SIT DOWN AND LET’S POD I FEAT ASIA SPARKS I RTM PODCAST I SZN O2 | EP 18 - Realer Than Most Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:20):
We'll see you next time.
Rilla the Moose Podcast.
I'm Rilla.
I'm Outta World Cash.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
I'm White Boy.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
D2A and it's the Rilla, the Moose Podcast.
Today we got family in thebuilding.
Yes, sir.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Yeah, man.
She from down the way, man, theSee you already know how we got
carried.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Sparkle girl, you already know.
Go ahead and pop it.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
It's your girl, asia.

Speaker 4 (00:52):
Sparks.
You already know what it is,bet Hip Hop Cypher 106 and Park
Powerhouse.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
You already know what it is you better know it, make
sure you add Sparkle Girl A Topgeneral.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
Add Sparkle Girl A Shout out to all my SparkleGirlA
top general at SparkleGirlA.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Shout out to all my Sparkle Girls and Spark Boys out
there hey In the world, pop it.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Yeah, bitch, y'all can follow me at SparkleGirlA.

Speaker 4 (01:11):
If you know me, you know me.
If you don't, then you got toget to know me.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Love you Better know it, look, with.
That being said, make surey'all share, like, subscribe,
comment, repost, and if youdon't you a motherfucking hater.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Why?

Speaker 4 (01:25):
Because it's free and if it's free, it's me, you dead
.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
If it's free, I might be in that book, you feel me.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
If it's free, it's me .

Speaker 3 (01:34):
With that being said, you know how we carry it.
You know what I mean.
I want to just say how youdoing today Cash.
What's going on?

Speaker 1 (01:41):
I'm chilling man.
Like I said, I'm at that momentwhere I got to just stay
focused.
I can't let nothing dictatewhat I'm doing and what I see
for myself.
I'm real focused on that rightnow.
That's the best way I could putit.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
With that being said, I want to say you got a lot
ahead of you, bro.
You're in a great, you're in agreat great position right now.
You know I'm saying sometimesstuff going to happen we all got
.
Just pick our head up and justyou know, life be, life, yeah,
be life and bro.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
You know I'm saying yeah saying yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
We just always check on each other, make sure
everybody good before weactually get to sit down and
talk, and that's right.
You know what I'm saying,because people be going through
stuff, you know you never knowyeah, you know what I mean.
So how you doing white boy?

Speaker 2 (02:37):
I'm good man, I mean good day got asia next to me.
We were ready to get thebusiness, you know.
Let let's go.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
How you doing Spark Tasia Spark.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
I feel good, I'm blessed.
I'm blessed and highly favored.
Yes, thank you, lord.
I woke up another day.
A lot of people ain't making ithere today, but I am alive and
I am well.
That's what's up.
Amen, I am alive and I am welland you know, I'm grateful and
I'm humble to be here and I'mfull of life.
So get ready for the energy,because it's here.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
I'm feeling it.
Fire, I'm feeling it.

Speaker 4 (03:10):
Kareem over there laughing.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
Like that's the spark .
Yeah, she over there laughing.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
That's the spark.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
I love it.
I love it.
Yeah, I feel really the most.
I feel like we in them pockets,we actually touching them
events, we actually carrying itthe way we supposed to, we
working on being more consistent, it's time to start knocking on
them doors.
Out here, man, we about tostart knocking on doors.

(03:37):
Man, really the most podcast mein the building.
I mean get used to us.
With that being said how y'allwant to do this.
You want to go ahead and playsomething for Aja Real quick.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
So I'm on live.
Make sure y'all go follow me atSparkleGirlA.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
But somebody told me to shout out.

Speaker 4 (03:51):
Brazil.
So shout out to Brazil, shoutout Brazil, man Sparkle, they
tapped in.
I put really the most podcasts,make sure y'all add somebody to
add.
Add somebody Shout out toBrazil Love you RTMP man Tap in.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
Shout out Brazil.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Before we get into the the pod, we gonna play a
little song.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
I wanna hear a song we gonna play.
Sit Down A single.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
Sit Down, sit Down by your girl.
Asian Spark Exclusive Cause.
I ain't drop it yet, but itain't out yet.
Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, okay,that's yeah, okay, okay, that's
right, let's see.
Uh huh, right now you can rapit On my feet.

(04:37):
Every week we downtown themSouthwest boys Keep you going
out of town Looking for a rideor die In the pack to hold down
the girls standing on business.
You ain't with us.
Sit down, sit down.
If a girl standing on business,sit down, sit down.
If you ain't with us, sit down,sit down sit down.
If a girl standing on businesssit down, sit down, sit down.

(05:00):
What's up, dom Dukes Dom.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
Dukes.

Speaker 4 (05:04):
Dom Dukes, I be with some really pretty, pretty,
pretty pretty girls Chasing thisbread with some water than a
Philly girl, Maybe Jersey girls,Maybe NYC All five girls.
I'm a sparker girl.
Hey, thanks girl.
Yeah, what's up?
Dom Yo, we tapped in.
Dom came on the show.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Yeah, dom, dom was on the I was going to show I
peaked.

Speaker 4 (05:22):
That's my boy, he funny Make sure y'all go follow
Don.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
He was hilarious yeah we got to get Don up there.
Don's hilarious.
I told him that last time I sawhim.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
Got to get him and Marley up there.
That's lit.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
That's lit, that's lit.
We tapped in, we live.
Yeah, y'all All right that was.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
That was Sit Down from Asian Spark Shop.
Up here is my mind, up here I'mon the rise.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
If you spend the blizz, we don't miss every time,
one of a kind, with me.

Speaker 4 (05:49):
You gonna shine, blowing them a kiss because they
wish they was mine.
Sit down.
Sit down the girl standing onbusiness, sit down, sit down.
Yo y'all lit.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
I'm glad they've been going hard for me this whole
time.
I mean shout to you.
Yeah, man, Appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
So you know on really the most.
We do our due diligence up hereand, like you know, I always
wanted to sit down and get yourstory, because it's always.
I always like when I see youmoving and doing your thing, I
see a unique person that's like,that's adamant to go and get

(06:26):
what she see for herself, andyou been that since you came on
the scene.
So I just want the people toknow.
So, asia, where you from, I'mfrom South Philly.

Speaker 4 (06:38):
I'm from South Philly .
I lived in Jersey for a verylong time, back in 2012,.
This is when I did the BET HipHop Cypher.
I was getting interviewed byBET and they said well, what's
one thing you want to inspire?

Speaker 2 (06:51):
And.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
I told them.
I said I want to inspire a newgeneration of hustlers.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Right.

Speaker 4 (06:55):
And so still, that was back when I was 19, 20, and
now I'm 32.
And so, yeah, I still want toinspire people to be a new
generation of hustlers.
Um, I want people to understandthat, um, nobody's gonna
believe in you like you believein yourself no question okay,
and the most important thing youcan do after believing in God

(07:17):
is to believe in yourself.
That's what I believe, right?
Um, I feel like I'm one ofthose people that like, um, oh,
I, that's what I always say.
I always say that talent willget you there, character will
keep you there and that's that'sreal life like yeah you know,
it's a lot of people with a lotof talent, but then they can't
maintain those blessings thatgod do give them so it's like

(07:39):
you know, you got to think, likethe world that we live in today
, you, if the kind of world welive in today, you can't deny
that there's a spirit behindeverything that we do.
And so, knowing that I get allthese good blessings, all these
things come to me, all these uh,people say that I inspire them.
I say it's not through me,because I don't even.
I'm from south philly, how'd Iget here?
Right I don't know how I gothere right.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
I got a gift so, yeah , like I ain't gonna front all
right coming up, coming up insouth philly is hard, like damn
near the whole room from southphilly we.
So we understand thecircumstances that you probably
had to grow up in and it's not.
It's not an easy place to comeup out of and you know, growing
up we be having influences.

(08:19):
So I want to talk about thatbefore we get in a in a few
things like what were a few ofyour influences growing up?
And I ain't really talk aboutmusic, I'm talking about the
people inside your house orright outside the door.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
It was my mother.
It was my mother, my mother.
A lot of people know that mymom was my manager in the first
half of my career.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
So you had a momager.

Speaker 4 (08:38):
I did A momager.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
I had a momager.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
But a lot of the times.
Like you know a lot of people.
I'm one of the oldest.
So I have an older sister, butI'm like a year younger than her
, so everything OK, so y'alllike twins.
Yeah, and my mom, you know shecame up and so my mom's, like my
mom's, struggle it wasn't, Iwouldn't say necessarily a
struggle.
My mom was one of them getmoney girls so it was like we
not gonna struggle.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yeah, we, we gonna struggle with hard work, but we
not gonna struggle we for damnsure ain't gonna look like we
struggling, even if we is.

Speaker 4 (09:11):
Yeah, we ain't going without yeah so, so, um, but
even in that it's a lot ofstruggle, in that it's a lot of
like tired nights, it's a lot oflike okay, everybody, pull
together, do your part so wedon't struggle as a family.
You know what I'm saying.
It ain't about like the captain, it's about everybody.
It's too many what they say,it's too many indians, not
enough chiefs not in myhousehold.

(09:32):
It was like all y'all indians,I'm gonna teach y'all how to be
a chief right, keep up, get goodgrades, do what you got to do,
stay in school.
If you get in trouble, makesure this is how you, this is
how you stay out of trouble.
But if you do get in trouble,this is how you get out of it.

(09:52):
Um, but I, I had a hustlingmother.
That's dope.
I had a hustling mother, I hada praying grandmother and, um
and uh, and I had a prayingmother too.
I had a praying mother too, butmy mom, my mom, was in the
streets a little bit.
And me and my sister, my oldersister, we, we grew with my
mother.
Okay, you know, we grew with mymother and now I see my mother.
She's super successful.
My mother is super, supersuccessful and she's helped give

(10:17):
me the foundation and the toolsand the gems that I need to
become successful in my ownright.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
Yeah, that's dope.

Speaker 4 (10:23):
So I'm going to just give it all to my mom.
And my sister, my sister, myoldest sister that was older
than me by a year because sheheld me down too.
It was just me and her.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Right.

Speaker 4 (10:30):
You know, Strong foundation.
It was me and her and we had tofollow suit, Like it was just
me and her.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
We had little brothers and little sisters
shout out to big sis.
Yeah, so, so, so, with mom andbig and big sis as your
influences and and them beinglike close and you being able to
like see, exactly like whatit's going to take to be a woman
and and be strong and to comeup coming out of south
philadelphia, south philadelphia, now I mean, give me like a few
of your early musicalinfluences, like early on, what
was the soundtrack of your life,like in that time.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
Well, keep in mind, I'm 32, so I'm not that old, but
I do again I have.
I was used to being with mygrandmother.
My mom was like still young, soshe was outside, you know what
I mean, but I was with mygrandmothers and my cousins on
weekends.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
And I'm also.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
I'm a very old soul.

Speaker 2 (11:22):

Speaker 4 (11:23):
I'm talking about mygrandfather in the kitchen
cooking chicken and my grandmacleaning up, folding, doing
laundry, listening to.
Teddy Pendergrass.
We listening to Aretha Franklin.
Anita Baker I meant to sayAnita Baker you know what.
I'm saying Chaka Khan.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
That type of stuff, that soul.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
But my mother, you know, we came up listening, like
you know, back then it used tobe real heavy on like Biggie
Method man back in the day.
You know Wu-Tang, like a lot ofthat, a lot of that like old
school 90s hip hop stuff.
But for me, because I'm so, I'ma millennial, I grew up and I
like things that's good for thesoul.

(11:59):
I used to love Lauryn Hill.
I still love Lauryn Hill.
I'm like a Lauryn.
Hill.
I still love Lauryn Hill.
Okay, I'm like a Lauryn Hilllover.
I used to love.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Eve.

Speaker 4 (12:05):
Okay, eve used to bring oh Eve used to turn us up
on weekends.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
You feel me.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
And then I was also like you know when.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
I was a kid.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
It was funny because I got to work.
It's funny because he's on thescreen right now, but we used to
listen to Young Guns and likeno Better Love Don't stop giving
me your loving.
Yes, that's my shit.
That bring me back.
No Better Love.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
When that came out, I promise you that was my
favorite.
You couldn't tell me I wasn't aYoung Gun back then.
You couldn't tell me I didn'twant a relationship.
I had the whole costume on.

Speaker 4 (12:42):
Yeah, I want a Prada blue.
Rock-a-wear-suit white, nike.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
My niggas like her.
You know what I mean I wantedthat Prada Blue.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
Nah, real talk.
Oh, my bad, I didn't see you,but I was in my bag.
That's how good music do youthough?

Speaker 2 (12:56):
It bring you back to that time.
No, in fact, that was a besttime.

Speaker 4 (13:01):
My niggas, like she, be with me through the grind.
Girl, you better that top likereal wife.

Speaker 2 (13:06):

Speaker 4 (13:07):
So I just, you know that type of stuff.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
So like, OK, so back then when you listening to
Lauryn.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Hill.
State Property you know what?

Speaker 2 (13:16):
I mean Eve, a little bit of Teddy Pendergrass, a
little bit of Anita Baker, likewhen you when you, when you,
that's a good when you're agreat mixer.
I could be a DJ, so like whenyou, when you when you listening
to these people and you comingup to like you thinking that you
would be an entertainer ordoing music like, how early on
was you like music pop up inyour head to for you to go at it

(13:38):
?

Speaker 4 (13:39):
well, it's actually pretty funny because, like I
always tell people, I'm notgonna say music saved my life
now that I'm an adult, but backthen music saved my life Like I
was a sick kid, so I'm a typeone diabetic.
That's what this white thing onthe back of my arm is.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
It's a sensor to check my blood sugar.

Speaker 4 (13:54):
I've been a diabetic since I was nine, so like I was
a double zero, people alwaysused to say that I was anorexic
or like bulimic or I had cancer,just because I had eczema
everywhere and I was reallyskinny.
So like it's funny how I looknow, because I used to be an
ugly duckling back in the day,damn so that's how you felt.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
No, that's how they used to call me lollipop in
school.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
Real shit like oh, excuse me, I'm trying to stop
cursing but they used to call mea lollipop
head, like you feel me, like youknow me, and back, like I laugh
at it now but back then, like Ilaugh at it now but back then.
That was mean, like you know,and I never knew why I was so
skinny.
Come to find out I was sick.
So and that alone was a wholeother thing, because then I'm
like going to school had to hideneedles.
Like I go to the nurse's office, they like they let somebody

(14:36):
see a needle in my bag.
They used to call me a drugaddict, all types of stuff.
I remember I was at the PhillyHip Hop Awards.
I was at the height of mycareer, I won Best Female Artist
and I went to the bathroom andit was this guy that came, like
he was outside the dressing roomand it was this guy and I was
in the bathroom and I took someinsulin and I brought my dancer

(14:58):
with me and I was checking mysugar and he was waiting outside
the bathroom for me.
He was like Asia, let's take apic.
And he like pulled the pic upand was like so I had the deer
in headlights, like the MeekMill's, like.
And so he went on Facebook thenext day and told everybody I
was on heroin sniff coke and Iwas in the bathroom taking
insulin.
But I'm just saying like kidsis mean, like you know, people

(15:18):
are mean.
And so, like the position that Iwas in, no, I never thought
that I would be doing music.
I was alone or I was isolated alot, and so that caused me to
get into my imagination, getinto my creativity, write music.
Write genuine music, aboutanger, about um, about
loneliness.
So a lot of my stuff yeah, I dobe writing about lonely stuff

(15:40):
but honestly it made me fall inlove with hip hop.
I was talking to Teddy Riley hea good friend of mine and you
know he trying not saying toomuch but he wanted to sign me.
We was talking about workingtogether.
Same thing with Cisco from DrewHill.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
Yeah, and a lot of people were saying yeah, you
want to keep name dropping, goahead.
No, I mean we in an interview.

Speaker 4 (16:02):
Ain't nothing to talk about, but me.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
Pop it.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
I was talking to Teddy Riley.
I come to find out I think werelated.
But I was talking to TeddyRiley and I was telling Teddy,
like what he was saying to me,like you know, a lot of people
were saying to me, like Asia,like people say that hip-hop is
dead but they believe that, likeyou know, you, you like the

(16:29):
2024 lauren hill.
A lot of people don't know Ican sing.
Yeah, a lot of people don'tknow I'm a grammy writer, so a
lot of stuff I ain't even put.
I got four albums.
I'm sitting on all this stuffthat you, you didn't see me do
faja these are throwouts.
I don't, I don't got, I didn'tgot, I didn't make money off of
a few mixtapes you speed, yeah,keep running on go right but
listen, let me run.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
I mean, there's plenty to talk about we's plenty
to talk about.
We got plenty to talk about.
I got you, I got you All right.
So look, look, look, lookcoming up right and you're a
type one diabetes, so you haveto deal with that.
That's like a whole notherthing outside of you even like
thing.
And to do music.
So, like, even before, theprocess of you even thinking to
do music come about like, like.

(17:07):
Was it the process of you eventhinking to do music come about
like, like.
Was it a process of you evenmaintaining your health?

Speaker 4 (17:12):
to even yeah do the music yeah, a lot of people
don't know.
That's why I walked away frommy deal with kevin lowes.
Like I had a deal with kevinlowes he was the vice president
of def jam at the time and um, alot of the things that I would
let him know that I was readyfor, it always felt like it was
like, oh, you're not ready yet,Like all these opportunities

(17:33):
come, I'm just gonna take themas they come.
Like a lot of people don't know, I was supposed to be on the
same Love Hip Hop with Cardi B,season six Me, my mom, my sister
.
I had a boyfriend at the time.
They wanted him on Love Hip Hop.
We did it.
Mona Scott, they wanted to breakmy music like K Michelle.
Mona Scott had a meeting withKev and then all of a sudden
everything didn't go through andso at the time I'm like, damn,

(17:55):
I'm a diabetic.
I got to take care of all thesepeople.
I got five dancers, I got alive band.
We got live shows.
Every other week Just flew toCalifornia to do a 106 BET hip
hop site, for the fly back toopen up a little camp and I'm
paying these people out ofpocket or out of the money that

(18:16):
I make from my shows and I'mmoving like a whole staff
independently.
And so it got to that pointwhere it was like kinda like
Summer Walker.
They said they had to pay herto stop working.
Like that was me like and Ifound myself being tired.
I went to nursing school.
I graduated nursing school.
I was in nursing school when Iwas doing 106 in park.
I was studying for my NCLEXwhile I was on my way to 106 in

(18:38):
park back in the day and, likeyou know, a lot of people don't
know like school is expensive to.
I'm still paying on my studentloans.
You feel me like?

Speaker 3 (18:48):
Like real red light really went to nursing school.
Let's go a little bit beforethat, though, cuz I want to talk
about, like how you really likealright, cuz, like it's a lot
boy.

Speaker 4 (19:03):
Yeah, I'm sorry.
No, it's cool, we got you, Igot you I ain't finna move small
though, but it is a lot, it'sheavy.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
I got you.
I got you, though, you gonnahandle it All right.
So, look, you tore the game upin a good 10-year span.
You had this shit in thechokehold, and we gonna get into
that right now, like all right,so and that, and that time you
probably like build your name upto to be like one of the

(19:30):
hottest females to come up outof philly, and in the midst of
you doing that, you landedyourself a deal, right, or or
the management, uh it was amanagement man.
I was independent the whole time, that's great Management deal
with Kevin Louse, yeah, allright.
So before all of that, right, Iwant to talk about like the BET
freestyle, like how'd you evenget to that, the Faja, let's get

(19:53):
to that, let's get to theselike pinnacle moments of your
career that had that kind ofshaped you to even get the
management deal All right,smooth.

Speaker 4 (20:03):
So, like back in the day, everybody used to like this
is right, before like socialmedia really started to take off
and like twitter and I had, um,I had this song.
I could always rap, right, butlike I would go in and out of
studios and people didn't wantme there because I was a woman.
It was real weird.
And then I did this song, um,and I rapped it, and back then
we was with wale on tour withthe Ambitious Girls, right, we

(20:26):
was just because, again, I'msurrounded by a bunch of women,
so we always just come throughwith a bunch of women and I play
my song Sparkle Girl, cypherfor Wale, and Wale gave me the
idea for the music video and hewas like you should get a bunch
of girls with different shirtson everybody with the same shirt
on the.
You always out with the girls,like.
So we shot the video, um, then,like 24 hours, I just went ham,

(20:48):
it was like 17 hours, 17 hours.
I went ham, tweeting everybodytweet, tweet, tweet, tweet,
tweet.
And then 50 cent had wrote meback and said this is nice and
then next, you know, all the 50cent fans jumped on me right so
this was in a matter of 20 well,17 hours, but then when I woke
up the next morning, I found outthat 50 cent had reposted it,
then fat joe, then trina.

(21:09):
It was like a.
It was like a chain reaction oflike, and I can't take none of
the credit for it had to be godhow it happened.
It was like 24 hours, 24 hours,and then um, after that, um,
you know, I did this competitionfor Powerhouse.
It was me and a couple otherwomen.
Now her name is Tierra Whack.

(21:30):
She used to go by Dope Dizzle.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
That's my girl, though I knew her when she was
like 15.

Speaker 4 (21:34):
Super dope, we doing shows and ain't nobody in the
crowd type.
You know, what I mean.
Now.
We on tour, we doing stuff, andyou know people in the crowd.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
So it feels good.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
I love to hear a wig, but it used to be me, her and
and, and it would be a lot ofother females that that's coming
up in the game.
And so what was?
What was crazy was Charlie Mac,my mom, my mom at the time oh,
I saw, I won powerhouse.
I did powerhouse.
I got off the stage atpowerhouse, charlie Mac, and I

(22:03):
did powerhouse.
I got off the stage atpowerhouse, charlie Mack, and
shout out to Charlie Mack, man,I keep telling my mom I sit down
with my mom, charlie, if youlisten to this, come help me,
manage me.
Come help me manage.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
Shout out Charlie Mack.
Man Shout out.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
Charlie Mack, because it was crazy, because it was
always like we was always sideby side, but Charlie Mack always
helped me.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
Tell me something good about Charlie Mack.

Speaker 4 (22:23):
Tell me something good about Charlie Mack.
Charlie Mack always helped me.
Charlie Mack was always the one.
He always believed in me and itwas crazy.
He'd be like yo, asia should bedoing a BET Hip Hop Cypher Call
, asia should be doing this Call.
It'd be like that, just on thestrength.
That's the reason why I wasdoing the BET Hip Hop Cypher.
He's like yo tell Kevin to callBET Hip Hop Cypher.

(22:46):
Because me and my mom waslearning as we went along.
We had a book from Mick JaggerMick Jagger Manager called
Everything you Need to KnowAbout the Music Business.
I promise you get it.
It'll help you 100%.
It'll help you make money.
It'll help you make money onpublishing.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
I agree.

Speaker 4 (23:07):
Make money off your songs.
How you making money.
How much managers should get?
Give it to them againEverything you need to know
about the music industry, andit's by Mick Jagger's manager.
That's the best thing, and I'mnot getting paid for it.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
I just got it.
I forget who else we wastalking to.
They also brought that book upDonnie C, donnie C.

Speaker 4 (23:19):
Yeah, go get that book.
And I used that book and me andmy mom read it and we highlight
it and as we kept going alongin our careers, people don't
even know I had to deal withMeek Mill back in the day on the
table.
Walked off from thatrespectfully.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
You walked away from a few deals.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
A lot of deals, a lot of deals, and even still to
this day.
It's funny because I've beengetting calls from, like Def Jam
, interschool, but but a lot ofpeople don't.
I can't say too much.
I can't say too much but but I,but I like the independent, me
I don't want, I don't even thinkthat I want a label, and they
know it.
They know it, so they know whenthey come for me they gotta
give me a label deal, becausethey know that how I'm coming
right.
Even even people have peoplereaching out to me asking me to
manage them and I'm like, well,damn, like I gotta manage you,

(24:01):
then I gotta myself.
A lot of people don't know, youknow I've been doing, I've been
doing acting, movie productionand films for the last 10 years
and I don't have an agent.
I don't have an agent.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
I've done so you land , you landed, you landed every
role you ever acted and youlanded it.

Speaker 4 (24:18):
Yeah, either either I audition or I, either I did.
Remember I told you talent toget you there.
Character, keep you there.
No question, I landed a lot ofthose roles from my music.
But um, but I'm also when Ishow up like if you, if you're
in the acting world in Philly,you know everything is small.
So like um, for me it was likeI did extra work on Creed 1.
They called me back um becauseI was so pleasant on Creed 1.

(24:42):
For Creed 2, you didn't.
You can you see me in Creededone?
But I had short hair.
Creed two I was just in thereworking with felicia rashad.
That was like my tv mom back inthe day.
So for me I was, I was, I was,uh, working with felicia rashad
and sylvester stallone.
I was the one and she probablygonna deny it we got our own
story about this, but I was theone that taught tessa thompson
how to say joan.
So, but we got our own story,though, with the Michael B

(25:04):
Jordan and all that.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
We got.

Speaker 4 (25:05):
We got our own story about that but like you know,
but I like Tessa, that's my girlbut um, and shout out to
Michael B too.
Then, from there, those samepeople everybody's so busy,
worried about this main stars,they need to be worried about
the people that's walking aroundwith the walkie talkies on
their hips and everybody unionthere and those people know when
the next job is.
So I did Creed 1, creed 2.

(25:25):
From there, they called me todo Netflix Unbreakable, kimmy
Schmidt.
From there they called me to doMade in Chinatown with the
Sopranos and the cast of Kung FuHustle.
Then from there, those samepeople, like, a year later went
by, got in good with, likeRaymond Barry from Flubber and
all them.
They, like my uncles, italianuncles, got in from them.
And then those same people hey.

(25:46):
Asia HBO.
I'm break uh pause with Sam Jay.
They're doing a show Comethrough, come be in it.
I just did a movie with AmariHardwick.
I played a cop, but it's calledFells High.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (25:58):
I did another film I just produced another movie.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
Yeah, Moop is in that movie?

Speaker 1 (26:03):
yeah, yep, uh, tj adams uh a lot of people was
cashing that, no, no uh, Iwanted to ask you something,
though, like because you waspopping it, I had to just let
you know you can't stop it.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
I had to let you pop it I promise, so there's a lot
of.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
There's people out here that you know ain't even
going through certain adversityand they having a hard time,
like chasing a dream or gettingthings done.
And you, as a person who goingthrough something, you can't
even control it, since you wasnine years old you can't even

(26:45):
control what you're goingthrough, but you're still
pushing through to do what youwant and what you want to
accomplish.
You're doing it.
So I want you to explain someof the things like your
strategies and your methods ofpushing through and still
getting things done, becausepeople might want to hear it.

(27:06):
It's somebody going throughstuff like that right now that's
going to watch this interview.
You know what I'm saying, sowhat's some of the things that
you do to like?

Speaker 4 (27:14):
I know I'm going through this, but I got to keep
pushing like Okay, well, firstof all, thank you for your, for
your, for your consideration.
Thank you for listening to that, because a lot of people don't
understand when you're in aposition of that they don't
understand that, theresponsibility that it comes
with um.
But I'm gonna just say this amethod of mine is always prayer.
I don't care what I do, I don'tcare what I go through, I gotta

(27:37):
pray.
I don't care, I gotta staygrounded in my spiritual faith.
I have to because without thatit would be no more redemption.
This I'm in my spiritual faith.
I have to Because without thatit would be no more redemption.
I'm in my redemption season.
Everything that I'm doing, likeI lost it all and I'm getting
it back.
But I'm like, how am I gettingit back?
And everything workingbackwards.
That's God, that's Christ,thank you.
Everything is working backwardsand I ain't got no, I ain't got

(27:58):
no.
But what I'm doing is sometimesyou got to cooperate.
I believe I'm a full believerin the holy spirit.
You gotta cooperate with theholy spirit.
Everything around you will tellyou what you need to do.
Yeah, you tired you, youexhausted.
Yeah, maybe you need to getsome sleep, but, most
importantly, maybe you need toprioritize your spiritual life
yeah what you, what you, whatyou driving your energy into
yeah what voices you listeningto.

(28:21):
I'm like, remember I told youI'm isolated a lot.
So that's been happening sinceI was nine.
I was always a loner.
I was like isolating a lot.
Don't underestimate the powerof isolating being still hearing
God voice, please don'tunderestimate it.
And I still be having moments.
I'm like all right, lord, wegoing into isolation again.
Excuse me, damn Damn we goingback into isolation.

(28:42):
I be lonely Cause that's thehardest thing is to deal with
your own stuff.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
Like I gotta use it.

Speaker 4 (28:48):
I gotta use my analogy, forgive me.
I always say when you gothrough things, this is my
analogy.
When I go through things, it'slike my foot is stuck in shit
and I can't move and you justdon't know which way to go.
You just lost.
And then when you decide, Idon't want to live like this, no
more.
You got to decide for yourself.
You don't want to live likethis.
You got to decide for yourself.
I'm not going to be a victim.
I'm going to be a victor.

(29:09):
I'm not going to be a victim.
I'm not going to allow what theworld tried to do to me to kill
, steal and destroy my life.
You got to protect that witheverything that you have.
And that's why, right now, thismission right here, is personal
.
It it's personal.
Every morning I wake up, I belike you know what you already
know on your day to day.
You know people going to try tocause I still got it like you

(29:29):
know a nine to five On your dayto day people going to try to
destroy you On your day to day.
They're going to try to put youdown On a day to day.
They're going to make me feelsmall when I'm out here just
trying to do my best.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
Yeah, you know that that's the people.
For you, though, yeah, that'sthe people.

Speaker 4 (29:50):
But if you're not prioritizing if you really got
to prioritize that, though, yougot to prioritize protecting
your gift Facts and was at thetop I'm talking about picture
next to Beyonce and Jay-Z andthen vroom at the bottom with
nothing.
So look, had to grow that allback, so real quick.

(30:12):
What I wanted to tell y'all isprioritize God.
But most importantly, I'm goingto tell you something Be
careful.
Watch the words you feedyourself.
Even if you got, you make it,tell yourself that you are a
winner, tell yourself that youare succeeding and I know
sometimes it's easier said thandone, because some days I don't
feel like that.
Some days I don't feel likethat, but you got to surround
yourself with people thatbelieve in you, even if it's one

(30:32):
person, even if it's one personthat feeds you life.
Be mindful of the people thatfeed you life when you ain't got
much Right, because some peopleare Some people still around?

Speaker 2 (30:41):
That's all I'm going to say.
You deep, I like you.
I'm so deep you be kicking it,but listen.
So look what I noticed right asyou coming out and you moving
through your career that youembrace your sexuality.
And you know, like you don'tmind showing a little skin on
camera.
And like I know, like by yousaying, like you was the ugly

(31:04):
duckling growing up, like Ireally wouldn't thought, like
you said we wouldn't havethought that because, like, when
we see you, you always lookbeautiful, like talk, talk about
embracing your sexuality, likebeing one of those entertainers
or rappers that embrace yoursexuality, all right.

Speaker 4 (31:19):
Well, I've been trying to get a little better at
that, because a lot of peopledon't know.
For the last three years I'vebeen celibate For real, for real
, for real.
So lately it's been again.
It's been a battle between myflesh and my spirit.
And is it funny?
Is that funny why?

Speaker 3 (31:36):
is it so funny?
I'm telling the truth, it'sjust some real deep.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
But I know like fuck no three years.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
That's a long time.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
No, it's just like that he, he hears stuff like
that fuck no, three years,that's a long time no, it's not
a long time when you're lookingat your options.

Speaker 4 (31:48):
Okay, it's not a long time when you're looking at
your options.
It's not a long time when youwork, when you work that hard to
find your worth and become likereal right it's not that hard
when you've worked very hard tobecome the woman that you, or
the woman or the man that youare, and you realize that the
reason why you've lost thatperson was because you got
distracted by loving the wrongperson.
Ugh.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
Come on, Karima, you over here, I hear you uh-huh
Like come on, Some people don'trealize that stuff until it's
like later in life.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
It goes for both ways .

Speaker 3 (32:17):
No, both ways though You're hitting it on the nose.
So I feel like you got to knowwhen it's time to readjust
yourself.

Speaker 4 (32:27):
Or rebrand.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
Rebrand, however you want to put it.

Speaker 4 (32:31):
And this is why I made a vow, this is why I
stopped.
I transitioned from doing filmto music Because, once I
realized that a lot of peoplewanted to give me sexual we call
them honeypot roles, I decidedyou know what, asia, you, you
gotta stop doing movies now,because now they're exploiting
you and do things.
Take your power back, take yourpower back and do things in
your own way.
And so even now for me, likeback then, even, like you know,

(32:55):
at that time, when you see mewith some clothes on, whatever
I'm, so I model, like I modelfor swim week.
I ran for Miss USA this year,for Miss New Jersey.
I was a state finalist for MissNew Jersey and we have swimwear
competitions.
Like butt, cheeks be out, titsbe out, and so I don't think
that there's nothing wrong withshowing yourself, but I have to

(33:18):
respect the fact.
On Sundays, like, I have tostill keep my faith and respect
the Sabbath, and like covermyself up.
And then, as I get older, I'mlike I start to want keep my
faith and respect the Sabbathand like cover myself up.
And then, as I get older, I'mlike I start to have one, to
have children.
Now, like you know, slowingdown a little bit, I kind of
want to slow down.
When you've lived a fast life,like me, it's like you start to
value the little things.
You start to value the slowthings, like I used to be

(33:39):
outside at a very young age.
And now it's like you know, Ikind of just I don't want to, no
offense, like respect, allrespect, all respect, but I
don't want to be pregnant onstage, happen to have thing to
work to make my money and makemy ends meet.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
I kind of just want to be pregnant with my feet up
and walking on my plush carpetand just like money to like say
I'm doing this though, damn, I'ma rapper right now.
You just was rapping with theelites.
You just had Speedo.
Who else was in that room?
It was four other elite rappers.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
It was.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
Dice Raw.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
Dice Raw Vodka, speedo Vodka, what?

Speaker 3 (34:18):
And you rapping in a cypher with them.
Type of dudes.
I was the only female in thatone, that's what I'm saying,
Like how it feel to even know,like you in that room, as a
rapper.

Speaker 4 (34:30):
I felt good because of all the flowers.
I felt good because of all theflowers.
It wasn't like they was justlike.
I get a lot of flowerseverywhere I go.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
If you don't know, my face.

Speaker 4 (34:38):
You know my name.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
So you dope, so you're a dope individual.
You're a dope, so that's Godgiven.
So at the end of the day, youjust gotta embrace what God gave
you and push that.
See like we get into thebusiness and sometimes we get

(35:02):
sidetracked by these devices andwhat people say, but at the end
of the day it's all about howyou feel and what you really
think, like what people saythose small celebrations count
too, man, but you celebrateyourself.
Yeah, celebrate yourself I didthat, I did that, I did that and
I'm doing that, and I did itfor myself right.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
You see what I'm saying.
Like you just said some thingsthat I know rappers in this city
wish they could.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
Be no, you accomplished it like you,
accomplished, accomplish thingsthat I watch rappers try to
accomplish for 20 years,seriously, seriously, like you,
it's like you do it easily.
So for so, like, like you gotit is there, acknowledge it and
and and push it to the world.
And like the best way of doingthat is giving them the best

(35:48):
feeling.
And, like you know, I did thatfor me and it feel good.
When I did it, it felt good.

Speaker 4 (35:54):
To God be the glory yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
All the time.

Speaker 4 (35:58):
And another thing is you can't really say you chosen
if you ain't never questionedthe calling on your life, if you
ain't never questioned it andsay, dang, why did I do this?
I had a moment like that and itwas crazy because my mom I used
to quit all the time.
Back in the day I quit.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
It was crazy because my mom I used to quit all the
time back in the day I quit.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
This is too hard, I quit.
Yeah, this is the stuff.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
I want here right here.

Speaker 4 (36:18):
So my mom was like you better make a choice.
You better make a choicebecause you can't just keep
going and quitting, because I'mhelping you and I'm putting
money behind you.
You ain't going to play with mymoney, yeah, mom.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
Dukes wasn't playing.

Speaker 4 (36:28):
You going to quit or to it.
I'm gonna stick to it and thennow so now but years later I
tell people yeah, I was crazy,I'm a little bit, it's a little,
it has to be a little bit ofinsanity.
Because if you see all thatI've sacrificed, meaning like I
don't have children, you knowthat's something that I really
want.
I say I don't have, I'm not amother, but I'm a mother of many
and and god has blessed me withthat like I got a citation from

(36:48):
the city of philadelphia, um,for my community service and my
dedication to the youth.
I'm more of a big sister.
That's the only reason why Iran for Miss USA is so I can be
able to all of my initiativesand all of the funding that I
was putting.
I've done a lot of work withthe Horticultural Society.
A lot of people don't know.
When Walter Wallace got killed,I brought in like 100,000

(37:09):
people.
I had Black Lives Matter andUntil Freedom with Samika Maury.
They was all I.
I had Black Lives Matter andUntil Freedom with Samika Mowry.
I was in the middle.
Like who invited all thesepeople into the city?
And they like this girl, asiaSparks.
Like who is this girl, asiaSparks?
I'm on the phone with people,certain people, government
people and they like who is thisgirl that brought all these
people into the city, all on acall to action.

(37:33):
And so I wear a lot of hats.
And I said you know what, I'm afollower of Christ.
And I said you know, I got tostop trying to destroy
everything.
I just need to start in theword it says you know, I'm not
here to destroy, I'm here tofulfill.
And so I became.
I became that and I said youknow, I'm a rough from this USA,
I don't want to destroy nothing, I just want to fulfill I want
to fulfill whatever, whateverthe purpose or whatever callings

(37:53):
on my life.
That clearly is something,because I, even when I quit and
I tried to do a regular job,like I for real I quit, I tried
to have a regular job going tonine to five.
It did not work.
God was like oh you thinkyou're gonna run?

Speaker 2 (38:06):
get over here, get back to it, and it was like that
.

Speaker 4 (38:09):
It'd be really like that it'd be like that and he'll
put your back up against a wallwhere you're kind of forced to
do it make your decision andain't gonna make no decision
with god.
It's like either you gonna doit or life gonna get real hard,
and I didn't want my life hard.
I'm like all right this is hard, but life without it is way
harder.
This is hard, this career ishard.
I might not have everythingthat I want.

(38:30):
This career is mad hard, butlife without it is harder.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
Tell me um, no, tell me how I was uh working with uh
Neve Buck.

Speaker 4 (38:38):
Oh, that's my brother , that's my brother, I got a
banger.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
That's like a forever banger.
A jack in a box that jack in abox is a forever banger.

Speaker 4 (38:45):
Neve, ne, the music stuff.
You feel me Like.
Neif is like my brother.
Um, we, we we've had.
I gotta send you some picturestoo, but we on my birthday, my
28th birthday, I was like I justwant to feel young again.
I didn't invite it like 50people to six flags.
Neif had came out, neif alwayscoming to me like if I'm, if I
got a premiere and I might dosomething intimate at my house

(39:08):
with all my family, neif willcome through.
That's my brother, for real.
That's my brother and I'm justreally like, just really
appreciative.
He actually hit me up to doJack in the Box.
He like you know I need thisvoice on Jack in the Box and I
need you to put your thing onthere or whatever, when you go
into the studio.
So I told him I'm at the studionow Because I used to stay
there and he hit me up andthat's probably one of Listen.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
I told you off camera .
I'm thorough, so I'll tell youon camera.
This is really the moose that'syour pocket.
Yeah, what the I'm telling youthat Jack in the Box pocket Baby
.
My number don't mean you get inthis box.
That's your pocket.

Speaker 4 (39:43):
Let me get a new watch couple, Chanel bags and a
full lift box.
My ass sitting right beneaththe gym doing squats.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
I got a Jack in the Box.
I'm telling you, jack in theBox, that's just that pocket for
you.
Philly's got that record andthat's like what nine, 10 years
ago.
Look at what they talk aboutnow.

Speaker 4 (39:58):
Yeah, they still love that record.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
Like look at the sexy reds, the glues, the green, and
I ain't gonna lie, that's wheremy next question was coming in
at.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
Like you know, hip hop 50 years old.
Ever since it was created, fora long time it'd be like they
only let one or two women in.
It wouldn't be never a timewhere Rob.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
Markman, Everybody hitting the lid, all the women.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
Rob Markman.
It ain't the time where theylet more than three to four
women be at the top.
All the women is at the top,like all the women.
That's in the game.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
They, they the ones running it.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
So I was going to ask you like what you think changed
, like with that, like what you,what you think as a woman,
change for it to be like, y'allget took more serious, uh, and
y'all able to like outdo the men, like, like um, it was.

Speaker 4 (41:02):
It was a lot that changed.
I think the mindset, first ofall the, the mindsets of the
women that were on top.
Back then it was like nah, Ican't share this it wasn't just
like it wasn't just like theindustry, cause it was the
industry, but some of them womendidn't want to share.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (41:17):
Until some, until some women made them share um, a
lot of that and I, I ain'tgonna lie, I will give uh, I'm
going to give Cardi B the creditfor that.
I respect Cardi B that much.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
Damn, I respect Cardi B that much.

Speaker 4 (41:33):
Damn not Nicki.
No, nothing against Nicki.
I give Cardi B that.
That's why Cardi B gets so muchrespect and she ain't even got
to push out that much musicBecause, cardi, you notice,
every person that get on Cardi Bput up like Cardi B will hop on
any female track, glorilla,lotto, like she.
You know.
And for so long I'm not gonnasay, I'm not gonna say nikki's,
not that either, nikki, nikki,nikki, show love.

(41:53):
But what I what I will say isis that it took, it took cardi b
.
It took cardi b to really pushthrough the game and really she
dealt with a brunette, thoughshe did, she dealt with a
brunette, the brunette stuff,and that's what they want.
You know, as some of theselabels, they'll put you up
against certain people.
They'll still sit you there inthe rooms.
I've been in plenty of them.
They'll sit you there in therooms.
I've been in plenty of them.
They'll sit you there in theroom and be like, oh, she might

(42:14):
got a chance at running againsther.
That's how they come.
It can only be one.
That's how they come.
I've been in those rooms and Ihated that.
I absolutely hated that.
I've been in those rooms.
I don't like it and they expectit.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
Yeah, no, I don't like it, so I ain't going to
hold you right.
You said something earlierabout songwriting.
You know, is you heavy in thatfield, or it was just like a
couple?

Speaker 4 (42:43):
Real heavy.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
Real, heavy Real heavy.

Speaker 4 (42:45):
Yeah, I'm a writer for Grammy Phi.
With the Grammy Foundation,it's like they got different
associations, so they got GrammyChi, grammy Phi, grammy Chi,
like California, and so I'vebeen a part of Grammy Phi since
2012,.
I believe.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
How you go about doing something like that.

Speaker 4 (43:04):
Oh, they got the office right down there by Rec
Philly right there downtown.
You go up in there and you tellthem that you want to write,
and you show them I got invited.
I don't know the process, butif you go on their website
Grammy, grammy Association,grammy-fi you go and you pay
your dues, and I spoke on a lotof Grammy panels with Jalo Beatz

(43:25):
and Pop Winslow.
Pop Winslow, I did that.
That was a long time ago,though, but I used to do that
too.
I'm looking at the screen,y'all.
This is the John 16 of BetterIdea with Sue Surf.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
Jack Thriller.
That's what I'm saying.
You rap with a lot of eliterappers.

Speaker 4 (43:42):
That's what it is Jack Thriller, my guy.
We just did the Reloaded John.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
That's what I'm saying, Listen with everything
that you did in your career.
That's far right.
Most of it has been independent.

Speaker 4 (44:01):
Everything has been independent.
Everything, everything, so likeIncluding my acting, I don't
have an agent.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
So like moving forward, god's word Moving
forward out here, like that'show you continue to want to move
as independent, I think so, Ithink so, I think so.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
What would it take for you to sit down with
somebody?

Speaker 4 (44:23):
A lot of money.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (44:27):
Because you're not just buying a rapper, you're
buying a singer, you're buying asongwriter, you're buying a
movie director, a movie producer, a principal actress, and
you're buying a, a, a woman witha personal brand, a
humanitarian side, someone whohas ran for miss usa.
You're buying someone who notonly does acting, but also can

(44:48):
film her own movies in 2020, in2020, back when covid happened,
when everybody was inside, I wasoutside, and so we were filming
movies.
That's one thing, because theywould stick that thing up your
nose every time you would film amovie.
So I was working, and I waskind of grateful for COVID,
because I felt like the worldwas moving so fast and I was

(45:08):
moving slow, and I was like Lord, I need to catch up to the
world, and he slowed it right ondown.
They was like Lord, I need tocatch up to the world, and he
slowed it right on down.
They was inside.
I was outside working.
Yeah, oh, this is my chance,I'm out, I'm out, I'm running
fast, fast, fast.
Yeah, I did like five moviesduring COVID, damn, and so what

(45:35):
the heck was I saying, though?
But what I wanted to say was isthat, like, all I gotta do is
catch the right play I got.
I got nine scripts that I'mcurrently writing um.
I got a lot of mentors, too, umthe executive producer upon.
I used to live in california.
I did.

Speaker 3 (45:42):
I did a show called double cross um I was pretty
much was talking about like howmuch it'll take you to sit down
yeah, I know, but I'm gonna tellyou why you did a lot so I did
a show called double cross Cross.

Speaker 4 (45:52):
It was the number one show on All Black Network and
WE tv and it's out.
Now it's on season three,episode 11.
So doing Double Cross, doingthat, I met a lot of people.
I met Preston Whitmore he wasthe director and the writer of
this Christmas, one of theexecutive producer of Punk Bezo

(46:14):
Shout out to him, he owns BobMarley Kent papers and
billionaire hemp ribs.
And then Marcus Polk.
Marcus Polk was my ex-boyfriend.
Oh Damn, did I really telleverybody?
But, sorry more and I justdidn't want to go to Arizona
like that was my, that was myex-boyfriend who miles, the airs
, the mouse, he don't care.

(46:34):
He wanted to marry me, so Idon't care, so I don't care.
He know what time it is.
I could call him right now hegoing to pick up.
He know what time it is, butthat's my boy, though.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
We past that stage Like that's my ace.

Speaker 4 (46:50):
So what I'm saying is these are the people that I
like learned under.
Then I went to go sit down withSpike Lee and I sat with Spike
Lee and I gave them all of mylike you know my ideas and not
gave it to them, but I sat downwith them knowing that I have 50
Cent Like, knowing that I know50 Cent and that I can get to 50
Cent, like it's nothing Withall of these things that I'm

(47:10):
building and producing.
I'm saying do I need a label?
No, I don't.
All I got to do Spike Lee toldme if you got 25,000, you can
shoot your movie and as long asyou got one star, you can sell
it for 3.5 to 5.5 milliondollars.
Not to mention we're not talkingabout movies, though let's talk
about, because that's a hardergame, but let's talk about TV
shows.

(47:31):
You could take a nobody andmake it, make them famous If
it's a good script.
Difference is, if Spike Leetells me I could take 25,000,
make 2.5 to $5.5 million, whywould I need a label?
Correct, oops, I don't.
I got my own brand.
I have multiple businesses.
I got a party rental business.

(47:51):
I got an event business.

Speaker 3 (47:52):
I own two nursing agencies, family businesses.
So you got to back yourselfyourself.

Speaker 4 (47:55):
for real, for real, not really though, because as
much as I'm trying to do, asmuch, like Biggie said, more
money, more problems.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (48:03):
Way more problems than it is money.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
You hear me.

Speaker 4 (48:06):
Way more problems than it is money.
So that's, but again you got tomove with the times.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
When.

Speaker 4 (48:12):
COVID happened and everybody had a restaurant.
Everybody's shit shut down andain't nobody have no other way.
We from South Philly, what doyou do?
You find another hustle.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
Pivot.

Speaker 4 (48:21):
If my business isn't doing well with certain things,
what do you do?
Pivot, you take it and you dosomething different with it.
You got to know the times thatyou in and when you start to see
a shift, and my mom told methis if you start to see a shift
in your business, you need tofind another avenue in that same
business or how you can do ityou go from dining in to

(48:43):
deliveries.
Okay, you feel me okay so, so,yeah, I'm not, I'm not rich.
You feel me and who's to saybut I not rich?
But at the end of the day, I amrich because my mindset I'm not
rich, but I'll never be broke,right, you feel what I'm saying?
I'm not rich, but I'll never bebroke.

(49:03):
That's why we say we rich, wenot rich, but we'll never be
broke.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
What's that line you be saying, white boy, I'm rich
already.
We just short on cash.
There we go.

Speaker 4 (49:12):
I'm not rich, but I'll never be broke.
I'm definitely wealthy, though.
I'm definitely wealthy yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
Definitely I ain't going to man, like I always say
man, black woman is a beautifulthing.
You feel me?
Because like even the stuffy'all go through on a daily

(49:39):
basis, like, for example, likeyou being in the music industry,
the stuff that women go throughin the music industry and the
actor industry, and then y'allgot to come outside and face
adversity, like everywhere, likefrom every angle.
You know women, period, face it, but black women it's just a
little more and we know why.

(50:01):
But for you to be able to like,do that and have a catalog you
have and song write and play amovie, then you might be looking
at it a different way becauseit's you doing it yeah, but you
tremendous for real.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
Yeah, that's shit on another level though, because a
lot of people have problemsdoing one thing you feel me.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
Facts.
So it's like you doing all that, so, like we, we don't go
unnoticed with us, because we,we know certain stuff and we
think a certain way.
People don't think.
But with that being said,though, um it's hard.

Speaker 4 (50:39):
Yo pay attention to hard work.
No, it's hard.
Yeah, it's hard and um somedays.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
I'm at the point of exhaustion.

Speaker 4 (50:42):
Yeah, it's hard, yeah , it's hard, and some days I'm
at the point of exhaustion.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (50:47):
It's hard, so what keep you going?

Speaker 2 (50:50):
God.

Speaker 4 (50:52):
God and I promise you that I'm in my Bible multiple
times a day.
I go to church three times aweek.
I'm an usher at church, notbecause I'm religious, but
that's how much I love God.
That's how much I love God, Ilove God.
I love God so much.
I love him so much I love God, Idon't love him for the things
that he's done for me.
I love God Because wheneverybody left me for dead,

(51:17):
that's why I said ingenerational curses I don't know
if y'all seen that, jordan, Iwas like all those generational
curses.
Tell me, was it worth itbreaking down your sons and
daughters?
That won't make them perfect.
Wanting them to be you insteadof their own person got them
following the leader, idolizingworship on the path to
destruction, blind, leading theblind.
We trust in ourselves insteadof trusting god.
We neglect our health, wealth,self and then we die, taking our
dreams with us because wedidn't try.

(51:38):
And even if we did, the hurtstill ain't subside.
Because every time we neededhelp we got pushed to the side.
And and every time I vented,you just spread it and lied,
told the truth false, admittedon the phone.
I cried, I had to face my fears.
The shame made me hide.
I was feeling insecure from allyour names and smiles, told me
to grow up, but I grew up indenial.
I thought love would lift myspirits, but it broke me down.

(51:59):
I got creative.
No one hears it.
I gave up my sound Head downand no one noticed.
I stopped coming around,depressed, stressed, upset,
wasn't even my style, but theyleft me for dead.
I'm alive.
Underground Strongholds had mebound, but I'm free from it now,
sobered up.
Dirt was stuck past her roundand round like a merry-go-round,
but the light I found.
I jumped into that waterpurposely trying to drown, but

(52:20):
Christ picked me up and thengave me my crown.
I done, learned so many lessons, sermons on the mounts.
It was death to my flesh.
I walk in spirit now.
Now I got so many blessings Ican't even count, don't listen
to the chatter because I blockthem out, my pockets getting
fatter and I like my pounds andthey got no guidance, just like
Chris Brown.
But I see right through themlike an ultrasound.

(52:47):
Now I got my sound back from theimpound just to announce that
hurt people, hurt people can'tgo it out, but healing is
necessary.
In your house, my head facingnorth, so we don't go down south
.
A family who pray together,stay together.
A family who face the weather,hell of heaven.
Seek wisdom in the word or fromthis letter.
If we could see through it,we'd be much better.
Those generational curses, tellme, was it worth it?
I ain't gonna keep on going,but I got.

(53:11):
I got four albums and a lot ofthe things that people see.
They.
They see the singles of meturning up and everything just
because I want to see whatpeople into.
But I gotta.
I got albums where I'mdiscussing that pain, the pain
that I went through, the healingthat I went through, what it
took for me to go through thatRight and God got me through
that and I don't think ofanything else.
You know how hard it was tosober up for me Like I'm with

(53:34):
someone that was like I'm atSouth by Southwest.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (53:37):
And you know.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
Let's talk about it.

Speaker 4 (53:40):
You know drinking drugs, all of that Right and I'm
not ashamed of it no more.
Thank you, Christ, he took myshame away.
I can talk about it nowsomebody.
People come to me all the timelike how you do it right how you
sober up.
You know how many people I knowthat can't function without it.
I know because I was one ofthem.
Hello, I was dependent on it.
Like I was, I couldn't function, I would snap out, I couldn't.

(54:04):
I couldn't deal with real, Icouldn't deal with real life.
I couldn't deal with real lifestuff because of my affliction.
And we all go through it.
And now that I'm sober Irealize I was doing it for a
reason.
I'm not just smoking because itfeel good to me.
I'm doing it for a reason.
I'm not just drinking becauseit feel good to me.
I'm doing it for a reason why.

(54:25):
So I got down with it.
I said God, what we doing.
He said you want what I got foryou?
Give it up.
He ain't take it from me.
He said give it up.
And I'm like all right, Ipromise it's the last one.
He like got my Bible I'm top ofsmoking, bible flip.

(54:47):
You.
Make a promise to god.
You make you better.
Make sure you keep doing it.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
Oh, my goodness god is listening.

Speaker 4 (54:49):
He's watching no real rap like people think it's
spooky, but it's spiritual, realrap.
And so for me y'all know howhard that was that was the
hardest thing I ever had to do,besides walking with christ.
That was the hardest thing Iever had to do was give up
smoking, give up drinking,because I've depended on it.
I depended on it so much sothose false idols, I depended on
that yeah, and now and now lookat me I got my health back.

(55:11):
I got my youth back strongpeople were saying I was looking
old you know what I mean likeI'm handling.
I'm handling conflict in a, in a, in an adult, mature way.
It's like I'm in a, I'm in astorm, but I'm in a storm, but
how I get so much peace in thestorm.
I call this season singing anddancing in the rain.
Singing and dancing in thestorm because you, looking at me

(55:32):
, like, oh, tremendous,tremendous, oh, look at all
these blessings, but y'all don'teven know, right now, where I'm
sitting.
I'm in a storm, I go, I'm under, I'm under the care of a
cardiologist right now, myhealth is taking its toll and
he's, they saying becausebecause I, I, you know, you,
you've worked your heart toexhaustion, heartbreak.
Damn, that's god, though,because still, in the midst of

(55:54):
it all, I don't look like myaffliction, yeah, yeah, and
still got peace, yeah, and stillhungry, yeah, and still going
for it.
Like, but I, but that, I had todo the work.
I had to do the work, you knowin the hardest thing I ever had
to do.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
I said the most likely life in it is.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
Oh my goodness, I'm going to keep it real with you,
Like.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
and one thing I do appreciate you coming up here
and being vulnerable and thenexpressing and open and
expressing how you feel, becauseyou know, like them type of
words and that type of energythat you're putting out helps
people Like I done.
Had multiple people come to meabout and they opened up about

(56:48):
certain things.
I had somebody come to me andtell me how it was that, how it
was real, or they needed to hearthat, or damn, I ain't even
look at it like that now.
I'm looking at it like that.
So I always, I always um berooting for when artists,
comedians, whatever, come uphere and be vulnerable and then
not only only that tell us howthey could all.

(57:09):
Right, I'm going through this,but I did that and now I'm cool.
You feel what I'm saying.
So, I appreciate you for that.

Speaker 4 (57:18):
And Maruka, let me say this too Don't let nobody
stunt your growth.
I'm not coming here in nojudgment.
I'm telling you what saved me.
I'm telling y'all I don't thinkweed smoking is a bad thing.
I just don't.
I'm sorry, but I tell myfriends all the time whatever
you do more than giving God theglory, that's where it's coming
at you, feel me.

(57:38):
For me, it was like I wasgetting out of hand.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
I was getting out of hand.

Speaker 4 (57:42):
I'm talking about out of hand with my, with my
smoking.
I was getting out of hand withmy drinking.
And so, just because I come,come to y'all, sober and growth,
don't let nobody stunt yourgrowth, even if I'm telling
y'all where I'm at, don't I?
I hate.
Comparison is the killer of allsuccess.
Compare, if you want to stopfrom progressing, start
comparing yourself.
Oh, this person walking withgod more.
Nah, I'll be telling all myfriends, my friends, be coming

(58:02):
to church, smiling like weed,listen, listen, you all right,
you all right.
Don't be judging them either.
Like, don't be judging me overthere, shirley.
You mean like, let them letthem come to church too, because
I love the Lord and it's a,it's a work.
It's a work that you, that you.
I got saved, I got baptized.
I always been saved, but I gotbaptized and I was still doing.

(58:23):
I was still doing my thing.
I was still.
I was still drinking.
I'm still at the clubs.
I'm still in the clubs now.
I'm still in the club but, Idon't drink, I don't smoke and I
can get right up the nextmorning, go right to church, I
can get right up and go to workand I'm but I'm still there and
I'm still proclaiming the nameof the lord and I'm still there,

(58:43):
and I'm still there and I'm notdenying my faith and I don't
think there's nothing wrong withit.
I'm not.
I'm not here to preach to thesaints, I'm here to preach to
the sinners.
And y'all ain't even get thatversion of me yet, because we
stuck on the old stuff.
But we also stuck.
We stuck, and I'm in thatposition where I'm still trying
to figure out moves to get overthat hump that I've been

(59:03):
avoiding for the last few years.
Yeah, it's a process.
No seriously, so yeah it'stremendous, but when you done as
much as I've done, you got tothink of all the progress that
you have to make and all thethings that you still have to
continue to do.
There's still work to be done.

Speaker 3 (59:18):
Always, never feel like you've arrived ever, or
you'll never cease to exist.
Never get comfortable, for sure.
Never get comfortable.
With that being said, make sureyou share, like, subscribe,
comment, repost, tag.
If you don't, you're amotherfucking hater.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
Why.

Speaker 4 (59:31):
Because, it's free, and if it's free, it's me.

Speaker 3 (59:33):
We got Asia Sparks in the building.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
And I'm going to keep it real she is popping it.

Speaker 3 (59:41):
There's a lot going on, man.
I'm telling you like for her tosay the things that she
accomplished.
A wonderful soul, man.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
Some of the things she's been through.
It's real, it's just real.

Speaker 4 (59:53):
I've been getting that a lot lately.
That's been a compliment a lotlately.
Oh, you got such a good spirit.

Speaker 3 (59:59):
Even though you have like your situations with your
health, you know, you know youstill like just keep that energy
alive, even when you walk inyour age of sparks.
You know you pop it.
So that energy right there justhave people like, damn, why am
I complaining?

(01:00:20):
You know I'm saying like I come, I come in here with a problem,
like, let me say, like me nothaving enough of something you
know, but that's a want, youknow.
I mean, yeah, people out hereneed things.
Yeah, hell, yeah, you know Imean so bad health and keeping a

(01:00:43):
good smile.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
People here can't pay the rents and shake and keep
this, we're saying it to peopleout here yesterday.
Got motherfucking holes inthese sneakers.
And we complain and we complainabout not having enough
sneakers and shit.
I'm saying all y'all lookblessed Got to be thankful, we
got to be, we got to be thankfulfor what we have and more

(01:01:03):
appreciative of the things that,like I put it on my gram today,
like I, I work.
I worked hard for everyprivilege I got no, I used.
I like that like I'm sayingsomebody and that's a fact.
You know what I said?
It go nice man.
Yeah, I work for everyprivilege I got.

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
I work for everything yeah, like we just was
interviewing somebody yesterday,shout out to justin my god dc
watching dc.
He got all this stuff going onand he said he not satisfied at
all.
And I told him like bro, can'tthink like that, bro, because
there's people out here whocan't get up and do one thing,

(01:01:46):
half of a thing.
You got like four or fivesituations going on and I get
you come from the, the familyand the, the corporate, whatever
that you come from, but rightnow, in 2024, you gotta you get
it's.
It's hard out here and it'scrazy because it's the easiest

(01:02:08):
to get something going, but it'sthe hardest as well, because,
like music, the music infatuated.
Everybody want to be this,everybody want to be that.
So you got more competition.
But it's easier ways to get it.
You could just pull out yourphone, do something and then it
go viral, like.

(01:02:31):
So it's easier but harder.
But yeah, I ain't going to lie,man, I definitely could see the
South Philly in you, though,like girl because I be around
South Philly people, I'm theonly person who be with us.
that's not from south phillyokay, yeah so I definitely, I

(01:02:52):
definitely see it in you.
So do you think that that's howyou?
That's why you are who, what?
How you is like when it come toyou hustling and getting things
done or just that's, justinstilling like your family?

Speaker 4 (01:03:05):
that's just who I am I move authentically and a lot
of times people don't like me.
I ain't gonna lie like peoplelove me.
But then a lot of time peopledon't like me because they think
it's fake.
Until they really get to knowme, like oh yeah, she's standing
on business, and then that'swhen jealousy or competition
comes in.
I am the type of person who Iknow that there's a lot of
reasons to complain.

(01:03:26):
I know there's a lot of reasonsto complain.
I got a million reasons tocomplain, if I'm going to be
honest.
But the thing that keeps mejoyful and the things that keep
me kind of like, kind of happy alittle bit, is the fact that I
ask myself every single day Iwas, I was, this is a sober
thing.
Now my mind went.

(01:03:46):
I said forgive me, lord,because I'm about to cuss.
What the fuck am I in a rush?
For?
That's what I said to myself.
I said what the fuck am I in?

Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
a rush for.

Speaker 4 (01:03:55):
In a rush to go to the grave, because that's where
surely all these young boysgoing to, we're surely in a rush
to go where.
And then, as I got older, intomy 30s, I said to myself like I
like the slow life, I like theslow life, I love it.
I love the slow life.
Slow life is where, where,where, where happiness lies.

(01:04:19):
The only the fast like you.
Be all in competition, youain't got enough.
You moving too fast, nigga, slowdown, chill out, chill out,
move slow.
Stop trying to fall in love sofast, stop trying to have fast
friendships where you're nottesting the times, where you're
not testing the morals of thesepeople.
You just trying to be aroundthis person because this person

(01:04:40):
got the weed.
You trying to be around thisperson.
They be trying to be around mebecause I be in them spots.
But slow down, we in a rush toofast, we just moving too fast.
It's not.
Life ain't meant to happen likethat.
Oh, all this technology, allthis technology got you feeling
like, and all this, all thisInstagram, got you feeling like
you got to compete and move fastlike this person.
Oh, I want it.
It's my life and I want it.

(01:05:02):
Now.
Hit me at the button Nah, nah,nah, nah, nah, nah.
So that's when I decided I'mmoving slow, people kept trying
to rush me to do this musicstuff and I was like, and then
that's when I started to feelthat spirit of like, I'm not
good enough, I'm not good enough, I'm not producing, I'm not
producing.
But everybody know and if you aChristian or a believer, you
know that it's a seed.
Everywhere you go andeverything you do, you're

(01:05:25):
planting a seed.
Right now we're planting a seed.
We're planting a seed.
We're planting a seed.
But guess what?
A lot of people don't know whenyou plant a seed, the seed
grows down into the dirt beforeit grows up until when it blooms
.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
So it gets dark before it gets light.

Speaker 4 (01:05:40):
With that being said, if we know that you have to
make sure, while you're wateringit, you're surrounded with
people.
That's watering it and notdrying you out, not pulling from
you, siphoning your energy,allow the main source, which is
God, to shine his light and hisface upon you.
I promise you this is thank you, lord.
But also just know thateverything happens in due season

(01:06:02):
.
If you won before, you'll winagain.
If you lost before, you'll winagain.
If you lose, if you lost before, you'll lose again, like you
gotta expect if you, if you'vebeen in a good season, no, a bad
season is coming anytime.
I know that I've been in toogood of a season.
I know something bad coming.
That's why I said but then yourmindset changed.
When people make me upset ormake me mad, I I don't get mad

(01:06:23):
no more, because I'd be like.
I asked all my friends are yousurprised?
They'd be like no, I'm notreally surprised.
So why are you reacting likethat when you know what's up?
yeah you shouldn't.
You should be expecting it,learning the game and getting
yourself prepared so that.
So yeah, I'm not.
I'm not always, I'm not alwayshappy, go lucky and jolly jolly,
but at the end of the day Iwake up and I'll be like there's

(01:06:46):
many reasons to complain.
But why I complain?
I'm prepared.
Mentally, I'm prepared.
I ain't talking about what mylife look like, I'm talking
about mentally I'm prepared yeah.
I've been through hella storms,bad storms where you wouldn't
even want to wake up in themorning, storms but I'm here.

Speaker 3 (01:07:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:07:06):
Prepared.
Right, I done overcame.
This too shall pass.
Yeah, that's my mindset.
So maybe it's a relentlessmindset, like I have this
relentless mindset.
I have this like like it's noteven that I'm going to go get it
and win, it's just that youcannot beat me.
I'm undefeated.
It's not even that I'm gonna goget it and win, it's just that

(01:07:27):
you cannot beat me.
I'm undefeated.
That's how?
Because attacks gonna come, soI'm not even, I'm not even
coming at you like I want to winand I want to beat you to the
finish line.
I'm in competition with myself.
But one thing I am every day Itell myself I would never let
you defeat me, ever so.
I don't know that's a lot, butlike somebody needs to hear that
in the world my spirit was istalking to somebody.
Somebody needs to hear it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
When we going to get one of these four albums, Like
like when we going to get one ofthem.
I want to hear some some music.

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
What the queen with the plan?
Yeah, I need to hear you.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
You got a beautiful voice.
I want to hear, we need to hearyou sing it.
You can rap your ass off.
I need to hear you rapping.
When is we going to get thesefour albums?

Speaker 4 (01:08:15):
When the right people align.
I don't like to say you don'tneed nobody, because you really
it's been me holding it down fora minute, but when the right
people align.
Right now I've been in theseason of like kind of just
picking the weeds out and tryingto figure out who, because god,
sometimes god won't bless youwith, with those he ain't gonna
say god ain't gonna say no to ablessing, he's just gonna say no
, not with them around, right,god gonna do that, yeah, and for

(01:08:38):
, especially for the type ofblessings he promised in me, he,
like I, can't bless you withthis person around.
God know everything he and Iand I be, and now me and god
locked in twin.
I'd be I.
I know that he's stopping somethings just for certain people
being around.
Okay, he'll literally like he'sbeen doing.
I say lord, remove him.
And I used to be.
I used to be scared to ask godto remove all the people from my

(01:08:59):
life, because then next youknow, like your boyfriend fall
off or your best friends falloff.
Now I'm like god, remove, god,remove them.
I'm ready, I'm strengthened forthat now, like, remove them,
get them out the way so I can goto my destination, cause I
can't see with all these peopleblinding me.
That's real rad.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
No, it is.

Speaker 4 (01:09:14):
Remove them and increase my discernment as new
people come in.
So I don't self-sabotage thepeople, but I also recognize the
people that gotta go removethem.

Speaker 1 (01:09:24):
I used to be like no.

Speaker 4 (01:09:25):
God, don't remove them.
I need them.
Don't remove them.
Only got two friends.
Don't remove them.
God, remove them.
Remove them all.
Get them out the way.
It's me and you now.
So that's pretty much it.
That's where I'm at with y'allsoldier.
I'm in the trenches.
We got these games we play uphere.

Speaker 3 (01:09:44):
Hey, yeah, you wanna play a game with us?

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
I'm in the trenches.
We got these games we play uphere.
Hey, yeah, you want to play agame with us.

Speaker 4 (01:09:50):
You want to play games?
I love games.
Let's get it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
Come on, we're going to play.
And somebody said white boy inmy live.

Speaker 4 (01:09:57):
Yo, I'm live, I've been live this whole time.
Somebody said white boy, Idon't know.
Let me see, let me go back down.

Speaker 3 (01:10:14):
Hold on, thank you.
Make sure y'all share, like,subscribe, comment.
That's the really the mostpodcast we got.
Sparks in the building Asia.
Sparks in the building SouthPhilly, new Jersey.

Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
Stand up, all right, so I'm saying on really the most
, we play a couple games on here.
This game right here calledfast track.
It ain't not too crazy, it'sjust we say a few things, that
you pick one or the other.
So, being as though we fromPhilly, I gotta start with this
question, okay let's get it, wein the female rappers to I'm

(01:10:45):
extremely competitive, let's getit, let's go.
That just went.
All right, go ahead.
All right, you ready.

Speaker 3 (01:10:52):
Go ahead, you got it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
State property of major figures.

Speaker 4 (01:10:57):
Oh my goodness, oh my goodness, oh my goodness.
All right, don't be mad at me.
I love all y'all, you knowy'all, all my family, dutch girl
, all over Bianca.
But I'm gonna go with stateproperty.
I'm gonna tell you why.
The branding they had, thecoats, they, it was just, it was
just smarter.
They had coats, they had movies, they had did state property
one into and and they still torntogether or they still tore

(01:11:17):
into this day.

Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
So yeah, okay, I like that.
Okay, okay, I like it.
Alright, okay, okay, lil' Kimor Foxy, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:11:38):
Lil' Kim.
Lil' Kim is queen bee, so youbest take heed.
Shall I proceed?
Yes, indeed, yeah, I love Lil'Kim.
I love Lil' Kim is queen bee,so you best take heat.
Shall I proceed?
Yes indeed yeah, I love lil kim.
I opened up a little camp.
I love lil kim because she, she, just, she, just, she just had
that style lil kim.
She still was making music.
She put out more albums like Ilove lil cam nikki fawkesy too.
Nikki o'carly.

(01:11:59):
Oh, I hate that.
Um, I hate it too, but I don'tlike it I geared it right to it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
I don't like it.
I geared it right to it.
I don't like it either.

Speaker 4 (01:12:07):
Nikki, you can't get the.
Not a respect on Nikki.
Put respect on Nikki.
Name man.
She didn't.
She didn't made it from themixtapes to the.
I'm a mixtape Queen, so I get.
I love the mixtape.
I love the mixtape era.
I love Nicki Minaj in a mixtapeera.
I just went to go to PinkFriday World Tour 2.

Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
And I love the fact that she's still touring and I
love nick minaj.

Speaker 4 (01:12:29):
Read dollars to joey jack, come on, like she told my
couple, like they make it soundreal hard, I ain't gonna like
this, but I don't.
I know y'all gonna like it forreal read.
I'm gonna go with my boy, reeddollars, you feel me you bad.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
Bad but all right.
But listen what what'd you say?

Speaker 4 (01:12:41):
cool, it's cool.
You ain't like that one.

Speaker 2 (01:12:43):
No go ahead, do your thing, I'm gonna go with reed.

Speaker 4 (01:12:44):
I'm gonna go with reed because he was, he was like
he was, like he kind of made mylike headshotters, bloodhound
era, like he made that for me,okay, coming up like it's
nostalgic.
And then you know, I've donesome work with reed too, so
that's my boy and joey, thoughshout out to joey.
Joey, my guy too, I ain't evengonna lie.
Joey, you my boy too.
Spark up, get a couple off too.

Speaker 3 (01:13:02):
Go ahead, alright.
Lauryn Hill, jill Scott.

Speaker 4 (01:13:06):
What?
Oh my goodness, y'all making ithard and I'm mad at y'all.
How?
Because I'm real mad at y'all,for real, like Lauryn.

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
Hill and.

Speaker 4 (01:13:13):
Jill.
Scott, I'm going to go withJill Scott because she's from
Philly, but Lauryn Hill fromJersey, but she's from North
Jersey, jill.

Speaker 2 (01:13:21):
Who don't?

Speaker 4 (01:13:22):
love Jill.
Is it the way?
No, no.
She said let's take a long walkaround the park at the dark
yeah, come on, jill.

Speaker 3 (01:13:34):
Shout out to Jill For us to spark conversation, the
locks or diplomats.

Speaker 4 (01:13:39):
Oh, come on the locks .
We've seen the verses.
Yeah, we've seen the verses.
Shout out the dip set.
Uh, I mean, you said diplomatum, um usher or chris brown
usher.
I'm a.
I'm a.
I'm an usher fan.
I had a day I shared a dancewith usher I know chris brown
too monica keisha cole that's agood job right there.

(01:14:02):
that's hard because I know bothof y'all really making it hard
because I be knowing thesepeople, monica or Keisha Cole.
I'm going to give it to KeishaCole because Keisha Cole, she
posted Spaja a couple years agoand I love Keisha.

Speaker 3 (01:14:15):
Cardi B, remy mom.

Speaker 4 (01:14:18):
What?
Cardi B or Remy, I'm going togo with Remy.
When it come to bars, I'm gonnago with Remy.

Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
Sorry.

Speaker 4 (01:14:26):
I'm gonna go with Remy when it come to bars.
I like Remy bars.

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
All right, this one gotta go.
What?
We're gonna say four people.
It's kind of the opposite.
So we're gonna say four peopleand you gotta pick one to lead
to go.
Okay, and we're gonna startwith the Philly one.

Speaker 3 (01:14:47):
Y'all, let's go with Philly real quick.

Speaker 2 (01:14:49):
All right, some Philly females.

Speaker 3 (01:14:51):
I could do one and then you could pick up.
You want to pick up after that?

Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
I mean go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:14:55):
All right, miss Jade Eve, I'm going say Nino Ross,
he's J E Nino Ross.

Speaker 4 (01:15:15):
Bianca gots one gotta go.

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
Yeah, one gotta go.

Speaker 4 (01:15:19):
And what they mean.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
Like just for now or no, they like, they music has
never Like they music has theirmusic.

Speaker 4 (01:15:26):
They never came out.

Speaker 3 (01:15:27):
Yeah, they erased you deleting them.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
They done, yeah, they erased they all.
The existence is gone.

Speaker 3 (01:15:34):
And we love all of them.
Let's go.

Speaker 4 (01:15:38):
That's messy, no comment.

Speaker 1 (01:15:40):
Yo.

Speaker 4 (01:15:45):
No comment.
That's messy.
The ones who know know that'smessy.
Hey yo, yo Cut the cameras off.
Ain't no, keep them running.
Nah, that's messy.
Cut the cameras off.
I ain't picking.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
What's wrong with this nigga man?
That's not messy, Isn't?

Speaker 4 (01:16:03):
that messy.
It's messy because you ain't doyour research.

Speaker 1 (01:16:06):
It's messy because you ain't do your research.
It's messy because you ain't doyour research.

Speaker 4 (01:16:09):
Bianca, you ain't do your research.
Oh, you ain't do your research.
It's messy, I ain't picking.

Speaker 2 (01:16:14):
All right, so we're going to move on.

Speaker 4 (01:16:15):
Next Sound Felicia's up Yep next.

Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
We're going to Tia Gucci Jeezy Yo Gotti One gotta
go.

Speaker 4 (01:16:26):
Tia Gucci.

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
Jeezy she is shy.

Speaker 3 (01:16:32):
This a good joke too.
Yeah, it is, go ahead, man.

Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
Tia Gucci Jeezy.
Yo Gotti One gotta go.

Speaker 4 (01:16:38):
It's not gonna be Jeezy Cause it's not gonna be
Jeezy Because Recession got methrough it.
It can't be Jeezy, it's Gucci T, recession got me through it.
You can't be cheesy, it's tia,tia gotta go.
Damn, I'm gonna put tia outthere because you know, I don't
think no change, like you knowlistening to tia I ain't, I
ain't like gucci man was a bigpart of me a little bit.
Yo goddy, yo goddy, yo goddy.

(01:17:00):
You just gotta have your goddyin there like you gotta have
your god in there.
I gotta remove ti dang.

Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
But he had some joints all right, so we're gonna
go here.
Meek one gotta go meek reed Ilike ti meek reed joey, jag
quillie mills, one gotta gothat's messy too one gotta go
one gotta go let's kick go Onegotta go.

Speaker 4 (01:17:27):
Quills.
My homie Can't be Quills.
Who else?

Speaker 2 (01:17:31):
Joey Jack, I ain't talk to Joey in a minute, but
Joey, my homie.

Speaker 4 (01:17:35):
Meek Mill and Reed.

Speaker 3 (01:17:38):
Yeah, everything going they ever did.

Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
Mmm.

Speaker 3 (01:17:43):
Just remember that Mmm who you getting rid of ever
did.

Speaker 4 (01:17:48):
Let's remember that.
Who you getting rid of?
Damn, I gotta get rid of Reed.

Speaker 3 (01:17:52):
That's crazy.
I can't get rid of Reed.
Alright, so let's do one.
Let me do one more, one more.
I can't get rid of Reed, I wantto do all the new people.
So I'm going to say Ice Spice,glorilla.

Speaker 4 (01:18:09):
Ice Spice Glorilla.

Speaker 3 (01:18:10):
Ice Spice Glorilla.

Speaker 4 (01:18:11):
Cash Doll.

Speaker 3 (01:18:12):
And Lotto.

Speaker 4 (01:18:14):
And Lotto.

Speaker 3 (01:18:15):
I love all of them.

Speaker 4 (01:18:16):
Ice Spice got to go.

Speaker 2 (01:18:17):
It would be Ice Spice .
For me, it would be Ice Spicefor me.

Speaker 4 (01:18:19):
I love Glorilla, I love Lotto.
And who was the other?

Speaker 3 (01:18:24):
one Cash Doll.

Speaker 4 (01:18:26):
Can't be Cash Doll, nope, sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:18:29):
Alright, we gonna do one last, john, just remember.
I mean, everything they didlike ever is gone.
No personal stuff, no what theydid in their personal life,
none of that, just music, justbusiness.
All that, uh, birdman, dr jayjay-z and p diddy oh what, what

(01:18:55):
do I?

Speaker 4 (01:18:56):
gotta go yeah, I already know who.

Speaker 3 (01:19:05):
We don't know Because it's not personal.

Speaker 4 (01:19:10):
Too many people.
Attached to Birdman, bloodlineMeaning like Too many people.
Too many people were successfuloff of Birdman Can't be, him.
Too many, all of them, too manypeople were successful off of
Jay-Z.
Diddy got to go.

Speaker 3 (01:19:24):
Diddy got to go, diddy no.

Speaker 4 (01:19:25):
Diddy the Lox, not Diddy, gotta go.
No Diddy, not like no Diddy, noDiddy, but no Diddy, we gotta
get, we can't, oh damn.

Speaker 2 (01:19:32):
Biggie Kim.

Speaker 4 (01:19:35):
Oh my gosh, y'all Damn Carl Thomas, carl Thomas
too.
Total Wait, wait, wait.
No, no, let me take it back.

Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
No, that's hard I don't like y'all now.
I don't like none of y'all.

Speaker 4 (01:19:49):
Because then everybody got to go.
What they did Now I don't likenone of y'all, because I don't
like that.
You could, you could.
That's not fair.
That's not fair and I don'tlike that.

Speaker 3 (01:19:59):
A lot of people you know Asia, Harlem shaking and
all that Y'all ain't right.
Y'all ain't right, y'all ain'tright, all right, bye, diddy,
you got to pack up.
That was hard Cash.

Speaker 4 (01:20:08):
That's why I see you sitting over there quiet, you
coming with all the smoke and Idon't like that.
That's how you going to put meon the front line to say
something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:20:24):
That's hard you can't really exit out like that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:27):
So Dr Dre will go for me because I think I could live
without the West Coast music,even though it still would be
hard, because I like a lot ofSee.
That's what I was about to say.
I love Blue Carpet Treatmentand Drop it Like it's Hot.
Bro, when Drop it Like it's Hotcame out, I was in school.
I had the Nextel.
That was my ringtone, that wasmy bro all right dr dre.

Speaker 4 (01:20:50):
But then without dr dre we wouldn't have beats
headphones, we wouldn't have 50cent.
We even have eminem kendrick,we wouldn't have.
Oh, my goodness, like y'all I'mover here.
I'm over this this is which oneyou picking?
Oh, jay-z got rihanna beanieseagull, jay cole oh yeah, jay-z

(01:21:10):
, jay-z, so you don't care aboutyeezys or none of that right?
No, I don't.
I got a couple of beer, but no,I don't I don't, you could do
without the yeezys yeah, okayjay-z.

Speaker 3 (01:21:20):
Sorry, jay, sometimes they gotta go jay-z, but then
without jay.

Speaker 4 (01:21:24):
Is that Jay has?

Speaker 1 (01:21:24):
to go for me too in that list.

Speaker 3 (01:21:26):
Yeah, to be honest, Rihanna and them, yeah, Nah.

Speaker 2 (01:21:30):
I'm never getting rid of Benny C.

Speaker 3 (01:21:32):
I don't go for a full signing.
I can't get rid of Rihanna andall of them.

Speaker 4 (01:21:35):
That's crazy, Rihanna also, like he elevated Beyonce,
even though she still would behere.

Speaker 1 (01:21:41):
Certain records like number one no, I'm mad at y'all
people gotta understand and knowhove is my favorite rapper
period.
But what people gotta?

Speaker 3 (01:21:53):
come to them them.

Speaker 1 (01:21:55):
People is the reason hove is who he is.
If it wasn't a kanye or rihannaor a beans, oh wouldn't even be
who he was it.
Nah, the other people, it is theother people they is who they
is because of Birdman, becauseof Dre.
Hov is who he is because ofthem.
Like when everything was dyingdown, then Umbrella came out,

(01:22:19):
the nigga got right back up Likeif he didn't get the people, he
dropped Blueprint 3 Shit waslight, cold.
Came around.
Now Roc Nation back up.
He just a good businessman, heknow how to move.
The only thing I would befucked up about by putting him
off the list Is his albumshimself.
Besides that, I could dowithout him.

(01:22:43):
You know, what I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:22:45):
He did contribute a lot to the culture.

Speaker 1 (01:22:47):
Yeah, he did For sure , for sure, man, without.

Speaker 3 (01:22:50):
Jay-Z Rock aware.

Speaker 2 (01:22:51):
There's no Jay-Z Remember that, oh my goodness,
rick Ross, no.

Speaker 3 (01:22:55):
Ross.

Speaker 2 (01:22:56):
Remember that All them early guys over there he
ran Def Jam for a long timeY'all gotta

Speaker 4 (01:23:00):
remember this.
It was a lot of people Dipset.

Speaker 3 (01:23:02):
These is the people that Jay-Z said Come on.

Speaker 2 (01:23:04):
Yeah, dipset was on that one.
You on.
Come on, you on, even thoughthat was a Dame Dash play you
didn't find them though

Speaker 3 (01:23:09):
bro, I mean, he is Dame.

Speaker 4 (01:23:09):
Shout out to Dame.

Speaker 3 (01:23:10):
Dash, I mean he gave them the opportunity at that
point, Like it wouldn't be noJeezy without Coach K no, the
bull um shocker bro.

Speaker 1 (01:23:16):
Shocker bro, he died, he passed away.

Speaker 3 (01:23:18):
It was the man, the bull that said what y'all doing
with all these cars like can'tput jeezy at the level he at no,
I'm telling you it was shot.

Speaker 1 (01:23:31):
No all right, all right, but yeah, um, we
appreciate you for coming uphere man you gave us a great
interview we appreciate you.
Thank you for having me.

Speaker 3 (01:23:44):
You gave us a great interview.
We appreciate you.
Thank y'all for having me.

Speaker 4 (01:23:49):
We had ups and downs on this.
My dog for life.

Speaker 3 (01:23:53):
This was a good Piece of work, man.
We gonna put this out ASAP.
The content on this is crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:24:01):
Y'all gonna be dropping clips on the ground.
We gonna add you on all of them.

Speaker 3 (01:24:06):
Collab with me please , that's one thing we like top,
top tier wrong.
Like we love collabing, we lovegiving out the clips.
Make sure y'all share, like,subscribe, comment, repost,
follow, follow asia sparks oneverything, everything a s p a r
k l e g r a yeah and if youdon't know now you know, know

(01:24:27):
you have four projects sittingon the way.
And you're going to come spamher spam her DM right now.

Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
Spam her DM right now Sit down.

Speaker 4 (01:24:37):
Drop me, I'll go check out right now.

Speaker 3 (01:24:40):
Yes, sit down when it drop.
Yes.

Speaker 4 (01:24:43):
And make sure y'all go download and stream that Girl
on.

Speaker 2 (01:24:46):
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Speaker 4 (01:24:49):
And also we Outside on all streaming platforms.
Make sure y'all go check outthe video we Outside, we.

Speaker 3 (01:24:53):
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Speaker 4 (01:24:54):
That Girl.
And then make sure y'all gocheck out my single from my
movie Hollywood Hearts calledshe Ain't.
Me featuring Bobby Valentino,and that's out on Apple Music
Keep popping it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:06):
Go ahead, Love y'all.
Let's go y'all oh.

Speaker 4 (01:25:08):
I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:25:09):
Rilla.

Speaker 1 (01:25:09):
I'm out of world cash .

Speaker 3 (01:25:11):
I'm white boy.
D2a this the Rilla and Moosepodcast.
We out of here, we out.

Speaker 2 (01:25:18):
Rilla and Moose podcast.

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