The crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus Christ stand as the most profound events in human history—the hinge point upon which everything turns. When examining these world-changing moments, we discover both the raw humanity of those who witnessed them and the divine power that transformed their lives forever.
The narrative brings us face-to-face with Joseph of Arimathea, a secret disciple who kept his faith hidden until the critical moment when courage was required. As a respected member of the Sanhedrin council, Joseph risked everything—reputation, position, and possibly his life—to approach Pilate directly and request Jesus's body. His journey from secret believer to public disciple mirrors the struggle many Christians face today in workplaces and social circles where faith expression carries consequences.
What makes the resurrection account so compelling is the meticulous detail preserved by eyewitnesses. From the Roman centurion who professionally verified Jesus's death to the women who observed exactly where the body was laid, the narrative eliminates any possibility of confusion or substitution. These same women, arriving at dawn with burial spices (clearly not expecting resurrection), discovered the seemingly immovable stone already rolled away—a powerful reminder that God specializes in removing obstacles we consider insurmountable.
The variations between the four Gospel accounts, rather than undermining credibility, actually strengthen it. Real eyewitness testimony from different perspectives rarely aligns perfectly, especially during chaotic, emotional events unfolding over several hours. Most telling is the unanimous agreement that women discovered the empty tomb first—a detail no fabricator in first-century Jewish culture would include given the inadmissibility of female testimony.
Beyond historical validation, the resurrection offers profound hope for our daily struggles. When we face situations that leave us terrified and confused, just as the first witnesses were, we can trust that God's purposes will ultimately become clear. The resurrection isn't just something that happened—it's something that happens, transforming our darkest moments with the assurance that death, despair, and impossibility have been conquered once and for all.
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Speaker 1 (00:20):
Hello and welcome to Reasoning Through the Bible.
My name's Glenn.
I'm here with Steve, if you'vebeen following along with us
last time Jesusing Through theBible.
My name's Glenn, I'm here withSteve, if you've been following
along with us.
Last time, jesus died on thecross and this was the most
monumental event in humanhistory, along with what we're
going to see today, which is theresurrection of our Lord Jesus.
We'll have the burial and thenthe resurrection.
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We'll have the burial and thenthe resurrection, which, along
with the cross, is the hingepoint of history.
It's the most profound eventsthat have happened in all of
mankind.
I trust you'll be with us.
It's a most rich passage.
Let's go ahead and get started.
Open your Bibles to Mark 15,starting in verse 42.
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Steve, can you read from theredown to verse 47?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
When evening had already come, because it was the
preparation day, that is, theday before the Sabbath, joseph
of Arimathea came a prominentmember of the council who
himself was waiting for thekingdom of God, and he gathered
up courage and went in beforePilate and asked for the body of
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Jesus.
Pilate wondered if he was deadby this time and, summoning the
centurion, he questioned him asto whether he was already dead
and, ascertaining this from thecenturion, he granted the body
to Joseph.
Joseph bought a linen cloth,took him down, wrapped him in
the linen cloth and laid him ina tomb which had been hewn out
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in the rock, and he rolled astone against the entrance of
the tomb.
Mary Magdalene and Mary, themother of Joseph, were looking
on to see where he was laid.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
We're introduced to this man, joseph of Arimathea.
It says here that he was laid.
We're introduced to this man,joseph of Arimathea.
It says here that he waswaiting for the kingdom.
Now, steve, what can we inferfrom that about this man, joseph
?
What was his spiritualcondition, do you think?
Speaker 2 (02:16):
I think that he was a secret follower of Jesus.
I say secret because he's alsoa member of the council.
That's the Sanhedrin.
In other texts it affirms that.
So he's at least a Pharisee ora Sadducee probably a Pharisee
because the Sadducees didn'tbelieve in resurrection and of
course Joseph doesn't know thisat the time, but I think he is a
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follower of Jesus.
We also have another followerfrom the council.
That's a follower of JesusNicodemus.
So we have at least two of them.
One of the other gospels saysthat Joseph here was not one of
the one who voted against Jesusfor his death penalty from the
Sanhedrin.
So I think that he is afollower of Jesus.
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He has the faith that he is theking.
He's anticipating the kingdom.
Well, what was going to comewith the Messiah and the king
was going to be a kingdom.
So I believe that this is anindication that he was a
faithful believer and followerof Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
He was indeed a disciple of Christ.
The Gospels tell us this.
It says here that he waswaiting for the kingdom, which
tells me that he was a believerin the scriptures, that he
believed the Bible enough.
He believed God's promisesenough to know, hey, there's a
kingdom coming and he's lookingfor this.
There were Jewish people thatwere going through religious
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rituals but didn't reallybelieve what God had said.
This man, joseph, he waswaiting for the kingdom.
That means he believed what Godhad told him.
Again, you alluded, steve, toseveral of the other Gospels,
that if we take all of what theGospels tell us, then we have a
more full picture of this man.
John 19.38 tells us that Josephwas a secret disciple, but it
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also says he was afraid of theJewish leaders.
That's why he was secret.
Luke 23.51 tells us Joseph didnot consent with the actions and
the voting of the otherSanhedrin to execute Jesus.
I take it that Joseph was likemany Christians today.
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I see myself especially earlyin my faith walk.
I was very much like this man,joseph, and I see other
Christians that are like thisman.
He had faith in Christ, but hewas afraid to come out in public
and speak up at work.
His job was on the Sanhedrinand if he were to express his
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faith in Christ at his job, it'sgoing to cost him.
He would have paid a price inhis reputation with the other
non-believers and it would havecost him in his career.
Steve, can we learn something?
In our day, many of us findourselves living around and
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having family members and peoplethat we interact with, either
at our jobs or just in our lives.
If we express faith in Christ,it's going to cost us something
to our reputation, maybe evenour finances.
People pay a price when they'rea follower of Jesus Christ.
How can we take an example fromthis?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
man, joseph.
They pay a price, especiallywhen they're an open follower of
Jesus Christ, and I don't justmean that somebody that's always
talking about Jesus at work,those type of things, just that
they profess their faith asthey're being a Christian.
And I've been guilty of thesame thing that you mentioned,
glenn, that I've not necessarilylet people know that I was a
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Christian in certain situationsand I look back on it and look
back on it a little bit shamefulof doing that.
And some of the reasons arejust what you pointed out.
You might have a fear that it'sgoing to affect your finances
because you're passed over forpromotions or other type of
things.
Being a follower of Jesus Christdoes sometimes come with a
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price, but it also comes with ablessing.
I think overall, the blessingsoutweigh any type of penalties
or prices that you might pay ina secular world.
The main blessing that you getis eternal life.
So showing that you're a friendof Jesus and being an open
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advocate for him and follower ofhim in the end run is going to
be better for you, I think, thanit is for you to be a closet
Christian, so to speak, and notwant anybody else to know that
you're a Christian, except forwhenever you go around your
Christian friends on Sunday orwhenever, wherever it is that
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you go to worship.
We still have that today.
I would encourage people don'tlet that overshadow you.
Let people know that you're aChristian and you'll get many,
many more blessings out of itthan you will any type of a
price that you're a Christianand you'll get many, many more
blessings out of it than youwill any type of a price that
you might pay.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
John 19.38 tells us that this man, joseph of
Arimathea, was afraid of theother people on the council, the
Sanhedrin.
Therefore, he kept his faithquiet.
But at this point, when Jesusdies on the cross, joseph steps
up.
He makes his faith known.
He doesn't keep his faithprivate here because the Lord
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needed him.
The Lord needed him to step upand do something.
Yes, he had been guilty ofkeeping his faith private, but
he didn't stay there.
He stepped up at this point intime and made it known, not only
to the Jewish people but allthe way up to Pilate.
He stepped up and made hisfaith known by this act of
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kindness of burying Jesus's body.
So what we can learn fromJoseph.
We may see ourselves in him asbeing somewhat timid sometimes,
but he didn't stay there.
When it came time and it wastime to do ministry, he stepped
up.
He made his faith known, nomatter what it cost him.
At this point, he was makinghis faith public.
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As you said, steve, we'llalways be better off when we
follow the Lord's commands.
We don't want to be the personthat is not doing our work at
work, but we also don't want tohide our faith.
Jesus told us that people wholove him should not hide their
light under a basket, but let itshine.
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In the end, joseph stepped upand let his light shine.
So should we.
It took courage to go to Pilate.
I mean, pilate was someone thatthe average Jewish person just
didn't rub elbows with.
This was the person that hadthe power on a whim, if you got
angry, to cause you at leastimprisonment, possibly even
death.
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So this took some courage forJoseph to stand up and be very
public with his faith and askfor the body of Christ.
Also, joseph spent his ownmoney.
He took his own resources here.
He used his own tomb, whichcost something.
He gave Jesus his personalgravesite.
I take that to be.
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This man truly was a believer.
He had been hiding his faithfor fear of men, but in the end
he let his faith win out.
That's the great example for ustoday.
Moving on in this passage verse44 and 45, pilate verifies with
the centurion that Jesus wasdead.
The centurion was anexecutioner.
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He was a professional killer.
It was his job to kill people.
He did it day in and day out.
He knew when someone was deadand when the executioner says
you're dead, then you're deadand you only bury somebody
that's dead.
Steve Jesus died for my sinsand he died for your sins and he
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died for the sins of ourlisteners.
It says in verse 46,.
They wrapped him in linen, andlinen was a finer cloth and was
somewhat expensive, but he wasburied.
Why?
Because he was dead.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
The reason why you're emphasizing that, glenn, is
because there is a sect outthere that says oh no, jesus
didn't die, he just swooned orhe fainted or he passed out and
he just appeared to be dead.
Everything you quoted there isto point that out and I think
it's recorded here.
For that reason, the centurionthat was in charge of knowing
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whether or not the people weredead came and put a testimony in
front of Pilate to say, no,he's dead.
Now, if he wasn't dead and thecenturion gave that testimony to
Pilate, then he was putting hislife on the line, because that
meant that he was disobeying acommandment that had been given
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to him from Pilate.
This person is to be crucified,crucified meant that he was
being put to death.
So there's no way that thecenturion was going to put his
life on the line to go lie toPilate and say, oh, no, he's
dead, but secretly that hereally isn't dead.
That is some conspiracy that hewas involved with.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
No, he was dead, and Scripture bears that out through
this testimony alone of thiscenturion At the end of chapter
15, verse 47, says MaryMagdalene and Mary, the mother
of Joseph, were looking on tosee where he was laid.
We pointed out, I believe inthe last session these women
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followed him for much of hisearthly ministry.
They had followed him dailyfrom Galilee to Jerusalem.
They followed him every day inJerusalem.
They followed him through hisdeath on the cross.
Now they're watching the bodyget put into the tomb.
They knew exactly where it was.
There's no way they could havemixed up who died on the cross.
There's no way they could havemixed up where the grave was.
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There's no way they could havemixed up whether he died.
We're going to see chapter 16,verse 1.
They're still there onresurrection morning.
They were sure that Jesus diedon the cross and all these crazy
theories about somebody elsedying in his place or mixing up
the tombs are just that crazytheories.
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Let's go ahead and move on.
Chapter 15, of course was thedeath.
We get to the gloriousresurrection.
In chapter 16, and starting atverse 1, it says this sun had
risen.
They were saying to one anotherwho will roll away the stone
for us?
From the entrance of the tomb.
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Looking up, they saw the stonehad been rolled away, although
it was extremely large.
Entering the tomb, they saw ayoung man sitting at the right
wearing a white robe, and theywere amazed.
And he said to them Do not beamazed, you are looking for
Jesus, the Nazarene who has beencrucified.
He has risen.
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He is not here.
Behold, here is the place wherethey laid him, but go tell his
disciples and Peter, he is goingahead of you to Galilee.
There you will see him.
Just as he told you, they wentout and fled from the tomb, for
trembling and astonishment hadgripped them and they said
nothing to anyone for they wereafraid.
With this, on the resurrectionmorning, verse 1, steve, who
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came and what were they wantingto do?
Speaker 2 (13:47):
It was Mary Magdalene and Mary, the mother of James
and Salome.
They were the ones that werealso watching at a distance at
the crucifixion site and theywere coming to the grave with
spices for the burials.
It depicts, glenn, that becausethey had these spices for
burial, their expectation wasn'tgoing to be that there was
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going to be a resurrection.
That wasn't what was on theirmind at this time.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
In the narrative that Mark is pointing out, yes,
exactly there was the same womenthat saw where he was laid.
So they came now this is dawn,or just at or after dawn they
brought spices which were toanoint the body.
As the body decayed, they wouldput spices on it to cut down
the stench and to honor him, toanoint the body.
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They could have very well,obviously, bought them after
dark the night before the Jewishday started.
At sundown On the Sabbath daythey could have gone out and
bought spices after sundown,when it was no longer the
Sabbath.
Now, the next morning at dawnthey've brought these spices and
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again they were wondering who'sgoing to move this large stone,
but they found out it hadalready been moved.
Now I think we should take onesmall rabbit trail here and talk
about the different accounts inthe Gospels of resurrection
morning.
The four Gospels emphasizedifferent things and give
different eyewitness accounts ofexactly what was emphasized.
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I think if we just compare them, there's of course the skeptics
and critics kind of have afield day because they don't
read exactly the same word forword on all of them.
But one of the questions, forexample, is which women were
there?
None of the Gospels give us acomplete list of who all the
women were.
Mark records three names butdoes not say it was only these
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three.
One of the Gospels says andothers.
There was a group of peoplethat came.
There would have been initialconfusion.
I mean, obviously they didn'thave our benefit of looking back
on it over thousands of yearsand thinking about it all of our
lives.
This was new to them and theywere reacting.
So you can imagine theconfusion and a lot of running
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back and forth.
As verse 8 says, they kind ofran at different times.
So you can imagine the kind ofconfusion.
There was a group of themrunning back and forth.
Mark says it was very early andthe sun had risen.
Luke 24.1 says early dawn.
John 20.1 says while it wasstill dark.
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And, believe it or not, there'speople that get into arguments
about saying well, it was darkbut the sun had come up, and
thinking this is some sort of acontradiction.
Well, I submit they need to getup early tomorrow morning and
watch the sun come up, becausethe sun doesn't come up like a
light switch.
It's not just instantaneous andsuddenly it goes from dark to
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light, especially in a hillycountry.
If you've ever been in a hillyenvironment and gotten up before
dawn you'll see the sky slowlygets lighter, the top of the
hill gets the sun on it and it'sstill dark down in the valleys.
Some of the valleys in a hillycountry don't get light until
almost midday.
It's entirely possible that allthese are very congruent,
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simply because dawn is notinstantaneous.
The sun takes a while fromfirst visible light until being
considered fully day, and italso could be that it's first
light and still dark.
It doesn't get again justbright sunlight instantaneously.
First visible light is stillquite dark.
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Thank you very much.
It also could have been darkwhen they left and light when
they got there.
It could have had an earlymorning fog or a haze, could
have been cloudy that day.
It's just silly to get intothese arguments about how dark
is dark and how light is lightwhen all the Gospels are really
describing an event that tookplace over a period of at least
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a couple of hours and it wentfrom very dark to slowly getting
lighter.
We also read the four Gospels.
We compare the accounts onResurrection Morning.
They don't have the samedetails simply because Mary
Magdalene ran to tell Peter andJohn we're told that in John 20,
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verse 2, and then stayed nearthe tomb.
The events of resurrectionmorning happened over time in
the morning, with a lot ofrunning back and forth.
It's not surprising that thedisciples and the women could
have been confused, afraid.
They had several hours for allthis to unfold and it's just a
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little silly for us to read itin one minute and say that, well
, every detail doesn't matchexactly to the other, simply
because it was eyewitnessaccounts that happened over time
.
For example, again here it hasMary running to get Peter, but
then she's in the garden whenshe thinks he's the gardener.
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Well, again, over a period ofan hour and a half when they're
running back and forth, couldhave easily been in both places.
Steve, I don't know if you haveany thoughts on all this.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
The thought I have is that if all four Gospels would
have had the very exact sameaccount, then what would the
skeptics and scoffers do withthat?
They would say, oh, there's noway that would be true
eyewitness accounts and have thevery exact same story.
This is a depiction that theyall got together and got their
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stories straight and made upthis story, and that's why
they're the same all the waydown, in every detail.
Either way that you go, thescoffers are going to scoff, the
skeptics are going to laugh atit.
That's what they do.
There's no real pleasing themat all.
But to me, the fact that you dohave the variation between the
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Gospels shows to me that it iseyewitness accounts.
A person that has an eyewitnessaccount.
They're going to recordsomething that stands out to
them.
The same thing that stands outto them is not necessarily going
to be the same thing thatstands out to somebody else
that's writing something down.
To me, this shows the veracityor the truth behind what they're
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saying as eyewitness accounts.
And then, secondary to that,through all four of these
accounts, we can put together avery clear picture of what was
going on in the late evening orthe new day of Sunday the first
of the morning on into themorning period of Sunday, that
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first day of the week.
That's my comment on it is thateither way you go, you're still
going to have scoffers that aregoing to scoff.
I'm going with what scripturesays here because I do think it
makes sense when you put allfour Gospels together.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
The women come to the tomb on the morning and they
look up.
It says in verse 4, looking up,they saw the stone had been
rolled away, although it wasextremely large.
Steve, here's a question CanGod move extremely large things
and can he move extremely largethings in my life and your life?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
This is a very minor event, glenn, in all the things
that God has done throughout allof Scripture, and we think of
all the miracles bringing themout of Egypt and the parting of
the Red Sea, taking them intothe Promised Land, the parting
of the Jordan River and all thedifferent things that we've seen
God do.
And Jesus himself and themiracles that he did walking on
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water, feeding 5,000, healingthe sick, casting out demons,
moving a stone in front of agrave is a very minor event in
the various miracles andprovisions that God has made for
his people.
So in our lives, yes, god cando minor things.
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He can also do great things.
This is just one minor thing inthe vast amount of miracles
that we see throughout Scripture.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
The women were wondering how are we going to
move this big, heavy stone?
They get there and they seeGod's already moved it.
I think we can take a lesson onthat.
Do we have big heavy things inour life that we're wondering
how in the world am I going tomove it?
God has the power to move it,even though it's extremely large
, and I think if we just trustHim, he doesn't move everything
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when we want Him to, but healways does it right on time.
So if we just have faith in Him, he can move big heavy things,
things that are too heavy for meand too heavy for you.
We also see here.
What do they find?
The tomb is empty.
There were critics ofChristianity in those days, just
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like there's critics ofChristianity in our day.
In that day, it would have beenvery easy for the people that
didn't like the Christianmessage to destroy it simply by
pointing to the body.
If they wanted to destroyChristianity in the book of Acts
, they would have.
They knew where he was buried.
Just go over there and say he'sright there.
I can show you his skeleton.
Where's the body?
The fact that the tomb was emptyis proof of the resurrection,
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the reason why you never see inthe book of Acts and still today
never see anybody using that asa way to destroy Christianity
is because the tomb was empty.
It is an evidence ofChristianity.
The people here were giving aneyewitness account.
The tomb was empty.
The stone was moved.
They saw an angel.
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They quoted the angel, verse12,.
He appeared to two of thedisciples on the road.
He appeared to the eleven.
They quoted Jesus directlyafter the resurrection.
All these are eyewitnessaccounts and the greatest of all
of these eyewitness accounts isthat the tomb is empty.
Therefore, jesus rose from thedead.
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Therefore, everything he saidwas true.
And, steve, this is a greateyewitness testimony of the
greatest event in human history,which is the resurrection that
gives us the hope of eternallife, that all of our faith
rests upon a resurrected JesusChrist.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
The fact that the eyewitnesses recorded in all the
Gospels, the first to knowabout it are women they go back
and tell the apostles, istelling again as to the
truthfulness of the Gospels thatare writing the accounts.
Why?
Because at that time women'stestimony had no validity
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amongst the Jewish people, theJewish men.
For any type of an officialwitnessing or anything, they had
to have men.
And at that time you certainlywouldn't have put that it was
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women.
Were the first witnesses tofind the tomb empty, you would
have put in there that it wasmen that found it empty, because
that in the culture of the day,would have been more believable
.
So here we have it.
We have truth being toldbecause it was women that found
the empty tomb first and thenwent and told the men.
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To me it's these little thingsthat if you go verse by verse
through Scripture that you haveto confront and you encounter
and it just tells over and overagain.
These are eyewitness accountsof what happened.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
I met a man who had grown up in a Muslim country and
somebody handed him a Bible andasked him to read the gospel
accounts and he said every timeI turned around it was talking
about the resurrection.
He started thinking through allthe various possible
explanations for the empty tomband all the eyewitness accounts,
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all of the possible things thatmight defeat it.
He came to the conclusion thatit was more reasonable to
believe that somebody rose fromthe dead than to believe all the
crazy accounts of trying toexplain away who moved the stone
and the empty tomb and all thechanged lives and all these
things.
The resurrection convinced thedisciples and it changed their
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lives.
In verse 8, in the last versethat we read here, what were the
women doing and why?
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Well, they went and fled from the tomb and they were
trembling.
They were astonished that itwas empty.
It says there very vividly.
It gripped them.
They came to a realization thatJesus was alive, that he wasn't
dead.
It says there they said nothingto anyone for they were afraid.
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This is Mark's account In theother Gospels.
It's very clear that they wentback and told the other apostles
.
They went back and told themthat the grave was empty and we
had the record there of John andPeter running to the grave
itself to see what was going on.
I think that Mark saying theysaid nothing to anyone was that
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they didn't tell anyone elseoutside of the apostles what was
going on or what had happened,because they were afraid.
You pointed out earlier, glenn,that this is all happening.
All of a sudden, they're goingto the tomb with spices with the
expectation to anoint a deadbody.
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What do they find?
There is no dead body.
Jesus is resurrected and theangels are there to explain to
them that he's not there, thathe has been resurrected.
This is a shock to them, andnot only a shock of what
happened, but a happiness.
A shock of happiness that theirperson that they've been
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following, is now alive and hasbeen resurrected.
You have a flood of emotionsthat are going on that I think
Mark is depicting here when itsays that they became trembling
over them and the fear of notletting anyone else know what's
going on.
This is all new, something thatis happening, and we see the
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flow of it taking place throughthe various accounts of the
different Gospels.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
As we mentioned earlier, there was a group of
women Only a few of them arenamed here, at least.
Mary Magdalene went and toldthe disciples, because one of
the other Gospels records that.
But they scattered the groupscatters.
It says here.
They were terrified andconfused and I think that would
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be normal if you had been inthis for the first time, steve.
I think of this in terms of theChristian life today.
We get into situations wherewe're afraid and we're confused
and we're just doing what theLord wants us to do and going
through life and suddenly wefind circumstances that we don't
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understand.
Why is the Lord doing this?
Why am I here?
We have situations where wedon't know what to do.
We're scattered, we'reterrified, we're confused.
I think that if we just realizeGod has a purpose and I might
not understand now, but if Ijust stay the course, stay
faithful to him, then we willsee that he has a purpose for
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all this and he will carry usthrough.
Can we trust God, even insituations where we might be
terrified and confused?
Speaker 2 (29:51):
It's.
The one thing that brings usthrough those situations is that
, as we're scared and terrifiedthrough them, as we see God work
in different ways and bringabout some calmness and peace in
us, it strengthens our faith.
It's kind of a strange thing tosay that in a situation where
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you're terrified of what's goingto happen, but yet you have
this calmness that is given toyou by God through the Holy
Spirit and through therelationship that you have.
It's something that you reallycan't describe to other people,
but it's there and it issomething that I think it
ultimately builds our faith.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
So we end this session on a high note Jesus is
raised.
The people around him don't yetunderstand it, but nevertheless
Jesus has conquered death.
The tomb is empty, the stone isrolled away and Jesus has
demonstrated he is who heclaimed to be and we can take
hope that there is eternal lifein the Christian life.
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So the resurrection is thevictory over death.
He has defeated death.
He paid for our sins on thecross and we can have joy in him
because Jesus is raised.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
The crucifixes that we see with Jesus hanging on the
cross.
They're incorrect, becauseJesus is raised from the dead.
That's how we're finishing outthis session.
He's not on the cross, he'salive today, sitting at the
right hand of the Father.
That's how we should rememberJesus, not hanging on a cross.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
We'll be back next time to close out the book of
Mark Next time.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Thank you so much for watching and listening.
May God bless you.
Hello and welcome to Reasoning Through the Bible.
My name's Glenn.
I'm here with Steve, if you'vebeen following along with us
last time Jesusing Through theBible.
My name's Glenn, I'm here withSteve, if you've been following
along with us.
Last time, jesus died on thecross and this was the most
monumental event in humanhistory, along with what we're
going to see today, which is theresurrection of our Lord Jesus.
We'll have the burial and thenthe resurrection.
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We'll have the burial and thenthe resurrection, which, along
with the cross, is the hingepoint of history.
It's the most profound eventsthat have happened in all of
mankind.
I trust you'll be with us.
It's a most rich passage.
Let's go ahead and get started.
Open your Bibles to Mark 15,starting in verse 42.
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Steve, can you read from theredown to verse 47?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
When evening had already come, because it was the
preparation day, that is, theday before the Sabbath, joseph
of Arimathea came a prominentmember of the council who
himself was waiting for thekingdom of God, and he gathered
up courage and went in beforePilate and asked for the body of
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Jesus.
Pilate wondered if he was deadby this time and, summoning the
centurion, he questioned him asto whether he was already dead
and, ascertaining this from thecenturion, he granted the body
to Joseph.
Joseph bought a linen cloth,took him down, wrapped him in
the linen cloth and laid him ina tomb which had been hewn out
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in the rock, and he rolled astone against the entrance of
the tomb.
Mary Magdalene and Mary, themother of Joseph, were looking
on to see where he was laid.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
We're introduced to this man, joseph of Arimathea.
It says here that he was laid.
We're introduced to this man,joseph of Arimathea.
It says here that he waswaiting for the kingdom.
Now, steve, what can we inferfrom that about this man, joseph
?
What was his spiritualcondition, do you think?
Speaker 2 (02:16):
I think that he was a secret follower of Jesus.
I say secret because he's alsoa member of the council.
That's the Sanhedrin.
In other texts it affirms that.
So he's at least a Pharisee ora Sadducee probably a Pharisee
because the Sadducees didn'tbelieve in resurrection and of
course Joseph doesn't know thisat the time, but I think he is a
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follower of Jesus.
We also have another followerfrom the council.
That's a follower of JesusNicodemus.
So we have at least two of them.
One of the other gospels saysthat Joseph here was not one of
the one who voted against Jesusfor his death penalty from the
Sanhedrin.
So I think that he is afollower of Jesus.
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He has the faith that he is theking.
He's anticipating the kingdom.
Well, what was going to comewith the Messiah and the king
was going to be a kingdom.
So I believe that this is anindication that he was a
faithful believer and followerof Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
He was indeed a disciple of Christ.
The Gospels tell us this.
It says here that he waswaiting for the kingdom, which
tells me that he was a believerin the scriptures, that he
believed the Bible enough.
He believed God's promisesenough to know, hey, there's a
kingdom coming and he's lookingfor this.
There were Jewish people thatwere going through religious
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rituals but didn't reallybelieve what God had said.
This man, joseph, he waswaiting for the kingdom.
That means he believed what Godhad told him.
Again, you alluded, steve, toseveral of the other Gospels,
that if we take all of what theGospels tell us, then we have a
more full picture of this man.
John 19.38 tells us that Josephwas a secret disciple, but it
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also says he was afraid of theJewish leaders.
That's why he was secret.
Luke 23.51 tells us Joseph didnot consent with the actions and
the voting of the otherSanhedrin to execute Jesus.
I take it that Joseph was likemany Christians today.
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I see myself especially earlyin my faith walk.
I was very much like this man,joseph, and I see other
Christians that are like thisman.
He had faith in Christ, but hewas afraid to come out in public
and speak up at work.
His job was on the Sanhedrinand if he were to express his
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faith in Christ at his job, it'sgoing to cost him.
He would have paid a price inhis reputation with the other
non-believers and it would havecost him in his career.
Steve, can we learn something?
In our day, many of us findourselves living around and
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having family members and peoplethat we interact with, either
at our jobs or just in our lives.
If we express faith in Christ,it's going to cost us something
to our reputation, maybe evenour finances.
People pay a price when they'rea follower of Jesus Christ.
How can we take an example fromthis?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
man, joseph.
They pay a price, especiallywhen they're an open follower of
Jesus Christ, and I don't justmean that somebody that's always
talking about Jesus at work,those type of things, just that
they profess their faith asthey're being a Christian.
And I've been guilty of thesame thing that you mentioned,
glenn, that I've not necessarilylet people know that I was a
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Christian in certain situationsand I look back on it and look
back on it a little bit shamefulof doing that.
And some of the reasons arejust what you pointed out.
You might have a fear that it'sgoing to affect your finances
because you're passed over forpromotions or other type of
things.
Being a follower of Jesus Christdoes sometimes come with a
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price, but it also comes with ablessing.
I think overall, the blessingsoutweigh any type of penalties
or prices that you might pay ina secular world.
The main blessing that you getis eternal life.
So showing that you're a friendof Jesus and being an open
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advocate for him and follower ofhim in the end run is going to
be better for you, I think, thanit is for you to be a closet
Christian, so to speak, and notwant anybody else to know that
you're a Christian, except forwhenever you go around your
Christian friends on Sunday orwhenever, wherever it is that
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you go to worship.
We still have that today.
I would encourage people don'tlet that overshadow you.
Let people know that you're aChristian and you'll get many,
many more blessings out of itthan you will any type of a
price that you're a Christianand you'll get many, many more
blessings out of it than youwill any type of a price that
you might pay.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
John 19.38 tells us that this man, joseph of
Arimathea, was afraid of theother people on the council, the
Sanhedrin.
Therefore, he kept his faithquiet.
But at this point, when Jesusdies on the cross, joseph steps
up.
He makes his faith known.
He doesn't keep his faithprivate here because the Lord
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needed him.
The Lord needed him to step upand do something.
Yes, he had been guilty ofkeeping his faith private, but
he didn't stay there.
He stepped up at this point intime and made it known, not only
to the Jewish people but allthe way up to Pilate.
He stepped up and made hisfaith known by this act of
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kindness of burying Jesus's body.
So what we can learn fromJoseph.
We may see ourselves in him asbeing somewhat timid sometimes,
but he didn't stay there.
When it came time and it wastime to do ministry, he stepped
up.
He made his faith known, nomatter what it cost him.
At this point, he was makinghis faith public.
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As you said, steve, we'llalways be better off when we
follow the Lord's commands.
We don't want to be the personthat is not doing our work at
work, but we also don't want tohide our faith.
Jesus told us that people wholove him should not hide their
light under a basket, but let itshine.
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In the end, joseph stepped upand let his light shine.
So should we.
It took courage to go to Pilate.
I mean, pilate was someone thatthe average Jewish person just
didn't rub elbows with.
This was the person that hadthe power on a whim, if you got
angry, to cause you at leastimprisonment, possibly even
death.
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So this took some courage forJoseph to stand up and be very
public with his faith and askfor the body of Christ.
Also, joseph spent his ownmoney.
He took his own resources here.
He used his own tomb, whichcost something.
He gave Jesus his personalgravesite.
I take that to be.
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This man truly was a believer.
He had been hiding his faithfor fear of men, but in the end
he let his faith win out.
That's the great example for ustoday.
Moving on in this passage verse44 and 45, pilate verifies with
the centurion that Jesus wasdead.
The centurion was anexecutioner.
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He was a professional killer.
It was his job to kill people.
He did it day in and day out.
He knew when someone was deadand when the executioner says
you're dead, then you're deadand you only bury somebody
that's dead.
Steve Jesus died for my sinsand he died for your sins and he
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died for the sins of ourlisteners.
It says in verse 46,.
They wrapped him in linen, andlinen was a finer cloth and was
somewhat expensive, but he wasburied.
Why?
Because he was dead.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
The reason why you're emphasizing that, glenn, is
because there is a sect outthere that says oh no, jesus
didn't die, he just swooned orhe fainted or he passed out and
he just appeared to be dead.
Everything you quoted there isto point that out and I think
it's recorded here.
For that reason, the centurionthat was in charge of knowing
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whether or not the people weredead came and put a testimony in
front of Pilate to say, no,he's dead.
Now, if he wasn't dead and thecenturion gave that testimony to
Pilate, then he was putting hislife on the line, because that
meant that he was disobeying acommandment that had been given
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to him from Pilate.
This person is to be crucified,crucified meant that he was
being put to death.
So there's no way that thecenturion was going to put his
life on the line to go lie toPilate and say, oh, no, he's
dead, but secretly that hereally isn't dead.
That is some conspiracy that hewas involved with.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
No, he was dead, and Scripture bears that out through
this testimony alone of thiscenturion At the end of chapter
15, verse 47, says MaryMagdalene and Mary, the mother
of Joseph, were looking on tosee where he was laid.
We pointed out, I believe inthe last session these women
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followed him for much of hisearthly ministry.
They had followed him dailyfrom Galilee to Jerusalem.
They followed him every day inJerusalem.
They followed him through hisdeath on the cross.
Now they're watching the bodyget put into the tomb.
They knew exactly where it was.
There's no way they could havemixed up who died on the cross.
There's no way they could havemixed up where the grave was.
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There's no way they could havemixed up whether he died.
We're going to see chapter 16,verse 1.
They're still there onresurrection morning.
They were sure that Jesus diedon the cross and all these crazy
theories about somebody elsedying in his place or mixing up
the tombs are just that crazytheories.
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Let's go ahead and move on.
Chapter 15, of course was thedeath.
We get to the gloriousresurrection.
In chapter 16, and starting atverse 1, it says this sun had
risen.
They were saying to one anotherwho will roll away the stone
for us?
From the entrance of the tomb.
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Looking up, they saw the stonehad been rolled away, although
it was extremely large.
Entering the tomb, they saw ayoung man sitting at the right
wearing a white robe, and theywere amazed.
And he said to them Do not beamazed, you are looking for
Jesus, the Nazarene who has beencrucified.
He has risen.
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He is not here.
Behold, here is the place wherethey laid him, but go tell his
disciples and Peter, he is goingahead of you to Galilee.
There you will see him.
Just as he told you, they wentout and fled from the tomb, for
trembling and astonishment hadgripped them and they said
nothing to anyone for they wereafraid.
With this, on the resurrectionmorning, verse 1, steve, who
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came and what were they wantingto do?
Speaker 2 (13:47):
It was Mary Magdalene and Mary, the mother of James
and Salome.
They were the ones that werealso watching at a distance at
the crucifixion site and theywere coming to the grave with
spices for the burials.
It depicts, glenn, that becausethey had these spices for
burial, their expectation wasn'tgoing to be that there was
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going to be a resurrection.
That wasn't what was on theirmind at this time.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
In the narrative that Mark is pointing out, yes,
exactly there was the same womenthat saw where he was laid.
So they came now this is dawn,or just at or after dawn they
brought spices which were toanoint the body.
As the body decayed, they wouldput spices on it to cut down
the stench and to honor him, toanoint the body.
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They could have very well,obviously, bought them after
dark the night before the Jewishday started.
At sundown On the Sabbath daythey could have gone out and
bought spices after sundown,when it was no longer the
Sabbath.
Now, the next morning at dawnthey've brought these spices and
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again they were wondering who'sgoing to move this large stone,
but they found out it hadalready been moved.
Now I think we should take onesmall rabbit trail here and talk
about the different accounts inthe Gospels of resurrection
morning.
The four Gospels emphasizedifferent things and give
different eyewitness accounts ofexactly what was emphasized.
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I think if we just compare them, there's of course the skeptics
and critics kind of have afield day because they don't
read exactly the same word forword on all of them.
But one of the questions, forexample, is which women were
there?
None of the Gospels give us acomplete list of who all the
women were.
Mark records three names butdoes not say it was only these
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three.
One of the Gospels says andothers.
There was a group of peoplethat came.
There would have been initialconfusion.
I mean, obviously they didn'thave our benefit of looking back
on it over thousands of yearsand thinking about it all of our
lives.
This was new to them and theywere reacting.
So you can imagine theconfusion and a lot of running
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back and forth.
As verse 8 says, they kind ofran at different times.
So you can imagine the kind ofconfusion.
There was a group of themrunning back and forth.
Mark says it was very early andthe sun had risen.
Luke 24.1 says early dawn.
John 20.1 says while it wasstill dark.
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And, believe it or not, there'speople that get into arguments
about saying well, it was darkbut the sun had come up, and
thinking this is some sort of acontradiction.
Well, I submit they need to getup early tomorrow morning and
watch the sun come up, becausethe sun doesn't come up like a
light switch.
It's not just instantaneous andsuddenly it goes from dark to
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light, especially in a hillycountry.
If you've ever been in a hillyenvironment and gotten up before
dawn you'll see the sky slowlygets lighter, the top of the
hill gets the sun on it and it'sstill dark down in the valleys.
Some of the valleys in a hillycountry don't get light until
almost midday.
It's entirely possible that allthese are very congruent,
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simply because dawn is notinstantaneous.
The sun takes a while fromfirst visible light until being
considered fully day, and italso could be that it's first
light and still dark.
It doesn't get again justbright sunlight instantaneously.
First visible light is stillquite dark.
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Thank you very much.
It also could have been darkwhen they left and light when
they got there.
It could have had an earlymorning fog or a haze, could
have been cloudy that day.
It's just silly to get intothese arguments about how dark
is dark and how light is lightwhen all the Gospels are really
describing an event that tookplace over a period of at least
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a couple of hours and it wentfrom very dark to slowly getting
lighter.
We also read the four Gospels.
We compare the accounts onResurrection Morning.
They don't have the samedetails simply because Mary
Magdalene ran to tell Peter andJohn we're told that in John 20,
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verse 2, and then stayed nearthe tomb.
The events of resurrectionmorning happened over time in
the morning, with a lot ofrunning back and forth.
It's not surprising that thedisciples and the women could
have been confused, afraid.
They had several hours for allthis to unfold and it's just a
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little silly for us to read itin one minute and say that, well
, every detail doesn't matchexactly to the other, simply
because it was eyewitnessaccounts that happened over time
.
For example, again here it hasMary running to get Peter, but
then she's in the garden whenshe thinks he's the gardener.
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Well, again, over a period ofan hour and a half when they're
running back and forth, couldhave easily been in both places.
Steve, I don't know if you haveany thoughts on all this.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
The thought I have is that if all four Gospels would
have had the very exact sameaccount, then what would the
skeptics and scoffers do withthat?
They would say, oh, there's noway that would be true
eyewitness accounts and have thevery exact same story.
This is a depiction that theyall got together and got their
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stories straight and made upthis story, and that's why
they're the same all the waydown, in every detail.
Either way that you go, thescoffers are going to scoff, the
skeptics are going to laugh atit.
That's what they do.
There's no real pleasing themat all.
But to me, the fact that you dohave the variation between the
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Gospels shows to me that it iseyewitness accounts.
A person that has an eyewitnessaccount.
They're going to recordsomething that stands out to
them.
The same thing that stands outto them is not necessarily going
to be the same thing thatstands out to somebody else
that's writing something down.
To me, this shows the veracityor the truth behind what they're
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saying as eyewitness accounts.
And then, secondary to that,through all four of these
accounts, we can put together avery clear picture of what was
going on in the late evening orthe new day of Sunday the first
of the morning on into themorning period of Sunday, that
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first day of the week.
That's my comment on it is thateither way you go, you're still
going to have scoffers that aregoing to scoff.
I'm going with what scripturesays here because I do think it
makes sense when you put allfour Gospels together.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
The women come to the tomb on the morning and they
look up.
It says in verse 4, looking up,they saw the stone had been
rolled away, although it wasextremely large.
Steve, here's a question CanGod move extremely large things
and can he move extremely largethings in my life and your life?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
This is a very minor event, glenn, in all the things
that God has done throughout allof Scripture, and we think of
all the miracles bringing themout of Egypt and the parting of
the Red Sea, taking them intothe Promised Land, the parting
of the Jordan River and all thedifferent things that we've seen
God do.
And Jesus himself and themiracles that he did walking on
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water, feeding 5,000, healingthe sick, casting out demons,
moving a stone in front of agrave is a very minor event in
the various miracles andprovisions that God has made for
his people.
So in our lives, yes, god cando minor things.
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He can also do great things.
This is just one minor thing inthe vast amount of miracles
that we see throughout Scripture.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
The women were wondering how are we going to
move this big, heavy stone?
They get there and they seeGod's already moved it.
I think we can take a lesson onthat.
Do we have big heavy things inour life that we're wondering
how in the world am I going tomove it?
God has the power to move it,even though it's extremely large
, and I think if we just trustHim, he doesn't move everything
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when we want Him to, but healways does it right on time.
So if we just have faith in Him, he can move big heavy things,
things that are too heavy for meand too heavy for you.
We also see here.
What do they find?
The tomb is empty.
There were critics ofChristianity in those days, just
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like there's critics ofChristianity in our day.
In that day, it would have beenvery easy for the people that
didn't like the Christianmessage to destroy it simply by
pointing to the body.
If they wanted to destroyChristianity in the book of Acts
, they would have.
They knew where he was buried.
Just go over there and say he'sright there.
I can show you his skeleton.
Where's the body?
The fact that the tomb was emptyis proof of the resurrection,
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the reason why you never see inthe book of Acts and still today
never see anybody using that asa way to destroy Christianity
is because the tomb was empty.
It is an evidence ofChristianity.
The people here were giving aneyewitness account.
The tomb was empty.
The stone was moved.
They saw an angel.
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They quoted the angel, verse12,.
He appeared to two of thedisciples on the road.
He appeared to the eleven.
They quoted Jesus directlyafter the resurrection.
All these are eyewitnessaccounts and the greatest of all
of these eyewitness accounts isthat the tomb is empty.
Therefore, jesus rose from thedead.
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Therefore, everything he saidwas true.
And, steve, this is a greateyewitness testimony of the
greatest event in human history,which is the resurrection that
gives us the hope of eternallife, that all of our faith
rests upon a resurrected JesusChrist.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
The fact that the eyewitnesses recorded in all the
Gospels, the first to knowabout it are women they go back
and tell the apostles, istelling again as to the
truthfulness of the Gospels thatare writing the accounts.
Why?
Because at that time women'stestimony had no validity
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amongst the Jewish people, theJewish men.
For any type of an officialwitnessing or anything, they had
to have men.
And at that time you certainlywouldn't have put that it was
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women.
Were the first witnesses tofind the tomb empty, you would
have put in there that it wasmen that found it empty, because
that in the culture of the day,would have been more believable
.
So here we have it.
We have truth being toldbecause it was women that found
the empty tomb first and thenwent and told the men.
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To me it's these little thingsthat if you go verse by verse
through Scripture that you haveto confront and you encounter
and it just tells over and overagain.
These are eyewitness accountsof what happened.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
I met a man who had grown up in a Muslim country and
somebody handed him a Bible andasked him to read the gospel
accounts and he said every timeI turned around it was talking
about the resurrection.
He started thinking through allthe various possible
explanations for the empty tomband all the eyewitness accounts,
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all of the possible things thatmight defeat it.
He came to the conclusion thatit was more reasonable to
believe that somebody rose fromthe dead than to believe all the
crazy accounts of trying toexplain away who moved the stone
and the empty tomb and all thechanged lives and all these
things.
The resurrection convinced thedisciples and it changed their
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lives.
In verse 8, in the last versethat we read here, what were the
women doing and why?
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Well, they went and fled from the tomb and they were
trembling.
They were astonished that itwas empty.
It says there very vividly.
It gripped them.
They came to a realization thatJesus was alive, that he wasn't
dead.
It says there they said nothingto anyone for they were afraid.
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This is Mark's account In theother Gospels.
It's very clear that they wentback and told the other apostles
.
They went back and told themthat the grave was empty and we
had the record there of John andPeter running to the grave
itself to see what was going on.
I think that Mark saying theysaid nothing to anyone was that
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they didn't tell anyone elseoutside of the apostles what was
going on or what had happened,because they were afraid.
You pointed out earlier, glenn,that this is all happening.
All of a sudden, they're goingto the tomb with spices with the
expectation to anoint a deadbody.
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What do they find?
There is no dead body.
Jesus is resurrected and theangels are there to explain to
them that he's not there, thathe has been resurrected.
This is a shock to them, andnot only a shock of what
happened, but a happiness.
A shock of happiness that theirperson that they've been
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following, is now alive and hasbeen resurrected.
You have a flood of emotionsthat are going on that I think
Mark is depicting here when itsays that they became trembling
over them and the fear of notletting anyone else know what's
going on.
This is all new, something thatis happening, and we see the
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flow of it taking place throughthe various accounts of the
different Gospels.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
As we mentioned earlier, there was a group of
women Only a few of them arenamed here, at least.
Mary Magdalene went and toldthe disciples, because one of
the other Gospels records that.
But they scattered the groupscatters.
It says here.
They were terrified andconfused and I think that would
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be normal if you had been inthis for the first time, steve.
I think of this in terms of theChristian life today.
We get into situations wherewe're afraid and we're confused
and we're just doing what theLord wants us to do and going
through life and suddenly wefind circumstances that we don't
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understand.
Why is the Lord doing this?
Why am I here?
We have situations where wedon't know what to do.
We're scattered, we'reterrified, we're confused.
I think that if we just realizeGod has a purpose and I might
not understand now, but if Ijust stay the course, stay
faithful to him, then we willsee that he has a purpose for
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all this and he will carry usthrough.
Can we trust God, even insituations where we might be
terrified and confused?
Speaker 2 (29:51):
It's.
The one thing that brings usthrough those situations is that
, as we're scared and terrifiedthrough them, as we see God work
in different ways and bringabout some calmness and peace in
us, it strengthens our faith.
It's kind of a strange thing tosay that in a situation where
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you're terrified of what's goingto happen, but yet you have
this calmness that is given toyou by God through the Holy
Spirit and through therelationship that you have.
It's something that you reallycan't describe to other people,
but it's there and it issomething that I think it
ultimately builds our faith.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
So we end this session on a high note Jesus is
raised.
The people around him don't yetunderstand it, but nevertheless
Jesus has conquered death.
The tomb is empty, the stone isrolled away and Jesus has
demonstrated he is who heclaimed to be and we can take
hope that there is eternal lifein the Christian life.
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So the resurrection is thevictory over death.
He has defeated death.
He paid for our sins on thecross and we can have joy in him
because Jesus is raised.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
The crucifixes that we see with Jesus hanging on the
cross.
They're incorrect, becauseJesus is raised from the dead.
That's how we're finishing outthis session.
He's not on the cross, he'salive today, sitting at the
right hand of the Father.
That's how we should rememberJesus, not hanging on a cross.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
We'll be back next time to close out the book of
Mark Next time.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Thank you so much for watching and listening.
May God bless you.
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