February 13, 2025 • 28 mins
This episode unfolds the intriguing connection between anime and Western fantasy narratives, exploring the potential for certain anime to be adapted into engaging literary works. We dive into specific examples like "Record of Grancrest War" and "Re:Creators," discussing their themes, world-building, and character development.
• Exploring the concept of anime as Western fantasy novels
• Insights into the anime "Record of Grancrest War"
• Discussion on themes of chaos and conflict in fantasy stories
• Character development as a crucial element in storytelling
• The philosophical implications of creator and creation in "Re:Creators"
• Engaging narrative reflections for aspiring fantasy authors
• Invitation to explore anime narratives further and bridge genres
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Intro: Visions – Adv3n7ur35, Ian Locke
Outro: Nakusita Kakera – Ian Post
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📰 Realm Rumors:
https://animehunch.com/no-game-no-life-creator-debunks-season-2-rumors-calls-them-baseless/
https://screenrant.com/naruto-anniversary-anime-episodes-pierrot-anime-japan-2025/
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Welcome to Realm Jumpers.
I'm Andrew and this is myco-host, jordan hey everyone.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
We're here to dive into the worlds of fantasy and
anime, bringing you epic storiesand unforgettable adventures.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
We'll be talking world building unforgettable
villains and everything thatmakes these genres legendary.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
So let's jump into the Realm.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
How you been, jordan, I'm good buddy.
How you doing, I'm doing good.
It's been another week.
Let's dive into Realm RumorsCurrent events for everybody.
That's what we're calling ourcurrent events.
Slash news section is realmrumors, just a quick little hit.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I see there's something about no game, no life
, which I love that anime, but Idon't think there was a second
season.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
I feel like yeah, there wasn't a second season,
but apparently somebody jumpedon twitter.
Uh, and I'm grabbing this fromanime hunch um, but apparently
somebody jumped on Twitter, andI'm grabbing this from Anime
Hunch.
But apparently somebody jumpedon Twitter and started throwing
out some fake news that therewas going to be a season two.
And then the old fake news yeah, the creator, the creator, he,
(01:18):
he got on there and he goes.
I've seen this enough times toknow what it says and I can't
even read English Clickbait.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
He's like you know what.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Enough.
Yeah, that's basically yeah,the TLDR is.
He said no, I'd love to do itbut that's not happening.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Is there a manga or light novel of this?
Or was it anime only I don'treally remember because I feel
like it was like 15 years ago.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
I don't know how long it was, but so there's 10.
There is a light novel and I'ma little conflicted about this
story, to be honest, becausethey go to the weird place with
the brother, sister, love and itjust yeah, I felt like that a
little bit watching it, althoughI do remember liking it I do
remember being like I don't likethat part of the story.
But so I read a couple of thebooks because you know the game
part of it, like when he's, whenthey're playing their games and
(02:08):
he's, you know, going throughall his logic um, that part of
it was super interesting.
Um, but the the brother sisterlove like I, I couldn't deal
with it and they push it yeah,like, yeah, they kind of push it
and on top of that, amazon justtotally zoinked them.
(02:29):
I mean, they just Amazon pulledit off of Kindle, pulled it off
of the Amazon shop, and so, yeah, I think several of the books I
had even got deleted off myphone, which isn't supposed to
happen, that's kind of serious.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
So there might be.
You have to look into that.
Maybe something happened withthe creator.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
If you look into the Amazon terms of service, they
can actually do that.
So just because, buyer beware.
Just because you pay forsomething on Amazon does not
mean it's yours forever as faras digital content.
That includes movies, by theway.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
That's why you want to be physical, right?
Yeah, right, exactly.
Get the physical copies.
They can't kick your door inyet, at least and steal your
your books.
But I see the other thing issomething about a naruto remake
of the original series.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Yeah, yes, um, I don't think it's a remake.
So in 2023 they were supposedto release some anniversary
episodes of naruto new drawnyeah, drawn like new stuff and
that didn't happen, for whateverreason, it got shelved.
So and I and again, I don'tknow how credible these rumors
(03:36):
are, but there's talk that atanime japan again, we talked
about this last week with um,with the other one um, they
think in May at Anime Japan thatthey might be announcing a new
series, not a reboot, a new, newNaruto series.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
I mean, look, there's so many places they could go,
but for the love of God, can yougive me just one season of
Naruto's dad just being a ninja?
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Yeah, that would be great.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Even just 13 episodes .
There's so much lore in thestory you could literally do
anything.
I just it'd be really cool to.
Yeah, I thought mr beast wasinvolved with this somehow.
I feel like I remember himsaying pay for it or something
weird.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
I don't remember I honestly don't know.
Uh, I honestly don't know.
It was a pretty slow anime newsweek, uh, so most of what I saw
was updates about what could becoming and episode reviews,
which I don't typically like tojump into.
I'm not going to read anepisode review.
I might read a season review,but I'm not reading an episode
by episode review.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Yeah, I don't have time for sure, well, I mean hey,
I'll watch a new Naruto orwhatever, just because it's a
great series, you know.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Sure, well, I mean hey I'll watch a new naruto,
whatever, just because it's agreat series.
You know why not?
Um, so let's jump into the maintopic of the night, which you
know our topic for tonight isand it's a little bit wordy, but
it's, it's an interestingconcept um anime that could work
as a western fantasy novel.
And you know a lot, a lot ofthese animes.
They either come from a mangaadaption or you know a light
(05:10):
novel adaptation.
But you know what is a Westernfantasy, right?
Think, like Wheel of Time,mistborn, anything, brandon
Sanderson.
So you know the criteria thatI'm going to talk about as far
as the anime that that I'm goingto bring up tonight.
You know what makes a good, uh,western fantasy.
(05:31):
So you know the key elements.
The key elements for what Ithink makes a good Western
fantasy is world building,character development, um,
conflict, uh, you know themesand morality, and then the
pacing, pacing structure.
It's kind of the same thing.
So the one I wanted tospotlight tonight is a record of
(05:55):
grand crest war Dope show.
Yeah, I really enjoyed it and,honestly, that was one of those
ones that I kind of sat down inNetflix one night and there was
nothing else to watch and Ilooked at it and I said this
looks interesting, let me watchan episode or two and see what
happens.
And then you know, at the endof the first episode I'm like,
oh no, I got to watch this, thisis good.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
It's the best when you run into it that way and you
can binge it.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
It sucks when you do that on the first episode and
then it's weekly, right, right?
I, I agree, I absolutely agree.
But if an overview for you know, those of our listeners that
have never heard of record ofgrand crest war, um, it's set in
a high fantasy world where, youknow, chaos basically ruins
everything.
Um, darkness, right, yeah, theycall it chaos, and it's not
just one thing, it's naturaldisasters, monsters, basically
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all the destructive forces thatyou can think of.
That's what they call chaos,and the premise of the show is,
in order to fight chaos, thenobles they wield these, these
magical crests on their handswhich look kind of cool.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Hey, it's a tattoo I'm in, I love, right, yeah,
exactly yeah, let's go thecrests, grant them power.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Um, so for me this, this was kind of like what
really drew me in, because I hadjust recently come off of
watching fate zero and fate staynight and I was like the crest
looks similar.
This is, this is going to becool, the mark or whatever.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
So the nobles?
You know, they wield themagical crests and that's what
grants them power.
They're supposed to helpmaintain order and push back
against chaos.
But you know, people are peopleand instead of working together
, they, you know, as humans do,they pick different factions and
then they spend more timefighting each other than they do
.
The chaos.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Well, there's a king, there's got to be a kingdom,
right I mean?
Speaker 1 (07:53):
you got to take over.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Right, that's how that works, I get it.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
So yeah, the main story follows Theo Cornaro.
I'm probably butchering thatname, theo Cornaro.
I'm probably butchering thatname, theo Cornaro.
I know they pronounced it inthe show and I just I wasn't
going back to watch it again tofigure out the exact
pronunciation.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
You're good, I think we'll be all right, that's the
green haired kid.
Right, I remember this one.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Yeah, and you know, yeah right, he's just a young
knight with big dreams.
You know he wants to.
He wants to bring word of theworld, order to the world, and
that's just his dream.
And I, I love a show like that.
You know where they.
You got an underdog and don'tget me wrong, the overpowered
main character shows, those canbe amazing as well, but when you
(08:37):
, when you have an underdog,that's not, you know, the top
dog, that's not the mostpowerful dude out there, like
from Jump Street, those showsjust kind of they tend to all
for me, you know, they alwaysmake a big impact.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yeah, it's like a shonen.
You know the classic story.
He's not that strong, but hedoes have some power.
He can grow.
He needs allies, you know we'veseen this type of thing before,
but it's different yeah takes.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
It takes naruto.
What 4 000 episodes to become,you know, the most, most
powerful ninja pretty much, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
This one's what you got 24 episodes in this season,
this show, I'm telling I thoughtit was like, honestly, I
thought it was in the 50s.
I thought it was like 56 orsomething that's a good run.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
I mean, yeah, pretty good.
No, it's a good run.
Um, so, theo's, it's prettygood, no, it's a good run.
So Theo's goal, you know it'sbring order to the world, unite
the nobles and get them to focuson, you know, the chaos instead
of politics.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Yeah, but that's the fun part, right, right.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Yeah, so yeah, and it's got the things that it
brings to the table.
The things that it brings tothe table.
For me, that would make it agreat fantasy.
Right is, you've got the worldbuilding.
Now it's not going to be asperfect as a light novel and I
(10:01):
wish I could read the lightnovel for Record of Grand Crest
War, but it was never translatedinto.
English.
There are fan translations.
Sacrilege, right, that'sterrible.
There are fan translations.
Sacrilege right, that'sterrible.
There are fan translations.
But the website that I went towas not awesome and I think I
gave up after a few paragraphsyeah so you know the world
building.
It has a decent amount of worldbuilding, right, you know they,
they, they don't flesh outeverything, but they do spend
some time fleshing out how theworld operates.
(10:22):
Um, you know the differentfactions, how that works, like
what people's motivations are.
So you know that's a little bitof the world building and a
little bit of the struggle thatthey're bringing forth there.
Additionally, the characterdevelopment.
Again, you know I said Theo'snot.
You know he's not the OP MC.
(10:42):
You know he didn't come inthere and he's not, you know,
the biggest badass on the scenefrom Jump Street.
He didn't get isekai'd intothis universe with some cheap
power and he's also, you know,he's got a moral streak to him,
right, it's not, it's not.
And there are a lot ofcharacters like that.
(11:25):
We do see a lot of anime wherethe characters you know where
they refuse to kill or somethinglike that Theo's thing.
It's just he's trying to bringorder.
Let's unite the world.
So I felt like it had goodpacing.
It had good overall themes, thethings they struggle with.
The conflict is obvious.
Let's fight the chaos, but wealso have to fight the politics.
And you know, unite the people.
Character development and notjust theo saluka.
Saluka, which is, you know, the, the main female character,
saluka kind of becomes.
She seems one-sided at first.
I will say that it probablytakes I don't know five or ten
episodes before you start tofeel like she's got any depth to
her.
But over the course of thatseries, you know, they flesh out
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her character as well.
So there is some depth there,you know.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
I do remember watching this and being totally
drawn in to like the siegewarfare part of it, where
they're like attacking castleswith armies and awesome magic
powers and it's like it's.
It was really different becauseit presents as the hero story
(12:12):
which it is, but then as hegathers allies, there's always,
like you said, politicalbackstabbings and allies that
they have to make and war thathappens and they let let you see
the big war to the big wars.
It's not just like lost over.
I do remember being like reallydrawn to that, yeah, in this
show.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Yeah, and I.
So, for me, with stuff likethis, I just can't help but
picture, you know, somebody likeRobert Jordan, wheel of time
having you know the idea of thisand having written this as a uh
, as a fantasy series and thatjust like man.
That gets me because, like this, that could be an epic fantasy
novel and that is one of the few.
(12:51):
There are plenty of anime thatI think could be a western
fantasy novel, but that's one ofthe few that really is like.
This could be a book series,not just a, not just a single
novel.
You know this, this could be,you know, a multi, multi-series
thing.
It's a completely separateworld.
So it is high fantasy, you know.
It's just they've got all themarkers, they've got a semi sort
(13:13):
of fleshed out magic system.
But I can you imagine, you know, if that, actually, if somebody
actually took that to paper andwas able to flesh out how that
magic actually works with I?
Speaker 2 (13:23):
remember it being really unique.
Yeah, because they're using thedarkness quote chaos, whatever,
right, it's like, it exists,it's, it's almost like mana it's
all around but it's it's badkind of.
But they can use it for goodbecause they can harness it to
use, you know, good magic tolike help their allies.
So I love that concept of thatshow that it's all around and it
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, like you said, naturaldisasters, monsters, all this
other stuff feeds it or it feedsthem, but then they can harness
it to do like these amazingabilities and try to fix their
world and stuff.
It was a really fun series.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
I do remember being drawn into those battles yeah, I
, I really enjoyed it and Iremember, uh, when I first sat
down to watch that I honestlydidn't think I was gonna enjoy
it.
Um, I, you know, I was justbored looking for something to
watch, but it ended up beingvery good.
Um, it's not as the animestands.
I wouldn't say it's like on mytop 10 list of best anime ever
(14:19):
produced, but that's fun.
Yeah, yeah, it's fun and I canpicture that being a novel form
and that's something that Iwould really want to read, you
know.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Yeah, I dude, I agree .
I feel like and again I mean Iguess you don't know because we
didn't get to, you never got toread the light.
Now maybe it's way more indepth and they just blitz
through.
You know, for the anime, maybeI don't know.
Hopefully someone will, um,take that upon themselves, or
can ai just translate at thispoint, like somebody do this uh,
(14:52):
he needs to see it, he needs toread it.
I love one day for us to dolike a recap on it and be like
actually it's expanded way morein the thing, you know, because
that's usually how it goes.
So I think you know, today youpicked one, I picked one type
thing.
Um, yeah, what?
am I it's one of the uh, yeah,it's one of the re series
creators and, um, yeah, there'sa bunch of different ones of the
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re series.
I've seen a lot of them, but thecreator one really stands out
because the, the story itself isso unique and it's almost a
reverse uh isekai or whateverkind of in a weird way.
So with re creators it's it'smodern day in our world and the
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heroes from the stories of manga, anime, movies and books show
up in our world and have alltheir powers they had in their
stories and there's a wholebattle thing going on.
So it's similar to like a FateStay thing in a weird way, that
there's these superpoweredbeings coming, but the actual
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authors of the creations are inthe story too.
So it's really crazy becauseyou know as a writer that would
be amazing to find, to see yourcharacter in real life, but then
all of the trauma that you putright, that's their real life.
They don't know.
That's the story to them.
That's their real life andthey're, like you, son of a
bitch what you did to me, youknow right.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yeah, yeah, wait, hold on.
This would be like uh luffyshows up in this world and then
go comes through as well bro,this would be like I'm my.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
My characters would kill me if they'd be like why
did you do this to me?
You piece of garbage, you knowright?
so it's a really interesting.
Now, interestingly enough, it'sanime.
Only there is a manga, but itwas made after the anime, so
this was the only anime storywhich is, you know, every now
and then you find good ones ofthose, um, you know, but as a
writer, I again that out of thebox story that these, that that
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these creators make, is justcrazy.
Like you know, as a writer andyou're, you're, I know you're
gonna be a writer soon.
So stop, imagine if yourcharacter all of a sudden showed
up on your doorstep and that'swhat this is and the the
background of it is.
There's multiple differentseries.
So the one girl, um, the main,well, the hero is this kid, soda
(17:15):
, who he's?
He's got like passion forwriting stories.
He's at a convention and all ofa sudden his favorite anime
character is there and she's inher mech and she's fighting in
real life in the middle of thecity, this other thing, and he's
like, holy shit, this is likethis is really happening.
So you know, it's cool for hisperspective because it would be
like, you know, that's your endto the story.
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But the main character, girlhero, she, you know, her author,
her mangaka, is in the storytoo.
So eventually she meets him andit's like, it's very like fate
stay where.
It's almost like they're boundtogether the creator and the
creation in the story to, likeyou know, solve what's going on.
And she hates him because herwhole life has been hell, trauma
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after trauma.
It's like a war future typestory with mechs and like all
her family died.
Like it's like terrible shit,man.
And this girl meets the creatorand she's like you think this
is like a story to you, likeit's a joke, you know, like my
parents died in front of me, youknow, like all that kind of
stuff, and he has to confrontthis whole like oh, I was just
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writing a cool story and it'slike to her, it's real.
So it kind of what you'retalking about in the beginning
here, about world building andcharacter development.
It's like stakes.
It's like I made you up and Iruined your life and you were
real and I didn't really knowthat you, you know like I ruined
your life to sell a story tosell a book like what do you
mean?
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so the really cool thing, though, is that the antagonist of the
story, her creator, is liketerminally ill and dying.
So she's full of hate and justrage and just like pain, because
she's young, she's like 20 orshe's super young and she's
dying of this.
You know she's dying, so she'svery mad at the world, right,
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because she's like this isn'tfair.
So her character is the onethat is trying to destroy the
story, the world, because she'slike my creator hates the world,
so I'm gonna destroy the world.
So it's it's super interestingstory where it kind of sets up
in a way like a battle of ofstories and in concepts and just
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like you know the herocharacters.
They live through all thisterrible stuff in their stories
and they can survive and theymade it through, and some of
them think they can do it in thereal world.
Versus this, this, you know,there's like a good and a bad
side, or whatever, um, and theysome of them die like they
didn't pull, they don't haveplot armor, so they die right,
okay, and you're just like holyshit, like it's great.
(19:52):
It's just a really cool conceptand if, if you know anyone
who's a creator anyway, I,especially a writer or an artist
.
Imagine if your, your characterwas, like, showed up in real
life and has all the abilitiesand all the flaws and all the
hate and all the anger that youwrote them with for your story
and they, you know, yeah, itwould be insane.
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So as a writer, this is like asuper I swear.
It was like it punched me inthe face because I'm like, wow,
this is crazy.
And then I actually felt badabout my own characters.
That I've done and stories I'vedone, because I'm like man,
I've put them through Sure, andI hope I never have to meet them
.
But you know the morality andthe theme thing.
You know it's like ourentertainment.
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But is that, you know?
Is that out there, that reality, that person's living, and
you're just writing it down as astory?
You, out there, that reality,that person's living, and you're
just writing it down as a story.
You know all those weird littlequestions that pop up.
But as a writer or a spyingwriter, anyone it'll be really
cool if you check it out,because it it may, you know,
maybe take it a little easier onsome of your.
Uh, yeah, it's fun.
(20:56):
But if you haven't seen.
Check it out, man.
It's a.
It's a really fun story.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
No, honestly I, when you, when I first saw your notes
for this, I I thought, Ithought you know, I think I
might have seen this and I justdon't remember it.
But now we're talking about it.
I I don't think I've seen thisand I'm gonna have to check it
out yeah, dude, I mean you lovefate stay.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
So I think it's actually drawn by one of the
studios that did one of them.
So the art is really good.
But um, so I just want to.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
You know, basically it's the novel form of gladiator
, and also the pin is mightierthan the sword oh there you go,
there we go.
Yeah, I don't know, I think itis yeah, but it's.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
What's so weird about it is like the hero characters
think that they're right becausethey're hero characters, but
the quote villain characters arelike we're not wrong, you know,
like in their mind they'redoing what's right.
So it's.
It does set up that whole umgroup verse, group thing, you
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know, and then, if I remembercorrectly, which has been a
while, I think the writer canlike power them up or something.
I think there's something likethat where they can add to their
story if they publish somethingabout them and they'll get a
new ability, like in the battle.
So yeah, dude, it's, it's adope story.
It's a really weird,interesting take right into into
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stuff you know what you saidthere about?
Speaker 1 (22:21):
uh, your characters would think you're just a bag of
dicks they kill me, they shakeme up, man yeah no, it makes me
laugh because I I've written acouple of character sheets,
obviously for this book.
That's probably never going toget written.
It's getting written.
You will write it, we'll see.
But you know the charactersheets I've got.
I've got one character that Iwould absolutely want to meet,
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even through the tragedy, andanother character that I'm like
I'm going to go.
I'm going to go now, before hegets here.
They find you.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Yeah, before this guy finds me, because he's gonna be
pissed and even like, if Iremember, like the main guy who
wrote the, the main herocharacter like his, he was kind
of getting like writer's block alittle bit about the where the
story's gonna go, and then thisignite, you know, meeting her
and she's fully his character,like all the belief I can do it,
you know everything, and it'sjust like, oh, wow, like, like
(23:16):
it reignited his, his, his, hisdrive to create.
So it was.
It's a really cool story.
I don't, I don't remember theending.
I don't.
I'm sure it has a good, youknow, whatever ending could
ending, hopefully.
But I just remember being sotorn because you're like you
can't really blame the quote badguys Cause why wouldn't they be
(23:36):
angry and want to destroy theworld?
That ruined their world intheir mind, like to them, like
your world made this as a joke.
I'm going to destroy your world, so you like it, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
So you know, outside of, outside of the joker, you
know those are the best bad guys.
Uh, they believe they're right.
You know it's.
You know the moral authority,like heroes, aren't the only
people with a moral authority.
You know, the bad guy, the guyyou're trying to kill, is always
going to think that he's in theright and you're in the wrong,
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no matter what he's done.
You know it's always justified.
So, you know, outside ofcharacters like the Joker, who
just, you know, to quote MichaelCaine, you, you know, just want
to watch the world burn.
Yeah, most villains believethat they're right, you know
they.
They believe that they have thehigh ground, that they're the
moral authority.
(24:24):
They just don't.
I was going to say they don'thave qualms about killing, they
just have a different viewpointon how to get to their moral
authority, or even they justifyit too right.
You know what?
Yeah, it's, it's a differentviewpoint so it to get to their
moral authority, or even theyjustify it too, right, you know
what?
Yeah, it's, it's a differentviewpoint, so it's justified.
You know they justify thatthrough through their actions,
through their viewpoint.
It's either going to besomething like the you know the
end, um, and justifies the means, or it's going to be something
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like you know, walk a mile in myshoes because you know.
See it from my point of view.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Yeah, I'm very and that's, you know, a good um
anti-hero rant too, actually,because their whole thing is
they're heroes, but that theydon't really want to be heroes
and they're trying to do.
You know, punishers a reallygood example spawns the other
one, right, they're like, okay,you can call us a hero, but I
don't really care about that,I'm doing what I want to do.
You know way more about thecomics than I do.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
I could only.
I could only think of joke.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Well, joker, yeah, he's just straight Wants to just
burn the whole damn thing downand watch it.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Right.
I seriously doubt the Jokerever thought about whether or
not he's right.
It's not about being right withthe Joker.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
It's fun.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
That want to do.
This is the fun thing that Iwant to do.
Yeah, jerker's great.
He's great for that, for sure.
So, um, what platform is thisseries on?
Because, honestly, I again,like I said, we're talking about
it and now I want to watch itand I don't, right, I don't know
where.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Um, let's see I know I think I watch it.
I think I watched on crunchy.
Hold on, I'll do a quick look,real quick Streaming, because
it's not fair to leave ourlisteners here stranded if they
want to see it.
Amazon Prime people are saying,nice, we'll find it, let's
Google it, we'll find it.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Yeah.
So yeah, that's it for ourtopics tonight.
I really hope that everybody,if you haven't already seen
these two shows, you know, Iknow I'm definitely going to
check out.
You're just a fan of the genreor not?
The genre, you know, the, themedium, you know it's a great
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show to watch.
Yes, fun.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
The the action is is brutal in that in grandcast I
remember people getting cut inhalf.
Yeah, I remember the Valkyrie.
Sorry, she was awesome, theValkyrie character.
Oh God, what is her name?
Purple hair, got the war markson her face.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Where's the Thor helmet?
Yeah, I know her name, aisha.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
There you go.
I knew if I put you on the spotyou'd remember.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Yeah, I was going to say I don't know what I was
going to say, but yeah, it'sAisha, which I thought it was
Aisha until I was.
You know, listen to the uh, thedub.
Yeah, I listened to the dub andI'm like oh, no, it's Aisha.
Okay, awesome, yeah.
Well, that's it for tonight'sepisode.
So you know, we just want tosay thanks for jumping under the
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Uh, be far.
Be sure to follow realm jumperswherever you get your podcasts
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Speaker 2 (27:38):
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Leave us a review on yourpodcast platform and, if you
can't think of anything to say,tell us about your favorite
anime.
See you in the next round.
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Thank you.
Welcome to Realm Jumpers.
I'm Andrew and this is myco-host, jordan hey everyone.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
We're here to dive into the worlds of fantasy and
anime, bringing you epic storiesand unforgettable adventures.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
We'll be talking world building unforgettable
villains and everything thatmakes these genres legendary.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
So let's jump into the Realm.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
How you been, jordan, I'm good buddy.
How you doing, I'm doing good.
It's been another week.
Let's dive into Realm RumorsCurrent events for everybody.
That's what we're calling ourcurrent events.
Slash news section is realmrumors, just a quick little hit.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I see there's something about no game, no life
, which I love that anime, but Idon't think there was a second
season.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
I feel like yeah, there wasn't a second season,
but apparently somebody jumpedon twitter.
Uh, and I'm grabbing this fromanime hunch um, but apparently
somebody jumped on Twitter, andI'm grabbing this from Anime
Hunch.
But apparently somebody jumpedon Twitter and started throwing
out some fake news that therewas going to be a season two.
And then the old fake news yeah, the creator, the creator, he,
(01:18):
he got on there and he goes.
I've seen this enough times toknow what it says and I can't
even read English Clickbait.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
He's like you know what.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Enough.
Yeah, that's basically yeah,the TLDR is.
He said no, I'd love to do itbut that's not happening.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Is there a manga or light novel of this?
Or was it anime only I don'treally remember because I feel
like it was like 15 years ago.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
I don't know how long it was, but so there's 10.
There is a light novel and I'ma little conflicted about this
story, to be honest, becausethey go to the weird place with
the brother, sister, love and itjust yeah, I felt like that a
little bit watching it, althoughI do remember liking it I do
remember being like I don't likethat part of the story.
But so I read a couple of thebooks because you know the game
part of it, like when he's, whenthey're playing their games and
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he's, you know, going throughall his logic um, that part of
it was super interesting.
Um, but the the brother sisterlove like I, I couldn't deal
with it and they push it yeah,like, yeah, they kind of push it
and on top of that, amazon justtotally zoinked them.
(02:29):
I mean, they just Amazon pulledit off of Kindle, pulled it off
of the Amazon shop, and so, yeah, I think several of the books I
had even got deleted off myphone, which isn't supposed to
happen, that's kind of serious.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
So there might be.
You have to look into that.
Maybe something happened withthe creator.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
If you look into the Amazon terms of service, they
can actually do that.
So just because, buyer beware.
Just because you pay forsomething on Amazon does not
mean it's yours forever as faras digital content.
That includes movies, by theway.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
That's why you want to be physical, right?
Yeah, right, exactly.
Get the physical copies.
They can't kick your door inyet, at least and steal your
your books.
But I see the other thing issomething about a naruto remake
of the original series.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Yeah, yes, um, I don't think it's a remake.
So in 2023 they were supposedto release some anniversary
episodes of naruto new drawnyeah, drawn like new stuff and
that didn't happen, for whateverreason, it got shelved.
So and I and again, I don'tknow how credible these rumors
(03:36):
are, but there's talk that atanime japan again, we talked
about this last week with um,with the other one um, they
think in May at Anime Japan thatthey might be announcing a new
series, not a reboot, a new, newNaruto series.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
I mean, look, there's so many places they could go,
but for the love of God, can yougive me just one season of
Naruto's dad just being a ninja?
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Yeah, that would be great.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Even just 13 episodes .
There's so much lore in thestory you could literally do
anything.
I just it'd be really cool to.
Yeah, I thought mr beast wasinvolved with this somehow.
I feel like I remember himsaying pay for it or something
weird.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
I don't remember I honestly don't know.
Uh, I honestly don't know.
It was a pretty slow anime newsweek, uh, so most of what I saw
was updates about what could becoming and episode reviews,
which I don't typically like tojump into.
I'm not going to read anepisode review.
I might read a season review,but I'm not reading an episode
by episode review.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Yeah, I don't have time for sure, well, I mean hey,
I'll watch a new Naruto orwhatever, just because it's a
great series, you know.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Sure, well, I mean hey I'll watch a new naruto,
whatever, just because it's agreat series.
You know why not?
Um, so let's jump into the maintopic of the night, which you
know our topic for tonight isand it's a little bit wordy, but
it's, it's an interestingconcept um anime that could work
as a western fantasy novel.
And you know a lot, a lot ofthese animes.
They either come from a mangaadaption or you know a light
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novel adaptation.
But you know what is a Westernfantasy, right?
Think, like Wheel of Time,mistborn, anything, brandon
Sanderson.
So you know the criteria thatI'm going to talk about as far
as the anime that that I'm goingto bring up tonight.
You know what makes a good, uh,western fantasy.
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So you know the key elements.
The key elements for what Ithink makes a good Western
fantasy is world building,character development, um,
conflict, uh, you know themesand morality, and then the
pacing, pacing structure.
It's kind of the same thing.
So the one I wanted tospotlight tonight is a record of
(05:55):
grand crest war Dope show.
Yeah, I really enjoyed it and,honestly, that was one of those
ones that I kind of sat down inNetflix one night and there was
nothing else to watch and Ilooked at it and I said this
looks interesting, let me watchan episode or two and see what
happens.
And then you know, at the endof the first episode I'm like,
oh no, I got to watch this, thisis good.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
It's the best when you run into it that way and you
can binge it.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
It sucks when you do that on the first episode and
then it's weekly, right, right?
I, I agree, I absolutely agree.
But if an overview for you know, those of our listeners that
have never heard of record ofgrand crest war, um, it's set in
a high fantasy world where, youknow, chaos basically ruins
everything.
Um, darkness, right, yeah, theycall it chaos, and it's not
just one thing, it's naturaldisasters, monsters, basically
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all the destructive forces thatyou can think of.
That's what they call chaos,and the premise of the show is,
in order to fight chaos, thenobles they wield these, these
magical crests on their handswhich look kind of cool.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Hey, it's a tattoo I'm in, I love, right, yeah,
exactly yeah, let's go thecrests, grant them power.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Um, so for me this, this was kind of like what
really drew me in, because I hadjust recently come off of
watching fate zero and fate staynight and I was like the crest
looks similar.
This is, this is going to becool, the mark or whatever.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
So the nobles?
You know, they wield themagical crests and that's what
grants them power.
They're supposed to helpmaintain order and push back
against chaos.
But you know, people are peopleand instead of working together
, they, you know, as humans do,they pick different factions and
then they spend more timefighting each other than they do
.
The chaos.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Well, there's a king, there's got to be a kingdom,
right I mean?
Speaker 1 (07:53):
you got to take over.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Right, that's how that works, I get it.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
So yeah, the main story follows Theo Cornaro.
I'm probably butchering thatname, theo Cornaro.
I'm probably butchering thatname, theo Cornaro.
I know they pronounced it inthe show and I just I wasn't
going back to watch it again tofigure out the exact
pronunciation.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
You're good, I think we'll be all right, that's the
green haired kid.
Right, I remember this one.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Yeah, and you know, yeah right, he's just a young
knight with big dreams.
You know he wants to.
He wants to bring word of theworld, order to the world, and
that's just his dream.
And I, I love a show like that.
You know where they.
You got an underdog and don'tget me wrong, the overpowered
main character shows, those canbe amazing as well, but when you
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, when you have an underdog,that's not, you know, the top
dog, that's not the mostpowerful dude out there, like
from Jump Street, those showsjust kind of they tend to all
for me, you know, they alwaysmake a big impact.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yeah, it's like a shonen.
You know the classic story.
He's not that strong, but hedoes have some power.
He can grow.
He needs allies, you know we'veseen this type of thing before,
but it's different yeah takes.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
It takes naruto.
What 4 000 episodes to become,you know, the most, most
powerful ninja pretty much, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
This one's what you got 24 episodes in this season,
this show, I'm telling I thoughtit was like, honestly, I
thought it was in the 50s.
I thought it was like 56 orsomething that's a good run.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
I mean, yeah, pretty good.
No, it's a good run.
Um, so, theo's, it's prettygood, no, it's a good run.
So Theo's goal, you know it'sbring order to the world, unite
the nobles and get them to focuson, you know, the chaos instead
of politics.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Yeah, but that's the fun part, right, right.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Yeah, so yeah, and it's got the things that it
brings to the table.
The things that it brings tothe table.
For me, that would make it agreat fantasy.
Right is, you've got the worldbuilding.
Now it's not going to be asperfect as a light novel and I
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wish I could read the lightnovel for Record of Grand Crest
War, but it was never translatedinto.
English.
There are fan translations.
Sacrilege, right, that'sterrible.
There are fan translations.
Sacrilege right, that'sterrible.
There are fan translations.
But the website that I went towas not awesome and I think I
gave up after a few paragraphsyeah so you know the world
building.
It has a decent amount of worldbuilding, right, you know they,
they, they don't flesh outeverything, but they do spend
some time fleshing out how theworld operates.
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Um, you know the differentfactions, how that works, like
what people's motivations are.
So you know that's a little bitof the world building and a
little bit of the struggle thatthey're bringing forth there.
Additionally, the characterdevelopment.
Again, you know I said Theo'snot.
You know he's not the OP MC.
(10:42):
You know he didn't come inthere and he's not, you know,
the biggest badass on the scenefrom Jump Street.
He didn't get isekai'd intothis universe with some cheap
power and he's also, you know,he's got a moral streak to him,
right, it's not, it's not.
And there are a lot ofcharacters like that.
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We do see a lot of anime wherethe characters you know where
they refuse to kill or somethinglike that Theo's thing.
It's just he's trying to bringorder.
Let's unite the world.
So I felt like it had goodpacing.
It had good overall themes, thethings they struggle with.
The conflict is obvious.
Let's fight the chaos, but wealso have to fight the politics.
And you know, unite the people.
Character development and notjust theo saluka.
Saluka, which is, you know, the, the main female character,
saluka kind of becomes.
She seems one-sided at first.
I will say that it probablytakes I don't know five or ten
episodes before you start tofeel like she's got any depth to
her.
But over the course of thatseries, you know, they flesh out
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her character as well.
So there is some depth there,you know.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
I do remember watching this and being totally
drawn in to like the siegewarfare part of it, where
they're like attacking castleswith armies and awesome magic
powers and it's like it's.
It was really different becauseit presents as the hero story
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which it is, but then as hegathers allies, there's always,
like you said, politicalbackstabbings and allies that
they have to make and war thathappens and they let let you see
the big war to the big wars.
It's not just like lost over.
I do remember being like reallydrawn to that, yeah, in this
show.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Yeah, and I.
So, for me, with stuff likethis, I just can't help but
picture, you know, somebody likeRobert Jordan, wheel of time
having you know the idea of thisand having written this as a uh
, as a fantasy series and thatjust like man.
That gets me because, like this, that could be an epic fantasy
novel and that is one of the few.
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There are plenty of anime thatI think could be a western
fantasy novel, but that's one ofthe few that really is like.
This could be a book series,not just a, not just a single
novel.
You know this, this could be,you know, a multi, multi-series
thing.
It's a completely separateworld.
So it is high fantasy, you know.
It's just they've got all themarkers, they've got a semi sort
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of fleshed out magic system.
But I can you imagine, you know, if that, actually, if somebody
actually took that to paper andwas able to flesh out how that
magic actually works with I?
Speaker 2 (13:23):
remember it being really unique.
Yeah, because they're using thedarkness quote chaos, whatever,
right, it's like, it exists,it's, it's almost like mana it's
all around but it's it's badkind of.
But they can use it for goodbecause they can harness it to
use, you know, good magic tolike help their allies.
So I love that concept of thatshow that it's all around and it
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, like you said, naturaldisasters, monsters, all this
other stuff feeds it or it feedsthem, but then they can harness
it to do like these amazingabilities and try to fix their
world and stuff.
It was a really fun series.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
I do remember being drawn into those battles yeah, I
, I really enjoyed it and Iremember, uh, when I first sat
down to watch that I honestlydidn't think I was gonna enjoy
it.
Um, I, you know, I was justbored looking for something to
watch, but it ended up beingvery good.
Um, it's not as the animestands.
I wouldn't say it's like on mytop 10 list of best anime ever
(14:19):
produced, but that's fun.
Yeah, yeah, it's fun and I canpicture that being a novel form
and that's something that Iwould really want to read, you
know.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Yeah, I dude, I agree .
I feel like and again I mean Iguess you don't know because we
didn't get to, you never got toread the light.
Now maybe it's way more indepth and they just blitz
through.
You know, for the anime, maybeI don't know.
Hopefully someone will, um,take that upon themselves, or
can ai just translate at thispoint, like somebody do this uh,
(14:52):
he needs to see it, he needs toread it.
I love one day for us to dolike a recap on it and be like
actually it's expanded way morein the thing, you know, because
that's usually how it goes.
So I think you know, today youpicked one, I picked one type
thing.
Um, yeah, what?
am I it's one of the uh, yeah,it's one of the re series
creators and, um, yeah, there'sa bunch of different ones of the
(15:14):
re series.
I've seen a lot of them, but thecreator one really stands out
because the, the story itself isso unique and it's almost a
reverse uh isekai or whateverkind of in a weird way.
So with re creators it's it'smodern day in our world and the
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heroes from the stories of manga, anime, movies and books show
up in our world and have alltheir powers they had in their
stories and there's a wholebattle thing going on.
So it's similar to like a FateStay thing in a weird way, that
there's these superpoweredbeings coming, but the actual
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authors of the creations are inthe story too.
So it's really crazy becauseyou know as a writer that would
be amazing to find, to see yourcharacter in real life, but then
all of the trauma that you putright, that's their real life.
They don't know.
That's the story to them.
That's their real life andthey're, like you, son of a
bitch what you did to me, youknow right.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yeah, yeah, wait, hold on.
This would be like uh luffyshows up in this world and then
go comes through as well bro,this would be like I'm my.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
My characters would kill me if they'd be like why
did you do this to me?
You piece of garbage, you knowright?
so it's a really interesting.
Now, interestingly enough, it'sanime.
Only there is a manga, but itwas made after the anime, so
this was the only anime storywhich is, you know, every now
and then you find good ones ofthose, um, you know, but as a
writer, I again that out of thebox story that these, that that
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these creators make, is justcrazy.
Like you know, as a writer andyou're, you're, I know you're
gonna be a writer soon.
So stop, imagine if yourcharacter all of a sudden showed
up on your doorstep and that'swhat this is and the the
background of it is.
There's multiple differentseries.
So the one girl, um, the main,well, the hero is this kid, soda
(17:15):
, who he's?
He's got like passion forwriting stories.
He's at a convention and all ofa sudden his favorite anime
character is there and she's inher mech and she's fighting in
real life in the middle of thecity, this other thing, and he's
like, holy shit, this is likethis is really happening.
So you know, it's cool for hisperspective because it would be
like, you know, that's your endto the story.
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But the main character, girlhero, she, you know, her author,
her mangaka, is in the storytoo.
So eventually she meets him andit's like, it's very like fate
stay where.
It's almost like they're boundtogether the creator and the
creation in the story to, likeyou know, solve what's going on.
And she hates him because herwhole life has been hell, trauma
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after trauma.
It's like a war future typestory with mechs and like all
her family died.
Like it's like terrible shit,man.
And this girl meets the creatorand she's like you think this
is like a story to you, likeit's a joke, you know, like my
parents died in front of me, youknow, like all that kind of
stuff, and he has to confrontthis whole like oh, I was just
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writing a cool story and it'slike to her, it's real.
So it kind of what you'retalking about in the beginning
here, about world building andcharacter development.
It's like stakes.
It's like I made you up and Iruined your life and you were
real and I didn't really knowthat you, you know like I ruined
your life to sell a story tosell a book like what do you
mean?
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so the really cool thing, though, is that the antagonist of the
story, her creator, is liketerminally ill and dying.
So she's full of hate and justrage and just like pain, because
she's young, she's like 20 orshe's super young and she's
dying of this.
You know she's dying, so she'svery mad at the world, right,
(19:05):
because she's like this isn'tfair.
So her character is the onethat is trying to destroy the
story, the world, because she'slike my creator hates the world,
so I'm gonna destroy the world.
So it's it's super interestingstory where it kind of sets up
in a way like a battle of ofstories and in concepts and just
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like you know the herocharacters.
They live through all thisterrible stuff in their stories
and they can survive and theymade it through, and some of
them think they can do it in thereal world.
Versus this, this, you know,there's like a good and a bad
side, or whatever, um, and theysome of them die like they
didn't pull, they don't haveplot armor, so they die right,
okay, and you're just like holyshit, like it's great.
(19:52):
It's just a really cool conceptand if, if you know anyone
who's a creator anyway, I,especially a writer or an artist
.
Imagine if your, your characterwas, like, showed up in real
life and has all the abilitiesand all the flaws and all the
hate and all the anger that youwrote them with for your story
and they, you know, yeah, itwould be insane.
(20:12):
So as a writer, this is like asuper I swear.
It was like it punched me inthe face because I'm like, wow,
this is crazy.
And then I actually felt badabout my own characters.
That I've done and stories I'vedone, because I'm like man,
I've put them through Sure, andI hope I never have to meet them
.
But you know the morality andthe theme thing.
You know it's like ourentertainment.
(20:33):
But is that, you know?
Is that out there, that reality, that person's living, and
you're just writing it down as astory?
You, out there, that reality,that person's living, and you're
just writing it down as a story.
You know all those weird littlequestions that pop up.
But as a writer or a spyingwriter, anyone it'll be really
cool if you check it out,because it it may, you know,
maybe take it a little easier onsome of your.
Uh, yeah, it's fun.
(20:56):
But if you haven't seen.
Check it out, man.
It's a.
It's a really fun story.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
No, honestly I, when you, when I first saw your notes
for this, I I thought, Ithought you know, I think I
might have seen this and I justdon't remember it.
But now we're talking about it.
I I don't think I've seen thisand I'm gonna have to check it
out yeah, dude, I mean you lovefate stay.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
So I think it's actually drawn by one of the
studios that did one of them.
So the art is really good.
But um, so I just want to.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
You know, basically it's the novel form of gladiator
, and also the pin is mightierthan the sword oh there you go,
there we go.
Yeah, I don't know, I think itis yeah, but it's.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
What's so weird about it is like the hero characters
think that they're right becausethey're hero characters, but
the quote villain characters arelike we're not wrong, you know,
like in their mind they'redoing what's right.
So it's.
It does set up that whole umgroup verse, group thing, you
(21:58):
know, and then, if I remembercorrectly, which has been a
while, I think the writer canlike power them up or something.
I think there's something likethat where they can add to their
story if they publish somethingabout them and they'll get a
new ability, like in the battle.
So yeah, dude, it's, it's adope story.
It's a really weird,interesting take right into into
(22:19):
stuff you know what you saidthere about?
Speaker 1 (22:21):
uh, your characters would think you're just a bag of
dicks they kill me, they shakeme up, man yeah no, it makes me
laugh because I I've written acouple of character sheets,
obviously for this book.
That's probably never going toget written.
It's getting written.
You will write it, we'll see.
But you know the charactersheets I've got.
I've got one character that Iwould absolutely want to meet,
(22:43):
even through the tragedy, andanother character that I'm like
I'm going to go.
I'm going to go now, before hegets here.
They find you.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Yeah, before this guy finds me, because he's gonna be
pissed and even like, if Iremember, like the main guy who
wrote the, the main herocharacter like his, he was kind
of getting like writer's block alittle bit about the where the
story's gonna go, and then thisignite, you know, meeting her
and she's fully his character,like all the belief I can do it,
you know everything, and it'sjust like, oh, wow, like, like
(23:16):
it reignited his, his, his, hisdrive to create.
So it was.
It's a really cool story.
I don't, I don't remember theending.
I don't.
I'm sure it has a good, youknow, whatever ending could
ending, hopefully.
But I just remember being sotorn because you're like you
can't really blame the quote badguys Cause why wouldn't they be
(23:36):
angry and want to destroy theworld?
That ruined their world intheir mind, like to them, like
your world made this as a joke.
I'm going to destroy your world, so you like it, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
So you know, outside of, outside of the joker, you
know those are the best bad guys.
Uh, they believe they're right.
You know it's.
You know the moral authority,like heroes, aren't the only
people with a moral authority.
You know, the bad guy, the guyyou're trying to kill, is always
going to think that he's in theright and you're in the wrong,
(24:04):
no matter what he's done.
You know it's always justified.
So, you know, outside ofcharacters like the Joker, who
just, you know, to quote MichaelCaine, you, you know, just want
to watch the world burn.
Yeah, most villains believethat they're right, you know
they.
They believe that they have thehigh ground, that they're the
moral authority.
(24:24):
They just don't.
I was going to say they don'thave qualms about killing, they
just have a different viewpointon how to get to their moral
authority, or even they justifyit too right.
You know what?
Yeah, it's, it's a differentviewpoint so it to get to their
moral authority, or even theyjustify it too, right, you know
what?
Yeah, it's, it's a differentviewpoint, so it's justified.
You know they justify thatthrough through their actions,
through their viewpoint.
It's either going to besomething like the you know the
end, um, and justifies the means, or it's going to be something
(24:47):
like you know, walk a mile in myshoes because you know.
See it from my point of view.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Yeah, I'm very and that's, you know, a good um
anti-hero rant too, actually,because their whole thing is
they're heroes, but that theydon't really want to be heroes
and they're trying to do.
You know, punishers a reallygood example spawns the other
one, right, they're like, okay,you can call us a hero, but I
don't really care about that,I'm doing what I want to do.
You know way more about thecomics than I do.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
I could only.
I could only think of joke.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Well, joker, yeah, he's just straight Wants to just
burn the whole damn thing downand watch it.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Right.
I seriously doubt the Jokerever thought about whether or
not he's right.
It's not about being right withthe Joker.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
It's fun.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
That want to do.
This is the fun thing that Iwant to do.
Yeah, jerker's great.
He's great for that, for sure.
So, um, what platform is thisseries on?
Because, honestly, I again,like I said, we're talking about
it and now I want to watch itand I don't, right, I don't know
where.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Um, let's see I know I think I watch it.
I think I watched on crunchy.
Hold on, I'll do a quick look,real quick Streaming, because
it's not fair to leave ourlisteners here stranded if they
want to see it.
Amazon Prime people are saying,nice, we'll find it, let's
Google it, we'll find it.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Yeah.
So yeah, that's it for ourtopics tonight.
I really hope that everybody,if you haven't already seen
these two shows, you know, Iknow I'm definitely going to
check out.
You're just a fan of the genreor not?
The genre, you know, the, themedium, you know it's a great
(26:39):
show to watch.
Yes, fun.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
The the action is is brutal in that in grandcast I
remember people getting cut inhalf.
Yeah, I remember the Valkyrie.
Sorry, she was awesome, theValkyrie character.
Oh God, what is her name?
Purple hair, got the war markson her face.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Where's the Thor helmet?
Yeah, I know her name, aisha.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
There you go.
I knew if I put you on the spotyou'd remember.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Yeah, I was going to say I don't know what I was
going to say, but yeah, it'sAisha, which I thought it was
Aisha until I was.
You know, listen to the uh, thedub.
Yeah, I listened to the dub andI'm like oh, no, it's Aisha.
Okay, awesome, yeah.
Well, that's it for tonight'sepisode.
So you know, we just want tosay thanks for jumping under the
(27:27):
realm with us.
Uh, be far.
Be sure to follow realm jumperswherever you get your podcasts
and don't forget to share yourthoughts, theories and favorite
moments with us.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Until next time, stay , epic, and keep exploring the
worlds you love.
Leave us a review on yourpodcast platform and, if you
can't think of anything to say,tell us about your favorite
anime.
See you in the next round.
(28:16):
Thank you.
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