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Speaker 2 (00:19):
Really the Moose Podcast.
You already know this is theRilla the Moose Podcast.
I'm your host, rilla.
I'm white boy D2A and today myboy Cash not here.

(00:42):
We gonna hold it down.
We got our brother in thebuilding and today my boy Cash
not here.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
You know what I'm saying.
We're going to hold it down.
We're going to hold it down.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
We got our brother in the building to come in and lay
the legislation down.
Man, you lay the legislationdown Dick.
No he ain't about me though wegot our brother in the building
man.
Very, very special guest.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Oh, man, man, man, man man.
We got a very, very specialguest in the building today and
I'm a little excited becauselike.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
I'm a fan yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
I've been watching his career for a while, so to
like be able to sit down withhim and I may have a
conversation is dope.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
We talking about one of the creators of drill.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
Old Block original.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Yes, sir, you know what I mean.
Come on, man, we got Prince Drein the house, prince Dre in the
fucking building with Rilla DaMoose, let's give him a round of
applause.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
You better know it.
You better know it.
Let's give him a round ofapplause for that.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
See, people wonder why we do the things we do man
Like you all right.
He had to step back down in theshoe that Balenciaga sweatsuit,
Balenciaga shoes See fashioncome with a price.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Oh man, I mean you know Big Toby heard it sometime,
you know it's still really themost.
That's where I was getting at.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
I was getting.
This is the really the mostpodcast.
Make sure y'all share, like,subscribe, comment.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
If you don't, he's a hater, he's a hater, y'all
already know.
Because it's free.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
It's free man.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
We got OG Meech on the boards.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
And it's going to be one of them shows.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
So we normally do the mental health thing.
We go around, we ask everybodydon't start off with my boy
Manny.
He been he been on tour lately.
Yeah, I'm not going to saylately.
He actually checked me beforein the DM.
He's been outside effects.
That's very, then, outsideevery day.
Like I said, I find it verydisrespectful if you don't see

(02:42):
Manny outside, I mean you ain'tout here.
Yeah, you know what?

Speaker 3 (02:45):
I mean Mm-hmm, you probably just ain't where we at
man, you know.
Yeah, I'm diddy lot Like.
I feel good man.
We in a real transitional spacefor like all the brands right
now.
Yeah, you feel me Justpersonally.

(03:07):
You know, I'm just at a pointwhere it's like, if it ain't um,
what ransom say.
He said if you don't bump intothe double three times a day,
then you walking with him.
You know what I'm saying.
So you know.
I'm just taking everything howit comes, you feel me okay that
battle tested.
I'm just ready to knock this outone thing at a time yeah, I'm
feeling that I like that too.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
How about you?
I ain't gonna laugh, I feelfeel great, that's good, I'm
back.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
I just took my Shahada.
I'm Diddy.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
Lai.
I'm Diddy Lai, I'm Diddy Lai.
I feel great.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
I'm sure you know what I mean.
Your energy definitely we beenmoving around closer in the last
couple days and all you knowwhat I'm saying.
Energy been amazing.
You know what I'm saying.
So I feel like bro Burtonbarking on something new, like
turn that new leaf, that newchapter.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
We got this book we going to get it in there and all
that.
You know what I'm saying, robMarkman Jr.
Sure, it starts there, thoughit starts with the energy, for
sure.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Rob Markman Jr.
Speaking of that, might as wellput this on the table.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Rob Markman Jr White.
How you feel White.
How you feel White.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Tell us how you feel.
Like you said, we're going intoa transitional period with all
the brands.
So new year, new deals, newmoney.
Yeah, I'm just on a new path,bro.
Yeah, and flourishing in all myverticals.
So, yeah, we moving on highfrequencies in here.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Yes, yeah, corey.
What's up with you, corey?

Speaker 2 (04:27):
how?
The mental man.
You know my mental right nowI'm on 20, 25, I'm moving
forward.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
I'm on like no bs, I'm nottaking no shortcuts like what
you said on the gram today.
I actually needed to hear thatbecause I'm like all right, bet.

(04:48):
So I'm not on the wrong path,how I'm thinking.
Everything I see I'm going todo, whether it's a workout, a
diet, I'm doing it this year,like you know, I always push
things to the side, but becauseI put other things first.
But you know, I got it.
It's self care this year.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
So that's what I'm on this year and that's what I'm
on today.
That's what I'm on.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
We got to get those versions of ourselves like a
fair chance, you know what I'msaying.
Where we want to be at in life.
We got to really get it fair,Cause a lot of times we go into
stuff we want to, we want forthem one foot out with a lot
what we've been doing versuswhat we say we want to do.
So in order to give ourselves afair chance to be that new

(05:32):
version.
We gotta, we gotta, go two feetin with it.
You know what I'm saying yeahtest the waters let's see what
it is what it ain't you feel me.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
yeah, yeah, you know, that's what our um, that's what
our community don't do.
We don't take the risk, wedon't put both feet in.
We always want to straddle thefence.
That's because they make usscared.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
We learn young to scam or do it halfway Shortcut.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah, no more of that no, all work.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
Let's go, yes, let's go.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Shortcuts white boy.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
Let's go.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
You hear me, so how we?

Speaker 1 (06:06):
starting this off, white boy Yo.
So normally, like I ain't gonnalie, like we on season three,
Mm, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Big three bro, it's really the most.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
We got a new look.
It's 2025.
Our first episode is Prince Dre.
Yeah, and.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
I ain't gonna hold you like we know where he from
you know I'm saying old blockpark gardens.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
We know what's up so we ain't got to ask him where
you from and all that.
No for sure we're gonna getlike right into the story.
So, like me, like watching youand seeing you bit and how you
like, how you came on and camein the game, right, it was
aggressive, like right in yourface, yeah, and and you letting

(06:55):
people, and you was letting themknow like I could rap too, like
you know what I'm saying.
So, with you having those, withthe, with you having those
traits coming into the game, Iwant to ask you, like what was
like a few of your influencesgrowing up, like coming up in
your neighborhood and coming upunder a few people, that's,

(07:20):
known figures in theneighborhood?
Like tell me what was a few ofyour influences coming up?

Speaker 3 (07:28):
Show my family Right, pac-man, pac-man yeah, yeah he
was a rapper, but he was agangster.
Yes, he was like a realindividual, like so the swim.
You know, he was just.
I'm like damn Right, damn Shit,keith.

(07:52):
Once Keith took off, thatmotivated me Like oh, yeah, Okay
, we doing this, yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
So with, like, your family in house mom, grandmom,
you know, you getting a lovefrom them and having influences
from them.
And then you seeing Pac-Man andthen, as we know, like he
wanted to originators at a drillshit.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
But by him being a real person outside of the music
.
You knew him on that level.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
I seen him on that level.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
I seen him on that level, yeah, yeah yeah.
So coming into the music shit,keith, being like that breakout
person that like really put thatshit on a map, whereas though
the world get to know and see aglimpse of chicago and y'all

(08:49):
space that y'all was in, yeah,for sure, tell me where come,
where you come in at with themotivation and you coming in the
game and start picking up thepen to start rapping things like
that I started rapping my bestfriend.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
He got killed in 2010 .
He was like 12, 11, I was 12,he was 11.
I mean he was 13, 13, that waswhat he was doing.
He was rapping, right, I ain'tgonna, I want to be a boxer,
okay, rapping one year.
My little brother he was hisass, his ass can rap every song.

(09:25):
So, knowing my little brother,I'm like I'm gonna do that shit,
I can do that shit too, yeah,so once he died I'm like I'm
doing that shit.
Okay, he did it at that timelike who was popping when I
started yeah, we was listeningto like gucci in chicago no,

(09:53):
keith was.
Keith was coming, just coming.
Yeah, uh, you had niggas likelep bogus boys.
You know pac-man he brought it.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
I love them, niggas bro yeah, I leave people boys go
where bro I?

Speaker 3 (10:09):
love them.
You know, pac-man was with anypeople, right bro?
No niggas was hard.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
He was fired.
He was hard bro and like seethey was was a little bit ahead
of their time.
So they style of music and howthey was rapping and what they
was talking, the game wasn'treally on that.
They really was realindividuals, bro.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
They was going through real shit.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
They was really them niggas.
I liked them a lot and they gotI don't even really want to say
overlooked.
I just think that's like whenlike and like when reality meets
imitation, I guess, and it'slike it just was hard for them
to go over that hump because ofhow real they was, because you
know how the game is, it'sfickle.
So so watching them and andhaving like them come on and

(11:03):
then you smashing a game byKeith being one of the only ones
to really actually come out andblow with y'all genre and y'all
style of music, right, yeah,louie too.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
Louie, louie, louie.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
When LA Capone come in.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
LA comeie.
When did LA Capone come in?
La come in.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
A little later.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
We come in close, but I was rapping right before him,
he was rapping too, but he camelike a little after.
But we saw right there though.
Yeah, yeah, for sure, but youknow me and LA, we was right
there.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah, but you know me and LA.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
we was close to Ronald, number nine man they was
they from the same block, okay,but I knew LA from my partner.
They were like best friends andit was like my best friend too,
so I'm a him through them, sowhat's the block radius between
y'all and who?

Speaker 2 (12:09):
that and their neighborhood?
Say son, yeah, they're like uhdid y'all all go to the same
schools and stuff?

Speaker 3 (12:17):
no, no, we didn't go to school with them, we went to.
I went to school with like 63rdokay like drove city, jose,
that's what Pac-Man and KingLouie from.
That's the start of drill rightthere.
That's what drill from?
Okay, they was really.
It's a drill like yeah, whenKeith was doing a drill, well,

(12:38):
when Keith was doing music, theyput the drill on him hey that's
.
That's how he got created, likethe king of the drill yeah,
really that's pac-man louis woookay, that's the essence.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
Yeah, oh, yeah and you know, like I don't think
nobody never really like spokeof it in that light.
No that because man so muchgoing on got politics going on.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
I don't think niggas be want to be like man.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
that's who started, because they feel like they got
shit going on Me is really themost Fuck all that shit, they
started this.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
They're really the most man.
We just keeping it all the way.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
So so we're like with them putting on and then, and
then keith getting uh, um theking drill name, you say, all
right, I'm gonna come on, I'm,I'm gonna start doing this too,
yeah, like when you, um, whenyou entered this, did you think
like oh no, let me ask this.

(13:43):
Think like, or no, let me askthis.
When you came in right, did youthink this would be an outlet
for you and all your friends,and even the people that's
around you, to be like take careof your families and ain't?

Speaker 3 (13:57):
gonna laugh when I start.
I'm like this was gonna take usout.
Yeah especially seeing Keithreally made me like I shit
possible.
Then, once I started likemoving around, like going to
look places like Iowa, shit likethat, I'm seeing how they like
gravitate into, like I'm like,damn, I am taking issues, this

(14:21):
is gonna get me out of.
Yeah, so you know, we come outthe uh, the ghettos bro, I am
taking this shit serious.
This shit finna get me out ofhere.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
Yeah, so you know, we come out the ghettos, bro, and
we don't really be having a lotof navigation or like ways to
even like come out and then likewhen we have something like
music and hip-hop that we loveand you actually get to take
care of your family off of it,it's like some of the dopest

(14:47):
shit, because you actually likepulling from you and giving to
the world, they gravitate to itand you get to sell out shows
and sell music to take care ofyour family all off of thoughts.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
You know what's crazy ?
I ain't never had that feeling.
Yet I ain't never made moneyfrom music until now.
I ain't never made a dollarfrom music until like now.
Now, like for real, I ain'tnever made shit from music at

(15:22):
all the 13 years I've beenrapping.
That's because I was justeducated to this shit.
It's a lot of people that's yeahthat's why I feel so, so, so
important to talk.
I always say that, you know,that's why I feel like the team
come in and we got to understandthe business side of things,

(15:46):
because we going to music thatjoint generate from the friend
group in the hood.
So it's like we doing thistogether but Rob Markman, you on
it.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
That's where I was about to go, lil.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
Jon, your man, he come from where you come from.
He might not necessarily havethe, the, the, the, the know-how
of the business side sometimesit's really all what they're
saying but the shit on what'sgoing on with us y'all, really,
you don't got niggas to be likeman, I'm about to learn how to

(16:18):
do this.
I gotta learn how to do this.
These niggas want to be infront of you, you and take this
and want that same shit that ifyou learn how to do this, make a
beat, or learn how to record,go get the music business book
or how to market management,then we can go farther, but it

(16:41):
wasn't in the store.
You're same Lifestyle with eachother, but everybody just see
the light and the story gonna beway bigger.
But you got niggas.
Gotta Like I had to learn thisshit on my own.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
Damn.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
Man, any young artist listening, man Pay attention.
Get you a team and sometimesthat team Is gonna come outside
of your friend group.
You know what I'm saying.
I remember I was on the phonewith my man.
He was booked and we justrapping.
I was like listen bro, there's8 billion people in the world.
We can't keep limitingourselves to the people that's
in the 6, 8 block radius of ourneighborhood, that's no

(17:17):
resources.
And then the thing is I said thereality is we all come from the
same stuff.
So if we had the resources andthe know-hows we wouldn't be in
this situation.
We got to go outside of ourcommunity most times.
You know, I'm saying buildthose relationships there.
You know, I'm saying yeah,especially on the business side
yeah, you really want some realmoney you gotta sit down with

(17:40):
them white folk yeah I'm sayingyou can't be scared to sit, go
in the rooms and say, yeah, Iwant, I want 10ms for this.
Yeah, I'm saying you can't bescared to sit, go in the rooms
and say, yeah, I want, I want10m.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
So this yeah, I'm saying but everybody that's in
in the hoods.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
They stuck in the environment trap so they don't
even know how to go figure itout.
They just used to the.
You know how the government.
Just give it to you.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Give it to you they want the free, free, free.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
So there's people that are not even trying to
figure this out.
To go help because they don'teven know how to do that.
They sell you blew.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
My mind was saying you ain't made no money, that me
up.
But listen here listen herethat's some real.
So because it's crazy, because,like I would, I you've been
popping for so long, I'm, I'm,it's so out.
There's so many ways in theoutlets I can see you killing
them, you know what I mean.
And there's so much left on thetable because you just not

(18:32):
knowing it.
So what you getting popping,though, right, you saying all
them rap, you start rapping.
You getting popping, you ain'twe?
So it wasn't like damn Philly,I could book a show here.

(18:54):
You went, like people ain'ttelling you like you, if they
see you over here.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
See, at the time when we came, it was like dead piff
okay live mistakes.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
Yeah, yeah, my, my, my mistakes.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
So we ain't no about screaming and like that, and it
was new yeah, you can see theanalytics, yeah we thinking just
the views going up withsomething.
Yeah, I ain't learned aboutGetting paid for music Until
like 2015, 16 or some shit.

(19:30):
Still ain't even know About BMIand all that shit Until later
yeah, registering yeah.
Royalty publishing, all thatshit, way different checks.
Yeah, I'm just now figuringthat shit out.
Nah, that shit that shit fixednow.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
They ain't never too late yeah, I got that shit fixed
now.
Yeah, never too late.
That's it right?
Yeah, so that's just going totell you that, like, as young
black and coming from where wecome from, that like ain't
nobody gonna give us nothing wegotta go.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
We gotta go and get that shit figure it out, educate
ourself.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
You know, I'm saying because like we could be a young
star coming out the ghetto andlike having the potential to do
everything in the world to takecare of your family and and just
like that, won't nothing comefrom it because we don't have
the education.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
You can't do what you don't know.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
And knowledge breeds confidence.
So a lot of times we be likescared to do certain stuff
Because we don't got theknowledge.
We just got to understand,because it's something that we
ain't figured out yet.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
You know what I'm saying, right?
Because once you know something, it will scare you if you don't
.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

(20:56):
yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So you got the lawyerseverything.
Yeah, man, the whole nine, thepackage.
You got the package, that's howyou gotta come, move forward,
move forward.
Yeah, no more mistakes, man Forsure.
But yeah, surviving O Block,this boy, a survivor of O Block,
yeah, I had somebody come up tome before and ask me, like

(21:23):
listen, coming from theneighborhood, you, from how you
Like how you make it out yourneighborhood the way you you are
, and I'm like what you mean.
I ain't even get the question,like what?

Speaker 1 (21:34):
are you saying?

Speaker 2 (21:35):
And he, like, because he was um, he was uh, what's
them boys that work in funeralhomes that cut the bodies open?
Mortician ain't like not openup bodies.
People your age, all the time,right from your neighborhood,
like so how you?
I'm like what it's real though.

(21:57):
So the answer I gave him waspretty much separation, like you
got to know your path out here.
You know what I'm saying.
So surviving O-Block.
What's your definition ofsurviving O-Block?
Like, how would you break thatdown?

Speaker 3 (22:17):
For real, for real, growing.
For real, for real, breakingout the environment trap.
I was stuck.
I was done with littering.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
I was fucked up.
I was fucked up Doing drugs.
It's crazy.
I was fucked up, I ain't gonnalie.
I was fucked up doing drugs.
I'm fucking crazy man.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
It's crazy because it's like I hear you say that
shit.
That be the first John yougotta tell yourself yo, I'm this
, I'm that, I'm that.
To get up out of that shit, wetalked to Ike Muna.
He was on the same tip, like no, I'm from there, but I can't be
stuck there I want more else.
I want more for myself, I wantmore for my family.

(22:57):
I want to do more this is crazy.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
More like he, 10 years younger than me, and he
like yo, we smart for real, forreal what he, like the whole
world, look up to us there'sthat but we really for sure.
See, I ain't go to school withthem.
Yeah, I went to school in themiddle of Woodlawn.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
No, you was the one they was.
His mom was saying he couldn'tcome outside and hang with.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
He was saying he looked up to you Like no, Dre
was one of the first ones.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
See, the school, they boomright.
The school, they boom right.
O'block and Woodline, joe Cityand Woodline FBG number and
Woodline it's T-Y-M-B.
That's still Joe City.
It's a lot.
It's like a box.
Next to O'Block they got aschool called Dulles, but right

(23:50):
here in the middle is Emmett.
Till Emmett.
Till went there too.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Emmett.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
Till from the hood.
Wow, how about he stayed on63rd?

Speaker 2 (23:56):
and st lawrence?

Speaker 3 (23:57):
yeah, that's crazy yeah but I went to mt this this
was the started it right, likewe were losing school, tripping
on.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
Come on man well, school tripping on, come on man
well, he was in school.
Children from like alabamasippy, but he went to go visit
his cousin yeah, he went to govisit them.
They sent them.
He went to go visit his cousin.
You know how you go down south.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
I mean in the summertime or you need a city
but chicago history's so richman.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
For sure.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
Yeah, obama, but that school, though, I feel like
they had more opportunity thanthe school I went to.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
Like they shit was.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
No, the school I came to went to oh, Douglas.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
Like our school was fucked up.
We was in that bitch on thenews a lot Dang Y'all had to
take tools from school.
That a lot both.
I had to take two because thiswas like jail that is set up
like jail we end up.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
I've been like jail bro, it's hella hoods in this.

Speaker 3 (24:59):
Take his, he had to be safe and that back then well
we had to bring guns in sixthgrade, fifth grade, because it's
grown, trying to kill us right,yeah, coming up to the school
like did you like did that allthat start?

Speaker 1 (25:17):
like, how early in your life did you have to like
start protecting yourself,holding guns and like that?

Speaker 2 (25:24):
see, see me uh, you got him thinking about his first
one.
I ain't gonna lie I lie.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
I've been around that shit my whole life.
My mom and dad, you know theysome gangsters, Okay.
So, I've been around that shitmy whole life.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Chicago's so different man.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
I can go into my mom's bed and go grab a chopper.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
Yeah, you born there Not sworn there.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
Okay, this shit born there.
I'm holding him, but that's howI'm so.
Different, though, because Iwas taught by them.
But my first time was like forreal.
For real, because I ain't I dotoo much, but seventh grade,
that's when I lost my bestfriend.
I was still fucking with niggasfrom 63rd, and I mean I live in

(26:10):
in a week o block, but it was afriend.
I was still fucking with niggasfrom 63rd, and I live in the
weak O block, but it was weak,right.
I was still fucking with peoplefrom TYMB Niggas still niggas
that call me from all thesehoods, check up on me, but four
of them can't fuck with them.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
But they don't trust that.
But everybody still respect me,Right?
But it was just because my bestfriend though, for real, Right,
right.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Damn.
So look, when you uh, youstarted basically coming up and
blowing up, Like how, how didthe um, how did your
neighborhood react to youblowing up off the music?

Speaker 3 (26:47):
I ain't gonna even do this.
It it seem like when you inthat light, your hood adapt to
you more Right, they was, theywas, because it's like they like
got hope.
They be yeah, yup, because, yup, keith came, keith left, but I

(27:09):
ain't gonna put that on folksleave like just left, but he had
to leave at any point you feellike it was pressure on you to
step up and make I mean makeyour way up yeah, that's angle.
That's why I left.
I left earlier.
I was leaving a block early,like I gotta go.
So well, if I don't go, I'm bedead in jail.

(27:32):
I've been figured that out.
That's crazy one leaderhood andyou gotta leave the block first
.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
Separation how do we get to the point that they forge
yeah, your signature on acontract?
How do we get to that, like,how do we get to that point?

Speaker 3 (27:52):
This shit at Von died .

Speaker 1 (27:54):
It's after Von died yeah, all right.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
So my boy, speed Gonzalez, I was going to go, and
see it, though, I let him rock.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
I ain't going to lie.
It's on my brain, bro.
It's cool.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
We in the first thing , we on 95.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
I'm rocking with it yo, it's right here bro.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
It's right here, it's on the front of my I really
want to.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
It's like All right, we ain't going to speed.
Go ahead, my boy, we speed, wegot it here, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
We done, man, we done , we done, we done Bro.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
Because how do we get there, how do we, how we All
right.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
Man, I signed some shit, right.
Mm-hmm.
Fuck all that.
I'm with my mans.
Every day my mans say we ain'tsigning this shit.
We finna take this bitch overMe and you, we gon' Come on.
Come on, I got you my back.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
You talking about Vaughn?

Speaker 3 (28:47):
right, I'm talking about Vaughn yeah, all right, so
we gon' do do the Get Back game.
Sign of shit for Get Back game.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
So what drew the first artists on Get Back game?

Speaker 3 (28:57):
It was like me, like a couple other guys.
Okay, but me though me, though,so I did that.
We working, we working thisshit.
Folks die like five days latersorry to hear that somehow I get

(29:22):
a van.
I'm like man, what the so yougot an event.
I'm up anywhere, I go becausewe we dealing with this, you
know, yeah, and then thatAnywhere go cuz we dealing with
this, you know, yeah.
Vance a yeah, yeah, I get moneyin my hand like them.
Is this from back again?
You know they got a van.

(29:42):
I don't even know what the fuckthat was, Just drop back.
Yeah, it just came.
So I'm like Alright, SomehowI'm reading my shit.
They been say Such and suchmusic group.
Damn how the fuck they droppingmy shit.

(30:03):
I'm like Hold on, I gotta slideto you.
I gotta understand this shit,cause I don't remember signing
no shit with these people.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
Right.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
So they getting that?
They never showed me that, theyjust showed me the that I
signed with folks would get backin yeah right.
So I dropped.
We dropped a pro, they droppeda project.
I turned into them.
So I'm like where the is thismoney and this shit don't make
sense.
Then they telling me, like Irecouped, I'm like, damn, if I

(30:35):
recoup, what the fuck is thismoney?
Wait, that shit was tweaking meout.
So I'm telling them I ain'tdropping no more Until I get to
understand this shit.
So I started getting lawyersand shit.
I'm like I don't understand it.
I ain't even finna be playingwith this shit.
So that's how I stoppeddropping in four years.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
So what?
You went and get.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
Listen, right, I had got a lawyer.
He nah, I can't go, I can't dothis, left me, he left you.
The lawyer.
Why he getting that Somethinglike that?
That's what he told you.
He like he can't, he can't takecare of this yeah, so he left.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
I don't die, so it was like it too like it was like
what the?
Funny thing they got going on.
So I'm like man what the goingon?

Speaker 1 (31:22):
I don't understand this I need somebody, I need
somebody else, yeah so I ain'tgonna.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
I want to go get all the books.
All you need to know about themusic business uh well, donald,
yeah, so I ain't gonna.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
I was gonna get all the books.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
By.
Well, I've been grabbing allthat shit money to understand
something.
What's going on.
So I'm gonna go grab anotherlawyer.
Those beat that.
He, he, he.
Get them to drop my YouTubeCause he had control of my
YouTube that I wasn't supposedto drop, that I wasn't even
supposed to drop that.
But I'm like man, I ain't tryingto let my shit die down, but
I'm like damn.
So I don't want them to get themoney from this shit either.

(32:05):
So, uh, folks, get this, he getmy YouTube back.
He get them to back.
He get them to get.
He get the answers how muchmoney was made and recouped back
.
They send that shit and I justI just got that shit like Three

(32:25):
weeks ago, so it was some moremoney, it was money in that
bitch, bro, it was money in theair.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
What's your name?

Speaker 3 (32:31):
you think not All these millions of views all
around I knew it was money I'm,I'm actually gonna fuck my money
at my shit doing numbers, myshit saying that's why white boy
over here grabbing his headlike what bro, money like it's
because it's like that's my geta lawyer get some intellectual
property and get your money, man, because it's streaming

(32:54):
services, it's publishing.
It's royalties, it's the DSP.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
All the DSPs.
All the DSPs it's your wholelikeness, so anything that got
to do with your name is money inthe air.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
Go get that.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
You've been popping for 13 years 13 years, she's
just adding up.
What the fuck is you talkingabout?
Go get that You've been poppingfor 13 years.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Fuckin you crazy there's money on it.
It got to be.
Yeah, that's why you over heretalking about that's learning,
learning, learning, businessguys you've got to know the
business he's so hyped to askwhen you sign, because everybody
be so caught up on.
Man, I'm trying to get the youknow I'm trying to get the money
I'm trying to.
I used to.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
It's pretty like I think like 13 projects you
probably put together like broready for to get all type of.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
That's not even cool, that song trust sound of shame
yeah I'm talking about splitsheets from features from
features.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
He got, he got, he got, he got, he got, he got, he
got, he got record he gotrecords with vaughn you know
what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 (34:03):
not not including sweat equity.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
Hold on hold on platinum record, though let's
talk, let's talk.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
Yo stop playing, bro again, stop playing around
before.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
So, bro, again, again , again.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
Everything's situated bro, that's a super round of
applause because it's superimportant.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
A lot of people don't , don't, don't, don't, come back
from that.
You know I'm saying yeah, themtype situations it's not easy
bro, it'd be hard all right solike all, right.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
This is really the most like and this is what be
happening.
Like people see a gentlemanlike dry hair and they'll just
put a image on him and no, he'sa great person, he move around,
take care of his family and hedeserved to get paid because

(34:52):
he's talented and he put hiswork in the air and into the
system.
Now it is his, it is is on himto do the business, to get the
business done, so that's wherehe had to fall in that.
But for him to be like who heis, and and and not, and not get
paid or or nobody push himtowards getting paid or getting

(35:14):
the money that's owed to him.
They nuts, yeah that's crazy I'msaying so it gotta be that now.
I mean because, ultimately, broyou, you influence a bunch of
people, bro for sure.
More, more than you even know Idon't know thinking of, don't
know so so, like we have toencourage them and have them

(35:37):
understand that, like, even ifthis is the path that you want,
or any path, and I'm saying hada business right, right, learn
that yeah learn that.
Learn it yourself, whatever,pick up the book yourself, it
don't matter what it is pick thebook up yourself, open it, read
it line for line, no shortcutsthat's what, no shortcuts.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
Come on skate.
You ain't gonna make it outhere with these shortcuts you
gotta give it a fair chance,give yourself a shot.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
You feel me, and a fair chance of just having the
knowledge.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
You know I'm saying that's the biggest thing with
our community is that, like it'sa lot of, it's an information
barrier.
You know because it's out thereyeah, I think, like, like,
really put into perspective.
They print money every day,it's everywhere, it's just
information on how to obtain ityeah, you know I'm saying
different ways.
You got people that you know yougot people that do what I do,

(36:32):
like we was talking earlier,like the stuff you know, giving
out the food and all that whenyou be, you know, down houston
it's companies that hunt.
I got a hundred thousand foryou to do that yeah, yeah, like,
oh yeah so it's really just aninformation thing, man.
I hope the biggest thing thatpeople take away from this drama
what bro story is like educateyourself so you don't gotta go

(36:55):
through that.
It's a blessing that he wasable to get it back yeah, I'm
saying because some people don't, don't for sure some people
don't and and that's, and that'swhat it'd be like.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
Yo like, this is what we got to get out.
You don't want to, you don'twant to short yourself, yeah.
Yeah, I mean, go and get allyours.
I seen a lot of people notrecover from that?

Speaker 2 (37:18):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
Speaking of that, though, man, you got your book
out now, man.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
Yeah, let's talk about it.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Yeah, get this Jones, listen.
We got the paperback for 2599on Amazon.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
Go get that hardcover for 3999.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
Go ahead, get that.
I'm saying so go order the bookright now.
Surviving old block.
The streets do not love you.
Well, I'm gonna say streetsdon't love you, my fault.
Don't don't love you.
Go get the book, man.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
It's on amazon I like um what sparked the idea
writing a book I wanted to dosome.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
Nobody.
I've seen dude, and in my neckof the woods right, I ain't
never seen none of the guys thatI looked up to uh, none of the
guys I'm around write a book soI'm like it was smart if you ask
me do that.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
Yeah, yeah author.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
You know what I'm saying.
That's what like say.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
Author and then look ultimately, ultimately, right,
this is what we do.
Right, this is what we do you.
You challenge yourself toflourish in different verticals.
Now, now, now, ben Arthur, andwriting right, what you already

(38:40):
basically do with what we'rewrapping and tell us stories and
your reps is, is, is, is, allin the same form.
It's just like using your toolin another way.
Now now, in the lane forwriting books and having and,
and, being a bestseller and anamazon top seller and things
like that, I'll put you indifferent ramifications.

(39:00):
It's smart for real.
For real, it's really thinkingoutside the box, because now
it's like you, one of the onesthat made it out with the
redemption story, and you still,hair shining, looking good,
taking care of your family.
So it ain't all bad.
It ain't all bad to be from oldblock living good, you look good
, got your family, it ain't allbad here, the old block story

(39:23):
and think you die, go to jail orsomething?
Yeah, I mean, no, it ain't that.
That's what I'm saying, and weand we gotta give the people a
different look of, like whatreality is with that.
Like I'm saying because youknow how they look at it and it
ain't always that most of thetime it is that, though it ain't

(39:45):
that out.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
It is that, yeah, but you got, but you got.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
You got people like them that can write books and
things like that.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
It is that too, yeah, yeah yeah, like I'm saying and
they gotta see that yeah, I gotsome aj.
Pick a number two or four, twoto four, two or four, which one
four, four.
So I want you to give us likechapter four in the in the book
I like no love here yeah right?
So I want you to give us asynopsis, a summary of what that

(40:16):
chapter is and what inspiredyou to write about no love.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
No love here and never get your heart to the
streets.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
You know what I'm saying Give us that, take us
into the book, what that chapteris for you, for the people who
may not have purchased it yetand they thinking about getting
a book, let me pick.
No, no, love never never, giveyour heart to the streets.
Yeah, I basically, I basicallywas telling them like I put my

(40:47):
life in for this shit, to beheartbroken mentally up I don't
know, like up all the way aroundthe board but, once I figured
out like I ain't putting my myall into that, because once I'm

(41:09):
dead, who fuck gonna take careof my kids and family?
Dang.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
Especially.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
With how the streets go, cause it ain't no squash and
beef.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
Even if I'm in jail, nobody gonna still be there.
So, like me, I used to be like,I used to be super drug dealer.
Yeah, I mean, bro, I'm goingout like this trapping phones,
phone, phone I got, I hit like,I hit, like I hit like 32 right,
I'm out of town selling drugs.

(41:44):
I'm like damn, I'm already, I'malready weeks away from the
family.
I'm already taking a super riskgetting on a roll with this
shit.
And I'm like, and these crazyass, hick, ass counties where's
if I get caught, they're gonnaroof the shit out me.

(42:04):
And I'm like, I'm like, damnlike, and I love music, I love
music, I love music.
Like I can't pass my son thephone.
It got to be another way.
I start thinking different.
Like damn, like I got it gotlike what would be my exit,

(42:26):
because I always had in my headlike no, I'm going to sell drugs
the whole way through, I ain'tgoing to lie Like 32,.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
I start thinking like different, like no, bro, this
can't be the only way I gottagotta be a joint 32, and you
know it's crazy, that's late ashell yeah, you know it's crazy,
I was.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
I was selling just hot even, and I'm talking about
on the road back for choppingout that child.
Yeah, my man Vaughn and mygrandma stopped me.
That's how, back Again, evencame about you getting that.

(43:02):
Come on, man, get back to it.
Let's do this, let's take overthat's how.
Back Again, even came around.
My grandma said I had a dreamabout you.
You got to stop.
Yeah, it's all together that'show, back again, you came around
.
My grandma said I had a dreamabout you.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
Gotta stop.
Let's check the six.
Always be you.
I always be you.
Stay real to self because, andyou know, we stand on that
relative motion in the innerworld out here.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
Nobody not to be they .
So everybody follows.
Nobody know how to be they self.
Everybody follows.
Nobody know how to be like man,I'm going to fuck it.
If you want to be the police,I'm going to go accomplish to be
a police.
I ain't going to be like y'allbro.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
Yeah.
I'm going to do different.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
Whatever, I'm going to stick to me.
I ain't trying to follow you,hey.
I ain't trying to follow you,yeah.
That's what that mean, like Ialways say, like you know,
legends are built around rulesand rules are built around
legends.

(44:08):
It's like you want to doanything different rules are
built around legends.
It's like you want to doanything different.
You got to go outside the box.
You got to go outside of thenorm of what everybody else is
doing.
You can't do what everybodyelse is doing and think you're
going to be different.
Right, it just don't make sense.
And then you know, once youbecome legendary, they're going
to build rules around yourfootsteps.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
You know what?

Speaker 3 (44:28):
I'm saying to keep the people in order.
You know what I'm saying.
They're gonna build that aroundthe path that you set.
You know what I'm saying.
So, right, you know, that's abig part of being yourself,
because we all, we, we all growup and be having certain
aspirations.
Like niggas ain't grow up andbe like man.
I just, I just want to draw,you know what I'm saying niggas,
we was kids, you knoweverybody's forced to do that

(44:50):
yeah, you me.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
But along the line.

Speaker 3 (44:52):
We be losing that foresight you know what I'm
saying Because life be hittingus and that's like the challenge
you feel me Like to always comeback to that foresight and stay
on that goal, Because there'sso much that'll take you off.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
Do what's allowed with you.

Speaker 3 (45:07):
You know what I'm saying, like I posted it during
the other day, when we y'all wasthere, when we gave the the get
busy award and I started cryingbecause I'm really thinking
about like dang, like my man,really, I'm performing everybody
had left from her, from thecrowd, he, the only one there
yeah, at the day he shook myhand like yo, bro, like you

(45:28):
really got it, like, get us outthe hood with this.
He checked and then I'm sittingthere and I'm looking at the
reality of me staying true tomyself, staying true to the
goals.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying,to sit and say like dang, like
I'm really keeping bro namealive in a positive way, like we
yeah we giving kids money topursue their goals in life

(45:49):
through bro name and his namegiving kids money to pursue
their goals in life through bronames and his name, and so it's
like it's so, so important to beon your own path.
You know what I'm saying,because one of the hardest
things I had to realize when myman death was like dang.
Like you know, bro put tears innigga's family too.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
You know what I'm saying so.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
I can't sit here and act like they took an angel.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 (46:12):
Yeah, no doubt I know you probably have friends or
people around you That'llprobably talk you out of being
Manny 215 Before you becameManny 215.
You know what I'm saying.
Like, some people don't seeyour vision also, so being
yourself is always, I think.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
I I might have been like the first person to call
him the mayor or one of thefirst people I've seen it from
the jump.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
I see you start calling you the mayor, right
after that the whole street andI'm everybody calling the mayor
now, that should come from whiteboy.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
I seen it in him bro.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
Yo, what is that?
You hear me If I?

Speaker 3 (46:49):
could choose a mayor, it'd be him.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
I'm the mayor of the culture man.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
That's a fact.
That's a fact.
The mayor of the culture.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
How the Philly connection come about.
You connected to.

Speaker 3 (47:04):
Philly heavy man.
We have my brother from NewOrleans right.
I fucked with Philly.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
You know, you got Y'all got Benny, you got.

Speaker 3 (47:17):
You got state poverty , you got all this shit.
Niggas was young watching statepoverty I said I gotta go be
with them, niggas, when I getout.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
My daddy had me watching this shit.
I heard he says my property.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
Y'all like being on it.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
Huh beans, yeah, I was.
I was entirely.
Who was now was watching allthe battle raps?

Speaker 2 (47:42):
That's crazy, that's crazy.
Damn that's crazy, that's crazy, that's crazy, that's crazy,
that's crazy, that's crazy,that's crazy, that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (47:44):
That's crazy, that's crazy, that's crazy, that's
crazy, that's crazy, that'scrazy, that's crazy, that's
crazy, that's crazy, that'scrazy, that's crazy, that's
crazy.
Bobby Young on 4LM.
He say what hands you rollingout with Damn.

(48:07):
You got Mack man, what youdoing man, what you looking like
, man, what's up?

Speaker 2 (48:21):
baby.

Speaker 3 (48:25):
Oh, man, you know, we got bro in the city, we got, we
got.
Get y'all up with each otherman, one of these days you heard
me, yeah, I said inshallahinshallah.
We're gonna set it up though.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
I'ma call you after this.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
Interview me see you on the phone.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
That shit crazy you.
Alright, yeah, as soon as I'mdone, I'm gonna call you Alright
, I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
Nigga fucker, read dollars out of that shit.
I ain't been watching that shitI'm going to For now.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
Man, I can't call you Let me see if I can call you.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
This nigga white just set the stage.
All right, I can't call reed ifI can call reed.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
That's crazy if I can call reed, that's.
I don't think nobody in thiscity can call reed that's funny
as shit, but no like I'm,calling reed.
I'm calling reed.
You, I'm calling reed.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
Greg G no.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
G's yeah for sure, greg G's can.
Definitely it's.
I'm calling him no geez.
Yeah for sure, greg.
Definitely, definitely get ridof the phone, but it boy pick up
the phone.
That'll be crazy.
Oh, I always um, you know youknow, I read dollars, you know
philly always um man we done.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
Adapted chicago culture hold on, I got reed on
the line.
Yo, yo, I'm sitting here with.
I'm sitting with prince PrinceDre from O Block man, he wanted
to just hear you holla at youreal quick, man, I ain't want
nothing, man, nigga just sayingnigga was watching yo.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
We got Reed on the phone yo.
We got Reed Dollaz on the phoneyo.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
I'm from Philly to I'm from New Orleans.
Yeah yeah, I'm through thesebitches, I'm from them.
No bullshit, man.
We got major love for y'allniggas.
Man, we like cousins aroundthis motherfucker.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
You hear me?
Nah, for sure love.
No bullshit.
What y'all niggas on we doingwhat we want.

Speaker 3 (50:15):
We doing what we want .
We doing what we want, we doingwhat we want.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
We doing an interview , we at the podcast right now,
really the most right now, man.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
Yeah, we waiting on you Whenever you ready.
We waiting on your date.
So you know what I'm saying.
Send that through with a textmessage Whenever you ready.
Ha ha ha.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
Ha ha ha, okay, alright.
Alright say no more.
Say no more, appreciate you.
Hit me up, Brody.
It ain't easy to get Reed onthe phone.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
Or Benny Siegel.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
It ain't easy, I'm trying to tell you it ain't easy
to get them, type niggas on thephone.

Speaker 3 (51:22):
Come on, man.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
It's really the most that's a really the most flex.
You hear me?
Yeah, real shit.
Make sure you like subscribecomment.
If you don't you amotherfucking hater, why To the
sprees?
Those are just shows y'all.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
They don't niggas.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
Nah, man, they don't niggas I just always seen your
Philly connection and I alwaysliked how you like, adapted to
the city, like you ain't neverfront.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
Like real rap you wear our brands you shoot videos
.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
here you connect with the artists.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
It just be dope man, it's dope to see, then you know,
I was fucking with my doll, mydoll Navy Seal man, I fucking
with Navy Seal, navy Seal, shoutout, shout, navy Seal man, I
fucking hate Seal.
Navy Seal.
Shout out to Navy Seal.
My first time coming to PhillyI was with Vaughn.
First person I met was SS.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
He pulled up, got me to you know his clothes, got you
right.
That was the first nigga I met.

Speaker 3 (52:19):
But that was on some quick shit.
We came for a show Right when Icame here, mm hmm, me and Navy
SEAL, we was everywhere.
I say, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
My new town and you was linked with a good.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
He was linked with a good guy.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
He was linked with a good guy.
He was linked with a good guy.
He was linked with a good guy.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
He was linked with a good guy.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
He was linked with a good guy.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
He was linked with a good guy.

Speaker 3 (52:41):
He was linked with a good guy.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
you're in the right hands man, you know what I'm
saying.
Are you good man?
Yeah, I bet you know the.
You know certain, you knowcertain people, you good that's
how you.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
You got the bit with the right through the city.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
You got a bit with the right people, for sure all
right, man, on this show what wedoing, man, what you want to do
, man you want to play the gamesor no?
Yeah, we got to oh man.
You want to play the games orno?

Speaker 1 (53:04):
yeah, we got to oh man you think you're ready for
that, though?

Speaker 2 (53:14):
like what version we're going?
We're going, we're goingbecause it's 2025.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
White boy, we gotta like spice it up a little bit
you know what I'm saying?
Like all right, so we do it.
Like all right, let's do fasttrack like this.
Let's do fast track like thisthe day we got.
Prince Dre in the building.
We do fast track this game.
It ain't nothing too crazy.
We say two things and we letyou pick one or the other.
Know what I'm saying.

(53:37):
And because you from Chicago,we just got to start with some
Chicago legends.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
Yeah, let's do that.
That's cool, I like that.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
So okay.
Fast track right, yeah, fasttrack.
All right, let's do it, let'sgo Comment.
Or Kanye West, kanye, comment.
Or Kanye West, kanye, okay.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
All right, Lupe or Twister.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
Twister what.
Lupe or Common.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
Lupe or Common would have been better right Lupe or
Common.
Common look he, he gotta go, hegotta go Google and all that.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
I had this the first time I ever did this too.
You know what I'm saying, Polo.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
G or Polo G or Lord Dirt.

Speaker 3 (54:38):
Damn.
That's how I'm gonna do you.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
Yes, you already know , polo, that's my man.
That's how it goes sometimesDirt.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
that's my brother.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
That's my brother.
That's how it goes sometimes.
That's my brother.
That's my brother too, thoughsee, see, see.

Speaker 3 (54:55):
I gotta say dirt, because Polo was after folks.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
Hey, man and shout out Polo, my dog said.

Speaker 3 (55:01):
He said man, he said before he said you, I was with
you before he blew up.
He, he said I was one of theones.
I say message my, my child.
You know I love him, but damn,I gotta go with dirt oh, wait,
wait, wait, wait, wait, what youjust do.
You went back with dirt no, Isaid, that's my shot.
I don't just sleep with dirt.
You say who, loris or chiefkeith, keith, steve Ball with

(55:23):
dirt?

Speaker 1 (55:23):
You said who Low Reese or Chief Keef?

Speaker 2 (55:29):
Keef.
See, you should have Free Reese, though I'm my brother right
now.

Speaker 3 (55:33):
Free Reese but.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
Keef, all right, all right, rondo number nine Alfredo
Santana.

Speaker 3 (55:46):
Damn.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
That was crazy.
He just did that.
That's crazy.
He just did that.
That's crazy, damn man, that'scrazy.

Speaker 3 (55:57):
You can only do that with them two, though.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
Yeah, look, though I can't, that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (56:01):
I can't say like man, that's a tie, that's a tie,
that's like a tie, right there.
Yo, that might be the firsttime we let the tie Goddamn.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
Damn.
I can't really say too muchabout it.
It was a hard one.

Speaker 3 (56:18):
But you know, Rondo, that's.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
Rondo.
Then you got.

Speaker 3 (56:20):
Fredo, fredo, that's my.
Fredo's the first nigga out ofthe guys to push me For real.
Oh yeah, that's hard.
The first nigga that was.
I dropped.
He shitting that bitch Okay.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
We got to go with Fredo.

Speaker 3 (56:36):
Doody Low or Buka.
Doody Low or Buka.
Come on, dude, that's my cousinright there Come on.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
Buka that's my dog.
He Come on, that's my.
He cutting right now.
Whoa man he cutting right now,bro he cutting Damn Yo photo
grade bro.

Speaker 1 (57:04):
I gotta say Ty was doing two folks what?
I gotta say Ty was doing Von.
What I gotta say Tower Dome Von1700 or Munah Ikey.

Speaker 3 (57:10):
Munah, ikey, that's my little brother.
All right, all right.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
I'm just making sure.

Speaker 3 (57:14):
All right, all right.
They got two different soundstoo.
They do, they do.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
I should have said Shoebox, or Von 1700.
Same shit type.
Time too, though.

Speaker 3 (57:24):
I might have to go with Lil Shu Boss because he
from my end, but damn.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
I'm on that game.

Speaker 3 (57:34):
Herbo, juice World, herbo, then Juice World, he on
some.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
I know.

Speaker 3 (57:45):
Herbo on some.
I get Herbo, so I get.
Oh man, we ain't letting youget away with these ties yo.
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
You gotta pick one.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
You gotta pick one.

Speaker 3 (57:51):
You gotta pick one, herb or juice.
I'ma go with herb because juicereal was after herb.
But you know, phone them help.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
That's cool Juice real blow, so you gotta, i'ma
get herb.
That's cool juice world blow,so you gotta all right.
All right, little bibby or gherbo bibby retires, I gotta go

(58:17):
hurt.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
All right, no man.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
But but but bibby in the mix still, because without
bibby won't be no juice where itwon't be no a lot of niggas.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (58:25):
That's why you can't get rid of bibby, you can't even
get rid of him, but he's on thewrapping the business behind it
.
He, he pushing everybody rightnow.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
Yeah and I respect that.
I respect how he did the school, yeah I respect how he hit the
yeah, he knew, he knew hishomies needed that for sure, and
I respect that oh, he's got me.

Speaker 3 (58:45):
See, that's what I'm saying, that's why that's what
we need, maybe you could dropright now.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
I'm gonna go cop up I'm gonna be.

Speaker 3 (58:50):
I'm on baby time right now too.
I've been looking at a lot ofartists, and not just in chicago
y'all need to.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
Y'all gotta pull each other up with the ladder, the
same way we gotta do in philly.
No, no doubt yeah I'm always inphilly, I love it.

Speaker 3 (59:03):
Yes, you would I like .
I love dc too.
Dc yeah, but yeah, though, dc Ilike them all right, one gotta
go.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
It's like one gotta go is a little bit different, so
it's like the opposite it's theI'm gonna say four people and
one person, one gotta go.
But when we say they gotta go,the whole career goes.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
Everything, they did everything they did like never
was an artist.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
So I mean come on, man, let's get this person so,
like we're gonna start with this, one one gotta go tia gucci,
jeezy yogati.
One gotta go t iI gotta get thefuck out of there.

Speaker 3 (59:45):
I was out with the Gucci I was just out with.
Gucci, you had to swing thatdope.

Speaker 1 (59:49):
I was just out.

Speaker 3 (59:51):
I was just out, you know, gucci never going off my
list.
He ain't never going off mylist, geg, I'm Trapper Dye Gotti
Cook.
I can't man TI, I can't man.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
TIA did what he rubble baby, I love Gotti, but
I'll take to y'all over Gottiwhen it come to like rap.
Yeah when it come to rap, butwhen they come to me like
playing somebody listen, god, Igot play God.
Yeah, not see, I, you know,right now, put the words

(01:00:23):
together.
You know I put them wordstogether.
That's why I said, like on somewordsmith.

Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
With the hits and yeah them three smoking ti.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
All right, All right because the rap game that merged
over to like a club era.
Yeah, where, if you ain't hadno club bangers.

Speaker 3 (01:00:39):
Oh, that's out of there.
You was out of there.
You should have said boozy, ohman now, I would have been like
dang, I don't know.
That's the South right.
That's the next one.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
That's next time.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
But see, I ain't going to lie.
We normally kill with the.
Uh See, it's just tip, tip,it's just tipping age.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
Well, I keep telling y'all about that shit, that
music, music ain't age well, nomusic don't be aging well, but I
mean, TI still got some hitsout there.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
Oh, for sure, For sure.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
I mean shout out to TI, shout out to TI.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
I mean came up off the tip man, All right.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
Let me get one real quick.
What I'm going to?
Just put one together.
I got Dyrt Keef, hurd Polo G,one guy go.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
Without Keef, there won't Herb Polo J, One guy go.
Without Keith there won't be nome.
Yeah, without Dirk, there won'tbe no me.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
Damn, that's what we're signing up to.
Damn, it's out of the two G's.

Speaker 3 (01:01:46):
Without Herb, there Won't be no me either.
Damn Polo nigga, love you bro.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
Love you Polo.

Speaker 3 (01:01:55):
You got a ghost.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
You doing good too.
I like how you living thatmansion is beautiful.
We taking that from you thoughDamn Damn Polo.
We taking that from you, though, damn Damn.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
Let's go.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
Shout out Polo G.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
Sexy Red Glow Rella, megan Astaire and Cardi B.

Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
One gotta go See I don't listen to none of them, so
they ain't about listening tothem.
Cardi B, one gotta go See, Idon't listen to none of them, so
that was easy for me.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
They ain't about listening to them.
They got to delete their career.
You know, any career's got toslide.
That's what you want to get ridof For the loss no more.
Hey, don't look back there, fam.
Yo, I don't even know what tosay, man.
He said there fam.

Speaker 3 (01:02:45):
Yo, I don't even know what to say, man he said yo 4-0
.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
Help out.
Help out on 4-0.

Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
I don't know, if I say right or wrong.
Oh, damn man, you should havesaid a lot of glow card Cardi
Nikki or something.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
Go ahead, swap them out, Live either way, you still
going to pick one.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
You still got to pick one.

Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
Somebody got to swap, you still got to pick one who
got to go and you ain't pickingLotto to go, so it don't even
matter it don't.
Nobody picking her to go SayMulatto can't go, Maybe it
doesn't make list harder.

Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
Yeah, you put her on the list what?
She ain't going nowhere.
I'm going to send her nowhere.
Well right, not with all themdog bitches on the list.
Damn bro, this shit be toocrazy.

Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
You can tell Everybody get the hot seat on
real of them.
Don't say Everybody get it.
You can tell you Lil Red Ridahood up.
Okay, tell, say you, caneverybody get it you can take a
little red, right, okay?

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
so who the red riders ?

Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
sexy red little red right, red, right okay I respect
that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
Shout out to sexy um do the, do the drone, we do the
uh, the main job all right.
All right so, but Is that awhole?
No, is that a not?

Speaker 1 (01:04:15):
the thing we should want to do.
All right, dr Dre P Diddy.

Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
Burman, diddy bird man jay-z damn fo son just hit
me.
I'm like, oh, diddy, whateverhe going through, but he got, he
got mary.
Oh, he got big, he got big, hegot on, he got a lot of rmv 112

(01:04:47):
jack one twill jack.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
It is nothing, uh, that's so so definitely.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
That's so so definitely, jack it is yeah, you
got 112 for sure, for sure yougot fate.
Wait, he ain't got faith yeah,yeah, yeah look, count right on
these the whole uh mob countylow count them all undies, the
whole uh mob.

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
Yeah, hang on.
Well, who drink at?
So?

Speaker 3 (01:05:18):
he got french martina , he still got a great drake,
got z still got, he got he gotdid.

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
He's right.
One, one, one, one drink down,one dray down.
Great dray is starting with NWAand yeah that's new TI.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
I mean not me Eminem 50.

Speaker 3 (01:05:32):
Yeah, yeah, kendrick.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
Lamar 50 and Kendrick .

Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
Jay-Z though.
He got Benny.
That's Kanye, I fuck with him.
They got Cam.
That's really.

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
Just Blaze.

Speaker 3 (01:05:59):
Who's the other?

Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
person Birdman.
Birdman, he got Wayne.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
Somebody got Todd.

Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
Ain't no Todd's in this joint?
Yeah, I ain't no fool, becauseI was just out married earlier
too.
He ain't getting rid of that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
I was just playing that earlier.

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
Nigga grew up cruising down the street in my
six foot.
Damn bro, the nigga was astraight hot boy.
I don't know, hey ho.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
Devset.
I like that Chicago really likea big Philly or something I
don't know.
It's like we reflect off eachother.
That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:06:38):
Damn ho, that's crazy .
I got to take Damn.
He got to spit your game.
Talk your Talking shit.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
He's saying them.

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
I don't know you got Jay Z, jay Z what the fuck.

Speaker 3 (01:06:55):
What the hell, jay Z, you're tricky right and take
you got Beanie Siegel and takeDiddy out.
Take Diddy out, fuck it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
Damn, damn the best lyricist In the game, so you
know.
So you got beanie seagull andtake ditty out, take video out
so.

Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
So I would for me personally with that, with that
you know why you taking theditty out?

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
because we didn't tell him no person but even if I
ain't no person because looklike out, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
I feel like when it come down to that, for me it
will be like all right, what?
What style of music out of themfor Could I go out?
So that's how I'll be lookingat it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:32):
Yeah, that's like I can't go out on Bino.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
Yeah, that's why I can't.
I can't Like, that's why.

Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
I did.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
He got to stay for me , jake got to stay for me
because BD Seagull.

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
So Because Beanie Seagull him and Jay-Z and Beanie
.

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
Seagull.
They're too influential in mylife for me to let them go.

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
Let me tell you why they got the locks, the locks,
all of them.

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
Jada.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
And Birdman.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
Birdman with Lil Wayne Nicki.

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
I love what he did over there, so I would have to
get rid of Dr Dre for me youwould have to get rid of Dre
yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:08:05):
I would have to get rid of Dr Dre.
For me, you would have to getrid of Dre.
Yeah, I would have to get ridof Dre.
But look though, that is wrongthough.

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
Even though I'll probably smack myself in the
head later, but yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
I probably would have to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
You said Dre.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
Yeah, it would be Dre for me.
And who you said Diddy?

Speaker 3 (01:08:19):
Damn, I'd go with Dre too.
Fuck it bro.
No, bro, he got 50 niggas out.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
Get rich, Come on you talking about get rich and die
trying.

Speaker 3 (01:08:30):
I can't Damn, I can't let 50 go, I'm going with Diddy
man.

Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
Not even that 50 got power, 50 got BMF.

Speaker 3 (01:08:40):
You got R.

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
Kelly still.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
You got R Kelly, nicki Minaj and Drake Kelly.

Speaker 3 (01:08:56):
That's still right now.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
But Wayne, don't say, bother drinking, wayne, that's
now the legendary.
They got hot boys.
He got no, no, no, no.

Speaker 3 (01:09:07):
Take away our generation.

Speaker 1 (01:09:07):
Yeah, you know rich will be quiet to go.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
The same reason why you said the mother boys had to
go because they came afterAutumn is after everybody we
saying right now Nikki and I'mafterwards, little Kim came
before now, oh, don't look, no,no, no, kim it won't be.
No, nikki, look, I don't lookno, little Kimmy won't be no.

Speaker 3 (01:09:28):
Nikki.
You can't say that if it wasn'tfor hot, foot for hot boys.
They said that hmm, damn.

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
I ain't think of that .
Oh man, did he gotta?

Speaker 3 (01:09:46):
go make our Kelly still go man, go man.

Speaker 1 (01:09:47):
you got all right, kelly got dr, dre gotta go man
yeah I can't let dre.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
I don't know bro, it might have to be birdman yeah,
we got too many movies comingthrough dre.

Speaker 3 (01:09:58):
You got all the time, bro, and I never thought of it
how me visual production theycame, all them people on the
birdman label came after bro, nosiblings from man you gotta get
rid of.
You gotta get rid of diddy, yougotta get rid of diddy.
I think that, yeah, that mightbe the drum bro no yeah, did he

(01:10:18):
might gotta go bro white white

Speaker 1 (01:10:24):
it might be diddy white not that he might got a
slot, I like too much r b for itto Yo yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo,
yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo,yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo,
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yo, yo, yo, yo yo yo.
I played Les West Coast andanything and I don't really
listen to 50 Cent like that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
I like him, but I don't listen to him, I'm not
going to lie.
It was one point in time.

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
50 was like a soundtrack of my life for a
second.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
No, when 50 first came out, I played his album
every day, all day.

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
You had the wife beater.
No, I wasn't on that.
I wasn't on that, but-.
They had a wife, vita, that Gunit, shit yeah oh yeah, I was
rocking from it out.
I was a young gun at that time.

Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
Yeah, oh man we did all that all together.
Uh-huh, we had a great show,man.

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
That's the great era.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
about our era, though , yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
We had Dipset G unit.
We had G unit.
Yeah, we had a dip set g unit.
State property major figurescome on.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
You feel me the locks .
Y'all don't know what y'allmissing rap.
They don't even have rap groupsno, no and if they did, they'll
go kill each other no, we gotwhich one calling.

Speaker 3 (01:11:37):
We got the zelda yeah , but they, they I mean that's
good.

Speaker 1 (01:11:41):
I mean they more like they understand that Benny,
that Benny not wipe their ass.
That Benny verse on HoodOlympics?

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
They ain't no kids, these kids I said free, you
killed it free.
You killed it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:58):
I told him, I told him, I told him free.

Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
You killed it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:02):
I was right there when free got the video.
Perfect timing for them to dropyeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12:06):
Hell yeah, hell yeah, video video going crazy.
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Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
Speaker 17.

Speaker 1 (01:12:19):
Speaker 18.
Speaker 19.

Speaker 2 (01:12:22):
Speaker 20.
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, 26 Speaker, 27, like come on,we all get up.
You see, slide over the water.

Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
Yeah, I know, yeah, man, we got to train the
building.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
Make sure you share, like, subscribe Come on, you
don't comment.
If you don't, you're a buffhater.
Why?

Speaker 3 (01:12:34):
Because it's free.

Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
Yeah.

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