RUN ANT RUNN | FEAT ANT WE RUN STREETS I RTM PODCAST I SZN 2 EP 13 - Realer Than Most Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:21):
Really the Moose.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Podcast I'm Rilla.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
I'm Outta World Cash.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
I'm White Boy D2A and this the Rilla the Most Podcast
.
What's up man man?
What's up my boy?
What's going on my guys?
Today we got family in thebuilding man, yeah, yeah, yup.
And I have to say family.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Yeah, rightfully so.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
He been holding the city down for a long time, man
Long long time, but before.
I get into this introduction,though.
Right, I want to go ahead andask you Cash how you feeling bro
.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
I'm feeling real good man we doing super well yeah uh
, shout out to everybody who hassomething to do with my week
because it was wonderful and Ijust feel like we, we up in the
ranks, man, we getting to acertain point, so I feel good
about that man yeah yeah, yeah,what's your white boy?

Speaker 3 (01:28):
how you feeling?
I feel good, man, I feel good.
I feel the same way as cash andlike it just feel good to be,
like I'm saying working and I'msaying thriving in this space.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
So good y'all how you feeling bro excellent bro.
How you feeling bro Excellentbro.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Oh, you got to introduce yourself too.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Go ahead, say your name into the mic and let us
know how you doing today.
My name, ambitious.

Speaker 5 (01:55):
Ambitious.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Tell them how you feel today.
Man, my name Ambitious, I feelexcellent, like a movie
character.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Manifesting yeah, my character in this world.
Yeah, they had movie characterManifesting.
Yeah, my character in thisworld.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
Yeah, they had fraud on the list too.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Fraud, Friggety.
What I just got all worked, Notmarijuana y'all Not marijuana,
but yeah man.

Speaker 5 (02:19):
How you?

Speaker 2 (02:20):
feeling.

Speaker 5 (02:22):
How you?

Speaker 2 (02:22):
feeling Ant man, I'm feeling marvelous bro.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
We got Ant.
We running streets in thefucking building.

Speaker 5 (02:26):
I'm feeling marvelous , we got.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
Ant, we run the streets in the building On one
of the most podcasts.
This Ray be one of the ones.
Y'all the best podcast in theworld.
Thank you, damn.

Speaker 5 (02:40):
I was telling y'all behind the scenes that I watched
all y'all podcasts like everylast person that was on them,
john.
Appreciate that bro, and y'alldefinitely, knowing y'all thing,
you see what I'm saying Like.
So salute, respect, appreciateyou.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Vice versa, man, that mean a lot coming from you, one
of the pioneers in this shitbro.

Speaker 5 (03:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
That's like how I feel when it comes to, like this
camera content hip-hop space.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Like that's how I feel you're one of the pioneers,
bro yeah, man, all the way fromyour favorite artist, it don't
matter who you say you know,what I'm saying.
He gotta have something to dowith some type of content with
your favorite artist in the cityof Philadelphia.
Rob Markman yeah, rob MarkmanYouTube before YouTube.
Rob Markman.
Yeah, so like his Rob MarkmanMr YouTube in Philadelphia.

(03:29):
Rob Markman.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
You know what I mean?
Rob Markman, yeah, his impacton the culture has been
illustrious for over a decadeand we going to get into it
today, Rob.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Markman.
Yeah, rob Markman, you've beenreading the dictionary, rob
Markman.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
Bro, you know how I come Like this, ain't you know
what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 (03:45):
bro.
No, he ain't.
That's definitely another word.
I use that on the O.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
I use that on the O episode, so you've been reading
a dictionary.
Nah, bro, they O words.
I pull out the O words.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
Listen as I say like I be watching y'all.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
You know what?

Speaker 5 (04:02):
I like, I like his energy, though, right, you see,
I'm saying because, at the endof the day, he allowing and
making the, the people thaty'all have on, y'all show feel
like they appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah, I mean, that's what's lost in this game.
That's what it's about, man.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
We, we here to give you your every, last, every last
person that we sit, that wehave sit on this couch.
Uh, we, I even watch growing up, or I've watched them in their
career, I don't it don't matterif it's, and that's why I said
behind the scenes.

Speaker 5 (04:30):
All three of y'all is perfect.
You, you stop saying like youwish your error, he with his
error, yeah, it's.
I'm saying like and and I'll bewatching him and he just be in
it all, and it all just makessense.
And now that I'm here and I'mseeing the people, behind the
scenes.
It's like yo, this shit ismarvelous, so I salute y'all
again.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Appreciate that bro.

Speaker 5 (04:51):
Like presentation is everything.
You only get one time, you knowwhat I mean To show me how man
what you is who you is Right,right, right.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
I appreciate that, bro man man.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
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Speaker 1 (05:29):
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Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah, send that box through and anybody else who
want you know, got a brand.
It could be any want onRelative Moves, or y'all want
sponsors or anything.
That's another conversation.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
But just reach out to us man, Contact us.
We're going to have a talk.
We'll make it work.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
We're doing that now.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
We hit different tentacles in life.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
We're on our way to season three.
Almost we're getting that lane.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
We're at season three .
We almost there.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
But we got the pioneer up here, man, let's get
into it.
You know what I'm saying.
You know how we do it.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
Man, let's get it okay, so on on the relative most
podcast, apparent like we doour due diligence and it'd be
like, it'd be like, see, likewith this type episode right
here, these be the good jones,because we actually got a bunch
of things to talk about too muchlike for real.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
For real, you know what I'm saying.
It's like he could keep comingup all day man, we could just
keep going bootsy man on vlad.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
Well we could like this guy here, he doesn't see.
Come on, he done.
Had everybody in front of hiscamera yeah so we just gonna get
into it the real way on here onrelative moose podcast Podcast
Ant, where you from.

Speaker 5 (06:46):
North Philly, 24 Phenoxy.
Between Berks.
I used to just live all aroundthat area.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
You know what I mean, okay, okay, okay, coming up in
the North Philly area ofPhiladelphia it's like a rough
area to grow up in, you knowwhat I'm saying and in the area
like we don't really get much tolook at or much to see to like
go off of, especially likecoming up.

(07:13):
So just give me a few like yourinfluences.
Coming up ain't even really gotto be music just yet yeah,
because music came last okay,you see, I'm saying like I was
just doing a.

Speaker 5 (07:24):
I was selling t-shirts, I was selling, you
know.
I mean like I was just doing somany different things as even
before that, oh, oh I wasdelivering a pizza.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
You see what I'm saying oh wait for you to even
get that hustle mentality right,because white boys skip one
question and we normally ask,when you look out your window,
who you looked up to.
So who you admire as a youngin'.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
That's what I meant by influences Before the music.
Who was a few people that youlooked up to you?

Speaker 2 (07:55):
know we ain't talking about no celebrities I'm going
to give y'all something crazyright.

Speaker 5 (08:01):
The people I grew up with, I was seeing all the wrong
doing they was doing.
You see, I'm saying so.
It wasn't like like when I wascoming outside I was, you know,
seeing the people that do whatthey do, right, but I was like,
damn, they keep getting bookedthough you see, I'm saying like
what's the sense?
To keep trying, you know, Imean get to the next level.

(08:21):
You're gonna keep pullingyourself back yourself right so
it was like I just started goingto the clubs.
You know, what I mean.
Going to the clubs.
We used to go to Wild SkatingRing.
Every Saturday night it used tobe you'd be popping up.
I remember like the first timewe went up there we was like 15.
I was with his uncle and shit.
Rest in peace to Dre.

(08:41):
We used to go up there.
We used to be stealing cars andwe used to just be doing the
random Young Ball stuff.
You feel me?
Yeah, md and I used to lovemusic.
We used to love cars.
So once we got out of highschool we started delivering
pieces Got me.
So we was like the only littleYoung Balls around the way,
delivering pieces and pulling upthe people.

(09:02):
But we was pulling up right,you know what I mean Realms on
it, you know what I mean Systems.
But then we used to have peoplethat was younger than us.
They was the ones that used toget out and get a piece of it.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
Okay, you see what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (09:15):
And we just started grinding, just kept grinding.
You see what I'm saying.
And by me loving music I up,like with a lot of people, that
was rapping in my ear Okay.
I Just think you know how towrite right.
I just figured like I gotta dosomething.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
I mean I should be around people, some of them
rappers, you can name justpicked up this camera.

Speaker 5 (09:36):
Yeah, some.
Of them represent shout out theMert.
Shout the young Sam Mm-hmm.
Shout out to Santos.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
I remember this era.
That's why.

Speaker 5 (09:47):
I'm going to use the name.
Shout out to Tierra Wack.
Shout out to Core.
Shout out to Lee Mazin.
Shout out to the kid with thegift Lane Bain.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
Savage Young.

Speaker 5 (09:58):
Savage.
It's a lot of people.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
But you know like.
Yeah, it's all popping.

Speaker 5 (10:11):
No, because sometimes it be people that I be
forgetting.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (10:15):
Because I deal with so many people on a daily basis.
You see what I'm saying, rightright, it's like the NBA and NFL
.
They have drafts for a reason,so you know what I mean.
Their business can keep keepgoing because if you stick with
these, these random people andwas sometimes going right out,
so I was a person that wasalways wanting to open my door

(10:35):
and try to see.
Like that's why, when people,you know who is the best and who
, it was never nobody the bestof me.
It was about paying the city onso we all can really get to.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
I mean and that was my goal and that's still going
to be my goal I feel that so so,okay, okay, okay, so so after
that point, you inspired bymusic.
Give me some of your musicalinfluences coming up, like what
was some of the first thingsthat inspired you listening to
damn mex and m 50-cent camera.

Speaker 5 (11:07):
They used to just be like like music.
Back then, like I'm gonna skipa little bit, I moved down
further right and I startedunderstanding about music, like
when people go out to the club.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
When people go out to the club they really don't want
to pay attention to bars, theywant to be with her speed and
though I't even want you to getright there right there, because
, like I ain't gonna lie, wegonna get there I want you to
stay right here.
What was some of your?

Speaker 5 (11:33):
your musical first inspirations and music, and the
first it was, it was, it was memusic, it was damn much.
It was like people like majorfigures, okay, state, state
property, you some saying,because they made me feel like
like when we was growing up tosee somebody on TV.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
It's possible.

Speaker 5 (11:52):
No, it wasn't possible.
Okay, we grew up in an erawhere you only seen these
celebrities at certain places.
Facts Like right now, somebodycan grow up overnight and be a
celebrity people.
These young kids will be like,oh yeah, celebrity, yeah, that's
a lovely, we saw it on beatshere, son.
Like you never see them.
So it's like, damn, somebodycan grow up overnight and be a
celebrity People.
These young kids will be like,oh, they a celebrity, a
celebrity, we saw it on BET orsomething like you ain't never
see them.
So it's like damn was they fromanother planet.
So when I started gettingaround all this stuff, I started

(12:14):
understanding all that.
So, you know, what I mean.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
Okay so, mase X, that era influenced us all.
We gonna say what, from like 95to about 98, that era 99.
Okay, so in that era, what youlike, just becoming a teenager
at that time yeah, I was, Ithink I was.

(12:39):
I was in franklin in franklinyeah, shout out, shout out,
shout Bam.

Speaker 5 (12:43):
Say no more.
That's my cousin.
You went to school with him.
No, that's my cousin, okay, andI remember this one summer
that's the year that Mason, allof them came out, dmx and all of
them.
It was just the feel of theworld.
I know what you're talkingabout.
It was just different being akid, just moving around, running
around.

(13:04):
Like nowadays it's like we usedto go on the other side and go
chill with other.
Like they can't do that no more.

Speaker 4 (13:10):

Speaker 5 (13:11):
So like when you think about that era it was like
yo, it was just like theselittle kids don't even be at
swimming pools in the summer.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
no more, bruh, they ain't doing none of this shit,
none of the things that we wasdoing to have fun, kickball the
little Right on the ground withthe oh none of that exists.

Speaker 5 (13:26):
They don't even have fun.
No more Like I'll be ridingpast Right.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
I see, I see a lot of kids out there.

Speaker 5 (13:31):
They don't see me more.
Bro sees me more Right.
And then yesterday we was goingto an event and his little girl
she probably was like 15playing with his little boy, but
she would just scream a lotlike ah, and it's like a young
lady like yo, what would makeyou just want to do that, just
out the middle of nowhere, youfeel like so that like they
don't need like that's, theyconsider this, they

(13:52):
consideration to have fun.
Crazy.
So that's why I say like but ifyou understand life, you
understand that time goes.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (14:00):
You said, saying you just got to figure that out, you
just got to figure it out andmove with it.
You're right, right becauseyour memories is only gonna be
your memories, I mean that's afact.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
So so you know, you you going to Franklin, you you
growing up in a you, you, youadapt into the hip-hop culture
and so so what became the point?
That you say, all right, I'm, Iwant to come, I right, I want
to add a contribution to this, Iwant to put me in a position to

(14:32):
be in something you contributedto the coaching.

Speaker 5 (14:35):
See what it was Before.
These last couple months in mylife I never wrote nothing down,
I used to just get up and go.
Months in my life I never wrotenothing down I would.
I used to just get up and go.
So during that time, when Ifirst got this camera, I never
thought none of this wouldhappen.
Even the people that I dealtwith working with like, if I
look up today, these people aresome bodies, you some saying so

(14:57):
it was just.
Uh, I just went to walmart,bought a camera, just playing
around me and my cousin like yo,we on, yeah, natural.
So we bought the camera.
I filmed a couple people, tookthe camera back, got my money
back, waited two days when to gobuy the camera.
Yeah, I just kept doing that.
So the dvd was like.
So I never really thought aboutthe, what was going to really

(15:18):
happen, what, whatever we wasdoing because remember, it
wasn't on YouTube or nothing wewas just like making DVDs and
hoping somebody would see it.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
So you, so you get the key, you go by the camera.
You'll cause we're going to getthis fucking camera.
We were making DVD.
Well, got the money, but we'regoing to figure this.

Speaker 5 (15:37):
No, it wasn't even.
It wasn't.
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
It wasn't even going to be a DVD we would just get a
new camera just because we knewpeople, my little cousins,
taking it back and getting themoney back because I was done
with it yeah, yeah, like listen,listen bro, listen, if you're
gonna allow me to buy somethingthat I could use, right, yeah,
and you want something.

Speaker 5 (15:58):
I got 30 days to make this happen.
I'm gonna take them 30 days andI'm gonna make it happen.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
Now I got what I need Y'all.

Speaker 5 (16:06):
Got y'all camera back now.
I'm going to say two days later, let me come grab that again.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
Yeah, that's like renting a property Exactly.

Speaker 5 (16:19):
That's some responsibility in there.
You just gave out game on theroad.
That's why I said rent thatReal game.
Let me hear that againresponsibility in this.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
You just gave out game on a real game that's why I
?

Speaker 3 (16:25):
said real game.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Let me hear that again Don't go doing that for no
shirts and sneakers and shitlike that.
Now Only only listen.

Speaker 4 (16:33):
He told y'all to do this with real game when I did
it.

Speaker 5 (16:37):
I was just doing what I figured was best for me to be
able to, to succeed to the nextpoint.
So it wasn't, I didn't knowthat was a thing.
Yeah, after I was the onlyperson doing it.
Yeah, you see what I'm saying,so that would like, like I said
I buy it.
The cameras was like 400 backthere.
Yeah, I take my 30 days, and youknow I mean figure it out and
then I take that joint back, getmy 400 back yeah now I got my

(16:59):
footage and I got my 400 moneynow I'm gonna go buy it again
and continue but now I buy theown yeah so you know what I mean
it got me to where I'm at today, because I never thought
picking up a camera would allowme to have a brand period.
I got a brand, bro, like notjust rap, like a brand no effect

(17:20):
marketing brand that thatreally can do stuff for people
you know facts, not just in forthe outfit outside the world.
I watch you build that brand,bro.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
I watch you build that brand before we continue.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
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Speaker 3 (17:34):
You're a hater it's free man, because it's free
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We right right, right now Right right.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
Yeah, back to the interview man we got from.
We run the streets and thebuilding man.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
I ain't going to lie, this is what I wanted to ask.
This is why was like soakingeverything up like right when
they come to philly right, likelike we really like this, like
the state you could throw newyork in there too.
But like when you hear theserappers saying who they got this
from?
Yeah like I remember the firsttime, like high bridge was

(18:58):
popping, all crazy.
They was interviewing don qlike they was expecting him to
say Stack Bundo.
He said NH.
Reed Yep, like Reed NH.

Speaker 5 (19:10):
Look, you know what's crazy being that you're saying
that I'm going to put thisfootage out too.
I'm going to say Rocky, and allof them came down right and
they said that we was the peoplethat inspired them, all the
people that you just named.
Nh was Joey Jahan, reed Dollazand all of them.
I picked the footage out backthen, but people probably went

(19:31):
over their heads.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
Was Yam still alive in that footage?
I'm pretty sure we was on theradio.

Speaker 5 (19:37):
We was on the come out show.
Yeah, most likely it was, ifASAP was that new.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
Yeah it was early what I wanted to basically say
is shout out to A$AP.
What I wanted to say is wereally got to get certain points
and credentials and people'sstories in this interview,
because when they come to Phillyit's two road for the streets

(20:04):
it's head shots.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
It's we run the streets, there you go.
You feel what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 (20:11):
Yeah yeah, so I don't even want this to be like a.
So you, this rapper, and this,like, no, like I want to hear
like, all right, boom.
Everybody knows that specialmoment where it's like all right
, I'm ink in with the camera andnow we're going to get to the
moment where like, oh, all right.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
That breakout moment.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
I know I could really have a brand.
I'm doing this Really build andyour opinion, because we got
the high school, we got theinfluence, so listen, right.

Speaker 5 (20:41):
Look and moving forward right, With all the
experience that I learned in thebusiness.
What I'm doing now is I'msaying all right, listen, come
with me for a month, spend twohours per week, four weeks in a
month, with me and my producer.
We're going to help mold youand get your business right.

(21:02):
You see what I'm saying?
So the things that I'm trying tobring to the table now is is
only to the next level that I Idon't see what's going on in
philadelphia, like I was looking, I was.
I'm creating a little networkthat was like bnt, right, and
it's like a lot of these artistsdon't even be having their
youtube channels together.
You some saying so, like, ifI'm looking for music videos or

(21:24):
I'm looking for more contentfrom you, I should be able to
look for you outside ofInstagram, like.
So what I want to bring to thetable with all my knowledge and
anything, just being a serviceprovider, I mean everything that
I know, anything that I couldgive to the next one, you know,
listen, man, make sure yourbusiness right, make sure this I
mean yeah.
I book a month with me and I'mgoing to get you right, right.

(21:46):
So, even if we don't mess witheach other outside of this,
you're going to be right, right.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
So and that's more a game you just dropping it on
them.
But do you, can you take usback to that time?
You think Like when was themoment where you was like I'm in
with the camera and then atthat moment you knew it?

Speaker 3 (22:08):
was going to be a.
We've run a shot and this is aseries.
Yeah, like, and I'm going torun the city.
Yeah, it's going to be a 3.5,and it was when I was it was it
was when I dropped the first DVD.
There we go.

Speaker 5 (22:19):
Because before I got to that point, it was somebody
that was paying our DVDs andthey was like yo don't do it.
I'm like why don't do it?
You're like the game ain't whatit is, no more.
And this was like the headshots.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
So that's why you were saying what you Okay, okay,
so is.

Speaker 5 (22:35):
So when I was taking the camera back just period.
My mind was I was asking me whyI so.
It became the moment when Istarted moving around to these
different stories and I droppedoff 20.
Dropped off 20, but I wasn'tpicking up no money.
I was on consignment.
They was calling me back in thenext oh, and I need some more.

(22:57):
So now I had the leverage.
So once I know I had theleverage, I know, know, I can
make things happen Okay.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
That's basically what that's business, that's
business.

Speaker 5 (23:08):
It was more of how can I make this bigger than what
this is?

Speaker 3 (23:12):
What you made.
It was popular demand.

Speaker 5 (23:14):
Exactly that's what I'm saying.
Like I gave it to him.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
You cornered the market.

Speaker 5 (23:18):
Giving it to him, basically saying yo, I'm sure my
product pay me on the back end.
Pay me on the back.
I'm gonna get it still cuz.
Yeah, why are we dealing withthis?
I'm probably over here.
And I'm over here creatinganother lane.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
I'm creating merch and doing this and that what's
the names of these stores and, Iguess, setups and shops?

Speaker 3 (23:41):
What's the name?

Speaker 1 (23:43):
What's the names of the other ones?

Speaker 5 (23:45):
where you had your DVDs, bracken O'Bell, shout out
to them.
They still moving.
They down South Street doingtheir thing, shout out to Dance,
Dance 69th Street.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
Uh-huh going on area.

Speaker 5 (23:56):
That was Bracken O'Bell.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
Black yeah Upper.
What's the uh Sands Upper DerbyS uh sounds up a derby.
Sounds up a derby.

Speaker 5 (24:02):
You had jay phenomenal records, feasts, 52nd
street.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
And then you just had me, franklin mills mall, and
what was and what was the nameof the first dvd?

Speaker 5 (24:18):
the wire one, the wire one yeah, the wire one,
because we took we took what wasgoing on in the world and just
made it, since anybody want totalk about this all, right, now
we're going to associateourselves with this and being as
though you said people weresaying it ain't the gaming this
and that.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
What year was this?

Speaker 5 (24:32):
like 2007.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
all right.
So I want everybody to realizestraight from from the rip right
, we are talking with someonewho started their business their
brand and what they doing,after, the highlight of which
you do like people getting oncameras and and Spitting and

(25:04):
DVDs and all that he started inthose seven and that's after the
, the, the blow up of it likethe whole breakup and all that
yeah.
So that just make it even morelike dope, yeah, and like five
times better believing inyourself.
I'm a bet on myself.
You, yeah, and you two came outin the fire but at this time it

(25:26):
wasn't catching.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
Yeah, it ain't catch right away, and that's, and
that's See, and that's whatthat's.

Speaker 5 (25:32):
The difference between what I see today is like
I see a lot of people in thestreets.
They were like oh bro, what youabout to do you have to put out
another DVD is like.
It's like no, I'm not about toput out a DVD, I'm going to put
out a video game.
I'm going to put out somethingthat's going to be attached to
them, because everybody walkingaround with their phones in
their hands, you see what.
I'm saying Like back theneverybody was going to the TV,

(25:52):
Everybody in the projectswatching TV.
It was like how many of us inhere, we all watching this DVD,
we all watching.
One day I just figured like yo,I got to give people my vision
or anything, Right?

Speaker 1 (26:06):

Speaker 5 (26:07):
So, being that I'm going to give people my vision
and it's dope to really see,when y'all get a million views,
or y'all get a certain amount ofviews on y'all videos, y'all
feel good about it.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
You see what.

Speaker 5 (26:19):
I'm saying, being that y'all was the creators and
all that, okay, and that's why Itell people about being a
director.
It's like you could change theworld how people see it all you
got to do is build the following.
You're saying so it's, it's.
It's just the grind in me.
I'm gonna just figure it out,just period.
I'm not gonna sit back, I'm notgonna complain.

(26:39):
You some say what am Icomplaining to?
Yeah because nobody, the onlything in person that you
complain to won't use it againstyou one day, damn.
You know, what I'm saying, sojust imagine all these years
Giving them ammo to use againstyou.
All these years that I had inme that people know what I was
doing and all that I neverspilled my beans with nobody on

(27:00):
nothing.
Commend you on that I just keptit to myself and just moved a
lot from it I fell back for acouple years.
But, being those couple yearsthat I fell back, I learned the
behind the scenes things yousome saying.
So now I know from the back tothe, you know what I'm saying.
Like I even tried to being anartist one time to put out a
video game that was like def jayand van dudden.

(27:20):
And I'm about to come backaround and put it out because
Because before it got like30,000, downloads A real video
game?
Yeah, a video game it was outalready, yeah it was out, it had
like 30,000 downloads.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
What you doing.

Speaker 5 (27:34):
I had a nation on that joint.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
You tried to slide that in there and just go real
quick.
But how that even went, though,because Was they collecting
coins?

Speaker 5 (27:47):
No how did I even want, though.
Like because was I collectingcoins?
I had no, it was like StreetFighter.
Street Fighter and H&M Likethey, like they be.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
I got a video on one of my phones.

Speaker 5 (27:51):
I'm a show you all, but it was like Def Jam, you
know, like Street Fighter,mortal Kombat.
And I was the graphic graphicswas everything bro.
So the only thing that didn'thappen is like look the only
thing that didn't happen.
Can I see my phone?
Only thing that didn't happenis right, look the only thing
that didn't happen.
Can I see my phone?

Speaker 2 (28:11):
the only thing that didn't happen was uh, it was
about the marketing dollars.
Like we had fat boy ssc, notfat boy.

Speaker 5 (28:15):
He was fat boy, ssc, but he was about to get on the
game.
But we had the uh, the boy,danny roe that used to be
hopping around and all that.
And, like I said, we we had, wehad the philly artists on there
, we had a nation on there whenmeli was on there tears was on
there.
Oh, that's fire right there,right there, right there oh like
all these different people wasthat on there, but when it came

(28:38):
to the time when the game gotdone, I felt like they ain't
think it was gonna come out likethis okay but we had a business
right.
So if I'm being like yo, bro,you going to post it.
Yeah, I'm going to post it, butthey probably figuring out like
yo if I post this.
That probably get you know whatI mean.
So, like I didn't have thebusiness right and it's cool.

Speaker 4 (28:55):
I learned from that yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (28:59):
But, I still could just bring it back out.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
All right, so look Real little most try to do
something with you, man.

Speaker 5 (29:06):
All right, look, but look, look and look, let me give
y'all one more thing about thevideo game how it was concepted.
It was concepted where it waslike, say, if he fighting you on
your board wherever you from,that's your background.
Now, when I'm fighting you, I'mplaying your music.
So that's a string you get itso a little kid look, I had my

(29:27):
son on that joint.
Little kids playing the gameall day.
They just listen to the music,like when you play Madden
football or NBA Live and thenyou walking around in Walmart
and everything you hear, thatmusic, that rock and roll music,
you be like, but you likebecause they just sit there
while you playing the game.
It just be on your brain, andthat's how I figured a video
game would be.

(29:47):
It just gonna be on somebody'sbrain, you know what?

Speaker 3 (29:49):
I mean Okay.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
That's dope.
What was the name of the videogame?

Speaker 5 (29:52):
though A Mike Beef, this boy shot.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
So look you basically that's what it do right, a Mike
Beef.

Speaker 5 (30:01):
That's what I do, right?
Hey, my beef.
Hey man, let's get, let's getto the meat and the potatoes.

Speaker 4 (30:05):
We try to stop.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
We probably go straight to the meat but say
here we go.
You felt the void.
So basically, when you came out, you felt you felt a serious
void.
And not only did you feel theserious, serious void, you were
putting unknown people in frontof the camera that were actually
hot.
Yeah.

(30:27):
So like I heard you justtalking, like at the time, like
you really breaking people,because I think the first time I
ever heard elena l it was onyour screen.
You feel me?

Speaker 5 (30:42):
shout out the kid with the gift.
She was always gifted man,always dope, always good.
She had the energy.
She just was.
She just was a spark, bro tiarawet like they would just they
were just sparks.
They were sparks like santoslike they were sparks.
They were sparks like what?
Like I said when I, when Irecord people right, I can tell

(31:03):
how far they're going to go.
I think that's just in me.
Yeah, like I can just tell.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
And everybody that I felt that with is where they at.
Okay.
So I want to ask you this rightIn 07, it's like all right.
So back then when, when the,when the um dvds and the and
everything was getting recorded,you know you had your, you had

(31:33):
like your top eight that's thevideo games you had like your
top eight rappers, everybodyalways named, but it was a whole
bunch of them back then name,but it was a whole bunch of them
back then and yet ever a littlebit everybody was really known.
A little bit like, if youreally think about we run the
streets and up, it's likeeverybody got more shine because

(31:56):
it was more internet, it wasmore YouTube, it was more this,
that and the third.
So when you say everybody who Idealt with is up here and up,
what you mean when you say that,like they at a point where the
city know them, or they at apoint where they got real
success off music I'm, I'm.

Speaker 5 (32:14):
I'm speaking of artists that I dealt with,
period.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying,like it's it's.
Yeah.
They somebody like, like, liketiara wank meek mills um
wrestling piece of pnb rock core, um keep going, it's, it's um
you know the name ot the real.
Um.
Shout out the rider.

(32:36):
Uh, shout out the leaf.
Um, I was.
I was out like I shout out.
Shout out the two rare.
Um, I was just dealing with alot of people early in their
career.
You some saying like I hadthose talks with people.
We work we.
So when I say those artists, Iknow I got something with

(32:59):
something, because every time Ileave and come back I'll always
find a new gym.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
So and so so Okay.
So in between, in between himOkay, him coming out here, shots
boom over him coming out, boom.
Youtube is runningsimultaneously, but it's no
specific platform on YouTube youcan go and get the actual

(33:27):
content from.
You gotta steal it from him oryou gotta get it from Headshot.
This was the content at thetime on YouTube.

Speaker 5 (33:38):
Let me ask you something, because I came to
YouTube late, so when didYouTube really start popping?

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Okay, so I'ma say, i'ma say 06.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
No, no, no, no no.

Speaker 5 (33:50):
Like what was it known for.
You know how.
Like remember the little applike Vine and all that.
Like what was YouTube known forin the beginning.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
What do you mean when you say popping?

Speaker 5 (34:02):
Popping is like everybody's on there, just
period, just period.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
Everybody like that's the only thing he's talking
about that didn't happen until2008.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
My spacing YouTube okay right.

Speaker 4 (34:21):
I was going to say 8 or 10.

Speaker 5 (34:23):
I was going to say in between them two years.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
I started in 2008.
No look.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
And this is what I'm trying to tell you.
That's why I just said it.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
That's why you're an extra special.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
That's why I'm telling you why you play a
significant part In not justonly the culture.

Speaker 5 (34:43):
But also the YouTube, because when you coming out,
you the actual person that'sputting out the content.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
At the time, YouTube didn't have.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
YouTube People uploaded it.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
They had to steal it from the.

Speaker 5 (34:58):
DVD.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
They had to take it from.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
They would just grab it from anywhere Y'all created
it, y'all would have to go do onGrab it from any created it
Right, right, y'all will have togo do the work and then people
go up and you know another thingto Like unless you doing like
clips like he he doing it now.
But you see how you you can'tgo on YouTube, take two off of
the streets and this 30 minutehour video right Right.

(35:23):
Do that with his shots.
You can do that with you,because you was intertwined with
all that.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
And you came in when you two.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
Exactly.
And that leads me to my nextquestion.
Right, you talk about theserappers that you worked with
Every artist.
You know the spark, you knowwhat they going.
You feel me, so I want to askyou this right, when you was

(35:53):
doing it and you was meetingthese rappers.
What made you not ever want tolike I know this rapper going to
reach this much success?
Let me just get on the team.
What, what discipline,self-discipline, and what did
you have in yours?
Like I'm we running streets,I'm not going to try to go

(36:13):
further, like, see you, feel me,it was, it's like it was never
that, because a lot of thesepeople was my regular homies.

Speaker 4 (36:22):
You see what I'm saying so.

Speaker 5 (36:25):
Sometimes life take people different paths okay we
come from an era where all thiswasn't wasn't just pushed into.
So you see, I know what you'retalking about.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
It's like I know what you're saying too, I just was I
, I would just live in my lifewhen you in that room, you in
that room, you know what I'msaying, like I'm gonna going to
support you to the fullest.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
Right, you know what I'm saying, but I'm not in
response to what your businessis.

Speaker 5 (36:49):
I got to be able to bring something to the team, not
running around with it.
Yeah, so if this fall, ain'tnobody going to be able to bring
this shit back?
I mean bring it back up.
But if I go out and branch offand try to spread, you know, so
it can, can really be a you somesaying, because us in

(37:10):
Philadelphia we talented frombeing artists and entertainers
to comedians.
Everything you said saying islike why is not?

Speaker 1 (37:20):
I will wait at everybody.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
Everybody uses.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
I'm gonna keep it real though though I'm going to
keep it real.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
We have limited resources here.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
Real quick though, because I was in some of them
rooms.
It's not about the, but lookit's my fault.

Speaker 5 (37:32):
It's not about limited resources, bro.
It's about the resourcesgetting to the people Right.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
You see what.

Speaker 5 (37:37):
I'm saying Because we all say things right, but look
up right now, tell me who'sshowing these little kids how to
get their paperwork together.
Just, period, yeah, just tellme that, like they could all.
We all speak about it, but tellme who's actually doing it,
right?

Speaker 3 (37:54):
because they, they ain't gonna do it.
They'd rather wait till theyoung boy sign the paperwork,
and then, and then, and then bedisgruntled about it.
And then they want to say use adickhead for signing it.
That's what they want to do, webackwards here.

Speaker 5 (38:09):
You see what I'm saying, instead of jumping on
their head, but that's what Isay, and that's what I say, like
when I'm creating in today'sworld is going to do that
because, at the end of the day,the game is independent now.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
Okay, so all the people right that you had in
front of your camera.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Right Before you continue real quick, let me jump
in there real fast.
He said he was pretty muchasking you, like, why you never,
like joined nobody squad like,because you've been around a lot
of people from I'm talkingabout OBA, maybe because there
wasn't a squad when I was thereI'm talking about.

Speaker 5 (38:44):
But wait.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
The reason why I'm saying this is because he was
trying to see why you neverjoined Nobody Click and I
remember, like back in thosedays, right, Like they get that
content, Y'all was the content.
You was the content man, Liketo be honest.
Like so you probably didn'ttake notice of the YouTube rise

(39:06):
at the time when it was rising.
So and even if it, even if youdid, you were still on.
We were on the streets.
You feel me Like so it wasn'tjoining no clique for you.
Like I was in some of themrooms when you was there, bro
and niggas like yo ain't here.
It was ain't here.
That's how I feel you see whatI'm saying.

Speaker 4 (39:26):
Like you was ant still you know what I'm saying,
so like when you walked in theroom.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
You still was somebody at the time.
You feel?

Speaker 5 (39:33):
me.
I just was really taught tostand on your own.
10, bro, and that's just reallyhow you really summed it up,
because we are men.
You're see what I'm saying?
I'm here to do me and do my job, just period.
No matter how we figure thisout, I always felt like I was a
leader period.

(39:53):
You see, what I'm saying.
I'm going to be the personthat's going to try.
You hear a lot of people talkand I just be like I don't talk.
You really don't hear metalking, because I never just
show the action, I show my work.
People talk and I just be likeI don't talk, like you really
don't hear me talking, because Inever just show the action, I
show my work.
So it was more like i'ma stillsupport y'all.
You know I'm saying go ahead,i'ma still support y'all and
I'll find somebody.

(40:14):
I mean and just keep it likegod just kept placing me with
different people, you see whatI'm saying like I'm still all
right with anybody.
But I look at it now like it wasall a blessing, because how
things turned out in my head yousee what I'm saying, like all
the things I got going on rightnow.
Sometimes you get inside of agame when you don't even know

(40:34):
nothing.
You don't know none of thestuff that's going on until it's
late, and that's the thing thatyou was talking about.
Being that it's late, theydon't get the knowledge that
it's late.
Why we don't give them thatknowledge before so they can go
in the door and have leverage tothe situation?
Because, some of these youngboys that be doing they thing
from comedians and they thingthey have the leverage because
they came to y'all.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
And they be having the people.

Speaker 5 (40:55):
But once they figure oh they team gotta do this, this
, this, that and the third.
Now they take a percentage fromit's for me, yeah, so hold on.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
So real quick, all right, because I said I'm gonna
correct this.
When we do this, like sometimeswe'd be so like into our city
and what we know, that we'dforget that we didn't have
chicago, harlem dc alleverywhere on this pod.

(41:24):
So it's not just Philly peoplelistening when they see this.
So we sitting here, wecongratulating you and telling
you how much of a pioneer we is,but the people out there we
know, but the people out therenot really knowing the accolades
of why we can even say stufflike this to you right so I

(41:47):
already hit, we hit the wire.
That's when you felt like, allright, this is a brand this is.

Speaker 5 (41:53):
This is ain't I'm making this a staple, so we
ain't gotta go I just reallystarted being everywhere, bro,
really paying we running streetsto the streets, to exactly what
it is.
It's a marketing and promotioncompany.
If you was doing something, Iwas there.
I don't care where it was, Iwas just grinding, just grinding
, just grinding.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
But that's what I'm saying, see, all right, look
that's what I'm saying.
See, this is why I said what Isaid.
You got too raw for the streets.
They not going call these of nomarketing.
Promote company headshots.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
not gonna call these of that top class and none of
that.
So this was showing up with the, with the we run the street hat
.
He had the.
He had the.
He had the hoodie.
He had the t-shirt under thehoodie.

Speaker 5 (42:36):
He had the I was coming, I was, I was coming as a
, as a, as a marketer myself, onthe back of pocket of his jean
and he had it on his truck.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
I said this nigga is different, but this is no
bullshit.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
So what are the things are?
I'm going to just ask flat out,what are the things that, as as
as we run the streets, tell thepeople some of the things that
made you who you are sittinghere and just just how he is to
you?

Speaker 5 (43:05):
just just being different, just trying new
things.
You some saying like alwaystrying to figure out what's the
next step with the world, whatthey're gonna be doing next, not
now you some saying like ifeverybody doing the same thing,
you really not going to get anotice, because everybody's
doing the same thing.
We always look at a lot of thepeople.

(43:25):
They used to call people weird,and all that right, but if you
turn around, those same peoplethat was calling weird, it's the
ones that's on top now andthey're the ones that got people
acting like them there.
So you got to be yourself forone.
That's the.
That's the first thing.
Just being yourself and knowingyou, you can stand on your own
10.
You got as much Like I knowwhat I bring to the table.

(43:49):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
You say what you're saying Like you got to stand on
your own 10 because somebodycould have been back in the day.
What was it?
What like 08,?
You said, Mm-hmm 08, you seeniggas walking around with
cameras and shit like that, whatyou like.

Speaker 5 (44:09):
This nigga this, like who is this?

Speaker 2 (44:10):
yeah, and that's, and that's what I'm saying, like
they look at.
All right, they'll look at,because they're like let's keep
it, because all this that'sgoing on, all this cool with
this content and this exactlynow, exactly, get on here and
say it, bro, that was weird backthere, bro.
That was cutting back there,but look but look, but look the
point the point is right out of,but look the point is right Get
the fuck out of here.

Speaker 5 (44:27):
And look and this is what I'm trying to say it became
a point Like pin runs oncameras wasn't a thing.
That shit was cutting bro, andthat's what I'm about to bring
up.

Speaker 3 (44:38):
And in a corner that's in a studio.
He don't want his face on thecorner.

Speaker 5 (44:40):
That's OG right there , don't put him on camera but I
made fuck wrong with you I was,I was, I was one of those ones
right that made that market evenopen you don't want to, because
I was, I was everywhere, onevery block
with that every day and the samepeople that people was hanging

(45:01):
with that was, they was callingit and all that.
These are people that I knewregular personally, so I never
had to even change who I wasaround them, because I used to
fight when we was young.
It just when the guns startcoming, I know the consequences
of that.
Oh, I don't want to be there, Idon't want to be around.
Oh, yeah, I mean, I want to beout here with you.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
So I'm a figure it's all from a different way.
With making great decisions,bro, this is what people try to
make nutty and corn, makingmoney, you know.
But why is it so?

Speaker 5 (45:33):
that's and that's what I'm trying to figure out.
Like now.
This can relate to everybodyacross the world, like what
makes the main goal in thesituation that we are doing
hustling is not to get moneyright, it's to get money, not
get somewhere and then you loseit all that's good.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
That go back to your single.
What's the name of that singleyou just played earlier?

Speaker 5 (45:56):
Nah, nah.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
Nah, nigga, nah, nah, nigga, nah, nah.

Speaker 5 (46:00):
How the hook go.
Say the whole.
Thing.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
Nah, nigga, nigga, nah, nigga, nigga nah.

Speaker 5 (46:04):
I basically tell people listen man like you,
ain't gotta have a uh a tattooon your eye to be cool.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
To be cool like you ain't gotta do all this, all
this stuff that they say is cool.

Speaker 5 (46:16):
To be cool, you know what I mean.
Like everybody call somebody areal, that's.
That was the whole that was thewhole.
That was the whole point.
Right, somebody like yo, he areal, yeah, but what if this
don't take care of his?
Kids now all these other peoplethat might look at the world
different because they don't gotkids.
You say, the people that don'tgot kids they might look up to
him like, but in the real worldlike, no, he's not cool so it

(46:37):
was just it was just a point ofjust saying oh listen, you ain't
got to be a follower be aleader.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
This is why I call you pioneer, this is why I told
you when you walked in.
I said, bro, this shit in hereis going to be a little
different today Because, likethat's what I was basically
saying, bro, like we looking atthat shit at that time, like,
bro, that shit, corny as shit,what the fuck he doing in here
with that camera around his neck?

(47:03):
You fucking cut it.
Don't cut that camera and don'tput me on camera, bro.
Like that's how it's met now.
Like niggas, embrace the camera, bro.
I'm just being honest.

Speaker 5 (47:13):
But that's what I'm saying.
Like me personally, but mepersonally, I never experienced
nothing and when I used to go inthese crips, there was so much
stuff on the junk.
Yeah, you gotta, you gottaremind yourself, right?
People was pointing and gun ata camera, bro, and it never
feared me because I grew uparound this.

(47:34):
Yeah, it's like you know howthey say like you, you get
adapted to which?

Speaker 3 (47:38):
because?

Speaker 5 (47:39):
at the end of the day , the people that was behind
that gun, even though they seemistakes and all that, yeah, but
they, you know what I'm saying,like no it gun, even though
they see mistakes and all that,yeah, but they you see what I'm
saying.
You trusted them no it's noteven that they trust them.
Most of them ain't even hadequipment Okay, so they could do
this all day long.

Speaker 4 (47:51):
Right.

Speaker 5 (47:52):
Listen, we're going to be behind the scenes before
we doing that.

Speaker 3 (47:56):
Oh, that's cool too, but like what I'm saying is
withhered you basically like,like you've been around, and not
only that.
You, you like.
You've been saying the wholefucking John that you've been
staying on your, your, your 10,no matter what situation, no
matter what, I'm sticking to myguns, like you never put your
camera down and you always cameand did your work and you got

(48:19):
the fuck out of there.
And I respect that, bro, becauselike now, content run the
fucking world Content of thereand I respect that, bro, because
, like now, content run theworld, content like can you
imagine us, bro, without havingthis having?

Speaker 5 (48:30):
these cameras on us, bro, because our audio, even
leaving here these cameras.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
Be honest, can you know?

Speaker 2 (48:35):
niggas wanted to get in front of ink.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
Look, bro, back then, audio wanted to be on his
camera.
It was cool.
No, yeah, his camera, it washis camera, it was cool His
camera Pretty much once he wasout there.

Speaker 5 (48:46):
Yeah, it had to be my camera, his camera.
Yeah, it had to be my camera.

Speaker 3 (48:52):
This person with the camera, trying to know his
camera.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
Yeah, they wasn't telling Ink to get the fuck out
of there.

Speaker 5 (48:57):
That's why I was saying because he ain't
experienced that, but I'm notsaying him.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
You saying at the time it wasn't cool.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
I'm saying the cameraman when he had the camera
.

Speaker 5 (49:06):
That's why I always look, I always said, I always
felt like.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
And that's why.

Speaker 3 (49:09):
I'm saying you were popping there.

Speaker 5 (49:12):
I'm a mate holding this camera, the thoroughest
motherfucker in the world dog.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (49:17):
Because we still do the same thing, I just told you,
we just try to figure out,because listen, to figure out,
because listen, if you'relistening to somebody, if you
just listen to somebody, you'rereally not going to feel them
right, right.
But if you watch the video ofthem doing whatever personality
and everything, uh-huh, you'regoing.
You start saying, like thefootage bring it to life.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
Yeah, exactly, yeah no, without the cameraman, a lot
of stuff wouldn't happen thecontent you need to come just
bring it to life without thecameraman.
A lot of stuff wouldn't happen.

Speaker 4 (49:44):
You don't.

Speaker 5 (49:44):
Period the content you need, the content to bring
in that life.
Just period.
Without the cameraman, a lot ofcontent won't happen.
Period, Because even once wetake that footage, we still get
a world or a vision of thatperson.
Period.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
And you created a platform back then bro so at
that time it wasn't too manyplatforms, so you had to trust a
person's platform to even be onit, because if you was a nut
type of guy, people wouldn'thave jumped on you.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
So let me ask you this Fire, like you say, you
market, you promote, and we runthe streets with something you
stank, what would you say?
08.
The house Like still to thefront.

Speaker 5 (50:26):
Yeah, now.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
So a lot of people could look you up, see your work
and things like that.
First, I want you to name someof the Philadelphia artists that
you worked with and that youreally because the YRC like the
wire one, that's like the, yousizzle it, but it made it hot

(50:50):
which one you did the movie on.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
No, it was just we were in the streets, the movie
that was the movie.
Yeah, we were just.

Speaker 4 (50:58):
We were on the streets the movie though

Speaker 1 (51:00):
right, and that was that's.
That's so.
How many parts of the wire isit?

Speaker 4 (51:05):
It's eight of them.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
And that's that's what I'm saying, bro.
There's no reason we 40, 50minutes in an interview and we
get that?

Speaker 4 (51:15):
We get three, four or five.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
That's what I kept trying Because, like I said,
like a lot of people will hear aname right Like alright, let's
take, for example, meek MeekMill.
Right, when people pull up MeekHistory, how many of your vids
in there?

Speaker 5 (51:34):
Right right.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
You ain't need to say that Like people not gonna know
that if they're not from Philly, I can tell you don't like to
talk about the past a lot yeahand it's still a lot of walking.

Speaker 3 (51:46):
It is.

Speaker 5 (51:47):
It's about it, he go.
I feel like I feel like my mindand my brain be on when I'm
doing now.
You some say like the past isthe only thing I can learn from
the past was how to move forward.
You some say so even if aperson don't know, just let them
go search it, because I'mtrying to create what I created

(52:09):
back then now, but somethingbigger and better.
Like I'm trying to figure outall these people was on this and
that.
Let me figure out what's gonnabe next.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
All right, let me get in my bag real quick, then Look
for y'all who don't know.

Speaker 4 (52:25):
Nah, it's cool For y'all who don't know, right the
dude sitting on this couch righthere.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
I don't even think it's a Philly rapper Like.
If they, if they was doingsomething for the last Two
decades, from 2008 till All theway to now I don't even think
it's no Philly Like.
I will bet money on this.
Thanks that it is not a Phillyrapper.
You can look at the history.
Look at certain vids.
Look at who seen this on thereand who seen this on cuz.

(52:58):
One of our prominent starsright now, sierra wet I didn't
even see her at all or heard ofher at all until Inc.
I was from Uptown, so that'sdifferent for me.
Tierra Whack, I ain't gonna lie, I think one of the most

(53:18):
popular.
What was that Ad?
There's a lot of people free ad, but this is what I wanted to
say, right?

Speaker 3 (53:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Ab had a great, yeah, yeah, yeah,
great Like they Ape Gang.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
Ape Gang was super.
They was heroes to us up top.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
We was, we was banging, we running streets.
Jones, you had a great Ape GangJones.
Yeah, he did.
We just had a great game, butlook, this is.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
This is what I want to say to you, right?
I really commend you for that,because the whole interview I
was really trying to get you tospeak on certain things and you
kept coming.
I asked you about some of thepast.
You would tell people whatyou're doing for and not commend
you for that.

Speaker 5 (53:56):
But I'm not in the past stuck in the past person.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
I just wanted the people to know, because it's
people my age that's not tappedin, like me, and they'd be like,
who is this skinny?
And plus the streets, do theinterview.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
Plus, we have to let them know that we have people.
There's just.
We have people that's at work,that's listening to the show and
I told him your career isillustrious Everybody in the
rundown.
Everybody's not watching theshow.
They're listening Also.
Yeah, so he's not watching theshow.
They're listening also.

Speaker 5 (54:25):
yeah, so he have to actually speak, no so.
So he asked me before, like, isthere any questions he can't
ask?
He can ask whatever questions.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
This is what I want to do, though, like before we
continue, make sure you share,like.
Subscribe comment if you don't.
You're a hater.
Wow, yeah, but this is what Iwant to do, though.
I want to actually just wrap upall the wires in one right now,
like let's talk about them.
Let's do that how you go aboutcoordinating your your process.

Speaker 5 (54:51):
What's your process of doing a, a wire dvd you know,
like back then it was just likeit was crazy I would how I even
found people you see what I'msaying, like I think about it
like it's crazy, because weain't had social media, so it
wasn't like people were justpopping up.

Speaker 3 (55:08):
That's why I'm interested in high school.
That's why we intrigued aboutthat part.

Speaker 5 (55:13):
So I started figuring , because I used to hear rumors
like yo ain't changed a gamebecause he's charging people now
, right.
So my thing was so you wascharging niggas Listen.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
I looked at everything as a business, bro.

Speaker 5 (55:27):
No no, bro.
So that's what Probably like$50 a set.

Speaker 3 (55:30):
Yeah, that's small, but you know, but then coming
off of God having a camera.

Speaker 5 (55:34):
I have to be able to create this DVD still, I got to
still go back and edit it, paysomebody to do the graphics and
pay somebody to do this and this, that and the third.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
I can't keep coming out my pockets and then.
So you was an editor in thebeginning.
I wasn't no shout out the carwith the camera.
That was, that was there.
We go shout out my boy heworked man it was only a few
people in the city that had thatcamera on lock man yeah, and
shout out to danny yeah, he's adesigner, but on lock man yeah.

Speaker 5 (56:09):
And shout out to danny yeah, it's a designer.
But I was everywhere wherethings was going down.
There, bro, like people alwaysask how I met cosmic kev, I met
cosmic kev to shout out thegilly.
He pointed cosmic kev to mebecause I was everywhere.
I gave the actual we run thestreets name the stamp.
That's when I got a stamp on myhand, I was everywhere.
I decided to stop working.
This was my full-time job, soI'm saying so.
I had to be everywhere to getfootage.

(56:32):
So once I got the footage, itwas like now I'm looking through
or I might be at the situationand might know this is going to
be one of those persons yeah,you know what I'm saying.
So when when I figured somebodyelse gonna look at it, they
gotta be able to catch thatperson in five seconds.
So I was putting the whoever isthe hottest to me.
That's why I say it was myvision.

(56:52):
So whoever was the hottest tome, they was going on front they
was going next and next,because I had to make sure I
kept their attention right,right, right look bro, I know I
kept people attention when I letpeople sit in a movie theater
with over 400 people for threehours.
I put a rap DVD in a movietheater, you see what I'm saying
.
So it was more about me justknowing how to keep somebody's

(57:15):
attention.

Speaker 1 (57:16):
See, and that's the type of stuff right there,
that's just it.
You see how you just said thatand just act like that's the
type stuff right there that I bewanting them to hear.
We want them to know you put arap DVD in the movie there.
Who else did that?

Speaker 3 (57:32):
How was that even possible?

Speaker 5 (57:33):
I don't even think nobody else did it across the
world yeah how was that evenpossible?
No, not across the world, but Ionly I didn't just do that once
, I did it three times and sowithout every time she's just
saying like it was the first,the first John, right?
I remember the first John rightcover look.
The first time I'm pinning a rapmovie in the movie theaters,

(57:53):
right.
I was in a Cuz.
Look, I found out who, who hadconnects with them, with the
movie people and all that right.
And at the crib I had aprojector.
That's what people ain't knowabout projectors, you feel me.
So I had the crib looking likea movie theater already so I
guess he just felt like yo thisjoint need to be in the movie

(58:13):
theater that was inspiring andhe said yo, I'm gonna make some
calls and browse.
It is positive that.
So we had to sell out 400tickets right four dubs.
So I moved down florida for aminute.
Right being that, I moved downthere, I'm thinking yo, I'm, I'm
me, I'm gonna put these dronesonline.
They gonna buy them offline.
But no, people wasn't on itthey wasn't trying buying, but

(58:37):
what's?
crazy is I had three days tosell these tickets, bro.
When I came back to philly, Ijumped in the Audi, drove up 18
hours.
I sold all four of them ticketswithin three days, bro, because
I was meeting people personally.
That's how I knew I was loved.
Yeah, like being able to sellover 300 tickets in three days,
bro, that's fire, bro.
It's things that, and that'swhy every time y'all ask me

(59:00):
stuff, I done, did so much.
I don't even like you know howthey say people be stressed and
all that.
Yeah, I can't even write itdown because my brain won't work
to remember.
It just had me just onsomething about what I'm going
to do next, because a lot ofpeople was already like I think
I've come across a lot of peoplethat have been like yo, it
ain't about what you've beendoing, it's about what you're

(59:22):
doing now.

Speaker 1 (59:24):
Hey, you're not an artist.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
No, also, and you're not all right.
Also, you gotta remind theseniggas, though sometimes, yeah,
I would just I'm again I'mgetting.

Speaker 5 (59:33):
Look, if you, if you see me on working on youtube and
tiktok and all that, that meanI'm getting to the point.
And so now I'm going to takeall my footage and disappear
them, jones, on all theseplatforms and just tag my name
on it and I don't care what'sgonna happen, I'm just giving it
to the world.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
You ever think about getting an IP lawyer, I don't
even know yeah.

Speaker 5 (59:56):
So let me so so, so, so that's why I'm up here.

Speaker 2 (59:59):
Come again, I so so pretty much intellectual
property.
You pretty much want to searchthe website.
Everything that got we run thestreets logo on it come on, we
run the streets and they gotpaid off of it should come home
I need mine yeah that shouldcome home.
You content, you know what I'msaying.
My fault, excuse my language,but you're a content boy and you

(01:00:20):
should be able to distribute it.
You should be able to get yourintellectual property that's
sold or made money off of, andyou should be able to get some
type of revenue off of that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
You know, I appreciate that, bro and I want,
I want to go off this and saythis right Core just dropped
some game, some real game.
I hear this every night, but I'mgoing to keep it real, like I'm
like.
I'm going to keep it real, likeI want to sit here and really,
really like give you yourflowers, and I want to say
something with that, becauseyou're not only a pioneer of it,

(01:00:57):
you did it different thaneverybody.
It was in a different time.
When it come to rapping off thetop, people wasn't even as
hyped to do it, people wasn'thopping out there.
That was around the time LilWayne had Lollipop out and Drake
was coming out, like everybodywas trying to do something
different and you, straight,still came with the rawness of

(01:01:20):
hip-hop and everything with thePhilly sound and the Philly you
know wave and did what you did.
So, from the rip, I got tocommend you for that.
But what I also want to commendyou for is a lot of these
people that we be having on hereor on other podcasts and this
is this is just being real, it'snot coming at nobody or nothing
a lot of people we have up herewho talk about the ever that we

(01:01:44):
talk about now, a bit before Imean a lot of bit before, a
little bit after only can talkabout the past Because they
don't have nothing planned now.

Speaker 3 (01:01:55):
Yeah or nothing going on.

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
Or nothing going on, or the last time they had
something going on was 2015-14.
But their legacy just so big,it's just like people want them
up here and we pay our respectsalso.
But the simple fact that youeven kind of started a little
late, for real, you feel me, youeven kind of when, when it come

(01:02:19):
to your field, you kind ofstarted a little late and you
can touch on things that you'redoing now and you can touch on
people that we actually could,because I'm gonna keep it a bean
when you think of some people.
You don't know it was just advd.
You remember we run the streetsbecause of however you did it,

(01:02:41):
you're not really saying I seenthis person on too raw and no
eight because it wasn't.
No, too raw, no, wait, get.
I'm trying to say so.
It's like that's why, with thewire thing and the movies and
everything like, if y'allhearing this or watching this
man ain't just a type of guywhere he wants y'all to see the

(01:03:02):
work, he wants y'all to knowwhat's up, but he wants y'all to
see it, please go tap in to werunning streets, man, founder,
right here and it's going tomajor so I asked you how you do
your process right, how you goabout picking the artist.

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
You're going to pick it in front of the cover.

Speaker 5 (01:03:22):
Yeah, it was always about who was that one, though,
bro who was really doing?

Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
Thank you bro.

Speaker 5 (01:03:35):
It was about who was just out working.
Everybody.
During those times we was withthe people that was out working,
so it was only right to pickthose people to showcase our
city.
You some saying, because thewire wasn't just in philly, it

(01:03:55):
was everywhere.
It got me, so it got.
The wire was so big that when Ifirst moved down further I
ain't no soul bro.
And somebody hit me oninstagram.
It was like yo, I just saw youat the gas station, I can't
believe you down in Tampa.
I was like, yeah, he offered meto come to the studio, he gave
me the keys and that's what Idid, that song, because that's
what I was saying, like I ain'thad nothing to do in that jungle

(01:04:17):
.
Yeah, I mean.
So that's what I did and allthey can know.
Right, it's crazy, but my brainreally takes really helped me
in life and I wanted to stop himwhen he was talking about
something and I was like, umwith me, I don't.
The past is like I was sayingin the beginning it's nothing

(01:04:41):
about the past, whatever anybodywant to talk about, but it's
how far you really gonna take itit.
I already got a plan for thisy'all.
So I don't like even just engagein an activity.
Like the instant social mediabites off an activity, right,
but you got to think about it.

(01:05:01):
I've been doing all I've beendoing with positivity the whole
time I can.
If I want to pray the politicrules, I can pray the politic
rules because all I want to dois just help others get to where
they need to be.
I'm going to take mine as anafterlife bro.
I don't care if nobody nevergive me my, whatever somebody

(01:05:24):
else thinks somebody's supposedto give me, as long as I'm still
doing what I got to do takecare of my family.
I'm good because I've beenwatching Damon Dash for a minute
right and he said somethingthat the way I always been
thinking when you think I donebeen around is where's the?
When you famous?
All that little cute time iscut.
You're never going to enjoyyour life again.

Speaker 3 (01:05:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:05:45):
Because everywhere you go, somebody like this
Making you uncomfortable.
That was then.
We live in an era now whereit's oh man.
So now you got to please allyour friends that's around you,
because you don't want none ofthem to spill the beans about
nothing.
So you're doing stuff that youreally probably don't even need
to be doing.

Speaker 4 (01:06:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:06:06):
So it was like I used to peep a lot of little
different things.
So, as I was moving and I'mlike, all right, I'm going to
let them be cool, though I ain'tgot to say nothing, right?
You see what I'm saying, mm-hmm, I'm going to continue to just
do me and just really try andjust get this young.
My only goal was if you was hotand you gave me the feel when I

(01:06:30):
, when I recorded you, what'swrong when I I'm, especially
when, uh, social media didn'tcome about when it was to post
it yeah it was like all right.
But I felt good when somebodysaid yo that person, hot, I
can't do nothing else, I can'trap, I can't.
Only thing I can do is pick upa camera and show kyle, he ended
his joint up right but withthrough all that.
So I can't talk about the padsbecause nothing was bad.

(01:06:52):
Yeah, everything in the padsgot me to where I'm in just
period.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
Yeah, I mean like, and you you used to play the
background a lot, though rightlike you was never like the boy
in the camera because I wasthrowing my thing off the camera
, bro the camera, because I wasthrowing my thing off the camera
, bro.

Speaker 5 (01:07:13):
If you ask any of my homies that was around, I was
getting a lot of young means.
So I and when y'all asked meabout when I stepped off the
porch right man, I stepped offthe porch when people that used
to be like my young boy the mostokay but so it got to the point
where it was like it didn'teven matter no more, and we run
the streets.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
I thought it was two of y'all.

Speaker 5 (01:07:34):
So it was two.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
It still is two, right, right, right, right it.
Just you know that's Gotti,right yeah?
Shout out to my man Gotti.

Speaker 5 (01:07:41):
Shout out Gotti yeah we got a podcast called you know
what the streets been missing?

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
Shout out Gotti man, Make sure y'all tune in.

Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
Come holla at us Gotti.

Speaker 5 (01:07:54):
I just feel like even when I started doing a come up
show, the come up show wasn'twhat the come up show was since
I got there because of thatvision, I was going to ask you
about that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:04):
You basically pivoted .

Speaker 5 (01:08:12):
That was me, that cassidy john was me, yeah, so
look little snoop jump.
Yeah, you saw a little snoopjump when he first came to
philly.

Speaker 3 (01:08:19):
Yeah, that was me, so you pivoted in h and cheek.

Speaker 5 (01:08:23):
Yeah, that was me, you pivoted you pivoted santos,
how you, how yeah, that was me.
You had'm seeing bro youpivoting you pivoting Santos.
Yeah, that was me.

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
You had talked about me and.
Kev Like after you meet and Kevyou develop in a relationship
with him.

Speaker 5 (01:08:33):
See, we ain't even been talking.
It's so much.
No, that's what I was sayingyeah, that's what I've been
trying to do.

Speaker 3 (01:08:49):
So I'm I said do it all in one.
That's why I said bunch thatshit together, wrap it up in one
little, show it in there.

Speaker 5 (01:08:53):
It's like this I ain't come here With a certain
topic that I wanted.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
I'ma come here and just talk about all the
motherfuckers that I ain'tlooking for.
There's no way you can't Causeyou cover too much floor.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
It's called we Run the Streets.
I had my.
You can't because you cover toomuch floor.
We talking about running on thestreets.
It's called we Run the Streets.
Yeah, you done, did so much.

Speaker 5 (01:09:13):
Look, I had my own award show, hip hop award show.
That was sold out.
That was at the Kids WickTheater out in the county.
And that's what I be sayingwhen I be talking.
I be forgetting about so muchbecause it's too much.
I was thinking about doingthose.
Look this right.
Y'all the first piece.
People get it because it's thehottest podcast in the world

(01:09:33):
right, oh yeah, it was surreal.
Right, look my little nephew.
He messing me up on my moviebecause my little nephew
supposed to have been me andit's all started with a camera
movie.
Okay, in the movie he was goingto play me.
Everybody that I met on thecome up like you know, like how
I was dealing with meek dealingwith tiara.

(01:09:55):
Yeah, dealing with this person,dealing with santos, dealing
with this person, this person,this person.
I was gonna have differentpeople play their character,
okay, but I was gonna turn intoa tv series man.
I'm still gonna do it the sameway.
I'm still gonna do it with thewe want the streets tv series.
Everybody that I dealt withlike, just like the behind the
scenes of my story.
This is going to be like mystory.
I'm telling my story.
What was going on during thesetimes?

(01:10:15):
I was in the studio with corey.
I was in the studio with Iremember when I first time I met
corey right, he was shy.
I went up there and met withhim.
He I I think he was camera shy,right, he's insane.
And then the next time we gottogether, we got together down
back here studio shout out therug.
Then a 444 building rocky.

(01:10:36):
He killed that joint so heavy.
I said yo, gill gill came inthere and then I go to the crib.
Cosmo cal call me.
He, uh, he like oh, my god,coming to the crib.
So he comes to the crib.
Cosmic Kev called me.
He like yo, I'm about to cometo the crib.
So he comes to the crib.
And Kory had a little freestylejoint and I was just playing it

(01:10:58):
for me.
You know what?

Speaker 4 (01:10:59):
I mean.

Speaker 5 (01:11:00):
So he in the crib.
I'm just playing music, kev,here, but he ain't say nothing.
He got to the crib.
He like yo call Kory to thecrib.
Yeah, you'll call core core,core, Call core.
Yeah, yo, yo yo homie one badone Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:11:14):
Well, who does?

Speaker 5 (01:11:15):
I know I'm not one batter.
Yeah, next week, or was onlycome up, show Suzanne, like see
how the shaven like this, theshit that we talk about this is.
But I'll be.

Speaker 3 (01:11:28):
Good, you just gotta you just gotta ask me, you just
gotta, you just gotta talk.
Yeah, because it's just like weain't gonna ever be able to hit
the points, because Where's thewhy the people should be
following me?

Speaker 5 (01:11:38):
right, who I really, who I really pushed to the limit
, and all that type of shit.
Right, mm-hmm X, you eggs youknow what.

Speaker 3 (01:11:45):
All right, so why?
What was it about santos?

Speaker 5 (01:11:49):
toast and chill through my body when I freeze
money.
Bro, I knew I was doingbusiness with tools.
Right, shout out to my man grit.
Right toast, hit me.
No, his homie grit used toalways catch me at black and
nobel.
Right yo, my man santo'shottest, my man santo's hotter.
But everybody used to alwayscatch me up at the back of the
new bell.
Right Yo, my man Santos, howyou doing, my man Santos, how

(01:12:09):
you doing.
But everybody used to walk upto me and say all this.
So it was like you know what Imean.
The only way you really want totalk to me is if it's business.
If it's business, I don't carehow we doing business, we going,
you know what I mean.
So Toast kept.
You're like yo, we going tomeet up.
I'm like, all right, bet, butTose, something always happens

(01:12:30):
that we never meet up.
I guess he's spending money.
Because you know Tose was beingTose.
You know what?

Speaker 4 (01:12:35):
I mean.

Speaker 5 (01:12:35):
So he told me this story Like no, bro, that money I
had yesterday that joint gone.
So this one morning he calledme.
Like 8 in the morning he calledme.
I'm just thinking I'm going torecord another little homie.
Yeah, bro, this nigga rap, thatjoint's just.
I said yo, I got to tellsomebody about this.

(01:12:57):
I said yo keep rapping, startedrapping for nine minutes,
pulled him out to the side.
This is when I first met Tierra.
I said yo listen, I got alittle girl named Tierra, y'all
going to be the next up.
We did a freestyle on my manRespect the Hustle BB Day.
We did a freestyle right.
I made Rant Santos and DesireeRant.

(01:13:23):
I was already fucking with Kev,messing with Kev.
Right, kev saw the freestyle.
He said yo Ant bring him up.
It wasn't like they were just myhomies, so he just brung them
up and I was working it Causeduring that time that's what
people used to think it wasbecause somebody was cool with
me.
They was able to just come upon the come up show.
Kev would actually see peopleoff of my page.
That's the thing about when youfollowing people and who they

(01:13:45):
following, because they can seeyou on a page and never know and
if they like you, they're goingto reach out to you or whatever
the case is so you can't reachout and say, yo, let's get them
on the come up show.
Right, got them on a come-upshow and that was the best
come-up show I've ever been apart of and that's what made
history.
Like we, we got to the pointwhere me and santa was had to
deal with dj collins.
Off that job, man you catch DJKhaled off that joint man.

Speaker 3 (01:14:11):
You catch a lot of flack dealing with Santos, which
means no, no, no, everybodyain't think Santos was hot.

Speaker 1 (01:14:15):
Yeah, and I remember that Santos and DJ Khaled.

Speaker 2 (01:14:19):
No, who were everybody.
Yeah, because the city what youmean by that, though I always
thought Santos was hot, yeah metoo, no it was his people I
never Like me too no it's people.

Speaker 3 (01:14:28):
It's people that I've seen.

Speaker 5 (01:14:30):
Me personally.
You can't really never see withanother person's thing, because
at the end of the day, certainpeople got music that only
people that's going to feel itis the people that go through it
.
So that's like if somebodyplaying the guitar and singing a
song, you probably not going tounderstand it because you don't
listen to that type of music.
But if that person sing thatsong on a beat that you like and

(01:14:53):
that can relate to you.
It's going to be different, soeverybody don't got to catch
everybody's eye.
I done really worked with somany different people that now I
want to just work with popartists.

Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
You know what pop artists do?

Speaker 5 (01:15:05):
Shout out to Santos man, keep on rapping, yeah I
want to like like right nowright, I got a new single about
to come out.
I asked my, I asked my engineerright yo.
I said yo, you remember thissearch and search song?
He said yeah.
I said yo, I want to remakethis type of song.
So I'm thinking he gonnaactually make the beat sound

(01:15:26):
like the beat.
Right, he came with somethingcrazy and uh something different
way, different.
So now is where, to the pointwhere as though we can't even
get sued for the beat, he tookout every little part of the
beat that you would think.
But this the type of personI've been needing to meet all my
life, bro, because what?

(01:15:47):
What I did was I took the beatthat he gave me.
We had no lyrics to it.
I'm like yo, we gotta find outwho we gonna get on this, john,
I mean, because you know I'mlike I want to be the person
that's going to pick yo.
I need you to get on this song,you to get on this song, you to
get on the song.
I'm gonna let everybody elsejake collier you some saying so
I'm gonna just make popularmusic.
So I felt like the person thatwas gonna make this hook had to

(01:16:08):
make it popular but, I went home.
I'm on a laptop all night, Icome up with the hook.
I hear this, the actual song.
Right, yeah, I hear the actualsong and I typed it in on
youtube, but the person they hadacapella, it was somebody that
was doing a cover-up, so I tookhis cover-up and chopped that up
and did what I did.
So when y'all hear this, y'alljust remember like I really

(01:16:30):
produce, make songs from andthat's what I was saying about
that, that monthly situation,yeah yeah, come spend a month
with me for um 30 days, twohours per week, four weeks.
In a month, we're going to tellyou what to do, how to do.
Once you get done a song, we'regoing to help you put it on a
different platform artistdevelopment, exactly so.
That's why I don't really liketo talk about the past.

(01:16:52):
I want people to be able to sayyou, you did it then, you can
still do it now, but I'm gonnaput it on a different scale.
Now I want to be a label outhere, bro, we're right a lot of
people say philly, don't havelabels.
We don't got no.
You know what people be saying.
We don't got no platforms, wedon't got this all right.
So creating what I do is I lookat what everybody complain
about I'm creating and I try togo go dip in that because,

(01:17:17):
everybody need what I'm going tobring to the table popular.
I'ma let.
Now that I know about tick,tock and all that, I'm gonna
just take out my whole my wholehard cons and just keep loading
them on YouTube shorts.

Speaker 4 (01:17:31):
Clip here, clip here.
Clip here, clip here.

Speaker 5 (01:17:33):
Exactly, and I'm just going to let them rip.

Speaker 3 (01:17:35):
I'm not even going to worry about them because I got
so many drones.

Speaker 5 (01:17:37):
Look right, I was transferring my files last night
, right.

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
That's all you got to do, sir.

Speaker 5 (01:17:46):
I got over 5,000 little clips of little different
people.
Like you know how y'all look onthe computer and see all the
clips.
But the folder would say acertain amount of numbers.
It'd be a discovery for me.
Sometimes I gotta look throughall this Because I want to put

(01:18:07):
all this on the joint, so it'slike I want to hire somebody to
do this.

Speaker 3 (01:18:10):
That's a lot of clips , but it's all real content.

Speaker 5 (01:18:14):
It's like when Meek was Willie on the bike.
It was like when Toast met DMXor something.
It's like when I met DMX whenToast first met Nas Real moments
out there.

Speaker 3 (01:18:26):

Speaker 5 (01:18:30):
Toast first met Nas.
Real moments, real moments,real moments of hip hop.
Toast met first Nas.
Rick Ross was talking to Tierraon the phone and telling her yo
, you about to be the one, youabout to sign the dream shit,
listen, man, what is you waitingon Damn?

Speaker 4 (01:18:37):
bro we got all that footage, bro, are you?

Speaker 2 (01:18:40):
waiting on the way to monetize this shit.

Speaker 5 (01:18:43):
That's what I'm doing now, right, right, I'm making
sure that's why my man got itright right they reached back
out to me.
Right, that's when we came upwith the with the um where the
streets been missing podcast,because now we're going to talk
about all these moments, okay,how we felt during these moments
.
We're going to talk when thesecameras go, so it's like it's
like we could tell our story onanother podcast, but we also

(01:19:06):
could tell our story on our ownpodcast.
No doubt, no question.

Speaker 1 (01:19:09):
No question, you got something, man you got something
, and I'm not going to lie, bro,and I ain't going to hold you
Like y'all really don'tunderstand what we got here, man
.
But I'm going to say thisthough the NH and Cheap Raw, we
run the streets.

Speaker 5 (01:19:30):
Which you wanna talk about.
Some come up Cosmic Cubsmoments bro.
You wanna talk about YoungSavage going in 17 minutes
straight?
You know Young Savage was aboutto get signed to DJ Khaled.
I know DJ Khaled said look.
Dj Khaled said after Meek gotsigned with Ross, right, I'm
gonna have Khaled come down andeverything.
Savage just burned the come-upshow down.

(01:19:53):
He asked me and Kev, he said yo, who's next man?
I've been hearing about thiskid, young Savage man, I don't
want to miss no more Meek Mills.
So these is the type of stuff Ihad in control of.
You see what I'm saying, that'swhy look?

Speaker 1 (01:20:08):
and you, you see how you just connected me saying
come up, show the young savagein the net.

Speaker 5 (01:20:15):
so that's, that's, that's why lane bane was on that
drone for 16 minutes straightand nation and nation chief raw
was on that drone, ar ad was onthat drone.
Santos did that drone six timesmeek.

Speaker 1 (01:20:26):
Did that joint like four to five times on that joint
and before we go into fashionright, I want to say this you,
tapped him with Kiss.

Speaker 5 (01:20:36):
Kiss, kiss telling that crazy story on that joint.
Yeah, that was crazy.
Shout out to Kiss.
He was just down here lastnight, man.

Speaker 1 (01:20:42):
Man, that was crazy.
Yeah, yeah, that was fire whoyou want to talk about bro, I
can talk about them all.

Speaker 5 (01:20:48):
There's too many stories yeah there's too many.

Speaker 2 (01:20:51):
So look.
So if I start Bubbling up, one.

Speaker 4 (01:20:53):
But, if I start talking like that.

Speaker 5 (01:20:55):
right, if I start talking like the way they want
you to talk, you won't be ableto get the money that you want
them to make, because, at theend of the day, my goal is to
really create general wealthperiod.
So I'm gonna figure out the wayto be behind the service.
So, if all the bullshit iscoming to the service, all I'm
doing is the actual service, thesame thing these labels is

(01:21:17):
doing.
When y'all getting signed withthem they probably just got a
bigger bag because it's likelabels, it's closed.
They wanna say, oh, I'm signedto a certain person.
They don't know that they stillgot work to do.
They don't know that when theyget signed, your homies gonna
still think you getting money.
So now that you ain't producing, now your life really gonna get

(01:21:37):
hard.

Speaker 4 (01:21:38):

Speaker 5 (01:21:40):
So my thing is like I had mentioned, dame Dash, right
, and you know people gotwhatever they need to say about
him.
But I'll be hearing somethinghe'd be saying and I'm like I
can relate.
I can relate to that.
The reason why I can relate tothat?
Because he said now he get tolive and raise his kids.
Before that his world washectic.
You see what I'm saying, likeif you never will understand, if

(01:22:02):
you never go through it.
I took off for five years.
I just had a son my daughter 20.
I just had a son.
He's daughter's 20.
I just had a son.
He's seven now, right.
So within the time he was bornto the time that he's now, I was
doing a lot of behind the workyou know situations building
video games.
I had my own Uber-type deliveryapp before they did.

Speaker 2 (01:22:23):
I just ain't had the money to put it out there in the
world like that and this partof the show right here is part
is brought to you by cb exotics.
Got my guy over here rolling up, you know.
I mean, make sure you go getsome z cb exotic when you're in
new york, you know what I mean,I ain't gonna lie man I ain't
gonna hold you.

Speaker 1 (01:22:44):
We gonna have to.
We gonna have to do it.
Let's, let's get in.
Before before we get into it.
Before we get into it, I justwant a one more question.

Speaker 5 (01:23:02):
What's that as?

Speaker 1 (01:23:02):
we go and have to is gonna have to probably be like a
behind the scenes.

Speaker 2 (01:23:07):
No, I'm going to just talk to him.
We're going to talk.
It ain't going to come out.

Speaker 5 (01:23:11):
That's my guy, so whatever he want to talk, and
like I, told y'all when I firstmet y'all and I gave y'all y'all
flowers like I like y'allchemistry, so I like what y'all
got going on.

Speaker 1 (01:23:29):
So if there's any type of business that we can do
to make this work all over, yeah, I'm with it, bro.
So I want to ask you onequestion, because Philly, one
thing about Philly we got a lotof the same questions.
You feel what I'm saying andthat's why everybody content be
sounding alike sometimes andthings like that.
So I want to ask you a question, meek out of it what artist you

(01:23:50):
work with from philly,musically, who?
Who got the best career besidesme?

Speaker 5 (01:23:56):
tiara weck, mm-hmm.
Tiara, yeah, because I saw whatshe was doing back then.
I used to tell her she wasgoing to be the one already.
You know what I'm saying, butI'm gonna tell you how I guess,
because people don't see me withher and all that it's here is
still text and talk about untilthere's a and um.

(01:24:17):
It's to the point when it'slike I didn't grow up in the era
where you, you know, I meansomebody say something to you,
gotta post it you say like, butpeople be one, a validation from
other people to you see whatI'm saying.
But people be wanting validationfrom other people to say they
cool, I already know I'm coolbro.

Speaker 1 (01:24:33):
I've definitely heard of her from you.

Speaker 2 (01:24:35):
And that goes back to the point where I was talking
about you being in the studio,around everybody, and you know
when you're around, your workethnic.
It's not like you're going topost it all day I'm around this
every day.

Speaker 5 (01:24:47):
This is regular and just it.
Just I work with a lot ofpeople.
You some say I'm going to berocked in my he did my single.
Uh, she's so bad, you know.
I mean shout out to you, knowthat.
And that's when rock just wasgetting in the joint.
Like I made that connectionhappen on the.
On what kind of the cover I'mgetting on the come up show yeah
, all right man yo, that's whatI was saying.

(01:25:09):
Like the people that I work withand that was that was like that
I just made that shit work.
What's your plans?

Speaker 2 (01:25:16):
forward though, like right now, like what we run the
streets.

Speaker 5 (01:25:20):
My plans is to become a label you see what I'm saying
.
Like a label where, as though,all artists across the world can
say yo, I need that brandbehind me.

Speaker 3 (01:25:29):
Period we running Streets Label.

Speaker 5 (01:25:32):
Yes, because we do everything, from printing the
clothes to marketing, promotion,to making business cards.

Speaker 2 (01:25:38):
So you ready to go full throttle again behind these
artists.

Speaker 5 (01:25:42):
No, I'm going full throttle behind me.

Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
No, I'm saying like you gotta sign the artist you
gotta sign the artist right, saythey come to the label, right,
like they want that brand behindthem, meaning you gotta go full
throttle behind the artist.

Speaker 5 (01:25:56):
Oh yeah, any product that I work with period, no
matter if it's an artist, ifit's somebody wanna do pictures,
I go full throttle withanything that I do business with
period.
Okay, so it like so.
This is what.
I'm not going to go forth withanything that I do business with
period.
Okay, so this is what I'mcreating.
Yeah, like we just had likethree people sign up and I've
been in the studio working withan artist.

(01:26:17):
I've been working in the studioworking with Ambitious I've been
in the studio working with is afemale name.

Speaker 2 (01:26:21):
I was in the studio with him.

Speaker 5 (01:26:22):
He, nice Like, is a female name.
Kitty Star Right is a femalename Kitty, kitty, kitty, star
Star Kitty.
Check out she on my page, bro.

Speaker 2 (01:26:35):
He ain't talking to me, he talking to y'all.

Speaker 5 (01:26:37):
Make sure we all check her out and the reason why
I want y'all to check her out,because I want y'all to see what
this type of package bringy'all, because me and my
producer, we in there actuallyworking with her this, like she
ain't been in the she, she justbecame a rapper.

Speaker 2 (01:26:54):
All right, let me ask this one question, yo, before
we done.
I'm not my fault, it is toomuch bro, but look, because we,
we, we, we probably like an hourand a half man, I know, and I
don't even mean it.
I'm just talking to you how you, how you even get connected to
Mark Madness.
How that happen.

Speaker 5 (01:27:15):
My little cousin Shout out to my little cousins
Hov and Lawrence.
They was from down SouthernStreet.
Oh, all right, they was fromdown Southern Street, so I think
Mark used to just see usbecause we used to just be
everywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:27:27):
Right.

Speaker 5 (01:27:27):
Like we was at some base much more vicious.
You know what I?

Speaker 2 (01:27:29):
mean.
So let's talk about some of thethings you and Mark Madden just
put together.

Speaker 5 (01:27:33):
Me and Dunny Big Face , Dunny Right.
Y'all know who Dunny is right.

Speaker 2 (01:27:38):
Niggas know who Dunny is.

Speaker 5 (01:27:39):
Hold on, I wanted to get to this part.

Speaker 2 (01:27:41):
Hold on, you got to cook.

Speaker 5 (01:27:44):
That's why I'm saying like it's that down beat.
How did y'all put that together?
Though, let's go.
Mark just said Ant, you need tobe with me.

Speaker 4 (01:27:54):
Uh-huh.

Speaker 5 (01:27:57):
And he was like yo, you and Kyle need to be with me,
man, we can all do somethingtogether.
That's when we got.
We had a building.

Speaker 2 (01:28:01):
I remember Kyle was with y'all.
Y'all was Across the streetfrom the casino Before it was a
casino.

Speaker 5 (01:28:10):
Exactly, and we was looking at Delaware Ave looking
so lovely you know, what I mean.
Yeah, I used to pop up.
We had the studio on that joint, then we had the Waterview on
that joint.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And that's why I said, man,there's so many people that I
work with and you people that Iwork with, and you know, um, he

(01:28:31):
just believed in dunny and heand he and he put anything
behind dunny.

Speaker 2 (01:28:34):
I remember that when I was an engineer in philly
dunny.
I told let's go get daddy hisflowers.
Yo listen, right, I'm at work.

Speaker 5 (01:28:40):
Let me tell y'all something let me tell y'all
something real quick I tolddunny he was Drake before Drake
even dropped, because I heardhis music, I heard that he could
rap and I heard he could singand you make beats and you're an
engineer, bro, what the hell isyou doing?
But Dunny wanted to please thecool people.
That was my thing.

(01:29:01):
He wanted to please, like everyera of artists that I dealt
with.
Like I'm dealing with Tierraand dealing with Tierra, dealing
with tiara, she got Tyler thehood or the rap and shit, but
she don't know that.
She picked me on the backpackartist.
Oh, listen to this.
Oh, pick me on Tyler theCreator and all of us, the ocean
.
It's a different type of money.

(01:29:22):
Over here, over here, over heredifferent type of money.
So everything that I learned.
I just had to say I'm going totake something from it and get
to the next level with it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:38):
Let's get into these games, man, let's get into these
games.

Speaker 5 (01:29:42):
My bad, bro, I just be having so much, bro, you
really ain't even tell Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:29:48):
You and Mark did a lot though, bro, but it's cool,
we going to leave it at that man.

Speaker 5 (01:29:53):
Shout out Mark Madness, they probably got to
buy a book or something.
If I drop a book, like I said,that TV series.

Speaker 2 (01:30:00):
What was the connection with OBH though?
When they was down there withy'all.

Speaker 5 (01:30:05):
AR when we first started doing some of the things
out there with when I firststarted doing the rap dvds, um,
my man gotti, and shout out myman, gone, gone was, was gone,
was, uh, ar, overhead and goingwith goddie.
And I guess going was like yo,my young boy about to come home.

(01:30:26):
Brother, this I mean I needy'all to hear him.
Gotti was somewhere.
He heard him.
He said yo, he called me, likeyo, you got to listen to this
nigga, like Bing's back in here,you know, but Gotti always
hyping somebody up, yeah manShout out to Gotti.

(01:30:50):
But when I heard him he'd beselling that.

Speaker 3 (01:30:51):
He sold it because listen ar had a different type
of fro, but you could believeeverything he was saying.
Super believable.

Speaker 5 (01:30:54):
It was slow but it was believe it and it was like
very, you know, you know, Ibelieve I believe the ar, in the
beginning.
You know, um, you know healways tell people I um, I
pushed this first couplemixtapes, man.
Yeah, you know he tell people Ifunded it do, I guess to make
me look good.
But no, we both would have toput on a seat though, man.

Speaker 2 (01:31:10):
Speaker 1 1.5.

Speaker 5 (01:31:12):
Speaker 2.
Speaker 1 1.5.
Speaker 2.

Speaker 2 (01:31:14):
Speaker 1 1.5.
Speaker 2.
Speaker 1 1.5.

Speaker 3 (01:31:15):
Speaker 2.
Speaker 2.
Speaker 1 1.5.

Speaker 2 (01:31:18):
Speaker 2.
Speaker 2.

Speaker 4 (01:31:19):
Speaker 2.

Speaker 2 (01:31:23):
Speaker 1 1.5.
He gonna talk his work, shit.
It's a bunch of beginning ofthe career he ain't gonna get
into the stories.

Speaker 3 (01:31:27):
See what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (01:31:28):
I see, so that be different.

Speaker 3 (01:31:30):
Like, all right, you work with a person.
Cool, because that's just for aperson to do in them fields All
right, I'm doing this, yourapping.
Of course, at some point wegonna get together, but no, a
lot of these people, bro, it'sthe beginning of the careers.
Yeah, I'm saying, when you haveplatform, and that's powerful
when you have platform bro.

Speaker 5 (01:31:50):
It's not that I'm not going to get into, it's just
like I want people to rememberme after I leave this platform.
Yeah, no doubt, no question.
So if I came to a platform orany of my kind of platforms and
they only focus on certainthings, like you said, some
people come on a platform onlytalking about the past.
Right, so somebody might betalking, somebody might like

(01:32:11):
what they doing right then andthere, but during that time that
he was talking about the past,they probably messed up
something that's gonna containthem in the future.
Okay, so, saying like you all,you never burn your bridge.

Speaker 2 (01:32:22):
See my thing be to bring up the past one,
especially if it's not like ifyou ask me about it.

Speaker 5 (01:32:27):
That's what I'm saying, like if you ask me about
it, but I'll be having, so likeI won't just come out and say,
because I got so much yeah, andit's you, it's you.

Speaker 2 (01:32:35):
It's like I don't even look at myself the way
people look at me.
No, not like that.

Speaker 5 (01:32:39):
No, I'm talking about just just when, like when
people say like I nevercelebrated, none of them are
success all right, like instead,like instead of me right.

Speaker 2 (01:32:48):
If people come around me and say like something about
, oh yo, your folks is such andsuch, I'm not noticing that
because it's my folks.
Yeah, you get what I'm saying.
I'm with this guy every day.
I'm with him every other day orevery day, so I don't look at
it like that.
Rather, my cousin could be WillSmith.

Speaker 5 (01:33:06):
Look, I'm going to tell you a story about something
like that.
Right, I'm driving my promotruck.

Speaker 2 (01:33:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:33:14):
I had the we Run the Street promo truck on there.
I had Meek on there, Santos onthere.

Speaker 2 (01:33:19):
I remember that joint .

Speaker 5 (01:33:20):
And Tierra Whack.
On there I'm driving it.
You know, I'm still doing meMeek signed and everything.
I'm still throwing them geronavenue.
Yeah, I mean I pulled up to alittle condo that me and goddy
had.
I'm sitting there just waitingfor goddy to do something,
listening to me, uh, me makealbum and right he pull up on me
, knock on the window like damncuz, you still listening to my?

(01:33:42):
Yeah, I do this while I'maround this is what I do.
Period so when, when I do stufffor people, I work with people
and all that, this is what I do.
Period so when I do stuff forpeople, I work with people and
all that, this is what I do.
This is why I know.
I'm already blessed but I knowGod want to bless me bigger,
because it never was for me toreceive anything from nobody,
right?
That's just what I love to doJust moving around with that
camera, making other people lookgood.

Speaker 4 (01:34:03):
It's going to figure itself out.

Speaker 2 (01:34:05):
Yeah, I got one question, then we're going to
get into these games.
My fault, carey.

Speaker 1 (01:34:11):
We're going to get into these games Because.

Speaker 3 (01:34:12):
I know my man ready for these games.

Speaker 2 (01:34:13):
He's got one question oh, I don't know.
Oh, all right.
Just go straight to the gamesthen no, no, but I got another
question we ain't playing nogames, but the way you carry
yourself and the way you as aman like it's not, but it's more
like real private and that youdon't be on the camera.
I want to know if you have youbeen through something tragic or

(01:34:34):
like no, I never been throughnothing tragic or something like
that.

Speaker 5 (01:34:39):
Oh, good question like I've never been.
Like it's not that I'm private,you're saying like I'm just me
and how you get like that though.
Trusting people.

Speaker 2 (01:34:51):
Have you been betrayed?

Speaker 5 (01:34:52):
I'm betrayed by a lot of people.
All right, so that yourcharacter I don't, I don't, I
don't, I don't have to doanything.
You said, saying I'm I'm justbecause somebody might be
thinking is a betrayer, anothertype of way I'm being.
I'm being because my loyaltyfrom the beginning to anybody in
this world, you see, I'm sayinglike I never show none of my

(01:35:16):
weakness in my mom.
Bro, right, my mom tell youknow, be like he, like I guess
my uncle was like that, becausemy uncle, you're just gonna keep
going.
You see I'm.
I'm saying Like I said before,like-.

Speaker 2 (01:35:28):
Your uncle, somebody you looked up to, though.

Speaker 5 (01:35:31):
Yeah, because he just showed me a man don't cry.
You feel me Like at the end ofthe day when, if you do cry, you
still gotta pick your head up.
So just pick your head up fromthe roof.
And it's times where I probablyfelt some type of way about
something.
I could've went on Instagramand blah, blah, blah.
What's the point?

(01:35:52):
Nothing will come from it.

Speaker 3 (01:35:55):
It was never a point.

Speaker 2 (01:35:55):
You ain't gonna get nothing out of it, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:35:57):
And that's why I was saying I want to be remembered
of somebody when I lead it.
Y'all.
I don't want people to be like,oh, they only talk about that
certain thing.
You some saying I want you tolet you go follow young boy,
like now, like y'all know who,shaheen readers, I'm letting,
I'm letting last night right.

Speaker 3 (01:36:17):
He's somebody.

Speaker 5 (01:36:18):
You know what he told me at the man who had his
conversation.
He said yo, we gonna work, Ineed you, like gave me his
number and everything.
Now.
What I'm saying is people knowwho this person is.
They would know it only reallygoing to take me to meet or to
connect with one person.

(01:36:39):
That's in real range.
You see what I'm saying, liketo do what I need to do, period.

Speaker 2 (01:36:45):
I met that boy when he was actually bull double xl
and all that.

Speaker 5 (01:36:50):
I met him in six flags he always was a good
journalist, bull bro, bunch ofguys around him, you know.
I mean, yeah, they was, theywas walking, so it's not that I
I like to live in private, bro,because I just don't like with
instagram and all that.
I only I'm using instagram forbusiness.
I'm using all this shit forbusiness.
I'm not going to sit up hereand just put my personal life on

(01:37:11):
that joint Like for what yeah?
Like you see what I'm saying.
It's entertainment.
The entertainment y'all goingto get from me is somebody else
Marketing too.

Speaker 2 (01:37:17):
So what you think about the new guys like Raw G's
Kassonette who, like it's livestreamers?
What you think about the newway of content now, how you
could put people out there asartists and stuff?

Speaker 5 (01:37:31):
Let me understand when you say new way of content,
Because I be saying that peoplestreaming but all I see is them
talking.

Speaker 2 (01:37:37):
That's streaming All right, that's a new way of
content.

Speaker 5 (01:37:39):
That's the same thing as podcasts.
They just basically one-on-one.

Speaker 2 (01:37:42):
It's still content.
That's what.
I'm saying I ain't saying thatwrong with it, I'm just saying
like pick your brain a littlebit, because you really are a
constant creator, oh.

Speaker 5 (01:37:52):
I know that, that's why.
I see all my footage that's inthat drive is about to come out,
but I will let the people likethe young boy that she was, that
she was named because I heardhis name before and I mean
you're, all these I've beenhearing about a lot of people.
You some say but my thing iswhatever way they get any money,
let them get their money.

Speaker 2 (01:38:12):
Pretty much.
What I'm trying to say is whatdo you think about all these
brand new ways for people to beable to make money off of
content?

Speaker 5 (01:38:21):
Because I could take the content that I had back then
and put it on a platform theway they're doing it now.
And I don't got to work extrahard because I already put in
the work.

Speaker 3 (01:38:29):
Facts, that's a fact.
So, like I said, my catalogwith 5,000 plus jobs is already
created.

Speaker 5 (01:38:36):
You know, no disrespect to them, I'm saying
this respectfully, but mycontent is already created and
it's stuff that I know peoplewon't want to watch, because
these moments in life ofpeople's careers, like right now
, jayay-z if they come out withhis son about jay-z.
You're gonna want to see that.
Yeah, you see what I'm saying.
Like you know, one time I saidyo, meek, let's do a documentary
.
He said no, and hold on, holdthat, hold that joint, let me

(01:38:58):
get a little bigger.
All right, say no more, man,because all I'm gonna do is go
to the next person.
But I still got that footage.

Speaker 2 (01:39:10):
Never know when that documentary he might need some
of that footage.

Speaker 5 (01:39:13):
What I'm saying is get as big as you want to be.

Speaker 2 (01:39:15):
He might need some of that footage.
He already need it.

Speaker 5 (01:39:19):
Listen when I tell y'all I be talking to people bro
, you do need it.

Speaker 2 (01:39:23):
You see what?

Speaker 5 (01:39:23):
I'm saying Like I be talking to people.
You see what I'm saying, but mything is I have to stand on my
own.
10 first License it out, sothat way, when we come to the
table, somebody ain't got thismuch leverage over me.
No, we coming to the table aspartners, and this is what I'm
bringing to the table justperiod.
This is how it's gonna go.
Like I said I had the videogame.

(01:39:44):
If I would've known when I'vebeen doing that, I would have
did it like that then that wasmy next thing to ask you, so you
answered it already.

Speaker 2 (01:39:52):
That was cool, yeah, I mean, yeah, we got ant from we
run the streets in the building.
He really run the streetsbecause we got yes, sir, make
sure y'all share like subscribecomment.
Make sure y'all following.
We run subscribe comment.

Speaker 5 (01:40:06):
Make sure y'all following we Run the Streets on
all.
Listen, this is how you know.
People wasn't even saying weRun the Streets when I came out,
because how did I get we Runthe Streets for A and social
media?
So y'all wasn't even sayingy'all be in the streets like
that until they started watchingthese.
We Run the Streets.

Speaker 1 (01:40:24):
DVDs?
It definitely wasn't.
No, like'm in the streets, likeyeah before you, man.

Speaker 2 (01:40:35):
It definitely wasn't created that platform, bro, and
you felt the void.
At this point in the interview.
We normally go into a gamecalled um fast track fast track
and we have another game afterthat.

Speaker 3 (01:40:42):
Called one guy go so we're gonna run, we're gonna let
white boys, actually y'allshould put these jones Jones on
the phones, man.
What, what you mean, I'm gonnatalk to y'all.
Oh, all right, so look.
All right, so look.

Speaker 2 (01:41:00):
We play these games, and this game right here is
called fast-track.

Speaker 3 (01:41:05):
So, being as though we based in Philly I always like
to start the game off with thisone, and that's state property
of major figures.

Speaker 1 (01:41:15):
So that's whoever you choosing.

Speaker 2 (01:41:17):
One gotta go when you do that, though, you gotta pick
one you gotta pick one.

Speaker 3 (01:41:20):
Yeah, you gotta pick one.
Fast track you gotta pick one.

Speaker 1 (01:41:24):
That you like, not gotta go the one that you like.

Speaker 2 (01:41:26):
Yeah.
One that I like matter.
Go the one that you like.
Yeah, one thing I like matterof fact.

Speaker 5 (01:41:29):
Hold on, say that one more.

Speaker 3 (01:41:30):
So the one that you you leaning towards, the one
that you like the most.
That's the game for that.

Speaker 5 (01:41:35):
All right, I'm gonna say I'm gonna say I'm gonna say
stay properly, because they wasable to pit Philadelphia on the
biggest scale, because theysuccess went further and you
know, the world didn't probablysee as much talent that major
figures had okay, okay, okay, Ilike that.

Speaker 3 (01:41:52):
all right, we going to go NH or Joey Jihad, joey
Jihad.

Speaker 5 (01:42:06):
Don't get it fucked up, no go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:42:11):
I didn't even argue with you.

Speaker 5 (01:42:12):
I was a big time Joey Jihad fan.

Speaker 2 (01:42:14):
I didn't argue with you, right, did I argue with you
?
I ain't say nothing to youbecause you was there.

Speaker 3 (01:42:20):
Go ahead, all right.
So let's go.
Let's go, damn, I don't want to, I don't want to, I ain't want
to do that one like that.
I ain't want to do cuz likethat.
All right, so let's go here.
Let's go Cheek Raw or Vodka, docuz like that all right.

Speaker 2 (01:42:45):
So let's go here, let's go, uh cheek raw or vodka.

Speaker 5 (01:42:48):
That's crazy, I was thinking it vodka you got a
reason probably because I heardmore from vodka.
More, and I'll be loving it,don't?
Pass him Nothing else I'll beloving his.
He's fried.

Speaker 1 (01:43:07):
Yo Done.
He was done 30 minutes in CBExotics yo.

Speaker 2 (01:43:14):
Yo CB Exotics, CB Exotics yo.

Speaker 3 (01:43:18):
I'm on point though.

Speaker 1 (01:43:19):
No, we know all that, but don't pass him nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:43:23):
Don't give him shit, though, for real Chica Vaca.

Speaker 1 (01:43:27):
Yeah, Chica Vaca Like .

Speaker 5 (01:43:31):
Vaca, I recorded I just saw Chica like a week ago.
Yeah, I mean, I remember whenChica first came home, me and
Kyle was the first people thatdid some work with him.
Yeah, I mean, I'm on when shefirst came home, me and Kyle was
the first people that did somework with him.
Yeah, I mean, we did some crazywork, but Vaca, he just be
having some crazy stories in itand he give you that charisma.
Yeah, I mean, and it's likeboth of them get that charisma,

(01:43:51):
but Vaca, just I heard more fromVaca All right Read Dollars or
Cree Fork, damn.
Read.

Speaker 2 (01:44:02):
Debatable.
Uh, Reed Dollaz or Cree Fork,Damn Reed.

Speaker 3 (01:44:04):
Debatable but that's nice.
All right, I'm going with Cree.

Speaker 5 (01:44:07):
Once again.
It ain't nothing wrong withCree, but I was a more Reed
Dollaz fan you see what I'msaying Sap or Conway.

Speaker 1 (01:44:15):
Say that again Sap or Conway, conway.
You know who Sap is, thoughright where you from where I'm
from.

Speaker 4 (01:44:29):
Yeah, germany.

Speaker 5 (01:44:29):
All right, because I had to remember that, I had to
hear that I thought you had saidum jalil, because you know they
cousins, but I'm in my bag.
Conway really set the streetson fire to get it.

Speaker 1 (01:44:45):
Get it to what's going on now.
My man, I know I'm just askingyou what you, you feel me my man
we gonna go here with it umdamn dvds yeah

Speaker 2 (01:44:59):
but, I mean help me with this one, because was it dj
difference was that a?

Speaker 5 (01:45:06):
dvd can't stop most of them oh mixed tea.
Oh, it makes it my fault damnbut I think we could have like a
dvd.

Speaker 3 (01:45:12):
I thought it was a dvd but it's cool like we could
go like um cocaine city andsub-zeroero.

Speaker 5 (01:45:19):
Cocaine City Hell Sub-Zero was that shit too.

Speaker 2 (01:45:22):
Yeah, it was, but French had that.
French was on such shit though.

Speaker 5 (01:45:26):
French was the first person that was having 50 Cent
on his joints and going crazyand all that.

Speaker 1 (01:45:29):
French had a lot of beef shit, though Too raw for
the sheets, so he ain't shot.

Speaker 5 (01:45:33):
It was entertaining, though.
He was active in it LikeSub-Zero.
He was on it too, but he had alot of.

Speaker 4 (01:45:38):
See we was from.

Speaker 5 (01:45:39):
Philly so he had a lot of people from New York on
there, like French had morepeople, that was like a little
big.

Speaker 2 (01:45:48):
So while Sub-Zero was still, they out there chasing
around Jim Jones and shit onthey DVDs.

Speaker 1 (01:45:51):
Too raw for the streets, or headshots.
Headshots All right Tierra orLean.
All right Tierra or Lean TierraDamn that's the one I didn't
want.

Speaker 3 (01:45:59):
I was, I was, I was.

Speaker 2 (01:46:00):
What?
That's the one I wanted to sayearlier.
Damn we going with girls.
Still, let's go Lee Mazin orCrown Bella, oh.

Speaker 3 (01:46:10):
Say the second name, lee Mazin, or Crown Bella.

Speaker 5 (01:46:15):
Crown Bella.

Speaker 1 (01:46:17):
Stop it bro.

Speaker 3 (01:46:31):
What's wrong with it?
What's wrong with this dudeCrown Bella?

Speaker 2 (01:46:36):
I'm naming girls bro Bro, we not Bro bro.

Speaker 3 (01:46:39):
Bro, we just let we not.

Speaker 5 (01:46:41):
See, look, see, look, Look, look, look, bro, bro,
look, once again You're tellingus it's not a look.
Once again it's not nothingagainst Lee Crown Bella.
Don't rap better than Lee Mason, bro Yo, even if you don't
approve them.
Right?
You got to remind yourself Iwas listening at crown bella at
a different time, bro.

Speaker 2 (01:47:02):
I was wait, wait.
I was this, I was this.

Speaker 5 (01:47:05):
I was listening to leave mazing at a different time
.
Right, the amazing high Crown,bella, used to be talking that
shit.
Did you?
Did you know crown bella before?
Did you know, did you knowcrown bella?

Speaker 2 (01:47:17):
before she was crown bella, crown bella before she
was Crownbella.

Speaker 3 (01:47:19):
Hold this nigga, bro.
Are you crazy, bro?
Crownbella was never better inno time that would be amazing,
bro.

Speaker 5 (01:47:25):
In no time, bro.
Look, let's do this.
What time let's do this.

Speaker 2 (01:47:33):
What's the next one?
That was a good choice, whichone you pick.

Speaker 5 (01:47:35):
Crownbella, All right let's go.

Speaker 2 (01:47:36):
You better say it again you on some bullshit bro
let's just make it, no we gottarepresent our city Like stop
playing, All right.

Speaker 1 (01:47:43):
And y'all out of pocket.

Speaker 2 (01:47:45):
This is brought to you by CB, Exotic and Stocked Up
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Make sure you share, like.
Subscribe comment.
He's crazy, Go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:48:00):
One gotta go, go ahead cash all right, one guy,
go this game.
The opposite.

Speaker 5 (01:48:06):
You feel me I'm gonna need four things I'll be
watching y'all, bro talk to me Iknow, all right, my man, I love
it, man though I really lovethat.

Speaker 1 (01:48:19):
I love it man.

Speaker 5 (01:48:20):
One guy go.

Speaker 1 (01:48:22):
See four things one guy go, so it's the opposite.

Speaker 3 (01:48:25):
All right, bet he watched the show, so we got to
give him that one.

Speaker 1 (01:48:29):
We got to give him, I'm going to give him them two.
It's two, yeah, yeah, we got togive you ready.

Speaker 4 (01:48:35):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:48:37):
NH Reed, Dollaz, Meek Mill, Joey Jahad, and that ever
.
You can't mess this up Onegotta go, and that ever, that
one.

Speaker 3 (01:48:48):
That one.
Say them names again.
Yeah, that one NH.

Speaker 1 (01:48:52):
Meek Mill, nh.
Joey Jahad Reed Dollaz.

Speaker 4 (01:48:54):
One gotta go.
You can't mess up.

Speaker 2 (01:49:00):
NH.
Say it one more time.
One more time, say it again.

Speaker 3 (01:49:04):
Say it again.
This is what I'm talking about,bro.
Say it again Wait, wait, wait,wait.

Speaker 2 (01:49:07):
Say it one more time Whoa bro, Say it again.

Speaker 1 (01:49:10):
Uh-huh, reed Dollaz.
Right Meek Mills, right MeekMills, joey.

Speaker 2 (01:49:15):
Jahan.
Them three can't go and H gotto go, look, so he got to.

Speaker 5 (01:49:21):
I'm going to make sure.

Speaker 2 (01:49:23):
I'm going to make sure y'all asking me the same
question, right, h got to goOnce again.

Speaker 5 (01:49:27):
All right, you just asked me Wait, wait, wait.
Whoa, whoa, whoa?
You just asked me.
You said Reed Dollars, right?
I grew up in an era when JoeyJahan was killing shit Murderer.
I grew up in an era when MeekMills was killing shit Murderer.
Now, I'm not saying A&H wasn'tkilling shit, but you just asked

(01:49:50):
me about three people that Iwould pick before him and that's
my youngin'.
Like you just got to, I'mlooking at I don't know which
way you're looking at it forreal, for real, I'm just telling
you my vision and I don't evengot a.
I don't even got no answer forit.

Speaker 4 (01:50:05):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:50:06):
So that ever it was three people out of the NH.

Speaker 2 (01:50:09):
Yeah, that ever he really think Reed wasn't all
right.
That's the crazy one.

Speaker 5 (01:50:31):
Who?
You, who got golden?
I'm a speaker.

Speaker 1 (01:50:38):
I'm a speaker.

Speaker 2 (01:50:53):
Y'all still got the sponsors for YouTube.

Speaker 5 (01:50:54):
And yeah, wait, wait, oh, y'all still got the sponsor
for YouTube, cuz we could sayfuck that right.
You gotta pay attention to whenReed was really the fuck going
in bro, that's what people thinkabout he created.

Speaker 3 (01:51:03):
Say Cheese, say Cheese is another mixtape for
Reed.

Speaker 2 (01:51:06):
He created, Say Cheese bro.

Speaker 5 (01:51:08):
I never listened to a Reed Dollars mixtape.

Speaker 2 (01:51:11):
I used to watch all Reed.

Speaker 5 (01:51:12):
Dollars stuff on YouTube or on DVDs.
So when you asking me aboutbars, why isn it was?
It was going on.

Speaker 3 (01:51:29):
It wasn't never a smoke game.
The next one.

Speaker 2 (01:51:43):
You know what's the comfortable.
We know what that's one tape.
We know a big dog yard is?

Speaker 4 (01:51:47):
I don't know no, read tapes.

Speaker 3 (01:51:56):
AAP addressing all problems.
Say, cheese say cheese.

Speaker 5 (01:51:58):
Yeah, it was one.
It was.
One is one, is my body don'tknow?
No Reed Dollars tapes, but I'mspeaking of Art it was sold out.

Speaker 1 (01:52:11):
It was sold out.

Speaker 2 (01:52:18):
AAP was sold out everywhere Yo.

Speaker 1 (01:52:23):
He was the hottest thing in the streets.

Speaker 5 (01:52:27):
Yo yo alright alright Cause, I'm about to tell him
something, so Mystical was hot.

Speaker 2 (01:52:33):
He had the streets hot back in the day.
You play that shit right now.
What was we listening to?
No, you're mixing it up.
No, that's what it is, cause hewas hot back then.
You play that shit right now.
You be like yo.
What was we listening to?
No, you're mixing it up.
No, that's what it is, becausehe was hot back then.

Speaker 1 (01:52:43):
You mixing a nigga who was running the game and
couldn't rap with Reed.
I'm not saying Reed couldn'trap.

Speaker 5 (01:52:50):
I'm not saying that.

Speaker 1 (01:52:52):
The reason I say that ever we going off freestyle for
freestyle.
Stop trying to act like it'smore than it.
It's not more than freestyles,Only freestyles with Styles.

(01:53:15):
With you ain't never in battles.

Speaker 3 (01:53:18):
You never talk about, never heard the three he is
getting slaughtered.

Speaker 2 (01:53:32):
Rock today.
Oh, he is right now.

Speaker 1 (01:53:36):
Oh, I will be.

Speaker 2 (01:53:36):
There will be at your battle tomorrow, right now,
right now, no, no, it's tomorrow.
Oh, all right, we'll be there.
We'll be at your battletomorrow, man.
Oh, come on.
What's your problem?

Speaker 1 (01:53:40):
with Frankie.
Y'all not about to keep tellingme that, besides Reed fucking
it up on camp, yeah, he was inEminem Rap.
God, vinny, I know Reed Realaccomplishments.
I'm not taking that away fromhim what I'm I do you don't even
know.
One take.

Speaker 2 (01:53:58):
Who knows them?
I just told you.

Speaker 3 (01:54:00):
Yo Kudju was with them.

Speaker 1 (01:54:01):
No, your fucking man was recording it.

Speaker 4 (01:54:04):
No, don't, nobody know that shit.

Speaker 1 (01:54:06):
What the fuck did you talk about?
Don't nobody know?
No Reed tapes, bro.

Speaker 5 (01:54:11):
Shout out to NH man.
Shout out to Reed man.
Shout out to Hattie.
Shout out to me, know, I don'tknow, I'll do the number one,
bro and Reed you my guy bro, butyou know if niggas name top 20
mixtapes in Philly.

Speaker 1 (01:54:22):
you're not on it.
You're not, you're not.
Come on bro.
No, not.
Songs hits nothing.
He's not on, none of them.
Lists Young Reed Southwestrepresent the free.

Speaker 5 (01:54:35):
You're at the top number one other than that.
No, we're not gonna keep doingthat.

Speaker 2 (01:54:45):
Respect what?
We not gonna keep doing, thoughyou know.

Speaker 1 (01:54:49):
You know he was a three King like he taking none
of that away from me, but everytime, look, this is how we do it
.
Look, every time I ask thatshit right, nh Me did it.
I be like, alright, so we allknow they freestyle.
Then I be like.
But NH had Mr Comfortable,though, and he was on the big

(01:55:11):
dog yard Fire at will.
That was one of the best.
Like you can go to CDs andfeatures.
What are you forgetting aboutDream Chasers features?

Speaker 2 (01:55:22):
And then they can say and then they can be like a he
got a AP that freestyles talkingabout.
This is a look look you talkingabout this on a AP, autumn
Jones.
He got on DVDs All that shit onAB.

Speaker 5 (01:55:40):
You know what this tells me?
That tells me the age bracket.

Speaker 2 (01:55:45):
That's all what I'm saying is.

Speaker 5 (01:55:50):
He's saying to you he don't know, no Reed Dollars
Mixtapes.
Listen to what I'm saying.
When you ask the question, whoyou taking?
Lebron James, michael Jordan,kobe Bryant and name somebody
else.
Right, it's subjective.
You're going to go in order ofthe creativity and the standards
of when they was doing theirthing.

(01:56:11):
It's not taking nothing awayfrom the fourth person, but I'm
just putting these three peoplefirst.

Speaker 1 (01:56:17):
But that's why it's all an opinion, it's all of the
opinion.
Did I not just sit here andtell you you, when it come to to
raw Headshots, you did.
I'm not just sit here and breakdown everything.
How to raw was the 90s?

(01:56:38):
Enough.
Sit here and break downeverything, how too raw was the
90s?
And up then smack, copy thewhole.
Bro, I'm tapped in.
We can have a 80s hip-hop convoand i'ma keep up.
I'm not one of them, bro.
What I'm telling you is, whenyou name the names and I say
that, error, everybody in thatera has a classic mixtape.
Reed't, no, he don't.

(01:56:59):
You never heard nobody but himsaying that this mixtape was a
classic.
Bro, on my life, bro.

Speaker 3 (01:57:08):
I know you talking about 3D bro.

Speaker 2 (01:57:11):
Like what.
I'm just saying he was workingback, then he got all that.
Let's say you lean bean and ally'all was headshots.
Y'all headshots bro, bro, y'allheadshots bro.

Speaker 1 (01:57:24):
That's not even my ever bro.
It's not top class versusheadshots, Cause I just told you
Bricks was better than 90% ofniggas.
Y'all keep trying to switchthings up.

Speaker 2 (01:57:36):
It's just about me not having with bro god, you
wasn't you to you, you just saidname a classic free feature I
don't know none of his features,but they don't exist a feature.

Speaker 1 (01:57:52):
Y'all can't name a classic real feature, you, you,
you see me got one, you.

Speaker 5 (01:58:06):
You see me, see me, look, look, look, look, I'm
gonna give you.
I mean, look, it's not.
It's not about naming theclassification when you ask me a
question, right, and the reasonwhy, right on, I picked reed.
Look, the reason why I pickedreed ain't no reason because
reed was one of those that mademe even like the rap.

Speaker 4 (01:58:18):
DVD shit period.
That was his shit Just period.
It was something in thebeginning.

Speaker 5 (01:58:23):
Then it was Joey Jahad, then it was Meek, and
then it was NH, and then it wassomebody else.
But you ask me out of thesepeople.
But my thing is, that's whatthat gang's supposed to do.
It's supposed to have y'allenergized.
They get people to eat.

Speaker 4 (01:58:38):
No, that's what they do, that's what they do I
respect it.

Speaker 5 (01:58:45):
I respect it.

Speaker 2 (01:58:46):
I respect it.
Even H will respect our answer.

Speaker 5 (01:58:50):
That's what I was going to say.
I swear to God, I was going tosay it, Because look you got to
remind me FaceTime H right now.
Facetime him Because H probablywas looking up to Reed when he
was doing the battle and shit Hwas.

Speaker 2 (01:59:03):
I remember H getting in thebackseat.

Speaker 5 (01:59:06):
But that's why I said the H was breaking Reed was.

Speaker 2 (01:59:09):
That's why I said the H was breaking, he was killing
shit out here.
Bro, you don't even understand.

Speaker 5 (01:59:19):
So what you do?
A feature with Reed right now.
Of course he's talking about me.
I wanted him to say something.
So it's not no Reed, no Reed.

Speaker 2 (01:59:23):
You just saying you just love.
That's going to be his firstfeature.

Speaker 5 (01:59:27):
No bro.

Speaker 2 (01:59:28):
You're going to support my guy Nate.
That's all.
See, now I'm going to have togive you a little history on
Reed Dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:59:34):
real quick, you love him Because he, you love him Yo.

Speaker 2 (01:59:36):
Next question bro, no , no no no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (01:59:38):
I gotta get to the next one.
I gotta hold a mixtape with NH.

Speaker 2 (01:59:43):
Wait can I say this real quick NH got a whole
mixtape together.
Can I say Y'all know I got over200 mixtapes.

Speaker 1 (01:59:47):
How could you win anything without a feature on a
song?
How could you win anything?
How is you the't got a classicfeature on a song?
This back when Meek ain't evenhad a fucking background to
blackball you?
You could have did anything youwant, even if him and Meek was
beefing.

(02:00:08):
That wasn't even Meek time todo that.
That was when Meek had moreleverage than him?
Where your features at bro?
Where's your classics?
Where's your in my bags?

Speaker 5 (02:00:18):
Yo, all right, look, so let me ask you a question.
Let me ask you a question realquick how?

Speaker 1 (02:00:22):
about the lobby Bitch .
I feel like money.
Where's them?
We don't have none of them.

Speaker 5 (02:00:26):
All right, so let me ask you a question about this
situation, right?
Here Can we go to Toast, tothis.

Speaker 1 (02:00:34):
No, Some people.
But look, that was the mostterrible song to come out of
Philadelphia.

Speaker 5 (02:00:38):
Look some people is better rappers.

Speaker 2 (02:00:41):
For real.
I was at that video.

Speaker 4 (02:00:43):
For real At the club scene and some people is better
artists.
No, I was actually at that, Iwas at that.

Speaker 2 (02:00:49):
So you basing it on RIB Some people is better
rappers, Like some people isbetter rappers.

Speaker 5 (02:00:54):
And some people is better artists Because Meek was
able to come in the game andmake music that was going to
another level.

Speaker 2 (02:01:02):
Can I say something, though?

Speaker 5 (02:01:03):
real quick and Reid probably couldn't make a single.
That's it.

Speaker 2 (02:01:06):
Look back then.
Bro boy was hot, like everybodywanted Reid around Niggas was
calling for Reid Time out.

Speaker 5 (02:01:12):
Can I finish, can I?

Speaker 2 (02:01:13):
finish.
Can I finish?
Even them names that we'resaying?
That's Even them names thatwe're saying.
Hattie was calling read to bewith read and get on the songs
with read it was fun, I wasthere.
Hattie, you know, yeah, if youwatching.

Speaker 5 (02:01:26):
Hattie was calling.

Speaker 2 (02:01:27):
H was calling H you watching.
You was calling.
Niggas was calling to be onboth songs.
Bro, he was hot.

Speaker 1 (02:01:42):
I mean he lives somewhere, nowhere land.
I mean he'll make it up here,matter of fact, here tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (02:01:50):
It would have been you.
Look, I'm not gonna lie, hemissed out on a lot.
So look, let me ask yousomething.

Speaker 5 (02:01:58):
Do y'all want Reed up there?
Yeah, all right, because.

Speaker 2 (02:02:04):
Everybody in Philly that got a little something
going on.

Speaker 5 (02:02:05):
The reason why I say that?
Because I just talked to Reedlike a month ago, right, you
know what I mean.
I told him the last thing.

Speaker 2 (02:02:10):
I told him Reed ain't coming up here until he talk to
me, though, see, he alreadyknow that.

Speaker 1 (02:02:15):
Next question.

Speaker 2 (02:02:16):
We going next, we not going to box ourselves in.
Go ahead.
That's why, yeah, we not goingto box ourselves in Shout out
Reed.
Shout out Reed man.

Speaker 1 (02:02:24):
Cause it mean Y'all know what it is.

Speaker 5 (02:02:28):
We want all four of them.

Speaker 2 (02:02:29):
Yeah, that'd be fire, yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:02:31):
All right, you ready.
It ain't going to be a littledifferent, cause his, his, his,
his.

Speaker 3 (02:02:36):
So swap the last one.

Speaker 2 (02:02:38):
We might have to chop a little bit of that.

Speaker 5 (02:02:40):
Swap the last person out All right boy I was asking
what question you might have.
That's all I'm saying.
All right look, chemistrybuildup Y'all ain't got no book.
You're like swap the nextperson, everything.

Speaker 1 (02:02:48):
Everything that they ever did in life since they was
born.
You ready.

Speaker 2 (02:02:52):
It's going to.
Let's go, diddy Birdman.

Speaker 1 (02:02:54):
Diddy.

Speaker 2 (02:02:55):
Jermaine.

Speaker 1 (02:02:57):
Dupri.

Speaker 2 (02:03:02):
You said Diddy twice, oh shit.

Speaker 3 (02:03:04):
Jermaine Dupri.
That's the shit he be doing,and you got to, and you got to,
and you got to Diddy.

Speaker 1 (02:03:10):
Jermaine Dupri Birdman.
Oh yeah, dr Dre.
Yeah, go with him, bro, dr Dre.
Jermaine Dupri, diddy andMerman.

Speaker 3 (02:03:24):
That's a crazy one.
Let's make it harder, though weain't gonna make it harder.

Speaker 4 (02:03:31):
That is hard.

Speaker 5 (02:03:33):
I said pause.

Speaker 2 (02:03:35):
That was crazy.

Speaker 1 (02:03:38):
No, that shit gonna be crazy.
I'm talking to you.
That was crazy.
Swap it with Jay-Z.

Speaker 3 (02:03:39):
No, because he not that shit going to be crazy.
I'm talking to you.
Do that, do that.

Speaker 1 (02:03:49):
Do that, Jay-Z.
Dr Dre, Birdman, P Diddy.

Speaker 2 (02:03:55):
P Diddy.
Why P Diddy go Biggie going.
You say he got to go.
What you say?
Everything going to beeverything that they ever
created dealt with already cuz.
We're not going off hisaccolade.
We're not going on with yougoing through right now
Everything that he got going onPeople, not what he got right

(02:04:17):
now like personally.

Speaker 5 (02:04:18):
See, look I'm.

Speaker 2 (02:04:18):
Everything Nate ever did.

Speaker 3 (02:04:19):
We talking about music.

Speaker 5 (02:04:20):
See, look, I'm going to tell you something, bro.
If I don't get fucked withanybody, dead right, just in
life period.
Certain things you just can'tdo he different.

Speaker 1 (02:04:28):
He a creator, just period.
What?

Speaker 5 (02:04:31):
are you talking about ?

Speaker 3 (02:04:33):
Ain't that the question you ask you say no, no,
no, hold on, say the peopleover though yeah, you say it,
he's different bro, just say thepeople over though, jay-z.

Speaker 5 (02:04:40):
Right, you say it, so Hold on hold on hold on Go
ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (02:04:44):
Jay-Z Diddy Birdman and fucking he made me feel.

Speaker 5 (02:04:49):
And you say Dr Dre, dr Dre, and you say one of them
got to go all they stuff, rightEverything, whatever they did in
life.

Speaker 2 (02:04:58):
So what I'm saying is y'all not picking.

Speaker 5 (02:04:59):
Y'all talking about, they catalog.

Speaker 1 (02:05:01):
Everything, everything, the artists.
They found all types of shit.

Speaker 5 (02:05:05):
But it's no personal shit right.

Speaker 2 (02:05:07):
No Right, all right, it's the culture.

Speaker 5 (02:05:10):
Jay-Z Birdman, dr Dre , the P Diddy.

Speaker 2 (02:05:17):
Yeah, which one you choosing?
They all on the table.

Speaker 5 (02:05:21):
I'm going to say JZ got to bounce.

Speaker 1 (02:05:23):
I told you Because he not up to the part.

Speaker 5 (02:05:27):
He ain't do it Because he ain't, he didn't do
what they did.
Jermaine Dupree did.
Yeah, see, I had to understandthe question which you were
saying Because personalized, I'mthinking, I'm thinking.

Speaker 2 (02:05:43):
You know, I'm thinking.
I'm thinking of the jammingwhen jay-z from jay-z ain't do.

Speaker 1 (02:05:45):
Y'all gotta really start.
When did?

Speaker 2 (02:05:46):
jay-z ain't do that.

Speaker 1 (02:05:46):
Oh yeah, we start knowing shit before y'all.
When jay-z was signing all ofRockefeller niggas, it was him
bigs, and dame, dame Kanye didhip-hop Kayumbu all on.

Speaker 5 (02:05:56):
He says he's saying this ain't finish the job.
He's saying Hip-hop, kyoomba,all of them.
Jay-z himself is J-Lo andRihanna.
He didn't add all the, hedidn't finish the job, he didn't
Period.

Speaker 2 (02:06:07):
That's what it was, everybody look, if you say Dr
Dre, right, I thought you wasgoing to say like no man, I
thought you was trying to saythat's why I'm saying like, like
, I'm trying to figure out whatyou're saying when you say jay-z
gotta go, rockefeller gotta goindefinitely but I'm being.

Speaker 1 (02:06:30):
He's gotta go, everybody gotta go, just just
carrying that.
Go for everybody cash, but justeverybody.
Everything's going to explainsomething to you state property
gotta go everything got.

Speaker 2 (02:06:36):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,no, no, no, no, no, no.
Property gotta go, everythinggotta go.
That dealt with.

Speaker 3 (02:06:39):
Jay-z, rihanna, all of them, kanye all of them, how
you trying to move the goalposts, because he here today.

Speaker 5 (02:06:47):
I'm trying to figure out how the fuck you doing on
that.
You need to freeze it.

Speaker 2 (02:06:51):
No, that ain't what you saying.
We on the same page.

Speaker 4 (02:06:56):
They not even hearing me?

Speaker 1 (02:06:59):
What is y'all saying that for?
Because I just broke it down.

Speaker 2 (02:07:01):
You said all his accolades, right.

Speaker 1 (02:07:03):
Right, so we was basing it off the artist and all
.

Speaker 2 (02:07:06):
And everything he ever dealt with.

Speaker 1 (02:07:08):
Right, you were just basing it off his family tree,
so we talking about him.

Speaker 5 (02:07:12):
That's on this list.
Everything goes how the fuckyou going to say that you got to
?

Speaker 2 (02:07:26):
switch the game up, bro.
How the fuck you going to saythat I don't be laying on hold?
You crazy, you tripping.
Everything got to go Freeway.
Mack Beans.

Speaker 3 (02:07:33):
Rihanna Kanye.

Speaker 2 (02:07:35):
West.
All Was all that shit is overwith.

Speaker 1 (02:07:41):
The Yeezys.
Never came out for all that.
Shit is done like stop playing.

Speaker 5 (02:07:54):
This is why this is why y'all chosen is AZ, because
he associated the Philly.
This is why y'all chose Jay-ZBecause he associated with
Philly.
So you're saying, if it wasn'tno, jay-z.

Speaker 3 (02:08:03):
I got no info on him.

Speaker 5 (02:08:03):
No that's not what you're saying.

Speaker 4 (02:08:05):
But they was going to be paired.

Speaker 3 (02:08:07):
But I was just saying that.

Speaker 5 (02:08:08):
Jay-Z didn't finish the job.
That was my thing.
I just think he should Like allthat went down.
Yeah, exactly that's what I'msaying.
If Dre had fucking.

Speaker 1 (02:08:18):
Pop and Diddy had Biggie bro.
What are we talking about?
It got to be Jay-Z.
What are you talking about?
It's no comparison.
It's like the two best.
What are you talking about?

Speaker 5 (02:08:27):
Once again that comes up.
Who want to go besides Ho?
So look, that comes back to thequestion.
Hold on Biggie.
This is a crazy conversation.
Nobody be talking about betterthan me, bro, somebody got to go
, so Pete did it, though itain't no high feelings.

Speaker 4 (02:08:40):
Somebody got to go.

Speaker 1 (02:08:42):
That is better than him.
So he said automatically Drehad Pac and fucking Eminem at 50
Cent.
He not going nowhere.
Birdman got Wayne, nicki andDrake.

Speaker 2 (02:08:54):
Somebody got to go, man.
Oh, it don't matter, no.

Speaker 5 (02:09:04):
It's not Dr Dre yeah why wouldn't you pick dr Dream?

Speaker 2 (02:09:09):
No.

Speaker 1 (02:09:14):
Yes, yes, the unit Bye, then you erase it, then you
erase it.

Speaker 2 (02:09:19):
M&O.

Speaker 1 (02:09:19):
You erase it.

Speaker 2 (02:09:20):
Bye, I don't play that shit, I don't play none of
that.
Bye, bye.
Look, he got headphone.
Beats His culture.
Somebody else got speakerjoints too, but look.

Speaker 5 (02:09:32):
But that's why.

Speaker 2 (02:09:33):
Them niggas can go bro.

Speaker 5 (02:09:34):
Right here, Hold what I.
That's why.

Speaker 3 (02:09:40):
I just said.
That's why it's your opinion.

Speaker 2 (02:09:41):
So Yeezy's got to go.
I'm asking you, that's why it'syour opinion.

Speaker 5 (02:09:43):
So the Yeezy's done, so no headphones.
I'm not letting Yeezy's go noheadphones.
I'm not letting.

Speaker 2 (02:09:46):
Yeezy's, I'm not having headphones over sneakers.
We got to do priority.
What y'all doing?
Headphones or sneakers?
We talking about Yeezy thoughbro Pac is dead my nigga Yeezy
juvenating that shit right now.
That shit don't mean nothing,that means a lot.
I need that nigga on my teamright now and guess what's the
highest selling album afternigga died?

(02:10:08):
Yeah, yeezy selling hot rightnow.
Guess who, guess who thehighest selling album?
Who the highest selling rightnow?

Speaker 1 (02:10:20):
Like on the charts today, While we sitting on the
chair Today, that's great.

Speaker 3 (02:10:25):
Yeah, one gotta, one gotta go DVDs.

Speaker 2 (02:10:29):
We gonna see one easy die one gotta.
One gotta go DVDs.
Good, let's go, you won't bemad.
He said hold God, go you out ofpark.

Speaker 1 (02:10:45):
I just broke it down.
You just made a whole point.
You ain't even answering mypoint.

Speaker 5 (02:10:49):
But no, he feel like how you feel about Anish, that's
all.

Speaker 1 (02:10:52):
No, it's not that.
Because, bro, it is that.
No, look, look, listen bro.

Speaker 3 (02:10:57):
If I say some shit, i'ma break that shit All the way
down.

Speaker 1 (02:10:58):
That's how you feel about Hold not going, bro.
I explained how the other threecan't.
It is that?
No, look, look, listen, bro.
Is that for sure?
I'm going to break that shitall we have.

Speaker 2 (02:11:00):
I don't care.
That's how you feel about Hovnot going.
Bro.
I explained how the numberthree can't go.

Speaker 5 (02:11:04):
But what I'm saying, that's how you feel about Hov,
the same way you feel about NH.
That's how you feel about Hov.
He feelings, though, whateveryou say to him about it the Hov
game, so hard Murder ain't.

Speaker 1 (02:11:16):
Bro, point blank.

Speaker 4 (02:11:17):
Like what?

Speaker 1 (02:11:18):
But I'm going to go to Wire.

Speaker 2 (02:11:21):
No, I can't put yours in there A lot of people not
going to like this episodebecause you said what you said
about Hov bro, but I'm going togo out there None of y'all have
to be JT fiends to be up here.

Speaker 4 (02:11:33):
None of y'all.

Speaker 1 (02:11:34):
You know that he got to go, though you know that he
got to go, though we didn't sayalbums, we said everything bro,
burn me and not go anywhere.

Speaker 5 (02:11:44):
Dr Dre is not going anywhere.
The longevity the other threeare still in the race.
You know, hip-hop wouldn't evenbe what you like, bro.
The other three, that's yourchoice, hip-hop wouldn't even be
what it is.
He in the race, but he ain't inthe like.

Speaker 1 (02:11:53):
Oh no, he's most probably by himself.

Speaker 5 (02:11:54):
Yeah, you're right he's not multiplying like
building umpires under umpires,under umpires.
That's the reason why I said Inever say hove ain't knowing
this thing.
I'm just saying, I'm going withbirdman, you know, because
they're still making plays we'retalking about the real
specifics, bro.

Speaker 1 (02:12:13):
When you name that's what I'm saying, bro.
In 2024, bro, be disrespectinghip-hop.
Bro, you gotta be careful whenyou talk about certain names.
When you talk about biggies andpox and nw and easy, you gotta
be careful.
Fuck a pair of yeezys, bro.
You up here talking thatbullshit, real right, you

(02:12:33):
talking about yeezys?
Niggas gonna be mad because ofthat.
No, they not.

Speaker 2 (02:12:36):
Yes, they are tripping, bro.
You talking about.
You just said jay-z ain't go.
All right, so big he gotta gobro hove, having to go is crazy,
bro you never even said thatbefore you tripping bro.
Yeah, nwa gotta go bro oh thatyou gotta go all right bro, one,
one guy go dvd you're saying'sgotta go, you out your mind.

Speaker 3 (02:13:02):
We're gonna go the Wire Hair Shot, smack Cocaine
City.

Speaker 1 (02:13:09):
Cocaine City.

Speaker 3 (02:13:11):
Damn it would be Cocaine City.

Speaker 1 (02:13:15):
Nothing compared to Smack.
To me, the Wire is a staple inPhiladelphia hip-hop history, so
that can't go nowhere.
I don't think Kool King Cityhad to impact his.

Speaker 3 (02:13:38):
Well, I don't know.
I wasn't in New york so Iwouldn't know.

Speaker 1 (02:13:41):
But and philly, for sure we uh, headshot on camera,
like yeah, I was watchingcocaine if you, if you not as
much as he shots no for hell, no, no.
That's what I'm saying, that'swhat I'm saying like I don't, I
don't think that, yeah, yeah,yeah yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:13:58):
Because they kosher wasn't like our kosher it wasn't
.

Speaker 2 (02:14:01):
It was a little different.

Speaker 5 (02:14:03):
Yeah it was yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:14:05):
It was, it did it did .
I remember that sub-zero Jon,though, like I said, before.

Speaker 5 (02:14:11):
A lot of artists say they've been watching
Philadelphia rappers for years.
Y'all know what I mean.
I'ma keep it real, man.

Speaker 2 (02:14:16):
We used to ride around in the car.
This is when cars had TVs inthem bro.
The.
Dvd players and this is whypeople wanted to be entertained
by them, DVDs and shit.
Like we used to ride around inthe car with a book full of DVDs
, sliding them inside the TV.
Nine times out of ten they wasrap DVDs, that's a fact.

Speaker 3 (02:14:36):
That's a fact, or?

Speaker 5 (02:14:39):
state property it's just still one of them, jones,
in the movie theater.

Speaker 2 (02:14:43):
That's crazy right, yeah Like people just rapping.

Speaker 5 (02:14:47):
Yeah, no, literally round andround.

Speaker 2 (02:14:50):
Why niggas rapping?
Yeah, no, no.

Speaker 5 (02:15:02):
Freestyling, yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:15:03):
So uh, man, I feel like the DVD era was special man
.

Speaker 1 (02:15:05):
Yeah, it played it played his part, but uh what you
think what you got another one,uh well, one guy bro.
Um yeah, I could just come offthe top with some females real
quick, let's go.
Um, all right, All right.
Eve Foxy Brown, lil' Kim LaurynHill.

Speaker 3 (02:15:24):
Oh man, Take Lauryn Hill out and put Remy Ma right
there All right?

Speaker 1 (02:15:28):
Well, you just did it for me.
Damn Remy Ma.

Speaker 2 (02:15:33):
Eve.

Speaker 1 (02:15:34):
Foxy Brown Lil' Kim Damn.
Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 5 (02:15:38):
That looks crazy, foxy Brown.
What Kim Damn.
Yeah, I like that.
That looks crazy, foxy Brown.

Speaker 2 (02:15:45):
What she gotta go right, that's my opinion, you
said it why she gotta go shegotta dip like ranch, why she
gotta go?

Speaker 5 (02:15:50):
Because the other three I fuck with heavy Damn.
It ain't nothing to do withFoxy Brown, it just.

Speaker 2 (02:15:56):
Me neither All right man.
This is the Real or the Mostpodcast man we got Ant from.
We Run the Streets in thebuilding.
Make sure you share, like,subscribe, comment.

Speaker 3 (02:16:07):
Hold on Before we get out of here.
I just got to argue this withCat.
I do, bro, late penalty BecauseEve catalog and Foxy catalog.

Speaker 5 (02:16:19):
Oh see, time out, let's go back.
You got to rewind the thing.
Y'all wasn't saying music-wise,you was just saying it's off
what?
You want.
Oh, either way it's still goingto be her, though.
Oh yeah, yeah, because we'regoing to go back to their
catalog.

Speaker 4 (02:16:34):
I just think that Foxy.

Speaker 5 (02:16:35):
Brown had no catalog like Eve.

Speaker 1 (02:16:36):
She had no catalog.
She had one good album who,foxy Brown.
I thought, Foxy Brown only hadlike two songs.

Speaker 2 (02:16:42):
No, no, no, some shit like that.

Speaker 5 (02:16:43):
I thought she only had two songs in her whole life.

Speaker 1 (02:16:45):
No, those two songs.
That album is hot as shit.

Speaker 3 (02:16:48):
China Doll was hot too, though that second album
that was hot, no it wasn't.

Speaker 2 (02:16:54):
Trippin' Yo this boy, white boy crazy.
We gonna um, yeah, man, shoutout to everybody we talked about
On the cast today, man, what wedo is try to bring light to the
people that we talk about.
Man, no matter what we talkingnegative positive.
We bullshit man.
It's really the most podcast weup here smoking.

Speaker 5 (02:17:15):
The best in the world .

Speaker 2 (02:17:17):
Y'all know who y'all are.
Get up here, hatt yeah, get uphere and get up and get up here
and they in a re are reallyfamily like we gonna.
We gonna keep doing.

Speaker 5 (02:17:35):
This what I'm doing my son, right y'all?
Y'all basically Look, this iswhat I'm going to do on my side,
right Y'all?
Basically check who y'all wantto reach out to right Anybody
that I fuck with personally.
I'm going to just put the wordin because y'all platform is a
platform they need to be onanyway.

Speaker 2 (02:17:50):
Sometimes they probably just don't be hearing
about it or seeing it.

Speaker 5 (02:17:53):
Y'all can think, y'all right there, but sometimes
they probably don't come acrosssomebody.
You see what?
I'm saying so those artiststhat y'all probably be thinking
about probably need to get onplay.

Speaker 2 (02:18:04):
No, but the ones we talking about specifically
because look, all right, look,just this is what I'm gonna do
so.

Speaker 5 (02:18:13):
It just yeah, man, we just wanted to.

Speaker 3 (02:18:15):
We're going to just do it, but we want that too,
though yeah we want you tohappen.

Speaker 1 (02:18:18):
We we appreciate that for sure.
Oh man, it's a full circlemoment for me, man.

Speaker 2 (02:18:22):
If y'all know and y'all know and down to earth,
real cool, do man?
This was a beautiful, beautifulpodcast we just had.

Speaker 3 (02:18:30):
Yes, man.

Speaker 2 (02:18:31):
All this is the shine a light on the city of
Philadelphia and the otherartists that's in the country
and around the world.
Whoever come to the podcast,whoever watching the podcast, we
appreciate you appreciate y'allman.

Speaker 1 (02:18:43):
And another thing this is a podcast.

Speaker 2 (02:18:46):
This is not an interview he wanted to let y'all
do that.
Oh, y'all talking about chewing.

Speaker 1 (02:18:52):
That's a podcast y'all, y'all.
If y'all want the guests tojust talk and then a question,
that just get x.
After that, go, go watch themother, the uh interview.
Don't watch no podcast.
Because a podcast everybody'ssupposed to be talking everybody
chips in everybody chips in.
It's about everybody.
It's no child that's why.

Speaker 5 (02:19:12):
That's why it's called the podcast and not an
interview, like you say this,and because we are philly man.

Speaker 2 (02:19:18):
This is really the philly lingo man to the T.
Like this is really ourcommunication, but we trying to
make sure this is internetfriendly and good for customers
and people that are sitting atwork to be able to listen and be
able to choose us to be thelisteners I mean us to be their
hosts while they're listeningListen bro, like what I be

(02:19:39):
saying is people that's outsideof Philadelphia, this is what
they look at, like, even if theydon't live in Philly, are they?

Speaker 5 (02:19:45):
you know what I'm saying?
Like they just be looking atthings to occupy their time, to
understand, because people thatdon't live in the hood, this is
the closest they gonna get tostuff, them being on, like when
we was doing the DVDs and allthat.
That was the closest that theywas going to get to how the hood
is.
So y'all plays a part in thisfield, whereas though, y'all
getting people coming up here,they telling these stories and

(02:20:06):
everything.
This is the way they going togive it to.
This is you see what I'm saying?
Because somebody might have athousand million followers, but
they probably don't tell a storyon it.

Speaker 2 (02:20:14):
They'll come up here and tell a story all right
before we get out of here,though and I want you to let the
people know we'll keep youmotivated and we'll keep you
drive, man, keep you driven mykids all right, you see, I'm
saying you know, just for the.

Speaker 5 (02:20:26):
You know, I named my son legend because I was
legendary already you feel meinstagram and all your contacts,
oh just all.
We went to streets across theboard on anything like I said.
Like when I first started,everybody wasn't saying we went
to streets how you think I gotwe run the streets all across
every last platform that's outhere.
That mean I was really early inthe game for one.

Speaker 2 (02:20:45):
Yeah, it's a real of the most podcast.
I'm really I'm out of worldcash I'm white boy d2a and we
got, we run the streets and thefield, in the building, in the
building, we out at us man, weout man.

Speaker 1 (02:20:55):
Really the moose podcast man.

Speaker 3 (02:20:58):
We out man Really the most.

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