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D Jones sits down with the Real of the Most podcast to deliver a masterclass in hip-hop longevity and street authenticity that's as rare as it is valuable in today's industry landscape.

The Philadelphia legend takes us deep into his journey from North Philly's Delhond Dolphin neighborhood, where he started as a young T-shirt runner observing the block's dynamics before finding his voice through rap. With remarkable candor, he reconstructs the electric energy of Philly's DVD era – a pivotal moment when raw talent was captured on camera and distributed throughout the city, creating a breeding ground for some of hip-hop's most distinctive voices.

What sets this conversation apart is Jones' profound understanding of his own place in the ecosystem. "I couldn't rap as good as Had," he admits about another Philly legend. "So I had to find what I do. It don't got to be better than what nobody do. It just got to be what I do." This philosophy of authentic self-expression rather than imitation has been the cornerstone of his remarkable staying power in an industry that regularly discards artists after their fifteen minutes.

The most riveting moments come when Jones recounts how his music transcended entertainment to become a genuine force in his community. When Jadakiss came to film a video in his neighborhood, rival factions declared a ceasefire: "The nigga pulled up on me, said yo bro, that shit is off tonight. This is your hood Jones, it's off." Such stories illuminate the real-world impact that authentic artists can have beyond streams and views.

Whether you're a die-hard hip-hop head, an aspiring artist, or simply someone who appreciates stories of perseverance, this conversation offers genuine wisdom about defining success on your own terms. Follow D Jones on all platforms and check out his latest project "Still Counting Blessings" to experience the evolution of a true Philadelphia hip-hop original.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
It's White Boy D2A, I'm Rollin' and we just wrapped
up the craziest, craziestinterview.
Sam, hold me down for the lightskin niggas.
Yeah, yeah, I got my fuckingboys.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
I got some brother-in-law.
I got some brother-in-law.
Y'all didn't know that.
Yeah, yeah, brother-in-law.
Yeah, yeah, wow.

Speaker 4 (00:29):
That pipe-boarding wall.
It's William Silverstein andthe building bro Some on the
camera.
That's crazy.
That's crazy and a certainthing is a certain way.
There's a certain package.
I'm trying to be here.
I might have to do certainthings that might be, but if

(00:49):
this is really make, sure y'allshare, like, subscribe comment.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
If you don't, you're a motherfucker, hey that's why,
oh man, that's another show 1.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
Oh man, it's another show man, really the most.
They can't stop this shit, youbetter know it.
They can't do this shit, youbetter know it.
Look this core networkingUh-huh, really the most podcast,
uh-huh.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
D2A.

Speaker 4 (01:20):
Got white boy D2A.
You better know it and we got aspecial guest today.
D2a Got white boy.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
D2A, you better know it.
We got a special guest today,very special guest today.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
You want to introduce .
Or you want to do a walk downbefore you introduce.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
We just going to do it the right way, the real of
the most way.
So I mean today we havePhiladelphia's own, one of the
top spitters coming out ofPhiladelphia, been doing it for
20 plus years.
Some bro you know, actually oneof the pioneers of the DVD era.

(01:55):
If you ever heard of Headshots,he's one of the prominent
people you know.
You fast forward certain peopleto get to this person.

Speaker 4 (02:03):
Okay, you know what I'm saying you fast forward
certain people to get to thisperson okay, yeah, I'm saying
you fast

Speaker 2 (02:06):
forward certain people to get to this person on
that okay in that era mepersonally I mean so, uh, you
know, and um, I'm gonna say aninnovator.
Why?
Because before you that thatunorthodox flow in our era it
wasn't really cool until youkind of made it cool.

(02:26):
You feel me?
Yeah, today, on Real of theMost, we got D Jones in the
building y'all D.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
Jones is in the building, real of the Most, you
better know it.
I'm happy to be here, man.
I appreciate you.
That was a hell of a rollout.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
I like that.
I appreciate you man, youdeserve it.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
I appreciate that Philly man you deserve it.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
I appreciate that Philly man, philly Philly's on
and just through your journeyand this music thing and just
life period, you've been able tohold your name up honorably on
that tip and on a music tip.
So you know those type of menwe commend over here.
That's why this shit calledRilla the Most yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Yeah, I appreciate that, man.
What's up with the guys?
Man we chilling, man what's?

Speaker 2 (03:08):
up man, how you feeling, cora, how you going
today my boy, I'm good man.
You got these hoes in thebuilding.
Man Coming off your anniversary, you know what I'm saying my
boy.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
I'm wearing my towel from out the bathroom.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
Yo, I'm going to set a skate.
I'm going to set a skate, youknow Yo, like you just said, man
D Jones been putting in work.

Speaker 4 (03:36):
Man, you can look back 15 years and go search the
product.
Man, it's out there.
Man, From him freestyling inthe DVD era to even him now
dropping music, now Current,which a lot of people from the
DVD era are not able to do.
No diss, but respectfully wegiving them his props.

(03:57):
Yeah, so go ahead.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
White boy, let's do what you do, okay.
So, jones, you know we onreally the most podcasts when
you from.
Tell our guests and our viewerswhere you from.
Let's do what you do, okay.
So, jones, you know what I'msaying.
You know we on really the mostpodcasts when you from.
Tell our guests and our viewerswhere you from.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
I'm from North Philly .
North Philly, yeah, I'm fromDelhond, dolphin Delhond.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Dolphin.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
Legendary Delhond.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Dolphin, delhond, dolphin.
Okay, you know, we come fromthose environments where you
know, our earlier influencesdon't be from like TV or like
they be like the people that beeven in our house or right

(04:37):
outside our door, like.
Give me a few of thoseinfluences coming up early, like
.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
All of like the older niggas from around my way, just
who?

Speaker 2 (04:47):
influenced you early, before the rappers start
influencing you.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
I had older cousins that was into it, so I would see
a lot of how they was moving.
I had a next door neighbor overmy way, jeff Free, big Lads,
just a lot of old heads.
My old head, ed, was getting toit Weaver from around my way,
so I had old heads that I wasalready.
I was a T-shirt young boy,though I had to go get the
T-shirt so I was already hit.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Oh, so you were the young boy.
Give me the white T-shirt.
Yeah, I was him.
I was that as a young boy.
Keep the change and all that.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
Yeah and I there.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
That's how I started.
That was my first little moves.
That's how I learned how toshoot dice, because I would sit
around the dice games and watchthat.
But I'm like what you doing?
I'm about to go get t-shirts.
Okay, that was my life.
So I was there.
So I was on the cornerswatching that shit.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
So yeah, you was more of the observation board.
Yeah, you was watchingeverything and picking up on
stuff.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Right, right, right.
So you know you having that,you having those people, that's
right there, that's earlyinfluences to you and you know
we in Philly.
So just give me the soundtrackaround that time, like what's
some of the music that's playingat that time?

Speaker 1 (05:59):
Big.
I'm hearing a lot of it's bigthe figures.
Hearing the figures around thattime this early Mack this
Cosmic Strictly skills thousandbars.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Oh, this is perfect for me.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
This is when you turning on Kev every Friday.
Yeah, you're not missing it.
Kev's just going on, he's inthe car, he's on, he listening
to Kev, this one Kev stillgiving you street news Bangas.
Yes, so this that.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
This, that I'm hearing, that, I'm hearing that.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
This me getting put on the hoes.
This is me hearing all thattype shit Hip hop.
Yeah, like I'm coming outsideand I'm understanding why all
this shit go together.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
Okay, Now you remember what we talked about
last night before we left hereright.
Yeah, that hit perfect rightnow, right, so look, let me ask
you.
You know, this is my memory,right?
Rockefeller signing BeanieSiegel, old Skeen, old, young,
chris.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Right.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
And having them all at the radio station going crazy
up the radio station.
And right after that I'm notgoing to get too deep into it,
but right after that the DVD erayou know what I'm saying when
Philly rappers was just goingextra, extra hard, like Paul's.

(07:22):
But, no, I'm just tell me ifI'm right.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
I'm not alright.
Go ahead, my boy man you alwaysdo this shit.

Speaker 4 (07:30):
Go ahead.
I'm speeding now you super.
You went 90.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
I was on the highway, alright we gonna do it right
then go ahead, man you doing 90in the right bro, slow down.
I thought he was there.
No, bro, you see how I'mcooking.
Let me do this where we was atyou doing 90 in the right bro,
slow down.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
I thought he was there.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
No, bro, you see how I'm cooking what he said, what
he said.
Let me handle this, bro.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
Where we was at.
Let me handle this, bro.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
All right, bro, I'm speeding bro Boom.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
This time you know what I mean.
Wow Power 99, DJ Cosmic Kev.
This is 98, 99,.
We ready to go in 2000.
This is where you went, how yougo from we go from.
Power 99, 98, 99, 2000, rightto the DVD era.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
So where all the Because?
Where Rockefeller Freestylescoming at?

Speaker 2 (08:18):
That's 2001 and 2000.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
Oh, all right, all right all right, you speed, you
speed, slow down.
What happened in between that?

Speaker 2 (08:26):
We about to get to it .
All right, let's go.
All right.
So here we go.
This better be pivotal Now nownow.
Now, jonesy, you coming up, youlistening Da Figures, big Early
Mac, power 99, street Bangers isgoing crazy, now Crazy.
Now you know what I um power 99, street bangers is going crazy

(08:47):
now.
Now you, you know, I mean youas the kid running to go get the
T-shirts and and you listeningto these, these, these sounds,
and you hearing this musicthat's coming out of
Philadelphia, like now, like,are you like intrigued at the
point where, as though, like,maybe I can do this or you, or
you, just a casual fan?

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Lil Jon, no, I'm in it.
Rob Markman, lil Jon, you in it.
Lil Jon, yeah, I'm the youngboy that's writing raps and I
got a little book I'm writingraps.
My mom finding it, I'm doingall that.
Rob Markman, yeah, karaokemachine.
Lil Jon, yeah, the only thing,all that, we in the house, we
forming our own little groups,we doing all that shit, right, I
think the only thing that kindof helped me like my mom was

(09:30):
with that shit.
She was listening to rap andall that Hip-hop, baby, yeah.
So she was like let me hear it.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
Spit that shit, spit it boo, go ahead, boo.
And I was like this is crazyRight.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
All right, I kind of was like I was in it for real.
Yeah, I knew what I wanted todo.
I'm going to do this shit.
Ok, something in this shit, I'mgoing to find a way to do some
initiative, right, I just wasn'tstepping out with it as much.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
OK, you know what I'm saying.
So you just was like doing it,but people didn't know you did
it.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
No, no, only people like the few, like the homies.
Yeah, when the homies doing it,I might do it.
I don't get out of here bro.
Right, I used to get that.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
OK, you knew what you wanted to do, though.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Yeah, but I my approach just was always
different from when it was doing.
Ok because I was like I wasalways trying to put something
so real in it at the time whenniggas was doing the my watch,
my watch so bright, the sun isjealous Like when niggas was
having bars like that.
I didn't have those kind ofbars, right, I had more

(10:36):
realistic shit and it used to belike mm.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Okay, where you know this from Mm Okay, so, okay.
So that's good to know, because, listen, the next go right, we
coming in, we coming into a partwhere, all right, now you into
hip hop, but now you like yourap and now you getting more
into like learning the craft ofcadences and flows and what you

(11:03):
want to say and how importantyou speaking.
So now it's like, okay, I gotto be more aware of flows and
cadences, but this is early.
This is not like it's big.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
That's because it's big.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
I was a, so you was rapping when big was a lot.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
No, I liked how big.
Oh, I Big was alive.
No, I liked how Big.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
Oh, I was about to say I always liked how.
Big rapped, so when?

Speaker 1 (11:28):
I felt like I wanted to be a rapper.
It was no other.
It was no other like, make,like architect for me to pick
but that one like the fuck.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
like he used some pit words again.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
I'ma sit back and I'ma look and be like he used to
pick words again.
I'm gonna sit back and I'mlooking black.
I'm a fat nigga Duh.
I'm going with the obviousanswer.
He showed me how to do italready, right, all right, now
just do what he did your way.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Okay, so now.
So now, right for Jones.
Where do it come, all right?
Where do it come All right?
Now I'm stepping outside thebox and I'm doing this.
Where's though, the hood know?

Speaker 4 (12:06):
What year is that?

Speaker 1 (12:12):
01, 02?
Because this is what happened.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
I'm sure you was going to get me, look, you saw
it, look, look.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
It's like 01, yeah, Look like 01, yeah, Look like 01
, 02.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
All right, so go ahead, we coming outside a
little bit.
The DVD coming though.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
We coming outside a little bit so you were recording
what On cassettes, what youdoing, we recording on.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
Yeah, we were on karaoke machines.

Speaker 4 (12:39):
How old?

Speaker 1 (12:39):
were you, we like 12, 13 trying this shit and it's
like 01.
Had just had came back fromCalifornia and he rapped
Blatantly, he raps.
Okay.
Now, before he left, everybodywas just like Rapping with some
regular.
He went to California for thesummer.
When he came back he rappedFull blown yeah, he rapped.

(13:03):
So everybody was like we got torap, we got to step blown yeah,
he rapped.
So everybody was like we gottarap, we gotta step out.
Man, niggas is writing raps,niggas is trying to write.
I gotta write a rap and Iprobably was the last one to
figure it out, but I figured itout.
I had to figure my way out fromtrying to rap.
Rock was hot as shit.
Head was hot.

(13:24):
Rome got a deal with Takedown.
This shit is like.
These niggas is around my wayrapping their ass off.
Slaughter Rico is the old headhe keeps spinning the block
every now and then.
Him and Hag go battle once aweek Like this is what I'm
dealing with Slaughter Rico.
I'm going to then look fromthat.
I'm learning.
I'm getting it All right.
I think I got it.
I'm getting in a couple ofciphers.
I go to high school.

(13:45):
I'm in Penn, it's me, it's Dunn, it's Cicero, it's Hollywood.
These are the niggas that sendmy lunch from ciphers.
I'm losing you know what.
I got a plan.
I'm going to step back and IEvery fucking DVD that was a DVD

(14:05):
of VHS before Bob and not oneof them niggas put me on You'll
see me in the back.
Every DVD had on.
That's why niggas used tothought I was like the Adler
niggas, because niggas didn'tgive me the spin.
You used to kill that though Ihad.
I learned how to do that forJoe Because with Cicero and him
with him.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
But you see, all right, I learned how to do that
for Joe because with Cicero andhim with it, but you see, but
all right.
So now we at the end.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
This is 05, 04.
This is right before the DVDshit started.
Yeah, so I hyped that battle up.
We in school, cicero, want tobattle me, you know before that
is Splipstar, flea for Flea.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Like you feel me, like you, bored in the hole,
ever hyping your mans up, theystill do it to this day.
Know what I mean?
Right, they might grab, grab.
You know what I mean Pit bull,you.
You know what I'm saying, bro.
It's a lot of shit thatsnapping.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
Yeah, yeah, Bro I don't.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
I don't Bro, I just do that shit bro.

Speaker 4 (15:01):
Yeah, so where I was getting to.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Now we here.
See see, look, just let himlook, just let him do his little
segue Now we here, now we here,come on, now we here.
So look Now we here.
Yeah, baby.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
Y'all boys crazy, yo, you crazy Like.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
We got Bill collecting the building, y'all,
y'all see that.
That's really my man.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
I've been fucking with Bill forever, Because that
affected all of us.
We can't sit here and act likeRockefeller on the radio, Philly
State property rapping.
We ain't go grab them tapes, nowe dead Bro hearing.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Flex, scream he only 16.
Crazy, Every young nigga in thecity feel like hearing Flex
scream.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
he only 16.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
Crazy, every young nigga in the city feel like I
ain't hot enough yet I got toget hotter, like it Hearing
Chris rap like that, bro lookit's all right From that joint.
There's moments that I'm nevergoing to forget Hearing that he
only 16, when Ose got me runningthrough the aisle fucking my
boots up.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
You want to go to war ?
Call the troops up and when andwhen and when I'm feeding with
the bucket he washed in thecoupe, that's up.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Bro, he went, I got what you need, whatever you want
and the chain's so heavy.

Speaker 4 (16:12):
You got to walk with a hunk, bro.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
He was going down Word on the streets.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
I'm still a man.
Any rapper you get KC.
See me when Free did the.
I'm sitting on it dreamingabout it.
Oh my Bro.
We used to walk home fromschool and argue about who going
to be who.
My man, be like.
No, bro, you'll be Freewaytoday, you'll be free.
I used to be cracking up.
I was like yo, this is really alot of shit, bro.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
Why not hunt a hustler?
All that.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
Man them days was the days, but Jones, they met each
other that day.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
See on some headshot shit, bro.
That's what I'm trying to tellyou Like you feel me?

Speaker 2 (16:46):
People don't know that.
Everybody think that theywalked in there knowing each
other.
They met each other that day.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
I ain't going to hold you.
That just made me moreimpressed with young Chris
Because he was holding niggasdown Like he knew they shit
forever.
Bro, you would have thoughtthey just came from rehearsing
this shit.
Like yo.
I'm going to say these joystonight.
Rob Markman, right, right,right, rob Markman, that was
fire, rob Markman.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
And I was getting to.

Speaker 4 (17:08):
now I'm getting to the big star era, rob Markman
Right, rob Markman when they onthe road and they going state to
state cooking.
You know what I'm saying.
I know if you was in it at that, had was trying to get in it.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
See them days I was trying to like.
I always been a song nigga Likefor some reason, I don't know,
because early on I was trying tofollow what Big was doing.
I'm trying to make records,Right.
So when the DVD shit started Ihad to like convert it into just
being like a 32 with justnothing but bars and animation.
So by the time I got on to whatthey was doing, it was like all

(17:48):
right, I got it now.
You see what I'm saying.
It was other little pockets inthem, raps that they didn't know
how to do.
Bro, the Big Dog Yard is abunch of raps.
That's not one rap.
I sat and wrote.
That's six or seven differentraps that I can only remember
the pieces Smoke.
That shit.
I didn't know, that's just mynatural go had.

(18:11):
It was four to six more bars.
When had cut me off, I justwent into another rap.
I ain't know, I just was doingit.
I didn't even know Bob likedthat shit.
I'm like man.
Another DVD I rapped for him.
They can't go put it out.
Bob said yo, you got to comeback, you got to do that joint
again.
I'm like well, he like thisshit fucked up.
But my whole block love thatshit.
That's why everybody out thereis saying it with me.

(18:33):
The first time I did it it wastoo dark, you can't see me.
I'm like Bob.
I don't know that rap.
He I'm like.
I don't he like come to my crib.
He had me listening sitting inhis crib just listening to it.
I went outside, everybody wasrapping.
I'm nervous.
I'm like man, this shit ain'the talking about?
I know what this is.
Niggas be.
I do the rap and while I'mdoing it I'm like, bro, they

(18:57):
saying this shit, it was over.
That changed my whole life.
I became a rapper, like, oh,I'm a rapper now, this shit
gotta make sense.
It gotta make sense.
Now I was working.
I had a job.
Then I went to work.
That shit was like yo ain't youthe boy with the DVD.
Yo listen, supervisor lady, Iain't doing that outside work,

(19:18):
no more, put me in the backsomewhere.
She like alright, alright, shetook two days.
It ain't happening fast enough.
I'm out of here.
What, listen?
I felt like what's her name?
Look, here go this vest.
Here go your ID.
I'll be back Thursday for mycheck.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
I'm out and my $75 on Friday.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
She like you, serious , I'm out.
You cooking me why I'm talkingto an old head walk up woman
with his boost mobile.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
He got ring ring ring on his boost mobile.
He's like I got to get money onthis.
This is my get money phone,young buck.
I said you see what I'm sayingand left Mm.

Speaker 4 (19:53):
Mm Been a rapper.
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Bro, you know how legendary that freestyle became.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
Bro, you know what I just realized?
And Van put me on.
I'm the only one on the wholeHeadshot One that only got one
rap Meek on there five, sixtimes.
Had on there a bunch of times.
Everybody's on there a bunch oftimes.
I got one rap on there One.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
That's how you know.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
After that I charged everybody Once that joint went
off, bro, it was chargeeverybody.
Yo, I need you on the DVD.
I need a check this shit gonnasell.
I'm on it, I need a check.
I was getting them, Bro.
We was really getting paid todo colleges for DVD versus bro,

(20:35):
they was paying us.
No, we not spending.
We was going college tours forDVD versus by the time we
started getting records.
We was getting shit somewhereelse I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
For DVD versions so look at that time right.
Of course you know, we young,we living in it, we not fully
understanding what it is.
But when you get a glimpse ofwhat you're doing and what it
really is, like did you like?
Did that make you like you like?

(21:06):
All right, let me create a tape, let me do a full tape.
Like, what was the processbeyond behind you?
All right, let me step offthese dvds and do a full tape.
Your own point, my boy um megetting a deal yeah

Speaker 4 (21:22):
what it wasn't before .
That Fuck.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
Everybody was rapping , bro.
We all was rapping and going tothe studio that's part of being
a rapper.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
That's why I love you though.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Bro, meet, got a deal .
Read on fucking on demand withtoast to this.
Aw man, aw man, I got it.
We got everybody turning it up.
That's when I got low.
All right, let me go figurethis shit out.
And I was just figuring it out,finding little studios, taking
my little bread going, and thenit's like what's that?

(21:52):
Like 09, reek, when we juststarted figuring that shit out
together, like 08?
Reek, pull up on me, like whatyou I'm with Mook Mook, like bro
, you doing all this shit byyourself.
Dolo, he like man, get in, bro.
We're going to go see Reek.
Pull up on Reek.
Reek, like what you doing.
I'm like this is what I'm doing.
This is the music he like whenyou going to the studio.

(22:13):
He like all right, come to thestudio, he hear it.
He say no a little push.
You been rocking.
That's all I ever had.
Just me and him.
It'd be me and him.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
But it's crazy because, like all right the shit
I've done.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
Yeah, like the shit I've done without the shit they
have is different.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
It's crazy, yeah, but I was all right.
But thinking back then, likeyou put the tape together,
release it's fire.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Snapping and it's been receptive well in the city.
It was well receptive Because Ilike to say that, because
sometimes it don't, you knowwhat I mean.

Speaker 4 (22:57):
Your first tape might not catch.
Sometimes it don't Might needto do like 10 of them.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Then another thing around the time I dropped my
first tape had dissing me, soit's so much motivation on my
tip Me got a deal.
My dog dissing me, the otherdog's dissing me.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
How that made you feel when he dissed you.
That's what I'm like.
How did you stop making me feel?
That's what made me feel likealright.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
I gotta go now.
My plan before was I could putthis bitch in neutral.
My man, go get us there andthen I figure it out.
Right, you feel me?
So once that shit happened itwas like, ah, fuck it, I gotta
figure it out for myself youthink he had this dude under a
pair of pressure of, like thatcamera always being in his face.

Speaker 4 (23:42):
He probably was in the art and music type time no
hold on.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
I think, it was just a moment that they was in.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
How about this, though?
Remember, when you first cameout, you was D Jones, had hype
man, and now, when you'reperfecting your craft and as
you're getting better, you'rebeing receptive, different in
the streets.
Now it's like all right, jones,stepping out of being my hype
man and actually being Jones DJ.
You don't think it was that?

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Rob Markman.
No, I don't think it was thattype of malice Not towards me
Rob Markman, you got too muchheadset, bro Rob Markman.
And I'ma tell you why I don'tthink that Because we always did
our own thing.
We wasn't sitting up under eachother all day.
He would call me like yo pull up.
I got XYZ going on.
Yo, pull up, I'm over here.
That's how we met Oskino.
He was at a Dice game.

(24:27):
He's like yo pull up to thisDice game.
Come clean this game up.
I pull up to the game.
It's O and all the big timedrug dealers.
I get on.
I hit 4-4 up and the heat ofthe game.
I catch four fours.
I hit them and leave.

(24:48):
Me and Obe been cool since then.
Old Ayo, you be with my littlecousins.
Yeah, I'm going to catch yourlittle ass.
All right, man, that's fire.
So that'd be the shit.
So when that shit happened, wewould talk, and then it'd be
like I'd be like man, that'ssome rap shit.
I get dissed all the time.
Everybody diss me.

(25:09):
It's the easy shot.
I used to let it bother me.
Then it realized, like no, theydissing me because I'm the
target.
This is what they want to do.
So, once I took that power itwas like what you gonna do.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
Yeah, so around this time, this is 08, 09 and, uh,
you know, dalhan dolphin, youknow you you get to be, you get
to, uh, you get to meet andbuild your relationship with
east and um, and he's comingdown to north philly and you
know, be with y'all, chill withy'all.
And this is even before theworld, even though east yeah, he

(25:44):
playing ball then.
Talk about that, talk aboutwhat happened.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
He's playing ball around that time he coming down
with Freaky on the summers.
He on the ball team, right Likehe outside, but he cool Like
you know what I'm saying.
All right East.
Well, he just daved in.
D-boy.
At that time, this freaky manD-Boy that comes over.
So it's like what's up D.
And then it's like no, he niceand ball he, tough he down in

(26:09):
Virginia on all this shit.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
Yeah, league, tough he's tough he on the same teams.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
He's that tough.
And then he just was like yo, Irap, I'm like what I ain't
fucking ball, I rap, I'm likewhat.
Like I ain't fucking ball, Irap Like you.
Serious, nigga you in school,nigga you.
He's like I rap, bro, freakylike yo, you got hair Freaky,
send me, play me something.
Like tell him to send mesomething.
He sent me a song called Polito.

(26:36):
We do that.
You come to the city, we lockin down, jazz you up shit.
Just before.
I don't know if it was Teefee'sthen, but Rob Markman took him
to 16th.

Speaker 4 (26:44):
Fantastic, yeah, that's where.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
I was recording at with my homie Wally.
We was recording there.
I can tell you, we go downthere, we lock in, we grab two
Rob.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
Markman Wally.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
Wally.
All bangers yeah, all bangbeats.
Off a bunch of his fuckingbeats we record all weekend down
there After that it was just upit started happening fast.
It seemed like it was happeningfast for him.

Speaker 4 (27:15):
Yeah, it was tough.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
Rob Markman.
3 years after Massive Bill comealong, I could see you saying
that, because he really juststepped out rapping yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
But look, he was working.
Yeah, that was the thing we wein Philly.
We just we don't got no labelsand we ain't had no artists.
We ain't had no resources hereto know how to move first of all

(27:49):
.
So we coming off DVD shit, wejust figuring this shit out, we
just really copying what we seethe next nigga doing.
So that's why when you see,like bro, it was a period when
Meek got on, that's when youwere hearing it, you got Meek
Mill's beat.
That's where the tight beatscome from.
If you ask me Niggas lookingfor that, Like trying to find
the bounce.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
What was the sign?
Y'all at that time, like 51?
Bro all the labels was here,bro, uh-huh.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
It was just niggas ain't know what to do with it.
Niggas was getting calls theyain't even believe.
Niggas was getting calls theyain't believe about.
Bro.
Niggas was like motherfuckerswas calling Bob's phone.
He thought niggas was playingon his phone.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
Bro, we ain't know this shit was happening, bro,
shit crazy.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
We was in it.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
We was kids in it.
The oldest one of us was 24 atthe time.
We was just doing that shit.
By the time we figured out howto do the structure, it was over
.
Yeah niggas got kids Niggasstart.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Getting kids Niggas start getting cases.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
Niggas start getting deals.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
Just coming home.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
It's over what we doing.
Shit Philly crazy.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
It was nutty Ph.
But wow, philly is wow.
But look, that's, that's crazy.
And the special thing about youis right, you've been able to
be jonesy through everything.
That's why I'm like this boy isjust he, he, resistant.
Now I mean he is like you,figure out dope ways to reinvent
yourself and come out now.

(29:27):
I mean because, all right, you,me and east man, we, in a time
of y'all was, y'all was youtube,darlings, y'all was the first
people actually watching onyoutube.
After After that, now we havethe, the more structured putting

(29:48):
out tapes beats just not doingit.
Yeah, just not putting outanything, because now I'm more
focused on my brand and actuallywhat's going on with the
structure and how I got thingsso, like you've been able to,
like, travel your way and try,like to go through all of it,

(30:08):
learn your journey.
It still rap at a high level.
Got to commend you in that, youknow.
I mean you know, you goingthrough your journey.
Just just talk about, like, howhard it is to stay ambitious
and motivated in this game,especially coming from where we
coming from.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
That should have break you.
That should have break youbecause the list of I can do it
like them, don't go so far.
And then the higher it up, thethinner it get.
So you got to think like if youfrom New York, y'all got 10

(30:47):
niggas, that's that nigga, andat one point was him that y'all
can pick from 20.
20.
But you on point, we got five,we got three.
Three, if you don't want tocount the women.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Yeah, we got three and two possibles.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
You feel what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
I'm with you.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
So it's like you got to see it already.
Like yo, bro, this is what wedoing.
However, we got to do it.
I can't do it.
I couldn't rap as good as had.
You feel what I'm saying.
So I had to find what I do.
It don't got to be better thanwhat nobody do.

(31:27):
It just got to be what I do.
I just got to master what I do.
You feel what I'm saying?
Being around East I don't havethe other resources or I'm not
East, east, walk in 6'4" lightskin.
He's still in already.
You feel what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
He's still in already .

Speaker 2 (31:48):
He's still in already To the maximum capacity.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
And he can rap Light skin niggas.
I don't have that, but what Ido got I maxed Right.
You feel what I'm saying?

Speaker 3 (31:59):
And when I'm around you.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
I don't want nothing from you but to win, that's fire
.
That's why he, my man, becauseI don't ask him for nothing, but
yo, I'm coming on this tour, yoI need this verse, and that's
why you able to play your roleand be where you at.

Speaker 4 (32:13):
Yeah, you feel me.
That's what's up.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
Right.
So it's like I always justfigured that part out.
Like everything else you try todo is hate for real, for real,
like your man on and you tryingto figure out how to be better
than your man or trying to stepwith him.
Yeah, you hate him, bro.
Let that nigga shine and you goget yours.
It's go, it's go.
Now there's times when myhomies be like yo, that's a
whole topic right there.
There be times when nigg he'slike yo, you too fallbackish.

(32:40):
I ain't saying OD, but go standon the couch where you belong.
Right, I be smoking in thecorner with these niggas
laughing and joking, Bro.
Why you with us?
We?

Speaker 3 (32:48):
got up there.
Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
All right.

Speaker 4 (32:51):
Like you know what I'm saying, so it be like Down
to earth, chill fallback, coolkind of collective dude, but I
know who I am?

Speaker 1 (32:59):
Yeah, I'm cool with that, Right.
When it's my night I'm up there.
It's not my night, Right?

Speaker 4 (33:05):
I mean I could go out there and get a little light,
but it ain't my night.
I think you got to be in thisshit that.
No, like certain people, don'tthey not in it so they don't
know how to move right with thisshit.
Like certain things you don'tdo you know what I'm saying.
Like you got gotta let your manshine if if that's his.
You know what I'm saying thisis night every dog got their day

(33:27):
right.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
So so with with what you having like um, you know
you're saying he's come, hesigned his deal.
Mads, appeal, right, I'm gonnakeep it real.
He's one, he's different.
I respect eason and shout outto east because he came in he
came in on some different shit.
He got signed by Massapelle andDove Jam in the same year.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
That was hard he a ill nigga that was hard.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
How you do that.
How you do that.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
My dog came in different bro.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
Nah, I ain't gonna be cosigning niggas, my dog came
in and he's still stepping bro.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
So you being a witness to that and you
understanding what that is andyou know, like you coming along
and re-insurges of Jonesy andthe lifers Talk about how that
came about, you know, I mean,like you turning it over and
making it that.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
That's crazy, because I didn't even know I was doing
that shit until it was happening.
All I knew, all I knew was allright, I rap, you need something
else with rap.
So I'm starting my merch.
So I went and got some shirtsdone, just some shit.
I said this shit in a rap.
I live a lot of life.

(34:38):
I just put it on a shirt, thenniggas just start buying them A
lot.
And Then niggas just startbuying them A lot and then
niggas just start saying oh,look at the life of niggas.
There's a lot of us and it'slike, oh, oh, that's who it is.
Yeah, oh, I bet.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
I'm running with it.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
Yeah.
Then I looked up andmotherfuckers would think I
would stop rapping.
No, I just ain't have time, bro.
That shit was dumping I'mtalking about.
I'm dumping these shirts.
I'm going this one bo dick androbes.
Pause the up the boulevard.
They got the shirts.
I'm up there four times a weekright there like big box cut the

(35:15):
light off I'm up there fourtimes a week getting the big
boxes like and these is flying,so it is flying.
So it was like all right, I wasmaking the money.
I'm like, oh, all right.
Then, once I got back in therap, it was like all right, I
know who my fans is.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
And it's crazy because now you Voltron'd it.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
Right.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
You Voltron'd it Right, you know what I mean, and
it's like you branded it andnow you got your core following
and think about it like styles.
This is the same as Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
Yeah, I mean with the Mm hmm, Come on skate.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
Mm, hmm, mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
I mean.
So it's like OK, jonesy Mm hmm,yeah.
I like that, then, then, letalone.
All right, you do, you got that.
You got that, bro.
You got that.
Come along now Kiss, come along, come on Talk to me about that
man?
How?
How do the lifers and and dblock and a lot.
How do that?
How did that come along, man,so raspy and all that?

Speaker 1 (36:09):
so I was um, oh, I just came off tour.
I went on tour with east, justcame back off tour, I think I
was just outside.
He would pull up to the block.
Uh, he pulled up to the blockto kick it with O'Hare Yacht.
That's his man.
That's how I meet him throughYacht.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
Okay, Shaw, Yacht yeah that's my OJ.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
He'd have him come down.
He's got like a show.
I think Pottstown, I thinkthat's where it's at.
So I pull up and we justchopping on the block.
He knew of me and that kind oflike he was like no bro, we used
to watch y'all niggas and youknow, I had a hat up there, so I
know who you is.
Rob Markman yeah, made it alittle easy to break the ice.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
Yeah, I'm like all right, so we chopping.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Then he like yo come to the show.
Rob Markman, right, I'm likeall right, I'll pull right up,
go to the show with Louie.
After the show we chopping it,we go to the wheel to play music
, me and Lil V playing somemusic free.
Lil V, I plug in, I play liketwo, three joints.

(37:13):
He like hold up.
He called Kate, I think it was.
Who was it?
No, I'm sorry, it was C's andBig.
Son.
He was with C's and Big Sonthat's who he was ruling with
that night.
He called them down.
It was in a hotel.
He came out.
He's like yo, play them Jones,again, play the same Jones and
then keep going.
I play the same Jones.

(37:37):
C's looking at him like yo bro,sound like bro, and right then.
And there I'm like yo, bro,sound like bro, and right then.
And there I'm like I don't givea fuck.
What else happened tonight?

Speaker 2 (37:46):
See I said this shit's over.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
We can wrap this night up.

Speaker 4 (37:50):
I'm ready to go home.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
He's like yo what you doing, I'm like, I'm just doing
it.
He's like you ain't.
I'm like no, he's like yo takemy number, Give me the number,
never call.
I ain't called Kiss for likemonths.
I ain't want to call and it bethe rapper, hollywood rapper.
Shit, funny number, don'tanswer, spin me.

(38:15):
So I just was like I'll runinto him again.
Torn with these, torn withthese.
We wound up going across seas,tore across seas, for a couple
months.
Came back, had a show in NewYork and the locks was on it
with him.
As I came off stage, kidspulled me to the side Yo, what's
up?
I'm like oh, this is serious.

Speaker 4 (38:38):
I'm like yo I called you.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
You're like man, what's the number?
And then he called me.
He's like yeah, now I mighthave missed it.
I'm like all right, all right.
And it was up from there.
He called East, like yo, what'sup, you're Jonesy, your artist.
He's like oh, that's my friend.
He's like what Like who?
He signs, he's like by.

(39:04):
And then he called like yo,what's up, pull up.
I pulled up and just startedfiguring that out.
Like the first that happened incovid, though, so it kind of
cooked us like we had to.
Like that's when the worlddropped and covid happened.
So it was like you still gotthe.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Uh, I got the video.
You still got the video off inthe hood, bro.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
I ain't calling nobody but this nigga bro.
I ain't post that shit.
I don't know where the fuck allthe people came from that shit
was rolling.
I didn't know.
Look, I talked to Kiss thatmorning.
He like you know, I'm about tocome up there.
I'm like all right.
He like yeah, no, I'm about tocome up there.
I'm like all right.
He's like well, we'll beshooting.
And I'm like I thought I wasgoing to come up there.

(39:48):
It says both of y'all in NewYork.
I'm trying to make this shit aseasy as possible, yeah to go
through.
Yeah.
He's like, no, I'm coming down.
I'm like, well, this shit forreal.
So that whole day I'm justbitching for real because I'm
like there's a lot about to begoing on.

(40:09):
Yeah, call the videographer,niggas.
They like, yeah, we on our way.
I'm like, all right, that'sstraight, that's cool.
The artist coming, the?
I can't find him though.
I don't know where.
Reek at, I don't got it.
Mind you, this is my barber too.
He rallying the troops, hegoing to do everything In his

(40:29):
mind.
As long as I get there, he'sstraight In my mind.
Nigga, let's get this shit outthe way.
I can't find this, nigga.
I called him about a thousandtimes.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
He answered the phone .
When he did, he said he'ssweating like a motherfucker.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
When he did he said where you at man.
I'm like, bro.
I'm on Darwin Street.
Come on, bro, we about to shootthe video tonight.
Bro, is everybody there?
I'm like everybody here.

Speaker 4 (40:49):
He calmed up he calmed up.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
I'm as a motherfucker bro, I'm tweaking out bro.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
Bike.
I'm out to shoot the video.
I'm going to go get my bike.
Homies.
I'm like all right, yeah, thisshit was turning all the way up.
Damn bro, it was just like first.
It was just drug dealers, bro,like drug dealers that don't
even be outside.
When I start seeing that likerandom little, like I'm like, oh
bro, them niggas don't even beoutside, like this shit lit
don't even be outside.
Like this, you let me put theG's out, it was on.

(41:26):
Then the girls start pulling up.
It was so mean.
Yeah, he's out there, rose.
Like yeah, I came here, bro,it's about 100 people outside
Video star.
you know you in it.
And then it's a part we likestand on the step.
That's when I seen him like ohknow you in it.
And then it's the part where welike stand on the step.
That's when I seen it.

Speaker 4 (41:44):
I'm like, oh, we got it rolling off, this
motherfucker.
You couldn't see no street,it's just people.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
Shut your hood down.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
Yeah, bro, then they like yo, we going to the gas
station to shoot.
Part two, the second scene,that's when I, you couldn't tell
me nothing in the hood.
After that you couldn't tell menothing in the hood after that.
I got free weed for about sixmonths.
From there, everybody yeaheverybody walking, bro.
See, I'm one of them.
Still, bro, who you is in yourhood, like I love that?

Speaker 4 (42:14):
what's your hand like in your?

Speaker 1 (42:16):
hood bro, I don't give a about the net, we can
fake it on the neck, you turnyour head up.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
We can fake it on the net.
Like that.
We can get on the net and I canact like.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
I'm something that I'm completely not and I don't
never got to see y'all.
I can go to work and just fakeit on the net, but I'm outside.
And when you outside, you gotto find out like, what your hand
is.
Can I be with you in your hood?
No question, we have nosecurity.
It wasn't I'm talking about.
It was niggas with war outthere.
The nigga pulled up on me, saidyo, bro, that shit is off

(42:45):
tonight.
I'm like what?
Like it's off tonight.
This is your hood Jones, it'soff.
I'm like oh, this shitdifferent, oh this shit
different.
Now, they couldn't tell me.
They couldn't tell me, Bro,they couldn't tell me nothing,
bro, Like what you going to tellme.
bro.
I just walked 400 people pastmy grandma, my grandmama and

(43:06):
grandmama in the door like whatthe hell going on?
It's my video pops.
She like oh, I'm like, lookthere go Jada Jada room walking.
We walking, it's kind of darkaround there until you get to
the gas station, kind of Cool.
Yeah, niggas up there at thegas station having a ball, Every
old hand that yo, jonathan,come here, yo kiss, it's my old

(43:28):
hands, man, they just want tomeet you.
Man, they been listening to yousince 9-5 or some shit.

Speaker 4 (43:32):
That felt good, felt good.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
Them the stripes that feel good.
Yeah, yeah.
Shorty, around my way, pressedme every day about East.
Come here.
He right here Now.
Tell him Walk off.
I'm smiling like yeah, it's avideo, I got a clip, I'm going
to show you all.
I'm smacked they playing a song.
I'm minding my business.
I'm just dancing my littleheart out in the corner.
But like it felt good, like forthat one night, that moment that

(43:56):
one night everything was goodbecause of me.
Like, bro, it ain't been onenight, yes, it has.
Outside of like when my blockdo Freaky Day and when I have my
life for cookouts, bro,everything else around there,
that shit be in the short, thatshit get cut short.
So it feel good.
Like damn bro.
I hold that much respect.
I'm cool with that.
I don't give a fuck if it'shate or love.

(44:16):
You respect me enough thatnight to like and that shit
count.
You earned that.
You put the work in for thatthat shit count.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
And that was some legendary day.
Boy E's boy Kiss to the Hood.
Chris popped out for him.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
Yeah, chris popped out for him.
My man, gunna, popped out.
That was the cool part, thatwas fire.
Gunna stayed all night.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
So like now now.
Now, now you like all right?
big dog fucking man at a highlevel man, that's my man, that's
gonna play me man, I can't waittill he come sit down.
That's my man for real, gonna,gonna.
So he, that boy man, he'sspecial.
So it's like you even likebeing around like a gun all the

(44:54):
time now and like you havingthem, you know, having your pen
up there, like was that?
Like was that like a thoughtprocess thing, like no, I really
got to get my pen on that level, like I'm from where.
It's like you know what I'msaying and we just at that time
talked to me, did you not?
hear what I said earlier.
Yeah, I want to hear it.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
Jay-Z said that he was only 16, bro, when we was
like 16,.
I'm looking at this, bro.
I'm always going to be a fan.
I'm going a fan as much asGunna is my friend this is my
friend.
We call and joke and this is myfriend, I'm also a fan.
Like when Gunna drop, I want totap in, I'm going to listen,
I'm going to call Yo you coming.

(45:31):
Same thing with East.
If you hot, I'm a fan.
I don't give a fuck how much ofa you're, I'm your friend, but
you also hot, bro, that girlrecord that they got on.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
They new shit, whoa.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
I'm going to give you your flowers even more because
you my friend, but like I don'tknow, I respect it.
Them niggas be talented man andI appreciate it.
It's hard to listen to like youever had a friend that wasn't a
good rapper.
Yeah, it kind of fucked yourfriendship up, bro, if you think
about it.
Bro, at some point you're likeI ain't going to keep mine bro,

(46:07):
yeah.
And then when you do tell him,it's like appreciate you.
It's like man, is you tellingme this?
Why?
You?
He could take that two waysLike bro, why didn't you tell me
I was corny?
You let me waste all this timeand money.
Or you can take it as like, yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
I needed that.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
Or you can take it all like all right, good looking
bro.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
Let me step my shit up.
You know what I'm saying, Right?

Speaker 1 (46:28):
All right, so I'm that.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
You even doing that.
Then you just did thislegendary move with you Kiss Mac
, the first AI verse from Macand K Gibbs on the ad-libs and
hook, like how that?
Like, come on man.
Like you doing the come on man.
Like, come on, talk to me aboutthese plays that you like.

(46:50):
You vision these joints or like.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
Yeah, bro, I lie to you, not, bro.
In my mind, this is the type ofshit I say All right, big guy,
I'm never going to get a versefrom big.
I the type of shit I say, allright, big guy, I'm never going
to get a verse from Big.
I could get a Kidz verse oneday if I work hard enough.
I could get a Ho verse one day.
If I work hard enough.
I can get a Beans verse one dayif I work hard enough.
These is niggas that I aim todo music with.

(47:14):
It's like all right, ho retired, I might not ever get that Ho
verse.
Damn, but if I might still getthese two.
Then I got the kids verse.
I'm signing the kids.
It's like, oh bro, so I couldget this Mack verse.
Then it's like Mack mightretire.
It's like I'll never go get it.
Then he pulled up on me one day.

(47:34):
We had a show.
I'm at their show.
I just pull up on my regularkids, say he got a show, I'm
coming.
This shit in VA, Hit my man.
Yo, come on, Take a ride to VA,we out, I do that.
I do shit like that Shit.
I made some bread.
You out, we out, Sure VA.
You never know what's going tohappen when I walk through this
door.
I don't know the play that'sgoing.

(48:00):
I'm going to walk through thisdoor.
I walk through the door, I runinto a Mac Mac.
Yo, bro, let me give you yourflowers real quick.
I understand why I can't signyou bro.
I'm mad that I wasn't hipsooner.
Now Gunna and they telling melike and I'm tuning in.
It's like I'm like damn, youhear it.
And it's like, damn, that'sgreat.
Then I drop a tape not too longafter that and Mack walk in and

(48:23):
stay.
I'm talking about my listeningparty.
Three, four hours.
I'm going to play my whole tapetwice.
I'm going to play someexclusive shit.
I'm going to pass the arcs.
Mack stayed for all that.
Bro, niggas, don't be doing shitlike that, bro.
Bro, I threw a fucking concertat 923 because I used to party
there.
I'm like it's lit if I canthrow a show there.
I brought East, I brought Kiss,I put the TV, I put Magic in

(48:48):
them on the show, I put Ness onthe show.
This is what I do.
This is just who I am.
I sold out 923.
To me that's a trophy.
You know how much money I spentin that club, how many weekends
I spent in that club.
I went back and sold it out.
That's fire to me.
I had Kiss in 9-2-3.
That is fire to me, bro.
Yeah, that is fire.
You feel what I'm saying.

(49:09):
That's the shit to me.
Them trophies, them thetrophies I got.
I might not get a Grammy notime soon, but I did that.
That's live to me.
Yeah, that's fire.
You feel what I'm saying?
My passport got multiple stampsjust for rap.
That's fire to me.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
Yeah, bro, you know where these niggas had me at on
the list.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
Uh-huh, if we go back 10 years from today and they
say, philly, all of them, I'mgoing to be so low on the list.
Not even because they justdon't think I'm talented.
They list not even because theyjust don't think I'm talented,
they didn't care.
You know what I'm saying?
I wasn't in the circles to care.
When I was in the circles tocare, I was up there.
You know why, though?

Speaker 4 (49:50):
Yeah, because I wasn't in the circle to care why
they can add that one verse.
Yeah, you feel what I'm saying,but you've been putting that
work in man.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
That's why we got you up here to give you these
flowers, man.
I appreciate y'all, man, butlook before you go.

Speaker 4 (50:05):
We definitely got like two games to play real
quick.
Break down the games, white boy.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
All right.
So the first game is Fast Track.
It's where I name two thingsand you just pick one or the
other.
Nothing too crazy, we fromPhilly, so I always got to start
with this one.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
State property of major figures.
I got to say state property,okay.
Okay.
I got to say the property, ahshit.

Speaker 4 (50:36):
Shit.
You just said one Before 01, itwas the major figures.
But look, this is what I'msaying.
This is what.
But look, this is what I'msaying.
This is what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
This is what I'm saying.
Hear me out, hear me out.
And my man Jeff, say this allthe time I heard majority.
If you a Philly nigga, youheard majority of these niggas
on figure tapes first.

Speaker 4 (50:56):
Yeah, every single one of them.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
I heard Chris on the figures tape first.

Speaker 4 (51:00):
Yeah, or the figures probably gave them a feature,
some shit like that.

Speaker 3 (51:04):
Like only ones.
I don't think.
I is like maybe Owen.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
Sparks yeah, but like you know what I'm saying.
So it's like you can't, likeyou can't not, but the prop.
What the prop did took the cityfurther.
You know what I'm saying.
It was at a moment where weneeded the prop.
That's all we had.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
And they held it.
You know what I'm saying.
Okay, that's cool, all right,lil Baby, lil Dirt.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
Lil Dirt.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
Skrilla, OT7, Kwani.
I knew you was about to saythat.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
I personally like Kwadi.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
But I like Skrilla.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
I'm going to go Skrilla, okay Kor or Tor Kor
Enes or Kree Forge.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
And what are we asking about them?

Speaker 2 (52:03):
ENS or preform.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
Sure, I got it.
I think that might be thehardest.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
Enos Creep, for I'm a go that one before that was a
good.

Speaker 4 (52:20):
You ain't never say that.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
Oh, I'm gonna take my shit, you ain't never say that.

Speaker 4 (52:23):
I said that I'm taking my shit, man.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
Damn bitch.
I'm glad this on camera.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
You can steal it man E-Ness of Cree Forge is real.
I'm going to go Ness, I'm goingto go Ness, I'm going to go
Ness why.
I just did a record with Ness.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
A banger, A banger Shout out to Forge man Stay put.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
Bro me and Forge got a banger Bro.
That was rough.
My answer was only based offwho I did the latest record with
, because I was stuck.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
That was harder than any other.
How about this one?
Nh or Vodka, nh or Vaca NH.
Rob Markman, bill Collector, orT-Rock T Bill Collector.

Speaker 3 (53:07):
Rob Markman, bill Collector T-.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (53:11):
Rob.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
Markman.
I like Bill over everybody,just about T Bill, that nigga
Rob Markman.
Only time I ever went againstBill is when he battled Still on
the come home draw and itwasn't even like a go against
him, I was just rooting forStill.
So much that's my guy and hehad just won.
But I like Bill over everybody.

Speaker 4 (53:30):
He don't do no wrong in my eyes, you can't go against
Bill man.
You can't, you can't, keisha.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
Cole.
You're another ass nigga KeishaCole or.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
Monica, keisha Cole or Monica.
Yeah, I'm going, keisha Cole,she outside.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
Tyrese or Tank.

Speaker 4 (53:49):
Damn Reed.
That was a good one.
He calling for help, he callingfor help.
He, like you, know all the R&Bsongs, yeah don't call me, not
them, tank, tank, tank Wait.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
Tank.
What we basing this on?
Don't Tank sing better thanTyrese?
Tank, tank, tank, wait, tank.
What are we basing this on?
Don't Tank sing better thanTyrese?
He don't Fast and the FuriousTyrese.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
All right this is the second game.
One more, all right, no, acouple more.

Speaker 4 (54:19):
Do a couple more.
I'm going to do like three.
I said Tyrese or tank, go ahead, cam or Jim, cam or Jim yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
All right, he burns me out.
Man man, dipset or G-Unit.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
Ooh Can I answer the Cam or G-Unit?

Speaker 4 (54:40):
No.
Dipset, I tried to do you alittle.
You could have easily did thatone.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
I know more Dipset music than I know G-Unit music.
Yeah, I do.
I know way more Dipset musicthan I know G-Unit music.
Yeah, I'm going to go.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
Dipset Dave East or Joey Jack.

Speaker 4 (55:04):
You ain't seen no down south people or nothing.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
East ahead and what I said?

Speaker 4 (55:08):
a little baby Damn.
Oh yeah, you did.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
That's a dumbass question.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
Dave East or Joey Jag , that was just fun, that was
funny.

Speaker 4 (55:20):
That was good, that was good.
No, you can't Come on, manHattie dissed you bro.
Davies ain't never dissed youbro.
He ain't never dissed you bro.
Like no Hattie.

Speaker 3 (55:38):
The real of the most podcast man.

Speaker 4 (55:41):
If you don't care like, subscribe comment If you
don't care, you're amotherfucking hater.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
Why?
Because it's free.
Y'all already know you didn'tplay the last game.
All right, this is the lastgame right here.
This is called One Gotta Go.
I'm going to name four artists,or whatever they may be, and
you pick one to go.
When they go.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
They hold everything, they just go.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
Anybody that fall under them, go they just go.
Rob.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
Markman, it never happened.
Rob Markman All right, let mejust do like a, so say if you
like the Magixx or the Bulls andI'm like the Bulls got to go,
rob Markman, everything done,rob Markman.
So that means save you like themagics or the.

Speaker 4 (56:23):
Bulls and I'm like the Bulls gotta go.
Everything done, I mean Georgeor he never wins everything.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
All right, let's go this one right here.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
Y'all got bad people in this, so it make it easier,
like we got school.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
Yo Gotti Lil Wayne.
Yo Gotti Lil Wayne.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
Gucci man Lil Wayne.
Yo Gotti Lil Wayne Gucci Mane.
Jeezy one gotta go.
Lil Gotti Lil Wayne Gucci Mane.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
Jeezy Alright alright .

Speaker 1 (56:55):
Alright, it's harder to, it's more difficult to start
with them.
So alright, ah, shit, I needJee.
Oh shit, I need GZ.
I need that shit.
And Wayne Wayne's alwaysdrizzly and Nicky, I don't know
if I need that tiger shit, but Ineed a little I might go

(57:20):
without, not not in the distance.
I got to try this, not not inthe distance.

Speaker 3 (57:22):
You got to join us, guys, a bit your God.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
He got Gloria.
I can't go without Gloria.
That's my home.
Do all that shit count?
Gucci, be fucking with thebigos, and all that too.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
Yeah, I mean, I would count that all he had the story
I used to go to for all yeah, Iain't.
I would count that he had thestudio they all used to go to
first.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
Oh, yeah, I ain't gonna hold you, bro.
It might be Jeezy, because Idon't need none of them pull-ups
and all though Jeezy might.
I might go without Jeezy,though, because my president is
black, bro.
Look how much other shit I cankeep.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
I know right.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
He don't come with, he don't got no extras If I pick
Wayne I lose Some people belike.

Speaker 4 (58:05):
all I need is Jeezy.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
See, look, I'm not picking Gucci over Jeezy, but
I'm picking the shit that comeswith Gucci over.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
Jeezy.

Speaker 4 (58:16):
Like who.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
Thug Migos, all that shit.
Nicki Minaj, All that shit comefrom his umbrella.
So it's like, ah, what you gotfor me.
Right, and there's a couple101s and all those.
That's good, but I could getsome trap from Gotti.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
You feel me, I can get the trap from Gotti.

Speaker 4 (58:43):
All feel me I can get the trap from Gotti All day
long and he got Glorilla andGotti got.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
Glorilla too, so it makes it work who you go with.
So I'm a, I'm a huh who, you gowith.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
One gotta go.
Jeez, you gotta go.
All right, all right, all right, let's do this one.
All right, all right, all right, let's do this one, let's go.
Lil Baby, lil, durk, slom andPluto, One got to go.

Speaker 4 (59:07):
Yeah, Lil Baby Durk Slom Pluto Free, Bang Gang Free,
the Bang Damn.

Speaker 1 (59:21):
That's crazy.
All right Future.
Don't go, damn that's crazy.
All right Future.
Don't go, damn Dirk, don't go,damn that's the king of drip bro
.

Speaker 4 (59:33):
You going?

Speaker 1 (59:33):
to get rid of Lil Baby.
Yeah, lil Baby can go, damn.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
All right, how about this?

Speaker 1 (59:39):
And that ain't in the disrespectful Hold on, hold on,
hold on.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
How about this?

Speaker 1 (59:42):
I like ain't in a disrespectful way, Hold on hold
on, hold on hold on.
How about this?
I like everybody, I like Drew.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
Hill All right One twelve Jagged edge Joe to see
one got to go.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
You said, drew him.
Jagged edge, joe, to see onetwelve One got to go Drew Hill,
jodeci 112.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
One gotta go Drew Hill.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
And Jodeci Cannot go.
Jodeci is my whole Young boyComing up, you hearing those
records and KC and JoJo.
It's just too much If they gooff the list.
Martin can't do that episodeand that's one of my favorite
Martin episodes, so they can'tgo nowhere.

(01:00:29):
If I take Drew Hill off, thatmeans the thong song didn't come
out.
Drew Hill can't go nowhere, sonow we just down to Peaches and
Cream and Jagged Edge.
Ah yeah, by one 12.

(01:00:49):
Jagged Edge got more, got more.
They got promise.
Yeah, cupid, though, just as hewhite boy, you Shit Is.
See, white boy, you ain't DamnShit, damn, that's it, that's it
.
Yeah, they Peaches and Cream,and Cuba is where the bucks kind
of start slowing up.

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
Anywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
See it starts slowing up Anywhere, and then it's like
Only you.

Speaker 4 (01:01:13):
See, see, I got one for you too after this.
This is a good one.
Damn, this is going to be acooker All right, I think he
ain't, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
112?
Jagged Edge no see, it got tobe 112 off that list because
everybody want to get married toa Jagged Edge.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
So it got to be 112.

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
Yeah they got the most.
They got the wedded songs yeah,they do.
I kicked them off my list.
Now nobody getting married.
Everybody getting married tothe funny stuff.
112.

Speaker 4 (01:01:39):
Everybody getting married to the funnies, though,
then 12.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
Then, they get the biggie shit though.

Speaker 4 (01:01:42):
Only you Shoot your shot.
All right, you ready, you goahead this one, you going at the
.
I mean, you're right, beans,jadakiss, dave East, young,
chris, one guy to go.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
Damn.

Speaker 4 (01:02:01):
Damn that's a cooker.
Damn E's got to go though what.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
I'm sorry E, I can't Look See.
Look See, Hold on.
Let's look at his dynamics andhow he break it down.
If I wipe these off, there gothat funk flex verse that I cook
.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
They go whoa, so E's can't go nowhere for personal
reasons.
Damn Not to mention that's myman.
But verse that I cook, they gowhoa.
So E's can't go nowhere forpersonal reasons, damn, not to
mention, that's my man.
I got some personal things thatI might got to be gonna.

(01:02:31):
Ah, just for personal reasonsonly it could be gonna, because
you still got Matt.
That's what I'm saying.
It might got to be gonna becausehe's still around.
He's just not around Like, ahshit, that's what I'm saying.
It might got to be Gunnabecause he's still around, he's
just not around I cannot look.

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
Look at what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
Look at what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:02:51):
I can't say kiss, you're going to get rid of
Gunna's whole legacy.
Get rid of Gunna.

Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
No, it's not like that.
I can't Look.

Speaker 4 (01:02:58):
We're just going to get rid of everything.
Listen to what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
If I cancel Mack, I cancel all that shit, a lot of
that shit, so I can't cancel.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
Mack, all right, I can't cancel.
Kiss the fuck.
I cancel myself.
I can't cancel East because Icancel myself.

Speaker 4 (01:03:13):
So it's like Gunna gotta go.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
Yeah, damn Gunna, that's cool.
Not like that though no, no, itain't never like that.
I'ma just.
Yeah, he like a heavy spitter.
It ain't never like that, shoutout to Gunna man Hold up All
right this the last one Chill,it's cool.
This the last one Don't evenworry about it.

Speaker 4 (01:03:34):
This the last one.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
Drink your water real Jay-Z Diddy Birdman, Dr Dre,
One gotta go, it's not personalbro, don't think of his court
case Music oh bro.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
All right, I ain't gonna man Fuck that.
All he did was do some wildshit.
I know a bunch of niggas dosome wild shit.

Speaker 4 (01:03:52):
Yo, he does some wild shit, that's all he did.
He just got wild.
We're going to think about hismusic legacy right now.
No, that's all I got.
So one got to go music-wise.
We're going to talk about theirlegacies Jay-Z, dr Dre, diddy
and Birdman.
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
Questions like these, you guys just give me a
personal Uh-huh, Because otherthan that you're going to be
stuck.
So what do?

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
I need.
That's how I carry it.
What I need than that you'regonna be stuck.
So what do I need?
Like that, that's hot, that'sall right.
What I need, what's in my?
What can I go have?
What can I maybe go without?
I don't have.

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
I'm trying to think how many times I jump in the
wheel and go west coast.
Drape influence, not, not not.

Speaker 4 (01:04:35):
Don't think about 56.

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
That's what I'm saying I'm thinking about that'm
thinking about that becauseonce I wipe them, I got to wipe
everything that they sign, soit's like I can't wipe the power
to all that.
I cannot wipe Diddy off ofnothing.
No Diddy, whatever, I'll let itgo if that's what it is.
You can't Bad boy bro.

Speaker 4 (01:04:55):
That's crazy, that's too many people.

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
Bad boy.
If you wipe bad boy off, youdamn near wipe off a bunch of
shit from all them people East.

Speaker 4 (01:05:05):
Coast.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
East Coast.

Speaker 4 (01:05:08):
Except for, maybe, like Mary J Blige, all of them.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
So you can't say nothing to Bad Boy Rockefeller.
I'm from Philly, so we neededRockefeller Facts.
I don't know what I'll tellwhat be without a Rockefeller
Facts?

Speaker 4 (01:05:20):
Or like growing up our childhood.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
I got to drag out a go, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
Dre, we have to go.

Speaker 4 (01:05:28):
And I understand that .

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
Hey, wrap us up.

Speaker 4 (01:05:32):
I understand that before we go, man, let everybody
know how they could get withyou.
If they need a feature, theytry to bring you on a tour.
How can they get with Joe Come?

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
on man.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
I don't know Yo, you can hit Reek Jez Reek on the
ground.
He handled the business shit.
If he taking too long, hit Bam.
Bam handled the other businessBam say no more Damn.

Speaker 4 (01:05:53):
Bam still right up, that's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
Bro, let me tell you, it was at a point where I had
my son.
I was trying to figure thisshit out.
I'm watching niggas go up andit ain't like I'm not.
This is all me personally,nobody acting crazy.
It ain't like a nigga like yo,you on the shelf.
This is just me in my own head,because I'm in the house with a
baby and I'm watching this shitand I'm just calling Reek, yo,

(01:06:17):
reek, outside.
I'm like I'm outside, no youain't bro you outside for two
hours and you go back and outwith the baby and I just called
bam like yo bam, I need to getback outside he was like all
right, you know, I just lostrock jones I come back outside
for anybody, it's gonna be youlook, I'm not gonna lie, all the
independent not all but theones that's working, doing

(01:06:39):
something like, like, reallyworking, I think y'all need to
come together, man, bro, we gota little thing.
We're doing the band camp.

Speaker 4 (01:06:46):
Come on, man, y'all need to stop it Shout out to the
guys Wes.
I love what y'all doing overthere.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
I love what y'all doing over there.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
At the band camp, my love.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
Yeah bro Shout out to Bam man.
Shout out to Bam, that's my guyman.
That guy came back outside forme and we've been working and he
been right there and when Rickain't there, Bam there.
When Bam ain't there, Dre there.
Shout out my dog, Dre, I got alittle team of just independent
workers.
We are a bunch of niggas, that's.
They boss in they own way.
But if I need you to help overhere, you going to help me,

(01:07:19):
right, and they be like yeah, Igot you.
Nah, I be cool with that.
That's the only way I know howto make something work and I
tell everybody look, I'm justthe leader of a bunch of bosses.
I'm not the boss, I'm theleader Because this is my play
and you got a play that's goingto get us some bread.
Then you the leader, but rightnow I off this rap.

(01:07:46):
Shit.
I ain't asking you for paper.
I'ma figure the paper part out.
Only person I'ma call is Reek.
I might call a couple of them.
That's who I really call.
I ain't go front.
I used to be that nigga like.

Speaker 4 (01:07:49):
Shout out to Reek man Hold that shit down, man.

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
I got a couple niggas that hold it down.
Shout out, reek.

Speaker 4 (01:07:54):
Shout out Buzz Shazelle.
Yeah, shout out the guys BusyGoly.

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
Dre Not like a team man.
Shout out to Hitters.

Speaker 4 (01:08:02):
Shout out to Hitters man.
We need a team.

Speaker 1 (01:08:05):
I'm a team of a bunch of underdogs that just know
what we really is.
Check us out.

Speaker 4 (01:08:10):
Yeah, you see what I'm saying, Look man.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
Nobody think about Bigs.
They think that this OG righthere about to walk in this room
and out-rap everybody, and thenhe do it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
Yeah everybody.
And then he do it.
Yeah, like he do it, like he'swalking here for the gray.
No, y'all got, y'all got.

Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
Y'all got, y'all got great Just rap out, rap you
about in his own lane, like andI'm not about to talk to you
Like the fuck is wrong with you,young boys, and like you'll be
like man, it don't sound nutty,it's you right on it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
I got a nice group of rappers over there, man doing
your thing and Wes that nigga isspecial Super.

Speaker 4 (01:08:45):
Yeah, yeah, wes different.
We've been around Wes damn nearthe whole year Wes.
Zier and another show yeah,Zier.

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
Max fell in love with SE.
He heard SE.
He fell in love with him.
Mayor, mayor 103 is a problem,bro.
Listen, I'm sitting herelistening to him and Wes rap
back and forth Right.
Then he starts singing and notlike.

(01:09:15):
Not like, no, I'm talking aboutlike Brian McKnight, I can sing
, nigga.
I'm like, bro, it ain't no wayyou rap that good and sing that
well, you a chico yeah nigga cansing.

Speaker 3 (01:09:29):
That's the young niggas man.

Speaker 4 (01:09:30):
Them young generational.

Speaker 3 (01:09:32):
These niggas be motherfucking hybrids.

Speaker 4 (01:09:36):
No, for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
They be a like, they be a combination.

Speaker 4 (01:09:39):
That was a great word for them niggas.

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
I've been in the studio I be trying to find
little melodies I can use andall that shit.
Now it's like there's no waythat I'm about to just be
rapping.
Y'all come in here singing andall that shit, king Gibbs, man,
I'm going to go.
He's another nigga bro.
Crazy.
I be just listening, like whatis you doing?
I be watching Gibbs on theground when he be going in his
act and he be rapping, and thenhe just go and then the pen.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
I'm like I don't fuck like that.

Speaker 4 (01:10:09):
That shit is beautiful though man, it's a
timing and a talent into thatshit, bro.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
And the more he just stay in the stew and do that
shit, the more that shit willcome easy.
Just easy, bro, and the pinjust come from being outside bro
.

Speaker 4 (01:10:24):
Man, let's get out of here this, the Real of the Most
podcast man, yes sir.
I'm Core Network.
If you looking for me on thegram, I'm WhiteboyD2A and we got
Jonesy in the building D Jones.

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
For sure, Big life.
We're still counting blessingson All platforms.

Speaker 4 (01:10:38):
This the Realest and Most Podcast we out of here man,
yes, sir.