start with Coretoday.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
How you feeling man.
Today is one of them days,fellas, you know like I feel
like whenever you get to asituation where you feeling like

(04:55):
you down, it's what's next.
You know what I'm saying?
So I'm on the what's next waveright now, bro, we doing rather
than most podcasts, you know, wegot like 50 shows for real, for
real, almost like 60.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
Probably like 60, roughly.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
I'm on the part like what's next for us?
You know what I'm saying.
I'm ready to go ahead and excela little bit, like take this to
the next level.
I think we know what we'redoing when it come to, like,
putting the show together um ofcourse, we still gonna get
better over the time, but I'mstill thinking what's next?
Like right now, we like sevenmonths in yeah so that's how I'm

(05:40):
feeling right now okay, howabout you, white boy?

Speaker 2 (05:43):
so I'm like kind of like in that same space, but
like, like how I see it is like,um, I ain't on front, like I'm
so much like in the work rightnow and I think we could pull
off a hundred episodes beforethe year out, bro, we got five
weeks left, bro, I mean Bro, wegot five weeks left Bro I mean.

(06:04):
Bro, we could like it'spossible, Bro, it's possible bro
.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
It is possible 10 shows a week.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
So like that's easy, I'm like.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
I'm like, I'm like trying like Two shows a day I'm
trying like.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
I'm trying like manifest that for us to end this
year off strong, like you knowwhat I'm saying.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Yeah, that's what I've beenthinking about.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
That's how you feeling.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
That's how I'm feeling.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Um, I'm feeling like you know what I mean Like
yesterday, you know, we had areal, we had a real good talk
After we uh Recorded.
And I'm just feeling likeAlright, so I've been, and for
the last couple weeks I've beenfeeling like all right, so I've
been, and for the last coupleweeks I've been in like this
little.
I've been in like this littlefunk.
I ain't going to lie, like likejust overthinking stuff.

(06:51):
You know what I'm saying,taking the bad with the bad
instead of looking at the good.
You feel me Like just worryingabout everything that ain't
going to happen, or this, thatand the third, and I was letting
it affect me, like when it cometo the pod a little bit.
So I'm just working on that.
You know what I'm saying, justmaking sure that I recognize the

(07:13):
opportunity I got in front ofme with my people.
You feel what I'm saying.
So I'm feeling like justsharpening still a little bit.
Just get it sharpened a littlebit more.
That's gangster, yeah for sure,how about you brother?

Speaker 4 (07:30):
Man, I'm blessed, man , Blessed, waiting on the rest.
Man, I happen to be blessed toput in a position where I've
been on a school tour myself.
Man, manny was a big motivationfor me.
Man, like I said, said, shoutout to manny, 215 shout out
manny um, he's a big motivationfor me to do what I'm doing in

(07:51):
the dmv.
Now I'm doing a school tourmyself with, uh, one of my
business partners, uh, neil.
Man, shout out to neil.
Uh, neil introduced me to asituation where he had a
relationship with all theschools to where I was at.
It was probably like man, itwas roughly like 20, 25 schools.
He went around and actuallybuilt a relationship for us.

(08:14):
Man, I just happened to comethrough with my relationship
with Evertown and StudentsDemand Action.
Shout out to them.
I just happened to be a way forthem and I'm just happy we was
able to partner together andpull it off.
Man, we probably reached out toroughly about, we'll say, like
1,200 students.
Man, all around the PG Countyarea man in.

(08:36):
Maryland man and I was happy tobe a part of it had some of my
brothers pull up two-time NBAchampion Quinn Cook, a couple
painters you know.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
some of my brothers pull up um two-time nba champion
quinn cook um a couple ofpainters you know uh you know a
couple influential people aroundthe dmv man, it was all love
hey, man, that's a shot, man,two-time mb, like I ain't gonna
lie, man, like that's my guy manit's great, it's great it's
great that people in ourposition can even have that

(09:07):
happen.
Yeah, man like, yeah, that'swonderful, and like be able to
pull strings like that, yeah andI want, yes, and I and I want
to get, I want to get deep intoit.
So we gonna, we gonna, we gonnarow the boat.
You feel me, you're gonna rowthe boat.
So you know how we do it.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
Let's get it right, boy so you already know um, it's
really the most podcast up here.
We do our due diligence.
You know we family ever sincewe met.
You know we clicked.
I'm saying we, we communicateall the time, but I'm saying we
here for a reason.
We really let the people knowwho justin is.
So where you from, justin is sowhere you from?

Speaker 4 (09:43):
Man, I'm from Maryland, man, I grew up on the
eastern shore part of Maryland,like, did all my schooling out
there with the, you know,elementary, middle, high school
out there, even went to collegeout there, okay.
After that, man ended up movingto DC for probably like 10

(10:06):
years now.
Okay, outside of that was justbuilding relationships too.
And here I am now, okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
So growing up in Maryland, give me a few of your
influences growing up and when Isay influences I don mean like
the rapper or the local rapper,I mean like the people that's
even in your house, are likeright outside your door.
Give me those type ofinfluences that you had growing
up.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
man, my grandfather, okay, uh, my grandfather was
everything to me.
Okay, as y'all know, you knowobviously everybody know who my
father is.
I don't even need to explainthat.
Whatever you know mygrandfather, he was there with
me every day.
You feel me.

(10:54):
No disrespect to my father.
Love my father to death.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Right, right, right.

Speaker 4 (11:00):
But he was there with me every day, Taught me how to
be a man and any good thing thatanybody loved about me I
probably got it from him.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Okay, mm-hmm, okay, okay.
So what?
Your father, during a leftysentence in jail, your
grandfather was the one thatkind of stepped up to the plate
and held you down For sure,taught me everything man.

Speaker 4 (11:28):
Taught me how to drive, taught me how to hustle.
Taught me everything it wasneed or no.
You know, respectfully, justhow to be a good person and to
be a man you feel me Like mygrandfather ain't never missed a
day of work in his life.
You don't tell me how to youknow core values.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
Hmm, ok, ok.
So look, I don't, you know you,we, we family bro For sure.
So like I don't want to makethis like no, no, john, and I
want to make this like no partabout, but like we got to talk
about it, so listen on.

(12:13):
But like we got to talk aboutit, so listen.
Your pop is a part of history,facts, some of the greatest
history that we got in hip-hop,hip-hop culture.
Yeah, but due to the fall hetook, he kind of missed the
height of it, but, being asthough that the height of what

(12:33):
the Rockefeller the Rockefeller?

Speaker 4 (12:36):
Yeah, I was just.
I want to know which direction.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
Rockefeller era, but being as though the nigga main
man is the big guy, he held himdown all the way through.
We know that through culturetoo, because every song or two
his name getting put in it,especially on Kingdom Come Like

(13:00):
yeah, that joint.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Do you Wanna Ride?
Yeah, yeah, like yeah, thatdrunk, that totally yeah.
Do you want to ride?

Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yeah, yeah, so like when you growing up, the
knowledge that you had of yourfather, like did you know, like
exactly who he was?

Speaker 4 (13:16):
Nah, man, to me my dad is just my dad.
Bro, of course you know, evento the extent of what it is you
feel me.
I never knew that until, likelater on in years of life, you
feel me when you know,respectfully, I was just old
enough to really understand it.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Right.

Speaker 4 (13:39):
Outside of that, no, bro, damn.
My experiences with my dadbefore he went in was all you
know respectfully a loving,caring father.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
Yeah, father, father, father, son, shit, yeah, my
father ain't.
Bro, we never talk about thistype of shit.
Yeah, my father listen, bro.

Speaker 4 (13:55):
my father never showed me that part of his life,
but they're in his life, broMight not one day, bro.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
What like the part of life that got him there?

Speaker 4 (14:05):
Yeah, I never understood that about him until
eventually I got older.
Okay, you know, I was just.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
You know that's my dad and you know that's who he
is, all right, so you, but okay,your papa, honorable man bro.
So, like you know, we don't betalking about this type of shit,
but we we you know I mean wedoing this.
So it's like I feel like we gotto talk about this in the right
way, because not only did he dosomething honorable but he come

(14:39):
home and do something even morehonorable with planes.
So it's like Like with whotalking about your dad and
always giving him his praises onhow he was like an innovator
coming up, because they say yourpop was like the one that put
them on, like Bollies and shitlike that, like them, niggas was

(15:01):
wearing forces.
Yeah, sure he getting off thetrain he got Bollies and Louie's
and shit like that, like themwas wearing forces, yeah, for
sure he getting off the train.

Speaker 4 (15:07):
He got bollies and louise and like that on.
Like yeah man, they say my dadhad a uh, a fashion habit back
yeah, man, right, just used tolike stay clean facts.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
So yeah, like and then like being able to come
home and like and turn the wholethe fashion world upside down
with the plane.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
Shit is amazing to see facts and you know, I just
think that's just him.
You know, it's really not.
You know anything else.
You know?
I'm sorry, I really can'texplain it, but yeah, no, I know
what you mean.
He's just like that's just himas a person.
He'd like to stay fresh, he'dlike to stay clean, like that's
what he do so it makes the mostsense in the world.

(15:46):
Literally, that's just what hedo.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
You from Maryland, dc , your dad from DC as well,
right, Nah my dad from Maryland,my dad from the same part of
Maryland.

Speaker 4 (15:55):
I'm from Right, all right so you from Maryland.
Yeah, All right.
Do you know how the connectioncame about?

Speaker 1 (16:08):
like Jay-Z and your father, I just know the stories,
like y'all do man.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
Oh yeah, this my guy.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
Because, like him being from Maryland and him
being from Best Eyes, like youmean.

Speaker 4 (16:18):
I mean, you know, I just heard they had a mutual
friend.
That mutual friend ain't here,no more.
Okay, and it continued on, andthat's what it was.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
Okay, okay, All right .
So boom, right.
So you seen you going tocollege in DC or in Maryland?
Yeah, I went to college, Allright.
So boom, you get out of college.
Your pop's still arrested,right?
He still in there.
No, no, no.

Speaker 4 (16:45):
My father was home my senior year of high school.
Okay, yeah, my father was thereto see me walk across stage and
all that, and I am so thatthat's dope.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
So yeah, that's, that's crazy, that's dope.
So so boom you out of highschool, boom your pop home.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Now you know the ties he got, boom you out of not to
cut you off, though, but thatfeeling of your pop doing that
stint and then him being able towatch you walk across that
stage, get your diploma, what,how, that how, that felt well
that was dope man.

Speaker 4 (17:20):
Um, the hit just came home too.
If I'm not mistaken man, Ithink it just came home too.
If I'm not mistaken man, Ithink he had just came home.
It was just dope not to see himbehind no wall.
You feel me?
My dad did Fat Tom andobviously when we went to visit
him I could see him, touch himdo all that.
But outside of that it was justgood seeing him home man, Not

(17:41):
in that uniform, no more, my badbro.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
Nah you good.
Uh, so you, your pop.
Come home, boom you graduate.
You walk across stage, yougraduate you.

Speaker 4 (17:53):
You always knew you was gonna go to college nah, I
didn't even go to collegestraight out of, uh, straight
out of high school.
I was out here probably wildingfor like two years for real and
then you in the hospital likewhat 2021?
Something like that.
I was probably like 20 yearsold, my freshman year and where
and what you go to.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
I'm at college for, uh, business and marketing,
business and marketing.
So you did it for you or youdid it because it was on some my
family or my parents wanted meto like.
How did that go?

Speaker 4 (18:21):
um, to be honest, bro , I just got tired of living.
I was living for real, for Ithink I was tired of bullshit.
You know might catch a littledumbass petty charge in there
for petty shit.
Yeah, this that the third.
And you know, respectfully,life just hit me and you know I
had a couple good old headsaround and they pretty much said

(18:44):
that you need to stop livinghow you living.
Go get some money to stand.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
A third you are bigger than you know the part of
Maryland where you at andthat's what made you go to
college, you saying, or that'show you was thinking, it made me
want more.

Speaker 4 (18:57):
It made you want more .
It made me want more and youknow I thought college was the
step to go.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
Oh, no, yeah, that's what they beat in our heads.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
Right, that's what they beat in our heads.
You go to college, you get more.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yeah, so all right.
So you dropped out, or it wasjust like you, just I didn't
finish, I probably left after myjunior year.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
The crazy thing about it.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (19:24):
Yeah, okay, yeah, okay.
So I didn't finish.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
This is why I wanted to ask them questions before.
See, all right, look, they saythe decisions that you make from
18 to 27 is what's going todetermine your life.
I think that's false.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
Explain why.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
I'm going to say what I was about to say, but explain
.
Why, though?
Because what I was about to say, but explain why, though?

Speaker 4 (19:46):
because I believe that I don't care who you are,
what you are, how old you is,you know.
I believe that if you, you know, even if you're doing wrong at
a time, I believe that everybodylike when you wake up and
choose to say I want to to doright, and I want to take these
steps and I know what I got todo.
I believe everybody can do thatRight, but so.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
But if you over 28, right, and you wake up, no, no,
no, that's facts.
But I'm saying like, all right,like nine times out of 10, the
person who make the rightdecisions between 18 and 28
won't have to go back and say Igot to do that and this because

(20:32):
they did it.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
I think it's false, because half them niggas be
fucked up out here.
You said who?
Half them niggas be fucked upout here.
Yeah, yeah.
Man listen, we all knowsomebody right now that wasn't
in the streets, wasn't doingwrong, might have been spoon fed
, might have been, you know,let's just say sheltered.

(20:53):
In a way you get what I'msaying.
We all know that is probablyout here right now, philadelphia
, out here wilding right now,doing not on nothing there's a
bunch of them out here, so it'sa bunch of that from where I'm
from dc maryland, all that,where there's a lot of that out
here everywhere.
So, with that being said, Idon't.

(21:13):
I don't believe that stigmaokay, okay.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
So the reason I'm all right.
Boom, so you go to college.
You didn't finish right, so allright.
Finish right, so all right.
All right.
Now you're not in college.
You know who your dad is, youknow what he capable of, you
know the connections.
You got all that and what wasit?
What was where you going?

(21:36):
Yeah, what was your headspace?
Like where?
Where was you?
Like what i'ma do?
Like all right, I know this.
Boom, I just dropped out likeit's you.
It's so much going on in yourhead that you probably don't
even focus on like I want to bethis or I want to do this.
So bring us back to that likewhen you, you knew you college
was done with like um man, I hada hard conversation with some

(22:00):
people.

Speaker 4 (22:01):
You know, know my father, a couple uncles, you
know this, that and the thirdyeah, a couple influential
people in my life, including mygrandfather, pretty much told me
nigga it was time to grow upand be a man.
Like, if you want to, you know,do something this, that.

(22:22):
And the third, it don't matterwho you know, who you're related
to, man, listen, at the sametime, niggas ain't trying to
hear that shit and ain't nobodygoing to jeopardize what they
got going on because you outhere bullshitting right now.
Go get yourself together, go dowhat you need to do.
Then come back and let's work.
All right, you feel me?
I'm a firm believer, bro.

(22:43):
I don't give a fuck about noneof that shit, bro.
I'm gonna go out here and getup every day and go work, and
that's what it's going to be.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Yeah, so that's what it's going to be, OK, so, like
you said, it was a hardconversation and all that.
And you know I'm saying I wantto.

Speaker 4 (23:03):
I don't want to say a hard conversation, it was just
more, like you know, justin,decide what you want to do,
decide what you want to be inlife right and you know, you
take the steps.
You take the steps to get thereand then we help you, because
ain't nobody gonna help nobody,they ain't trying to help
themselves okay like you feel melike.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
So what age are are you at this time?

Speaker 4 (23:25):
man, I was probably like hearing this 23, 24 that
was well needed bro, 25 I waswrong.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
You needed to hear that, bro, if I had, if I had
that type of family that wouldhave been talking to me like
that at that age.
It's all about what I did therebro, I probably would, I
probably had six figures bro,Six, seven figures bro.
And that's why I be saying,like the reason I broke it down
like that for you.
You see how I just askquestions that every normal

(23:54):
black young adult go through.
They be thinking, since yourdad this or your mom that or
them connections and all it'sthe same, exact thing, Same.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
Same exact thing.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Get your shit together, yeah, get your shit
together or what Like yeah.

Speaker 4 (24:09):
Anything else don't make sense, man, like I'm not
jeopardizing what I got going onbecause my son fucking up and
you know back at them agesbetween 18 to 25, he was talking
about.
I was out here up.
Yeah, you need to hear that.
Yeah, I was out here living forme and I'm living for you know

(24:30):
all right.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
So y'all had that conversation.
Did it click right there or no?
Damn boy, you, you, yeah, yeah,nice over here go, it clicked
right there A little half andhalf Half and half One way in,
one way out.

Speaker 4 (24:47):
So I was still, like you know, finding out what I
wanted to do, while also tryingto do the wrong things the right
way, yo we all do that though.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
Yeah, I'm going to have this little job on the side
, but I'm going to yeah.
I'm goinga go get the gas, yo,you gonna be one time you get
home, but I'ma trap the weedthough, yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
I'ma lead the hard way.
But I'ma trap the weed.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
He's still doing it.
So it's half and half, so wouldyou say it was.
Half and half, so would you sayit was half and half.

Speaker 4 (25:28):
It was only half and half because I didn't know fully
what I wanted to do.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Okay, all right, bad, bad, bad If.

Speaker 4 (25:32):
I knew fully what I wanted to do.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
You would have made a decision.

Speaker 4 (25:35):
Listen bro.
I'm not no dummy either.
Listen bro, I'm not the type ofperson to sit here and act like
nothing I was doing was cool.
You feel me Shout out to Mannyagain when he said that shit was
lame.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
You feel me Like bro like yeah, it take time to know
when you're doing some lamestuff.

Speaker 4 (25:53):
Man, I was being lame around that time Cause it's you
.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
You know what I'm saying, and this your early
twenties, right.

Speaker 4 (25:58):
Early twenties like yeah, late teens, so all the way
from there to there.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
You still ain't even know what justin wanted to do in
life, basically nah, man, um,eventually I just found out.

Speaker 4 (26:10):
You know, naturally, what I was good at and just try
to be around other people.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
That was better than me of what I was good at.

Speaker 4 (26:20):
Yeah and then made my lane around that.
So what is that I was good at,you know?
Gathering people, gettingpeople in the room, hosting,
having parties um, I threw a lotof parties in my room in
college.
Uh, you know, I was good atconnecting the dots.
You feel me like, even if Ididn't know something, I knew

(26:40):
somebody that knew how to do it.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
You feel me Like I was a little bit of Jack of all
trades, you feel me so we mighthaving a lot of go party people
up here, but it started with theparties.

Speaker 4 (26:53):
Like I can't even I can't even lie with me.
As far as my overall brand, itdid start with the parties that
started with a do say andratchetship obviously shout out
to do say and Asa Spade and allthat Shout out to Ducey.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
So that's where, alright, boom, that's perfect.
So look, that's what I wantedto know.
So, like you in college, youlike that.
Alright, Pop's home.
Pop's got planes going on, hegot Ducey going on, he got Duse
going on, he got Roc Nationgoing on.
All right, I'm me, I don't wantto rob Pops' coattail.

(27:33):
Okay, I'm going to throw theseparties.
Are you thinking in your headlike right then, and there, let
me get Duse to ambassador thisjoint?
Like, as you work in your brainto the point of that, to
utilize Pops in that way at thattime?

Speaker 4 (27:49):
To be honest, bro, I was just doing it just to get a
job, just to get some money inmy pocket, bro, I'm doing it, so
I don't got to fucking sellweed on my dorm room.
Like I said I just knew what Iwas good at and I was like yo
like okay, I see, I just knewwhat I was good at and I was
like yo like okay, I see what Ican do at school.
Boom, I left school Been to DC.

(28:12):
It was just you know.
I made my network down there.
After that I ran a happy hourhere and there, started to get a
little club hosting here andthere I was like like damn, next
thing I know, coming to theclub like 20, 30 deep, like yeah

(28:32):
so um man, one of my mentors,man shout out to sherry, man
shout out to sherry, sherrybryant no no no, no, uh, sherry
martin, okay, I can't even lieto you.
Without sherry probably wouldn'teven be no me, okay.

(28:53):
She even gave me the confidenceto be like yo, like you, can do
this, nigga like don't letnobody tell you like what that's
your family, what?
Um, nah man.
So, uh, I met sherry in theoffice.
Sherry was working in theoffice.
She was working with, uh, sheworked with my father she was
more, like, you know, his, uh,his assistant at the time.

(29:15):
Whatever, so I just know herbecause you know she used to
send me all my what officethough?

Speaker 1 (29:20):
rock nation or uh planes okay, rock nation, okay
it was the same same office,okay at the time.
Yeah, so it ain't no more.
Not planes as a store, now RockNation or Plains Rock Nation
Same office.

Speaker 4 (29:26):
So it ain't no more.
Nah, Plains is a store now.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Plains is a store now .

Speaker 4 (29:31):
The office is still the office, but Plains is on
Soho.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Okay, 252.

Speaker 4 (29:36):
Lafayette Street.
Man Go visit the Plains store.
Man, you heard it here first.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
Go shop.

Speaker 4 (29:42):
Plains Soho, y'all 252.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Lafayette street.
We will be out there onthursday, yeah, and my birthday
wednesday too.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Oh yeah, what you doing, what you are, I don't
even know I'm.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
I'm gonna go, I'm about to go holler at planes me
he all right make sure y'all gotsome Ace of Spades up there for
my man Cash Real rap.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
So because this, all right boom, like I don't know
why, bro, like I be reallyliking like the regular, like
you know how you interviewrappers, everything, everything
about rapping, everything aboutrap.
I like when we have interviewsor pods where we like we really

(30:23):
sit down and everything aboutrap.
I like when, when I, when wehave interviews or pods where we
like it's just it's really wereally sit down and talk about
things in life and how toovercome them.
Come on and when you was atthis stage, how you feel because
you can help the next person,like, for instance, right, how
you said you grew up all the wayto 20 or 19 something and you,

(30:44):
you still ain't know what to doit's some people out here that's
going through that right now,and then you say certain steps
to how you overcame it or themoves you made, and it can help
them, bro bro, I know people 30,40 years old, older than us,
that don't know what the theydoing out here.

Speaker 4 (31:02):
That's you know respectfully us that don't know
what the they doing out here.
That's you know, respectfully.
In the way, right, you feel melike right and bro, it don't
like I said.
That's why I don't believe inthat stigma that uh, you said
when you, uh, when we firststarted, I was like, bro, like I
don't care who you is, bro,like you know, that's
essentially.
You know what planes and evenour whole motto and all that

(31:23):
greatness is a process.
That's what that's about.
You get what I'm saying, right?
You feel me it's not about whatyou're doing or where you come
from.
You feel me like you gottathink.
People from where I've comefrom, including myself, we all
wanted to be my father.
Okay, we all wanted to.
You know, hustle, do this.

(31:44):
You know, take trips out Vegas,blow a bag.
We wanted to.
You know, hustle, do this.
You know, take trips out vegas,blow a bag.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
We wanted to do all that right.

Speaker 4 (31:47):
Don't really like that's, that's every young you
know that's every young, youngguy dreams like yeah, hell yeah
but, especially hearing themstories yeah, like that's,
that's crazy after a while.
But after a while you gottaalso look at reality and be like
yo, like I need to hustle, Ineed to go do this, I need to go
do that.
You feel me, I need to take thesteps to do this, this, that.
And the third Like the onlydifference between my father and

(32:11):
anybody else is he justhappened to have a best friend
that just happened to turn intoJay-Z Right.
No thanks, no thanks, and that'sa dope relationship to have.
And don't nobody like what areyou down to?

Speaker 1 (32:25):
that for you feel me like.

Speaker 4 (32:27):
If white get a hundred million tomorrow, what
the fuck are you talking?

Speaker 1 (32:30):
about.

Speaker 4 (32:31):
Right, what are?

Speaker 1 (32:33):
you talking about.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
You feel me like.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
As far as y'all two think about it.

Speaker 4 (32:39):
Y'all three right now on this pod If white get a
hundred million tomorrow.
Y'all created this pod together, that's a hundred million
tomorrow.
Yeah, y'all created this podtogether.
That's what it's supposed to be.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
That's what we got.
You know what I mean you can'tfall a nigga for it.
Oh.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
White and Cash being best friends, I can't get out of
hell and be sitting with theseguys and don't be like we all up
.
You know what I'm saying that'scrazy.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
So I already bet oh Crazy, that's literally crazy.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
So I already bet oh before we continue, make sure
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Speaker 1 (33:38):
Go check us out.
Man Got Justin Murray in theback, all right, so boom right,
all right, look, let's get intothe meat and potatoes real quick
All right.
So, boom, what is exactly?
Because one thing I like doingand it be seeming like people

(34:02):
don't be catching on, so now Igot blatantly just see.
One thing I like doing is, whenpeople come up here, I like for
them to explain exactly whatthey are, exactly why they're
important, like exactly whyyou're sitting on this couch,
because it's not because Emory,you're dead, it's for other
things too, you know, I'm saying.
But we might say, yeah, youknow what such and such and they

(34:25):
are familiar, but that's notwhy you're sitting up here,
though.
Like so I want you to explainto the people what is it exactly
?
As you do, like planes andevery time all that like I want
you explain to the people, likewhat's your, what's your, what's
your um?

Speaker 3 (34:43):
and where are you going next with it?

Speaker 4 (34:45):
right if you, if you can see that far right now right
, um, as far as every town go,man, I am one of a black youth
engagement consultants.
You know, um, pretty much doactivation, uh, activations, and
you know youth engagement asfar as you know, putting the
guns down, doing all that in mycity.

(35:07):
As far as PG and DC fire, Ihappen to partner also with tone
man.
Shout out the tone out there inBaltimore, laura tone.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
Yeah, shout out the tone man partner with him.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Awesome stuff in Baltimore actually.

Speaker 4 (35:19):
Tone is the reason I actually got this relationship
with I'm with Tone man, Partnerwith him on some stuff in
Baltimore.
Actually, Tone is the reason Iactually got this relationship
with every time.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
He the reason Manny did too.
Yeah for fact.
Shout out to him, man, Shoutout to him.

Speaker 4 (35:34):
He actually did that.
Man Tone just happened to reachout one day, man, it was like
my brother was in school doingwhat he was doing.
Man too busy with college atthe time, man, he was like, you
know, your brother too busy forme for this opportunity.
Right now I wasn't, you know, Iactually didn't even, you know,

(35:56):
believe this could even happen.
To be honest, Right, he justbrought me to New York with him
one day.
We went to the Everytown officeand, you know, here we are now.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
What about Plains?
What about that?

Speaker 4 (36:12):
Plains is just my dad's brand so I do a lot of
marketing and stuff with himoutside of that.
You know pretty much marketingOkay okay.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
Duce.

Speaker 4 (36:22):
Duce, duce, ambassador, asa Spade,
ambassador, like I said, that'swhere the parties and all that
stuff came from.
Um, I shouted out sherry,because sherry gave me the
confidence to be like yo, youcould do that, you know, asking
for an ambassador just at thethird um.
So obviously I had a coupleparties on my own, got it on
camera, just that did it theright way, right put it all into

(36:43):
a presentation together,brought it to it to them.
It was like this is what I'mdoing.
I'm spending this amount ofmoney on bottles, like you know.
I don't know about nowhere else, but party in my city If you
don't got no money.
That shit high.
Like you say, bottles mightcost you $4, $5, $5, $500 in my

(37:03):
city.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
Let alone, $8,000.
That's going to cost you $1,000.
So when you because I don't-know, why I'm just so addicted
to.

Speaker 4 (37:11):
That shit is a fact, bro.
So, like I don't, If I'm lying,I'm flunked, bro.
That shit is a fact, that's thecase, man.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
The planes brand just was always ain't like I don't
work all right, it is one store,but I don't like work you don't
work there.

Speaker 4 (37:36):
You got like a corporate type of no, I ain't
gonna say it, I'm a corporate.
All right, I ain't corporatenothing.
He's there as his family.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
No, I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
Because it could still be his family, but I am an
employee, alright, that's whatI'm saying.
That's what I'm saying Becausepeople say family, but it could
just be this, my dad.
So I'm rocking, I know that,but they don't know that.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
So I always ask questions inthat because people could just

(38:09):
be oh, that's his son, he justthat's why he.
No, he really doing work there,you feel?

Speaker 2 (38:14):
what I'm saying.
So with Roc Nation being one ofthe black-owned companies
that's growing in our cultureand you being able to have the
luxury of being in the buildingand in some of those meeting
rooms and just watching certaindeals that shake up the culture
be done, and go on like justtalk about being in the midst of

(38:38):
that and and just seeing it nowI mean like how that make you
feel well like the growth ofplanes the growth of planes and
rock nation as and and just awhole um, man, to see the growth
of planes is dope, and Iremember when obviously it was,
you know, rockefeller appareland all that stuff like right I
remember all them days that you,you do too.

Speaker 4 (39:00):
yeah, um, you know, like I said, was really just my
father, I did that I justwatched him.
You know, so blossom.
Like you know, I remember atfirst like I don't even think
they really believed in theplanes.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
The first you feel me .

Speaker 4 (39:17):
Then my father kept pushing it and you know,
obviously, look at us now, right.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
Logo is crazy, though Like is real, unique you know
what I'm saying, of course weall made those paper planes in
our, our classrooms back in theday.
If y'all didn't, then you know,maybe I'm telling my age right
now, but you know what I'msaying yeah we definitely made
those paper planes.

(39:44):
It instantly caught my eye.
When I seen them, I stoppedcopping polo tees and started
copping paper plane t-shirts.
Yeah, he do got them joints,man.
My question was how manysiblings you got.
Say that again how manysiblings?
Is it just you?

Speaker 4 (40:04):
Siblings I got a couple brothers and a couple
sisters.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
Couple brothers, couple sisters.
Were y'all all connectedgrowing up.

Speaker 4 (40:14):
We was all connected, but only me and my youngest
brother stayed in the samehousehold.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
All right, all right, all right Now.
With that being said, youngestbrother, right, mm-hmm?
Tough love or y'all tight.

Speaker 4 (40:34):
Oh no, I love my brother to death.
Yeah, my brother can't do nowrong with my eyes, mm.
Yeah, he's one of those, mybrother can't do no wrong with
me period.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
That's how I am with my little brother.

Speaker 4 (40:46):
At all hey yo I want to ask this real quick man.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
It's one of those relationships.

Speaker 4 (40:52):
Nah listen, my little brother painted my ass.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
So what he did it, all right, what's up?

Speaker 4 (40:56):
Facts.
We're going to talk about itlater.
Yeah, whether I'm right orwrong, we're going to talk about
that later.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
Right, while we talk not to cut you off, bro, no, you
good.
A lot of people I mean there's8 billion people in the world,
you know what I'm saying so alot of people can like get
advice from people or people betheir mentor, whatever, whatever
but, like, I really want toknow what are some things that

(41:28):
your father taught you to do andnot be like the like?
just certain morals and loyalty.
And I want to hear, like some,like one or two things that he
said to you that like made youlook at life A certain way,
cause of who he is, because Icould sit down with you and say
anything, but if you Look at mytrack record or the experience I

(41:53):
got in life, I'm only 26, Ican't.
So I wanna, I wanna know, like,what's some of the things that
he like Taught you or told youthat you you had to hold on to
Like Um, he told me nobody wasever going to hand me nothing.

Speaker 4 (42:09):
Okay, that's one.
And he taught me patienceexplain that when it's your time
, it's your time it's you knowit's not.
It's not a book he can give you.
It's not a book he can give you.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
It's not a book I can give you.
You can't force it, you knowit's going to happen.

Speaker 4 (42:30):
What's meant for you is meant for you.
At the end of the day, you feelme.
Even down to like not evenhalfway being religious about it
.
But if you a God-fearing man,well bro, your story already
written and God already know it.
So what's going to happen isgoing to happen.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
Yeah, yeah, what's some who, some of the who, some
of the people that we might befamiliar with, like that you not
, and not when you was a baby,like you can't even remember.
And so, my, you met him whenyou not that I mean from when
you came as far back as you canremember how many people it was

(43:11):
like that's important to theculture that you met, being as
though your family is who theyare.

Speaker 4 (43:15):
In my lifetime, or like as like a kid.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
In your lifetime.
It might be too much right.

Speaker 4 (43:23):
I think as a kid it's too much.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
Huh.

Speaker 4 (43:25):
I think as a kid it's too much too as a kid.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
It's too much, too Damn.
All right, like top three, thenTop three people.

Speaker 4 (43:33):
That was influential in my life.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
No, not influential.
Yeah, just like.
That's important to the culturethat you have met and had a
conversation with.
You know what I'm saying,whether it was business or them
just knowing your father.

Speaker 4 (43:50):
I can't do a top three because I don't want to
leave nobody out.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
Okay, but you obviously met.
There's some people bro.
Yeah, I was I'm I don't want toleave some people out.

Speaker 3 (43:59):
That looks crazy bro.

Speaker 4 (44:00):
But hold one of them, of course right, yeah, but I
don't really have those type ofconversations with him.
Oh, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, no, everybody.
Nah, I'm Like is he aninfluential person in my life?
Yeah, Of course he's soinfluential to everybody but,
like you know, he is just hopeto me.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
Yeah, nah, facts, for real Facts.

Speaker 4 (44:21):
Cause, um, Like not saying that.
Oh, for real though I get it.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
But feel you.
Nah, nah.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
After you become friends with somebody or you're
around somebody for a certainamount of time.

Speaker 4 (44:35):
No, not even saying I be around him like that.
It's literally not a bro bro, Idon't be around him like that
bro Listen bro, you ever heardof a thing like matter of fact,
you know, I'm a firm believer inthis, bro.
Everybody friends ain't yourfriends bro.
Right, like bro, that's myfather, friend bro.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
That's not my friend, that's not my homeboy, bro talk
.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
That's my father, friend bro.

Speaker 4 (45:04):
I don't have nothing to.
You know, we'll go on there Idon't even talk.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
Yo look, bro, when I'm with my father.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
Jay, don't have nothing to.
You know we'll go on there.
I don't even talk.
Yo, look bro, you're not evenin a conversation when I'm with
my father.

Speaker 4 (45:11):
Jay, don't even come up Real right, like we don't
even do, like bro when I'm withmy father it's a real father-son
relationship.
We spend, you know, qualitytime that we don't get because
he's busy.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
I'm busy, he's working.

Speaker 4 (45:24):
I'm a father-son relationship.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
When your dad came home, was he able to build with
everybody the same way, Like areyour brothers and sisters?
His yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
Was he able to?

Speaker 3 (45:34):
build with y'all like all together at one point, like
when he first came home?

Speaker 4 (45:38):
Yeah, of course, when he came home it was all love,
you know Because?

Speaker 3 (45:41):
you said it was just you and your little brother in
the same home growing uptogether.
So I just wanted to know whatthat felt like with all y'all
getting together.
Pop on.

Speaker 4 (45:50):
No, but when my?

Speaker 2 (45:51):
father came home.

Speaker 4 (45:52):
My father respectfully who he was.
He went right off to work.
Oh, all right, bro, my fatherain't miss a beat.
When he came home, my fatherwent to work, bro.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
You told me last time we was talking.
Sorry people, but last time wewas talking it was like dad
didn't miss anything.
He didn't.

Speaker 4 (46:11):
He showed up Yo listen the whole time my father
was gone him 12 and a half yearsbro.
I didn't miss a Christmas ornothing, right.
He carried it.
My father made sure I had abike.
Every Christmas a new bikeevery.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
Christmas yeah, that's fire, that is a fact
Heavy From behind the wall, fromhere, from behind the wall.
Man, my father made sure I had anew bike every christmas.
So being able to like for himcoming home, you know, right,
when you graduating, and that'sbasically like you coming into
being a man, it's like he cominghome at a very important time

(46:45):
in your life and then you saidyou was like on bullshit for a
little bit.
You went to school, you comehome from school, whatever.
Then you start actually doingthe things that you do now.
Now, with with you being anadult and now you got your
father in your life and himbeing such a um, an important

(47:07):
fixture in our culture and youbeing able to be right there
learning hands-on, like, doesthat motivate you even more to
like be successful in the thingsthat you do?
Because I ask you that?
Because it's like, it's like,of course, you could do the
things that you do in planes orover there at d, say a speed, or

(47:30):
even rock nation inside thebuilding or whatever, but you
still do things like for likeevery town.

Speaker 4 (47:38):
Yeah, no, listen, listen, I mean every listen,
every time, bro, I owe them alot man.
Um, them people gave me a waythat I owe them a lot man.
Them people gave me a way, thata way in the lane.
I didn't even think I could gomyself you can ask.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
Tone, you can ask.

Speaker 4 (47:56):
Maddie, bro, you can ask my man right here, bro, I
wasn't in the midst of savingpeople bro.
I'm not in the midst of that,bro, cause you know.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
I also.

Speaker 4 (48:08):
Not only that, I also because you know, I also
understand, bro, like you know.
I understand what povertybrings.
I understand what certainthings bring to certain
neighborhoods and I understandyou know gun violence and people
dying.
Like everybody in here, got adead homie that had been shot
before.
You feel me.
I find that real crazy.

(48:29):
You feel me, I find that realcrazy, you feel me.
Even Tone man, it took a lot ofconvincing on my part to even
be a part of something like this, but when I got in the building
they showed me real mad loveand they rolled out a red carpet
for me and, you know, not onlyallowed me to do something great
and allowed me to do somethingI never thought I could do, but
you know, they gave me thatfeeling like yeah, see, cause

(48:54):
like cause, like us startingthis pod and it thriving so fast
, we um, we'll get caught up inwork or like inside these phones
, or just like being on pointwith the it or what's going on

(49:18):
with the times, but having likea Manny 2 and 5 that has the
foundations that he had andpulling us apart to be a part of
it, I mean just to show

Speaker 2 (49:29):
us like the impact that we got on the culture and
the community, that be importantand I'm glad to like I was glad
to be able to be a part of itand to see it.
And then like I get to meetpeople like you and we click and
been homies in the family eversince, so it's like that type

(49:53):
stuff be important because theywould think, like I'm being his
nephew, you Emory son, they'dthink we had meet in a club or
something or at a meeting.
We meet at a community.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
Give it back to kids.
That's crazy, because if Inever, if Manny never hired me
to host at his tour, youwouldn't even be sitting there.
Facts.
That's why I say, bro, it's God, it really beats.

Speaker 4 (50:19):
And if Manny never just invited me, it was like yo,
I got five shows, can you makeit to tour?
I was like I'm there.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
We connected with Chu from that tour Mana Ike, I'm
there.
We connected with Chu from thattour Munna.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
Ikey Raji's.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
Raji's Shoebox came down.
Shout out to Shoebox and Munnafrom Chicago.
That's what I'm saying.
We did a positive thing, andthe outcome was a positive
relationship with Chu.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
You do want the good thing forthe community and for the kids
and for the people, and you willget blessed 10 times.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
Right.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
Now I mean.
So it's like you know thepeople that's out here, that
that might be in them clubs, orbe in the studio, wherever,
wherever the the place may be,you know I mean and, and
somebody offer you or come up toyou with an idea or got
something or have somethinggoing on for the community, man

(51:19):
you know, extend your hand totry to be a part of it, because
you never know what coming fromit, and it don't have to be a
million dollars.
It could be a million dollarsworth of relationships or
resources.

Speaker 4 (51:29):
Because relationships is more than money, man.
That's a fact.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
Okay, okay, so alright.
From you not knowing what youeven going to do at a certain
age, all the way to now, youambassador for this, you
marketing for that.
You every time.
You, what are you marketing forthat?
You every town, you activist,basically.

Speaker 4 (51:53):
Nah, I'm a consultant .

Speaker 1 (51:55):
A consultant.
So from you not knowing whatyou was even going to do, period
all the way to that, now youdoing more things, that's in the
.
Tell the people how you wasable to maintain like the whole,
I was able to maintain likelike the whole.
I'm gonna be something like Ior I.
As long as I keep doing xyz,i'ma get xyz, explain to the

(52:19):
people with what those thosethings was that made you last,
and and get to where you need tobe.
You know man, just realizingthat the work not done, bro.

Speaker 4 (52:38):
The work not done, yeah, like you know, even with
me and everything I got going onright now, you know it's still
not my end goal, you know Okay.
My end goal is different thanyour end goal different than
your end goal different thanyour end goal you know, okay, my
end goal is different than yourend goal, different than your
end goal, different than yourend goal.
But I just don't think I'm atmy end goal yet.
That's what drives me, becauseI'm not there yet.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
You satisfied where you at right now, though.

Speaker 4 (53:01):
Not at all, not even a little bit, not even a little
bit, not even a little bit.
Man, because me and White wasjust talking about this man, you
got a lot to do.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
No, that ain't good all the time, though, cole.
Why For him to be doing all thethings he's doing and
succeeding and ain't satisfiedeven a little bit?
I mean, you got a lot more workto do.
No, no, that's being too hardon yourself, and that's why
people be, because, listen right, I'm pretty sure that right now
, all the things you need inlife I'm pretty sure you got

(53:37):
need, but all the things youwant is like that's what you
thinking about and that's whatyou shopping for.
And that's when we get caught,because I do that.
I'm a victim of that, likeCorey is too.

Speaker 4 (53:49):
We want to be the best of the best.
I can agree with that, but onlyto a certain extent.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
Me too.
Okay, to a certain extent.
To a certain extent, you needthat under your no, I'm not
saying that.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
I'm not saying it's bad to be like that.
He said he ain't satisfied, noteven a little bit, bro.

Speaker 3 (54:15):
You gotta understand the rooms he walking in and the
deals and stuff he hearing, bro,okay go ahead.

Speaker 4 (54:21):
My mom get up at seven o'clock in the morning, go
to work every day still.
That's why it's okay, see whatI'm saying okay, yeah my mom get
up at 7 o'clock.
I don't want my mom.
I want my mom to wake up whenshe feel like it.
Okay, I feel you If my mom feellike I want to go to Aruba
tomorrow and stay for a monthand I want my son to pay for it.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
I want to be able to do that I'm agreeing with what
you're saying.

Speaker 4 (54:50):
It's just like me, bro, I've been going.
I'm just saying like I'm ahustler.

Speaker 1 (54:56):
I like that, though, yo what he say.

Speaker 3 (54:59):
He say but I want my son to pay for it.

Speaker 4 (55:02):
Hold up Hold up.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
Because look right, because look this the thing, bro
, this is the thing, right.
A lot of people Go through thatLike a lot of people Like RABET
, this podcast and this ain't nointerview, I mean everybody
could put.
They input Me, for example,right, I really like been Back

(55:28):
and forth the jail placementsand all that Bro.
So when I reach the littleststuff, even though I know
there's way more work to do, butI be grateful and satisfied to
a certain point because I knowwhere my life was at and where
it can be at.

Speaker 4 (55:48):
Yeah, feel me no.
So I get what you said.
So I'm satisfied with them and,like I told White earlier, I
was like yo bro you got to cometo DC and come hang with me and
just, you know, celebrate yoursmall wins.
Yeah, you feel me.
That's crazy.
You know, like I told White, ifyou don't celebrate your small
wins, what the fuck are y'alleven doing this podcast for?

(56:09):
Like this is a great win fory'all.
Like y'all really doing thisshit in Philly, bro, in a tough
city to you know, really do shitin.
You get what I'm saying,especially something positive.
You get what.
I'm saying Toughest.
Yeah for sure, since y'alldoing something positive and

(56:31):
doing this movement, man, likesmall win, you'd feel me like
it's okay to white boy.
Come to dc, you get what I'msaying, come with me.
Like white boy said he was toobusy, I was like, bro, you're
not too busy for a good time,bro, because you have to
celebrate your small ones.

Speaker 3 (56:37):
My man always tell me that he'd be like bro you got
to, bro, you got to I'm reallyall this, and I'm one of them.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
I'm really one of them that don't have no fun.
That's crazy, I don't be goingnowhere, yeah, no, I definitely
feel that, though, because youcan't pay for fun.
Huh, and it's like you got tohave that self-love and
self-time.
Yeah, I'm coming out.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
I mean you can, but it ain't nothing like you got to
have that time for you Like.
Think about it, bro.

Speaker 4 (57:09):
We doing all this work to get money at the end of
the day, but at the same time,the only enjoyment you gonna get
out of this shit is Watchingeverybody else enjoy it.
And we all gonna come in herefresh as shit and look at each
other like come on, that's crazyyeah.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
That's crazy.
Yeah, so you saying I need togo out a little more?

Speaker 4 (57:27):
I'm saying you need to enjoy your time, enjoy my
more.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
I'm saying you need to enjoy your time.

Speaker 4 (57:31):
Enjoy my time.

Speaker 3 (57:31):
Say you need to enjoy yourself, but what I don't
because, because whatever thatis to you for, somebody else to
go enjoy their time on your time.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:39):
That what I mean by that.
Like my grandfather right.

Speaker 4 (57:42):
You're going to pay for a situation you only want to
be there all day but he, likeI'm not going to.

Speaker 3 (57:47):
he bless the family, you know like pass the money out
dirt bikes with the kids one.
But did my grandpa what?
Was he satisfied?
We need to think about thatright why he was it, you know.
I'm saying so like it just bethose small little things.
But we do work hard for ourfamilies and stuff so they can
enjoy it.
But you definitely gotta takethem a little small wins, I

(58:09):
ain't gonna lie bro, like I'd belooking at that like this right
like like see it like all right, lebron team versus the other
team.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
It's six seconds on the clock.
Somebody hit a three.
Start celebrating brown.
Like no, I don't celebrate,ain't over yet.
Like that's how I be Feelingabout when, like going out and
celebrating, like I be feelingyeah, I be feeling like I'm not
in the right Position To becelebrating.
Like I will celebrate For awhole week, if really the most
Ink a deal For our pie.

Speaker 4 (58:43):
Like things like that .
What is the right position?

Speaker 3 (58:46):
Let me tell you, our first time we should have
celebrated was that 10Ksubscribers.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
Yeah, we ain't do nothing.

Speaker 3 (58:53):
That's a celebration right there for me, and my eyes,
that's a small win.

Speaker 4 (58:57):
You got to celebrate the small wins, bro, it's not
easy to have 10K subscribers infive months on YouTube.

Speaker 1 (59:01):
Yeah, man, even like my birthday.

Speaker 3 (59:03):
Unless you doing something Tomorrow, now.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
It's past 12.
Yeah, it's past 12.
It's my birthday tomorrow.
Now, bro, I ain't doing likebro, like I'm like.

Speaker 4 (59:13):
I wasn't even going.
Man, come holler at me man.
Yeah, for sure, I got you man.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
So all right back Back to it you just jack of all
trades party promotion.

Speaker 3 (59:25):
He just gave you therapy just now, ducey
ambassador, marketing consultant.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
Like you, just jack are all trees.
So I'm gonna ask you this right, you said you ain't see
yourself saving people out doingthis, and that you said you
didn't see yourself doing a lotof things that you did.
So what do justin want to donow?
Like, what is justin fromsitting on his couch moving on
forward?
What's your goal?

Speaker 2 (59:52):
now.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
Like what is it now, since you know you got different
talents and abilities to dothings you didn't even know you
could do.

Speaker 4 (01:00:04):
Man, I think I'm back in a different type of mode.
I'm back in a different type ofmode.
I'm back halfway, not sayingI'm going backwards, but in a
sense like I'm here and I amproud of myself, where I am and
where I come from and what I'mdoing now.
I think I'm at that stage nowwhere I am thinking about what's

(01:00:25):
next, but I don't know whatthat looks like for me yet.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
Man, that's the what's next episode.
Man, what's?

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
next, what's next?
But I don't know what thatlooks like for me yet.
Okay, okay, okay, man.
That's the what's next episode,man.
What's next, what's?

Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
next man, real rap man, because I'm for real.
Like we can't just say it's solike my phone.

Speaker 4 (01:00:39):
I mean to cut you off , but like what?
I mean?
Like I don't know what's next.
It's like I know the positionsthat I am right now.
I can go higher in thempositions.
You get what I'm saying.
So, since I haven't reachedthem peaks yet, it's more like
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:00:57):
I'm still trying to figure it out because I'm still
trying to accomplish a you know.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:01:02):
Being where my dad is and plays.
One day you feel me.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
With that being said, make sure you share like
subscribe, comment, repost andif you want to see more of this
interview, man, make sure you goahead and tap in on our YouTube
channel andrealitermostpodcastcom.
Yes, sir.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
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Because it's free at charge$3.99.

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
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guys to get it, so buy it andtap out, man, Get it.

Speaker 4 (01:01:35):
Shout out to the most man.
Shout out to the pod.

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
Do you be getting annoyed, bro?
Keep it real, Like when youtell people who your dad is, bro
.

Speaker 4 (01:01:44):
Oh, you're like sharing that shit with me, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
I hate it.
Yeah, he started like.
That's why I said we going toget all that out the way.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
That's what I said when I said go on there and talk
about that type of shit.

Speaker 4 (01:01:55):
I don't want to introduce myself like that,
because you feel me I'd ratherfor you to fuck with me, because
you fuck with me.

Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
Yeah, because I ain't going to hold you, bro.
We only brung that up when wemet you and when you sit down on
the pod.
We never talk about Emory, likewe never.
So, yeah, when you're dead, wenever do that.
It's either when we met you andwhen you sat down for the pod
last time and this time.

Speaker 4 (01:02:17):
Because I tell niggas all the time like you know I
understand who he is now and youknow the influence he got now,
but that's still my dad's worldLike that is not emory vegas
jones.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
to me that is my dad, bro, that's it bro he wanted to
fly his in the culture, bro manand he got this mystique about
him because we just was hearingabout him for so long.
And I mean, then he finallycome home and then we see like,
so it's like.
That's why I know, that's whypeople be like damn, like, you
know what I mean.
Then they get to see you andshit, then you be fly.

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
So it'd be like, damn , like you know what I mean A
chip off the old block.
I mean.
He said $95,000 for a wine bill.
Keep it real with you, that wasa wine bill.
My whole team bro.
Real rap Like bro he bro.
The team ball real rap like brohe bro.
The things he.
That was crazy yo the things hebe saying be like, yo like, and

(01:03:21):
I always think it's never justhove.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
I always think about hove.
Your dad biggs um like just asa collective.
All of them feel me like it wasas a collective when you listen
to a reasonable doubt.
That's how hovev made it, likeyou know, I mean if everybody
click is rich, click is right.

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
You know he always put the whole you mean but I
ain't going to go, bro, likethat.
That.
What you doing with every townmeans it's powerful bro.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
Super like it's powerful.
Super.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
We definitely, definitely not going go on to
anything else without you.
And you can explain it to the tas much as you want.
I don't care how long you takeexplaining them what you're
doing in the dmv with them.

Speaker 4 (01:04:01):
Schools, bro oh, man, my business partner, neil man.
Uh, we was going back and forthfor probably like a year, man,
I wanted to really involvemyself into what Neil was doing.
Ever since I got introduced toEvertown by Tony and him you
know me and Neil have been goingback and forth, man, and you

(01:04:22):
know he came with me to a play.
He came with me to about 20, 25schools that you know.
Believed in our mission,believed in what we wanted to do
.
Every town just happened to backour engine into what we was
doing, man.
So we reached out to about Iwant to say, 10-plus schools
already, reached over to about1,200 to 1,400 students, man,

(01:04:45):
that all look like us, that allcome from where we come from.
Whether it was a conversation,we threw a couple concerts with
local DMV rappers that the kidslook up to, and everything, man,
and it was a beautiful thing tosee man.
So, like I said, man, shout outto Evertown, shout out to

(01:05:06):
Students, demand Action.
Just for you know, speakingwith me and being here, I
commend you, bro.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
shout out to every town, shout out to students to
be in action.
Just for you know, I commendyou, bro, I'm listening in the
dmv area.

Speaker 4 (01:05:20):
You know, is it?
You got a name for that story.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
It's the uh motivated , motivating your youth tour.
Motivated, motivate your youth.
Yeah, motivating your youthtour, all right.
So if you in a DMV, eric,because we are pulling up, you
know what I'm saying.
Really the most is pulling up.
You feel me.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
I know it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
After we do it for the kids, we going to do it for
the adult later at the club.
You feel what I'm saying, Iknow it what happens in DC stays
in DC man Real rap.
Nah, bro, it's just Yo.
One more thing, too A lot ofpeople.

(01:05:57):
One thing I noticed about mycity, bro a lot of people be
calling themselves somebodymanager and don't know what,
don't know what they doing,don't know what it consists of.
They be saying they theambassador for this.
I don't know what, don't knowwhat they doing, don't know what
it consists of.
They be saying they theambassador for this.
I don't know what it consistsof so can you like explain a
little bit, like all right,first stop, first start with

(01:06:19):
marketing consulting.
What's like the duties of withthat?

Speaker 4 (01:06:24):
um, it all depends who you marketing, consulting
for, but for every town, what me, manny and Tone do, it's more
just giving them the keys andthe jewel of how to approach
black youth about gun violence.
You know, it's not about themessage half the time it's

(01:06:45):
usually about the messenger whogive it to you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
The approach, you get what.

Speaker 4 (01:06:48):
I'm saying Like I could be.
For example, we could all goout with Philly right now, right
?
Mind you, this ain't my city.
You get what I'm saying, Right?
Somebody in the street mightsay I'm tripping, and maybe I
really am.
You get what I'm saying.
Maybe I'm tripping.

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:07:11):
It's the difference between them telling me I'm
tripping than white cash.
We're more pokey to say,because of you tripping.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:07:15):
Because I'm not going to take the message from him.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:07:18):
I'm taking from you, okay, and then just like these
kids that we're talking to.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
No, that's understandable.

Speaker 4 (01:07:23):
They only want less of the certain individuals.
I think about it.
Think about that dumb ass shitthey did us as kids, man.
What's that shit, we all wentthrough.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
The DARE program.
Remember that shit.

Speaker 4 (01:07:33):
You brought a white cop with a gun and a badge to
tell us to put the guns down andstop smoking weed and do this,
that and the third Right whenthe same white cop you in our
neighborhoods.
You robbing us, you kickingdown our doors, you stopping us
for no reason, you locking us up.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
You're kicking down our doors.
You're stopping us for noreason, you're killing us in the
middle of the street.

Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
You're locking us the fuck up.
Why the fuck am I going to golisten to you, nigga yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:07:55):
So you know what?
Just because it's you giving methe message, you don't the fuck
you.
The first thing we did ineighth and ninth grade we went
out and smoked some weed.
Nigga, Fuck this, Get the fuckout of here.

Speaker 3 (01:08:06):
So if it was a black cop you would have listened to
it.

Speaker 4 (01:08:09):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:08:10):
Man, you ain't listening either way.

Speaker 4 (01:08:12):
I'm not going to say no, I'm not going to say yes,
but I'm just telling you whatwas brought to me.
They brought a white cop in ourschool.

Speaker 3 (01:08:18):
And that was the message they preached to us.
We had this boy, mr Smith, brofrom their program and he will
pluck the hell hell out.
You like.
If you did something like youwouldn't even see it coming,
like the pluck behind the airdrone.
Like mr smith was a boy man,he's a plug.
No, they probably don't know whomr smith is, but mr smith was a

(01:08:38):
boy down our way in our schools, like if y'all know who mr
smith is, look that boy up.
He probably changed a lot ofpeople's lives before it went
there.
Yeah, yeah, man um the cash wasin jail, so yeah, I was in jail
.
No, dare nothing he didn't getto see all that that was there

(01:09:00):
they had damn, but he kind ofstopped them from going where
the young cash had to go.

Speaker 1 (01:09:08):
You, you know what I'm saying For real, for real.
That's why I'm in fixated withevery channel.

Speaker 4 (01:09:12):
What if Cash and I'm not saying you didn't have this,
I don't know but what if Cashhad a real big homie back in the
day that would've pulled Cashup and say nigga, you being
stupid right now, stop doingthat Never had it.
Imagine if Cash had a bigbrother, a big uncle, somebody
you know that was, if notanything else, a voice of reason

(01:09:35):
.

Speaker 3 (01:09:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:09:36):
You get what I'm saying, like I think that's what
we don't have, you get what I'msaying.
We don't have no voice ofreason.
The voice of reason is too oldand too stuck in the way that
they giving the message thewrong way.

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
That's why I commend you.
I commend Manny215.
Like it'd be important to getin front of that.
It's super important becausethese kids have to have
something else to look up toFacts.
Anything else is just going tofacts.

Speaker 4 (01:10:09):
now I mean facts of anything else is just gonna be
that and and with old they gottabe more than just your track
record, like yo.
Matter of fact, man, yo Iwatched, uh, uh, gillian wallow
interview.
Uh, hold it no with me.
Oh, with me, man, listen, Iagree with everything meek said.
Meek said nigga, we don't givea fuck about that.

(01:10:30):
Benz used to drop in 92.
We don't give a fuck about thatBenz.
You got right now.
We're not trying to hear allthat shit, y'all grew up on All
them old war stories, most ofy'all old niggas wasn't even,
you know respectfully as far aslike a household and being loved
the right way you know, havinga voice of reason.
Yeah, y'all ain't have that.
Yeah, how the fuck you gonnatell us to do something that

(01:10:53):
y'all niggas ain't have, Rightyeah?
Like get the fuck outta here.
Oh facts though that's a fact,you know who them niggas looked
up to.
They looked up to fucking drugdealers and all that shit like.
That's it, he do not lead in ablind fix to tell somebody got
to you know you want to changethe change the structure of shit

(01:11:17):
man and just realize like afterwe grew up on was bullshit.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
I told people all the time I'd be like yo, when you
come around me.

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
Bro, the stuff you learned in life you might have
to go and relearn, bro.
Fags bro, pick up a book and gorelearn.

Speaker 2 (01:11:32):
You got to deprogram yourself, to reprogram yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:11:35):
I say that shit all the time, maybe your brother or
sister.

Speaker 4 (01:11:40):
Nigga you ain't seen since fucking you a junior
senior in high school.
Come to you right now talkingabout Dina Nigga.
You don't fucking know me, man.
Nigga, we went to school witheach other, Nah for real though,
Nigga, I ain't seen you in 10,15 years bro, I am not the same
person bro.

Speaker 3 (01:11:57):
You cannot just walk up on me like that.
Not much shit changed in sixmonths.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
We went to school together.
That's six years.

Speaker 3 (01:12:02):
Not much shit changed in six months Bro.

Speaker 4 (01:12:04):
what talking about?

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
yeah, bro, I ain't gonna hold you like it's
definitely, definitely like Idon't.
Because all right people gottaunderstand that, like majority
of the time, the people who bein your position like like fell

(01:12:27):
and it's because they'll go tocollege that don't work out, or
they'll do this and that andthat don't work out, and then
they don't know how to reboundfrom it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:37):
Because they be silver spoon, bro, yeah, pivot.
Boom Spoon fed they pivot beshitty, and then they parents be
expecting them to bounce rightback off of being spoon fed and
don't go ahead and work.
How yeah, bounce right back offof being spoon fed now go ahead
and work, yeah yeah, you donegave everything to me, my whole
life.

Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
Yeah, and I'm not game is to be sold, not told
exactly, and I ain't gonna lie,bro, like I ain't gonna lie, bro
, for you to be like all right.
So I'm gonna tell you right toyour face how you came up like
us.
I'm gonna tell you how you sospecial Like you're really
really really special RightEverything that you doing right
now, you ain't even know you wasgoing to be doing Period, feel

(01:13:16):
me.
You ain't grow up saying youwant to market this or consult
that or ambassador that.
It just fell in your lap, bro,so that shows you right there.

Speaker 4 (01:13:33):
My dream growing up was every little boy's dream.
If you let me tell it, I wasgonna go hoop bro, I was gonna.
I fucked around paying for thesixes right now, nigga like, if
you would let me tell it, bro.
Three million other people too,bro, listen bro.
I literally did not know Iwould be doing the stuff I'm
doing.
I literally just happen to bumpinto everything and just happen

(01:13:53):
to have good relationships withpeople, yeah, but I want you to
really take heed to that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:59):
Take heed to what I said, though, bro.
For real, we know we got towork, work, work, work, work,
work, like Rihanna.
We know we got to do that.
Everybody know that.
We know the sky to do that.
Everybody know that.
We know the sky.
The sky is the limit, you knowwhat.
I'm saying but we still got togive ourselves the credit where
it's due.
Because that's how you overdoit.

(01:14:21):
You thinking accomplishmentsthat you received and
accomplished.
We thinking that ain't nothingbecause we trying to have nine
that you received andaccomplished.
We thinking that ain't nothingbecause we trying to have nine,
10, 11 figures in our joint anddo this and everything we want
to do.
But whole time your needs, liketaking care of yourself and

(01:14:42):
your household and staying up topar, making sure you don't look
dusty or you got food.
You got those.
Those are the needs.
So if you got all your needsand you saying you ain't
satisfied at all, not even alittle bit, then it's like all
right, maybe, maybe, maybe youthink I'm talking about the

(01:15:03):
business part yeah I thinkthat's what I'm talking.

Speaker 4 (01:15:06):
Okay, I'm not talking about me personally, Like no,
as far as me personally.
Man, listen, I'm healthy, myfamily healthy.
You know, I did lose mygrandfather recently.

Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
Same for your lungs, man, yeah thank you, my condoms.

Speaker 4 (01:15:20):
But outside of that, nah bro, I can actually say I'm
probably at for the long timebut, the most time I'm probably
at the most peace in my lifeI've been in.

Speaker 1 (01:15:32):
I like that man.

Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
I just think like damn, it's just so dope right to
meet you.
We didn't meet on the termslike people would think we would
meet on and then like for youto be who you are and then us
remain and obtain ourrelationship.
It's just dope, bro, bro, and Ilove what you're doing over

(01:15:54):
there, and I mean anytime I canhelp.
You know, we here, bro, ofcourse of course, man, of course
um.

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
Is it anything else?
You want your ig?
Tell them what you're workingon, tell them what they can
expect to the people out there.

Speaker 4 (01:16:13):
Nah, not really man.
I just want to say shout out toReal of the Most Podcast man.

Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
Shout out to White Cash and Core man.
Appreciate you, my boy.

Speaker 4 (01:16:21):
I want to give y'all y'all flowers and say yo, I
appreciate and love everythingy'all doing for the city of
Philadelphia.
Man, I definitely see that shitin DC.
Man, thank you for having me onyour pod, man for real man.

Speaker 1 (01:16:33):
Thank you bro.
Thank you Much obliged man.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:16:37):
Tell them your.

Speaker 4 (01:16:37):
Instagram name though man Justin Murray man.

Speaker 1 (01:16:40):
Justin Murray Everywhere man Okay, Everywhere
Okay, go ahead, white boy.

Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
So y'all know I mean it's rather than most.
So you know we can't leavey'all without doing this, and I
just want to let y'all suckersknow I mean, I got family in
high places, you know what I'msaying.

Speaker 3 (01:16:56):
You never know.
Like you know what I'm saying,it might be a rather than most
Roc Nation deal.

Speaker 2 (01:17:04):
Plains deal on the table for you.

Speaker 1 (01:17:06):
Suckers, you fucking nuts.

Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
So we ready to get into fast track.
Fast track we play.
It's a game we play on here.
It ain't nothing too crazy.
You just pick one or the other.
I normally start with this one.

Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
I'm still going to no you got to choose you got to
choose.

Speaker 3 (01:17:24):
I ain't going to make it that hard.
You're going to be able to picksomebody so.

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
No, because we realized it was.
I mean going to my best stateproperty or major figures State
property Wiley or shot Lizzie,shot Lizzie.

Speaker 2 (01:17:47):
Or Shag Lizzy, shag, lizzy Um.

Speaker 4 (01:17:54):
And when I answer this, it's all love and
everything but.

Speaker 3 (01:17:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:17:58):
Who I prefer or who I probably just gotta yeah, yeah
who I actually know All right UmG-Unit or Diplomats, diplomats
G unit or diplomats Monica orKeisha cold Monica.

(01:18:23):
Chris Brown or Usher.

Speaker 4 (01:18:29):
Usher.

Speaker 2 (01:18:31):
Usher Rockefeller or Rough Riders Rockefeller.
Yeah, thank God, I'm so glad Istill got acid pussy Go-go.
Uh, go, go, go, go or a drill.

Speaker 1 (01:18:58):
Huh.

Speaker 4 (01:19:01):
Go go.

Speaker 1 (01:19:02):
Go go.

Speaker 4 (01:19:03):
Go go.
Go, go, All right, bet Um drill, because drill overrated
depending on who doing it.
So go, go like, because if I'mgoing to say drill, I'm only
going to think of really likethree or four people.

Speaker 2 (01:19:16):
I'm going to keep it real bro.
I fucking love go go music bro.
I fucking love go go music bro.

Speaker 4 (01:19:24):
Bro, I fucking love, go, go go.
Then we take that nigga toBabylon on a Wednesday Wild out,
i'ma go crazy in there bro.

Speaker 2 (01:19:33):
I'ma go crazy in there bro.
I love Gold bro.

Speaker 4 (01:19:36):
Yo, y'all gotta bring White to DC, bro, and I love
when Wale.

Speaker 2 (01:19:41):
I love when Wale do a Go-Go record or a Glizzy.
I like when the regular rappertype niggas do the Go-Go records
.
I love that shit.

Speaker 3 (01:19:50):
Fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:19:51):
Jeezy with Circa Late .
I love them.
Goggle records, bro.

Speaker 1 (01:19:55):
There you go, let's go.

Speaker 4 (01:19:57):
You ready, yup.

Speaker 3 (01:20:00):
Shout out Glizzy Wild A I just said that bro.

Speaker 2 (01:20:04):
I ain't hear you say that my fault he is crazy, my
fault.

Speaker 3 (01:20:08):
I ain't hear you say that.

Speaker 4 (01:20:10):
Well, how?

Speaker 3 (01:20:10):
many you said.

Speaker 4 (01:20:12):
He said like four or five.

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
I gave him a clip.
You did eight of them.
I gave him a clip.

Speaker 3 (01:20:16):
Couldn't even get none off.

Speaker 2 (01:20:18):
I shot my clip.
This thing's about.
Here we go.

Speaker 3 (01:20:20):
Because I'm trying to keep it.
I'm like let's keep thisrolling.

Speaker 1 (01:20:32):
Let's get to the next game.
Come on, let's get this rolling.
How many of you put up againsthim?
What's the nigga name?
It's the boy name who gotlocked up.

Speaker 4 (01:20:40):
Y'all ain't name no Philly rappers.
Y'all ain't do none of that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:44):
Are you on Philly?

Speaker 3 (01:20:46):
We going to do one guy to go.

Speaker 2 (01:20:47):
No hold.
On, Go ahead, you want to doPhilly?
No hold on.
Go ahead.

Speaker 4 (01:20:50):
You wanna do Philly.

Speaker 2 (01:20:51):
Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 4 (01:20:53):
You can, it's not gonna be Shoot.

Speaker 2 (01:20:55):
Why you holding your clip Shoot Go ahead All right
Shoot.

Speaker 1 (01:20:58):
Yo.

Speaker 3 (01:21:00):
Bet you.

Speaker 1 (01:21:02):
Quilly or Joey Jihad.

Speaker 4 (01:21:08):
Joey, joey For me, like bro.
I remember like when we firsteven started listening to Philly
Battle Rap man, I was in middleschool.
We used to watch that shit allday, every day, in our like
laptops, like to the point Iknow some of them freestyles by
heart to this day, damnfreestyles by heart to this day.
Like I'm talking like JahagQuilly, nh Reed Meek, all the

(01:21:38):
like, bro.

Speaker 3 (01:21:39):
We really listened to them.
Freestyles on the DMV back inthe day.
Go ahead, cash.

Speaker 1 (01:21:43):
All right, Meek or Reed.

Speaker 4 (01:21:46):
Meek Meek.

Speaker 1 (01:21:47):
Yeah, all right.

Speaker 4 (01:21:50):
I think Meek y'all best rapper in Philly overall.

Speaker 1 (01:21:54):
So I'm going to say Meek versus anybody.

Speaker 4 (01:21:55):
Yeah, that's fair.
Yeah, and that's bias too, likethat's probably one of my
favorite rappers, so I'm biased.

Speaker 1 (01:22:03):
Who Meek?
Yeah, all right, bet All right.
We're going to do One God go,cause he said a lot of them.
So we going to do one guy to go.
You burnt us out.
So this is just the opposite.
You just asked me who Ilistened to no not him.

Speaker 3 (01:22:19):
Not you, not you, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (01:22:21):
We going to do one guy go, all right.
So this is of here.
You feel me?
Yeah, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:22:31):
That's what I was waiting on.

Speaker 1 (01:22:34):
Me Um NH Meek Reed or Joy J NH.
We got to go All right, bet,bet, bet Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:22:58):
Want me to shoot one for the hood?
Uh-huh, I got one for you.
Go ahead, State pop Beans.
Chris Freeway.

Speaker 1 (01:23:09):
Beans young Chris Freeway.

Speaker 3 (01:23:11):
Oskino.

Speaker 1 (01:23:13):
Yeah, no, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:23:14):
Oh yeah, Oskino.

Speaker 1 (01:23:16):
Beans.

Speaker 4 (01:23:18):
Who got to go?
Hold on, say that list again,beans.

Speaker 3 (01:23:21):
Beans, chris Freeway.

Speaker 1 (01:23:23):
Oskino Beanie Single Young.
Chris Freeway and Oskino.

Speaker 4 (01:23:29):
Oskino who got to go.
I can't choose what Yo.

Speaker 1 (01:23:33):
Beanie single young Chris freeway and Oskeno.
Oskeno, who got to go?
I can't choose what Yo you gotto choose, you got to choose.

Speaker 3 (01:23:37):
Somebody got to go.
They got to pack their bags,man.

Speaker 4 (01:23:43):
Beans freeway, chris and Oskeno Oskeno.

Speaker 3 (01:23:51):
Who got to go?
Bro, One of them got to go.
Who you keeping?
All right, just say who the topthree you going to keep.

Speaker 2 (01:24:02):
That's hard bro.

Speaker 3 (01:24:04):
Keep your top three out of the way.
All right, O'Skina might go.

Speaker 1 (01:24:08):
Hold on O'Sk right Skeeno might go Hold on Skeeno
yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:24:12):
Hold on Beans Freeway , chris and Skeeno.
Damn, I don't know bro, Ireally don't bro, I really don't
bro, I really don't bro, Damn.

Speaker 3 (01:24:28):
Yeah, we might got to skip that one.
I don't know, bro.
It's really optional for real,for real on that joint.

Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
It's whoever, but Jeezy TI Gucci man, yo Gotti One
got to go.

Speaker 4 (01:24:42):
TI For me.
Why y'all?

Speaker 3 (01:24:46):
be playing with TI like that.
I don't like that y'all do thatto my man.

Speaker 4 (01:24:50):
I ain't even playing with him paper planes.
You can't do that, yo listenwhen I'm even doing this, I'm
just doing off like who wasinfluential for me at one point
or another.
I remember specifically bangingGucci mixtapes every fucking
morning before school.

Speaker 1 (01:25:08):
I respect that your Gotti was more influenced than
you, than TI, bro.
Listen, bro Gotti, she mixtapes every fucking morning
before school.
I respect that.
So your Gotti was moreinfluenced than you, than TI.

Speaker 4 (01:25:12):
Bro listen bro, gotti out all the way, bro Listen bro
.

Speaker 2 (01:25:16):
Five-star chick.
I need a five-star chick.
Bro, bro, bro.

Speaker 4 (01:25:18):
What?
That nigga back in the day?
To us that might have been atrap.
Nigga diary back in the day,bro, like real shit bro, y'all
be going crazy Like I can't evenimagine.

Speaker 2 (01:25:33):
You know DC and Gotti got a real yeah, like, bro like
.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:25:38):
Gotti own part of like a soccer team out there
Like he's a piece of our soccerteam in DC.

Speaker 2 (01:25:41):
Yeah, gotti, influence out.
Dc is crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:25:44):
He one of the first rappers that embraced Shot
Glizzy like early on.
Matter of fact, he was the onlyrapper that really embraced
Shaw Glizzy early on.
Back in the day like that yeah,hell yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:25:54):
The real bassist.
God he was like the first firstone.

Speaker 1 (01:25:56):
All right, I'm going to do it.
I'm going to do it three ways.

Speaker 3 (01:25:59):
No, it's different.

Speaker 1 (01:26:01):
I'm going to do it three this time.
I'm going to say three people.

Speaker 4 (01:26:24):
Fat Troll Shaw.

Speaker 1 (01:26:24):
Fat Trail, sha or Wale.
One gotta go.
Man niggas, you got him ontrail.

Speaker 4 (01:26:29):
For me, and I'm always saying for me, Wale might
gotta go.

Speaker 1 (01:26:36):
Oh shit, damn, Because people really don't
understand how much Trell really.

Speaker 2 (01:26:42):
Yeah, they love Gleef , they ain't going nowhere.

Speaker 1 (01:26:45):
No, I'm saying like musically, though.
That's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 4 (01:26:48):
That's what.

Speaker 1 (01:26:49):
I'm only talking about Nah, everybody don't know
that, bro.
I'm like musically, thoughthat's what I'm talking about.
I'm only talking about.
Everybody don't know that, bro.
I'm talking about DC, though.

Speaker 4 (01:26:55):
Philly might not know that, but DC gonna know that.

Speaker 2 (01:26:57):
And listen, bro, there's no disrespect to Wale
bro, like period bro, but likeyou know, wale more for the
ladies, you know that's notsomething I'm just going to bang
in my car every day, ladies,you know, that's not something
I'm just going to bang in my carevery day.
I love for Lauren, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:27:11):
He just got hung over the balcony and his feet was in
the air and all that they weresaying it's making it crazy
Babyface Ray.

Speaker 2 (01:27:17):
I don't know.
Babyface Ray, pz Doughboy Cashout in Rio.
One got to go.

Speaker 1 (01:27:29):
White boy, what Doughboy, doughboy, doughboy.

Speaker 2 (01:27:34):
Go ahead Cash.

Speaker 4 (01:27:35):
What you say, gaga, whoever Doughboy.

Speaker 1 (01:27:37):
Cash Doughboy.

Speaker 2 (01:27:37):
Cash out.

Speaker 1 (01:27:39):
Oh yeah, yeah, Probably in that list he had to
go for me, yeah that's for real.
All right, man, it's the lastone, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:27:47):
Last one.

Speaker 1 (01:27:48):
Ain't no person who what they.
You know what I mean.
Just what they did in theculture.
Nothing personal, Please don'ttake it personal Birdman who
gotta go.

Speaker 3 (01:28:01):
Yeah, Birdman.

Speaker 1 (01:28:02):
P Diddy Jay-Z or Dr J .

Speaker 3 (01:28:12):
One gotta go.

Speaker 1 (01:28:13):
That mean everybody signed the shit.
They produced everything going.

Speaker 3 (01:28:17):
One of them gotta go.
Who gotta pack they bags?
Oh man, Somebody gotta get asuitcase.

Speaker 4 (01:28:25):
Them and everybody they with though.

Speaker 1 (01:28:28):
Anything they did.

Speaker 3 (01:28:29):
Anything they did, accomplished, worked with,
signed gone.

Speaker 4 (01:28:36):
To me it got to be Master P, because my go-to is
Jay and Wayne.

Speaker 1 (01:28:40):
I ain't see Master P.
We ain't see Master P.
What?
Do y'all say that's why Ialways see T Kim out, jay-z,
uh-huh, right, birdman, birdman.
Dr Dre and Diddy.

Speaker 4 (01:28:52):
Oh, diddy gone.
No personal, it's not personal.

Speaker 2 (01:28:55):
Biggie though.

Speaker 3 (01:28:58):
Biggie 112?
Mary J.

Speaker 1 (01:29:02):
Face up, you got to think about that before you get
answering bro, you got to.

Speaker 4 (01:29:06):
I mean I'm going to keep Mary J.
You said Jay.

Speaker 1 (01:29:10):
I said Jay--z dr jp diddy berman mary j found the
locks too.

Speaker 3 (01:29:17):
Now she did david's mary j artist.
So just be aware who you gonnacut.
So just be aware of who you'regoing to cut.
You got to cut big On the go,or what.

Speaker 4 (01:29:31):
What were you doing?
No, I ain't doing nothing thatain't even an option for him.
What is the?
Fuck man Nigga, try to set meup man.

Speaker 3 (01:29:45):
He got cut on the go.
Hey, yo they be cut off on thisdoor.
Man, I'm like for real, I ain'tgoing to hold you, bro.

Speaker 4 (01:29:52):
now that we did it like this, bro, I'm still an
East Coast.
Baby Draymond got to go.

Speaker 3 (01:29:57):
Okay, I always say that I'm an East Coast baby at
the end of the day.

Speaker 1 (01:30:00):
Yeah, and that be.
People answer like they coulddo without the West.
I don't think that that's whatit is.
But without no West Coast, youdon't get no Yo listen, listen.

Speaker 4 (01:30:13):
I'm talking about as far as our generation.
I ain't talking about the oldergeneration.

Speaker 3 (01:30:18):
But I'm saying everything they did though that
old school Ice Cube boy.

Speaker 1 (01:30:23):
Everything they did, from old to new.
But if Dr J for you, that's foryou.
I just know how important thatthe West Coast music is.

Speaker 3 (01:30:33):
Shout out to everybody we mentioned man, we
not?

Speaker 4 (01:30:36):
getting rid of nobody .
For real, we not getting rid ofnobody.

Speaker 3 (01:30:39):
This is a great discussion on our culture.

Speaker 4 (01:30:41):
I'm an East Coast baby bro, because in my personal
rap list Hov and Wayne wasn'teven an option to go.
Those is my ghosts.
You get what I'm saying?
Yeah.
Like Hov and Wayne is my tworap ghosts period.
So they wasn't going nowhere.
So Birdman couldn't go just offof that Right.

(01:31:02):
So it was between West Coastand when we really broke down
Diddy, like you broke down BigMary and all them.
I ain't getting rid of all that.

Speaker 2 (01:31:13):
I can't bro Listen.

Speaker 4 (01:31:15):
Mary alone.
Listen.
Mary alone every Saturdaymorning at 8 o'clock in the
morning is cleaning and yougonna smell pine salt.
And listen to Mary.

Speaker 1 (01:31:24):
And then people don't be understanding, bro, bro,
like 112, carl Thomas.

Speaker 4 (01:31:29):
And then people don't be understanding, bro, bro,
like facts, like what y'all know, that I was like yeah, that's a
lot.

Speaker 1 (01:31:31):
112, Carl Thomas, I think Donnell Jones as well, I
think Tim as well, Like MarioWilliams, All them little acts
that he Day 26.
Whoa Black Rob, Craig Mack,Flavin' Air Like Sean.
Sean, one of the best lyricistsin the world the Mace, the Lox,

(01:31:57):
like how is you even going?
And we can even take it.
The new French Montana, his son, who else?
Machine Gun Kelly, yup, yup, hewas bad boy last train to Paris
.

Speaker 2 (01:32:14):
Last train to Paris people gotta understand.

Speaker 1 (01:32:19):
Like bro, diddy probably got the best air and
music period he probably got.
Who else got a better air thanhim?
Air like that person got talent, come here.
Diddy got the best.
Ain't nobody over him.

Speaker 3 (01:32:32):
On the East Coast.

Speaker 1 (01:32:33):
No, period, bro, Don't nobody got a better who Dr
Dre?
One of them boys.
He is Bro Dr Dre, bro Eventhough we get rid of him.

Speaker 2 (01:32:45):
No, Diddy produced more stars than Dr.

Speaker 1 (01:32:47):
Dre Diddy listens like this.
Dr Dre's probably like that.
Who said that?
Compare Diddy work with Drework?
Diddy is way over him.

Speaker 2 (01:32:55):
Who said that it's the books, what it's history I'm
going to just, we probablygoing to have to come back to
this bro.

Speaker 1 (01:33:02):
Bro, I don't know what you talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:33:04):
Real talk this the Rilla the most podcast.
I'm your host, Rilla.

Speaker 1 (01:33:07):
I'm Outta World Cash.
I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:33:08):
White Boy D2A.
We got Justin in the building.

Speaker 1 (01:33:12):
My guy.
I appreciate you for signingthrough.

Speaker 2 (01:33:13):
I appreciate you and we're going to part two.

Speaker 3 (01:33:16):
We're going to be in DC Facts.

Speaker 2 (01:33:17):
Facts Live from DC Soon Live from DC Coming soon.

Speaker 3 (01:33:22):
Facts let's get it.

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