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Speaker 1 (00:20):
Today, in Ezekiel,
chapter 16, we're going to be
reading a very descriptivepassage.
We're in a section of the Wordof God where the descriptions
are of how God treated Israel,what he did for her and how she
then reacted.
God described Israel as a baby.
And he found this baby that hadbeen abandoned, it had not been
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taken care of.
And he found this baby that hadbeen abandoned, it had not been
taken care of.
He cleaned it off, raised it upto marriable age, talked about
how beautiful she was.
Today we're going to get intothe section where, in the
description, israel turns in toa very lewd prostitute.
We're in a section of the Wordof God that's very expressive,
it's very emotional, it's verygraphic.
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So we're going to read a lot ofthis, simply because the
language here is so profound.
Again, the literary style isjust quite important.
The Bible, yes, is a historicalbook, yes, it's the Word of God
, but it's also just veryexpressive literature.
That's what we're going to heartoday.
We're going to see what Godthinks of Israel's idol worship.
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He describes it as he would aprostitute.
Again, remember last time therewas this very loving child that
the father loved, raised thechild up to a very beautiful
marriable age provided a lot ofgreat things for this bride, and
today we're going to see whathappened to this bride and how
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she responded to the love of theFather.
Steve, can you read in Ezekiel,chapter 16, and start at verse
35 and read down to 59?
Therefore.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
O harlot, hear the
word of the Lord.
Thus says the Lord God, becauseyour lewdness was poured out
and your nakedness uncoveredthrough your hollertrees with
your lovers and with all yourdetestable idols, and because of
the blood of your sons, whichyou gave to idols.
Therefore, behold, I willgather all your lovers with whom
you took pleasure.
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Behold, I will gather all yourlovers with whom you took
pleasure, even all those whomyou loved and all those whom you
hated.
So I will gather them againstyou from every direction and
expose your nakedness to them,that they may see all your
nakedness.
Thus, I will judge you likewomen who commit adultery or
shed blood are judged, and Iwill bring on you the blood of
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wrath and jealousy.
I will also give you into thehands of your lovers and they
will tear down your shrines,demolish your high places, strip
you of your clothing, take awayyour jewels and will leave you
naked and bare.
They will incite a crowdagainst you and they will stone
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you and cut you to pieces withtheir swords.
They will burn your houses withfire and execute judgments on
you in the sight of many women.
Then I will stop you fromplaying the harlot and you will
also no longer pay your lovers.
So I will calm my fury againstyou and my jealousy will depart
from you, and I will be pacifiedand angry no more, because you
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have not remembered the days ofyour youth, but have enraged me
by all these things.
Behold, I in turn will bringyour conduct down on your own
head, declares the Lord God, sothat you will not commit this
lewdness on top of all yourother abominations.
Behold, everyone who quotesProverbs will quote this proverb
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concerning you, saying Likemother, like daughter.
You are the daughter of yourmother, who loathed her husband
and children.
You are also the sister of yoursisters, who loathe their
husbands and children.
Your mother was a Hittite andyour father an Amorite.
Now your older sister isSamaria, who lives north of you
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with her daughters, and youryounger sister, who lives south
of you, is Sodom, with herdaughters.
Yet you have not merely walkedin their ways or done according
to their abominations, but, asif that were too little, you
acted more corruptly in all yourconduct than they.
As I live, declares the LordSodom, your sister and her
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daughters have not done as youand your daughters have done.
Behold, this was the guilt ofyour sister, sodom.
She and her daughters hadarrogance, abundant food and
careless ease, but she did nothelp the poor and needy.
Thus, they were haughty andcommitted abominations before me
.
Therefore, I removed them whenI saw it.
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Furthermore, samaria did notcommit half of your sins, for
you have multiplied yourabominations more than they.
Thus, you have made your sistersappear righteous by all your
abominations which you havecommitted.
Also, bear your disgrace inthat you have made judgments
favorable for your sistersBecause of your sins, in which
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you acted more abominately thanthey.
They are more in the right thanyou.
Yes, be also ashamed and bearyour disgrace in that you made
your sisters appear righteous.
Nevertheless, I will restoretheir captivity, the captivity
of Sodom and her daughters, thecaptivity of Samaria and her
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daughters, and, along with them,your own captivity, in order
that you may bear yourhumiliation and feel ashamed for
all that you have done.
When you become a consolationto them, your sisters, sodom
with her daughters, and Samariawith her daughters, will return
to their former state, and withyou, your daughters will return
to their former state, and withyou, your daughters will also
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return to your former state, asthe name of your sister, sodom,
was not heard from your lips inyour day of pride before your
wickedness was uncovered.
So now you have become thereproach of the daughters of
Edom and of all who are aroundher, of the daughters of the
Philistines, those surroundingyou who despise you.
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You have borne the penalty ofyour lewdness and abominations
the Lord declares For.
Thus says the Lord, god, I willalso do with you as you have
done, you who have despised theoath by breaking the covenant.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
With this.
Again, it was very descriptivepassage.
He's describing the actions ofthe people of Israel as if they
were an adulterous bride thathad not only been adulterous but
turned into a prostitute.
And, as we saw in the earliersections, this particular
prostitute isn't even really inthe business.
This prostitute is paying thecustomers instead of the other
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way around, and it's because theidol worship that they were
doing included sex worship andit also included child sacrifice
.
We see back in verse 36,.
It says because of the blood ofyour sons, which you gave to
idols.
What had happened in the historyof Israel is that when they
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came into the land afterwandering in the wilderness for
40 years, they were supposed toget rid of all the Canaanites,
and the Canaanites had beenpracticing child sacrifice, they
practiced sex worship and allthese abominations.
God said get rid of them.
They will not listen, so we'regoing to destroy these people.
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And, of course, modern skepticsand critics think they knew
better than God and say that Godshould not have commanded
Joshua and the Israelites to getrid of all of the Canaanites.
It seems that the ancientIsraelites agreed with the
modern skeptics because theydidn't do it and they didn't
follow God's commands.
Here by the time we get down toEzekiel.
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It's not the case that the goodof the people of Israel had
influenced the evil Canaanites.
It was the other way around.
The evil Canaanites hadinfluenced Israel to the point
that Israel was now sacrificingtheir children to the idols.
And if you want to see howgraphic it is, look up what
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happened when they sacrificedtheir children to the heated
arms of the idol Molech.
The other thing is they wouldhave open sex worship and it was
destroying the nation With this.
God says in verse 35 of thischapter that he will allow
foreign countries to come in andinvade Jerusalem to expose the
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people bare.
The enemies will tear down theshrines, kill many people and
burn the city.
That's what he's telling them.
The Israelites had wanted tocommune with the gods of these
foreign nations, these idols.
So Yahweh says you want tocommune with those gods.
I'm going to let you have themuntil you're sick of them.
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The people that are for theseidols are going to come in and
destroy your country, destroyyour cities.
They're going to come in anddestroy your country, destroy
your cities.
They're going to have their waywith you.
And then, in verse 41, afterthe enemies come in and defeat
Jerusalem.
God will stop them from playingthe harlot, stop them from
worshiping idols with theseforeign nations.
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He speaks about these foreignnations and actually gives
specifically in these passages,several countries.
If you remember, when we werereading, he mentioned the
Amorites, the Hittites, hementioned the Samaritans, he
mentioned the people of Sodom,the Edomites and the Philistines
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.
With this, steve, firstquestion is what do we think of
when we first read these verygraphic descriptions of the
destruction?
And secondly, does God knowabout and give prophecies about
countries outside of Israel?
Speaker 2 (10:18):
First thing I think
about after reading that was
that God is turning them over tothemselves.
He's completely letting themreap what they had sowed in
their abominations before Godwith all the idol worship.
It wasn't just the idol worship.
You mentioned some other thingsthere that were detestable
child sacrifice, lewd acts ofworship, those type of things.
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He has more of an expectationout of Israel.
As you mentioned, they weresupposed to be a model to all
the other nations as to whoYahweh was and the relationship
that he would have with them,but yet what they've done is
they have just turned into theother nations themselves.
This is a great disappointment.
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You can feel that in what Godis saying here, you have done so
much of a disappointment to meby not doing what I have asked
you to do and in fact doing theopposite and being like all the
other nations, that I'm going totreat you like all the other
nations.
Yet, even though theythemselves were not worshipers
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of me or did abominable thingsin front of me, you're even
worse than them because you didat one time have a relationship
with me.
I have protected you.
I've given you judges in timeswhenever you needed them.
I brought you out of Egypt Onand on different things that he
has done for the nation ofIsrael to protect them and to
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guide them, to give themguidance through prophets, and
he gave them the ordinances andstatutes that they were to keep.
He's telling them you are evenworse than these other nations.
Why?
Because they're not believersin me.
You were once believers in meand we have this covenant of the
law that has been given to youand also an unconditional
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covenant that was given withyour forefather, abraham, Isaac
and Jacob.
God is just really disappointedand really angry with them
through here Now.
The second part of your questionwas does God speak about other
nations?
He does that through here.
He first mentions the Hittitesand the Amorites.
He mentions Sodom and Gomorrahand the other sister cities on
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the plain.
He mentions the Philistinesover on the east coast and he
then finally mentions Edom, whowas down in the south.
Through mentioning all thoseother nations or kingdoms, he's
covering all of the area, fromthe north to the south, to the
west, to the east of Israel, allthese other nations that were
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there in the land, and he'scondemned them.
And what happened to SodomSodom was taken out and the
different things that weretalked about through the
conflicts, the judges withPhilistines and the things that
happened with Edom and on and onand on, that God happened to
provide for Israel.
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So, yeah, god does talk aboutother nations and he's not happy
with them because they're notworshipers of him or followers
of him, but yet he's reallytaking it out on Israel because
they have just disappointed himand, through their actions, have
just made him angry.
So, in essence, he's justturning them over to themselves
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and he's going to treat themjust like all the other nations.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
What he says in this
section that we just got through
reading it is quite a graphicsection and it does indeed speak
to and against many of theseforeign nations, so that we can
tell from this that God doescommunicate to and with nations
outside of Israel.
He knows what countries aredoing.
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It's his world, he's in control.
And what he's saying is I'mgoing to take these other
nations and let them come in andattack you Again.
Look at verse 37.
I will gather all your loverswith whom you took pleasure.
Those are these idols fromthese other nations, even all
those whom you loved and allthose whom you hated.
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So I will gather them againstyou from every direction.
And Now, steve, that's veryharsh.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Do we have a God that
sometimes says harsh things?
I'm going to abolish all thisidol worship that you've been
doing Once and for all.
This is going to be dealt with,but it's going to be dealt with
a way that the other countriesare going to be the ones that
discipline you, the ones thatyou brought to the dance, so to
speak.
Those are the ones that aregoing to turn against you and
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those are the ones that aregoing to end up disciplining you
, and from that, you're going tocome to a point where one thing
is going to be for sure Idleworship and things like that are
no longer going to be somethingthat you're going to turn to.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
So these foreign
nations will not be able to
appear before God and say wedidn't know, simply because the
prophet gets the message to them.
No one can get to God at theend and say you didn't tell me,
I never knew, because everyonewill be without excuse.
That's what it tells us over inthe book of Romans.
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Then, at the end of verse 47,and, steve, you mentioned this a
minute ago God tells them thatyou acted more corruptly in all
your conduct than they.
And what was especiallyegregious, as you well pointed
out, was Israel had the law,they had a right relationship
with God.
At one point, they knew better,they had many blessings that
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were revealed to them throughthe covenants and the law and
the prophets the prophets andtherefore it's especially
egregious when Israel, of allpeople, started going after
these pagan religious practices,and especially because it was
Israel and they acted even morecorruptly than they.
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It reminds me of countries suchas ours that once was heavily
Christian but now is in manyways worse than the most pagan
of nations that's ever lived,and the people that had more
light will be judged moreheavily.
That's why he's judging and sostrict here is because Israel,
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of all people, knew better, butyet they're acting worse.
And that's the same that ishappening with some of our
former Christian nations thatused to know better, but now
they are as debased as anycountries on earth.
Now it speaks of Sodom andSodom's sin.
If we look at verse 49, itspeaks Behold, this was the
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guilt of your sister, sodom.
She and her daughters hadarrogance, abundant food and
careless ease, but she did nothelp the poor and needy.
Thus they were haughty andcommitted abominations before me
.
Therefore, I removed them.
Now there are people that liketo take passages like this and
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try to wipe out the idea thatthe Sodomites were judged
because of sexual sins.
The people today that reallywant to embrace sexual sins and
sexual abandonment go topassages like this and try to
say well see, they don't thinkSodom was judged because of
sexual sins or any sort ofabominations, but it was because
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of not being hospitable, notgiving away food when they
should have and not being nice.
My friend, a closer inspectionof the Word of God will reveal
something very different.
First of all, in verse 50, theword abomination.
There is the same word for allthe other worst abominations
that are used, includinghomosexual acts.
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Sodom, specifically, wasmentioned in other places in the
Bible as having sexual sins,specifically Jude, verse 7 and
Genesis 19.8.
And then here in Ezekiel 16.49,it does not say that Sodom's
sin was only in hospitality.
It mentions in hospitality, butthat wasn't the only cause.
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It was not mere inhospitalitythat increased God's anger.
It was indeed what the otherpassages claim, which was gross
sexual sins.
Then in verse 51, it says Israelwas more sinful than Samaria.
Israel acted so bad that itmade the pagan nations look
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righteous.
Verse 59, if we look there, godsays that Israel has broken the
covenant.
This would be the Mosaiccovenant, because the Mosaic
covenant was dependent upon theJewish people obeying the Mosaic
law.
Mosaic covenant was dependentupon the Jewish people obeying
the Mosaic law Makes that veryclear in Deuteronomy, chapter 31
.
Since they broke it, god waspunishing them.
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Israel could not break theAbrahamic covenant simply
because that was a unilateralpromise made by God that was not
dependent on Israel's obedience.
Up to now, god has had a, again, very graphic, very expressive
condemnation of Israel's sin anddescribed it in some detail.
He turns a little bit of acorner here and in verses 60 to
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63, he talks about a newcovenant.
This is a dramatic shift fromwhat he has been talking about
in the previous parts of thechapter.
So it's quite amazing.
Steve, can you read Ezekiel 16,verses 60 to 63?
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Nevertheless, I will
remember my covenant with you in
the days of your youth and Iwill establish an everlasting
covenant with you.
Then you will remember yourways and be ashamed when you
receive your sisters, both yourolder and your younger, and I
will give them to you asdaughters, but not because of
your covenant.
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Thus, I will establish mycovenant with you and you shall
know that I am the Lord, so thatyou may remember and be ashamed
and never open your mouthanymore because of your
humiliation, when I haveforgiven you for all that you
have done.
The Lord God declares.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
So it says in this
passage that we just read I will
remember my covenant with youin the days of your youth, steve
.
What covenant is he talkingabout there?
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Well, Glenn, we know
that the covenant that's spoken
of in verse 60 is not the samecovenant that's spoken of in
verse 59.
Because in 59, it says thatthey broke that covenant.
Because in 59, it says thatthey broke that covenant, and in
verse 60, he says I willremember my covenant with you in
the days of your youth and Iwill establish an everlasting
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covenant with you.
Well, the covenant that God istalking about here is the
covenant of Abraham.
He says I'm going to rememberthat covenant.
It's not the same one that'sspoken of in verse 59, because
he's already stated you brokethat covenant, so it's got to be
a different covenant that he'sremembering in verse 60.
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And I believe that's theAbrahamic covenant that he's
talking about there, that he'sgoing to remember.
And because he has rememberedthat Abrahamic covenant, he is
now going to establish a newcovenant with them, and that's
what he's talking about in verse60.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
One of the major
themes in the book of Ezekiel is
that in the midst of God'swrath and condemnation and
judgment, there is a newcovenant.
That's what he's speaking abouthere and it's of major
importance simply because, again, so much of the book is about
God's wrath and judgment thatthe new covenant really stands
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out as a bright and shiningpoint.
He says here in the end ofverse 60, I will establish an
everlasting covenant with you,and then he goes on to talk
about some of the things.
You're going to remember yourways and be ashamed.
So this covenant is going to bean everlasting covenant.
The idea of a new covenant thatGod's going to make is mentioned
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in several places in Scripture.
We've already seen it, ifyou've been with us in Eiel,
chapter 11, verses 18 to 20.
It's also mentioned twice laterin this book in Ezekiel 36,
verses 26 to 28, and again inEzekiel, chapter 37.
The most prominent place thatthe new covenant is mentioned is
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probably Jeremiah 31, verse 31,simply because that verse is
quoted over in the New Testamentin Hebrews, chapter 8 and again
in Hebrews, chapter 10.
Hebrews 8 and chapter 10 bothquote Jeremiah 31.
Hebrews applies this newcovenant to the church, so we
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can draw some very large anddramatic and very important
conclusions from this newcovenant.
He says in all of these placesin the Old Testament that this
new covenant is going to be madewith Israel.
So therefore, the new covenantis with Israel, because it says
so, but the church has beengrafted into that according to,
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again, the book of Hebrews,chapter 8 and 12.
Steve, that's a quite profoundconcept is it not?
Speaker 2 (24:07):
I think it is Glenn.
This isn't the only place inEzekiel that he's going to
mention this covenant and we'llprobably get into more details
whenever he comes up again laterin the book.
But this is something that wecan't say I think was brought
about when they returned fromtheir exile from Babylon,
because when we get into the NewTestament and the conflict that
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Jesus has with them, they'renot talking about any type of
new covenant.
They're arguing with Jesus.
In fact, jesus is rebuking thembecause of the ways and
traditions that they have thatthey think supersedes the law of
Moses.
This is something that has nothappened yet.
Like I said, we'll talk aboutit in more detail when we get
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into it later in this book.
But sometimes people want to putinto a category that a lot of
things that prophets say werefulfilled when they came back
from Babylon All different typesof things.
Oh, that was fulfilled wheneverthe people came back from it.
He regathered them.
That's when they came back fromBabylon.
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This is not one of those.
This is not something that wasfulfilled whenever they returned
from Babylon.
This is still something yet tohappen with the nation that's
who he's saying he's going tomake an everlasting covenant
with is the nation.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
And the reason we can
know that there's clues in here
why that's the case.
Twice, in this littlefour-verse section, he talks
about how you will remember yourways and be ashamed.
He talks about how you willremember your ways and be
ashamed.
Well, the nation of Israel hasnot up to now remembered their
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ways of rejecting the Lord JesusChrist and rejecting God and
all these passages in the OldTestament and been ashamed of
that.
They have fallen into makingtheir religion a tradition and
they hold on to their traditionsand they continue to reject the
Lord Jesus.
The other reason in here is itgives us a clue In the middle of
verse 63, never open your mouthanymore because of your
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humiliation when I have forgivenyou for all you have done.
And the word forgiven there inour New American Standard in
many of the other Englishtranslations uses the word
atonement or atoned for all thatyou have done.
Well, of course, steve, whereis the point in biblical history
where we are atoned for all?
Speaker 2 (26:34):
that we have done,
it's through the atonement that
Jesus made with his death,burial and resurrection.
That's where our sins arecovered there.
That is the time whenever we inour era have the covering for
Jesus, but not also in our era,but also for the sins formerly
done as well.
That's mentioned in Romans 3,verses 24 to 26.
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Romans, chapter 3, verses 24 to26,.
The once and for all atonementfor mankind was made with Jesus
at the time of his death, burialand resurrection.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Verse 63 talks about
the time when all of the sins
were atoned for.
It also mentions twice in thislittle passage that you're going
to realize how you used tothink and be ashamed of that,
and so therefore it does not fitof the time of the Maccabees,
when Israel returned fromBabylon.
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It does not fit in the church,simply because, again, if we
look at verse 61 in this passagetalks about these other groups
of people.
You receive your sisters, bothyour older and your younger, and
I will give them to you asdaughters, but not because of
this covenant.
Well, it had already told usearlier in the chapter who that
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is.
It's the people from Sodom andthese other groups that were
just mentioned.
There was not a time when theJews reconciled with the
Samaritans.
Just look at how the Jewishnation viewed the Samaritans in
the first century, when Jesuscame, they had not reconciled
with the Samaritans.
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So therefore, the only way wecan make this fit into some sort
of time in history or some sortof allegorical application to
the church, the only way we canmake that fit is to just skip
over parts of it and not dealwith it.
So if we look at what itactually says, then we are
forced into a position that itmeans exactly what it says which
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is going to make a new covenantwith the nation of Israel.
Which he's going to make a newcovenant with the nation of
Israel.
Jeremiah 31 says specifically itis a new covenant with Israel.
Now, hebrews, as we just saidchapter 8 and chapter 10, take
that and apply it to the church.
We take it that it is indeedthrough Jesus Christ that these
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will be filled and at some pointin the future we're going to
have the Jewish nation bereconciled to Jesus Christ.
At that point they willremember their past sins and be
ashamed that they had rejectedtheir Messiah for as long as
they had.
Then they will reconcile andthat day it will be a glorious
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day.
They will reconcile with theother peoples that they've
separated from all these years.
The Lord is going to ensure.
It says in this passage that therelationship between these
estranged people groups will berestored.
And the end of verse 63, godsays at that time he will
forgive them of all they havedone.
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Again, that is for atonement.
To wrap this up, steve, doesthis seem unusual to you that in
the midst of this book, and ifwe look at it as a whole.
There's large sections of Godpouring out His wrath and God
pouring out judgment on adisobedient people.
Over and over again he listsoff their sins and all the times
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Again this graphic depiction ofthis beautiful bride becoming
this ugly prostitute.
Yet right in the midst of thathe says I'm going to make a new
covenant and I'm going toreconcile with you.
And it's sort of a dramaticbright spot in the midst of a
ugly passage.
Do you find that surprising?
Speaker 2 (30:19):
in the midst of a
ugly passage.
Do you find that surprising?
I don't with God, because itshows his character, his mercy,
his grace and his honesty,truthfulness and his commitment.
He has made this commitmentwith the nation of Israel and
with Abraham, and he's going tofollow through with it.
So this is a time periodwhenever they have done the
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destable things.
He's taken action to get thatcorrected, but yet he's telling
them I am still going to loveyou and I'm still going to
establish a new covenant withyou and I'm going to make these
things come to a point where youare going to remember me and
remember your ways and you'regoing to be sorrowful for all of
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that that you've done.
No, not surprising at all.
Just like he has done with us,in that he has come himself in
the form of a man so that hecould be the satisfactory
sacrifice.
That's how loving our God is.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
That brings us to the
end of chapter 16.
And we'd ask you to come backnext time.
We're going to see chapter 17,a couple of eagles that are
going to do some tree planting.
So we're going out to the woodsnext time and we'll reason
through that as we continue towork through the book of Ezekiel
.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Thank you so much for
watching and listening.
May God bless you.