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Ever wondered what really happens behind the scenes of cosmetic procedures? Dr. Aaron Fletcher pulls back the curtain on plastic surgery in the Black community with a candid conversation that goes far beyond before-and-after photos.

What makes this discussion unique is Dr. Fletcher's unexpected journey—from an English major at Morehouse College with dreams of becoming the next Spike Lee to receiving what he describes as a spiritual calling to become a surgeon. His perspective bridges medical expertise with cultural understanding, offering insights rarely shared in mainstream discussions about body modification.

The conversation tackles psychological aspects of cosmetic surgery head-on, with Dr. Fletcher revealing why he turns down more patients than he accepts. "If you just came out of a bad relationship or domestic abuse situation and you're looking for revenge surgery, that's not the time to make a life-altering decision," he explains. This ethical approach stands in stark contrast to surgeons who prioritize profit over patient wellbeing.

Perhaps most importantly, Dr. Fletcher addresses the dangerous trend of pursuing body modifications without basic health screenings. Many patients lack primary care physicians, attempting major surgeries while managing undiagnosed conditions like high blood pressure or diabetes. He describes the recovery process rarely shown on social media—the bleeding, the painful healing, and the months spent unable to sit normally after procedures like BBLs.

Cultural influences receive thoughtful analysis too, from the Kardashian effect on beauty standards to how Michael Jackson's surgeries created lasting misconceptions about rhinoplasty results for Black patients. Dr. Fletcher emphasizes his commitment to natural-looking results that enhance rather than fundamentally alter appearance, especially for clients who may have been historically underserved by conventional plastic surgery approaches.

Whether you're considering a cosmetic procedure, concerned about a loved one's choices, or simply interested in the complex relationship between beauty standards and self-image, this episode offers valuable perspective from someone who understands both the scalpel and the soul behind the transformation decision.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
White Boy D2A.
I'm Roland and we just wrappedup the craziest, craziest
interview.
Sam, hold me down for the lightskin niggas.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
I got my fucking boys here.
I I'm not even brother than Moe, I'm really a white boy.
D2a.
This the Rilla the Most Podcast.
I'm Rilla, I'm WhiteboyD2A andyou already know.

(01:09):
We about to get into it.
Man, we got Doc in the building.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Very prestigious today, y'all.
Yes, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
We climbing the ranks , bro Come on man, I ain't going
front bro.
This is different.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
This is like this is different for us and it's dope
because it's a part of theculture and it needs to be
talked about.
Yes, like for real, you feel me,because we living in a world
today where it's a lot ofplastic surgery going on, a lot

(01:39):
of fillers going on.
It's just a lot fillers goingon, it's just a lot.
And I think that, like, I thinkthat we should get that
lifestyle from a doctor'sperspective and like full
insight on just liketransforming your body, because

(02:01):
that's a big thing to do.
That's not, that's just notnothing like, yeah, you know, I
mean, and and I think that likeum, people, that's in our
culture they do it based on um,on like on a device and like
wanting to look a certain wayfor a certain person because of

(02:23):
the device.
And I just think that, like,when you make a decision like
that with your body, I think youshould be aware of the health
issues, that that you can getfrom it and have from it Also
mental health, also mentalhealth issues, that, that, that,
that, that that it brings toyou and it builds.

(02:45):
When you um do things like that, you know, I'm saying transform
your body in a major way, we'regonna get into it yes, sir, how
you doing today, doc, I'm doinggreat man appreciate you guys
for having me, thank you forcoming
here, man appreciate you um howyou doing.
I'm doing well.
I'm doing very well.
Yes, I appreciate the walk nowyeah man, we, you know, we gotta

(03:09):
, you know we gotta do it right.
It's doc, you know I'm saying,and I, I respect what he do, my
man, I respect what he do, Irespect everything that's going
on and I just think that it'simportant for us to cover this
because how consistent the bblis in our community today, for

(03:31):
real, though not just the truth,though not just bb it's not
just the bbl, it's not, it's not, it's a lot, it's a lot, it's a
lot, and that's that's why wegot doc here.
That's exactly why we got dochere.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yep, yep.
So you know, you know um, youknow growing up and you know

(03:53):
you're not in the water.
Your mom, you know, go be adoctor, go be a lawyer.
You say and we don't really getto meet them, especially that
our our, not man, our skin color.
So what is?
It's an honor to have yousitting across from me.
I'm honored to be talking toyou about these things and and
making people aware, becauseit's like I don't think they I

(04:17):
don't think they take it asserious as it is.
Transforming your body um, openscars, wounds and things like
that.
That you just have to.
You gotta be up on when you,when you touch, when you do
stuff like that to yourself.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
Yeah, yeah and your time when you could probably
remember you first getting intolike healing and and medicine um
, yeah, so I actually got my.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
I would consider my calling in the surgery was here
in atlanta.
Um, I was actually a student atmorehouse college back in back
in the day myself, but pre-2000,I'll put it that way and um, my
undergraduate major was english, so I thought I was going to be
.
My goal was to become a filmdirector.
I wanted to be the next SpikeLee and make movies.

(05:07):
Fire, yeah, wow.
When I got to Morehouse theydidn't have a film program.
As many of you are aware, spikeLee did a lot of his filming,
especially school days at Clark,because they didn't have a
program but Clark did.
So I majored in English as mynext closest option option

(05:27):
because I thought I was going todo a lot of writing and I still
do a lot of writing.
But somewhere in my junior yearI felt like I got a calling to
go into surgery, like aspiritual calling.
I was on my way to Bible study,coming off the College Park
MARTA train and I just felt likea voice in my spirit say go be
a surgeon.
You know what I mean.
So crazy.
Like it sounds crazy, butthat's literally stopping on a

(05:48):
dime, stopping English doingpre-med and the rest is history,
you know.
God made the steps ordered and alot of things fell into place.
That happened to fall intoplace, but it wasn't like I grew
up with the Fisher-Pricestethoscope around my neck or,
like you know, planning to be adoctor from a young child I
price stethoscope around my neckor, like you know, planning to
be a doctor from a young child.
I just kind of I like scienceand when the opportunity and the

(06:08):
calling came, I just went forit.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
I think I think that's more dope.
I'm gonna tell you why becausenormally, like, like you said, I
ain't grow up with thestethoscope around my neck but
that also show, like the youngblack kids and like even like
our age people, that, like youcan do it.
Yeah, you put your mind tosomething, you lock in on it,
you'll be able to accomplish it.

(06:31):
Execute it.
Yeah, it don't matter if it's adoctor, lawyer, school teacher,
whatever it is.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
Sometimes we feel like we can't accomplish and
being in these forms, yeah, yeahand I think too, the other
thing I would tell somebody islike if you just take the first
step at something, I don't carehow many steps are ahead of you
if you take that first step andeventually it's amazing how
things line up from that point.
You know, I didn't have um, Ididn't have a mentor in medicine
, I didn't have the money totake the courses that I needed

(06:59):
to take the exam, the entranceexam for medical school.
I didn't have any of that.
But once I took that first stepand decided this is what I'm
doing, yeah, and I droppedenglish, or I didn't drop it,
but I just pursued medicineprimarily.
Everything just started comingtogether like voltron.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
After that, so you say you didn't grow up with the
stethoscope around the neck?
Yeah, so like growing up, itwasn't in atlanta, it was
actually dC, right.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
I grew up in DC, yeah , so how?

Speaker 3 (07:24):
was it growing up in DC?

Speaker 1 (07:25):
I love DC man, that's still home.
I mean, you know, I'm a go-gohead, I'm a hip-hop head.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Oh, okay, I love go-go.
Okay, I carry the DC swag.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
I still wear the New Balance.
When I came to atlanta it waslike a whole different world.
They were listening todifferent music.
I remember master p ice creamman had just dropped and we were
listening to at aliens thatjust dropped.
So I was kind of like what'sgoing on with this?
And, um, you know dc had asmall representation down here
there's like a small group atmorehouse and throughout the

(07:58):
city.
But atlanta was like a.
It was like a whole differentworld.
You know what I mean.
So, um, I definitely had tochange things around a little
bit when I got down here, Ithink that's dope.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
I think that's dope because, um dc being like
chocolate city, and then comingto atlanta, where it's just like
the land of black millionairesand black professionals, it's
like, yeah, yep, I understand,yep, yeah, yeah.
So so you know getting into toto medicine and and you know

(08:29):
being able to execute it and andyou know being able to be one
of those people to, to be ourcolor and be in that that
medicine field, do you like, doyou deal with, like being people
?
Therapy there, it's liketherapist to you know, you see

(08:49):
what I say yeah like in them.
Be in them picking the decisionto transform a body.
Are you a therapist as well?

Speaker 1 (08:56):
oh yeah, I think any plastic surgeon worth their salt
as a therapist, and the reasonis because I turned down a lot
more people than I take, becausesometimes their motivations
aren't right.
You know, like if you just cameout of a bad relationship or
you were in a domestic abusesituation and you're looking for
some kind of snapback or somekind of revenge surgery, that's

(09:18):
not the time to make alife-altering decision so a lot
of times you just have to screenwhat their motivation is and
sometimes they'll open up andtell you like look, I just broke
up with my boyfriend.
He was making fun of my nose allmy life.
Or my parents used to talk about, or I got teased as a child and
you know I never liked my noseand so you have to make sure you
could just go ahead and do youyeah, I mean, some doctors work

(09:41):
that way, but the good ones, youknow, if you, if you realize
their motivation isn't right,that sets up for a lifetime.
What would be the?
Motivation to get a bigger assuh, yeah, I don't know, I don't.
I've never been down that road,but um it's usually the same
stuff.
You know people don't like theway they look in the mirrors.
People are ashamed of certainthings.

(10:02):
They they're competitive withwhat's out here.
There's a certain standard ofbeauty that you see on the
internet that's being forced bytelevision and social media and
you feel like everybody lookslike that is that okay for a
doctor like, oh well, all right,that's okay.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Come on, I got you, get on my table there's.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
There's plenty of people that do that.
I don't do that because youcan't mess around in the face,
you know like your lower body.
You can cover that.
You can put a baggy hoodie onor some sweatpants, but when
it's your face, especially thenose, you only get one crack at
that all right.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
So now, all right, speaking on that, I'm glad you
said that.
So, uh, you got a artistry withyour work, yeah, so, um, tell
me about the the time whensomebody first looked in the
mirror, like after you worked,did your work yeah, I've had.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
I've had people cry before.
I've had people, you know,really happy the first time
first time.
Um, I'll tell you what knows is, there's usually a lot of
swelling right after, so they'reusually kind of like taken more
by the swelling it's not likean immediate result right but
over time, over maybe two, threeweeks, I've had some people
really be like man this is likeexactly what I wanted.

(11:08):
Or sometimes they'll say, man, Iwish you had done more.
You know what I mean.
And I rather them say I I would, they wish I had done more,
because I could always take more, but I can't put none of it
back once I take it.
So I always tell people withthe face like we got a nail at
the first time.
So I spend my time reallywriting down, start studying
yeah, studying what they, whatthey want, seeing if I can
actually pull it off readingarticles about the different

(11:31):
techniques that are required foreach patient, and then by the
time I get to the table, I'vedone it maybe four or five times
in my head already and that'swhat it takes to really be like
precise you know, yeah, yeah, Ilike, I like that.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
I like that you explained it that way, because a
person that might not like theyknows that will want to get
something done.
You explained it in a way whereit's like it kind of it's kind
of easy to understand if, ifthey will want to do that, you
know right right yes, because,because it's like.
that's why I was saying likeit's transmission.

(12:05):
It's something you're making adecision to change something on
your body that God gave you forthe rest of your life.
Yeah, so it's a decision thatyou are making that you're going
to have to deal with for therest of your life.
It's like having a kid orsomething.
Yeah, so it's not like you justyo, I want a new nose.
Call a doctor.

(12:27):
No, oh, you really gotta livewith that, like you know what I
mean.
Yeah, so, and one of the thingswe're seeing is filters.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
You know, people are coming in with their filters
like, oh man, I look like thison my filter.
I want to look like this inreal life and I'm like that
filter is temporary.
You might not like that samefilter in two weeks, you might
not like that filter next year,you know right filters will go
out completely in another year.
So then you stuck with a nosethat you're not happy with
because of something temporary,so it's got to be something.
I usually prefer patients thatare like me.

(12:52):
I've been wanting to do this mywhole life.
Yeah, if they're like, not likethat, I'm more likely to not
not actually take them on as aclient.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Yeah, yeah, I think that's very mature, you, and
like no one like you know, Imean like, yeah, somebody's
going to make a decision.
I want to at least like be likeon my side, on my end now I
mean responsibility.
Yes, yes, yes, I.
I.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
I like that about you because, like I said, like
people would just do it off theimpulse or off of a a post yeah,
speaking on that, what youthink like is something like
that destroys some people likeself-esteem when it comes to
like surgery before they like um, a bad result, a botched result

(13:38):
that'll kill it right there,like um, especially if people
are looking at it like man.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
What'd you do, man, I liked your nose or I liked your
face?
What'd you do that?
For you know that's, that'llkill your self-esteem,
especially if you can't fix it.
You know what I mean, and andum and that's why yes, you got a
screen for that.
You got to.
You can tell someone with lowself-esteem on a 15-minute
conversation.
You can tell what their steamis is appropriate for surgery
now in your world like all right, the tattoo world.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
They don't go over, nobody work.
So your world right.
If someone come to you, hey doc, done.
I want you to fix.
How do you feel about goingover somebody else's?

Speaker 1 (14:17):
work yeah, I do, maybe, uh, I think like
rhinoplasty or nose jobs havelike a 25 revision rate.
So I do a good number ofrevisions some of them are my
own work, where they're like man, I want to do this more drastic
or I want to do do more.
You know, but if you're in thisbusiness, you're going to
revise somebody else's work,somebody and it may not be
botched.
It may just be like, oh I, Iwant a little bit more done, or

(14:39):
you know something like that,but it's just part of the game,
you know, yeah it's part of thegame for people to normally like
come back and get sometimes.
Yeah there's a good revisionrate.
Some surgeries um, like forinstance on the lower body, like
um implants can be removed andreplaced, or downsized or
upsized, or you know certainthings like you can have lipo

(15:00):
multiple times, you can have uh,really any procedure can be
revised where you have to goback in, or you might choose a
different surgeon that you likebetter, and so that's part of
the everybody that's in thisfield has done some work from
somebody else that came in first, especially from overseas.
I see a lot of stuff fromoverseas all right, and I got

(15:20):
one more thing.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
That's.
That's around the net.
Now, when people come backright, let's say they came back
once, twice, three times, it'sthe fourth time it's like bro,
what are we doing?
Is it a point where you, likeyo, I think you're getting
addicted to this.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There's a percentage ofpatients that love they just
love going under the knife.
I've turned patients down whenthey said you know, or if you
know, here's what I really willsay.
A lot of people will be like,doc, you don't see, you don't
see how this is crooked, or andit'll be like maybe not visible
you know what I mean, you'rekind of like I don't really see
it like what are you talkingabout?

(15:57):
yeah, but there's a lot ofpeople who are, like it's called
dysmorphia, where you feel likeyou got this or things are out
of proportion, but everybodyelse sees it as normal.
Those are patients that youreally want to stay away from,
because they're addicted andthey're going to keep going
until and they're neversatisfied.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
They're going to just keep going until they could get
that's you know what you knowget something, that's somebody
probably that would built upinsecurities and yeah you?
What do you suggest for thosetype of patients that come to?
You uh psychotherapy counselingyeah straight up, because it's
usually something deep-rooted,you'll be having like numbers
for them to call and people forthem to um, I I don't offhand,

(16:34):
but if you watching and you dothat kind, of work please hit me
up because I got plenty ofpatients.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
Hey, you hear what he's saying.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
He got business for you guys.
Yeah, I mean I.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
I mean people like a lot of the women going overseas
to get the, to get the work done, as things like that.
Like how you feel about thepeople doing the work overseas,
like, do you think they like arethey qualified to do the work
or do they be like just likepeople that are just trying or
doing things?

Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yeah, there's some great surgeons overseas.
I mean a a lot of theseprocedures.
Some of these procedures, likebbl, started in brazil.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
Yeah, so I mean, they started the craze.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
So there's some great surgeons over there, um, and
then you got other people thatare just going on price, you
know it's a race to the bottom,the lowest price.
So you don't want price to bethe main factor, because if you
go overseas and you have acomplication, you won't be able
to get back to your surgeonright away.
If you have a bleed or ahematoma or a complication, you
got to hop back on a plane andgo back over there, even if it's

(17:30):
months later.
You don't have that continuity,so it's better, and then you're
going to end up with a surgeonin america.
That's like why you go overthere in the first place.
I can't fix this, or you knowthis looks terrible like I
wouldn't.
I'm not even going behind this,you know.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
So you want to have access to your surgeon for the
long haul, and that's somethingthat going overseas doesn't
afford you yeah, so so likehaving the um, so like being a
being a doctor and then havinglike the um, the rich clients,
but they shallow in the brain.

(18:03):
It's like, it's like you gottabe.
It's crazy Cause I'm like howI'm thinking of it is like I
know how shallow a black womancould be sometimes about like
the appearance.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
That's a black woman.
Any woman, yeah, any woman.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Or men too, cause there's men out here that's
shallow as well, yep.
And then I know, like youprobably get like a bunch of
things that just it's justoutlandish for real, for real,
like how do you deal with thosetype of phone calls, just like
you just asked me to, like put adump truck on your bed, but
it's wrong with you?

Speaker 1 (18:39):
yeah, yeah well, it's like that, saying like all
money's not good money, yeah youknow what I?
Mean, like I'm trying to be inthis for the long haul, it only
takes you to botch one personLike whoever did Michael
Jackson's nose or whoever didLil' Kim's first nose.
You know, you don't want to bethat guy.
You don't want to be the personthat's like man, he operated on
such and such.
That's going to kill your wholecareer.

(18:59):
You won't.
Not a long career.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
You're gonna have a bunch of botched work running
around out here in the street,and that you know so I heard, I
heard him just say uh, men,right, so the men doing plastic
surgery, right, the numbers arerising, right, yeah, but it
seemed like, when it come toplastic surgery is like hitting

(19:33):
more than the females.
Getting it done like thefemales they let you know, they
even show they weighed a surgery, yeah, but it's like the guys
is like getting it done also,but they hide it more.
What you think about that?
Like, yeah, um, what's thewhat's?
What's going on behind closeddoors, when that I think it's.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
It's like, depending on what you get done, like, I
think, a man, if he getssomething done on his face,
there's no way to really hide it.
There's a lot of men gettinglipo suction, I think, like funk
master flex got lipo orsomething.
They said uh, drake got a bb.
I don't know if that's true ornot, but there's more and more
people coming out now and sayinglike I got work done, but when
it's your body, most peopleassume that's going to be a

(20:12):
woman.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Like.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
I've done lipo on men before.
Usually it's like under here orsomething like small.
But if you're getting, like youknow, bbls and stuff like that,
it just it hasn't really caughton in the male side of things.
You just had there's a stigmaattached to it.
But I think that's going to goaway because there's more people
.
It's becoming more acceptedbecause men are in the public
eye, they want to look theirbest, just like women do.

(20:34):
They have the same motivation,basically to get work done.
But it's just still taboo amongmen.
You know, I don't think a womanwell, I don't know how a woman
would look at it.
I have to ask.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
I think it's still.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
I think it was a bit corny yeah, I mean, there's
people who look at it like ohyou know, I'm five, four, I'm
sure.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
So for me to get money and then be six feet is
kind of crazy yeah, oh, I lookat that crazy.
That's a whole, nother thewhole lengthening, leg
lengthening that's like kind ofcrazy to me yeah yeah, I don't
know about that you don't knowabout it I mean, I wouldn't do
that.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
That's like what you say you five, four, yeah, damn
doc, you can't make them more.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Five, nine, come on it's a controversial thing, man
but they're doing it.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
They're doing it in korea.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
A little bit of crib I don't know if it's really
caught on here.
There's a few people doing ithere, but yeah, you know it's a
very early procedure.
I wouldn't jump into it rightnow.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
I'll give it some time I see, um, that's a scary
procedure.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
Yeah, it's like would y'all take the legs off and add
poles in the legs?

Speaker 2 (21:34):
from these environments right, where people
hear things, yeah, or maybeeven see things, and I'll just
be like I will.
I will want them to be fullyaware of changing they sell for
the rest of their life that'swhy I think this interview was
important.
It's very informative for us tohave it on our platform because

(21:57):
of our audience.
You feel me.
And then we be having like thatdemographic where it might be a
little younger and the youngerkids are doing fully off of this
device and impulse, and I don'tthink that's right.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
I just don't think, I don't agree with that.
Yup, I don't even care if it'sa BBL.
You feel me?
Yeah, god made you perfect howI look at life.
Yeah, I'm saying if you want to, if you want to, you know, do
something to yourself, for you,for yourself.
I'm cool with that too.

(22:34):
You know what I mean, because Iain't you know, I mean I ain't
god, but I just look at it likedon't um overly harm yourself or
keep doing it, doing it, doingit, doing it and because it get
accessible.
But like I know a girl, a friendof mine, she probably like on
her third BBL.
Wow.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
Yeah, I'm saying, that's what.
That's what they say.
They get three rounds.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
She might be on her third.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
I need my third round .

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Yeah, she not 30.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
They be waiting for the third round.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
She still on her 20s.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
Yeah, I know about that you know they wait for them
.
Third round yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
I mean, like the person who they claim had the
most impact on the bbl cultureis kim kardashian, right wow her
impact with her television show, and then just showing a bit
behind the scenes and I don'tknow if you consider her to be
part of our, our culture, right,but she's influenced so many
women in our culture to havebbls, right.

(23:30):
I mean.
I mean that's not appropriate,that's not right in my mind.
And so we got to watch whereour influences are coming from
and you know, some of the peopleare really positive about their
image, but you don't want to beinfluenced by the Kardashians.
You don't want that to be thereason you decided to have
something done.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
But they have a big impact, especially on BBL and I
think that people don't knowwhat they began into because,
like our sister of mine's,actually got work done and the
healing process was hell for,like I seen the videos that I'm
coming home or leaving thesurgery.

(24:09):
Um, they released them fromsurgery and it's blood all in
the back seat, like do y'allknow about that part?

Speaker 2 (24:15):
They got the wrestling suit on.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
Yep, Do y'all know about the part where you got
laying in a car and you can'teven function the right way?

Speaker 1 (24:26):
Yeah there's a period of time you can't even lay on
your backside.
You can't sit on your backside.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
You can't sit on your backside, you can't sit on your
backside To die.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
So you got to lay on your stomach, you know, and
that's like a serious recoveryfor anybody that's used to
sleeping a certain way.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
Yeah, and especially what you think about the healing
process, like with tissuehaving to heal back up in the
right, and like what you takingcare of it and being able to
heal up the right way.
What do you think about that?
Like with people being so muchin a rush when they get surgery
done?

Speaker 1 (24:59):
Yeah.
So in order for you to healproperly, you got to have good
nutrition.
You got to have good healthgoing into it.
A lot of people don't get anyhealth care until they go to get
these procedures.
In some cases they'll be likewell'm, I don't really have any
conditions.
But you got to get tuned up forsurgery because you lose a lot
of blood.
In a lot of cases you losefluid, your electrolytes can get

(25:20):
thrown out of whack and andyou're you know you're going to
bleed, in some cases for aprolonged period of time.
So if you're not, if you'reanemic or if your nutrition
isn't on point, your healingprocesses could be compromised.
And so I think that's probablymore important than the surgery
is just to make sure you can.
You can heal appropriately,because the surgeon can do
everything they can to do aperfect surgery, and if you're

(25:43):
not watching your diet, takingyour, your vitamins, you know
that type of thing.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
Afterward you can really have a bad result, even
if the surgeon did everythingperfectly now say you got that
bad result, what that leads touh, emotional stress, uh other
issues where you probably starthaving body issues or body
issues, health issues yeah, bothboth emotional surgery really

(26:10):
serious.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
A lot of people, um, they havelike a buyer's remorse right
after, like they may be like, ohman, what did I just do?
You know, they see the swelling, they see the fluid coming out
and they're like a lot of peopleare depressed that first, maybe
few months after, becauseyou've already made an altering
decision.
But you can't go back and nowyou're dealing with all this

(26:31):
pain and it doesn't look likeyou thought it was going to look
at that period of time.
You may have months before youget to the final result.
Like with a nose job it cantake a year for all the swelling
to go.
So you know you may do aperfect surgery and it's just so
swollen and you can't reallyeven see the change and you
might be upset or depressedabout that.
Or you might have people sayinglike I don't really see what he
did or it just looks swollen,or you know.

(26:53):
And then you're like even moreself-conscious.
So you got to have a goodsupport system and that support
system is really just your.
You know people you trust withwhat you're doing and yourself.
You know loving yourself andbeing like.
You know I know I did this forthe right reason.
I'm gonna wait it out.
I'm gonna be patient.
A lot of people don't haveenough support within themselves
, even if you have familymembers, so I think that's part

(27:16):
of the screening process.
Is this person gonna be able tohandle all of the aftercare,
all of the swelling, all of the?
You know this.
That may be the doubt that itmight not turn out right.
All of that is part of what youscreen for in a Prospective

(27:41):
patient.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
If you're, if you're really on your game, you know
what I mean.
How you, how you think, um, howyou think it would turn out if
we?
Uh, how you think it would turnout.
Or, or you think the ratio ofgetting plastic surgery is on a
higher scale now than it was 10years ago oh, yeah, yeah,
because you can pull upinstagram and see plastic right,
you can see somebody flauntingtheir results.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
I mean, when I was coming up, there was a show
called dr 90210 ah, rememberthat network and one of those
networks, and that was like whenI first started seeing plastic
surgery on TV, where they werelike going behind the scenes and
like showing the surgeon in theOR, and so from that period of
time till now, like you can findthat you can find plastic
surgery anywhere, everywhere.
Back then it was like onenetwork and there was one place

(28:24):
where you could see the actualtransformations and that's what
got a lot of people being likeoh, this is, this is demystified
.
Now, like I feel comfortablegoing to do this.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
And then you had the kardashian wave.
Now you got social media andit's, it's out of here now.
Yeah see, I just don't want itto be like a thing right, are
you like?
Because I asked that, because Iit's more in our face than it
was 10 years ago and I don'twant 10 years from now for it to
be more if than what it is now.
Yeah, you know, I mean becauseit's like I don't, I don't know,
I don't really look at it aslike a super good thing all the
time.
I mean because it can be very,very emotional for people.

(29:00):
It could be very, very, uh,harmful, like them getting their
bodies back together.
And I'll be looking at it likeif you ain't, if you ain't have
a primary doctor before you wentand got some type of surgery
done to yourself.
You just got to get your lifetogether, you ain't an adult,
you feel me.
That's so common nowadays andpeople going into it like that,

(29:21):
they won't even have a primarydoctor.
They won't have an annual.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
Blood pressure will be out of control.
Blood sugar will be out ofcontrol.
They nutrition, they eating.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
Whatever all blood sugar be out of control
nutrition.
They eating whatever.
No, I mean they diet iswhatever.
Yeah and all of that plays intoabsolutely the plastic surgery
I need them to understand andnotice yeah, they don't be
knowing this.
They go into a high bloodpressure eating cheese curls I'm
still old enough to rememberkanye's mom.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
Remember what happened with her right not to
say anything bad about thesurgeon yeah, yeah you know she
had some chronic healthconditions.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
You know what I mean, and and um was it her?
Healing or um she had acomplication of one of her
chronic health conditions as Iunderstand it.
So there's a lot of people whojust walk right in.
They think they can get on thetable, not check into,
especially above 40, you knowwhere you got all these stuff
you know accumulating so there'sa lot of women who don't have
primary care and they just walkright in there and stuff flies

(30:15):
below the radar and then peoplecan end up, you know, with an
unfortunate event that's a badidea, man.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
Yeah, I will.
I want so.
If you are looking to makechanges on your body, plastic
surgery of any type of way, makesure, a year before you do it,
you get you a primary doctor andgo to all your checkups within
that year up until you going tomake the decision to make the

(30:41):
changes to your body.
I'm just saying that in care ofmy black people out there,
because we are going more intodoing things like that without
having a knowledge of the thingsthat I just said.
Yeah, and I think that weshould talk about that and like
put that, push that more to theforefront than us.
Like, yeah, get your ass done,girl yeah, I'm saying get your

(31:03):
titties done, pick your tittiesup.
I'm saying all girl, go getyour health right.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Yeah, make sure you don't got diabetes yeah before
you go lay on somebody's tableyeah, now, I mean, most clinics
will do what they call a healthscreening, where they'll
actually before you do it,they'll check your basic labs,
your electrolyte panel, yourblood, uh, blood count meaning
like are you anemic?
Um, and sometimes a lot oftimes, to do a heart tracing, a

(31:28):
ekg as well as an x-ray and andif you pass those things, in
most cases you can get thesurgery done.
But you know there's a lot ofother stuff that could be missed
.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
So I would recommend.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
You know, a lot of times your primary is the one
who does the health.
Who's going?

Speaker 2 (31:43):
to do everything on your body up until that point.
So I would go to somebody.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
You know we all trying to make our money.
So if you come in there and yougot $10,000 and you like, I
want surgery, tomorrow.
I don't know a lot of peoplethat I know people who will just
take it and they'll skirt youthrough the medical clearance
and that's when you end up withproblems, because it's just hard
to turn down cash, you know,for some people.
So you got to do your ownhomework.

(32:12):
Because, a lot of times thesurgeons you can't I mean a good
surgeon will check it, but alot of people, when faced with
that dollar, they're going to belike, all right, let's just,
you know, let's get by this andget this done, you know, Wow.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
So like that's crazy, because that's like in anything
that's out here.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
It's people that'll take a quick, but that's the
like get something done, butthat's crazy for people to do
that in a surgery world whereit's real serious.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
You do a lot of like RestoringEmotional and restoring people

(32:56):
Looks and the things that theywant, right when it come to your
problems.
Do you have that refreshmentLike are you, do you have
something to go to?
So it's like, how do you deal?

Speaker 2 (33:10):
With you being a doctor and dealing with
everything you got to deal withwith everybody else, how you
deal with chores.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
Yeah, but you got some you go to like to release
your.
Oh yeah, I'm the things youthink about.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
I work out a lot I'm.
I watch a lot of sports, I hangout with my kid.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
Hanging out with my kid is like the instant pick me
up.
You know family and uh, familyand um, you get time for that
though.
Yeah, well, I make.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
That's basically what I'm getting at yeah, I make
time because, um you know, I seea lot of patients every day.
They bring their problems, theyput their problems on my, on my
lap pause, and, um you know, Igotta kind of help them navigate
and then I gotta go home andfigure out my life now your
emotions are gonna navigate myown problems and then I gotta
re-up that the next day youcarry the emotions home

(33:57):
sometimes yeah, I think I do Ievery patient interaction leaves
a little residue, sometimesgood, sometimes bad.
If I really help somebody, I'mlike man.
I feel good about that.
Somebody was complaining.
I'm like man.
Should I be doing this?
I start to doubt.
So you know, now that I've beenin it over 10 years, I just
built up my uh, my repertoire.
Sometimes I'll just go for awalk, I'll put my headphones in

(34:18):
and just go for a walk.
Let the days, let the day passme that way.
But um yes, it's impossible notto take stuff home, especially
if you really care.
You know what I mean.
Like I'm gonna I study.
The other thing is I gotsurgery in the morning on a nose
and I gotta go home and readand look at her pictures and try
to figure out like how I'mgonna approach it.
So when I go in there I'm notlike yeah, that take a long.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
That's all the time, All the time, yeah, so but
that's what makes you great.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
You know what I mean.
That's how you become great.
You know shooting jump shotsafter the game is over, right,
some people stay in the gym andthey keep working, and other
people they hang them up and gohome.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
So I just, I just think that this, this is a
conversation that we should havemore in front of the camera,
like with more hip-hop docs forsure, I'm saying yeah, you gotta
, you gotta understand it fromfrom your perspective of being a
black man doing a lot ofsurgery on black women and the
emotional intelligence you haveto be to deal with.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
Yeah, yeah, trust me, especially the face.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
Yes, Imagine you working on a black lady nose and
you met like one little dot,yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
And you know the other thing about our people
that I think is like importantImagine you working on a black
lady nose and you met like onelittle, like a dot, like
anything, yeah.
And you know, the other thingabout our people that I think is
like important to mention is Igrew up, I'm a, I'm a.
I was born in 78.
I'm an 80s baby.
I watched Michael Jacksonchange in front of me, right,
that's all I knew about nosejobs was Michael Jackson.
So if I had a nickel for everytime a patient came into office

(35:50):
and was like OK, doc, I want mynose done, but I don't want to
look like Michael Jackson.
I mean, I could probably retiretomorrow, because that's, that's
seared in everybody's brain.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
They think every nose job looks like Michael Jackson
so.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
I have to introduce them to the nuance of the
specialty, the subtlety, like,ok, I don't do the Michael
Jackson, I don't do the littleKim, you come to me.
I'm gonna make it look better,but you're gonna look like you
were born that way you're notgonna look out of proportion and
crazy, right?
so a lot of people are stillgetting over that idea that not
everybody looks like MichaelJackson on the other side of a

(36:22):
nose job.
So you know, maybe in about 20years we won't see that because
we'll have more normal examplesyeah, so when I was, coming up.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
That's all we had that's what it's all more
natural versus extreme right.
Yeah, I'm saying that's not allwe had it was one, yeah, well
there's some other person um noeast coast yeah yeah, like
another one man.
Why'd she do it that?

(36:50):
Picture in court before she gotthat shit done the cover of the
Hardcore album.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
I was, I mean bad, right, like I just I remember
having this.
My event is when it come to Kimbro.
Yeah, listen, man, I'm tellingyou, man, like once you go, once

(37:16):
you mess it up nose, how to doa middle, middle Eastern nose,
all the articles taught you oneway to do it.
It's like going to barbershopand you only know one fade,
right.
So, everybody was making a nose, look European.
That's why Michael Jacksonhappened, that's why little Kim
happened, because you justdidn't have enough people.
And they call it ethnicrhinoplasty or nose job but it's

(37:39):
really just somebody knowingwhat to do with what's in front
of you, having like multipletools in your toolbox where
you're not going to.
You know everybody gets in yourchair, gets a bowl, fade right
Like you got some.
You know I do white people, Ido Asian, I I do every race, I
don't just do black.
And they come to me becausethey can look on my page and see
oh, this dude's responsiblewith this craft like he ain't
out here botching.
I don't see nobody looking likeanother race after he gets the

(38:00):
hold of him.
So that's like a part of why Ifeel like every client matters
for me.
I gotta pick them reallycarefully dope, dope.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Yeah, I think that's dope.
I think you should keep it thatway because, like you said, you
can see the care.
You look on your page, you seethe care, you feel what I'm
saying and then everything thatgo into it so far as the
emotional part that you helpthem through is is great as well
.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
So, yeah, I like that about you doc yeah, I like that
and turning people down likelook, I don't think I'm the
surgeon for you.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
That's even more doing yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
Like, look, I see what you want to do, but I'm not
going to do that because Idon't want my name on that Let
me ask you a question, Since wein 2025, right now, right, what
you think about AI like in thefuture helping surgery?

Speaker 1 (38:47):
Yeah, so I actually, maybe about a year ago, maybe
almost two years ago, I did acourse in AI, just because I was
hearing all this stuff abouthow I was going to replace
doctors and replace surgeons andI think it could help.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
I don't think it'll help.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
I think you know you'll be able to feed it
information.
It might give you a plan onsomething.
But surgery, I think, is alittle more technique.
Yeah, it's more techniquedriven, natural, and you, you
don't want, I don't know thatmany people that will walk into
a doctor and let a machine andbe like all right, and the
doctor be like all right, thisis who's doing your surgery and
some robot and a robot.
Come on I don't think thatwe're there yet, but we let.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
The precision is like 99.99 artistry.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
Right, like you gotta it'sa feeling.
It's a feeling and it's likeyou gotta know what to leave and
what to take away, right, sothat's like completely based on
your judgment, what you think isgoing to look good, your
experience you can't really pickthat up out of a textbook
because everybody's different.
You could set line up threemore surgeons here and give us
the same nose and we probablywould all get a decent result

(39:45):
with different techniques.
So right, you know, that's thepart.
That's what they pay for this.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
How I will look at it right.
A alpha surgeon for the surgery, right a?
I will go scan your face rightand then it will probably tell
you the answer.
All well, to take thequestionnaire, and then it'll
probably show you your face.
Yeah, the way you want it tolook yeah, yeah, that's what

(40:12):
they do.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
Doctors can do that now, but it'll do it seamless
like you don't even have to putany input in yeah um, but um
yeah right now you can do thatwith, with uh, basically with
photoshop.
There's surgeons who will takeyour picture and photoshop wow,
and then show it to you.
But that's the closest.
But I think ai is going to bedoing that.
It's going to do it.
It like before you even come tothe doctor's office.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
Yeah, like I want to know.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
And this is it yeah, and then you're going to come,
just don't tell me you can't dothis.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
It's going to work.
Don't tell me you can't do this, and if you can't, I got the
notes under here on how you canget it done.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
Right to me.
I know it is.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
I mean it's gonna be smarter than any surgeon out
there yeah, because you gotyou're gonna have regular people
coming and telling you your job, yeah, and you're gonna be like
what?

Speaker 1 (40:58):
yeah, they're not gonna be wrong, they're gonna be
a hundred percent they actuallystarted the ai hospital in
china that can see like 10 000patients in like a couple of
days get out of here, so they'realready rolling that out.
It's only seeing like clinicalstuff, not surgical, yeah, but
it's seeing the volume ofpatients that you know never
gets tired, you know what I mean.
Like you can line patients uparound the block and it's gonna

(41:18):
knock them all out all if ittakes all day, it's just going.
It ain't like I'm gonna punchout, I'm going home, I'll see
y'all tomorrow, ain't none ofthat, it's just boom boom, boom
boom, yeah, knocking them out.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
So we're here.
I heard it's different.
I heard they like.
I heard like they really likeyou get healed over there To the
point you don't need treatment.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
Because they got all them herbs and stuff like that,
all them little things.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
It's more be chicken.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
There's a bowl on your back with some smoke in it.
You know the twink in your back.
There's a bowl on your backwith some smoke in it.
Next thing you know, the twinkon your back is stopping
tweaking.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
They put water on top of your head with a napkin and
then bubbles come in the cup.
Next thing you know you got aheadache.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Bro, you put a little pin on your acupuncture and be
clear you be like what the fuck?

Speaker 3 (42:03):
What the fuck they do ?
Yeah, all right.
If you had to take a patient onthe table right now, say if it
was sports NBA, right, it's NBAplayers who would be difficult
to do surgery around whilethey're yelling at you.

(42:25):
This is a sport Coach, or?

Speaker 1 (42:27):
player Player Draymond Green.
Oh man, I knew you was going toDraymond Green.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
Oh man, I knew you was going to say Draymond.
I knew you was going to sayDraymond, green man.
I respect him as a ball player,but as a mouth he just wow,
yeah, he really stirs it up andI don't think I would be able to
concentrate Right right.
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We got Doc in the building.
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out our latest video man.
Hey, we got a few games this toplay just before you go um.
These just some hip-hop gameswe play.

(43:15):
Yeah, um, just to see where youat hip-hop wise.
Okay, yeah, because we, we forthe culture yeah um, it might
not just be music.
We might even go to fashion, wemight go to movies.
We just want to see where youat culture wise.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
So the first game, called fast track, is where I
say two things.
You just pick one of the others.
It's real easy and um, I liketo call you hip-hop doc.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
So we're gonna go, we're gonna start right here,
we're gonna start with.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
We're gonna start with.
Let's start with all right dc.
So let's go with wow.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
Let's go with wow let's go with wow let's go, wow,
let's go in dc, let's go um.
Who else we just had from dc?
It was like they don't get norecognition.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
Oh, that was baltimore okay, yeah, all right,
dc, let's go.
Damn, it's crazy because Ican't even think of the name.
But what's the name?
Don't do that.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
I ain't going to do it.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
All right, let's just do this one.
Let's do Rockefeller or RoughRider Records, which one?

Speaker 1 (44:21):
Rockefeller all day, man All day.
Jay-z, Beanie Siegel those aremy Jay-Z.
I mean, he's got multipleclassics.
You know what I'm saying I loveRough Riders too, but I think
there's more classic albums onRockefeller yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
Beans, my uncle.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
Okay, yeah, I love Beans man, I feel like Beans was
the second coldest, next toJay-Z, in my opinion on
Rockefeller.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
Oh Doc Talk.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
Yeah for sure, I like Doc.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
Because he could go to war.
He went to war when they wentto war with Nas Beanie had the
hardest.
Freestyles in that whole battle.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
You know what I mean.
I'm like yo.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
I'm going to war with Beans.
If I got to go against the MC,I want Beans on my side For real
Damn.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
I know where Doc at now.
Maxie he going to love thatshit, I'm sorry, he is All right
that shit.
All right, let's go not reallywith the team all right, okay, I
like that, doc, let's go um gunit or dip set oh um, man, I'm

(45:27):
gonna go with.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
Uh, I'm gonna go with dip set.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
Yeah, yeah, cameron, I mean, kill my guys.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
Yeah, I like them, I mean outside of 50,.
Lloyd Banks was nice, but Idon't know.
I got way more stuff that Istill play to this day from
Dipset.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Yeah, dipset was definitely more like influential
for the culture.
All right, let's go Okay.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
Wale or J Cole.
Oh man, J Cole.
I love Wale man.
I love Wale Wale's like he's DC, he gets with the Go-Go Bands,
he does live shows with Go-GoBands, he's connected.
But J Cole, he's up there, man.
Lyrically-wise andclassics-wise and and mixtape
wise.
Yeah, I gotta go with him.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
So that would be the argument.
Like J Cole probably got twoclasses under his belt and Wale
just ain't hit that pinnacle yet.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
Yeah, he's got some good mixtapes, but I think he I
don't know something with hisformula is missing.
I love Wale.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
Yeah, I love him too man, one of our somebody's uh
knocking on the door.
Mercedes, oh that's Mercedes,hello Mercedes, we're just
finishing up.
The doc, the hip-hop doc,hip-hop doc, that's family y'all
.
Mercedes just came in.
All right, I'm gonna say oneman because I I don't know if
doc want this, but I'm going tosay one man because I don't know
if Doc won this, but I'm goingto just pick one Fat Trout, okay

(46:55):
, chag Lizzy.
Oh, man, had to do it to you,doc, it's DC.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
I like Fat Trail.
He's MMG man.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
There we go.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
Yeah, I'm a real hip-hop dude man.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
Doc really tuned in.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
I would say, shotgluzy got some joints too,
though I'm going to go with FatTrail man, I'm going to go with
Fat Trail, yeah Shout out toboth of them.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
Man, Both of them guys from DC Fat Trail, shout
out to you and we're going toplay this next game.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
All right, one got to go.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
This is the one got to go.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
I named four things and we picked one to go.
But when they go, they holdexistence.
Go, okay, I like to start withthis one.
Let's go.
Yo, gotti, gucci, man, jeezy,lil Wayne, one gotta go.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Man, that's tough.

Speaker 3 (47:51):
They all had pivotal moments.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
Yeah, yeah, i'ma get rid of Yo Gotti Just cause he's
the latest.
He's the latest comer Out ofall three of those.
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
That's a good way to go about it.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
There's no way you can go with him.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
The way I go about it is millionaires I like that I
like that people want who fedfamilies yeah, I like that way
yeah, there's a bunch of waysyou can go with them.
There's so many ways to goabout it okay, let's go here.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
A little baby lord, dirt, slime, pluto, one gotta go
.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
Wow, you acting bad yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
Why you do Doc like that.
He ain't Atlanta man, I'm goingto go with Lil Durk man.
Lil Durk, yeah, I got to keepthe other three man.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
Yeah, it probably would be the same for me, yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
What's your thought process?
See, I like all right, Pluto ismy right, my number one guy
yeah, he's a game changer man,especially out of atlanta yo
slime come right at the home andthen baby, I just like that
hustler mentality.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
More so if like shooting a nigga, yeah, yeah, I
want to make the money.
I don't know, I'm cool onviolence a little bit.
You know what I'm saying rightonly, only when needed.
Right, I want to make the money.
Yeah, I'm going to go with LilBaby a little more.
Shake the streets up.

Speaker 3 (49:09):
Yeah man, that's fire .
I'm going to do some old hairladies for him.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
Let's go.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
Ready I'm ready.
Because I heard you speaking ona little bit of hip hop.
Let's Lil' Kim Foxy Brown,nikki Cardi.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
Cardi, Cardi.
The other three can really.
They can really write.
They did a lot.
They can really spit.
They did a lot.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
They did a lot for the women in the gang.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
Yeah, Lil' Kim's the pioneer, Nikki's probably the
one who took it the farthest.
The highest.
Facts, facts.
Foxy was right there with Lilplus.
She was.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
She was in the firm yeah, right, she held her own
next to nas.
Yes, she did.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
Yes, yes people write her rhymes and core mega.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
We can't like, not like, yeah, easy rid of cardi.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
No disrespect to cardi, but that's a good pig
doctor on some yeah, yeah, I'mgonna make sure, because I can
really hop in the car with me.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
I ain't gonna lie they're gonna be like.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
I like that with me, I ain't gonna lie they're gonna
be like I like that, bro, I likehow you want it especially my
brother, my brother's like myhip-hop.

Speaker 3 (50:11):
You know me and him we hip-hop heads together.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
So yeah, you can hop in the car.
I'm proud man.
I appreciate that.
Man, let's go.
Let's go.
Um, I like to do these.
Drew hill, oh who jagged edge.

Speaker 3 (50:20):
ah, you just seen the Jagged Edge.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
Jagged Edge.

Speaker 3 (50:24):
That was funny.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
Jodeci.

Speaker 3 (50:32):
Need one 112.
112.
Yes.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
That's it, that really was it, that's really it?

Speaker 1 (50:37):
That was coming anyway.
Yeah, that was really it, drew.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
Hill and guess what they got to go who 112.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
Hold up, hold up, hold up.
Yeah, I'm dropping off DrewHill Me too, I'm dropping Drew
Hill off Me too.

Speaker 3 (50:51):
What so?
That means Cisco?
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,no yeah yeah, yeah Bro did?

Speaker 1 (51:02):
you just say Drew, you got 112,.

Speaker 3 (51:05):
Jodeci, what Drew Hill album you know, I mean what
112 album you know.
But they got so many hits.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
They got all that man .

Speaker 3 (51:13):
They do, got hits, they got 112 hits they got.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
Biggie hits they got.
Mase hits they got.
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
Oh, no he talking, Cupid, Doc, no he talking.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
Cupid Doc.
No, come on, man, it's somejoint stuff, doc, you know.

Speaker 3 (51:24):
Doc you know, you know, you got with me.
Yeah, that's just me, man.
No, you know you know,sometimes I need a little
refreshment yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
Let's go.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
Let's do the major.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
That's the main one.
Right here, let's do the major.

Speaker 3 (51:39):
Diddy Wait, wait, wait Before you do it, right?
He just said Diddy, right?
There's nothing personal Aboutthis, right?

Speaker 1 (51:47):
So Just music, just influence.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, stuff like that.
So uh, jay Z, diddy, dr Dre,birdman, one gotta go Birdman.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
Yeah, birdman, easy, easy Out of those three.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
Yeah, out of those three Birdman got the best
trifecta in hip-hop history.
You don't think so nicki, nicki, wayne and drake.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
Yeah, yeah but that's not that's.
That's young money, thoughthat's like not even I mean he's
.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
He's like the old bro , that wouldn't be, that
wouldn't be possible without,without baby bro yeah, I mean he
bankrolled it.

Speaker 3 (52:17):
You just made perfect sense, though.
Right there, that is youngmoney that's young money.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
That's way Wayne found Drake, wayne signed and
found Nicki Minaj that is youngmoney under Birdman, but it's
and then, Birdman was Robin,robin folks.
He was taking people.
You know, I'm saying you gotpeople, that's broke cuz.
I never got paid.
You know, I mean allegedly so.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
DJs and all funny business.
You know what I'm saying.
I mean, did he do some funny?

Speaker 1 (52:41):
business pause, um.
But I would say, I gotta gowith bird man.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
Man, I gotta do your birth that's the first time the
first time I ever heard and youbroke it down.
Go crazy yo, you broke it downto the pocket now like did you
and I want to they know, he hard, he like thinking yeah, yeah,
yeah, I appreciate you.
He precisely thinking.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying.
I appreciate it, Like you.

Speaker 3 (53:03):
Yeah, if I get my nose job and all that when I get
them little checks.
Yeah, I might you know that Iain't going to lie.
Nobody never picked Birdman,ever bro, Really.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
Nobody, never.
I get no nose job A year doingthis.
Nobody never picked Birdman bro.
Now that was crazy.

Speaker 3 (53:22):
That was crazy.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
What was the other one besides Biggie?
I'm trying to remember it wasBiggie.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
It was.
Birdman it was hold on Diddy.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
Jay-Z.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
Jay-Z Birdman.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
Dr Dre, dr Dre, oh, dr Dre.
Yeah, I'm still.
I'm rocking with my same pick.
I bet a lot of people get ridof Dre, right, everybody Okay.

Speaker 3 (53:41):
Forget the West Coast , they could go.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
Everybody pick the West Coast.
They could go without the music.
That's 50 Cent, that's a lot ofcareers.

Speaker 3 (53:50):
That's Louis Banks, that's Young Buck, that's
Kendrick right now, that'sKendrick Right now.
There's Mustard All them, dudes, all them.
He made all the classic beatsall them dudes on the east coast
.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
He made uh what was he made one of those beats for?

Speaker 2 (54:04):
me uh fair family affair dog you know where snoop
snoop is?

Speaker 1 (54:09):
everywhere I love snoop everywhere.
Like the hip-hop rapper, he'sthe most famous I love snoop too
.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
I just love like hi, I love snoop household name.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
He's on tv every five minutes.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
Yeah, man I'd be picking dr dry that's
controversial man.
It is I like the accent, thoughjust the young man yeah, so.

Speaker 3 (54:35):
So how how can someone actually reach out to
you for?

Speaker 1 (54:40):
questions and anything, yeah, um I would say
the quickest way is through thegram.
I'm on it.
Uh, at aaron fletcher, md andum, I got another page called dr
knows better.
It's basically like me and mybrother made a bunch of hip-hop
songs into healthcare jingleswow, and my brother got original
rhymes on there.

(55:00):
So we took took like so Fresh,so Clean and made like a nasal
wrench jingle out of it.
That's a good one.
We got just a whole bunch ofcontent.
So follow Dr Dot Knows Better,my brother, who's a nurse here
in Atlanta.
We both came up here in Atlanta.
That's fire.
We want to make hip hop coolfor the kids and we want to make
being in health.

Speaker 3 (55:20):
Can you tell them more about what you do here in
Atlanta?

Speaker 1 (55:27):
Because you do here in Atlanta, because you do what
nobody else actually does here.
You know I'm saying, yeah, I'man ear, nose and throat, so I do
like tonsils.
I mean, I'm not just plasticsurgery.
I can, you know, take the waxout of your grandma's ears.
I can fix your, you know yourvocal cords.
I can take your thyroid out, Ican do all that.
Sinus surgery, allergies, um,you can bring your kids in, I do
.
You know pediatric stuff aswell.
Otherwise, y'all heat as shit.
I do everything, but I, mysubspecialty, is like the

(55:48):
plastic, so not everybody is acandidate for plastics.
I always say, like you know, Idon't go trying to look for work
, but it, you know, finds me.
So if you, if you thought aboutit, you want to have an honest
conversation with somebody who'snot going to spin you, uh, yeah
, shoot me a dm or look me up onthe internet.
My website iswwwaaronfletchermdcom.

(56:10):
My office is in stockbridge, soI'm on the south side of town
and we got a film project comingup where we're going to be
talking about the health caredesert that was created in south
atlanta below i-20 when thosetwo hospitals closed in 2020.
So, okay, we want to raise someawareness for people that don't
have health care at all, whichis a lot of us on the south side
of town.
So that's the next project wegot coming oh man, they all have

(56:33):
it.

Speaker 3 (56:33):
Fire, fire.
Yeah, I want.
I got one question, though.
You said townshaws, right, alot of people that get that,
like I know y'all think I'mabout to say something.
A lot of people that get thatis like people that snore.
Yeah, that's one reason to getthem out all right.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
Yeah, big tonsils if you have sleep apnea or if you
get a lot of strep throat likesleep apnea, that's like you
stop breathing and you stopbreathing.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
I got my tonsils took out in sixth grade yeah, I mean
it's best to do it.

Speaker 3 (56:58):
wow, so that's people get surgery for that, right?
Oh, oh, yeah, I got my tonsilstook off man.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
I broke my foot in the same year, sixth grade.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
I missed a whole year of school.

Speaker 3 (57:07):
Yeah, all right, there y'all have it, man, we got
Doc in the building.
Hip-hop Doc y'all.
Thank you for having me, man, Ienjoy it Hip-hop Doc.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
Dr Aaron, I'm White Boy D2 Ray and this is the
Really the Most Podcast, serski,really the Most Podcast.