SY IS GONNA TALK ABOUT IT FEAT. SY YOLA RTMPODCAST | SZN 3 | EP 31 - Realer Than Most Podcast

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SPEAKER_10 (01:13):
Yo, white boy, how you wanna do this, man?

SPEAKER_09 (01:16):
Uh man, man, you know, we gonna do it the way we
supposed to do it.
How you doing today, though?

SPEAKER_10 (01:21):
I'm good, man.
You know, it's a long day, butyou know, winding down, just
kinda chillin', you know what Imean?
Got a good interview today.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
We knocking them out the box,you know what I'm saying?
That's what we do.
What's up, man?
How you doing?

SPEAKER_09 (01:42):
I like that.
That's what I'm gonnaappreciate.

SPEAKER_10 (01:44):
Uh introduce our guests, man.
They say we take too longintroducing our guests.
Introduce our guests.

SPEAKER_09 (01:50):
We got uh we got a uh a family to the pie today,
you know what I'm saying?
Sitting down with us.
You know what I mean?
He's on a uh a few platformsitself.
He has his own platform itself.
But you know, you know what Imean, came to sit down with some
players today.
You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_10 (02:06):
We got a Sayola and man, give us a round of
applause, y'all.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Yeah, yeah.
All right, man.
How you wanna start this off?
You wanna walk down or you wannaYeah, we're gonna we're gonna
walk it down.
I mean, like, I know we're gonnachill, but yeah, let's do a walk
down.

SPEAKER_09 (02:22):
We could we get a little a little something real
quick, yeah.
Just to get a viewers uh, yeah,I mean, just to know who they've
been put on who they on who'ssitting on the couch today.
That's all.

SPEAKER_10 (02:32):
Let's get it.
Let's get it.

SPEAKER_09 (02:33):
So, uh, Sad, where you from, bro?
Kensiton, Allegheny.
Okay.
That's one of the Kensington.
That's one of the roughest stopsin Philadelphia, man.
So, you know, growing up in umin the Kins in the Kensington
environment, you know, it's it'skind of crazy down there.

(02:54):
And you know, like before we uhbefore we like get into like
influences that we like maybesee on TV or like NBA basketball
players, football players, mayberappers or whoever we be having
influences like either rightoutside our door or inside our

(03:18):
house.
Give me a few of them coming upfor you.

SPEAKER_06 (03:21):
My older brother was an influence to me.
He was like Superman to me.
Polo shirts, the chicks likedthem, all of that type of stuff.
So like he was he had the bag.
So like growing up, like youknow, having braids and
different things like that.
If mine ain't have it, mybrother had it.

SPEAKER_08 (03:40):
Okay.
He was a real man.

SPEAKER_06 (03:42):
He was here, he was here.
At least at the time when youwhen you know when you're young,
yeah, you you don't you can'tarticulate, you know, you just
see what you say.

SPEAKER_08 (03:51):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (03:51):
So going so at that was at that particular time,
like my mom ain't have it's likeI'm my brother.
Like and he had a rumble game.
Like we grew up, like we you hadto rumble when we was coming up.
So I never seen him lose.
Only time I seen him lose afight was to my other older
brother, and he which is olderthan him.
But I even thought that myoldest brother couldn't beat

(04:12):
him.
Like, but so like he he had anice influence on me.
And then my brother, that's myoldest brother, him, he was one
of the ones, fly, all the girlsliked him, nice teeth.
From Francisville, my brotherRock.
So he was like one of them.
He was, you know what I mean?
And then outside of that, likewhen my pops being gone, my

(04:34):
brothers going to jail, justlike some of the old heads, they
always would be like, yo, yougonna be alright.
But at the time, I used to belike, whatever.
Right.
Yo, you cool, you throw, yeah,you hear it a lot, but you don't
really take the value of it.

SPEAKER_04 (04:46):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (04:47):
Because they don't, you don't know what they say.
You don't really understand.
I don't really understand it.
So I'm just being a knucklehead.
But all the old heads alwaysused to be like, yo, come here.
Like they always used to protectme.
Something going down on theblock.
I'm trying, yo, you wantsomething from the store?
I'm going to the store for himand all that.
They decided get off the block.

SPEAKER_02 (05:04):
Right.

SPEAKER_06 (05:04):
So I go ahead around the corner.
So, like, some a lot of the oldheads that's thorough.
Even when I went to placement, Ialways gravitated to them, like
to the old heads.
So they always, I just tookpieces of this, pieces of that.
But for the most part, it wasn'tlike the uh the basketball
players, the rappers, they neverreally had the influence on me.

(05:25):
Yeah, I wanted the money thatthey had.
But I never wanted to be them.
Money to beat them.
Like Jay-Z might be the one whoI seen that was like, damn, I
want the influence.
Hove guy.

SPEAKER_04 (05:36):
Right.

SPEAKER_06 (05:36):
Like Ho was probably the only one.
Like, if I had to studysomething, it was like Hove.
Like, like, damn, that niggajust clean.
He just Ho was he can't do nowrong type shit.
Like, whole was he always wasdifferent.
He was, and then once I gotolder and then could understand
the music, it was like, damn, hewas talking like this back then,

(05:57):
like that.
Yeah, so it made me like himeven more.
You know, like Hove might be theonly person I never met in life,
and I feel like I know thenigga.

SPEAKER_10 (06:05):
Okay.

SPEAKER_06 (06:05):
Like, that's like how I feel about Hove.
Like that nigga, like he thenigga I never met, but I know
him.

SPEAKER_10 (06:09):
I think all of us be like that.

SPEAKER_06 (06:13):
Walk right up on him.

SPEAKER_07 (06:14):
Yo, Ho Suskey.
I don't know you.
Nigga, I know you, nigga.
Right.
Exactly.

SPEAKER_09 (06:21):
So uh I heard you say uh placement.
What was it that uh landed youin placement and um why do you
think that um just answer thefirst question first and then
I'll get to the second question.

SPEAKER_06 (06:33):
Alright, so I never told nobody this story ever.
I never told nobody why I was inplacement, right?
Never exclusive.
So running around, breaking theinneries, different things, like
people knew all of that type ofshit.
I was boxing.
At a younger age, I was boxing,and I had a fight coming up, my
first fight, and me and mycousins in us get chased by the

(06:57):
cops over in Jersey.
We get chased by the cops, mycousins in them tell on me.
Right.

SPEAKER_09 (07:07):
I was gonna over Jersey gonna go.

SPEAKER_06 (07:10):
We go over Jersey, we wild up.
No, no, no, no.
We driving, we young driving, orwhatever.
I got my man will, but I'm 15and I'm I look like I'm probably
like 12, 10 years old.
You feel what I'm saying?
Right.
So this white boy sees all thesekids and like he on some, he
looking and I'm like, fuck outof here.

(07:31):
But I felt he he was followingme.
He said I hit his window.
So I'm like, what the fuck?
Like, so I'm following him.
Like, get the fuck out of here.
So we you know, I take off orwhatever, I'm driving, but then
I'm like, damn, this niggafollowing us.
So I you know how like youcoming from downtown, and you
know you can go over the bridge,but me not really having no
sense of direction, you justgoing, I'm just going, and I

(07:54):
goes over the bridge, so I'mlike, Oh shit.

SPEAKER_08 (07:56):
You on Cherry Hill.

SPEAKER_06 (07:58):
So we wind up getting off at Camden, the nigga
wind up chasing us, we wind upjumping out the wheel, running,
or whatever.
They said they want to know whowas driving, they like Sava's
driving.
So you know they tell I was onthe news and everything over
that joint.
Damn, yeah, yeah.
Cause all right, so I'm gonnatell you the whole story.
So when we jump out the wheel,it was this, it was when we come

(08:18):
down, it used to be a WacoviaBank.
This is how old this shit was.
It was a Waukovia bank.
We come down uh over the bridge,we jump out the wheel, whatever,
we run it.
I got my little cousin with me.
The nigga, he kind of chubby atthe time, but it's like my this
is like my ace in the hole stillto this day.
I'm like, I'm not leaving you.
Yeah, so he like, yo, like Ican't run no more.

(08:39):
I'm tired.
Right, go ahead.
So me being who I am, I'm like,I'm gonna get away.
I run back to where we wasoriginally at.
It was this gate full with likeit was this gate had bar wires
and shit on it.
So I run up that gate, and youknow how you kick off the gate?
It was like this balcony, so Irun and kick off the gate, and
it gave me enough room to grabthe balcony.
So I grabbed like the balconyand climb over the bar wires.

(09:01):
So the cops like, yeah, we'regonna get to say the same shit.
So they like this nigga was anigga.
They like, we're gonna get himon the other side, we're gonna
get him on the other side.
I'm cracking up like pussy.
Y'all ain't getting me shit.
So after I climb on the balcony,they had the bars up.
I climb over to like theWaucovia roof.
So I'm chilling on the roof,like, yeah, they on the other
side looking for me.
Like, I'ma just stay here allday, leave, and then call my

(09:25):
folks, like, yo, y'all gottacome get me.
Probably like 30 minutes later,I hear this like the fire
department.
So I ain't paying the shit nomind.
They coming up on the roof, thatshit stopped right in front of
the roof.
So I'm like, oh, what the fuckgoing on?
They like right there.

SPEAKER_07 (09:46):
We coming up for the day bro.
When I come, when they come andget me, it's a huddle of
motherfuckers in this land.
It's a huddle of cops.
Waiting for you to come down,waiting for me to come down.

SPEAKER_06 (09:57):
So I'm like, I ain't gonna run it, like get the fuck
out of there, spider man.
Fuck out of the spider.
They wind up booking me, right?
So making sure stay shorter,yeah.
I wind up, my mom and then windup coming over there, whatever,
grabbing me or whatever.
And um, that was the end ofthat.
What they ain't like we just gotchased by the cow.

(10:18):
So that shit was over overthere.
But now my PO catching one ofthe shit.
Because I'm on I'm on probationfrom rumbling.
This lady, this lady, this uhyoung boy punched my little uh
sister in the face.
So I wind up beating his son up,but his mom jumped in it, and
then and then me and my sisterbeat the mom and the and all the

(10:39):
other kids up.
So the cop the cops pump fake,like the cops pump fake, like,
yeah, we just gonna take y'alldown here to get to question and
see what happened.
And they wind up processing meand my sister.
Damn, yeah, and at the time we14 years old, or whatever, we
like 14.
So I was on probation from 14,and then once I turned 15,

(11:01):
that's when that followingsummer, that's when I got locked
up over Jersey.
And then my mom, this is thepart I never told nobody, and my
mom don't even know that I know.
My mom told them to lock me up.

SPEAKER_10 (11:13):
Damn, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (11:15):
So I'm coming home like, damn mom, yo, see if I can
get house arrest.
I got a fight coming up.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Woo woo.
I'm trying to my mom, like, allright, bet I'm a I'ma see.
So the whole time she's spinningme for real for real.
She already told thesemotherfuckers to lock me up.
She's spinning me, but she don'tknow.
At the time, I don't even know.

SPEAKER_10 (11:35):
Right.

SPEAKER_06 (11:36):
So she's spinning me.
So I'm thinking, like, bet, Imight got a chance.
They called me and moved mycourt date up, and I knew it was
over after that.
I was like, damn.
I was like, Mom, did you talk tohim?
I'm like, I'm teary-eyed andeverything.
Like, mom, like, did you yo,what's going on?
Did you talk to him?
She like, I'm gonna talk to him.
I'm like, mom, like they movedmy court date up.
Like everybody who court dateget moved up, they go to jail.

(11:56):
They get like, like, mom, Iain't trying to be nobody's
placement or nothing like that.
She like, no, I'm gonna talk tohim, son of the whole time
spinning me.
Damn.
So now, so once I found out,now, once I found out later on,
like years later, that that'swhat she did.
Now I can see I already knew Iwas being spent anyway.
But I didn't, I didn't, I knew Iwas being spent to a degree, but

(12:21):
when they put the pieces to thepuzzle, I'm like, damn, you
ain't never talked to you.
Did talk to him, but you ain'ttalk the talk that I wanted you
to talk, or whatever.
And then, like, so the personthat told me, they wind up
telling me, like, yo, I gottatell you something.
And I'm like, what's up?
They like, yo, you know, yourmom got you locked up.
And I was like, and then allthat shit come back in my head,

(12:43):
like, damn, yeah.
They like, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 (12:47):
I was what you think was going through her mind by
her like telling them to keepyou.
You think she was saving you?

SPEAKER_06 (12:55):
Yeah, she ultimately like I I believe so.
And it actually did save me, tobe honest, because a lot of the
qualities that I learned, a lotof time management, a lot of
tidiness, all the goodstructures, uh reading.
Like when I got locked up.

SPEAKER_10 (13:11):
Where you get sent to?

SPEAKER_06 (13:12):
I got sent to the gapes.
Yeah, I got sent to the gapes.
Yeah, I was like the gates.
When I was in the gapes, I wasuh Batman went there.

SPEAKER_09 (13:21):
Wait, how old is you?

SPEAKER_06 (13:22):
I'm 36.
I'd be 37 this year.

SPEAKER_09 (13:25):
What year are you in there at?

SPEAKER_06 (13:26):
Probably like 04, 05.

SPEAKER_10 (13:27):
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
My cousin was at the end of theday.

SPEAKER_06 (13:32):
No, that was Glenn Mills, they was treating niggas.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, Glenn Mills.

SPEAKER_10 (13:37):
Yeah, my little brother was at the way.

SPEAKER_09 (13:39):
I remember when I was with Gabes was crazy.
Gabes, Mills, Youth StudyCenter, they all them drones was
created.
Shout out back now.

SPEAKER_06 (13:47):
Yeah, but yeah, so like I do believe like all I
learned so much.
Even like when I was in a Gabes,I was probably I was in a 10th
grade or the ninth grade, but Imight have been on like on the
sixth grade reading level,seventh grade reading level.
I know I was like a couplegrades underneath my reading
level.
So when I go through the intake,because you go through intake
evaluation and all that, theylike yo, your reading level low,

(14:10):
or whatever.
So I'm like, all right.
So they like, we we suggest yougo to a reading class.
We in the games, it's a all it'sall niggas in here, the reading
class in the middle of thefucking school.
So when you come down thehallway, it's science and all
that.
The reading class is literallyin the middle of the school, but
like how I am now, that's how Ialways been.
So I was like, Well, fuck it.

(14:31):
If it's going better, me thenlet's do it.
So niggas really thought I can'tread or whatever, like you know
what I mean?
But I really could read.
So when niggas try to play meone day, like, yeah, get Saderi.
So I look like, oh, wait till weget to the front, pussy.
Like, yeah, come on, I got you.
I'll read three, four pages.
I'm like, no, I gotta, I gotta,I'm like, yeah, was that enough
for you, nut ass nigga?

(14:52):
Y'all can't be like, you knowwhat I mean?
But so I probably wouldn't uhgot the help I needed, or I
probably would have not even, Iprobably would have overlooked
that.
I probably would have been like,I'm good, or still carry no
reading.

SPEAKER_09 (15:07):
So what ultimately those placements did, you know
what I mean?
The ones that wasn't abusingkids and shit like that at the
time, it would slow their lifedown from the communities that
we was in.
And when we like turnedteenagers, a lot of us turn to
drugs and a lot of other shit,selling drugs.
So like when you get there, allthat's off the plate.

(15:28):
Now you just gotta like yougetting fully disciplined.
And for real, for real, thediscipline is like the proper
things that you should have as ayoung man going into your
adulthood.
That's what the shit is.

SPEAKER_06 (15:41):
Right, the structure, yep, destruction,
going to sleep at a certaintime, waking up at a certain
time, working out at a certaintime.
Making your bed, yeah.
Yeah, everything.

SPEAKER_09 (15:49):
Yeah, I mean, all that.

SPEAKER_06 (15:51):
And I was blessed to have some thorough Oheads on my
fret, too.
So that was that was a dopething.

SPEAKER_10 (16:00):
Wait, that was you was that was all you no.

SPEAKER_06 (16:03):
So I got I I uh after that, I haven't ran into
no major situations.

SPEAKER_08 (16:08):
So everything was tightened you up, tighten you
up.

SPEAKER_06 (16:10):
Yeah, so you you you sitting in there for 10 months,
you find out ways to do shitbetter.
Yeah, you find out the ways toanalyze.
I always analyzed.
So that was my thing.
Analyze, process, redirect,proceed and repeat.
That was my thing.
So and and and and to be honest,all the way honest, it's like
God for real, for real.

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Because a lot of the shit thatmy homies got locked up for, I
could have been locked up for.

SPEAKER_09 (16:35):
I don't have no record, right?

SPEAKER_06 (16:36):
So it's it ain't like I'mslicker than these niggas, or
you know, I mean, I might havebeen a little bit more patient
at times.
I might have took my time, Imight have took a time to learn
a little bit more about thesituation, right?
But that was all what God hadfor me.
But you know, you still pay forthat shit in different ways.
I might not have gone upstate,but you pay for it in different

(16:57):
ways.

SPEAKER_09 (16:58):
Yeah, no question.
So, you know, like you know,escaping that, getting out of
that, and then you know, being abetter person coming out of
that, and you know, you youbeing um that in the real world,
now you becoming an adult.
And you know, we we still inKesitz and we still in Philly,
you know, things are stillrough.

(17:18):
You know, give me like what youwas going through at that time
and what you had going on.

SPEAKER_06 (17:23):
Coming straight from the uh Gapes.
Yeah, uh man, that shit was likeit was crazy because when I come
home, I don't got shit.
I come home to nothing.
Think and I went to all boys'school, so thank God when I came
home it was summertime.
So now I got flip-flops.
I'm going to school inflip-flops.
That's how much I ain't hadnothing.
Like niggas stole everything Ihad.

(17:44):
I'm thinking I'm coming home toa little something.
Cousins, brothers, whatever,they stole what I had.
So I came home to nothing.
So at the time, it was superrough.
And it's the middle of the andit's the middle of the summer,
it's the middle of July, firstof the month.
You gotta wait for the first andthen hope somebody got something
for you.
So, but it turned me up though.
So Nana's, I'm I'm I'm runningaround Kissington per usual, but

(18:07):
I was against selling drugsbecause like I told you in the
beginning, my brother was likeSuperman to me, yeah.
But the nigga got locked up forselling drugs, okay.
So it was like, in my head, it'slike, no, I know how I felt
behind that shit.
So I'm like, nah, I ain't and Ihad a little brother, you know
what I mean?
So it was like, I can't, Iain't, I can't get taken away
from him because he's gonna needme, you know what I'm type shit.

(18:29):
So, but I never thought weed wasselling drugs, okay, because my
mom and them smoked my wholelife.

SPEAKER_09 (18:34):
Yeah, I ain't the same way that.

SPEAKER_06 (18:37):
Yeah, so I was like, Well, fuck it, like weed ain't
like at the time, it's stillselling drugs, but at the time,
like, man, fuck it.
I saw I grabbed some tree.
I was starting doingconstruction with my mom, uh,
old boyfriend.
I'm doing construction with him.
I got the tree a little bit frommy man, and then I and then one
of my dogs, he was here, he wasconnected to uh this African
nigga.
Okay, and this one like the Akishit first came out, yeah.

(18:59):
Or whatever.
So niggas don't even niggas justthinking they getting a cheap
polo shirt.
Yeah, I'm uh you feel what I'msaying.
Like niggas, oh you got theforces, yeah, come in here with
my man.
My man, like I discount themdrones for cuz, and then you
will get a little coupledollars.
So now we're running that play.
I got that shit on because I'malways doing that shit on.

SPEAKER_07 (19:17):
I'm loading up the whole time.
I'm I getting up, I'm gonna evendig this shit.
I'm like, why the fuck my foolsjust keep getting dick play?

SPEAKER_08 (19:25):
Like with the stripes and shit.

SPEAKER_06 (19:36):
So then, like, I've read it at play, and then
eventually, you know, you we wehustlers, we get in where we fit
in.
So I'm in high school and umfiguring it out.
They had Collin A Arts.
Okay, so I started that's how Istarted cooking.
I started I started cooking inhigh school.
So they would pay me$50 a weekto come in a half hour already
and prep the uh the food for thebreakfast.

(19:58):
So I do that, but I'm doingthat.
My man from school, he done putme on the tree game.
I didn't even know how to bagthis shit up.
I'm like, bro, like, because hewas giving me like a hundred
dollars joint.
So you give me a hundred dollarpack and say, give me fifty
dollars back, and you takefifty.
So I'm like, bet you double up,so I didn't so now be and I
don't know nothing about thegame.

(20:18):
So now he like, sir, I ain'teven gonna lie to you.
You might as well cap your ownlittle Izzy and then bag it up.
So I'm like, cuz I don't knowhow to do none of that shit.
He like, I'm gonna show you.
So from there, yeah.
So now when I first startedhustling, I I had probably two
fifty dollar packs.
Everything after that, it wasalways your own shit.

(20:39):
Yeah, because that's how Ilearned.
My man was thorough enough to belike, I'm putting you, I'm gonna
put you all the way on.
So now I'm at McDonald's, I'mworking McDonald's, working
school, and got the tree.
So before you know it, thatsummer rolling around, I'm him.

SPEAKER_04 (20:54):
Yeah, you tweaking.

SPEAKER_06 (20:55):
Yeah, I'm in my I'm in the game.
Yeah, I mean, and my mom sellingthat shit to all her
girlfriends.
I'm in the game.
Like, I'm I'm up.
Yeah, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_09 (21:07):
And then I and today, it was like so uh, you
know, you having all that, andeverything happened for you.
You come home, you seeeverything that's going on.
Like, you having that um theskill to articulate yourself
well on camera, like how thatcome about, where did it all
come from?
I know.

SPEAKER_10 (21:30):
Go ahead.
You uh you wanna take her back?
Go ahead, go ahead.
Take her back 11 years realquick.

SPEAKER_02 (21:37):
Tell her what you was doing, you're gonna let me
know.

SPEAKER_06 (21:42):
I'm gonna take her back further than that.
All right, go ahead to even tomake that make sense.
All right, bet.
Right?
So in 99, I started writingpoems.
Okay, okay, but I always tellpeople people wear masks for two
reasons.
The most common reasons is toshow to hide who you are, the
other reason is to show who youare.
And because where we come from,we don't have that voice.

(22:04):
We don't have a, you know, yourmom, you grew up with your mom,
and then it's like, yo, I saywhat I said, I said what I said,
do what I told you to do.
And that's what you and that'swhat you do.

SPEAKER_08 (22:12):
That's what you do.

SPEAKER_06 (22:13):
You you feel them say it ain't no if and buts of
body.
And you know you're not wrong.
But you can't even say thatyou're not wrong because now
you're being disrespectful.
Facts.
So I would always like, I wasalways ahead of my class.
So like my cousins in themcouldn't think like me.
So now my older cousins in them,they don't want they want to

(22:33):
undermine who I am because theydon't want they because I'm on
game.
So you can't let me know thatI'm on game, because now you can
you you can't take advantage,right?
So I was I started writingpoetry, but at the time I didn't
know about spoken word, I didn'tknow about different types of

(22:54):
poetry.
I would just vent in my makepoetry or whatever.
Yeah, but because my oldercousin, shout out to my cousin
Fame, uh Frankfurt or whatever,shout out to him.
He was rapping it, and I seenthe like notoriety he got from
that shit.
He was going to dances, doingall the hands and all that, and
they loved him battling and allthat shit.

SPEAKER_10 (23:14):
Yeah, oh my god, that was the time, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (23:18):
So now I seen him, you feel what I'm talking.
I see him, he's born with thatshit.
They love him.
So I was like, man, I don't seeno poetry lady, but I see a
rapping lane, and he helped mewith my first rap.
Okay, but I always was like shyat heart.
I'm still a shy nigga now.
I'm just confident when I'mtalking, I'm just confident in

(23:40):
what I do.
But by heart, naturally, likeI'm just like a shy in the cut
type nigga.
Like, I ain't really peoplethink that I'm outspoken and all
that.
But if I if if we if it's ahundred of us and y'all the ones
with me, I ain't really about tobe branching off unless a nigga
know me, or unless there's aconversation that I that's
intriguing, and that's somethingthat I'm confident in.

(24:00):
Other than that, I'm I'm in thecut type nigga, so I always was
scared to rap low key.
But it was like, man, fuck that.
These niggas got little fave, uhmusic that shit, and that's when
I started rapping or whatever,and then fast forward, I would
do it on and off.
I still would do the poetry, butI would do it like on and off,

(24:23):
and then when social media cameabout, and I'm like, bet, like
niggas rapping and shit.
To be on now when the rap andshit, I really didn't want to
rap.
Okay, my young boys in them washot as shit, but I had all of
the credibility.

SPEAKER_10 (24:37):
Take it back to the time.
What year was that?

SPEAKER_06 (24:39):
This is 2012, 2013 type shit.
You was performing already.
I was performing, yep, exactly.
So now my young boys in them,they high as shit.
I'm like, listen, I'm gonna turnmy downstairs to the studio.
Y'all can come here and record.

SPEAKER_10 (24:54):
Okay.

SPEAKER_06 (24:54):
I'm I'm and I'm seven years older than them, so
they mom, like, what the fuck isy'all at?
Like, who I was y'all at?
So now I gotta go drive to theirmom's crib, introduce me.
Yeah, yo, I'm such and such, Ido such and such, you know what
I mean?
They be at the crib, I be atwork, I make sure they eat.
And if y'all can make sure theyeat, they this is where they at.
Here's the airdress.

(25:14):
So I really wanted them to pop,or whatever the case may be.

SPEAKER_10 (25:18):
And then it's like who who was this?
Like, who you think about?
What artist was this?

SPEAKER_06 (25:23):
My young boy, one of them named uh Chiz Super, and my
other young boy, uh Mars, myyoung boy Mars.
My and then one of my youngboys, TK, he reminded me of
Drake back in the day.
Like he he stole Drake a wholeshit, but he was like, he was
hot as shit.
His lyrics was hot as shit.
I'm like, damn, little nigga.

SPEAKER_10 (25:43):
Like, and I wanted them little niggas to go, but
you know, I know about I knowthe time you talking.
That's that that's the time whenmusic started branching off.

SPEAKER_06 (25:54):
Yeah, yeah, that was right before the P and B rock
shit.
So now it get a littlediscouraging when niggas got a
machine behind them, so you gotother niggas that might be
dropping.
This I don't know what happenedto this nigga, the nigga B Love.

SPEAKER_09 (26:09):
Yeah, B Love.
He used to be on all the uh Pand B Rock early shit.
Harmony that himself he used toget a little dog with him and
shit.

SPEAKER_06 (26:16):
Yeah, I don't know what happened to us.
He used he was he was he was hewas getting it popping back in
the day.
This right before a couple yearslater, then core come out.
They got their little wave, theygot their little movement and
shit.

SPEAKER_10 (26:27):
Uh rock and all the rock wind up coming out.

SPEAKER_06 (26:32):
That shit, you know.
You had poop papers doing alittle bit of something at the
time, it turned up, you knowwhat I'm saying?

SPEAKER_10 (26:37):
So it's like Philly turned up, Philly on fire.

SPEAKER_06 (26:41):
We got shout out to Riga Boy, we got Riga Boy, them
niggas doing their shit.
We had Crow Vic Boys, we gotthat shit jumping, nursing them
coming down.
It was I could have really didthat shit and been gone because
it slowly but surely the piecesstarted to fall into place.
Wilo seen me one day and waslike, damn, sir, like I thought
you was out of here.
What happened?
I was like, man, them niggaswanted me to be the shooter and

(27:02):
the driver.

SPEAKER_10 (27:03):
Damn.

SPEAKER_06 (27:04):
Wilo stopped the whole thing.

SPEAKER_10 (27:06):
That was the perfect way to say it.

SPEAKER_06 (27:07):
It's like y'all want me to hangout the window, y'all want me to
get the money, y'all want me torap, y'all want me to engine,
y'all want me to do so muchshit.

SPEAKER_05 (27:13):
Oh my god.

SPEAKER_06 (27:14):
And it's like that shit become overwhelming,
especially when y'all kids forreal, for real.
Y'all ain't got no billresponsibilities.
I'm letting y'all do this shiton the on the strength.
And I don't want nothing fromit, but I just want to see you
niggas on the stage becausethat's all I can in my head.
That's all I pictured, right?
Was my young niggas on the stageas a bunch of people and they
singing they shit.
I just wanted to sit back andsmile, like, damn, them little

(27:35):
niggas did that shit.
Yeah, and I just wanted to helpwith be a part of the history,
you know what I mean?
But you know, law got differentplans, and that's it.
So you see how it goes.

SPEAKER_09 (27:44):
I mean, that's fire to even have that mindset
because it's like coming fromwhere we come from, we don't
have too many opportunities forit.
So for you to open your home andthen like investing into it, you
know what I mean?
For the kids to come somewheresafe to do what they do, you
know what I mean.
That's just a blessing, I mean,because it ain't really too many
of those out, especially likewhere we at.

(28:05):
And like they don't come, theydon't come to give a gift rap
like that.
I don't care who it is, theymake them kids pay.
I don't care how they get moneyfrom their parents, the old hair
from the black, anywhere, theygotta pay for them studio
sessions.
So that was just therapy for youto do.

SPEAKER_10 (28:19):
They gotta pay for studio sessions, videos,
everything.
All that shit every day, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (28:23):
And the nigga, my younger, he shot the videos.

SPEAKER_10 (28:26):
Damn.

SPEAKER_06 (28:26):
This nigga is a one-man band.
He can engineer, he can shootthe videos.

SPEAKER_10 (28:30):
Damn.
How y'all put together the videoum broken with chop mosely with
chop mose?

SPEAKER_06 (28:36):
So we went we was with Chop.
Chop was that Chop Moscow.
He was shooting.
Shoot everybody's shit was onfire.
Chop was on shoot, and niggasused to be like, How you get
chop?

SPEAKER_07 (28:49):
And I never would tell niggas my price.
Like, I told one nigga my time.

SPEAKER_06 (28:54):
It wasn't easy to get at that time.
Bro, I told a nigga my price onetime, went crazy.
Nigga, like, what?
Couldn't believe it.
I'll be like, Yeah, but Chop, Isent Chop something, and Chop
fucked with it.

SPEAKER_09 (29:06):
Back then, you'll throw Chop one of the Dom.
Yeah, I would tell you and shitlike that.
Chop was big, like PMB going up.
It was over after that.

SPEAKER_06 (29:15):
And and that shit, like Chop really was the the the
man behind it.
Like Chop would say his visionand he actually for your input.
Yeah, and then and it's crazybecause in that video, right?
We inside the school, uh LaSalleCollege.
Oh yeah, yeah, so bang.
So now we needed an insidescene, we needed that type of

(29:40):
vibe, you know what I mean?
Because it's broken, like youyou here and I'm here, you
there, she there.
So we like, my man, like yo, wegonna go to LaSalle, try to go
to the library or whatever.
So I'm like, all right, come on.
We get to the library, we get inthere, so they like, man, that
shit ain't gonna work.

(30:00):
I'm like, man, I'ma talk to thenigga.
They like, man, they won't work.
I'm like, bro, y'all niggas isscared.
I'm gonna talk to him.
So I go to the security guard.
I said, listen, bro, my name'sSai.
I'm an inspiring rapper.
I pulled up one of the videos.
I'm like, listen, I don't wantto make no noise.
I just want to get some footagein here.
It's me and my team.
And I just kicked, I just gaveit to him rolling up cut.

(30:22):
I ain't lie at all.
And he was like, go ahead.

SPEAKER_09 (30:25):
Yeah, so like that's the man.

SPEAKER_06 (30:27):
I just give I just told you straight like that.
And that's the they wanted thevision.
I'm like, man, once we went inthere was a guard right there.
And that's when that shit waslike, I'm like, let me talk to
him.

SPEAKER_09 (30:37):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (30:37):
And I went talk to the nigga, he let us in.

SPEAKER_09 (30:39):
Fire.
Fire.

SPEAKER_06 (30:41):
Let us in.

SPEAKER_09 (30:42):
That's fire.
I like that.
So it's like you've been had it,it's just like shooting and a
driver.
Yeah.
You had a lot on your plate, soyou weren't even really even
focused on yourself.

SPEAKER_06 (30:54):
Mm-hmm.
And then it's like niggas don'treally talk about it, but at
that time you're going throughdifferent breakups and shit like
that.
That shit really takes a toll onyou.

SPEAKER_05 (31:03):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (31:03):
Like you're going through your breakups, and or
you, you know what I mean?
You got this chick over here,you got this chick over here.
You ain't, you know what I mean?
You trying to.
That's where some of that musicshit come from, too.
Like some of those, like thatshit inspire you.
So and you trying to make itright over here.
You got your young boys in thecrib.
You don't want them to see yousweating.

(31:24):
You at the same time, I'm stillin, I'm still halfway in the
streets.
So it's like they they know Icarry a hammer, but I'm trying
to sneak out the crib with thepounds, and you get what I'm
saying?
Like, so it's like trying tohide, trying to juggle life.
Living two lives.
Right.
And then with the with yourfolks, you might think I'm
outside cheating.

SPEAKER_08 (31:44):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (31:44):
Whole time I'm in the hood.

SPEAKER_08 (31:46):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (31:46):
I'm in the hood.
But I don't want you to know I'min the hood.

SPEAKER_08 (31:50):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (31:50):
I'm hiding it from you because I felt like growing
up, a lot of niggas got caughtup letting their folks know too
much.
So in my mind was, if you don'tknow nothing, you can't say
nothing.

SPEAKER_08 (32:00):
That's the truth.

SPEAKER_06 (32:01):
So that was what I always did.
But it not, but because I neverseen no one else do it that way,
or I had no one to talk to.

SPEAKER_09 (32:10):
Put strains on a relationship.

SPEAKER_06 (32:11):
It put strains on a relationship.
And now, but that's trial anderror now.

SPEAKER_09 (32:16):
Right.

SPEAKER_06 (32:17):
I don't have nobody like, yo, cuz I'm high and such
and such.
And I don't want to, but thisshit fucking up my household.

unknown (32:24):
Right.

SPEAKER_06 (32:25):
And then I might have got caughtup with a little or a little
latte or something.
And then now I can't even, Ican't even say that I really
ain't everything you do now.

SPEAKER_10 (32:36):
You know what you're doing.
And then you feel what I'msaying?

SPEAKER_06 (32:39):
And then now you still got you in the street, so
you still gotta hold your likedon't play with me type
demeanor.

unknown (32:46):
You feel me?

SPEAKER_06 (32:47):
Like, like, and that's a whole nother joint.

SPEAKER_10 (32:50):
And then they don't even respect it after that.
It's like clown, like, don'tplay with me, clown.

SPEAKER_06 (32:57):
You feel me?
Like, and then it didn't, butthen you then you gotta go
outside and have the samedemeanor with cousin them that
yo, you can't be right here.
This ain't your like you tooclose to home, cousin.
You can't this spot right hereain't your spot.
Like, go ahead around the cornerwith that.
With hopes that you ain't gottapush a button.
Yeah, you know what I mean?
Yeah, and then you low keyalready stressed out, you know

(33:20):
what I mean?
Like, don't let don't let somedon't let that shit don't come
in the mouth.

SPEAKER_08 (33:25):
Philly for you, man.

SPEAKER_06 (33:27):
Like, or that shit don't come back, you like, oh,
what the fuck?
Now you really tight.
Yeah, hell yeah.
So it'd be a bunch of differentvariables that be like, yo,
yeah, pouring into the onesituation, pouring into the one
situation, you know what I mean?
And when you ain't got no nomotherfucking mentor in that
department, yeah, you becrashing out.

SPEAKER_09 (33:45):
Um how you and Johnny Meg Link.

SPEAKER_06 (33:49):
So we linked up through NH.

SPEAKER_08 (33:52):
Okay.

SPEAKER_06 (33:52):
So NH girl is my cousin.

SPEAKER_08 (33:57):
Okay, like my blood cousin.

SPEAKER_06 (33:59):
And me, uh it's crazy.
I just told this story.
Me and me and Johnny was aboutto rumble when I first met
Johnny.
Like, probably not the firsttime, but probably like the
second time.
You know, we we come fromPhilly, like, we ain't on no Joe
shit.
Like, yeah, are you that niggacousin?
Are you that nigga brother?
You H brother, like, and we fromPhilly, so it's like this nigga

(34:20):
just a nigga from the DVD at thetime.
Like, H.
Like, you know what I mean?
Ain't I know him, I you know, wetalk like regular shit.

SPEAKER_02 (34:27):

SPEAKER_06 (34:28):
And you know, where we come from, a nigga who got
the buzz or got the ball, youknow, a lot of it come with a
lot of groupies and differentshit like that.
So Johnny thought that that wasthe case with me the whole time.
I'm really down here for mycousin.

SPEAKER_10 (34:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (34:43):
See what I'm saying?
I'm really down here with mycousin.
I'm I'm with my blood cousin atthat, like my mom, like my dad
brother daughter type shit.
I don't even when I go to see mycousin at the time, I don't even
know that that was her dude.

unknown (34:58):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (34:58):
I learned that shit out later on down the line.
So when I come up, I'm justlike, damn, they sent my cousin
little down here, down thebottom, and I ain't seen him in
a minute.
I'm like, fuck it, let me go.
Her sister passed a couple yearsbefore that.
I'm like, man, fuck it.
Let me go see my get back tightwith my cousin.
We grown now, yeah.
And in the process of that,that's what had happened.
So Johnny come down one day andhe on his bullshit.

(35:22):
Like he he a busting type ofnigga.
Like he liked the bus, notknowing that I got an extended
clip for that shit.
I'm talking about like thisshit, like this shit like a
switch with this shit.
I am I will warm your ass up.

SPEAKER_04 (35:34):
Yeah, you got me fucked up.

SPEAKER_06 (35:36):
He came outside going one too.
Oh my god.
Yeah, so now we now we now weand Johnny going back and forth.
We busses.
He hot.
I got him hot because I told himI said back.
I'm telling you, he's cookingit.
Don't say nothing else to me,bro.
I'm getting I'm giving you agraceful bow out.

(35:57):
Don't say nothing else to me.
I'm gonna grind you the fuck up.
Man, yeah, he don't because Macreally low-key like a bully type
shit.
Yeah, he thought he was about tobully me.
I listen, man.
I give him a clip.

SPEAKER_07 (36:09):
Just don't have the chick that sell the uh pies, the
moose chick.
I think her name, the chickthat's selling the banana pies,
banana putting it.
They out there on their promorun, the milkshakes and all
that.
Bro, it's all bad bitches withthem too.

SPEAKER_09 (36:22):
Oh my god.

SPEAKER_07 (36:23):
I'm grinding, they they falling over the coolest
and shit.
I'm grinding that the fuck.

SPEAKER_06 (36:31):
I'm giving him a hundred.
Yeah, so now when you run out ofjokes, the next thing is nigga,
like, you got me fucked up andall that.
So he had on some shorts andsome shit.
So I'm like, what the fuck isthis?
He like nigga, don't touch me.
What the fuck is this?
You you pick the table upgrinding.
So now he like, what nigga?

(36:51):
So now, like, he gonna like actlike he wanted to doint me.
So I smack it, like, hey, youget your brother.
Cause now at this point, like,it's like I'm giving you your
respect because that's my bloodcousin, and this is your
brother.
I don't really want thefriction, but uh, but at this
particular moment, it's like Ifucked you up and whoever one

(37:13):
helped me.
So it's like, but because I gotrespect for you, it's like, yo,
get your folks, you know what Imean?
So he so now H like Johnny,chill, you drawing.
So now H and Johnny argue.
Because H didn't because now hethinking that he pretty he like
nigga, I'm your brother, butbecause he don't know that this
is my cousin, yeah.
So now later on they're theline.

(37:33):
So once he like he got a shotall in him and all that, so
yeah, he tight as shit.
So I'm like, get the fuck out ofhere, get up out of here, go
pull off of your caddy, you fatpussy.
Like, I've grinded, yeah.
He like, I'm gonna fuck you up,nigga.
He hot, like any one to Rumble.
Like, but he wind up leaving,probably like a couple days

(37:53):
later.
We all back down there again.
He like, damn, I ain't know youwas really folks, my bad.
I'm like, no, bro, there ain'tno hard feelings.
Like, I don't hold grudges,like, I ain't really a nigga to
hold grudges.
We meant at the end of the day,yeah.
And it's like, you feel you canfeel how you feel, you know what
I mean?
So it's like, and then afterthat, we just were like lock in
after that, you know what Imean?
And then, you know, what himgoing through his addiction and

(38:16):
all that type of shit.
Because mind you, I didn't knowJohnny, right?
So, but it was crazy becausehe's going through his
addiction, and every time, everywhich way I would turn, the
nigga would be right there.
Yeah, like Well, he, like, I'mtalking about like he got to an
accident right across thestreet.
I'm like, what the fuck is youknow what I'm saying?
Like, and and through the wholething, I was the only nigga
there for him.
Yep.

SPEAKER_09 (38:36):
Like, and that and that's how like we was crazy
because the whole time he'sgoing through that, he building
his, he's building his platform.

SPEAKER_06 (38:42):
Yeah, yep.
So, like, I was talking to themearlier, I was telling them
niggas like every time mynotifications would go off
crazy, I knew that it wassomebody telling me Johnny on
live or yeah, because Johnnywould only listen to me.
Like, Johnny, get the fuck offthe live, hang this joy, bro.
I remember one time we on live,Johnny think we on FaceTime.

SPEAKER_07 (39:00):
I'm like, cuz hang the fucking live up.
Like, let's talk aboutsomething, man.

SPEAKER_10 (39:05):
Yeah.
All right.
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SPEAKER_09 (39:12):
If you don't, you're a motherfucking hater.

SPEAKER_10 (39:14):
Why?
Because it's free.
You already know we got Sayolain the motherfucking building,
man.
Make sure y'all tune in first48.
Let's get it.
Listen, man.
When the situation with Nox andGarcia happened, man.
Like Knox, my guy.

(39:38):
Garcy, I fuck with Garcia.
I fuck with Nox.
I fuck with the whole.
I mean, oh everybody, but wheny'all went live that day, it was
like y'all little Mac.
Tell me about that, man.
Like, what happened that day,man?

SPEAKER_06 (39:56):
Honestly, I didn't even think it was gonna do what
it did, to be honest.
Like, I didn't even think it wasgonna do what it did.
Right?
So I was up all night.
Right.
I was up since I seen the video.
I never went to sleep.
That shit kept me up.
So when I'm looking at thevideo, I'm like, I don't like

(40:18):
nothing about this fucking videoat all.
So I'm I'm I'm like, I knowain't nobody do nothing to Knox.
So that shit never even poppedup in my head.

SPEAKER_09 (40:27):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (40:28):
Because I knew Knox.

SPEAKER_09 (40:30):
Right.

SPEAKER_06 (40:30):
Right?
So I'm looking like, uh-uh.
No.
And my thing was since you putit on the internet, we're gonna
talk about it.
We're gonna talk about it.
Cause it's on the internet.
Now, this was the thing.
Knox put it up first.
Cause I actually seen it on Knoxpage first.

SPEAKER_10 (40:49):
That was the all right, go ahead.
Go ahead.
Right?
So I seen it on Knox page.
It was on my go ahead.

SPEAKER_06 (40:54):
It was on Knox page.
Now, when I start seeing itsurface around, because I'm up
the whole time.
I'm talking about it's me andthe whole team of my niggas up.
And I'm like, yo, I don't likethis shit.
They like, what you talkingabout?
So they we all and then hearpotting.
Bro, and then when I see it onGarcy page, I see the handshake

(41:16):
was cut off.
I was like, oh shit.
Like all the way up until thehandshake part.
The handshake part.
Matter of fact, I didn't evensee it on Garcia page.
I seen it on Johnny page.
So you know how like sometimeswhen you watching a real and
it'll cut off, yeah.
I'm thinking that I might havedone that.
So I go back and watch it, andthen I'm like, oh shit, the
handshake cut off.

(41:38):
So then I'm like, it's someshit.
I low key, yeah, but like man,it's like in my head, it's like
I'm really mad at Knox for realfor real.

SPEAKER_10 (41:50):
Right.

SPEAKER_06 (41:51):
I'm really like, I'm like really, I'm not, I'm not
really mad.
I'm like low-key, likedisappointed.
Like, you ain't see that shit.
Like, you ain't you ain't seehow you look.
Like you didn't feel that shit.

SPEAKER_09 (42:02):
Yeah, see, he ain't understand it.

SPEAKER_06 (42:04):
He looked at it from like I'm talking about as soon
as I seen it, I felt like ill.
Like, I was like, what the fuckis so now me not really now now
when I played into it, I'm notreally, I'm just trolling Nox
how he trolled us.
Because Nox trolled us, like, ohniggas put the fix in on the

(42:24):
interview, and he on theinternet playing all that type
of shit.
So I'm not really knowing thathe's taking this shit personal
though.

SPEAKER_09 (42:31):
What that shit hurt for real.
That shit.

SPEAKER_06 (42:34):
Yeah, like I ain't know, like, so now it's like you
know, so when niggas is I'mbitting the whole time, so when
niggas is getting on my livetrying to be politically correct
and low-key throw little shotsand all that, I'm shutting that
shit down.
Like, man, I'm bitten.
Like, yeah, shut the fuck up.
Like, you want something.
What the fuck are you talkingabout?
You up here talking all this.
Shut up, like, you know what Imean?

(42:55):
So that was my that was myapproach.
But then once I talked to Knox,yeah.
Once I talked, because I meanKnox of it, you ain't even know
it was like because me and Knoxreally, we was going at it.

SPEAKER_10 (43:06):
He got mad at black, he got mad at everybody.

SPEAKER_06 (43:08):
Me and Knox we screaming on the phone with each
other.
Me and Knox pulled up on eachother.
I'm like, nigga, where you at?

SPEAKER_10 (43:15):
He like he like I'm about to go at it.
Where you at?

SPEAKER_06 (43:18):
I said nigga, I'm about to he like nigga, I'm
FaceTiming you.
I'm like, because I don't knowwho the fuck you run.
I was like, man, shut the fuckup.
I'm by myself, nigga.
He FaceTime me.
He like you niggas, nigga, whatyou standing at?
He like, I'm the night you standup.
Where you want me to meet youat?
Nigga, nigga, meet me at 22ndAlligation.
We on the corner of 22ndAlligation.
Oh my god, arguing back andforth.

(43:39):
Right at the gas station.
Niggas pulling up.

SPEAKER_07 (43:42):
We you know we situated.
We look at niggas pulling up,bro.

SPEAKER_06 (43:50):
He pull crazy.
You my man, you won't pull thetime.
And I'm like, Nox, yeah, youknow the logistics of the whole
thing.
I didn't because anytime Knoxwould try to tell me anything, I
don't want to hear that shit,Nox.
Yeah, like certain things,certain insiders.
Oh, Meek did, I don't want tohear it.

(44:11):
Yo, such and such did.
I don't want Knox being becauseme and Nox got our own
relationship, right?
So it's like Nox at the end ofthe day, my thing with Nox was
nigga, move always how you needto move for you, because being
thorough backfire.
We think being thorough is justalways a great thing.
Everything has two sides.
Oh, bro, that's like everythinghas two sides, and I learned
that shit at a young age.
Yeah, so when you're beingthorough, that shit gotta be

(44:33):
selective.

SPEAKER_09 (44:34):
And you take a loss being thorough, you take a loss.
And when certain things on theinternet, they could be
manipulated a certain way, sotherefore, like a motherfucker
gonna do whatever they want inthe comments.
You can't let it get to yourego.

SPEAKER_06 (44:46):
Yeah, because everything passes by with time.
Like, everything passed by withtime.

SPEAKER_10 (44:52):
I think the city needs to like put a blanket over
that shit right now.
And um, we need to startuniting.
It's it's millions involved.
You feel me?
Like, I'm talking about howy'all say that shit.
I'm talking about platform wise,artists-wise, everything like
it's like, all right, so likeit's different.

SPEAKER_09 (45:11):
We don't we not we not we don't be moving with the
with the drone like theycompetition.
We don't move like that, bro.
Why?
Because I don't know.
We just play shit already.
We already like have it like so.
That's why like we'll pulleverybody together.
We just had eight differentplatforms in here two days ago.

(45:33):
Like, that's just what we do.

SPEAKER_10 (45:35):
Right.

SPEAKER_09 (45:35):
I don't I don't shine and Johnny Mac and Sayola
shine, uh Ruler the Moose canshine and keep it a hundred and
keep it a yard and uh Phillyfirst 48 and uh Let It Be
Legendary and Puffin' Rod andHood Life Media, everybody can
shine right.

(45:55):
That's what the internet for isokay.
I don't want to go in a houseand just watch one thing.
After I'm done watching onething, I'm gonna watch the next
thing.
After I'm done watching the nextthing, I'm gonna watch the next
thing.
The next thing is not no, it'slike we ain't on that.
So we like we be the ones thatlike no pull the city together,
like break the ice.
Yeah, nigga, I got a studiosession, gibbs in here, Mac in
here, come on through.

(46:16):
Like, we don't be on that,right?

SPEAKER_06 (46:18):
See, the because we come from nothing.
Yeah, we come from building whowe can build with.

SPEAKER_09 (46:23):
You guys said earlier, right?
That's where we come from.
So something like we just lookat it.
Bro, we right before you walkedin, bro.
That nigga said, White boy.
That nigga said, White boy, Ilook up at that.
Like, no, for real.

(46:45):
Not in the sun, like we lookingat this shit like no, bro, like
a year ago, like a year.
You feel me?

SPEAKER_06 (46:53):
No, and it's motivation, you know what I'm
saying?
Because you got a nigga like andI say this on the camera, you
got niggas like y'all who giveme the game off the camera.
Yo, side do, yo, side, you knowwhat I'm saying?
I can call another podcast,nigga.
Yo, side.
So a lot of the time when peoplelike Philly divided, we never
seen Philly together.
But the ones who do rock witheach other, the ones who is

(47:15):
looking out for each other, itain't always gotta be publicized
either.
They don't, you know what I'msaying?
Because it's like I can me andWhiteboard been locked in since
we be going to the joint downthere.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
Come through.
I'm I'm vibing with differentpeople.
I never everybody working.
You get what I'm saying?
Everybody working.
Like, I'm the fly on the wall inthe joint.
Let me peep the blitz, that'show we be, and that's how we do

(47:36):
it.

SPEAKER_09 (47:37):
So you gotta be on it, bro.
Resources and bro, I watchedHutlum a long time ago.
Lucky Luciano said, he toldBumpy, he said, you're not gonna
make it in this game withoutalliances.
You gotta have alliances.

SPEAKER_06 (47:51):
You have to.
You have to.
You have to.
Uh-huh.
AKA if you don't have noenemies, go make some.

SPEAKER_09 (48:02):
It's just like, it's just like this.
Like we we I me personally, II've been in the streets a lot
of time doing a bunch ofbullshit.
So we doing this shit here.
We pushing positivity, man.
And we pushing like ain't nobodyhelp us.
We gonna help.

SPEAKER_10 (48:26):
No, not only that.
See, I don't know if y'all belooking at shit like me.
Like, the city, we we need tolike form some type of
coalition.
Yeah, when it comes toplatforms, because you could go
to any other city, and theseplatforms is like that.

(48:47):
And it's professional too.

SPEAKER_09 (48:49):
Um and when it's rollout time, they gonna make
it.
And when they go there, yo, nowgo over to my brother John.
He'll keep they over there.
No, go to Sister John.
They over there, so by the timeyou look out, you done did
plenty of things for your roll.
For one city.
Or for one john.
You only had to make one phonecall.
The next phone call me, the nextphone call.
The next phone call me, the nextphone call.

SPEAKER_06 (49:12):
It's I I'm I'm with that.
The only thing is niggas, I tellpeople all the time, your
character keeps you in the door,your talent lets you in the
door.
A lot of these niggas.
A lot of these niggas' charactermade a bullshit, but you can rap
good.

SPEAKER_07 (49:30):
They do.

SPEAKER_06 (49:31):
Right?
So it's like, how many times canI deal with this bad character
ass nigga?

SPEAKER_09 (49:36):
No, that's why you don't, that's why I want you
notice it you identify youidentify it and you get away
from it.

SPEAKER_06 (49:41):
And then you got, and then you, I was talking to
Cuz earlier, he said gatekeepingcan be a positive thing and a
negative thing.
And I no, everything has twosides, everything has two sides.
For an example, let's say anigga want to come up on a
podcast, he ain't got no motion.
Right?

SPEAKER_09 (49:55):
Yeah, we ain't gonna gatekeep.

SPEAKER_06 (49:57):
No, no, no.
So listen, I'm going to 2000.
So now, no, no, but see now, solisten, so listen.
Like, right?
No, because now, because now,because now Pete, Pete, that's a
disservice depending on who itis.
I'm not talking about a becauseif you got something to provide

(50:18):
after with your 2000, let's saynigga don't got no motion, but
you're trying to get some motionand you pay the you don't, but
then you got an album out.
You got something you sellingthem.
It's like we can take yourmoney, but I don't feel good
taking a nigga money and youjust want to come up here and
sit down.

SPEAKER_10 (50:33):
What you want?

SPEAKER_06 (50:34):
You ain't even gonna make your money back.

SPEAKER_10 (50:35):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (50:36):
Cause you ain't doing nothing.

SPEAKER_10 (50:37):
You just want to count nobody's pockets, bro.
No, no, no, no.
I'm not let niggas do date.

SPEAKER_06 (50:44):
I'm not counting.
No, I'm not counting niggas'pockets, I'm not counting
niggas' pockets, right?
What I'm saying is if I see anigga that don't have the
guidance, that don't have thethe business infrastructure,
that doesn't, it's like, yo, Iget you trying to go dump your
money out, but how many times usand just regular business we
dump money out and we ain't hadthat nigga to be like yo so

(51:04):
that's when we that's you mightwant to you might want to get
your assurance first before youdo that because if you do it
this way, you might have tospend an extra two thousand.

SPEAKER_10 (51:11):
That's when we come together and we have little
meetings and we do this withintegrity.
That's what I'm saying, haveintegrity with your company,
exactly.

SPEAKER_06 (51:18):
So but so that's so so that is a part of stopping
you at the gate, though.

SPEAKER_10 (51:24):
Uh no, no, no, yeah, get your shit in order.

SPEAKER_06 (51:27):
Exactly.
But and I'm gonna tell you toget your so I'm gonna stop you
here.
You can't because now my brandis on the line.
So if you come to me and youwant to start up a business, and
I'm like, all right, bet.
So I'm gonna give you a gamelook real quick.
I'm gonna do it.
Let's say a nigga say, so I wantto get some business funding, I
want to get this, that thethird.
I'm I'm like, bet you gotta getyour LOC.
I'm telling you to do everythingyou need to do, but then when we

(51:49):
get to the first thing, yourcredit bullshit.
How can you put cologne on adirty shirt?
You gotta clean it first.

SPEAKER_09 (51:55):
No, all right, so here we go.

SPEAKER_06 (51:57):
That's my thing.
So because some niggas don'tunderstand that shit, and I
don't want you to say, when youcome to me, I want you to be
ready to go in a certaindirection.
Because what's gonna happen isI'm gonna take your money and
you're gonna be like, Man, thatnigga ain't he ain't execute, or
that nigga ain't da-da-da-da.
So now, before you even before Ican even walk you to A, B, and

(52:18):
C, I gotta make sure you prep toget to A.
Some niggas think you start atA.
No, A is where it starts, but Igotta prep you before you get
there.

SPEAKER_09 (52:27):
No, see, no, see, look, you too invested.
No, no, no, no, no, nigga.
No, I'm listening to you.

SPEAKER_07 (52:36):
No, bro, shit.

SPEAKER_09 (52:40):
Bro, bro, uh by the time you get to me, my nigga, if
you ain't got your shittogether, then you need to go
build your team and get yourshit together.
But when you get to me, nigga,2,000 at this point right here.
Right.
You feel me?
Because it I ain't and we gonnaguarantee what we're gonna
guarantee for that.
That's for that, and that'sthat.

SPEAKER_05 (52:57):
That's that.

SPEAKER_09 (52:58):
But so far as what you gotta get together, and you
get that together with you andyour team.
I can't invest myself in intoyour career like that.

SPEAKER_10 (53:04):
I got artists.

SPEAKER_09 (53:06):
You feel me?
So by the time your ass get tome, have that together so that
way.

SPEAKER_07 (53:11):
When you can spend the birds together, we can put
the same together, and put themoney together, have that
together so that way when youspend that, we can get you
together.
We can set the same shit.
We're gonna guarantee you whatwe guarantee.

SPEAKER_06 (53:24):
We just said the same shit before you get to me,
have your shit together.
That's all I'm saying.
So, once again, have your shittogether because guess what?
A nigga can't come here thatain't got no money talking about
I want to sit down on the couch,right?
You gotta get you 2,000.
So, guess what?
I'm gonna be the nigga thatsays, cuz this is how you make
2,000.

SPEAKER_10 (53:43):
All right, that's the that's the left side to the
coin, right?
When it comes to us unit, uhUniting, right?
The other side to the coin iscelebrities being here.
We don't have no program for thecelebrities when they come here.
You feel me?
Like, Lil Baby come to the city,he probably just gonna deal with
Gilly Wallow and he's out ofhere.

SPEAKER_09 (54:01):
Some young stuff.
You feel me?
Niggas be wanting to sit downwith people.
Like, you feel me?

SPEAKER_10 (54:06):
And I just feel like the only reason why um people
don't pass the layup is thereason I keep saying
platform-wise, niggas don't gottheir shit together.
So I feel like we we we create acoalition with these platforms
or create something to where weall communicating with each

(54:26):
other.
And let's let's really reallyunite and start putting together
little events and little thingsfor these artists to be able to
um showcase their talent.

SPEAKER_06 (54:37):
That's what they do, they'll south affiliate the
junkyards.
You go down there for a part,they be like, we ain't got it,
but they call all the othermotherfuckers.

SPEAKER_10 (54:43):
That's exactly how it's supposed to be.

SPEAKER_06 (54:44):
Damn, yo, such and such wanna be here this weekend.
You can clear your schedule.

SPEAKER_10 (54:47):
You ever go to the junkyard?
They call out one phone thatring.
Yeah, that one black phone,yeah.
And it hit all the yards.

SPEAKER_06 (54:53):
Hit all the joints, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 (54:55):
So yeah.
So that's how I look at it.

SPEAKER_06 (54:57):
Niggas gotta get their egos out the way.
So uh niggas gotta get the it'sa competition out the way.

SPEAKER_10 (55:02):
It's no competition.
It's too much going on for it tobe a competition.

SPEAKER_09 (55:05):
That's how you feel about this.
Cause you on the platform.
So I gotta ask you this becausehe do this a lot.
I I don't know.
He probably doing it to keep hisalgorithm going.
But Johnny posts or I'm gonnajust say first 48, they post a
lot of like everything.

(55:25):
It be like a lot of stuff fromall over.
Now, when you doing that, I knowpeople do that to keep their
algorithm going, but it's notoriginal content.
How you feel about that?

SPEAKER_06 (55:36):
How do I feel about not original content?

SPEAKER_09 (55:38):
Like posting, like continuously posting content
that's not originally from youto keep your algorithm going.
How you feel about that?

SPEAKER_06 (55:51):
See, I'm more like an outside type of nigga.
So I I come from I don't like tobe honest, I never wanted to do
the internet shit.
So I always was outside.
So I'm one of them, like I wantto get that shit out the mud.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
Like, I want to get it out themud, I want to get my hands
dirty, I want to brush shoulderswith niggas.

(56:11):
Like, before I seat you on theinternet, I met you in person.

SPEAKER_09 (56:14):
No, no question.

SPEAKER_06 (56:15):
Before I followed him onInstagram, I never seen your
Instagram.
We met in person.
So that's how I am.
Like, some I feel like half andI feel like sometimes I don't
really pay attention to thatshit.
Yeah, for real, because it'slike I don't really see all the
content.

SPEAKER_10 (56:30):
We be wanting to know what's real.
I look at it like it'll keeppeople eyes paying attention to
the logo, you know what I'msaying?
Right.

SPEAKER_06 (56:40):
Um, I feel like it's a marketing strategy.
It's it's definitely marketing,but I feel like it's a marketing
strategy.

SPEAKER_10 (56:45):
It's marketing behind it.

SPEAKER_06 (56:46):
I feel like it's a marketing strategy.
Um, but to the I feel like likewe might pay a little bit more
to it because we creatorsourselves, we content creators
ourselves, but I think the onesthat's consuming, they ain't
paying attention.

SPEAKER_10 (56:59):
They ain't paying attention to it.
They like, damn, Donnie got sowe're gonna look at it, we're
gonna look at it from twodifferent views, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (57:04):
From the from the consumer aspect, you consume it.
It's content, it's content fromthe creator aspect, it's like,
especially when I like yourwork, it's like I want to see
more of your work.
Okay, like when you're acreator, it's like, yo, bro,
like I ain't seen you outside ina while.

SPEAKER_10 (57:20):
What so far I want you outside without your own
content, right?

SPEAKER_06 (57:24):
So now you get what I'm saying?
So Nana's like, yo, bro, I wantto see, especially because we
love niggas.
It's like, damn, I I I respectcontent, I know what it takes.

SPEAKER_10 (57:33):
I respect the niggas that repost the content exactly
because my content needs to bereposted.
Exactly.
I respect this, exactly.

SPEAKER_06 (57:39):
So, like at the end of it, that's how it's like you
look at it from two differentlenses.
I can see it from both lenses,and I ain't gonna lie, like I
was talking to my uh folks, andI was like, yo, you know, I'm
about to start posting morecontent, and I'm gonna start
posting other people's contenttoo.
So no, post your shit.

SPEAKER_09 (57:57):
Touch money not sety parking.

SPEAKER_06 (57:58):
So he said, he said, then one of my homies, she was
like, yo, post your shit.

SPEAKER_10 (58:03):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (58:04):
Then my other folks, she was like, yo, post your
shit.
And I was like, alright, bet.
And since I've been posting myown content, I probably within a
my shit probably be an 18 month.

SPEAKER_10 (58:15):
How long you been doing this?

SPEAKER_06 (58:16):
Like for content creating?

SPEAKER_10 (58:18):
Like, because being in front of the camera talking
with Johnny.

SPEAKER_06 (58:23):
I don't even know.

SPEAKER_10 (58:27):
Alright, so within a four-year time span, you and
Johnny Mack together, y'all ableto host the URL, well, not URL,
but the trench battle, thetrenches um with uh easy to
block Captain Remy Ma.

SPEAKER_09 (58:43):
Started at Battle Academy, though, right?
Y'all was doing that.

SPEAKER_10 (58:46):
Yeah, they was Johnny was doing the battle
academy uh stairs showing up.

SPEAKER_06 (58:52):
No, so so we we would show off as no no no no we
were doing stuff.
Was he was he on a I was doingstuff?
I think he was I was coming, Iwas I was pulling up on stairs
okay.
Yeah, they had their littlefalling out, okay.
And because, like, you know, Ifuck with St.
Still, shout out to Staiz.
That's my dog.

(59:12):
Yeah, shout out to Stes.
So me and Stiz had our ownrelationship, so I will always
try to mend this shit betweenJohnny and Stiz, but it really
wasn't nothing to bend.
It just like, you know what Imean?
Niggas see it, they views, niggagot they views.

SPEAKER_07 (59:24):
This is my man, this is my dog.

SPEAKER_09 (59:26):
Yeah, you know, I be mad at Johnny.
It's that content shit.
They be wanting their contentposter.
Yeah, they be up.

SPEAKER_10 (59:32):
All right, but back to the back to the trenches,
right?
I like that y'all doing it.
Is is more to the culture, is uhis bringing more of the fully
with the content.
Um, how y'all even get intothat?

SPEAKER_06 (59:47):
So it was a big controversy with easy, different
things with easy and shout outto the waves free surf, man.
Shout out to surf.
I love surfing surf is thereason.
Oh my god, that's my dog.

SPEAKER_10 (01:00:03):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (01:00:03):
So Surf wind up, Surf wind up hitting me.

SPEAKER_09 (01:00:07):
And we was uh cuz them niggas be putting 20 on 10
with each.

SPEAKER_06 (01:00:11):
Yeah, that's why I don't know if we was out, I
don't know where we was at, butSurf was the first one that told
us, like, you gotta help thatnigga.
So like, y'all got a niggathat's from up on your side
that's like that, yeah.
Cuz like that.
And I never heard of the nigga.
I never even seen it on thealgorithm or nothing.
Surf was the first nigga thattold us, like, yo, tap in with
cuz.
Yeah, and that's how ithappened, or whatever.

(01:00:34):
So Johnny, Johnny has more of arelationship with easy than I
do, or whatever.
So I'm straightforward type ofnigga.
So it initially I feel like Easymight have like, I don't know
how to take cuz, like, yeah, youknow what I mean?
So Johnny actually built therelationship with easy, and then
me just being the muscle that Iam and different shit like that.

(01:00:55):
It's like come on now, yeah.
So that's how it is.
So I but I overall though, Ifuck with easy.
So when he has events, I'm gonnasupport it.
He got something going on.
If he needs me to help, I'mgonna help.
I know everybody in the Philly.
So if it's like if we had anevent, I'm at the door, make I
know he got it, he's on thelist, I know he's not, I know he
get a pass, I know he don't.
So I, you know what I mean?

(01:01:16):
I'm not, I'm one of them niggas.
I don't, it ain't I don't careif I'm up here, I don't care if
I'm here, it don't matter whereI'm at, I can be top, top dog.
If I can help and assist, that'swhat I'm gonna do.

SPEAKER_09 (01:01:25):
We this are really the most exclusive.
We love battle rap.
Yeah, like we we interviewedBill guys tonight, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 (01:01:33):
Yeah, like we go to the battle raps and all.
We we don't even we don't evenpost that we there.

SPEAKER_06 (01:01:38):
Yeah, we ain't even going there for that.
Like, we doing it.
It's crazy because I'll post itup there either.

SPEAKER_10 (01:01:42):
That's that's our time.
You feel me?

SPEAKER_06 (01:01:44):
That's like a nigga just nigga watch the clip and be
like, that's how you was at thedrawer.

SPEAKER_10 (01:01:47):
Like, you know, I was uh that's a shit.
We be popping up to the littlerap battles, and well, I ain't
gonna say little, but we pop upto the rap battles.

SPEAKER_09 (01:01:55):
I used to I used to be up on easy, like man, they
gassing him.
Yeah, I used to be like thatnigga with easy man for for for
for like a year or two becauseyou just know how Philly is,
bro.
All our battle rappers, we beknowing they moms and shit.
We be knowing where they comefrom and shit, what house they
live and shit.

(01:02:16):
So I'm up out of nowhere to Iwas out of town for four years,
I gotta book the next fouryears.
Hold up, hold up, hold up.
Then I gotta listen to them,then I'll get to listen.
I'm like, all right, okay.
I respect the the Rosenberg andthe bill collectors.
Rosenberg was my guy.
I like that.
I was one of them niggas thatliked that Rosenberg when

(01:02:36):
everybody came out.
Rosenberg's still hot though.
No, he liked, but but you know,he like people didn't like
Rosenberg coming out.

SPEAKER_10 (01:02:42):
Oh, reason why I respect them dudes, they even
though they not like they arecousins, man.
They really rep this shit.
Yeah, you feel me?
You gotta respect the shit.

SPEAKER_06 (01:02:53):
And they rep their own shit too.
And they fight though.
They fight.

SPEAKER_10 (01:02:56):
And they rep their own shit when Reed and uh Kaboom
and H and all them was on a fallback, them niggas was holding it
down, they was waving the flag.
So respect to them guys, youknow what I mean?
Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_06 (01:03:09):
And they the closest thing to the city, yeah.
So it's like, you feel me?

SPEAKER_10 (01:03:13):
Who you see, who you see on a come up though, on a
battle tip right now in Philly.

SPEAKER_06 (01:03:18):
On a battle tip?
Yeah, they gotta be from Philly.

SPEAKER_10 (01:03:23):
I wanna know who from Philly you got.

SPEAKER_06 (01:03:26):
I like LND Lee.
Okay, I like Young Boy.
I think Youngboy's gonna besomething nice.

SPEAKER_09 (01:03:32):
Alright.

SPEAKER_06 (01:03:32):
I like Cash.
Uh hey huh?
Yeah, Cash, right?
Uh yeah, uh uh Gas Ganger.
He was he was cow, so cash he'stall.

SPEAKER_10 (01:03:43):
He liked what's the boy that be telling the Joe
stories?
Um Tech Sago.
Sago, I fuck with Sago.

SPEAKER_06 (01:03:50):
I like Mu Wap.

SPEAKER_09 (01:03:52):
I like Mu Wap.
He did good against Snake Eyes.
Yeah, I like that last.

SPEAKER_05 (01:03:56):
I like uh what the uh what's my what's my man?
Uh K, I think it is K.
No, what the hell is his name?

SPEAKER_06 (01:04:03):
Ah, that shit crazy.
I like news.
No, news my favorite.
Yeah, that's my favorite.
I can't I can't how the fuck Iforget news.
I don't think none of themniggas hide in news.

SPEAKER_10 (01:04:11):
Yeah, news my favorite.

SPEAKER_06 (01:04:12):
I don't think none of them only nigga, only person
I think hide of the news issurf.

SPEAKER_10 (01:04:16):
But y'all don't know news surfs, t Rex, news, news my
like that's how I rock is well,like they be thinking I'm I'm
biased.
I be trying to tell niggas toget can't fuck with news
surfaces, news.
Yeah, like that's see peopledon't know news cut from that
cloth though.

SPEAKER_06 (01:04:31):
Like news I I like news battle raps better than his
regular raps.

SPEAKER_10 (01:04:35):
Yeah, yeah, like he one of them though when it comes
to the battle rap, yeah.
Yeah, like shout out the news.

SPEAKER_06 (01:04:41):
I like his regular, I like his battle raps.

SPEAKER_10 (01:04:44):
For a minute, he well cut.
You get in front of news, beready.

SPEAKER_06 (01:04:48):
Yeah, I for I how the fuck Iforget news.
I like the Prezi, yeah.
Prezi, I like Prezi, I likePrezi.
But yeah, news my favoritethough.
News gonna smoke all of this.

SPEAKER_09 (01:04:59):
Top floor floor, Luke.

SPEAKER_06 (01:05:00):
Lute, all right, yeah, Luke can't fuck with my
man news, though.
I don't care what nobody says.

SPEAKER_09 (01:05:05):
News, I don't think nobody can fuck with news if he
likes to.

SPEAKER_06 (01:05:08):
I just feel like news got everything, and I feel
like news.
See what a lot of people don'tunderstand, what what makes surf
so dangerous, and I see the sameattributes and news because you
can be in that building and thatshit do not translate on the
camera.
Like sometimes that buildingshit be like, yo, listen, some
of them niggas in that building,that shit.

(01:05:29):
I'm talking about the floors beshaking, niggas stomping and
shit.
Like you feel that shit.
Like in the building, and thento see that shit on camera, like
some niggas, you can still feelthe same shit similar to what
you felt in the building.
It's nothing like when you get anigga that's real explosive in
the building, it never it'llit'll always be better on
camera.
I mean, it'll always be betterin the building.

(01:05:50):
But you got some niggas thatthey might have been hot as shit
in the building.
Then you go back and watch it oncamera and be like, damn, that
shit ain't translate well.
But it was hot as shit live.
Yeah, but like I had niggaswinning live.
Go back and watch it on camera,like, damn, no, he lost that
job.
Right.
Because cover shit translatewell on camera.
This shit translated in thebuilding.

(01:06:11):
Like Danny Myers is a nigga, hisshit translates well, and some
niggas don't got that effect,yeah.
Some niggas shit just don'ttranslate well.

SPEAKER_10 (01:06:20):
Danny Myers, I was sitting with him at a battle
watching and he's down to earth,too.
Yeah, I fucking contact on DannyMaggie.

SPEAKER_06 (01:06:29):
One thing about Danny, like he he's a real
nigga, like he ain't noHollywood.
Once you start getting next,like y'all know, once y'all
start getting shoulders withthat's what have that's why you
gotta be outside.
Yeah, you gotta be.
We come across this, they watchour shit like we watch their
shit.

SPEAKER_09 (01:06:49):
I ran in the bill outside, yeah, T Rex.
Like ran into the T Rexterlyshit, ran in the rex outside.
We ran into Rex, but when we Rexa genuine nigga too.
We went to interview Ron Brown'sRon Brown's car rex.
I'm like, he one of myfavorites, you know what I'm
saying?
FaceTime Rex, like, no, I'mgonna do it.

SPEAKER_06 (01:07:08):
So then we run into Rex, and he's real appreciative,
too.
Fuck with Rex, yeah.
I mean, Rex real, like I callhim so we talk like he he's a
real humble, he a good soul,man.
Like, I like you watch him oncamera, and you don't even know
he's that yeah, spirit, like thetype of spirit he has.

SPEAKER_10 (01:07:28):
You talked to him since that's it.
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (01:07:30):
I talked to him, yeah.
He good, he's great.
I called him um like probablylike a week later, I wind up
getting him on a jack.
He like, thanks, uh he said itwas just a heat stroke.
Yeah, uh uh he said, but I youcould tell because how he was
shaking his hands.
He was like, Yeah, you can tell.

SPEAKER_09 (01:07:45):
Like you know, you know, it you just start
tingling.
Tingling the chat.

SPEAKER_06 (01:07:48):
I said, Yeah, we just gotta start listening to
our bodies.
But the good thing is, like Itold him on the phone that day,
I'm happy that it happened tohim in a sense, not that it
happened, but if it happened toanybody on that stage, I'm happy
that it was a great person likehim.
So now other people can takethat shit serious because if

(01:08:09):
another little nigga did it, itprobably would have got swept
under the rug.

SPEAKER_07 (01:08:12):
Right, right.

SPEAKER_06 (01:08:12):
But we got a goat like Rex, it happened to him now
bring awareness.
So I'm happy that it was able tobring a lot of awareness behind
it.
Right.
So it's like, you know, I did Iwant it to happen to him?
No, but then but since it didhappen, I'm happy that it did
happen to him, and now so manypeople, the culture showed him
so much love, niggas wasn'tmaking memes about it, you know
what I mean?
And it was like it was it wasrespected.

SPEAKER_09 (01:08:34):
The Trunchers, the next battle event.
You gotta invite us.

SPEAKER_06 (01:08:37):
It's August the 9th, I think.
Is it New York?

SPEAKER_09 (01:08:43):
We'll be there.

SPEAKER_06 (01:08:44):
Fire.
Here ice versus easy to blockhim.
Fire.
That's gonna be a differenttalk.

SPEAKER_09 (01:08:49):
That's gonna be a good talk.

SPEAKER_10 (01:08:50):
That nigga head ice talk shit.
Easy gotta be ready for that.
He's standing in front of someshit when he's standing in front
of ice.

SPEAKER_06 (01:08:58):
Yeah, I would be in, you know, I'll be in the
building.
Here ice ain't no pushover, man.
That's a battle.

SPEAKER_09 (01:09:03):
That's a good one.

SPEAKER_10 (01:09:03):
Yeah, that's a bad one.
That's a war.

SPEAKER_09 (01:09:06):
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_10 (01:09:06):
Shout out to them guys, man.

SPEAKER_09 (01:09:08):
What you got coming up?

SPEAKER_06 (01:09:11):
Uh about to drop a poetry book song.
I'm already done it.
I gotta do the audio.
About to drop the poetry book, abook of poems, and the quotes
got quotes in it.
I'm gonna do the audio versionof it.

SPEAKER_10 (01:09:26):
You really on your books.
I seen you uh you had posts andyou was like, Yeah, men need to
start reading more.
Like, we need to uh what you wasactually saying that day.
You was actually um tellingpeople you were starting
something about like men readingbooks.

SPEAKER_06 (01:09:44):
Yeah, so basically what I wanted to do, I wanted to
do a book club and just get someof the quotes out of the books
that we be reading becausethat's what I was saying.
Like JD Kiss said you want tohide something from it, he'll
put it in the book, yeah.
And cut of a law mash that foreye, whatever happened,
happened, it was supposed tohappen, it would happen the way
that it was supposed to happen.

(01:10:05):
Yeah, reading some of thembooks, whether it be life books,
Islamic books, you realize a lotof the answers that you
searching for is inside of themfucking books.
And you be like, damn, I'mtalking about like I be in my
head, like, yo, cuz wrote this20 years ago.

(01:10:26):
And and it's relevant now.
Facts is something that can beproven, yeah.
Facts has a track record to it.
Facts, that's the differencebetween reality.
Was real, I learned this a longtime ago.
Real and truth is two differentthings.
Real is what you perceive.
Facts is something that neverchanged.

(01:10:47):
Two hours ago, I wasn't in here.
Probably five hours from now,all of us might be gone from out
of here.
And then the reality change.
A nigga that's an Africa rightnow, that's his perception,
that's his reality, which isalso which is also his truth.
But the only way he can provethat if that is true is if he
show it that it's the truth.
So we sometimes we argue twodifferent lines.

(01:11:09):
We be arguing from our point ofview, which is our reality, and
it might be our truth, versusthe actual truth.
Yeah, the truth is somethingthat we can all that it'll never
change.
We was no matter what you do.
I was born November 22nd, 88.
I can never change that.
That's facts, it's recorded,it's documented.
I know it's off my record.
Because if we didn't have thebirth certificate to prove it,

(01:11:32):
we wouldn't know when we wasborn, yeah.
Right?
So we got to deal with thefacts.
Say go to the birth certificate.
This is when we was born, thisis what it is.
That's facts, right?
Not man, what if I could havebeen born the 23rd?
You have nothing to back thatshit.
That's your theory.
Even if somebody told you thatyou was born the 23rd, if that
birth certificate doesn't, thatmight just be the re the fact

(01:11:54):
with that person's reality, youknow what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_09 (01:11:57):
So I say that all the time, perception versus
reality.

SPEAKER_06 (01:12:01):
No, no, so no, but that's the same thing.

SPEAKER_10 (01:12:02):
Perception is really, really, really fighting
that fight perception versusreality.
Like they be fighting thearchive.

SPEAKER_06 (01:12:11):
Perception is what you perceive, though.
That's your reality, yeah.
Yeah, so you know what I mean.
But the thing is, that's becauseyou're going through that.
That's not his reality, though.
That don't mean I'm going to dothat.
Yeah, you got a watch on.
That's your reality.
I don't saw you need to have awatch on.
I'm saying, nigga, that's yourreality.
You need to have a watch on.
Yeah, that's what niggas bearguing two different points of

(01:12:32):
reality.

SPEAKER_10 (01:12:33):
I might be cool with my phone.

SPEAKER_06 (01:12:34):
This shit might not even be facts.
Who the fuck said men have tohave a watch?
But you should be able to tellTyler.
Like, niggas be arguing fromtheir points of reality and then
be stating it like it's facts.
No, nigga, that's just yourperception.
That's his perception.
Yeah, niggas argue from thelevel of knowing that
understandings.

SPEAKER_10 (01:12:52):
Because what we go by over here in the states,
people don't even go by overthere.
Over there.

SPEAKER_09 (01:13:00):
Let's play a couple games before we get out of here.
You ready?
Let's get it.
The first one called Fast Trackis where I name two things, and
you just gonna pick one or theother.
Alright.
State property of major figures.
State property, Lil Baby, LilDurk.
Lil Dirk NH read dollars.

SPEAKER_06 (01:13:23):
N H.

SPEAKER_09 (01:13:26):
Slime or Pluto.

SPEAKER_06 (01:13:29):
Slime.

SPEAKER_09 (01:13:31):
Drew Hill or Jagged Ash.

SPEAKER_04 (01:13:33):
Drew Hill.

SPEAKER_09 (01:13:44):
Rockefeller, rough rotters.

SPEAKER_07 (01:13:46):
Rockefeller.

SPEAKER_09 (01:13:48):
Dame Dash or Irv Gotti.

SPEAKER_04 (01:13:50):
Dame Dash.

SPEAKER_09 (01:13:51):
Dipset or G unit.

SPEAKER_04 (01:13:55):
G Unit.

SPEAKER_09 (01:13:56):
K dot Joey Jahat.

SPEAKER_04 (01:13:58):
Joey Jahat.

SPEAKER_10 (01:13:59):
Preforge and H.

SPEAKER_09 (01:14:01):
Chill, bro.
Kree Forge and Enus.

SPEAKER_10 (01:14:04):
Enus.

SPEAKER_09 (01:14:05):
My drawing was alright.

SPEAKER_10 (01:14:08):
My drawing was alright.
That was a jaw right there.
That was a draw.

SPEAKER_07 (01:14:18):
That's a young rule.
Stop it.
All right.

SPEAKER_09 (01:14:26):
Monica keeps it.
Usher Chris Brown.

SPEAKER_10 (01:14:31):
Usher.

SPEAKER_09 (01:14:32):
Avant or tank?

SPEAKER_10 (01:14:36):
Tank.
Easy to block, Captain orCassidy.

SPEAKER_07 (01:14:44):
In the battle?
I gotta explain it to thebottom.
I can't explain it.

SPEAKER_06 (01:15:04):
But I think easy to beat it with a block at the
battle.
I think I take Cassidy on thetrack.
Yeah, I got in the battle.
I got easy winning on the trackbattle.
I got Cass.

unknown (01:15:16):
I don't know.

SPEAKER_06 (01:15:17):
I don't think Easy can rap better than Cass on the
beat.

SPEAKER_09 (01:15:21):
T Top.
Wait.
T Top or J C.
We're gonna move.

SPEAKER_03 (01:15:25):
T Top.
Um shout out to J C.
That's my dog, too.
I probably ask I probably saidthat fast, but I'm gonna stick
with my ass.

SPEAKER_10 (01:15:35):
T Rock or T Rex?

SPEAKER_09 (01:15:41):
That's a good one.

SPEAKER_07 (01:15:47):
I gotta take another rock.
Cause Rox my dog.
Shut up now.

SPEAKER_09 (01:16:00):
Um who else we got?

SPEAKER_10 (01:16:05):
Let's get it.

SPEAKER_09 (01:16:07):
Who else we just said?
What we just asked.
Press or news?
News.
I was thinking that's somebodyelse for real.
But news, my favorite right now.

SPEAKER_06 (01:16:17):
Can't nobody in Philly fuck with news.
Hands down.
I don't care who you is as abattle rapper.
You can't fuck with my guy.

SPEAKER_09 (01:16:22):
I like news.

SPEAKER_06 (01:16:23):
And I ain't biased.
And I'm putting the house up.

SPEAKER_09 (01:16:28):
Zan or caution.

SPEAKER_06 (01:16:32):
Zan.

SPEAKER_09 (01:16:34):
Um he liked that smile.
I'm sticking to it.
Hustle or jazz?
Jazz.
Forty or shoney.

SPEAKER_04 (01:16:47):
Forty.

SPEAKER_09 (01:16:50):
Um Farer or official.

SPEAKER_03 (01:16:57):
I like official.

SPEAKER_09 (01:16:59):
Swaves seven head ice.

SPEAKER_03 (01:17:01):
Head ice.

SPEAKER_10 (01:17:03):
Alright.
Wait, wait, one more.
Let me see.
Uh goods are clips.

SPEAKER_04 (01:17:17):
Goods.

SPEAKER_10 (01:17:19):
Alright, come on.
Let me go ahead.

SPEAKER_09 (01:17:21):
Alright, this one called One Gotta Go.
I'ma name four things or fourpeople and we pickin' one to go
when they go.
They whole existence go.
That means anybody that theydealt with signed or anything,
they all go.
It disappeared.
Start with this one.
Lil Wayne.
Jeezy.
Yo Gotti Gucci Man.
One gotta go.

SPEAKER_04 (01:17:40):
Lil Wayne.

SPEAKER_09 (01:17:42):
Jeezy.
Jeezy.
Gucci Man.
Gucci Man.
Yo Gotti.
One gotta go.

SPEAKER_06 (01:17:46):
Gucci Man.

SPEAKER_09 (01:17:49):
NH3 dollars.
NH.
Three dollars.
Joey Ja hat.
Oh, I just made a new one.
What the fuck that for shotright there?
Say that again.
NH3.

(01:18:10):
Joey Jay.
Meek Mill.
One gotta go.

SPEAKER_07 (01:18:18):
Damn.

unknown (01:18:25):
God damn.

SPEAKER_06 (01:18:26):
What of them gotta go?

SPEAKER_09 (01:18:28):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (01:18:29):
NH, re Dallas, Joey J.
Meek.
Meek Mills.

SPEAKER_10 (01:18:34):
One gotta go.

SPEAKER_06 (01:18:35):
Shit, if we talk about current, then I gotta get
rid of Joey.

SPEAKER_10 (01:18:38):
Okay.
It don't matter.
You gang rid of it.
Joey was one of them bulls backthen.
Joey was my favorite.

SPEAKER_09 (01:18:45):
Secret weapon, like uh Jagged Edge, 112, Drew Hill,
Joe D.
One gotta go.

SPEAKER_06 (01:18:54):
Jagged Edge, Drew Hill.
Drew Hill ain't going nowhere.
Joe D ain't going nowhere.

SPEAKER_09 (01:18:59):
112.

SPEAKER_06 (01:19:01):
112 and Jagged Edge.
Shot Jagged Ash gotta go.

SPEAKER_10 (01:19:07):
Yo, I gotta Philly drawn real quick.
One gotta go.
Philly, alright?
Philly gotta, alright.
Will Smith Beanie Seagull MeekMill Blackthor One gotta go.

SPEAKER_04 (01:19:25):
Meek Mills.
Beanie Seagull.

SPEAKER_05 (01:19:28):
Blackthor and Will Smith.

SPEAKER_10 (01:19:34):
All fully representative.

SPEAKER_06 (01:19:36):
Beans can't go nowhere.

SPEAKER_10 (01:19:38):
At all.
You can talk.

SPEAKER_06 (01:19:45):
Meek is from my era, so meek can't go nowhere.
Damn.

SPEAKER_07 (01:19:55):
Will Smith, I I Will Smith can't.
I gotta go with Black Thought.

SPEAKER_10 (01:20:00):
Damn, we're getting rid of the roots.

SPEAKER_07 (01:20:02):
I gotta get rid of Black Thought.

SPEAKER_04 (01:20:06):
That's a hard joy though.
Because you can't none of themgo nowhere.

SPEAKER_09 (01:20:10):
Sexy Red.
Shut out.
Uh Glow Rilla.
Lotto.
Sexy Red, Glorilla.
Lotto.
Okay, shout out.

(01:20:30):
There we go.

SPEAKER_04 (01:20:34):
I'm probably gonna really sexy red.

SPEAKER_09 (01:20:39):
Klizzy.
China.
Rocky.
Clay Banks, one gotta go.

SPEAKER_04 (01:20:54):
Clay Glizzy.

SPEAKER_09 (01:20:56):
K Glizzy.
Rocky.
Big China.
Oh Big China, one gotta go.

SPEAKER_04 (01:21:01):
Big China.

SPEAKER_09 (01:21:03):
Um that's cool.
Esquerilla.
O T seven quanti.
Tor.
One gotta go.

SPEAKER_04 (01:21:14):
Say that again.

SPEAKER_09 (01:21:14):
OT seven Quanti.
Tor.
O T7 go.
Little baby, Lil Dirt, Slime,Pluto.
One gotta go.

SPEAKER_04 (01:21:29):
Lil Baby.
Lil Dirk.
Slime Pluto.
Damn.

SPEAKER_06 (01:21:41):
I'm taking Lil Dirt because we probably would have
his drill shit going crazy rightnow.

SPEAKER_07 (01:21:45):
Lil Durk gotta go.
He done created a wave of somegangstick.
Demotic shit.
Like, yeah, little big littledirt.

SPEAKER_09 (01:21:54):
Rockefeller, Rough Riders.
Cash Money.
Gene Unit.
One gotta go.

SPEAKER_05 (01:22:01):
Cash Money.

SPEAKER_09 (01:22:02):
Damn.
Alright, this is the one.
This is the last one right here.
Jay-Z, Birdman.
Who's no one away?
P.
Diddy.
Dr.
Dre.
One gotta go.

SPEAKER_05 (01:22:14):
Birdman.

SPEAKER_09 (01:22:15):
Damn.

SPEAKER_10 (01:22:16):
Everything he existed.

SPEAKER_06 (01:22:18):
Yeah.
Yeah.
He got to go.

SPEAKER_10 (01:22:22):
Damn, Wayne.

SPEAKER_06 (01:22:23):
Because Dr.
Dre did.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 (01:22:27):
You wanna get rid of all that?

SPEAKER_06 (01:22:28):
I'm not getting rid of reasonable album.
Reasonable doubt can't go.
Freaking DMX had the DMX.
Bro, they were scared of DMX.
DMX got on like DMX was the DMXwas him.
Fuck no.
Growing up in 9-6.
Like, we wouldn't hear another.

SPEAKER_10 (01:22:49):
No, but but we talk about man Diddy.

SPEAKER_06 (01:22:53):
Diddy not going nowhere.
Birdman.
Be big.
Little, yeah, Birdman got to go.

unknown (01:22:59):
Dang.

SPEAKER_06 (01:23:00):
He's out of there.
Yeah, he gotta go.
I wasn't.

SPEAKER_10 (01:23:03):
You asked the reasons you keep Dre, right?
Who you listen to with Dre.

SPEAKER_06 (01:23:07):
Pac.
Pac ain't going nowhere.
You talk about Pac his movies.

SPEAKER_07 (01:23:12):
And all that's one little.

SPEAKER_06 (01:23:15):
What the West Coast represent?
Like, they still rockin'.
Like, look, they not like us.
We wouldn't have that withoutyou.
Think they're gonna let youdisrespect Pac, nigga?
So let's go be your list.
Like, like you can't no Pacdon't go nowhere.
Pac and Big got to be here.
All them other niggas disposablebesides Of.

SPEAKER_09 (01:23:34):
You the first person that said that everybody picked
Dr.
Dre.
They crazy.

SPEAKER_06 (01:23:42):
You talk about like we got listen, we got Apple
Music because of Dre.
Apple Music is a spin-off ofBeats Music.
Beats headphones and all that.
It was Beats Music.
That all came from Dre.
And then he sold it to Applewith his headphones as well.
And that's why it's Apple Musicnow.
It used to be uh Beats music.

(01:24:03):
Like he revolution.
Niggas is uploading all theyshit on Apple Music to this day.
Niggas sending you Apple Music.
There wouldn't be no Apple Musiclink without Dre.

SPEAKER_10 (01:24:12):
Y'all niggas like so Dre charging us up.
Come on, man.

SPEAKER_06 (01:24:16):
This shit.
Dre used to be 10.
Look, look, it should be like$7,I think, when it first came out.
$7 or$10.
It was something light.
It was some light shit when Drefirst came out.
Because I was on it.

SPEAKER_10 (01:24:26):
He doubled up.

SPEAKER_06 (01:24:28):
Man, he saw that shit.

SPEAKER_10 (01:24:29):
Come on, man.
Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_06 (01:24:31):
You gotta deal with Dre, man.
Like him and them beats and allthem niggas he helped produce on
the side.
Come on, man.
You can't get rid of Dre.

SPEAKER_10 (01:24:37):
Yo, this is the real the most podcast.
I'm core networking.
I'm White Boy D2A.
I got Sayola in themotherfucking building.
You already know.

SPEAKER_06 (01:24:47):
Let's get it.
Appreciate it.
We out.
We out

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