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October 3, 2023 60 mins

Part 2: Dave & Sarah discuss experiences of addiction, mental illness, recovery, and learning how to care for & ground ourselves and deal with the inevitable pains of life in sustainable ways.

Recorded at Dave Testa's home recording studio in Seattle, WA on April 16th, 2023.

Intro/Outro song: "Bug Bear" by Climber, used with permission. Listen to Climber music on Spotify: shorturl.at/ouxS2



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