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May 23, 2025 41 mins

Broadcaster / comedian Chip Franklin is joined on the Really American Podcast by author Max Brooks discusses global geopolitical tensions, focusing on potential nuclear risks, the challenges of international alliances like NATO, and the complex dynamics between nations. Brooks explores the consequences of withdrawing from NATO, the risks of small countries developing nuclear weapons, and the intricate power struggles between racial ideologues and business interests within the Trump universe. 

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In this episode, Franklin and Brooks discuss the haunting question: What happens when governments are run by those without true knowledge or competence? Drawing from examples in Michael Lewis’s The Fifth Risk, the duo explores how dismantling essential institutions poses significant risks to global stability.


One of the central themes of their discussion is the potential danger facing small countries as powerful alliances like NATO confront existential threats. Brooks warns of the increased likelihood of these nations resorting to developing nuclear weapons—a scenario that could drastically alter global peace and security. The concept of mutually assured destruction, once a cornerstone of Cold War deterrence, could become dangerously seductive for countries feeling isolated and threatened.


Brooks further critiques the disarray within the Trump universe, where the struggle between racial ideologues and business opportunists creates a volatile mix of agendas. On one side, there are those who see globalization as a necessary evil, and on the other, those who advocate for a return to isolationist policies.


The discussion also touches on China’s growing influence and ambitions. Brooks provides a chilling reminder of the authoritarian measures China employs domestically—such as its infamous "tiger chair" torture devices and an aggressive surveillance state. In exporting this model, China presents a direct challenge to Western notions of democracy and individual liberty.


Brooks’s book, "Tiger Chair," offers a provocative narrative portraying a hypothetical occupation of Los Angeles, inviting audiences to ponder the deeper implications of international power struggles and potential military conflicts on American soil. His insights encourage listeners to consider the broader geopolitical stakes involved in current global dynamics, including China’s strategic patience and bid for dominance —a dominance pursued without a direct military confrontation with the United States.


Throughout the episode, Franklin and Brooks emphasize the importance of education and awareness. They argue that understanding the role of institutions like NATO and the historical context of America’s foreign policy empowers citizens to push back against misinformation and geopolitical aggression.


For those concerned about the erosion of democratic values and the destabilization of international order, this episode of the Really American Podcast serves as a critical wake-up call. Franklin and Brooks highlight the urgent need for informed citizens to advocate for transparency, better leadership, and global collaboration.


Stay connected with vital discussions on the Really American Podcast. Remain informed, stay vigilant, and join the fight for a future where informed action and international cooperation ensure lasting peace and prosperity.


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