July 10, 2025 • 42 mins
When Sean Garrett steps into a room, the air shifts. Known throughout the industry as "The Pen," Garrett holds the distinction as Billboard's fastest hitmaker in history, accumulating more #1 singles in a shorter timespan than anyone else. His fingerprints are on some of the most iconic songs of our generation – the anthems you've cried to, the tracks you've screamed along with in your car, the soundtracks to countless memories.
During this raw, unfiltered conversation, Garrett opens up about the duality of his musical journey. Despite crafting hits for superstars like Beyoncé, Usher, Nicki Minaj, and Ludacris, he reveals the persistent undercurrent of industry hate he's faced throughout his career. "They've been hating on me my whole career," he admits, speaking to the competitive nature of the music business that often tries to diminish even its most successful contributors. Yet that same competitive spirit fuels his excellence – as evidenced by his memorable (and somewhat controversial) Verzuz battle with fellow hitmaker The-Dream.
The conversation takes us around the world, from Atlanta's profound influence on music culture to Garrett's recent musical expeditions across Africa and South Korea. He shares his philosophy on staying relevant: "Being current is just being yourself really. A lot of times, people don't know themselves, and not knowing yourself can date your ass." This authenticity has kept him at the forefront of sound evolution for decades. As we wrap up, Garrett exclusively announces his upcoming single "Girlfriend Me" featuring Quavo and Plies, proving once again that his ability to create and collaborate across genres remains unmatched.
Whether you're an aspiring artist, a music industry professional, or simply a fan of the songs that define our culture, this episode offers a masterclass in resilience, creativity, and staying true to yourself. Share, subscribe, and join the conversation – because as Garrett demonstrates, real recognizes real.
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
It's White Boy D2A.
I'm Roland and we just wrappedup the craziest, craziest
interview.
Sam, hold me down for the lightskin niggas.
Yeah, yeah, I Hold me down forthe light skin niggas.
And a certain thing, is acertain blame, is a certain
package y'all trying to be in.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I might have to do certain little things that might
get me to trust them, but ifthis is really the most podcast,
Keep it coming.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
If you don't, you're a motherfucking a**.
Why?
Because we're afraid Really themost podcast.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Oh man, it's the Rilla the Most podcast.
I'm Rilla, I'm White Boy D2A,and you know we got a special
guest in the building today,uh-huh.
This is not just any guest,though, man.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
This is somebody like that.
Really, really, man put somerespect on this man's name.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah, this man has shaped this generation of sound
in an R&B way, in a hip-hop way,and just some of the anthems
that's known all over the radio.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
If you cried to a song, you drove in the car
singing your heart out Uh-huh,Uh-huh.
Nine times out of ten it washis song.
That's just the facts.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
That's a big fact.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
That's a big fact, Like Day-Z called him the pen.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Bro, he's the pen, like he the pen.
Come on, man.
This the real of the mostpodcast.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Make sure you share, like, subscribe, comment.
If you don't, you a muff.
I hate it.
And why?
Because it's free.
It's fucking free, bro, it'sfree.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
We got Sean Garrett in the building today.
The Sean Garrett in thebuilding y'all the pin, the pin.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
So how you feeling today?
I feel well, man.
I feel great man.
I'm sitting next to the legend,you know what I'm.
Come on, man, come on.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
How you feeling today , sean, how you feeling.
Life is great, man, life isgreat.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Extremely blessed man , just you know, definitely want
to come out and highlight youguys.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Man Appreciate you, sean, highly appreciate you
Seriously.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
You know?
Just let them know, I be in thehood.
Yeah, and I don't be in thehood.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Right right, right right.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah, yeah, you sitting down with us.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
You definitely in the hood, my man, you in the hood
right now, you know what I'msaying.
You with the culture, youletting them know.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yeah, we letting them know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,yeah man.
No man.
So you know man.
You know you just being incharge of a lot of great music
that this generation has beenhere to witness, man, and you
know you just part of and justbeing able to pin and construct
(03:09):
and move around and do what youdo the best.
How'd that feel, man?
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Like how'd that feel?
I mean at this point, man, youknow it's become.
You know, and not to sound likefacetious or nothing like that,
but it's just become a naturalthing.
You know what I'm saying.
I've been doing this shit sinceI was a kid and you know.
The good thing about life isthat you know, you grow, you
build, you learn you earn.
You know what I'm saying andit's never, I think, sometimes
(03:38):
at this place in my life I onlyhear two sides of life the
struggle and great.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Right, Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Meaning like people are rich.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yeah, right, and unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
you know, my goal was to see people meet in the
middle.
Okay, so, you know, my journeyis still up right, right.
So I'm just trying to blend theworld world, you know, trying
to help people who are reallytalented, like find them, find
their way yeah, and just be assupportive as I possibly can as
(04:11):
a hit maker right at the sametime, you know, as an artist,
should you know, I'm gonna do me.
I'm outside doing um.
My new single comes out nextmonth.
I I'm out doing shows, doingtours.
I just came from Africa, gotsome really big cool things
coming about.
Last year I went to SeoulCareer and that was really
(04:38):
amazing because one of thesingles that I did out there for
this new group, or this newgroup, it's just not coming out
next week.
Okay and um still working yeah,yeah.
So you know, I like to talkabout everything that I'm doing,
but sometimes shit resonates,sometimes don't, in reference to
(04:59):
like where everybody is rightright, I do music in Seoul,
Korea, and I live in America.
I do music in Africa and I'm inAmerica.
I try to do as best as I can inAmerica to keep on making you
know, trying to change thingsand stuff like that.
So it's just like, man, it's agreat.
It's just a great challenge,because everything doesn't make,
(05:22):
everything is not always alwaysgonna make sense when you do it
yeah it's just a journey right
Speaker 3 (05:27):
you know, yeah, with billboard calling you the
fastest hit maker, is that achallenge?
Speaker 1 (05:33):
yeah, the fastest, yeah, I had the most number ones
in the shortest period of time,in the shortest period of time
in billboard history, for real.
Yeah, I try to talk to thesepeople.
Come on, man, we talking to thelittle corners on the blocks
right now I'm letting you knowyeah, man, it's been a journey
man, yeah, I really can't.
(05:55):
Man, I'm very proud, I'm veryproud.
Thank you, bless.
And I just want to be anexample to people that, like you
know, if you work hard, youstay focused, you stop looking
at the things that didn't happen.
(06:15):
You know, in my conversationswith people these days, I just
try to give as much informationas I feel like that can help
people.
And I feel like sometimespeople pay too much attention to
like what didn't happen, whathurt you, what I could have did.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, or this person didn't dothis.
It's like I look for themoments that it's like this shit
(06:37):
ain't working, this ain't whereI need to be.
Well, I won't say this ain'tworking, but I will look at a
situation and I'll be.
If this is not where I'msupposed to be, then I just have
to patiently, respectfully, saylet me, let me regroup.
And I think sometimes peopledon't hold themselves
accountable.
Right.
You know holding yourselfaccountable is just as it's just
(06:59):
as important as making it orjust as important as scoring.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I think that's important.
I think that's important.
I think that's important.
So you being like a musicalgenius, safe to say, and you
working with the likes of aBeyonce, the likes of a Nicki
Minaj, the likes of a Ludacris,what give you that balance?
You know what I mean, from theR&B to the hip-hop.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
I would say them Yeahhop.
I would say them.
Yeah, I would say them.
I would say my way I was raised.
I would say the way I grew up,my household, you know, I feel
like you know, when you getaround people, two things gonna
happen yeah either y'all gonnaget along or you're not.
Either you gonna learn, learnsomething or you're not.
Uh, who you are will come outright right when you get around
(07:50):
great people, it becomesenergetic, it becomes fun.
You know, I mean when you're,you know when you know I'm from
the jungle.
But when I get around peoplefrom the jungle, shit can turn
into the jungle.
Yeah, but when I be aroundpeople who have great
personality, or people that'sexcited about the same thing I'm
(08:11):
excited about, then I tend tolighten up a little bit right,
get excited, smile a little moreand get into what it is I like
to do.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Yeah, as I tapped in on that verse, bro, I didn't
even know, I'm telling you, youmade me do my research.
I did my homework.
I said he really the pen.
He wrote everything.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Everything.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Everything.
So when he, on that verse, ispopping his shit the way he
popping it, it was a reasonbehind that.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Sometimes you got to let the people know how did the
verses come up to you?
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Yo, it was funny as hell but at the same time
entertaining.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
It was like you was popping your shit because I
would probably say that'sprobably the one time I ever got
caught off guard.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Nah, nah, nah, nah.
I time I ever got caught offguard Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
I feel like I got caught off guard Because I
really that was a tough day inreference to just like where I'm
at in my normal life Okay, okay, and I just came from the
dentist.
My mouth was swollen.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Oh shit, I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
I had two root canals oh shit and I was asleep, I, I
was sleeping.
I was actually sleeping, man,my boy Bobby, one of my best
friends.
We went to go get lunch too,and I came.
I was on the way back and I wassleeping in this Jeep and man
Swizzy called me.
He was like yo, nigga, we doingthe motherfucking.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Versus the night I'm like what.
I'm ready.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
I mean, just imagine somebody calling you out of your
Bro.
I'm on pain pills for realRight.
Like, I ain't even tripping.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah, two root canals .
Speaker 1 (09:53):
I was really a little bit zooted right and but I
still wanted to hold him down.
So I said, you know, I stillhad like an hour or so to get
ready, man.
But you know, but I do feellike you know, the truth of who
I am will always prevail.
(10:13):
You know, I'm very competitiveyou know, but I am a
professional, so I felt that day.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
I looked at that shit like this rich ass nigga got
all these hits.
He lit right now he having funwith it and he letting y'all
know he got that shit,regardless of how y'all want to
hear it.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Let's get it.
You know, everything else wasreal.
I was just a little bit.
You know I was trying to be you.
You know the one thing aboutthis business man, it's like
they judge you.
It's too much you can never beperfect, you know um, but as
(10:55):
much as given, much as we werequired.
So I try to be on my best yeahyou know I try, I try to
represent for the world as bestas they can.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
We know that, though we know that I look at it as,
like you know, we human.
So, yeah, you have anincredible talent.
You know what I mean, but youwas at the dentist that day.
You know what I'm saying, soyou know things happen.
We live in life.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
And I was at my crib, you know, comfortable, because
this is when we were in.
Um, this is covet.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Yeah, so if it would have beena setting, of course I wouldn't
show up.
But but anyway, man, I justwanted to say thank you all
appreciate you whomever got thegift that, what god gave us to
give that day.
Um, if there was nothing elsethat people understood about me,
(11:41):
it's just no, I don't playaround.
I'm definitely definitelyserious about them,
motherfucking hits.
And the dream got his ass smoked.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
This is the.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Ruling the Most podcast yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
And tell them don't come back because I got to have
about 20 more.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I said, man, Looking at your discography man, I said
it just won't end.
And then the thing about yoursis they top Billboard Top 100.
There you go.
You got to talk to them in thatway there you go, see, they
(12:22):
love it.
There you go, they got hits.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
No, I make categories out here.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
They're not those.
That shit get different.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yes, they do.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
But you know what, man, I have to be careful with
popping my shit because I don'twant to annoy.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Not on the Real of the Most podcast.
It's cool, I'll pop it for you.
That's what we doing here.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
we pop shit, that's what happened yeah, man, yeah,
we just be we.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
We be wanting to uh the guts to um, to understand
you know what's funny, but thecrazy is like the been hating on
me my whole career, bro.
I've been wanting to say thatso long they've been hating on
the niggas.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Wild.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Nah, I'm really him, Like I've been on their ass.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
For a long time, Bro.
I came in it.
You proud of me.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
But, you motherfuckers know who you are.
I've been whooping y'all assand I mean this in a respectful
way, like what I loved aboutwhen I came in the game it was
very competitive.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Today it's like Mm-hmm, whatever.
It's just like anybody iswriting songs, you know, and I
don't mean it in a bad way, Ijust mean like Bro you made.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Yeah, that was like a reset to the whole culture,
culture Facts, like we heardthat song, it brought new lights
and new colors.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
And it's not just for me To keep that level up there,
but it's all of us, man.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
We can be nice about it bro, we can sit here and play
.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
We can play nice, but let's just keep it above.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
We all want to win.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
We all want our music to be at the top.
We all want our football teamto be number one.
We all want our let's keep it abing, yep, yep, the highest
level.
Or wanting to be great, I'llsay that so I love it and I'm
(14:23):
very unapologetic by being greatat it.
Or wanting to be great, I'llsay that I'll let people say
what they think, but I'm goingto talk my shit when it comes to
the number ones.
I'm going to pop my shitBecause people sometimes Be
really tripping when they becalling shit what it is.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
But you got to say something sometimes.
But, sometimes you don't.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Sometimes you keep working.
You ain't gotta say everythingall the time.
I'm so thankful, man, for thisjourney.
I gotta shout out a lot ofpeople that inspired me.
I'm very proud of JermaineDupri.
Jermaine is like one of the.
He's one of my favoriteproducers and the reason I like
Jermaine is like one of the.
He's one of my favoriteproducers and the reason I like
Jermaine so much is like I feellike Jermaine is cocky but he
(15:08):
not right.
Right, jermaine is like reallythe truth confident he's.
He's very confident, but he'sso responsible for so much.
Yes, he is he really to be, tobe who he really is, because he
inspires when he trying toinspire.
Right, he from atlanta.
Atlanta was a small, a smallspace right on the map, man,
(15:28):
when he came along.
You know what I'm saying, orwhen you know he made it way
broad, all of those guys, man,it's just like when you think
about so so the pioneers of likeatlanta music right um dallas
austin, you know, goodyody Mob,goody Mob.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Babyface LA Reid, babyface LA Reid, babyface it
wasn't defined.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
That's a very difficult thing.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Like people don't really understand how hard that
is to become something whenthere is nothing right.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yeah so.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
I got to give you know, I got to give that up to
Jermaine man.
I love Jermaine and as long ashe's continuing, the more I like
him as my compadre, as somebodywho I really respect and look
up to.
I just wanted to say that today.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Yeah, his resume is crazy.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Yeah, and as a guy that did so much in music, and
to continue to keep going andthrobbing and to make sounds new
and work with the new artistsis like he never stopped.
You're from New York, right.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Philly.
You're from Philly, yeah.
Oh man, man, my dad's fromPhilly, yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Yeah, we from Philly.
You got some Philly.
We both from Philly.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Yeah, you know, it's in there, man, it's in there man
, we all over man a littlesprinkle everywhere yeah, I was
gonna say to you guys one thingabout atlanta is we are very,
very, very proud to be fromatlanta, and southern people are
already kind of like very niceand very like.
(17:00):
You know we love people, we'revery loving right, but we really
don't around and play either.
So it gets really it can gofrom right to left real quick.
That's what people didn't knowuntil they came to Atlanta.
They'd be like oh damn, thesemotherfuckers, really they get
wild they like that right butthe reason why we are so like
standing on music is because Ithink we have defined music in a
(17:26):
way that made people reallyrealize like you could really be
yourself.
You know, I'm very man, I'mvery much myself.
Yeah, you know, I've never donean interview like this, right
here, right yeah, but yeah todaywas short on time but at the
end of the day, I'm myself.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
You chillin'.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
And I think Atlanta has defined you know themselves
in such a way where it's helpedthe other, it's helped the rest
of the world feel like it's okayto be, like, be yourself, you
know what I'm saying when you'renot cool.
You know what I'm saying Likeeven going all the way back when
I don't know what award itactually was for the Source.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Yeah, best group, best hip-hop group.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
And Stax said like Source.
Yeah, it was the Source Awards.
Right, stax was like Atlantagot the South got something to
say.
He wasn't just talking aboutAtlanta, but he was talking
about Texas, he was talkingabout Mississippi, he was
talking about a lot of thesepeople that never got a chance
to even open their mouth.
Man, you know what I'm saying,and be credible, right.
(18:39):
It's fucked up to not becredible, right.
Like what does that feel like?
Right?
So that makes you really proud.
You know what I'm saying.
To stand on what you are, whatyou had to fight for, just
having a voice voice, which is areally crazy thing for me,
because, like for me to be ableto say things.
And I have to say things now, Iwas born in 1987.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
So I was able to listen to all of the hip-hop.
Why I was actually climbing isinclined, even all the way when
Tupac and Biggie passed.
You know I'm saying, but tohear music like yeah, and to
know that is somebody behindthese songs and like I was a
(19:28):
young guy, like that's knowing,like why he doing that, all
these hits for thesemotherfuckers.
He could be doing it himself.
You ever made a song and beenlike, damn, I should have kept
it for myself.
I?
Speaker 1 (19:43):
get asked that all the time.
Man, my new single coming outnext month.
It's called Girlfriend Me,huncho and Plyce.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Thanks for that exclusive.
Yeah, y'all get it.
Y'all got it though.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Yes, sir, roll it up the boost.
I haven't told anybody that.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Love Honcho.
Yeah, imagine that Sean GarrettCrazy.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Crazy, crazy.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
But you remember the last blockbuster I did me Mario
and Gucci Mane.
That was actually my firstsingle.
Wow, that was actually my firstsingle.
I did me Mario and Gucci Mane.
That was actually my firstsingle.
Wow, yeah, that was actually myfirst single.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
That was my first single of my album yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Then the blockbuster before that was yeah, of course.
Yeah, I like to make thosesuper records.
I like to do things thatpeople-.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
It was an upgrade you .
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Yeah, now wait, wait wait.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
He said that was like the best collaboration he did.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Yeah, the best collab .
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Okay, okay, yeah, I would probably say, soulja was a
great collab too.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, soulja, dustyChild TI and.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Wayne.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Right.
We really thought about likethat Damn, that's fire.
I was really Excited about likeI just try to make music, man,
that's going to make the fanshappy, and sometimes I feel like
people don't catch it the firsttime around so I wait for them
to catch it.
Right, it's like oh, damn.
Oh damn Damn, you know what I'msaying.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
By the time they catch it, you're on to another
hit.
That's the whole thing, uh-huh.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
So I'm really, but I thank y'all too, man, the fans,
I thank the people, I thank themedia.
I just thank everybody, man,for being wise enough to
understand some of the shitthat's going on.
Uh-huh, media is important too.
Especially, you know, what'sreally great for me today Is to
(21:35):
see black media.
This is fucking hilarious forme, seriously, because I grew up
in Europe, so I'm from Atlanta,but I moved to Europe when I
was five.
So when you think about media,people don't even understand how
important media is.
Media is everything.
So you get a chance to like.
(21:55):
Media gives all the informationyes and it's like we never talk
in black, in black culture, wenever talk about media no, we
don't it's never been, it's notin schools, it's not what we
talk about every day.
But then you realize, like howdoes the information get out and
(22:16):
how does it change and what'sreal about it?
I realize that you know whatI'm saying every time I get a
chance to speak on the platform.
I just want to thank peoplethat do things appreciate it,
bro appreciate that media isimportant.
The reason I did this interviewtonight was because of that
little girl right there,mercedes.
Shout out, mercedes.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
That's interview tonight was because of that
little girl right there,Mercedes Shout out Mercedes man,
that's our baby man.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
She's not a little girl, she's a big girl.
She got big legs.
Yeah, yeah Me too.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
All right, looks man.
This is the Real of the Mostpodcast.
Make sure you share, like,subscribe, comment If you don't.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
You're a muff.
I hate it.
Why?
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Because it's free.
Listen, man, we play thesegames.
It's like two games.
I know you got to go.
We're just going to ask a fewgames, do a few questions and
it's going to wrap up theinterview.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
All right, White Boy, let them know about the game
Fast Track, the game called FastTrack.
I say two things, you pick oneup.
Say two things, you pick one orthe other um producer yeah, so
we we're gonna go um.
Okay, let's go.
(23:24):
How about this?
Let's do writers let's do yeahlet's do.
Let's do brian michael cox.
Let's do b Michael Cox.
Let's do Brian Michael Cox.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
You want some this Okay.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Or Neo.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Damn.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
That's a good one.
I probably have to go with BCox, because I love Ne-Yo too,
by the way.
I think Ne-Yo's an amazingsongwriter artist, but B Cox has
been doing this shit a longtime Legendary I think people
(24:04):
don't even realize how many hitshe got Shit.
That's my brother.
Shout out to my brother B Cox.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Yeah, shout out B Cox , there's too many.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
He was one of the producers that I really, really,
really used to talk to all thetime, man, because I used to be
like man these niggas is hatingon me.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
They did, though, but I'm telling you, these niggas
is hating on the niggas.
You know when you hot.
When you hot man, you hot.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
It'd be like certain niggas would tell me how you
know when somebody, hatingthough you, know, because when
you're a real motherfucker, whenyou really bout that you know
when they hating.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Yeah, you know when they hating They'll say some
shit to you Just hate ass nigga.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
You know what I'm saying, yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
They'll say some shit to you to make them look stupid
as fuck Right right.
But I can't lie, man.
I, like everybody that Icompete with you know.
I'm sorry.
I love the dream, yeah, I meanpeople think I don't like him,
but I like dream man, dreamdreams.
He's actually interesting asfunny person, right, I just like
(25:10):
whooping his ass.
I get a fucking kick out ofsmoking.
Motherfucker, you understand,you feel me Like.
I like him.
You know what I mean and I wantyou to get on the mother.
I'm one of his bro.
The biggest, the most highlightof my career was when he got on
there talking shit, right, Ifucking loved it.
I said, bro, I got so many.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
You was waiting for that shit.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Belt the ass, get it, man BTA.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Man, he was playing some bullshit too.
Why you all didn't?
Speaker 3 (25:41):
tell me you know what's fucked up.
Why is the world you know whatreally fucked me up?
Hey, you know some shit.
You know what I realized?
Nah, real shit, though.
Niggas is really Play your shit, dream what you're doing.
No, niggas was saying that Likeplay your shit Dream.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
It was time.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
I don't remember most of them.
Purple Heart I remember PurpleHeart.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
What the fuck is that , bro, what was going on?
Speaker 3 (26:45):
son, I want to ask you Yo stop him.
White boy stop him.
White boy, stop him.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Everybody was tripping on me.
Look man, I made it to thedance.
I was already motherfucking.
I was at the dance.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
I did everything I could to fuck the whole shit up.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
This nigga came on there and played some bullshit
and nobody said nothing.
So that let me know like.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
And you come over there and belt the ass, belt the
ass.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
I know I played at least 15 number ones.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
No, for sure, yeah, man, shout out them guys.
Man For sure you played 15number ones.
That was crazy, man.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
For sure you got me hot.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
You guys are the new Stephen A Smiths.
Y'all got to get a niggatogether when it's time.
Why y'all doing this?
Don't never let nobody do thatagain, guys.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
No real shit though.
No, no, no, Don't you ever goagainst somebody.
You ain't ready for man.
All right, so it's the cultureman.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
You got to stand tall .
I love Dream, though.
I love it.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
I'm telling you.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
I talk a lot of shit, man what?
Speaker 3 (27:45):
do you think about Versus Now, though?
You think it should continue,or we should do it.
How?
Speaker 2 (27:49):
about live in person.
That was amazing man.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
That was amazing.
Yeah, I mean we got any kind ofcompetitive vibe.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Right, right, it's good, it's good.
Yeah, I think that's great forthe culture.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
And music is man.
Y'all want to check out some ofthis new shit I'm doing Love to
.
I just got back from Africa.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
I was over there man.
Is it that vibe?
Speaker 1 (28:28):
What the vibe like the hello this ain't for me.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
I went to uh, tanzania, but I went to uh
tanzania.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
I went to zanzibar, I went to uh da salon.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
I went to kenya and I went to um fires.
Yeah well, you want to searchfor sounds or no?
No, no, I just actually wentthere to.
So I shout out to my boyDiamond Platts.
He's this incredible artist manfrom Tanzania.
He got one of the biggest songsout there.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Diamond Platts.
Look him up.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
I gave him the album of the year award at the Trace
Awards.
Okay, that shit was so fly.
It was actually.
They actually did the awards.
It was like the African Grammysand the shit was on the beach,
Damn.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
What time?
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Them Africans doing the damn thing.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
They got that money over there?
Yeah, they do.
I heard they bring out bolts ofchampagne when they in the club
.
They on some shit over there.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Yeah, man.
But yeah, got a chance to dothat and went to the award show
and then also got a chance to,you know, enjoy some culture.
You know, went to Da Salon,which is, you know, the mainland
from Tanzania.
It was beautiful man, just thefood, the culture.
People were beautiful, theywere so welcoming, did a lot of
(29:36):
interviews, work with um, shoutout to my boy man, um, uh, big
gaga man, big larry gaga um fromthe.
Uh, who's the ceo of um, of umgamma africa?
Um, those who know?
wow, that's big shit right there, and then I got a chance to you
(29:57):
know, shout out to Sony Africa.
Sony Africa, yeah man it wasjust really amazing.
Shout out to Kenya, shout outto Lagos.
Man, there's a lot of greatthings happening.
My favorite artist right now?
Can y'all tell me who myfavorite artist is?
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Right now.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Who y'all think my favorite artist is Davey, though
.
It's close.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Burner Boy, burner Boy, it's close.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
That's what I was about to say.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Burner Boy who is it Shout out to them?
I love Davey, though.
I got a song with Davey, though, by the way, liz K.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
When you going to Africa.
I know you looking for thatsound.
You looking for that sound, tim, and you about to go crazy.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
That's fine.
They all the hottest right now.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
They the hottest song Aira Star man, she's my
favorite.
Yeah, yeah, shout out Aira.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Ooh.
She hot, she hot, got somecrazy shit.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
But I just, you know, I like really very like very
unique artists and we're goingto change the world.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Come on man, I want you to stay unique yourself.
Man, let's keep on doing this.
Keep on bringing the sound tothe culture that's brand new.
Let them know how you bring itto the game and keep on doing
what you're doing bro, keep onpinning them up, man Pinning
them up.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
My new single comes out next month.
Man, I got to say this man,never let nobody put you in a
box guys, facts.
You know all the artists outhere.
Man is trying.
It feels like life is sodifficult or so complicated from
the perspective of, like youknow, people putting you in a
space.
Man, you just gotta.
If you a podcaster and you'rean artist at the same time, you
(31:36):
can do both yeah.
If you are a businessman and amanager, you can do both.
Mm-hmm, you know.
So don't let nobody put you ina box.
You know I just wanna be asmuch as I possibly can as an
influencer to people.
You know, as much as I possiblycan as an influence to people,
you know, hopefully you lovewhat I do, Hopefully I inspire
(31:58):
you and hopefully, you know, ifI get to know you, you inspire
me.
I just try to stay inspiredwith people.
Facts.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
And keep loving people Before you go.
I want you to let the peopleknow how to stay current, man,
because you always find your wayto stay current, like you
always stay with a hit.
You always stay working with anew artist, you always finding a
new sound.
How do you, like, always find acurve to stay current?
Speaker 1 (32:23):
I think being current is just being yourself really.
A lot of times, man, peopledon't know themselves right.
So not knowing yourself candate your ass.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
You feel me If you don't know you.
You dated in the mother, but meI just always been me and I
never been afraid to be myself,and so when I meet see, this is
like I meet you.
You're from Philly, right?
My dad's from Philly, my mom'sfrom Perry Holmes, so my mom and
(32:54):
dad met on Fort McPherson,Right.
So the part of me that lovesPhilly you know, this is a very
good conversation, right.
We could have dinner, we couldtalk about life right.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
I think limiting yourself from like expounding on
everything that makes youbetter, whether it be the person
you meet at you meet yourbarber, you meet.
I just love people.
You know what?
I'm saying I don't feel like I.
I never felt like I was betterthan anyone man, so I just I
think the humbleness of beinglike yourself keeps you current,
like how can you not be currentwhen you you know what I'm
(33:31):
saying?
Yeah like yeah when you, you,you you yeah, when you trying to
be something else.
You can't be current, you lostyeah so I'm so current and my
confidence, my confidence goeswith that, yeah, yeah so a
confident, a confident momentthat I know they sell is hell.
(33:53):
Facts.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
True to yourself.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Good point, that's currency.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Yeah, damn.
Stay confident to yourselfequals currency.
Let's get that right, man.
Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
So not only you current, you currency.
You know, motherfuckers knowwhat it is.
I can pull up anything I wantto, at any time At any day, like
why the fuck I ain't current?
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Pop it.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
So you're current C I would.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
And then you know that's not an overly exaggerated
perspective.
That's just like life.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Reality.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Yeah, that's your reality right, yeah, that's it.
If you can do what you want todo, why aren't you current?
Speaker 2 (34:33):
It's reality.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
That's reality.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
We're going to start One Gotta Go.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
One Gotta Go.
I named four things and we justpicked one to go.
Nothing personal, I'm going tosay four artists Drew Hill,
Jagged Edge, Jodeci, 112, onegot to go.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Not at all.
It get like that.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
It get like that, bro .
It's going to get worse.
This is the first one man onegot to go.
Yeah, it get worse.
This is the first one.
Damn this game tight, it's anice crew.
It's a nice crew, but guesswhat?
We shout out everybody by evensaying their names and being
able to put them in thosepillars.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
You know, what's beautiful about right now is
like R&B is like it's not makinga comeback, it's not making a
surge, it's just great.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
It's just floating.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
I feel like R&B feels really good.
I want to shout out a couplethings I really like right now.
Mariah Thee Sainz has got areally great song though.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Shout out to her.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
I love her music, shout out to her, she got
something going on.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
What's my man?
He got the song with Mike.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
I love Mike, you all know that song, say that again,
you all like the song with Mike.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
I love Mike.
You all know that song.
Say that again.
You all like the song Mike.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Mike Leon Thompson.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Leon Thomas.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Thomas, yeah, yeah, he hot.
He got the hottest song outright now.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
My song is really good.
It's a very intricate, it's anintegral take on love.
But he's being honest.
I like songs like that Right.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Yeah, yeah, let's do another one white boy.
Okay, let's do.
Why are you white boy, bro?
Because that's my name.
Okay, because he dressed like awhite boy.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Okay, well, let's go Tyrese Avant Joe Case Case.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
No Case a little.
No Case is one of them.
Bro Case is cool, he's one ofthem Joe's fire.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
All those guys are crazy.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Ain't they.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
One got to go.
One got to go.
They got to get kicked out ofthe car.
Avant Tyrese.
Who getting kicked out of thecar, avant Tyrese.
Who getting kicked out of thecar man?
They ain't putting no gas in it.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
I think those guys will be fighting to get out of
the car.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Uh-huh, it's a real wild game.
I think Tyrese he ain't lettingup.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
It'll be Tyrese.
Yeah, tyrese, staying, shoutout, tyrese.
What's up brother?
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Yeah, he staying.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
Shout out my brother.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
He staying.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Yup.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Sorry, we riding four deep.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Y'all gotta figure this out Avant that game, right?
Speaker 3 (37:29):
there Avant.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Probably Avant for me .
Yeah, he might get singing.
I love Tank, though you knowwhat.
You gotta throw Jaheim.
You gotta start throwing Jaheimin there too, Okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Nah Put Jaheim with life or something I don't know,
maybe yeah with life, there yougo.
Yeah, fill him with life, myboy Kevin, 100.
My boy said yeah All right this, the last one right here, man.
You a nut Nah but you know whatlet's change?
Speaker 1 (38:03):
that though.
Yeah, man, what were you withmotherfucking Versus night?
What were you, white boy?
I didn't see you on the scope,white boy.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
He couldn't call you white boy, that's funny.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Yeah, why did y'all let like somebody got to talk to
me.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
Yo, we coaching verses now, man for now on,
Swiss got to holler at us.
He thought he could hang inthere with you Swiss got to
holler at us I just want to asky'all.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
He thought he could hang in there.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
It was like another ride that night though right, he
thought he could hang in.
I just want to make sure wegoing to call it spade to spade.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
We going to call it spade to spade, man.
We talking about multi-platinumalbums, man.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
He thought he could hang in there with you.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
We talking about number ones after number ones.
It ain't no reason to play them, and I love.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Dream bro, I'm telling you.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
I love Dream If it wasn't you.
I know y'all love Dream man.
I know y'all love Dream man.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
That's why I give him some of my stuff.
No, if it wasn't you, it wouldhave probably been like a big,
big argument.
You know what I'm saying, butbeing as though you came through
, how you came through, see.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
I'm a realist with the music.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
I ain't got nothing to say.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
That was a rough stop , you got too many.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
It was a rough stop.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
You got too many Billboard Hot 100s Rematch.
Let's get it.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Yeah, let's get it this time.
And he bringing Rilla the mostwith him too.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Swiss this time.
Right here, Y'all can say thatI ain't going to say it.
I ain't going to say it.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
No, we going to judge this one right I just want to
make sure I get paid.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
For sure no I got paid, but I want to make sure I
get paid for it.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Yeah, man paper and history.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
And you're going to have some more number ones by
then too.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
So let's get it.
The Dream is going to fuckingbe mad.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
He's going to be mad.
Shout out to Dream man.
Shout out to guys man.
Shout out to everybody else.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
I really think Honcho going to be one of the biggest
artists in 2026.
I yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, hell.
Yeah, I'm with that.
I like that white boy All right, let's go.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Last one right here the big major one.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Just wrap it up, Jay-Z.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Birdman, dr Dre, diddy, jermaine Dupri oh damn,
One got to go.
You switched it.
One got to go.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
Mmm, you snapped.
He snapped on you.
Yeah, I don't know.
He just snapped on you.
I don't know what you're goingto say.
I think all those guys arereally great.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
All those guys are great, right?
Speaker 1 (40:29):
I can't do nothing with it Damn.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
If it was up to me, I would go probably with the I be
thinking like damn, can I livewithout the West Coast music
like Dr Dre and them?
I can't.
Sometimes I be thinking I can.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
You saw that boy, kendrick, go crazy.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
I know right, he going crazy, Drake going nuts
too.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
I love Kendrick.
Shout out to Mustard man.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
I love Mustard, mustard going wild.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
That music was really good, though, Really really
good.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
You can't drop For.
You can't drop it.
Yo, it's not one person on thatlist you can get rid of for
real.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
It's just hard West Coast.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Especially Jermaine Dupri.
Yeah, it's hard, jermaine'shard.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Yeah, I can tell you, it's hard, it's hard.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
Listen, it's the Real or the Most podcast man.
I'm Real, I'm.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
WhiteboyD2A.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
Make sure you share, man.
We got Sean Garrett in thebuilding.
Man, that's our ski, we talkingour shit, we popping it.
Man, this is real as it gets.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Man, this is where you're going to come from
Telling y'all niggas, man, y'allget y'all 20 together, anybody
in versus nigga, and make surethey top 100.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
20 piece, exactly.
I swear to God, bro, that's therealest shit.
Get you a 20 piece and comefuck with a nigga.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Y'all heard it here first on Realer Than Moose.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
Get y'all a 20 piece and come fuck with a nigga.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Get y'all 20 pieces together, nigga.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
I don't care who it is.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
And we out, we out.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
All the new ones too.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
The new boys be talking crazy.
Get you a nice 20, get they 20clipped together.
They gotta be billboard, theygotta be hot 100 number ones,
that's been at least.
At least At least six weeks.
Number one At least.
At least Y'all heard it here.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
First.
It's the realest and mostpodcast.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
Sean Garrett in the building and he ain't just
talking, he popping it Big shit,we talking, big dollars, big
shit, big hits, let's get it 20piece chicken nugget.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
Get that shit together.
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
It's White Boy D2A.
I'm Roland and we just wrappedup the craziest, craziest
interview.
Sam, hold me down for the lightskin niggas.
Yeah, yeah, I Hold me down forthe light skin niggas.
And a certain thing, is acertain blame, is a certain
package y'all trying to be in.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I might have to do certain little things that might
get me to trust them, but ifthis is really the most podcast,
Keep it coming.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
If you don't, you're a motherfucking a**.
Why?
Because we're afraid Really themost podcast.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Oh man, it's the Rilla the Most podcast.
I'm Rilla, I'm White Boy D2A,and you know we got a special
guest in the building today,uh-huh.
This is not just any guest,though, man.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
This is somebody like that.
Really, really, man put somerespect on this man's name.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah, this man has shaped this generation of sound
in an R&B way, in a hip-hop way,and just some of the anthems
that's known all over the radio.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
If you cried to a song, you drove in the car
singing your heart out Uh-huh,Uh-huh.
Nine times out of ten it washis song.
That's just the facts.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
That's a big fact.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
That's a big fact, Like Day-Z called him the pen.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Bro, he's the pen, like he the pen.
Come on, man.
This the real of the mostpodcast.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Make sure you share, like, subscribe, comment.
If you don't, you a muff.
I hate it.
And why?
Because it's free.
It's fucking free, bro, it'sfree.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
We got Sean Garrett in the building today.
The Sean Garrett in thebuilding y'all the pin, the pin.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
So how you feeling today?
I feel well, man.
I feel great man.
I'm sitting next to the legend,you know what I'm.
Come on, man, come on.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
How you feeling today , sean, how you feeling.
Life is great, man, life isgreat.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Extremely blessed man , just you know, definitely want
to come out and highlight youguys.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Man Appreciate you, sean, highly appreciate you
Seriously.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
You know?
Just let them know, I be in thehood.
Yeah, and I don't be in thehood.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Right right, right right.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah, yeah, you sitting down with us.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
You definitely in the hood, my man, you in the hood
right now, you know what I'msaying.
You with the culture, youletting them know.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yeah, we letting them know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,yeah man.
No man.
So you know man.
You know you just being incharge of a lot of great music
that this generation has beenhere to witness, man, and you
know you just part of and justbeing able to pin and construct
(03:09):
and move around and do what youdo the best.
How'd that feel, man?
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Like how'd that feel?
I mean at this point, man, youknow it's become.
You know, and not to sound likefacetious or nothing like that,
but it's just become a naturalthing.
You know what I'm saying.
I've been doing this shit sinceI was a kid and you know.
The good thing about life isthat you know, you grow, you
build, you learn you earn.
You know what I'm saying andit's never, I think, sometimes
(03:38):
at this place in my life I onlyhear two sides of life the
struggle and great.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Right, Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Meaning like people are rich.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yeah, right, and unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
you know, my goal was to see people meet in the
middle.
Okay, so, you know, my journeyis still up right, right.
So I'm just trying to blend theworld world, you know, trying
to help people who are reallytalented, like find them, find
their way yeah, and just be assupportive as I possibly can as
(04:11):
a hit maker right at the sametime, you know, as an artist,
should you know, I'm gonna do me.
I'm outside doing um.
My new single comes out nextmonth.
I I'm out doing shows, doingtours.
I just came from Africa, gotsome really big cool things
coming about.
Last year I went to SeoulCareer and that was really
(04:38):
amazing because one of thesingles that I did out there for
this new group, or this newgroup, it's just not coming out
next week.
Okay and um still working yeah,yeah.
So you know, I like to talkabout everything that I'm doing,
but sometimes shit resonates,sometimes don't, in reference to
(04:59):
like where everybody is rightright, I do music in Seoul,
Korea, and I live in America.
I do music in Africa and I'm inAmerica.
I try to do as best as I can inAmerica to keep on making you
know, trying to change thingsand stuff like that.
So it's just like, man, it's agreat.
It's just a great challenge,because everything doesn't make,
(05:22):
everything is not always alwaysgonna make sense when you do it
yeah it's just a journey right
Speaker 3 (05:27):
you know, yeah, with billboard calling you the
fastest hit maker, is that achallenge?
Speaker 1 (05:33):
yeah, the fastest, yeah, I had the most number ones
in the shortest period of time,in the shortest period of time
in billboard history, for real.
Yeah, I try to talk to thesepeople.
Come on, man, we talking to thelittle corners on the blocks
right now I'm letting you knowyeah, man, it's been a journey
man, yeah, I really can't.
(05:55):
Man, I'm very proud, I'm veryproud.
Thank you, bless.
And I just want to be anexample to people that, like you
know, if you work hard, youstay focused, you stop looking
at the things that didn't happen.
(06:15):
You know, in my conversationswith people these days, I just
try to give as much informationas I feel like that can help
people.
And I feel like sometimespeople pay too much attention to
like what didn't happen, whathurt you, what I could have did.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, or this person didn't dothis.
It's like I look for themoments that it's like this shit
(06:37):
ain't working, this ain't whereI need to be.
Well, I won't say this ain'tworking, but I will look at a
situation and I'll be.
If this is not where I'msupposed to be, then I just have
to patiently, respectfully, saylet me, let me regroup.
And I think sometimes peopledon't hold themselves
accountable.
Right.
You know holding yourselfaccountable is just as it's just
(06:59):
as important as making it orjust as important as scoring.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I think that's important.
I think that's important.
I think that's important.
So you being like a musicalgenius, safe to say, and you
working with the likes of aBeyonce, the likes of a Nicki
Minaj, the likes of a Ludacris,what give you that balance?
You know what I mean, from theR&B to the hip-hop.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
I would say them Yeahhop.
I would say them.
Yeah, I would say them.
I would say my way I was raised.
I would say the way I grew up,my household, you know, I feel
like you know, when you getaround people, two things gonna
happen yeah either y'all gonnaget along or you're not.
Either you gonna learn, learnsomething or you're not.
Uh, who you are will come outright right when you get around
(07:50):
great people, it becomesenergetic, it becomes fun.
You know, I mean when you're,you know when you know I'm from
the jungle.
But when I get around peoplefrom the jungle, shit can turn
into the jungle.
Yeah, but when I be aroundpeople who have great
personality, or people that'sexcited about the same thing I'm
(08:11):
excited about, then I tend tolighten up a little bit right,
get excited, smile a little moreand get into what it is I like
to do.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Yeah, as I tapped in on that verse, bro, I didn't
even know, I'm telling you, youmade me do my research.
I did my homework.
I said he really the pen.
He wrote everything.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Everything.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Everything.
So when he, on that verse, ispopping his shit the way he
popping it, it was a reasonbehind that.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Sometimes you got to let the people know how did the
verses come up to you?
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Yo, it was funny as hell but at the same time
entertaining.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
It was like you was popping your shit because I
would probably say that'sprobably the one time I ever got
caught off guard.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Nah, nah, nah, nah.
I time I ever got caught offguard Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
I feel like I got caught off guard Because I
really that was a tough day inreference to just like where I'm
at in my normal life Okay, okay, and I just came from the
dentist.
My mouth was swollen.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Oh shit, I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
I had two root canals oh shit and I was asleep, I, I
was sleeping.
I was actually sleeping, man,my boy Bobby, one of my best
friends.
We went to go get lunch too,and I came.
I was on the way back and I wassleeping in this Jeep and man
Swizzy called me.
He was like yo, nigga, we doingthe motherfucking.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Versus the night I'm like what.
I'm ready.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
I mean, just imagine somebody calling you out of your
Bro.
I'm on pain pills for realRight.
Like, I ain't even tripping.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah, two root canals .
Speaker 1 (09:53):
I was really a little bit zooted right and but I
still wanted to hold him down.
So I said, you know, I stillhad like an hour or so to get
ready, man.
But you know, but I do feellike you know, the truth of who
I am will always prevail.
(10:13):
You know, I'm very competitiveyou know, but I am a
professional, so I felt that day.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
I looked at that shit like this rich ass nigga got
all these hits.
He lit right now he having funwith it and he letting y'all
know he got that shit,regardless of how y'all want to
hear it.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Let's get it.
You know, everything else wasreal.
I was just a little bit.
You know I was trying to be you.
You know the one thing aboutthis business man, it's like
they judge you.
It's too much you can never beperfect, you know um, but as
(10:55):
much as given, much as we werequired.
So I try to be on my best yeahyou know I try, I try to
represent for the world as bestas they can.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
We know that, though we know that I look at it as,
like you know, we human.
So, yeah, you have anincredible talent.
You know what I mean, but youwas at the dentist that day.
You know what I'm saying, soyou know things happen.
We live in life.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
And I was at my crib, you know, comfortable, because
this is when we were in.
Um, this is covet.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Yeah, so if it would have beena setting, of course I wouldn't
show up.
But but anyway, man, I justwanted to say thank you all
appreciate you whomever got thegift that, what god gave us to
give that day.
Um, if there was nothing elsethat people understood about me,
(11:41):
it's just no, I don't playaround.
I'm definitely definitelyserious about them,
motherfucking hits.
And the dream got his ass smoked.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
This is the.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Ruling the Most podcast yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
And tell them don't come back because I got to have
about 20 more.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I said, man, Looking at your discography man, I said
it just won't end.
And then the thing about yoursis they top Billboard Top 100.
There you go.
You got to talk to them in thatway there you go, see, they
(12:22):
love it.
There you go, they got hits.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
No, I make categories out here.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
They're not those.
That shit get different.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yes, they do.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
But you know what, man, I have to be careful with
popping my shit because I don'twant to annoy.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Not on the Real of the Most podcast.
It's cool, I'll pop it for you.
That's what we doing here.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
we pop shit, that's what happened yeah, man, yeah,
we just be we.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
We be wanting to uh the guts to um, to understand
you know what's funny, but thecrazy is like the been hating on
me my whole career, bro.
I've been wanting to say thatso long they've been hating on
the niggas.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Wild.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Nah, I'm really him, Like I've been on their ass.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
For a long time, Bro.
I came in it.
You proud of me.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
But, you motherfuckers know who you are.
I've been whooping y'all assand I mean this in a respectful
way, like what I loved aboutwhen I came in the game it was
very competitive.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Today it's like Mm-hmm, whatever.
It's just like anybody iswriting songs, you know, and I
don't mean it in a bad way, Ijust mean like Bro you made.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Yeah, that was like a reset to the whole culture,
culture Facts, like we heardthat song, it brought new lights
and new colors.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
And it's not just for me To keep that level up there,
but it's all of us, man.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
We can be nice about it bro, we can sit here and play
.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
We can play nice, but let's just keep it above.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
We all want to win.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
We all want our music to be at the top.
We all want our football teamto be number one.
We all want our let's keep it abing, yep, yep, the highest
level.
Or wanting to be great, I'llsay that so I love it and I'm
(14:23):
very unapologetic by being greatat it.
Or wanting to be great, I'llsay that I'll let people say
what they think, but I'm goingto talk my shit when it comes to
the number ones.
I'm going to pop my shitBecause people sometimes Be
really tripping when they becalling shit what it is.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
But you got to say something sometimes.
But, sometimes you don't.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Sometimes you keep working.
You ain't gotta say everythingall the time.
I'm so thankful, man, for thisjourney.
I gotta shout out a lot ofpeople that inspired me.
I'm very proud of JermaineDupri.
Jermaine is like one of the.
He's one of my favoriteproducers and the reason I like
Jermaine is like one of the.
He's one of my favoriteproducers and the reason I like
Jermaine so much is like I feellike Jermaine is cocky but he
(15:08):
not right.
Right, jermaine is like reallythe truth confident he's.
He's very confident, but he'sso responsible for so much.
Yes, he is he really to be, tobe who he really is, because he
inspires when he trying toinspire.
Right, he from atlanta.
Atlanta was a small, a smallspace right on the map, man,
(15:28):
when he came along.
You know what I'm saying, orwhen you know he made it way
broad, all of those guys, man,it's just like when you think
about so so the pioneers of likeatlanta music right um dallas
austin, you know, goodyody Mob,goody Mob.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Babyface LA Reid, babyface LA Reid, babyface it
wasn't defined.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
That's a very difficult thing.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Like people don't really understand how hard that
is to become something whenthere is nothing right.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yeah so.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
I got to give you know, I got to give that up to
Jermaine man.
I love Jermaine and as long ashe's continuing, the more I like
him as my compadre, as somebodywho I really respect and look
up to.
I just wanted to say that today.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Yeah, his resume is crazy.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Yeah, and as a guy that did so much in music, and
to continue to keep going andthrobbing and to make sounds new
and work with the new artistsis like he never stopped.
You're from New York, right.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Philly.
You're from Philly, yeah.
Oh man, man, my dad's fromPhilly, yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Yeah, we from Philly.
You got some Philly.
We both from Philly.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Yeah, you know, it's in there, man, it's in there man
, we all over man a littlesprinkle everywhere yeah, I was
gonna say to you guys one thingabout atlanta is we are very,
very, very proud to be fromatlanta, and southern people are
already kind of like very niceand very like.
(17:00):
You know we love people, we'revery loving right, but we really
don't around and play either.
So it gets really it can gofrom right to left real quick.
That's what people didn't knowuntil they came to Atlanta.
They'd be like oh damn, thesemotherfuckers, really they get
wild they like that right butthe reason why we are so like
standing on music is because Ithink we have defined music in a
(17:26):
way that made people reallyrealize like you could really be
yourself.
You know, I'm very man, I'mvery much myself.
Yeah, you know, I've never donean interview like this, right
here, right yeah, but yeah todaywas short on time but at the
end of the day, I'm myself.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
You chillin'.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
And I think Atlanta has defined you know themselves
in such a way where it's helpedthe other, it's helped the rest
of the world feel like it's okayto be, like, be yourself, you
know what I'm saying when you'renot cool.
You know what I'm saying Likeeven going all the way back when
I don't know what award itactually was for the Source.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Yeah, best group, best hip-hop group.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
And Stax said like Source.
Yeah, it was the Source Awards.
Right, stax was like Atlantagot the South got something to
say.
He wasn't just talking aboutAtlanta, but he was talking
about Texas, he was talkingabout Mississippi, he was
talking about a lot of thesepeople that never got a chance
to even open their mouth.
Man, you know what I'm saying,and be credible, right.
(18:39):
It's fucked up to not becredible, right.
Like what does that feel like?
Right?
So that makes you really proud.
You know what I'm saying.
To stand on what you are, whatyou had to fight for, just
having a voice voice, which is areally crazy thing for me,
because, like for me to be ableto say things.
And I have to say things now, Iwas born in 1987.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
So I was able to listen to all of the hip-hop.
Why I was actually climbing isinclined, even all the way when
Tupac and Biggie passed.
You know I'm saying, but tohear music like yeah, and to
know that is somebody behindthese songs and like I was a
(19:28):
young guy, like that's knowing,like why he doing that, all
these hits for thesemotherfuckers.
He could be doing it himself.
You ever made a song and beenlike, damn, I should have kept
it for myself.
I?
Speaker 1 (19:43):
get asked that all the time.
Man, my new single coming outnext month.
It's called Girlfriend Me,huncho and Plyce.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Thanks for that exclusive.
Yeah, y'all get it.
Y'all got it though.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Yes, sir, roll it up the boost.
I haven't told anybody that.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Love Honcho.
Yeah, imagine that Sean GarrettCrazy.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Crazy, crazy.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
But you remember the last blockbuster I did me Mario
and Gucci Mane.
That was actually my firstsingle.
Wow, that was actually my firstsingle.
I did me Mario and Gucci Mane.
That was actually my firstsingle.
Wow, yeah, that was actually myfirst single.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
That was my first single of my album yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Then the blockbuster before that was yeah, of course.
Yeah, I like to make thosesuper records.
I like to do things thatpeople-.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
It was an upgrade you .
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Yeah, now wait, wait wait.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
He said that was like the best collaboration he did.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Yeah, the best collab .
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Okay, okay, yeah, I would probably say, soulja was a
great collab too.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, soulja, dustyChild TI and.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Wayne.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Right.
We really thought about likethat Damn, that's fire.
I was really Excited about likeI just try to make music, man,
that's going to make the fanshappy, and sometimes I feel like
people don't catch it the firsttime around so I wait for them
to catch it.
Right, it's like oh, damn.
Oh damn Damn, you know what I'msaying.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
By the time they catch it, you're on to another
hit.
That's the whole thing, uh-huh.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
So I'm really, but I thank y'all too, man, the fans,
I thank the people, I thank themedia.
I just thank everybody, man,for being wise enough to
understand some of the shitthat's going on.
Uh-huh, media is important too.
Especially, you know, what'sreally great for me today Is to
(21:35):
see black media.
This is fucking hilarious forme, seriously, because I grew up
in Europe, so I'm from Atlanta,but I moved to Europe when I
was five.
So when you think about media,people don't even understand how
important media is.
Media is everything.
So you get a chance to like.
(21:55):
Media gives all the informationyes and it's like we never talk
in black, in black culture, wenever talk about media no, we
don't it's never been, it's notin schools, it's not what we
talk about every day.
But then you realize, like howdoes the information get out and
(22:16):
how does it change and what'sreal about it?
I realize that you know whatI'm saying every time I get a
chance to speak on the platform.
I just want to thank peoplethat do things appreciate it,
bro appreciate that media isimportant.
The reason I did this interviewtonight was because of that
little girl right there,mercedes.
Shout out, mercedes.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
That's interview tonight was because of that
little girl right there,Mercedes Shout out Mercedes man,
that's our baby man.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
She's not a little girl, she's a big girl.
She got big legs.
Yeah, yeah Me too.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
All right, looks man.
This is the Real of the Mostpodcast.
Make sure you share, like,subscribe, comment If you don't.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
You're a muff.
I hate it.
Why?
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Because it's free.
Listen, man, we play thesegames.
It's like two games.
I know you got to go.
We're just going to ask a fewgames, do a few questions and
it's going to wrap up theinterview.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
All right, White Boy, let them know about the game
Fast Track, the game called FastTrack.
I say two things, you pick oneup.
Say two things, you pick one orthe other um producer yeah, so
we we're gonna go um.
Okay, let's go.
(23:24):
How about this?
Let's do writers let's do yeahlet's do.
Let's do brian michael cox.
Let's do b Michael Cox.
Let's do Brian Michael Cox.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
You want some this Okay.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Or Neo.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Damn.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
That's a good one.
I probably have to go with BCox, because I love Ne-Yo too,
by the way.
I think Ne-Yo's an amazingsongwriter artist, but B Cox has
been doing this shit a longtime Legendary I think people
(24:04):
don't even realize how many hitshe got Shit.
That's my brother.
Shout out to my brother B Cox.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Yeah, shout out B Cox , there's too many.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
He was one of the producers that I really, really,
really used to talk to all thetime, man, because I used to be
like man these niggas is hatingon me.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
They did, though, but I'm telling you, these niggas
is hating on the niggas.
You know when you hot.
When you hot man, you hot.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
It'd be like certain niggas would tell me how you
know when somebody, hatingthough you, know, because when
you're a real motherfucker, whenyou really bout that you know
when they hating.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Yeah, you know when they hating They'll say some
shit to you Just hate ass nigga.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
You know what I'm saying, yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
They'll say some shit to you to make them look stupid
as fuck Right right.
But I can't lie, man.
I, like everybody that Icompete with you know.
I'm sorry.
I love the dream, yeah, I meanpeople think I don't like him,
but I like dream man, dreamdreams.
He's actually interesting asfunny person, right, I just like
(25:10):
whooping his ass.
I get a fucking kick out ofsmoking.
Motherfucker, you understand,you feel me Like.
I like him.
You know what I mean and I wantyou to get on the mother.
I'm one of his bro.
The biggest, the most highlightof my career was when he got on
there talking shit, right, Ifucking loved it.
I said, bro, I got so many.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
You was waiting for that shit.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Belt the ass, get it, man BTA.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Man, he was playing some bullshit too.
Why you all didn't?
Speaker 3 (25:41):
tell me you know what's fucked up.
Why is the world you know whatreally fucked me up?
Hey, you know some shit.
You know what I realized?
Nah, real shit, though.
Niggas is really Play your shit, dream what you're doing.
No, niggas was saying that Likeplay your shit Dream.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
It was time.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
I don't remember most of them.
Purple Heart I remember PurpleHeart.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
What the fuck is that , bro, what was going on?
Speaker 3 (26:45):
son, I want to ask you Yo stop him.
White boy stop him.
White boy, stop him.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Everybody was tripping on me.
Look man, I made it to thedance.
I was already motherfucking.
I was at the dance.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
I did everything I could to fuck the whole shit up.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
This nigga came on there and played some bullshit
and nobody said nothing.
So that let me know like.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
And you come over there and belt the ass, belt the
ass.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
I know I played at least 15 number ones.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
No, for sure, yeah, man, shout out them guys.
Man For sure you played 15number ones.
That was crazy, man.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
For sure you got me hot.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
You guys are the new Stephen A Smiths.
Y'all got to get a niggatogether when it's time.
Why y'all doing this?
Don't never let nobody do thatagain, guys.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
No real shit though.
No, no, no, Don't you ever goagainst somebody.
You ain't ready for man.
All right, so it's the cultureman.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
You got to stand tall .
I love Dream, though.
I love it.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
I'm telling you.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
I talk a lot of shit, man what?
Speaker 3 (27:45):
do you think about Versus Now, though?
You think it should continue,or we should do it.
How?
Speaker 2 (27:49):
about live in person.
That was amazing man.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
That was amazing.
Yeah, I mean we got any kind ofcompetitive vibe.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Right, right, it's good, it's good.
Yeah, I think that's great forthe culture.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
And music is man.
Y'all want to check out some ofthis new shit I'm doing Love to
.
I just got back from Africa.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
I was over there man.
Is it that vibe?
Speaker 1 (28:28):
What the vibe like the hello this ain't for me.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
I went to uh, tanzania, but I went to uh
tanzania.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
I went to zanzibar, I went to uh da salon.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
I went to kenya and I went to um fires.
Yeah well, you want to searchfor sounds or no?
No, no, I just actually wentthere to.
So I shout out to my boyDiamond Platts.
He's this incredible artist manfrom Tanzania.
He got one of the biggest songsout there.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Diamond Platts.
Look him up.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
I gave him the album of the year award at the Trace
Awards.
Okay, that shit was so fly.
It was actually.
They actually did the awards.
It was like the African Grammysand the shit was on the beach,
Damn.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
What time?
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Them Africans doing the damn thing.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
They got that money over there?
Yeah, they do.
I heard they bring out bolts ofchampagne when they in the club
.
They on some shit over there.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Yeah, man.
But yeah, got a chance to dothat and went to the award show
and then also got a chance to,you know, enjoy some culture.
You know, went to Da Salon,which is, you know, the mainland
from Tanzania.
It was beautiful man, just thefood, the culture.
People were beautiful, theywere so welcoming, did a lot of
(29:36):
interviews, work with um, shoutout to my boy man, um, uh, big
gaga man, big larry gaga um fromthe.
Uh, who's the ceo of um, of umgamma africa?
Um, those who know?
wow, that's big shit right there, and then I got a chance to you
(29:57):
know, shout out to Sony Africa.
Sony Africa, yeah man it wasjust really amazing.
Shout out to Kenya, shout outto Lagos.
Man, there's a lot of greatthings happening.
My favorite artist right now?
Can y'all tell me who myfavorite artist is?
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Right now.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Who y'all think my favorite artist is Davey, though
.
It's close.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Burner Boy, burner Boy, it's close.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
That's what I was about to say.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Burner Boy who is it Shout out to them?
I love Davey, though.
I got a song with Davey, though, by the way, liz K.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
When you going to Africa.
I know you looking for thatsound.
You looking for that sound, tim, and you about to go crazy.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
That's fine.
They all the hottest right now.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
They the hottest song Aira Star man, she's my
favorite.
Yeah, yeah, shout out Aira.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Ooh.
She hot, she hot, got somecrazy shit.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
But I just, you know, I like really very like very
unique artists and we're goingto change the world.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Come on man, I want you to stay unique yourself.
Man, let's keep on doing this.
Keep on bringing the sound tothe culture that's brand new.
Let them know how you bring itto the game and keep on doing
what you're doing bro, keep onpinning them up, man Pinning
them up.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
My new single comes out next month.
Man, I got to say this man,never let nobody put you in a
box guys, facts.
You know all the artists outhere.
Man is trying.
It feels like life is sodifficult or so complicated from
the perspective of, like youknow, people putting you in a
space.
Man, you just gotta.
If you a podcaster and you'rean artist at the same time, you
(31:36):
can do both yeah.
If you are a businessman and amanager, you can do both.
Mm-hmm, you know.
So don't let nobody put you ina box.
You know I just wanna be asmuch as I possibly can as an
influencer to people.
You know, as much as I possiblycan as an influence to people,
you know, hopefully you lovewhat I do, Hopefully I inspire
(31:58):
you and hopefully, you know, ifI get to know you, you inspire
me.
I just try to stay inspiredwith people.
Facts.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
And keep loving people Before you go.
I want you to let the peopleknow how to stay current, man,
because you always find your wayto stay current, like you
always stay with a hit.
You always stay working with anew artist, you always finding a
new sound.
How do you, like, always find acurve to stay current?
Speaker 1 (32:23):
I think being current is just being yourself really.
A lot of times, man, peopledon't know themselves right.
So not knowing yourself candate your ass.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
You feel me If you don't know you.
You dated in the mother, but meI just always been me and I
never been afraid to be myself,and so when I meet see, this is
like I meet you.
You're from Philly, right?
My dad's from Philly, my mom'sfrom Perry Holmes, so my mom and
(32:54):
dad met on Fort McPherson,Right.
So the part of me that lovesPhilly you know, this is a very
good conversation, right.
We could have dinner, we couldtalk about life right.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
I think limiting yourself from like expounding on
everything that makes youbetter, whether it be the person
you meet at you meet yourbarber, you meet.
I just love people.
You know what?
I'm saying I don't feel like I.
I never felt like I was betterthan anyone man, so I just I
think the humbleness of beinglike yourself keeps you current,
like how can you not be currentwhen you you know what I'm
(33:31):
saying?
Yeah like yeah when you, you,you you yeah, when you trying to
be something else.
You can't be current, you lostyeah so I'm so current and my
confidence, my confidence goeswith that, yeah, yeah so a
confident, a confident momentthat I know they sell is hell.
(33:53):
Facts.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
True to yourself.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Good point, that's currency.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Yeah, damn.
Stay confident to yourselfequals currency.
Let's get that right, man.
Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
So not only you current, you currency.
You know, motherfuckers knowwhat it is.
I can pull up anything I wantto, at any time At any day, like
why the fuck I ain't current?
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Pop it.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
So you're current C I would.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
And then you know that's not an overly exaggerated
perspective.
That's just like life.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Reality.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Yeah, that's your reality right, yeah, that's it.
If you can do what you want todo, why aren't you current?
Speaker 2 (34:33):
It's reality.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
That's reality.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
We're going to start One Gotta Go.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
One Gotta Go.
I named four things and we justpicked one to go.
Nothing personal, I'm going tosay four artists Drew Hill,
Jagged Edge, Jodeci, 112, onegot to go.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Not at all.
It get like that.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
It get like that, bro .
It's going to get worse.
This is the first one man onegot to go.
Yeah, it get worse.
This is the first one.
Damn this game tight, it's anice crew.
It's a nice crew, but guesswhat?
We shout out everybody by evensaying their names and being
able to put them in thosepillars.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
You know, what's beautiful about right now is
like R&B is like it's not makinga comeback, it's not making a
surge, it's just great.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
It's just floating.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
I feel like R&B feels really good.
I want to shout out a couplethings I really like right now.
Mariah Thee Sainz has got areally great song though.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Shout out to her.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
I love her music, shout out to her, she got
something going on.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
What's my man?
He got the song with Mike.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
I love Mike, you all know that song, say that again,
you all like the song with Mike.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
I love Mike.
You all know that song.
Say that again.
You all like the song Mike.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Mike Leon Thompson.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Leon Thomas.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Thomas, yeah, yeah, he hot.
He got the hottest song outright now.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
My song is really good.
It's a very intricate, it's anintegral take on love.
But he's being honest.
I like songs like that Right.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Yeah, yeah, let's do another one white boy.
Okay, let's do.
Why are you white boy, bro?
Because that's my name.
Okay, because he dressed like awhite boy.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Okay, well, let's go Tyrese Avant Joe Case Case.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
No Case a little.
No Case is one of them.
Bro Case is cool, he's one ofthem Joe's fire.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
All those guys are crazy.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Ain't they.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
One got to go.
One got to go.
They got to get kicked out ofthe car.
Avant Tyrese.
Who getting kicked out of thecar, avant Tyrese.
Who getting kicked out of thecar man?
They ain't putting no gas in it.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
I think those guys will be fighting to get out of
the car.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Uh-huh, it's a real wild game.
I think Tyrese he ain't lettingup.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
It'll be Tyrese.
Yeah, tyrese, staying, shoutout, tyrese.
What's up brother?
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Yeah, he staying.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
Shout out my brother.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
He staying.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Yup.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Sorry, we riding four deep.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Y'all gotta figure this out Avant that game, right?
Speaker 3 (37:29):
there Avant.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Probably Avant for me .
Yeah, he might get singing.
I love Tank, though you knowwhat.
You gotta throw Jaheim.
You gotta start throwing Jaheimin there too, Okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Nah Put Jaheim with life or something I don't know,
maybe yeah with life, there yougo.
Yeah, fill him with life, myboy Kevin, 100.
My boy said yeah All right this, the last one right here, man.
You a nut Nah but you know whatlet's change?
Speaker 1 (38:03):
that though.
Yeah, man, what were you withmotherfucking Versus night?
What were you, white boy?
I didn't see you on the scope,white boy.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
He couldn't call you white boy, that's funny.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Yeah, why did y'all let like somebody got to talk to
me.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
Yo, we coaching verses now, man for now on,
Swiss got to holler at us.
He thought he could hang inthere with you Swiss got to
holler at us I just want to asky'all.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
He thought he could hang in there.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
It was like another ride that night though right, he
thought he could hang in.
I just want to make sure wegoing to call it spade to spade.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
We going to call it spade to spade, man.
We talking about multi-platinumalbums, man.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
He thought he could hang in there with you.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
We talking about number ones after number ones.
It ain't no reason to play them, and I love.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Dream bro, I'm telling you.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
I love Dream If it wasn't you.
I know y'all love Dream man.
I know y'all love Dream man.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
That's why I give him some of my stuff.
No, if it wasn't you, it wouldhave probably been like a big,
big argument.
You know what I'm saying, butbeing as though you came through
, how you came through, see.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
I'm a realist with the music.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
I ain't got nothing to say.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
That was a rough stop , you got too many.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
It was a rough stop.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
You got too many Billboard Hot 100s Rematch.
Let's get it.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Yeah, let's get it this time.
And he bringing Rilla the mostwith him too.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Swiss this time.
Right here, Y'all can say thatI ain't going to say it.
I ain't going to say it.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
No, we going to judge this one right I just want to
make sure I get paid.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
For sure no I got paid, but I want to make sure I
get paid for it.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Yeah, man paper and history.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
And you're going to have some more number ones by
then too.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
So let's get it.
The Dream is going to fuckingbe mad.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
He's going to be mad.
Shout out to Dream man.
Shout out to guys man.
Shout out to everybody else.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
I really think Honcho going to be one of the biggest
artists in 2026.
I yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, hell.
Yeah, I'm with that.
I like that white boy All right, let's go.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Last one right here the big major one.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Just wrap it up, Jay-Z.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Birdman, dr Dre, diddy, jermaine Dupri oh damn,
One got to go.
You switched it.
One got to go.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
Mmm, you snapped.
He snapped on you.
Yeah, I don't know.
He just snapped on you.
I don't know what you're goingto say.
I think all those guys arereally great.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
All those guys are great, right?
Speaker 1 (40:29):
I can't do nothing with it Damn.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
If it was up to me, I would go probably with the I be
thinking like damn, can I livewithout the West Coast music
like Dr Dre and them?
I can't.
Sometimes I be thinking I can.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
You saw that boy, kendrick, go crazy.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
I know right, he going crazy, Drake going nuts
too.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
I love Kendrick.
Shout out to Mustard man.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
I love Mustard, mustard going wild.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
That music was really good, though, Really really
good.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
You can't drop For.
You can't drop it.
Yo, it's not one person on thatlist you can get rid of for
real.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
It's just hard West Coast.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Especially Jermaine Dupri.
Yeah, it's hard, jermaine'shard.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Yeah, I can tell you, it's hard, it's hard.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
Listen, it's the Real or the Most podcast man.
I'm Real, I'm.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
WhiteboyD2A.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
Make sure you share, man.
We got Sean Garrett in thebuilding.
Man, that's our ski, we talkingour shit, we popping it.
Man, this is real as it gets.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Man, this is where you're going to come from
Telling y'all niggas, man, y'allget y'all 20 together, anybody
in versus nigga, and make surethey top 100.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
20 piece, exactly.
I swear to God, bro, that's therealest shit.
Get you a 20 piece and comefuck with a nigga.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Y'all heard it here first on Realer Than Moose.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
Get y'all a 20 piece and come fuck with a nigga.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Get y'all 20 pieces together, nigga.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
I don't care who it is.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
And we out, we out.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
All the new ones too.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
The new boys be talking crazy.
Get you a nice 20, get they 20clipped together.
They gotta be billboard, theygotta be hot 100 number ones,
that's been at least.
At least At least six weeks.
Number one At least.
At least Y'all heard it here.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
First.
It's the realest and mostpodcast.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
Sean Garrett in the building and he ain't just
talking, he popping it Big shit,we talking, big dollars, big
shit, big hits, let's get it 20piece chicken nugget.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
Get that shit together.
Real of the Moose podcast.
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