January 25, 2025 • 17 mins
In this episode we talk with our listener Devora’s two recently departed guppies. Conversing with her guppies reveals a complex metaphysical plane where all kinds of small animals, insects, fish, etc. interact with and help Devora in various ways. It turns out that Devora is an “Old Soul” who has always been surrounded by such small animal energies. These mutually beneficial relationships provide assistance, protection, entertainment, etc. to both Devora and her small animal companions.
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(00:04):
Welcome to Realm to
Realm for fun and enlighteningmultidimensional interviews.
Well. Hello, Diana.
Hello, Karin. How are you? Good.
How are you? I'm pretty good.
So today we're doing a short podcast
on one of our fans has written inand asked if we could talk to her.
Guppies.
She had a pair of guppiesthat were very playful,
(00:28):
and she could kind of,you know, move her face back and forth
and boys would follow her and now seemedlike really happy to see her.
And guppies don't live forever.And they passed.
And she's wondering what they're doing,where they went and what they're thinking.
And then she's gotten some new guppiesthat aren't
quite as attentiveand she's wondering about that as well.
(00:50):
So can we tap into her guppies for.
Yes, we will try. Okay, that'd be awesome.
Okay, so, She didn't name
the guppies, so we're just goingto have to call in divorced guppies.
All is guppyone Guppy two Guppy three before.
Okay, you see four guppies.
Okay.
Interestingly enough, a couple of minutesago, it was a guppy that appeared okay.
(01:16):
It's actually pretty big. Guppy.
There's more than a life size, right?
Well, more than life size.
Like 4in or 6in or like.
Well, size of. A like a foot locker.
Oh, okay. That's a big guppy.
Well, I mean, not really,
but somehow thisthis is must be one of the deceased ones.
Okay.
(01:36):
So, you know, he she they
they're kind of, like,just looking at me, like,
okay, you know, what do you want?
What do you want?
We just want to know what's. What's it?
Where'd it go?
What's it doing now?
Okay, so, Does it Miss Deborah?
(01:58):
A couple questions like that.
Yeah, right. So
I'm going to just say he's okay.
He is.
He is saying that,
You know, they him and his friend,
they decided to leave.
(02:21):
You know, they're they're nice.
Guppy. Guppy world
in D'ivoire's aquarium.
Did they get old?
They.
You know, like. Yeah.
I mean, they're they were.
They were old, according to Guppy lives.
(02:45):
And so their time was up,and they they just passed on.
But, you know,they both were okay with that.
And because
they're now in more exciting
places.
Oh do towns.
Yeah.
It's like
(03:05):
somehow they've gotten bigger.
The ones that I'm seeing
or the one that I'm seeing,they're actually quite big.
And he's got vision.
Gigantic guppy head.
You know, what?
Did he turn into a different kind of fishor is still it up?
You know, it's still a guppy, right?
So is it in a different realmor back on Earth or.
(03:28):
Yeah, they're they're.
No, they'renot, they're they're somewhere in between.
Okay.
In between another realm.
And here. Right.
So they're they're they'rethey're still exploring.
Like, where do they actually want to go?
(03:50):
Okay. There are many options.
There.
And he's saying,
you know, we could actually.
Swim, swim down
or up the river of time.
(04:11):
And and actually to just decidewhere they want to go.
Okay.
Can they come backto a different kind of fish?
Yeah, they could.
And and they can come backand whatever they want to, they can choose
not to come back, and they could chooseto go somewhere else.
(04:31):
Did they choose to be somethingother than a fish?
Yeah. Okay.
And, what was their specialconnection with the water?
Well, interestingly enough,
(04:52):
she was and is a person
that has
a lot of.
Non-human
or animal source spirits around her
for some reason. Okay.
(05:13):
And it's been this way for a while.
So a while.
Meaning so, like, thousands of years.
Oh, okay.
So this is one of her attributes.
Yeah.
And so
(05:33):
they.
They meaning,
Assuming previous, previous it
animals or fish or guppies
that she had,they can come back if they choose to,
and be, you know,
new copies for her or not.
(05:55):
But they could they come back as,like another animal to be around her.
Yeah.
And are they still around heras part of those ones? Yes.
It just died. No.
Okay.
They they they call it decidingwhat they want to do.
Okay.
And,
But Devorah has all these, connections
to animal spirits around her.
(06:18):
Yeah.
And it's not large animal spirits.
It's kind of like small animals.
Like mice, a small animal.
Spirits,a small animals like guppies and mice and.
You know, cats and dogs.
Cats and dogs too.
But I mean,
obviously not big animals.
Well, it's not obvious, right?
(06:40):
So no giraffes, no lions.
Just. Okay.
Not even large dogs.
Okay.
And what are thesespirit animals do for the aura?
They, they want to be around her.
They like her energy.
(07:02):
Yeah.
It's like wherever she's in
her or her journey through hervarious lines.
Has taken her to,
you know, different places and
whoever
is covering her
does that because they actuallywant to go to those places too.
(07:24):
Okay.
Relates to. Travelers.
On the same journey. Okay.
And do they, they help her or dothey just hang out and travel with her?
Lot. Help her.
In what way?
Just, Like, by just by being with her.
They're helping her. Okay.
And she's helping them.
Yeah. Okay.
And this is, on a more, supernatural level?
(07:51):
Not necessarily.
She's not necessarily consciousof all the, you know, spirit guides around
here.
She's conscious to the effectto, to the extent of,
like how she was saying that,
you know, she thought the, the,the deceased guppies
were friendly with her when she put herface to the glass and moved it around.
(08:12):
You know. Okay.
So those guppies were traveling with heron this life.
Short period. Right? Okay.
So this is information that
maybe Devorah could tap into more being,you know, but.
That of,You know, a spiritual person herself.
Right. Okay.
(08:33):
I might hit the pause here for a second.
So, what about the new guppies
that are in the photo?
Well, it she sounds kind.
Of feels like, you know,they don't really know her at all.
(08:54):
And,
Okay. So what?
What are they saying?
They didn't appear just like.
Like the
deceased ones did.
But he's he's saying that.
(09:15):
How? They are.
They have to get a climatologist
to their surroundings
because.
They weren't.
They weren't originally guppiesor even fish to begin with.
Oh, what were they?
(09:36):
Can we find. Out?
They
were. Oh.
Similar.
Okay.
Some smallish
animal that would crawl on the ground.
(09:59):
By smallish, I mean, kind of like,
maybe like less than two inchesacross, like.
A millipede or, beetle or of some.
Kind,
I don't know. Could be.
Okay.
I am getting kind of,like, more insect like.
All right.
And again, it's like,
(10:21):
this is this is like an animal or two to
animal spiritsthat were with her previously.
Okay. They wanted to come back again.
They want to come back, butthey came as guppies because they wanted.
To experience life in the water. Okay.
And so they're.
Yeah, that's like okay.
(10:42):
They would seethe deceased guppies in the water,
and then they'd be wondering, like, what?
What's that like?
You know,
we know what water is. Right.
So they chose to be with her.
These two as well.
Yeah, they were okay.
They chose to be with herbecause they were with her originally,
(11:04):
but then they chose to come back
not only to be with her,but also to experience.
So, like, life in another four.
Okay.
So before when they were bugs, were they.
That.
Was that what theywere with her as bugs too?
Yeah.
Over here.
(11:24):
Some people kept cricketsand, Grasshoppers and things,
and they must have been in her housesomewhere because they were observing
the deceased guppies.
Oh, so they immediately diedand became guppies?
No, no no, no.
Were they timeless?
(11:45):
They're steppedinto their timeless format.
Well, okay.
They're not exactly samewhen they were observing the guppies.
Okay.
So, you know, they go.
But they could have been observing.
Not these guppies, but other
sounds like diver up.
(12:06):
Didn't
just have, like,these two sets of guppies.
Sounds like somebodythat would actually have,
you know, if she had fish,she would have had fish for many years.
Right.
And fish that were like, in her tankthat would
sort of be afraidwhen she came close to them.
She mentionedshe had some fish like that.
(12:27):
Those fish were.
Why were they afraid of her?
I thought this was a new one.
So we're afraid for the new guppies?
Well, I think the new copies
had not been friendly to her yet,but I think there was other fish
in the tank that weren't as responsiveas the guppies were.
She didn't just have two guppies.
(12:47):
She had two guppies that were friendlyand then other fish.
Okay.
Well, it just
they choose
kind of like what kind of relationshipthey are between themselves and with her.
Okay.
Yeah.
And it's just whatever they feel like.
(13:07):
Yeah.
But I mean, it'snot just whatever they feel like.
It's like,
they're with her for specific reasons.
Like to travelalong with her on her journey,
but not necessarily
to become so, like, bonded with her.
Okay,so all the fish chose to be with her?
(13:29):
Yes. Oh, yes they did.
But the two two of the guppieschose to bond with her.
Two of them? Yes. Okay.
And if Devora.
Could have been that they were actually
other animals that she'd had previously.
That were not fish.
(13:51):
Right. And not. Not insects.
Those two guppiescould have been the other animals.
Yeah. Okay.
In a previous life, like,maybe real pets, like cats or something.
Yeah.
It could be yes or no.
And these beings that come back as pets
(14:13):
of some kind.
You know, guppiesor cats or bugs or whatever.
You want to consider them.
They're just choosing to come back,
for different experiences.
Yeah, it's it's entirely their.
Choice, right?
So why would
I mean, other than the sake of variety?
(14:33):
Is there something they gain by, like,having a bunch of different experiences?
Or is it just like humans say.
Exactly like humans?
You know, I'm. I'm sure.
I mean, why to humans come back?
Well, why do we even askfor any different experiences?
Why do we have multiple different friends
(14:55):
or travel all over the world or.
Yeah.
Climba mountain and swim to the sea. Why?
And that was those same reasons.
Are the same reasons.
Animals do.
Or it's could be anything from why not to.
It sort of is when expandsyour consciousness.
Even the expansive consciousnessmay need to resolve issues like,
(15:16):
you know, they want to continue somethingthat's somehow ended.
Multiple reasons.
Okay.
So can Devora Howland, her skills
to get into more touch with her animal
spiritsthat are following her through her lives.
Oh, definitely. Okay.
(15:37):
Or should she just.
She should juststart talking to them. Okay.
And they will talk back.
Do the,
old guppies or the new guppies
or any of our animal spiritshave a message for tomorrow?
They're saying,
yeah, we love you.
(15:58):
That's sweet.
We love you.
And because.
You know,I mean, there's lots of these small beings
and basically these energies
kind of protect your tube.
Oh, they give her some protection.
(16:19):
Yeah. The sea.
Protect them as well.
Yeah.
But unknowingly.
Okay. You know, they like the phrase.
She doesn't knowthat they're protecting her.
And that she's protecting them.
And they've made a some kind of, sortof some kind of pact
or commitment to each other's wellnesswell-being. Yes.
(16:40):
I mean, this lasted
a long time.
Long, long, long, long time.
So divorced.And also been here many times.
Yes. Yeah.
Awesome.
All right. Diana. Thank you.
Thank you. To the guppies. Yes.
Thank you. Guppies.That was quite interesting.
It really was.
(17:00):
And and, you know, enjoy the,
you know, every moment of your travelsand whatever,
whatever else you intend to do hereand and in the future.
Right.
Yes. Guppies just want to have fun.
Right?
They're laughingbecause that tends to be the final,
(17:21):
final advice from every one of the things
we've in Venus we've interviewed,they just want to have fun.
Well, you know,I mean, having fun is actually
it's a positive energyand it's high vibrating it.
So it drives a lot of us.
It's a motivating motivator to.
Right.
(17:42):
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Welcome to Realm to
Realm for fun and enlighteningmultidimensional interviews.
Well. Hello, Diana.
Hello, Karin. How are you? Good.
How are you? I'm pretty good.
So today we're doing a short podcast
on one of our fans has written inand asked if we could talk to her.
Guppies.
She had a pair of guppiesthat were very playful,
(00:28):
and she could kind of,you know, move her face back and forth
and boys would follow her and now seemedlike really happy to see her.
And guppies don't live forever.And they passed.
And she's wondering what they're doing,where they went and what they're thinking.
And then she's gotten some new guppiesthat aren't
quite as attentiveand she's wondering about that as well.
(00:50):
So can we tap into her guppies for.
Yes, we will try. Okay, that'd be awesome.
Okay, so, She didn't name
the guppies, so we're just goingto have to call in divorced guppies.
All is guppyone Guppy two Guppy three before.
Okay, you see four guppies.
Okay.
Interestingly enough, a couple of minutesago, it was a guppy that appeared okay.
(01:16):
It's actually pretty big. Guppy.
There's more than a life size, right?
Well, more than life size.
Like 4in or 6in or like.
Well, size of. A like a foot locker.
Oh, okay. That's a big guppy.
Well, I mean, not really,
but somehow thisthis is must be one of the deceased ones.
Okay.
(01:36):
So, you know, he she they
they're kind of, like,just looking at me, like,
okay, you know, what do you want?
What do you want?
We just want to know what's. What's it?
Where'd it go?
What's it doing now?
Okay, so, Does it Miss Deborah?
(01:58):
A couple questions like that.
Yeah, right. So
I'm going to just say he's okay.
He is.
He is saying that,
You know, they him and his friend,
they decided to leave.
(02:21):
You know, they're they're nice.
Guppy. Guppy world
in D'ivoire's aquarium.
Did they get old?
They.
You know, like. Yeah.
I mean, they're they were.
They were old, according to Guppy lives.
(02:45):
And so their time was up,and they they just passed on.
But, you know,they both were okay with that.
And because
they're now in more exciting
places.
Oh do towns.
Yeah.
It's like
(03:05):
somehow they've gotten bigger.
The ones that I'm seeing
or the one that I'm seeing,they're actually quite big.
And he's got vision.
Gigantic guppy head.
You know, what?
Did he turn into a different kind of fishor is still it up?
You know, it's still a guppy, right?
So is it in a different realmor back on Earth or.
(03:28):
Yeah, they're they're.
No, they'renot, they're they're somewhere in between.
Okay.
In between another realm.
And here. Right.
So they're they're they'rethey're still exploring.
Like, where do they actually want to go?
(03:50):
Okay. There are many options.
There.
And he's saying,
you know, we could actually.
Swim, swim down
or up the river of time.
(04:11):
And and actually to just decidewhere they want to go.
Okay.
Can they come backto a different kind of fish?
Yeah, they could.
And and they can come backand whatever they want to, they can choose
not to come back, and they could chooseto go somewhere else.
(04:31):
Did they choose to be somethingother than a fish?
Yeah. Okay.
And, what was their specialconnection with the water?
Well, interestingly enough,
(04:52):
she was and is a person
that has
a lot of.
Non-human
or animal source spirits around her
for some reason. Okay.
(05:13):
And it's been this way for a while.
So a while.
Meaning so, like, thousands of years.
Oh, okay.
So this is one of her attributes.
Yeah.
And so
(05:33):
they.
They meaning,
Assuming previous, previous it
animals or fish or guppies
that she had,they can come back if they choose to,
and be, you know,
new copies for her or not.
(05:55):
But they could they come back as,like another animal to be around her.
Yeah.
And are they still around heras part of those ones? Yes.
It just died. No.
Okay.
They they they call it decidingwhat they want to do.
Okay.
And,
But Devorah has all these, connections
to animal spirits around her.
(06:18):
Yeah.
And it's not large animal spirits.
It's kind of like small animals.
Like mice, a small animal.
Spirits,a small animals like guppies and mice and.
You know, cats and dogs.
Cats and dogs too.
But I mean,
obviously not big animals.
Well, it's not obvious, right?
(06:40):
So no giraffes, no lions.
Just. Okay.
Not even large dogs.
Okay.
And what are thesespirit animals do for the aura?
They, they want to be around her.
They like her energy.
(07:02):
Yeah.
It's like wherever she's in
her or her journey through hervarious lines.
Has taken her to,
you know, different places and
whoever
is covering her
does that because they actuallywant to go to those places too.
(07:24):
Okay.
Relates to. Travelers.
On the same journey. Okay.
And do they, they help her or dothey just hang out and travel with her?
Lot. Help her.
In what way?
Just, Like, by just by being with her.
They're helping her. Okay.
And she's helping them.
Yeah. Okay.
And this is, on a more, supernatural level?
(07:51):
Not necessarily.
She's not necessarily consciousof all the, you know, spirit guides around
here.
She's conscious to the effectto, to the extent of,
like how she was saying that,
you know, she thought the, the,the deceased guppies
were friendly with her when she put herface to the glass and moved it around.
(08:12):
You know. Okay.
So those guppies were traveling with heron this life.
Short period. Right? Okay.
So this is information that
maybe Devorah could tap into more being,you know, but.
That of,You know, a spiritual person herself.
Right. Okay.
(08:33):
I might hit the pause here for a second.
So, what about the new guppies
that are in the photo?
Well, it she sounds kind.
Of feels like, you know,they don't really know her at all.
(08:54):
And,
Okay. So what?
What are they saying?
They didn't appear just like.
Like the
deceased ones did.
But he's he's saying that.
(09:15):
How? They are.
They have to get a climatologist
to their surroundings
because.
They weren't.
They weren't originally guppiesor even fish to begin with.
Oh, what were they?
(09:36):
Can we find. Out?
They
were. Oh.
Similar.
Okay.
Some smallish
animal that would crawl on the ground.
(09:59):
By smallish, I mean, kind of like,
maybe like less than two inchesacross, like.
A millipede or, beetle or of some.
Kind,
I don't know. Could be.
Okay.
I am getting kind of,like, more insect like.
All right.
And again, it's like,
(10:21):
this is this is like an animal or two to
animal spiritsthat were with her previously.
Okay. They wanted to come back again.
They want to come back, butthey came as guppies because they wanted.
To experience life in the water. Okay.
And so they're.
Yeah, that's like okay.
(10:42):
They would seethe deceased guppies in the water,
and then they'd be wondering, like, what?
What's that like?
You know,
we know what water is. Right.
So they chose to be with her.
These two as well.
Yeah, they were okay.
They chose to be with herbecause they were with her originally,
(11:04):
but then they chose to come back
not only to be with her,but also to experience.
So, like, life in another four.
Okay.
So before when they were bugs, were they.
That.
Was that what theywere with her as bugs too?
Yeah.
Over here.
(11:24):
Some people kept cricketsand, Grasshoppers and things,
and they must have been in her housesomewhere because they were observing
the deceased guppies.
Oh, so they immediately diedand became guppies?
No, no no, no.
Were they timeless?
(11:45):
They're steppedinto their timeless format.
Well, okay.
They're not exactly samewhen they were observing the guppies.
Okay.
So, you know, they go.
But they could have been observing.
Not these guppies, but other
sounds like diver up.
(12:06):
Didn't
just have, like,these two sets of guppies.
Sounds like somebodythat would actually have,
you know, if she had fish,she would have had fish for many years.
Right.
And fish that were like, in her tankthat would
sort of be afraidwhen she came close to them.
She mentionedshe had some fish like that.
(12:27):
Those fish were.
Why were they afraid of her?
I thought this was a new one.
So we're afraid for the new guppies?
Well, I think the new copies
had not been friendly to her yet,but I think there was other fish
in the tank that weren't as responsiveas the guppies were.
She didn't just have two guppies.
(12:47):
She had two guppies that were friendlyand then other fish.
Okay.
Well, it just
they choose
kind of like what kind of relationshipthey are between themselves and with her.
Okay.
Yeah.
And it's just whatever they feel like.
(13:07):
Yeah.
But I mean, it'snot just whatever they feel like.
It's like,
they're with her for specific reasons.
Like to travelalong with her on her journey,
but not necessarily
to become so, like, bonded with her.
Okay,so all the fish chose to be with her?
(13:29):
Yes. Oh, yes they did.
But the two two of the guppieschose to bond with her.
Two of them? Yes. Okay.
And if Devora.
Could have been that they were actually
other animals that she'd had previously.
That were not fish.
(13:51):
Right. And not. Not insects.
Those two guppiescould have been the other animals.
Yeah. Okay.
In a previous life, like,maybe real pets, like cats or something.
Yeah.
It could be yes or no.
And these beings that come back as pets
(14:13):
of some kind.
You know, guppiesor cats or bugs or whatever.
You want to consider them.
They're just choosing to come back,
for different experiences.
Yeah, it's it's entirely their.
Choice, right?
So why would
I mean, other than the sake of variety?
(14:33):
Is there something they gain by, like,having a bunch of different experiences?
Or is it just like humans say.
Exactly like humans?
You know, I'm. I'm sure.
I mean, why to humans come back?
Well, why do we even askfor any different experiences?
Why do we have multiple different friends
(14:55):
or travel all over the world or.
Yeah.
Climba mountain and swim to the sea. Why?
And that was those same reasons.
Are the same reasons.
Animals do.
Or it's could be anything from why not to.
It sort of is when expandsyour consciousness.
Even the expansive consciousnessmay need to resolve issues like,
(15:16):
you know, they want to continue somethingthat's somehow ended.
Multiple reasons.
Okay.
So can Devora Howland, her skills
to get into more touch with her animal
spiritsthat are following her through her lives.
Oh, definitely. Okay.
(15:37):
Or should she just.
She should juststart talking to them. Okay.
And they will talk back.
Do the,
old guppies or the new guppies
or any of our animal spiritshave a message for tomorrow?
They're saying,
yeah, we love you.
(15:58):
That's sweet.
We love you.
And because.
You know,I mean, there's lots of these small beings
and basically these energies
kind of protect your tube.
Oh, they give her some protection.
(16:19):
Yeah. The sea.
Protect them as well.
Yeah.
But unknowingly.
Okay. You know, they like the phrase.
She doesn't knowthat they're protecting her.
And that she's protecting them.
And they've made a some kind of, sortof some kind of pact
or commitment to each other's wellnesswell-being. Yes.
(16:40):
I mean, this lasted
a long time.
Long, long, long, long time.
So divorced.And also been here many times.
Yes. Yeah.
Awesome.
All right. Diana. Thank you.
Thank you. To the guppies. Yes.
Thank you. Guppies.That was quite interesting.
It really was.
(17:00):
And and, you know, enjoy the,
you know, every moment of your travelsand whatever,
whatever else you intend to do hereand and in the future.
Right.
Yes. Guppies just want to have fun.
Right?
They're laughingbecause that tends to be the final,
(17:21):
final advice from every one of the things
we've in Venus we've interviewed,they just want to have fun.
Well, you know,I mean, having fun is actually
it's a positive energyand it's high vibrating it.
So it drives a lot of us.
It's a motivating motivator to.
Right.
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